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LilZebra
Mar 23, 2007, 5:10 PM
I was more disguested by how poorly the "better classes" on that film were dressed...

So to you it's OK to shit in a potted planted in public? :yuck:

Archiseek
Mar 23, 2007, 5:56 PM
what is worrying about the "crap" video is that he clearly does not wash his hands afterwards

harls
Mar 23, 2007, 5:56 PM
that little video sure is making the rounds. I've got it at least 3 times now via email.

that guy's going to be a star, I know it.

what is worrying about the "crap" video is that he clearly does not wash his hands afterwards


His confused look stems from the bewildering lack of paper and hand soap. These city folks are filthy!

Lee_Haber8
Mar 23, 2007, 6:49 PM
^This video leaves me confused. Why didn't anybody notice or try to do anything?

Marc B.
Mar 23, 2007, 11:00 PM
/\ I walked by the scene of the crime this afternoon. The plant pot has been moved into the CanWest Global building proper between the ATMs. A few of the girls in my office went by earlier this afternoon and said they ran into at least three or four other people checking out the site. The video is getting around.

I also took a mental-health walk by the Excelsior, Strand, and Ship Street condos through Juba park today. Waterfront Drive is looking really great. There's a new pub at the end of Market, looks like a good post WUI meeting location.

rgalston
Mar 24, 2007, 12:23 AM
So to you it's OK to shit in a potted planted in public? :yuck:

Of course not. But I'm also not surprised that things like that happen in "public" places like councourses in the downtowns of cities.

LilZebra
Mar 24, 2007, 7:04 AM
Of course not. But I'm also not surprised that things like that happen in "public" places like councourses in the downtowns of cities.

A backlane is also a public place. It would have been a tad more acceptable and less public to do his bit there, out of the view of the camera.

LilZebra
Mar 24, 2007, 7:07 AM
^This video leaves me confused. Why didn't anybody notice or try to do anything?

Because this is Winnipeg. The same city that doesn't have a rapid transit system. :koko:

newflyer
Mar 24, 2007, 4:21 PM
Because this is Winnipeg. The same city that doesn't have a rapid transit system. :koko:

Of course.. because nobody craps on potted plants in cities with rapid transit. :koko:

Damn it ... we should have built the Murray diamond lane project. All the plants would be safe.

LilZebra
Mar 24, 2007, 5:55 PM
:previous:

newflyer, you provided me the the smile of the day. :worship:

newflyer
Mar 24, 2007, 6:26 PM
:previous:

newflyer, you provided me the the smile of the day. :worship:

Thanks . :cheers:

spiritedenergy
Mar 26, 2007, 1:51 AM
ok this is random, still... How to look differently at the same thing (i.e. how reliable are newspapers):


FREE PRESS
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/story/3921067p-4532472c.html
Breaking News
Free Press maintains readership lead
Updated at 10:55 AM
The Winnipeg Free Press continues to have the highest percentage of readership of any newspaper in the country, according to the latest industry research.
The Free Press is read every week by 71 per cent of adults in the metropolitan Winnipeg area, according to 2006 Newspaper Audience Databank (NADbank) survey results released this morning.
The Edmonton Journal and Calgary Herald are next at 59 per cent each in their respective cities, followed by the Ottawa Citizen at 51 per cent. The Winnipeg Sun’s weekly readership is 42 per cent.
NADbank is an independent organization supported by daily newspapers, advertising agencies and large advertisers. Its annual survey is conducted by telephone using scientifically selected audience samples to determine data on total readership as opposed to sales of copies.

SUN
http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/03/24/3820722-sun.html
Sun readership soars as Free Press sales drop
By SUN MEDIA
Winnipeg Sun readership is growing by leaps and bounds, according to the latest survey by Newspaper Audience Databank Inc.
In the 18-plus category, Sun weekday readership rose by 9,200 or 8.5% last year while Winnipeg Free Press readership declined by 3,300 or 1.4%.
The Sun has also seen a significant jump in Saturday readership with an increase of 9,200 or 9.9% compared with 2005, while Free Press readership decreased by 2,400 or 0.8%.
"We're up all over. We're up in just about every category, right across the board," said Sun publisher and CEO Ed Huculak. "It's one of the best books the Winnipeg Sun has had."
A tremendous effort by Sun staff in all departments is the main reason for the positive shift, said Huculak.
INCREASING AWARENESS
"They're the reason for the numbers being what they are," he said. "I think we're doing a lot of things right. We're increasing our awareness in this city."
Huculak said buying the naming rights to the former Blue and Gold Room -- a reception facility managed by the Winnipeg Blue Bombers -- has paid off.
"The Winnipeg Sun Centre was a great acquisition," he said. "That created an awareness factor that we never quite had before."
Improved content has also helped the Sun attract more readers, said Huculak.
"That's been the focus and giving the reader fresher and different content has started to pay dividends," he said. "We're giving Winnipeggers what they want and they've shown it by their support in reading our product."
Meanwhile, the number of female weekday Winnipeg Sun readers is up a whopping 32.4%. Huculak attributes the increase to the addition of lifestyle pages, including Health, Eat, Trends, and Sex Files.
NADbank is an independent company that measures newspaper readership across Canada each year.

Winnipeg sun is increasing awareness with Sunshine girls and Sex Files (what is sex files???? porn for women?)... geez:haha:

LilZebra
Mar 26, 2007, 6:00 AM
:previous:

Yeah, and according to the Globe article on Saturday:

The drop in readership of the freebies, however, comes against similar declines at bigger paid dailies, as audiences increasingly move online. Weekday readership of the Toronto Star, the country's largest paper by readership and circulation, fell 0.3 per cent to 982,000.

SOURCE: "Growth of free dailies dropping
While more readers of major dailies get their news online". Globe & Mail, Saturday March 24, 2007
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070324.RNADBANK24/TPStory/?query=circulation (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070324.RNADBANK24/TPStory/?query=circulation)

No one wants to be last, but not everyone can be first either. One of these papers is lying.

LilZebra
Apr 7, 2007, 6:50 AM
These two guys from Quebec are funny. They listed their 6 YouTube videos under "comedy", but I think they're being serious:

Winnipeg 4 - Outside Portage Place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95amYvbN-LM)

and

Winnipeg 5 - Inside Portage Place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5_fjC_YkGA)

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 7:31 AM
I was more disguested by how poorly the "better classes" on that film were dressed...

I agree I wish Winnipegers would dress with a little pride.

