[GreatTallNorth2]

Which Canadian city should (if any) go for another Olympic games, either summer or winter? I think Toronto would be a good choice for the summer games and Quebec City would be an excellent choice for the winter games.

[Calgarian]

Well since Calgary pretty much had the best winter Olympics (first one to make a profit) we should definately try to have them again in 20 years or so.

I would love to see TO have the summer games, but i think it would go to NYC before it ever comes to TO.

[PhilippeMtl]

Which Canadian city should (if any) go for another Olympic games, either summer or winter? I think Toronto would be a good choice for the summer games and Quebec City would be an excellent choice for the winter games.

IDEM

[Taller Better]

Next Canadian city? An attempt to get the Summer Olympics is pointless now because of the Winter Olympics in Vancouver, for at least 15 years.

[big W]

Yeah its going to be a long time before any Canadian City gets the Olympics. It any are going to get it, it will be Toronto. For Montreal, Vancouver and Calgary been there done that thus they would pick another city that has not hosted before one that has. Either way we are looking at least 22 years for the games to come to Canada again after Vancouver.

[GreatTallNorth2]

That's rubbish. Salt Lake City had the games in 2002, just 6 years after Atlanta. That's not to say we would go for it that short after 2010, but I am sure Toronto has to be thinking about trying again in the future.

[Taller Better]

It is not rubbish. The USA holds a GREAT deal more influence and sway than Canada in the world of the Olympics. We could never get the number of Olympics that they do. I should have thought that was just a given.

[habsfan]

It is not rubbish. The USA holds a GREAT deal more influence and sway than Canada in the world of the Olympics. We could never get the number of Olympics that they do. I should have thought that was just a given.

Taller is right. THe US is a much more important country than canada. PLus they have 9 times the population of Canada, thus they have many more cities to choose from!

[vid]

Where would Toronto put them??

It would end up being the Mississauga 2010 Games.

[MolsonExport]

Tuktoyaktuk for the summer games.
Old Crow for the winter games.

[elsonic]

the only countries who seem to qualify winter Olympics are Canada, USA, France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland and Austria.

maybe it would time for Russia, Slovenia and Argentina to go for it.

[caltrane74]

Toronto can never get the Olympics. ... we are not a really Wintery city. And we are not a really Summery city either.

[Taller Better]

Toronto can never get the Olympics. ... we are not a really Wintery city. And we are not a really Summery city either.

They were actually in a very good position to get the Summer Olympics, and still may at some point. Toronto would never run for the Winter Olympics.. we don't have mountains, for one thing, and I doubt if the population would be very interested in such a project, either. I certainly wouldn't.


Where would Toronto put them??

It would end up being the Mississauga 2010 Games.


Oh, they'd squeeze them in somewhere! LOL! It is not a requirement of Summer Olympic Games to have all activities within a ten minute stroll of the downtown business section.

[WHISTLERINMUSKOKA]

I don't want the Olympics, I'd much rather a world fair.

[Taller Better]

I don't want the Olympics, I'd much rather a world fair.


We can thank McGuinty and Steve Hooper for not getting that. And a surprisingly large number of local people who believe that it couldn't work. :(

[harls]

Tuktoyaktuk for the summer games.
Old Crow for the winter games.

Damn, that was my answer.

[circle33]

Old Crow for the winter games.

Leave my wife out of this.

[Taller Better]

^^ LOL! She'd belt you if she were looking over your shoulder right now....

[Coldrsx]

The only 3 cities that could handle a Summer Olympics would be MTL, TOR, and possibly possibly Van.

EDM,CAL et al are simply too small for this menace of a show.

[Xelebes]

How about EDM/CAL?

[LordMandeep]

thats quite a drive to go from one city to ther other.

[Taller Better]

How about EDM/CAL?


One of the problems with the Calgary Winter Olympics was selling seats. Like it or not, Calgary is relatively "remote" from much of the American population. In the end, Calgarians themselves responded to the increasingly desperate pleas and bought up a lot of the tickets themselves, for multiple visits. A city like Toronto is within a one day drive of huge population (Chicago/NYC/Washington/Philly/Boston/Montreal/Detroit, etc...) and thus stands a better chance at making a financial go of it. Montreal was also well placed when they had the Summer Olympics. There is a HUGE difference between hosting the much smaller (and less watched) Winter Olympics and the Summer Olympics.

