Never will be built in Austin.

[southsideatx04]

Which proposed building or buildings are not going to become reality in the downtown area or due you think that all of these will be built?

Austonian
Four Seasons Residences
Fifth & Congress (T-Stacey)
Gables Park Plaza
220/300 E. Riverside Project
AquaTerra
Fairfield Residential-Hyatt Project
Red River
Lofts on Shoal Creek
etc.....:runaway: :dead:

[Jdawgboy]

I think most wil be built but not all. I am not going to go that extra step and say wich one/ones I don't think will make it because Im very optimistic and would like to see them all get built, that being said even if some of them do not, Austin will still have a very impressive new skyline.

[KevinFromTexas]

I'd say The Austonian is a done deal. It's actually one of the buildings I feel the best about. I also think the Hyatt project will be built since they've gone through all the trouble of getting approval from the city and fighting the NIMBYS. Not sure about the rest of the projects in your list, though.

[GoldenBoot]

Which proposed building or buildings are not going to become reality in the downtown area or due you think that all of these will be built?

Austonian
Four Seasons Residences
Fifth & Congress (T-Stacey)
Gables Park Plaza
220/300 E. Riverside Project
AquaTerra
Fairfield Residential-Hyatt Project
Red River
Lofts on Shoal Creek
etc.....:runaway: :dead:




Austonian :fingerscrossed:
Four Seasons Residences :tup:
Fifth & Congress (T-Stacey) :fingerscrossed:
Gables Park Plaza :tup:
220/300 E. Riverside Project :koko:Something will be built. But not as originally proposed!!!
AquaTerra :tup:
Fairfield Residential-Hyatt Project :shrug:
Red River :tup:Possibly downscaled - One 30-story building and the other, a 10 to 15-story building
Lofts on Shoal Creek :shrug:More than likely, this will not be built by the current developer

[JAM]

I recently ran into the Fairfield architect. He seemed to indicate that it was going thru, although I never specifically asked him. I got the impression they were actively working on it.

[innov8]

I have a feeling will need to start a thread like this for Sacramento... I hope
Austin get more than you guy expect.

[atx001]

As a percent chance of being built (in my opinion)...

Austonian-90%
Four Seasons Residences-67%
Fifth & Congress (T-Stacey)-74%
Gables Park Plaza-40%*
220/300 E. Riverside Project-52%
AquaTerra-70%
Fairfield Residential-Hyatt Project-85%
Red River-71%
Lofts on Shoal Creek-60%

*This percentage could rise once the Seaholm project plans are finalized.

[MichaelB]

It is interesting to see these forcasts. I have always had the view they all will eventually get built, the question is when! (except maybe the shoal creek project.... wonder if the site requirements will doom it?)

[KevinFromTexas]

What's the problem with the Lofts on Shoal Creek? That building is only supposed to be 7 floors. Other than fiancing and profit reasons, I see no problem.

[MichaelB]

What's the problem with the Lofts on Shoal Creek? That building is only supposed to be 7 floors. Other than fiancing and profit reasons, I see no problem.

Kevin, wastn't there an issue with the creek itself? The setback required vs the buildable land....vs the height? Or did I make that up? I do that sometimes.

[KevinFromTexas]

I'm not sure. There hasn't really been anything in the paper about it since it was first released. Atleast that I know of. I just assumed it was because of financing issues.

[MichaelB]

I'm not sure. There hasn't really been anything in the paper about it since it was first released. Atleast that I know of. I just assumed it was because of financing issues.

Yeah.... I just tried to do a search but didn't turn up anything..... anyone else remember anything about this?

[alexjon]

Ugh, don't trust fairfield, you guys

Yet another timeshare operation that will suck the life out of a hotel/visitor district and then flee when the bubble is about to burst

[MichaelB]

Ugh, don't trust fairfield, you guys

Yet another timeshare operation that will suck the life out of a hotel/visitor district and then flee when the bubble is about to burst

Wha cha know? Where ya talkin about?