Greco Roman
Apr 7, 2007, 3:52 PM
Can we please find some videos that laugh at other cities besides Winnipeg? :hell:

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 3:57 PM
Can we please find some videos that laugh at other cities besides Winnipeg? :hell:

That would be too easy.... I live in a city which is about to host the Rodeo Royal (sic) .... where there are ads around town notifing me its where cowboys aren't thrown .. but de-throned. :rolleyes:

If the term "HICKVILLE" comes to mind you'd be correct. Then again most people don't even notice it while driving there big pickup trucks, while wearing there favorite cowboy hat. :yuck: .. while listening to there favorite country songs.

Its hard to figure how it earned the name cowtown.

http://event.calgarystampede.com/rodeo_royal/

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7526/cowtown1rz6.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8360/kl9x4542hf6.jpg

I like how the cowboy and the horse have the same expression. Yippee!!

Its just like Chicago... :haha:

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 4:05 PM
... OR how about the beautiful snow filled Easter Weekend .


http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7463/cgyroofcamhk1.jpg

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 4:31 PM
These two guys from Quebec are funny. They listed their 6 YouTube videos under "comedy", but I think they're being serious:

Winnipeg 4 - Outside Portage Place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95amYvbN-LM)

and

Winnipeg 5 - Inside Portage Place (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5_fjC_YkGA)

Hmmmm ... maybe not a video we want to use to attract tourists.

Very funny though. When there were questioning the cranes ... who are they for?? .. I was mumbling .. not to worry its only government!! Luckily they didn't find that tidbit out.

I am imbarrassed that they found that Starbucks too... hey have a $5 coffee and be surrounded by bums. Portage Place has to get cleaned up!!! Maybe if they piped in some classical music the bums would stay out. Just like I avoid places that play country music.

vid
Apr 14, 2007, 11:46 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vidioman/Sandbox2#Winnipeg

I made a weather chart for Winnipeg, which uses full colours and incorporates more data, such as record highs and lows, precipitation and sunshine. You can compare it to other cities, so far I have Thunder Bay, Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. They're collapsed, so you have to click show to see them.

Andy6
Apr 15, 2007, 1:47 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vidioman/Sandbox2#Winnipeg

I made a weather chart for Winnipeg, which uses full colours and incorporates more data, such as record highs and lows, precipitation and sunshine. You can compare it to other cities, so far I have Thunder Bay, Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. They're collapsed, so you have to click show to see them.

Nice chart. I remember that 34C day in April. I think it was April 14, 1980. Or maybe 1981.

Andy6
Apr 15, 2007, 1:51 AM
Interesting that the record highs for Winnipeg are higher than Toronto's for every month from April to October, except July. November's are the same.

vid
Apr 15, 2007, 2:49 AM
And Thunder Bay is the only city to have reached 0° or lower every month of the year. :) I would have thought Winnipeg would have done so too but you haven't. :)

dennis
Apr 15, 2007, 3:03 AM
^Summers here tend to be one of the warmer ones in Canada. BC interior, Southern Ontario seem to be warmer. Perhaps Lake Superior moderates your temperatures during the year.

vid
Apr 15, 2007, 3:14 AM
Well compare them...

Month Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
high -8.6(17) -5.6(22) 0.3(33) 9.0(48) 16.4(62) 20.6(69) 24.2(76) 23.1(74) 17.1(63) 10.4(51) 1.7(35) -6.1(21)
high -12.7(9) -8.5(17) -1.1(30) 10.3(51) 19.2(67) 23.3(74) 25.8(78) 25(77) 18.6(65) 10.8(51) -0.9(30) -9.7(15)

TBay on top, Winnipeg on bottom

You guys are more extreme but they average out to be the same, about 8.5 over the year. So there isn't too much difference, the lake just keeps it close to the middle.

IntotheWest
Apr 17, 2007, 3:03 AM
^Summers here tend to be one of the warmer ones in Canada. BC interior, Southern Ontario seem to be warmer. Perhaps Lake Superior moderates your temperatures during the year.

Excluding humidity, it would be southern BC interior (Osoyoos) that would be the warmest...29c in July. Next, would be south-eastern AB/South western Sask...around 27-28c. Southern Ontario and MB are just a tick off from that.


VID: I'm assuming you were just talking about the cities you've collected data for, but Calgary has also managed to hit below zero in every month of the year - which really wouldn't be a shock to most ;-)

IntotheWest
Apr 17, 2007, 3:25 AM
That would be too easy.... I live in a city which is about to host the Rodeo Royal (sic) .... where there are ads around town notifing me its where cowboys aren't thrown .. but de-throned. :rolleyes:

I like how the cowboy and the horse have the same expression. Yippee!!




The two Montreal dudes in the video are complete idiots - they obviously had their minds made up about Winnipeg before getting there...and then hanging out at portage place shows their own stupidity.

However, I'm not sure about your comments about Rodeo Royal - especially when considering what's at stake for the contestants who enter it under the new Stampede format (winners go on to compete at the invite-only Stampede)...you come off not knowing what you're talking about. There is no doubt the Stampede is the largest (by visitors, and by money outside of the NFR) rodeo in the world, and is incredibly respected - seemingly outside of some Calgary forumers...for whatever reason.

LilZebra
May 1, 2007, 8:22 PM
I found this article about the definition and attributes of the "underclass" of society, from an American viewpoint:

http://www.brookings.edu/es/research/projects/wrb/publications/pb/pb36.htm

The underclass can be defined as:


people with substance abuse (drugs, alcohol) problems and
the rapid rise in out-of-wedlock childbearing -- teenage single-moms and
and the high levels of violent crime in the inner cities


The solutions include:


reducing the concentration of poverty in social housing by dispersing them through mixed-income housing. Public housing is not good for the well-being of the tenants or the neighbourhood as a whole
having better educational standards and motivating people to finish high school

spiritedenergy
May 2, 2007, 4:31 AM
The two Montreal dudes in the video are complete idiots - they obviously had their minds made up about Winnipeg before getting there...and then hanging out at portage place shows their own stupidity.

However, I'm not sure about your comments about Rodeo Royal - especially when considering what's at stake for the contestants who enter it under the new Stampede format (winners go on to compete at the invite-only Stampede)...you come off not knowing what you're talking about. There is no doubt the Stampede is the largest (by visitors, and by money outside of the NFR) rodeo in the world, and is incredibly respected - seemingly outside of some Calgary forumers...for whatever reason.

that's so true, what idiots... By the way, i remember walking in St. Catherine in Montreal, there were all those black ghetto guys bothering the people walking by purpose, and laughing stupidly... strange place.:sly:

LilZebra
May 2, 2007, 4:58 PM
New shelter opens its doors
MAY 02 2007 08:30 AM

A long line of Winnipeg's homeless waited outside Siloam Mission's new emergency shelter last night for its doors to open.

The 900-thousand dollar "Hannah's Place" has 60 beds and hot showers for its patrons.

John Mohan of Siloam Mission tells CJOB it was half full last night, but he expects it to fill up quickly after word gets around about the new facility.