[WHISTLERINMUSKOKA]

Not to mention when it comes to broadcasting Toronto is in the Eastern time zone along with the largest chunk of the American population.

But I still say I don't care about getting the olympics. We don't need them.

[LordMandeep]

i heard that almost the whole city of calgary use to come out and watch the games sometimes.

Toronto would be good, but imo i would wait 15 years still.

[vid]

Ljubljana 2018 would be cool. :)

[Greco Roman]

Winnipeg and the plethora of lake surrounding the city would be ideal for the Summer Olympics. :)

I could just see myself watching the sail boat races out at Gimli on a sultury summer's day.

[ExcaliburKid]

I don't want the Olympics, I'd much rather a world fair.

I think Edmonton was pursuing the World Fair for 2017, or at least there was MUCH consideration at one point.

[Calgarian]

If Calgary and Edmonton had a high speed rail link between the 2 cities, we could easily co-host a Summer games. I think that the Olympics are a big enough event that anywhere in North America would have no problem selling enough tix.

This will never happen though, as we will never get the high speed rail.

[IntotheWest]

One of the problems with the Calgary Winter Olympics was selling seats. Like it or not, Calgary is relatively "remote" from much of the American population. In the end, Calgarians themselves responded to the increasingly desperate pleas and bought up a lot of the tickets themselves, for multiple visits. A city like Toronto is within a one day drive of huge population

It's still considered one of the most successful Olympics ever...though, admittedly, Winter games are 1/10th the size of the Summer games. But, regardless of who bought the tickets.

Anyway - Calgary has changed quite a bit in 20 years, relatively "remote" then is largely different now because of the direct flights coming into the city. There is no doubt Calgary could host this once again (and with expansions to the existing facilities to bring them up to new standards - maybe a possibility down the road?).


However, I'd like to see TO get the summer games...I agree it's not the best place for winter games, but could be good for summer. Vancouver is too small as well for summer games.

What about Quebec City for Winter games??

[shreddog]

While I would like to see a future olympics in Canada, IMHO I think we may never see the olympics here again. The world dynamics within the IOC are so different now than even 10 years ago.

Tradionally the Olympics would alternate Europe-NA-the rest of the world. That pretty much meant that the US or Canada would get an olympics roughly every 6 years (76/Mtrl-80/Placid-84/LA-88/Calg-96/Atla-02/SLC-10/Van = 7 games over 34 years). This was driven by many reasons, but obviously economics was the biggest.

Today, both China and India are assuming major economic status, as well as South American countries are now very intersted in these games. Since the IOC wants to advance the sale of their brand, North America is now going to have to share the winter and summer games with Asia and South America, plus the IOC wants to get back to Africa.

As such NA will get fewer games in the future and when they do come here, expect there to be a strong desire to get back to to Mexico and the US. No matter how we feel about it, an olympics in the US will always be more popular in the US market than one in Canada.

Sadly then, I don't think that Toronto would be in a position to win a bid for at least 30/35 years - and by that time who knows what the olympics will even be like??

Of course this is really annoying considering that either the 96 or 08 games should have been in Toronto.

[Distill3d]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and nominate Inuvik for the Winter Games and Oosoyoos for the Summer Games.

the IOC tends to go for cities no one has ever really heard of like Lillehammer,Norway and Grenoble France. so why not have them in either of those two cities?

[The Jabroni]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and nominate Inuvik for the Winter Games and Oosoyoos for the Summer Games.

the IOC tends to go for cities no one has ever really heard of like Lillehammer,Norway and Grenoble France. so why not have them in either of those two cities?

Exactly. Why not have the summer games in Winnipeg? Or even in Saskatoon?

[SpongeG]

the only countries who seem to qualify winter Olympics are Canada, USA, France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland and Austria.

maybe it would time for Russia, Slovenia and Argentina to go for it.

korea bidded and almost won over vancouver

japan has hosted the winter games before

[Brokenhead]

I've heard Salt Lake City used bribery.


I think it should go to any province/territory which hadn't held a olympics. Montreal and Calgary already had their moments. Vancouver is going to have its moment. Maybe in 20 some years when the oympics came to Canada again another city can have the Olympic Glory.

[Jared]

Taller is right. THe US is a much more important country than canada. PLus they have 9 times the population of Canada, thus they have many more cities to choose from!

Not to mention that the US has Summer then Winter, whereas we would be gunning for Winter then Summer. Since there is a much more limited pool of countries vying for the Winter games, it's much easier to get them fairly soon afterwards.