[texastarkus]

Well since you put this out for anyone to share his/her opinion, I guess I'll chime in. Every couple of weeks there is another new tower announced. I wouldn't be a bit suprised that most if not all of the delay is caused by the City of Austin planning office being bogged down with blueprints and can't keep up. There is a reason the towers keep getting announced. Evidently someone feels there is a market for downtown condos. Our good mayor did say he wants 25,000 people living downtown and somewhere on this bulletin board I read that will mean 35 fortystory towers will be necessary. If the mayor and council want to keep to their plan, expect to see not only all of these towers under construction but probably ten to fifteen more going up, very soon. The city leaders want to stem the tide of development in the Hill Country by making downtown THE place (for those who can afford it) to live. There will be a point where supply will catch up with the demand and the tower boom will stop or slow but don't forget, the council wants to develop the second street retail district and I don't think they're gonna stop at second street. New incentives for retail on Third and Fourth is coming to tie into the Warehouse District and the Night Clubs on 6th. In my humble opinion, the bottom two or three floors of at least one of the new towers will become a small shopping mall with even more retail. That retail could be shared between a couple of adjacent towers.
So to answer your question, I feel that all of the towers will go up and the city will give their official okey-dokey to even more...but hey what do I know.

[Urbannizer]

Never built Lofts on Shoal Creek:

https://munozalbin.com/project/shoal-creek-lofts/

https://munozalbin.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/PERSPECTIVERENDERING.jpg

[The ATX]

In keeping with the opening post, I'm going with Fifth & Congress (T-Stacey).

It's been 10 years, we've got a lot of catching up to do in this thread. :)

[The ATX]

I'm not sure. There hasn't really been anything in the paper about it since it was first released. Atleast that I know of. I just assumed it was because of financing issues.

I like Kevin's post from February 2007. Were we still relying on "the paper" for info back then? :haha:

[KevinFromTexas]

Yeah, we hadn't gotten wise yet to the ways of the force, and by that I mean, public records. :)

I'm not sure if any of that stuff was available online then, outside of maybe watching their presentations with some imagery.

[The ATX]

Things have totally reversed since 2007. Now it's more like it goes from SSP to a local blog to "the papers". :)

[KevinFromTexas]

With the way online newspapers are going with their dreaded paywalls, they've pretty much become useless anyway as a means of reading up on stuff. I really do not like paywalls. I'm not going to subscribe for a handful of articles a month that I "might" be interested in reading.

One thing I would like us to do here is to compile a list of architecture and real estate industry focused papers. They'd also be a good way of catching interesting projects happening in other cities, not just in Austin.

[myBrain]

This page is a goldmine of projects never built:

http://www.austintowers.net/Austin_Downtown/index_files/tag-new-projects.php

[The ATX]

The OP referenced current projects at the time and questioned the likelihood of them getting built. Following that line of thought, I think these current projects are in trouble as proposed:

The Avenue
48 East
Hotel Mirabeau

Those would of course be in addition to 99 Trinity and WPP. But something will be built on those sites eventually.

[We vs us]

The OP referenced current projects at the time and questioned the likelihood of them getting built. Following that line of thought, I think these current projects are in trouble as proposed:

The Avenue
48 East
Hotel Mirabeau

Those would of course be in addition to 99 Trinity and WPP. But something will be built on those sites eventually.

The Avenue is sad -- it's seemingly so close to moving forward.

[AustinGoesVertical]

What’s the delay with The Avenue? I thought that one was on track.

[The ATX]

What’s the delay with The Avenue? I thought that one was on track.

They clearly couldn't get the financing needed to go forward as a residential project, and so far it's been crickets since they switched to a hotel. That list is just my opinion of projects in trouble.

[Urbannizer]

Defunct Soco Hotel Proposal:

https://www.mues.us/portfolio/south-congress-hotel/

https://www.mues.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northshotsitepsd-1-e1484321088981.jpg

[InFillForLife]

The OP referenced current projects at the time and questioned the likelihood of them getting built. Following that line of thought, I think these current projects are in trouble as proposed:

The Avenue
48 East
Hotel Mirabeau

Those would of course be in addition to 99 Trinity and WPP. But something will be built on those sites eventually.

48 East? It's under construction right now?

[StoOgE]

Defunct Soco Hotel Proposal:

https://www.mues.us/portfolio/south-congress-hotel/

https://www.mues.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northshotsitepsd-1-e1484321088981.jpg

Jesus, that is ugly as hell.

[kingkirbythe....]

Defunct Soco Hotel Proposal:

https://www.mues.us/portfolio/south-congress-hotel/

https://www.mues.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northshotsitepsd-1-e1484321088981.jpg


WOW! Austin needs this built now!

Might be better as my personal home.

[KevinFromTexas]

48 East? It's under construction right now?

Yeah, but The ATX wrote that post almost 2 years ago. Since then both 48 East and The Avenue have started. The Avenue is doing demolition on site, at least. 48 East, which goes by Natiivo these days, is up several floors now.