Mohan says most of the patrons at the new shelter requested early wake-up calls this morning so they could go to jobs or get in line for temporary employment.

The shelter took six months to build.

CJOB's Kacey Wilson Wilson

Homeless housing shouldn't really be in the centre of the city, but put in the middle of nowhere.

vid
May 2, 2007, 10:21 PM
Yes, if we isolate the homeless people from everything not only can they be destitute, but they can be destitute AND isolated!

newflyer
May 2, 2007, 11:02 PM
However, I'm not sure about your comments about Rodeo Royal - especially when considering what's at stake for the contestants who enter it under the new Stampede format (winners go on to compete at the invite-only Stampede)...you come off not knowing what you're talking about. There is no doubt the Stampede is the largest (by visitors, and by money outside of the NFR) rodeo in the world, and is incredibly respected - seemingly outside of some Calgary forumers...for whatever reason.

Are you serious???.. :rolleyes:

Albertaboy asked for video or pictures which made fun of another city .. I personally can't think of a funnier example of what makes Winnipeg different than Calgary in a very positive way for Winnipeg. The funniest thing is this is not just some funny stereotype .. this is reality .. including the spelling error on all the ads. .. Rodeo Royal. ???

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5561/cowtown1wv2.jpg


If you like Rodeos .. thats great.. me I avoid them at all cost, even if the winner gets to goto an even bigger hick festival.

This picture just kills me... :haha:

newflyer
May 2, 2007, 11:16 PM
Yes, if we isolate the homeless people from everything not only can they be destitute, but they can be destitute AND isolated!

Yeah .. and moving the homeless to a middleclass neighbourhood does wonders for the crime rates. :rolleyes:

newflyer
May 2, 2007, 11:23 PM
Of course we could have a chuckle at Calgary's (aka Coldgary) weather... a couple weeks ago... mid April.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/723/cgyroofcam2cz0.jpg

Except for the fact I was living it .. while Winnipegers were injoying plus 20 degrees. :sly:

vid
May 2, 2007, 11:42 PM
Yeah .. and moving the homeless to a middleclass neighbourhood does wonders for the crime rates. :rolleyes:

Yeah, it makes you think "Gee, we should have a programme to help them stop being homeless shouldn't we??" :haha:

newflyer
May 3, 2007, 10:30 PM
Yeah, it makes you think "Gee, we should have a programme to help them stop being homeless shouldn't we??" :haha:

"Gee we have programs all over the place."

Its called getting a job... or going to school :rolleyes: I don't think it should require a new massive government program. Winnipeg, Manitoba and the Feds all have programs in place to help people find work or take training, but like the saying goes "if you don't help yourself nobody will do it for you."

Maybe we should just focus on minimizing the impact on the working class.

newflyer
May 3, 2007, 10:39 PM
May 3rd, 2007 .. a day in the life of Calgary ..brrrrrrr

Snowed all afternoon today .. its really coming down... mixed with heavy rain.. I am hoping it cools enough so I can make a snowman. :yuck:

bomberguy
May 3, 2007, 10:43 PM
=)

The weather today was awesome!!

newflyer
May 3, 2007, 10:47 PM
=)

The weather today was awesome!!

Yeah .. thanks :(

We haven't had one nice day yet .. unless you believe some locals that 12 above is great patio weather. :sly:

IntotheWest
May 4, 2007, 2:49 AM
Are you serious???.. :rolleyes:

Albertaboy asked for video or pictures which made fun of another city .. I personally can't think of a funnier example of what makes Winnipeg different than Calgary in a very positive way for Winnipeg. The funniest thing is this is not just some funny stereotype .. this is reality

Dead serious. I don't see what's so funny with it - or how it pokes fun at Calgary? It's like showing a picture of a Flames game to someone in the southern US - trying to poke fun at Canadians for playing hockey?? No, don't get it.

The Stampede is one of the richest, and most well-known, well respected rodeos in the world. The Rodeo "Royal" is a great event that leads up to the Stampede. If you don't like it, that's up to you - but don't try to poke fun at something you obviously have no idea about. That just makes you look as foolish as the two Montrealers in the video.

newflyer
May 4, 2007, 3:13 AM
Dead serious. I don't see what's so funny with it - or how it pokes fun at Calgary? It's like showing a picture of a Flames game to someone in the southern US - trying to poke fun at Canadians for playing hockey?? No, don't get it.

The Stampede is one of the richest, and most well-known, well respected rodeos in the world. The Rodeo "Royal" is a great event that leads up to the Stampede. If you don't like it, that's up to you - but don't try to poke fun at something you obviously have no idea about. That just makes you look as foolish as the two Montrealers in the video.

Sorry man .. your right it not funny to laugh at it.

Do you have any more pics to post of people with similar expressions on top of animals? :D

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/3041/head1nm9.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6420/head2jv1.jpg
(sorry for the big white rectangles around these pics)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2082/cowpokevk5.jpg

Just not what I expect for a city ...

Have you ever checked out the Manitoba Stampede?? .. I think its in Morris.

Only The Lonely..
May 4, 2007, 3:46 AM
I think it's funny.

IntotheWest
May 4, 2007, 4:28 AM
^To each their own...but it's definitely not something that most would consider to be "funny" about Calgary.

The MB stampede is not bad - along with any of the other smaller rodeos, its actually better to see for a first-timer. I've "dragged" a few friends from Winnipeg to the Strathmore Heritage Days, and now they return willingly. It helps to understand the sport, the contestants, and the "culture".

Having said that, Calgary Stampede is truly in a league of its own. There are only 2-3 other rodeos outside of the NFR that would rate as popular/size. The MB rodeo will rarely attract any of the bigger names from the PCRA...and no other PCRA or CPRA rodeo will attract PBR contestants like the Stampede has. And if it wasn't for the rodeo, the Stampede would be nothing - and I mean the "whole" 10 days in Calgary.

The attitude of the Montrealers in that video toward Winnipeg is one of my biggest pet peaves - not keeping an open-mind. They missed a lot of Winnipeg it seems, by coming up short in their assessment of the city.

Only The Lonely..
May 4, 2007, 4:33 AM
The attitude of the Montrealers in that video toward Winnipeg is one of my biggest pet peaves - not keeping an open-mind. They missed a lot of Winnipeg it seems, by coming up short in their assessment of the city.

Mneh, their from Montreal they can't help it that their naturually snotty. That's why nobody likes them.

newflyer
May 4, 2007, 10:48 PM
The attitude of the Montrealers in that video toward Winnipeg is one of my biggest pet peaves - not keeping an open-mind. They missed a lot of Winnipeg it seems, by coming up short in their assessment of the city.


What do you expect .. they walked through the bum mall aka Portage Place. If you don't get a bad impression after that experience than you are blind and hard of smelling. Many of those bums stink as bad as they look. :yuck:

newflyer
May 4, 2007, 10:51 PM
I think it's funny.

It is very funny.. :D

... and in a couple short months the annual cowboy festival will be back in full swing.

.. and where will I be you ask??

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9751/grandbeachlgvq0.jpg


Hope all those cowpokes have a great time at there EJQRZ acredited event..

Only The Lonely..
May 4, 2007, 11:57 PM
What do you expect .. they walked through the bum mall aka Portage Place. If you don't get a bad impression after that experience than you are blind and hard of smelling. Many of those bums stink as bad as they look. :yuck:

I dunno, seeing Portage Place in all its glory is a certainly a unique Winnipeg experience.

I've never seen anything quite like it in Canada or the U.S.

It's a mall built exclusively for petty thugs, pushers, and the downtrodden. I'm not sure you can get much more Winnipeg than that.

IntotheWest
May 5, 2007, 12:03 AM
^Yeah...figures. You just show your level of knowledge. Your loss.

Hopefully the e.coli levels are not too high this year at the beach.

Mayor Quimby
May 5, 2007, 12:43 AM
What's wrong with Winnipeg ?

The only thing that comes to mind are , no more Jets.:(

newflyer
May 5, 2007, 12:52 AM
What's wrong with Winnipeg ?

The only thing that comes to mind are , no more Jets.:(

Yes .. but all the ills of the city have be elimintaed once the team left, just as all the anti-Jets proponants insisted would happen.. like Glen Murray and Jenni G. :sly:

newflyer
May 5, 2007, 12:54 AM
^Yeah...figures. You just show your level of knowledge. Your loss.



Okay .. I'll try to keep that in mind while I'm soaking up the sun and enjoying the views. :coolugh:

jalapano
May 5, 2007, 3:34 PM
[QUOTE=IntotheWest;2772721]Excluding humidity, it would be southern BC interior (Osoyoos) that would be the warmest...29c in July. Next, would be south-eastern AB/South western Sask...around 27-28c. Southern Ontario and MB are just a tick off from that.
QUOTE]

ahh no, southern interior BC yes would probably be the warmest average temperature for canada,
but south - eastern Alberta is definatly not warmer then southern Ontario or even southern Manitoba in the summer......

Winnipegs AVERAGE summer temperature: 26 C

Calgarys AVERAGE summer temperature: 21 C

Winnipegs record temp: 42C
Calgarys receord temp: 35 C

Calgary is lucky if it gets ubove 30C for more then 4 days a year...
not to mention calgary can get 0C anytime of the year :koko:

Also winnipeg easily stays in the high 27- 32 C in the summmer
26 is only the average summer temp

IntotheWest
May 5, 2007, 4:49 PM
^dude, good first post. I didn't say "Calgary" I said southern-eastern AB, and south-western Sask. Try Medicine Hat and south. There's one station that started recording reliable data in 2000 called Onefour. Just north of the Montana border, so no averages yet, but the land between it and the Hat can get quite toasty - by far the warmest and driest on the prairies.

Here's the snapshot of last July in Onefour (there's not much there, other than some rattlers, and dust):

01 30.3
02 31.2
03 29.5
04 31.7
05 35.5
06 32.1
07 28.3
08 29.8
09 36.0
10 32.0
11 31.4
12 33.9
13 29.3
14 33.3
15 35.3
16 28.1
17 35.2
18 27.9
19 28.6
20 28.8
21 34.0
22 37.0
23 34.8
24 33.7
25 34.5
26 33.0
27 33.2
28 35.7
29 35.9
30 30.0
31 25.4

Also winnipeg easily stays in the high 27- 32 C in the summmer
26 is only the average summer temp

Ummm...if it easily stayed between 27-32c, wouldn't that mean it averaged higher than 26c? Truth is, it gets "on average" 13 days a year above 30c (yep, besting Calgary's 4 days a year...but about the same as the Hat and Lethbridge).

Oh - and if you go back even further in this thread, you'll see how I mentioned that Winnipeg approached 0c a few Augusts ago...it's not immune to it.

jalapano
May 5, 2007, 8:14 PM
:previous:
my bad :D

Greco Roman
May 5, 2007, 9:18 PM
^Yeah...figures. You just show your level of knowledge. Your loss.

Hopefully the e.coli levels are not too high this year at the beach.

Hey man. Perhaps Lake Winnipeg isn't as clean as it used to be, however now that I am "living" in Calgary for the summer, I can tell you that there is really nothing in terms of beaches around this place to fill my summer void. At least in Edmonton they are somewhat closer to swimmable lakes, but Calgary has NADA to offer in that department that isn't manmade. :hell:

newflyer
May 6, 2007, 2:27 AM
^dude, good first post. I didn't say "Calgary" I said southern-eastern AB, and south-western Sask. Try Medicine Hat and south. There's one station that started recording reliable data in 2000 called Onefour. Just north of the Montana border, so no averages yet, but the land between it and the Hat can get quite toasty - by far the warmest and driest on the prairies.

Ummm...if it easily stayed between 27-32c, wouldn't that mean it averaged higher than 26c? Truth is, it gets "on average" 13 days a year above 30c (yep, besting Calgary's 4 days a year...but about the same as the Hat and Lethbridge).

Oh - and if you go back even further in this thread, you'll see how I mentioned that Winnipeg approached 0c a few Augusts ago...it's not immune to it.

Average could mean a total of all temps .. high and low spread out over a particular period. Winnipeg lows can be warm as well, which allows for comfortable wearing of shorts and t-shirt outdoors at 11pm.. where in Calgary it is almost maditory sweater and long pants after sunset. This also explains the fact that every house built after the 1950's included air conditioning in Winnipeg .. its just a much warmer climate than Calgary. Infact you look at the temps for the last month Calgary's high's have barely reached Winnipeg's lows.


Also keep in mind that Environment Canada takes its temperatures in in the shade, so 26 in the shade can easily be 30 out on the ol' patio sippin a cold one. ..... but having snow fall pretty well all year around is cold no matter what. Especially to someone from Winnipeg who is expecting upto +30 into September.. but gets +4 and snow.

newflyer
May 6, 2007, 2:36 AM
Hey man. Perhaps Lake Winnipeg isn't as clean as it used to be, however now that I am "living" in Calgary for the summer, I can tell you that there is really nothing in terms of beaches around this place to fill my summer void. At least in Edmonton they are somewhat closer to swimmable lakes, but Calgary has NADA to offer in that department that isn't manmade. :hell:

Come on .. what about Lake Simcome .. :yuck: ... 5000 people surrounding a pond. Tell me that water is healthy.