[KevinFromTexas]

Defunct Soco Hotel Proposal:

https://www.mues.us/portfolio/south-congress-hotel/

https://www.mues.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northshotsitepsd-1-e1484321088981.jpg

I like it, at least parts of it. I think the tower portion is beautiful actually. That facade is intricate and playful. That other part to the east is pretty awful though.

[the Genral]

Right!? It resembles a firefighting training tower. The only thing that it would add to the main tower is expense.

[lonewolf]

it is a disgusting monument to itself which does zero to blend in or work with its surroundings. the design is utter garbage. let's stop quote replying to the image lol.

[Tornado]

Defunct Soco Hotel Proposal:

https://www.mues.us/portfolio/south-congress-hotel/

https://www.mues.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northshotsitepsd-1-e1484321088981.jpg

That definitely looks like a ritzy firefighting tower.

[Tyrone Shoes]

I like it, at least parts of it. I think the tower portion is beautiful actually. That facade is intricate and playful. That other part to the east is pretty awful though.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9t2CgCd/tower.jpg

I wish we could see a night rendering of this...I would love to see it illuminated in warm white and green.

[Mopacs]

The top looks like a chimney

[llamaorama]

Can you imagine how ratchet that would look now, 15 years later, from weather staining on the concrete, rust on the metal balconies, and crud on the glass that would be impossible to actually clean without a rappeling team?

It's like the infamous Trellick Tower but somehow worse.

[Echostatic]

It's like the infamous Trellick Tower but somehow worse.

Trellick is fantastic. This is... not

[llamaorama]

Trellick is fantastic. This is... not

Sure, if you are a fan of vogon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogon) architecture then maybe it is fantastic.

But no, I mean it's interesting and I'm glad it has historic status. I don't hate it.

[Tornado]

Can you imagine how ratchet that would look now, 15 years later, from weather staining on the concrete, rust on the metal balconies, and crud on the glass that would be impossible to actually clean without a rappeling team?

It's like the infamous Trellick Tower but somehow worse.

:haha:

[Tyrone Shoes]

Defunct Soco Hotel Proposal:

https://www.mues.us/portfolio/south-congress-hotel/

https://www.mues.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/northshotsitepsd-1-e1484321088981.jpg

I forgot about this until I saw this yesterday on a British cop show....someplace in London.
https://i.postimg.cc/Gmq6V8rn/New-Tricks.jpg

[myBrain]

I forgot about this until I saw this yesterday on a British cop show....someplace in London.
https://i.postimg.cc/Gmq6V8rn/New-Tricks.jpg

Trellick Tower
https://www.google.com/search?q=trellick+tower&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS831US831&oq=trellick+tower&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3j46j0l3.2129j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Urbannizer]

https://www.runaworkshop.com/scottish-rite

Beginning as a design study, this unbuilt project pays homage to the iconic Austin building that sits delicately underneath the tower. Key elements in programming aimed to create a space that fostered the idea of an arts district, promoting not only community, but a way of life. Essentially, our design concept related to the core values of the Austin Scottish Rite Theatre, bringing community together through art.

The biggest design challenge was of course the existing theatre that needed to be incorporated. Our solution was to embrace and preserve the original architecture, juxtaposed by a large modern tower that straddled the structure. The building itself, comprised of an exoskeleton fabric, creates a cradle (or net) of interlocking bands that pay tribute to the Freemason hands that have worked so hard at their craft. This overlay not only created visual interest, but provided an intentional circulation for moments of congregation and collaboration. While this project did not come to fruition, we love the challenges that it posed, the result of the design, and the conversations it sparked, showing promise for the future of Austin’s art scene.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a71e6f0a9db0973a5a28ab6/1623081126156-Q26AADPJO3VF2NVP04RN/aerial+view.jpg?format=1500w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a71e6f0a9db0973a5a28ab6/1623081133774-5569B6L2Z1WD453CA5DY/eye+view.jpg?format=750w

[Urbannizer]

1011 East 16th

https://www.estately.com/listings/info/1011-e-16th-st

https://images.estately.net/26_9218526_4_1633482526_636x435.jpg

[Urbannizer]

2105 San Antonio St

https://www.rios.com/projects/austin-student-housing-design-competition/

https://www.rios.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Austin-Student-Housing-RIOS-2.jpg

https://www.rios.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Austin-Student-Housing-Hero-RIOS-3.jpg