Smron
May 6, 2007, 2:38 AM
You guys even argue about Winnipeg vs. Calgary weather?

newflyer
May 6, 2007, 2:59 AM
You guys even argue about Winnipeg vs. Calgary weather?

Good point.

Calgary has nicer winters .. Winnipeg has nicer rest of the year. :yes: .. if you don't like snow that is.

IntotheWest
May 6, 2007, 3:19 AM
Average could mean a total of all temps .. high and low spread out over a particular period. Winnipeg lows can be warm as well, which allows for comfortable wearing of shorts and t-shirt outdoors at 11pm.. where in Calgary it is almost maditory sweater and long pants after sunset. This also explains the fact that every house built after the 1950's included air conditioning in Winnipeg .. its just a much warmer climate than Calgary. Infact you look at the temps for the last month Calgary's high's have barely reached Winnipeg's lows.


Also keep in mind that Environment Canada takes its temperatures in in the shade, so 26 in the shade can easily be 30 out on the ol' patio sippin a cold one. ..... but having snow fall pretty well all year around is cold no matter what. Especially to someone from Winnipeg who is expecting upto +30 into September.. but gets +4 and snow.


The averages he pointed out were highs, not overall. As far as comparing highs (Winnipeg) to lows (Calgary), I have no idea where you get your info from. Winnipeg has had a nice stretch as of late, but it started April the same way as Calgary...cold. And despite a nice warm March in Calgary, April was not so nice (as it can be in Calgary)...however, on "average", Winnipeg doesn't even start getting warmer than Calgary until May (19.2c vs 16.4c). I lived in Winnipeg for 26 years, so I do understand the climate there.

And by September - which is equally nice on the Prairies - Winnipeg is averaging around 18.6c vs Calgary's 17.6c...lows of 6c vs 4c. As far as "+30c in September" - that has happened .63 days/year worth over the last 30 years, vs .23 days in Calgary...so, it can happen, but maybe once every 2nd year (or 4 years in Calgary). So, your +30c to +4c comparison seems a little lopsided to say the least.

The air conditioning in Winnipeg is more to handle the humidity - not just the heat.

Albertaboy - I fully agree that there are no beaches close by that are worthy of a nice day around Calgary. However, if you are spending an entire summer here, you'd be doing yourself a favour and taking the incredibly scenic 7 hour drive into the Okanagan and enjoying some beach weather there - and by the way, its on average warmer than MB.

newflyer
May 6, 2007, 3:23 AM
However, if you are spending an entire summer here, you'd be doing yourself a favour and taking the incredibly scenic 7 hour drive into the Okanagan and enjoying some beach weather there

.. or you could fly 2 short hours and enjoy some of the finest fresh water beaches in the world in MB.

The air conditioning in Winnipeg is more to handle the humidity - not just the heat.

Winnipeg is not that humid .. although its all realitive. Most of the older air conditioners don't have dehumidifiers .... but when you trying to sleep in a room hoovering in the low 30's ... you are only too happy to have a way to cool the room back down to the low twenties. In Calgary you only have to open a window a hour before bed, and than close it again before you goto sleep unless you have some warm blankets to keep warm.

So, your +30c to +4c comparison seems a little lopsided to say the least.

Like I said the temps you are using are taken in the shade... sitting out in the sun can easily make a +25 into +30.

.. and I know Calgary far too well... and can vouch that I have seen many cold September days. Its not even worth discussing beyond I've lived it... snow and all.

Lets take this past week as an example .. where Winnipeg was in the mid 20's and Calgary was having snow in the middle of the afternoon. The Winnipeg lows were warmer than Calgary's highs on most days.. and that doesn't even take into account the Environ Can stat of what it actually feels like, where Calgary had fallen below zero... in May... and April wasn't much better.

Yes .. even weather stats can be misleading if you don't take then in context.

IntotheWest
May 6, 2007, 4:15 AM
^So, you're saying the stats are wrong? And that "mid 20s" in Winnipeg in April/May is common for a high?? You want to use just the past 2 weeks as an example?

From your ability to mix and match stats at will to suit your arguments, it would be similar to me saying "Take March 2004, when the temperature was +25.4c in Calgary, while in Winnipeg was some 15c less - and that was warm for Winnipeg"...sorry, not buying your reasoning. Stats serve a purpose for a reason.

And "trying to sleep in a room hovering in the low 30's"? Huh? Winnipeg's average lows in July/Aug are 13c/11c...or are you sleeping at 4pm (on one of the 13 days that reaches 30c or beyond)?

Dude - like I said, I lived in Winnipeg for 26 years, and I have no idea where you get your personal stats from. Sitting out in the sun can easily make +20c feel like +25c? So? Not sure I follow your point....both Calgary's and Winnipeg's temps are taken using the same standards.

From your calculations, it snows everyday in September in Calgary, and is +30c in Winnipeg every day. Hmmmmm...not getting your logic.


As far as the Okanagan suggestion, it was only that...I assume Albertaboy already knows grand beach. Try something different. The Okanagan is extremely scenic, has some beautiful beaches, and the difference in temperature is 3+c warmer - about the same as Winnipeg to Calgary. And no humidity.

Smron
May 6, 2007, 5:10 AM
OK... take Winnipeg's weather. Take a few degrees from the average summer temperature, and spread it out over the winter. Now take some of those snowy January days, and put them in July. Voila! Now you have Calgary's weather!

They are really quite similar you see.

Greco Roman
May 6, 2007, 5:11 AM
Bottom line: Calgary has nicer, warmer winters, and Winnipeg has nicer, warmer summers. These are the facts. :tup:

newflyer
May 6, 2007, 5:35 AM
From your calculations, it snows everyday in September in Calgary, and is +30c in Winnipeg every day. Hmmmmm...not getting your logic.


Holly man .. just becuase I said it snows in Calgary in September .. don't put words in my mouth. Its not everyday .. but much too often for someone who enjoys long summers.

Trust me .. I love the chinooks during the winter .. so I am not saying all of Calgary's weather is bad. Its now May and I think we are all ready for some nice weather.. I think we can at least agree on that.

newflyer
May 6, 2007, 5:38 AM
OK... take Winnipeg's weather. Take a few degrees from the average summer temperature, and spread it out over the winter. Now take some of those snowy January days, and put them in July. Voila! Now you have Calgary's weather!

They are really quite similar you see.

I real question is .. what do you value more .. warm summers or warm winters?

Personally I love sitting outside during the summer .. or heading to the beach.

I know many who love the late snow falls .. as it extends the ski season. Its all in what turns your crank I guess.

IntotheWest
May 6, 2007, 6:00 AM
^I'm not putting words in your mouth...go back and read what you wrote. Hardly any place in Canada can claim to have "long summers", especially on the prairies. The average highs are 1 degree off for September (17.6 vs 18.6).

Snow in Sept? For sure. But the temp at times in Winnipeg starts dipping close enough to (or below) zero in September too. Because of the elevation in Calgary, it can still by 5c and snowing...newflyer, if you're here, you likely know that (as it just did a couple days ago). The snow doesn't make it any colder.

Smron - we're talking 2-3 degrees on average in July and August difference (admittedly, that is somewhat noticeable - but its not air-conditioning-required-hot versus nearly snowing), but it's a 9-10 degree spread in January...hardly taking a few snowy days and "putting them in July". You go find the stats that show snow falling in July in Calgary. Please, if you can (I'll save you the time, and say it'll be tough).

Smron
May 6, 2007, 6:01 AM
I just love getting Calgarians all riled up. Obviously it's pretty easy.

No big deal... http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/1999/07/15/ab_snow990715.html

or from Wikipedia...

Alberta borders the Canadian Rocky Mountains and the southern portion benefits from frequent moderate climatic conditions known as "chinooks" where warm winds raise the winter temperature sufficiently to allow a full range of winter sports and the occasional game of golf. Alberta's weather is exceptionally changeable, and short-sleeve weather can occur in January and February, or conversely it can (albeit rarely) snow in July and August.

One particular camping website warns potential tourists to keep in mind it has been known to snow in July, and to pack extra gear just incase.

Smron
May 6, 2007, 6:06 AM
All in all, it looks like Winnipeg's weather is great in summer, and horrible in winter. But at least it's consistent. Calgary's weather is a lot like their hockey team.... very inconsistent.

rrskylar
May 6, 2007, 6:08 AM
I'll take Winnipeg's weather from April 15th until October 15th, but I want Calgary's from October 15th until April 15th!

IntotheWest
May 6, 2007, 2:36 PM
Smron - not "all riled up", I just love how Winnipegers try to justify enduring the endlessly frozen winters to gain a couple degrees on average in July and August.:)

So, you found one incident that had "trace" amounts of snow in July...Is that the only one you could find? I didn't say it doesn't happen - I said its quite rare. Should I bring up August 2004 in the Peg? I was working there at the time, and I must say, it wasn't great...in fact, it was about the same average as Calgary (both highs/lows) as the 1999 July you've found to have a little snow falling. Or how about the fact that it got down to 0c one night (versus the low of 2.5 when snowing)? In August, in Winnipeg.

I've seen snow easily in the mountains when camping in the summer. Again, the elevation here really helps to a) cool the nights, and b) snow at higher temperatures.

And btw - the Flames are very consistent...win at home, not on the road.;)

bc2mb
May 6, 2007, 4:31 PM
winnipeg's summers are hotter, sunnier and better than Calgary's.

Calgary's winters are milder (and better) than Winnipeg's. But Calgary's summers are not as hot as Winnipeg's.

that's all. back to class!

Smron
May 6, 2007, 6:03 PM
Smron - not "all riled up", I just love how Winnipegers try to justify enduring the endlessly frozen winters to gain a couple degrees on average in July and August.:)

So, you found one incident that had "trace" amounts of snow in July...Is that the only one you could find? I didn't say it doesn't happen - I said its quite rare. Should I bring up August 2004 in the Peg? I was working there at the time, and I must say, it wasn't great...in fact, it was about the same average as Calgary (both highs/lows) as the 1999 July you've found to have a little snow falling. Or how about the fact that it got down to 0c one night (versus the low of 2.5 when snowing)? In August, in Winnipeg.

I've seen snow easily in the mountains when camping in the summer. Again, the elevation here really helps to a) cool the nights, and b) snow at higher temperatures.

And btw - the Flames are very consistent...win at home, not on the road.;)

Yes, you are riled up. And nobody is trying to 'justify' the cold winters. Winter sucks in Winnipeg, we all know this. But when it comes down to summer, I'd rather be soaking up the sun in Manitoba than shovelling out my driveway in Calgary. Case closed.

Greco Roman
May 6, 2007, 6:09 PM
Sorry, but Calgarians have waaaayyyyy too much pride for their own good. They have to be the best at everything. And if they are told they aren't, oh man, watch 90% of them get all worked up and dump all over your town. Hell, they'll dump all over your town even when they are calm.

Strange brew those Calgarians. ;)

jalapano
May 7, 2007, 3:06 AM
^

"Should I bring up August 2004 in the Peg? it wasn't great...in fact, it was about the same average as Calgary (both highs/lows)
the same as Calgary eh
^Or how about the fact that it got down to 0c one night
...........:sly: wow, a whole night
^So, you're saying the stats are wrong? And that "mid 20s" in Winnipeg in April/May is common for a high?? You want to use just the past 2 weeks as an example?
actually thats only a few degress ubove average (17-18C) for this time of year

newflyer
May 7, 2007, 5:47 PM
^I'm not putting words in your mouth...go back and read what you wrote. Hardly any place in Canada can claim to have "long summers", especially on the prairies. The average highs are 1 degree off for September (17.6 vs 18.6).

Snow in Sept? For sure. But the temp at times in Winnipeg starts dipping close enough to (or below) zero in September too. Because of the elevation in Calgary, it can still by 5c and snowing...newflyer, if you're here, you likely know that (as it just did a couple days ago). The snow doesn't make it any colder.

Smron - we're talking 2-3 degrees on average in July and August difference (admittedly, that is somewhat noticeable - but its not air-conditioning-required-hot versus nearly snowing), but it's a 9-10 degree spread in January...hardly taking a few snowy days and "putting them in July". You go find the stats that show snow falling in July in Calgary. Please, if you can (I'll save you the time, and say it'll be tough).

Calgary's snow season is the longest of all major cities in Canada. It can and has snowed every month of the year, if you believe the many stories from the locals. Stories of snow during the stampede ... Blizzards during Calgary Cannons (baseball) games. I have personally seen it snow in Calgary every month except July.

LOL .. There was trace amounts of snow in Calgary (Deer Ridge) last Aug. Calgary can be a pretty cold city during the summer months no matter how you want to spin it. This also doesn't include the commonly cold evenings.. sweaters are a must on most evenings.

Winnipeg's patio season is much longer than Calgary's. I realize you take an extremely simplistic view of metrology and the weather reports taken from a shaded weather station at the airport is the sole source of info, but trust me as a person who grewup with a Phd metrogolist and climitogoly scienctific researcher as a father, and as one who has taken related courses in university, I can gaurentee that your not getting the temperture from a sunny patio in downtown area with your limited info. There is a significant amount direct solar heat which environement Canada eliminates as a means to get the actual "air tempertaure"... (they also record the solar temp, along with enumerous other stats), but don't post them all on the weather netword, but if you looked into it you'd see how misinformed you really are.


But the proof in in the pudding ... you only have to compare the weather stats between the two cities over the last month. Its been warm and sunny in one, while its been cold and miserable in the other.. including 2 days with snow aready this May.

YOU DID PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH ... I never said it snows every day in Calgary during May or thoughout the summer, but it is much more common. It is caused mostly by its relation to the Rocky Mountains... and when you get an air current off the northern mountains it cools off to unseasonable levels very quickly... if there is enough mosture in the air.. voila, snow city.

newflyer
May 7, 2007, 5:55 PM
^So, you're saying the stats are wrong? And that "mid 20s" in Winnipeg in April/May is common for a high?? You want to use just the past 2 weeks as an example?

Please look at the facts .. this is pretty well normal, maybe a couple degrees over, but there is always temperature flux of a few degrees.


On the other hand.. I don't see Calgarians point out how far out of the norm it is to have plus temps in December or January. We are not taking 2 or 3 degrees from its norm... but thanks to the Chinooks it makes a nice temporary boost in temps.

newflyer
May 7, 2007, 5:56 PM
.. edit

Smron
May 7, 2007, 7:02 PM
Calgary's snow season is the longest of all major cities in Canada. It can and has snowed every month of the year, if you believe the many stories from the locals. Stories of snow during the stampede ... Blizzards during Calgary Cannons (baseball) games. I have personally seen it snow in Calgary every month except July.

LOL .. There was trace amounts of snow in Calgary (Deer Ridge) last Aug. Calgary can be a pretty cold city during the summer months no matter how you want to spin it. This also doesn't include the commonly cold evenings.. sweaters are a must on most evenings.

Winnipeg's patio season is much longer than Calgary's. I realize you take an extremely simplistic view of metrology and the weather reports taken from a shaded weather station at the airport is the sole source of info, but trust me as a person who grewup with a Phd metrogolist and climitogoly scienctific researcher as a father, and as one who has taken rated courses in university, I can gaurentee that your not getting the temperture from a sunny patio in downtown area with your limited info. There is a significant amount direct solar heat which environement Canada eliminates as a means to get the actual "air tempertaure"... (they also record the solar temp, along with enumerous other stats), but don't post them all on the weather netword, but if you looked into it you'd see how misinformed you really are.


But the proof in in the pudding ... you only have to compare the weather stats between the two cities over the last month. Its been warm and sunny in one, while its been cold and miserable in the other.. including 2 days with snow aready this May.

YOU DID PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH ... I never said it snows every day in Calgary during May or thoughout the summer, but it is much more common. It is caused mostly by its relation to the Rocky Mountains... and when you get an air current off the northern mountains it cools off to unseasonable levels very quickly... if there is enough mosture in the air.. voila, snow city.

Wow... burninated.

IntotheWest
May 8, 2007, 12:40 AM
^wow, you are all riled up. :)

Newflyer, since you want to still bring up such things like how warm it "feels", and not the EC temperature, you have to realize, the sun has the same affect in Calgary...does it not? If it's only 18c, it feels like 22c on the patio (by the way, I was sitting at a patio back in March here - about that temperature). I would agree that it does, and my south-facing backyard has been over 20c anytime EC is reporting 15c+ in Calgary...very comfortable.

As far as comparing the "last month", well, I'd have to say your dad didn't teach you much for comparing climates, if you just want to take a snapshot of a small period of time and draw conclusions (in this case, one of the colder April's in Calgary vs a decent one in Winnipeg)...that's what 30-year rolling averages are for. ;)

However, this is what it looked like anyway:

Winnipeg

April
01 3.0 -2.1
02† -2.0 -8.5
03† -6.8 -12.2
04† -4.2 -13.1
05† -3.6 -13.6
06† -3.8 -13.5
07† -0.7 -11.6
08† 0.6 -13.2
09† 3.7 -11.1
10† 7.6 -7.1
11† 7.5 -5.8
12† 8.6 -5.1
13† 13.2 -4.1
14† 12.1 -6.1
15† 18.8 0.5
16† 16.3 -0.4
17† 16.9 -5.1
18† 20.1 0.1
19† 18.8 1.6
20† 22.2 9.1
21† 20.6 3.5
22† 18.7 0.0
23† 15.3 -4.4
24† 15.4 0.2
25† 23.6 -1.5
26† 23.7E 3.4E
27† 19.4 5.1
28† 26.7E 5.1E
29† 20.0 4.4
30† 20.3 6.4

May
01 16.3 4.7
02† 17.7 2.0
03† 23.7 8.7
04† 14.8 10.5
05† 15.2 9.3
06† 17.7 9.7



Calgary

April
01 -0.6 -8.0
02† -7.3 -10.1
03† -6.1 -9.8
04† -5.0 -9.4
05† -3.2 -5.9
06† -2.6 -8.1
07† 2.5 -4.9
08† 12.5 -4.1
09† 5.8 -2.2
10† 2.3 -0.4
11† 6.9 -1.6
12† 11.8 -6.0
13† 16.0 -1.7
14† 17.5 4.7
15† 11.1 0.2
16† 16.1 -1.7
17† 14.8 0.5
18† 3.2 0.0
19† 3.0 -0.3
20† 0.6 -1.3
21† 7.6 -1.7
22† 7.2 -1.0
23† 15.6 1.4
24 18.1 0.6
25† 12.9 1.9
26 15.3 -0.5
27† 18.7 2.9
28† 13.7E 2.1E
29† 15.9 1.5
30† 12.9 -5.4

May
01 16.4 3.7
02† 14.0 3.2
03† 6.8 1.4
04† 7.1 3.1
05 14.2 -7.2
06 19.0 -4.0

Hardly tropical in either place, really. Or, do you disagree with that? Or, do you just want to try and highlight the 8 days in Winnipeg where it's actually been "over 20c"...about 5 days more than average (compared to Calgary, where in the first time in 8 years, has not had a 20c day in March or April)?

I've never claimed Calgary is tropical in the summers, and never claimed that its warmer than Winnipeg - just trying to point out its not as cold as some (re: Newflyer) is making it out. If it is, than what do you think Okanaganans think of Winnipegs "cooler" summers (about the same difference as Winnipeg to Calgary)? Or heck, anyone south of the 49th? They must think its absolutely cold, no?

Also, with regards to your comment, "I don't see Calgarians point out how far out of the norm it is to have plus temps in December or January"...you don't see it, because it's not "out of the norm". In fact, it is the norm. On average (there's those pesky averages again ;) ), December has 16.6 days and January has 15 days with highs above 0c. Or, if you'd prefer to use your latest-year snapshot theory, Dec 2006 had 20 days with above 0c highs, while January 2007 had 21 days with highs above 0c. Oh, and don't let the 13.1c recorded on the 25th (at the airport, in a field, in the shade) fool you...it was recording 18c on my deck. I remember, because I was having a blast barbecuing.

Anyway...this is a silly argument. I was originally trying to just point out some misconceptions about Calgary's snowy summer weather. I do hope its a good summer in Winnipeg, as I'll be there in August. I just don't want a repeat of 2004.

Marc B.
May 8, 2007, 1:05 AM
I do hope its a good summer in Winnipeg, as I'll be there in August. I just don't want a repeat of 2004.

Who does? (although, my neighbour across the street has his Christmas lights on right now. It's 24 above and still daylight. There's a lit up santa on his roof and everything. So, maybe he knows something we don't).

IntotheWest
May 8, 2007, 1:49 AM
^Well, that was the last time I worked in the Peg. I had prepared my fellow workers flying up from Texas and California for a good summer by telling them how warm it can get - not as warm as Texas, but pretty close to SoCal. It never did.

I missed last summer, which was extrodinarily warm (some 4-5 degrees warmer than average in July and August)...whenever I talked to my parents they were complaining that the humidex was over 30c, and uncomfortably warm. But, at least great lake weather (actually, the only way I can handle that humidity and heat now).

newflyer
May 8, 2007, 3:37 AM
Anyway...this is a silly argument. I was originally trying to just point out some misconceptions about Calgary's snowy summer weather. I do hope its a good summer in Winnipeg, as I'll be there in August. I just don't want a repeat of 2004.

I agree with you completely .. on both accounts. Arguing about numbers is silly... and 2004 was a horrible summer in the Peg. I remember moving at the start of July across town and couldn't believe how horrible the weather was .. cold and lots of rain. :yuck: I also had realitives in from Lousiana .. and had to explain away the cold spell with reasurrance that it is normally much warmer.

If your in Winnipeg when I'm there on a visit maybe we can meet up for a beer on one of the patios I love talking about. :cheers:

Only The Lonely..
May 8, 2007, 3:59 AM
I agree with you completely .. on both accounts. Arguing about numbers is silly... and 2004 was a horrible summer in the Peg. I remember moving at the start of July across town and couldn't believe how horrible the weather was .. cold and lots of rain. :yuck: I also had realitives in from Lousiana .. and had to explain away the cold spell with reasurrance that it is normally much warmer.

If your in Winnipeg when I'm there on a visit maybe we can meet up for a beer on one of the patios I love talking about. :cheers:

Yes, we'll have to call a special meeting of the WUI at the Woodbine to celebrate Newflyers homecoming. At the bare minimum i'll have a solitary drink in my garage to your honour.

newflyer
May 8, 2007, 4:12 AM
Yes, we'll have to call a special meeting of the WUI at the Woodbine to celebrate Newflyers homecoming. At the bare minimum i'll have a solitary drink in my garage to your honour.

Not sure about the Woodbine... and I hope we can do better than a garage.

I'm thinking something at the Forks would be more to my liking. I enjoy that little outdoor patio along the stairway down to the docks. They play that carribean music.. a very summer feel to it. :cool:

Greco Roman
May 8, 2007, 11:52 PM
Nothing wrong in Winnipeg tommorrow. 32C.

Ahhhh, wishing I was there. :slob:

With my luck, it'll probably snow in Calgary tommorrow, lol.

newflyer
May 9, 2007, 12:19 AM
Nothing wrong in Winnipeg tommorrow. 32C.

Ahhhh, wishing I was there. :slob:

With my luck, it'll probably snow in Calgary tommorrow, lol.

Shhhh!!!!! ... don't temp fate.

In all fairnes it was a very nice day in Calgary today.

1ajs
May 9, 2007, 2:09 AM
http://www.pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/831.jpg

newflyer
May 9, 2007, 2:37 AM
http://www.pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/831.jpg

I know.... I'm jealous. :rolleyes:


Too bad that food outlet isn't an actual store front.

1ajs
May 9, 2007, 2:58 AM
I know.... I'm jealous. :rolleyes:


Too bad that food outlet isn't an actual store front.

yes but hes there every day when its warm out........ and been there for years lol minus well have a store front and the onion restraunt padio was packed also o and the kings head looked packed.......

rrskylar
May 9, 2007, 8:53 PM
May 9/07 3:54 PM

Winnipeg +31c

Calgary +13c


Which is warmer?

LilZebra
May 9, 2007, 9:20 PM
I know.... I'm jealous. :rolleyes:


Too bad that food outlet isn't an actual store front.

I wuz there today and had a fries. The guy plays Hank FM.

Also saw rgalston near City Hall on my way back from picking up DVD of Jan. 25th Council meeting.

IntotheWest
May 10, 2007, 12:15 AM
May 9/07 3:54 PM

Winnipeg +31c

Calgary +13c


Which is warmer?


You're seriously not going to start this nonsense again, are you? The one day of the month where its completely not seasonal weather, and you want to compare? Wait until this cold front moving through AB comes your way in a couple days...

Only The Lonely..
May 10, 2007, 12:16 AM
You're seriously not going to start this nonsense again, are you? The one day of the month where its completely not seasonal weather, and you want to compare? Wait until this cold front moving through AB comes your way in a couple days...

Sounds kinda nice. I'm not sure I can stand drinking cold beer in the street for much longer.

IntotheWest
May 10, 2007, 12:20 AM
^Well, it'll be short-lived, but Weather Network is showing a high of 11c and rain...a regular winter day in Vancouver. :)

Brokenhead
May 10, 2007, 4:54 AM
Sure was nice today!!

Even got too hot for my cat after staying outside all morning, than slept for like 4 hours.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7403/resizeofmay9th176uy1.jpg

Greco Roman
May 10, 2007, 6:01 AM
OK people. This topic has been beaten to death, but just to clarify one more time.

Calgary winters are warmer.
Winnipeg summers are warmer.


PERIOD.


Next..................

IntotheWest
May 10, 2007, 3:01 PM
^Well Albertaboy, once again you've summed it up, eh? :)

Coldrsx
May 10, 2007, 4:19 PM
climate in canada unless you live in vancouver is neglible.

Winnipeg has an image issue...here in Edmonton we have finally finally left that behind to a degree, but it has taken 20 yrs.

Winnipeg needs to accomplish before it can be something...and you can see baby steps happening there with condo infill, mts, hydro tower, human rights....but you need the city to buy into it. 10 yrs ago in Edmonton people could give a rats ass about this joint...it got slagged and for good reason. Times have changed now...there is a confidence here i have not seen since before i was born. Condos are sprouting up faster than potholes for once. Office market is ready to go....and finally outside investment is really beginning to come into the market.

Winnipeg needs to motivate itself, clean up its act, and give other people reasons to care about it.

right now, nobody really does...

The Diva
May 10, 2007, 4:36 PM
^^Yep