If TO has got 2008, Vancouver could have probably had a decent shot at 2018. However, Vancouver is getting 2010, and I very much doubt TO would have any shot at 2020.

[Distill3d]

japan has hosted the winter games before

in two cities:

1972: Sapporo
1998: Nagano

[401_King]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and nominate Inuvik for the Winter Games and Oosoyoos for the Summer Games.

the IOC tends to go for cities no one has ever really heard of like Lillehammer,Norway and Grenoble France. so why not have them in either of those two cities?

i dunno if the IOC tends to go for random places over known places more.. at least for summer.....i could make a case for Atlanta, athens, barcelona, berlin, LA, Seoul?sp?......the list goes kinda on

[dubiousmike]

It's still considered one of the most successful Olympics ever...though, admittedly, Winter games are 1/10th the size of the Summer games. But, regardless of who bought the tickets.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6305428387.01._PE43_.Cool-Runnings._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[malek]

I wonder if Mont Tremblant is high enough for (winter) Olympic standards.

[Taller Better]

i dunno if the IOC tends to go for random places over known places more.. at least for summer.....i could make a case for Atlanta, athens, barcelona, berlin, LA, Seoul?sp?......the list goes kinda on

I think most people would agree that Atlanta was a 'mistake' as a choice. Those games were truly uninspired... as for choosing unknown places, I think people truly have to differentiate between Summer and Winter Games. They are completely different animals.

Winnipeg and the plethora of lake surrounding the city would be ideal for the Summer Olympics. :)

I could just see myself watching the sail boat races out at Gimli on a sultury summer's day.

Winnipeg would be ideal for the Commonwealth Games. I think that would be a perfect match. They did a great job with the Pan Am Games years ago.

[Greco Roman]

Winnipeg would be ideal for the Commonwealth Games. I think that would be a perfect match. They did a great job with the Pan Am Games years ago.


Bah! Let's get the best in town; fuck the commonwealth games and the useless monarchy that it symbolizes. :cool:

[401_King]

I think most people would agree that Atlanta was a 'mistake' as a choice. Those games were truly uninspired... as for choosing unknown places, I think people truly have to differentiate between Summer and Winter Games. They are completely different animals.

im not sure what you mean by uninspired...

but for me, personally, they were the most memorable. Donovan Bailey100, Canada 4x100, michael johnson double gold 200 400...what an olympics for T&F!!

cant forget the atlanta bomb either that was big news.

[dubiousmike]

Totally. I was glued to the TV for Atlanta. Athens and Sydney went right over my head.

[WHY-T]

What about Quebec City for Winter games??
They were a runner-up for the 2002 Games. I remember they had quite a big campaign advertising for it, with banners all around Quebec City and Montreal as well. I think they had good hopes of getting it, but finally ended up in SLC. They had nice logo too.

I still think they are a pretty good candidate for the Winter Games, as Quebec is known for its...well...winterly winters, and the ski resorts are probably some of the best in the east coast (Mont-Ste-Anne, Massif, etc.). Same for Montreal area (from Mt-Tremblant to Eastern Townships).

[Taller Better]

Atlanta was soundly criticized afterward for the entire games. I remember quite a bit of controversy about it, with people thinking that they had done a poor job. I don't really watch a lot of the Summer Games... a bit, I guess ( diving especially :naughty:, and some of the wrestling :naughty::naughty:). I don't watch any of the Winter Games, at all. Just doesn't appeal to me. I remember after the last Winter Games, talking to my friend in England. He had had no idea that they had even been on, as coverage there was so small.

[401_King]

haha well F england then!

canada is going to be a bigtime contender in 2010. i wouldnt be surprised if we got #1 or 2 in the medal standings. and whether you like it or not, you KNOW ur gonna be forcefed the olympics up here when it rolls around. no one will miss anything! now if we could only improve our summer sports...we are just horrible.

[401_King]

hopefully canada can MEDAL this time in hockey....

[Brokenhead]

Winnipeg should place a bid for the Summer 2020 games.

I think Winnipeg is a ideal location for the summer games but not for the winter games.

Winnipeg will have plenty of time to prepare.


ahh, dreams...

[Taller Better]

haha well F england then!

canada is going to be a bigtime contender in 2010. i wouldnt be surprised if we got #1 or 2 in the medal standings. and whether you like it or not, you KNOW ur gonna be forcefed the olympics up here when it rolls around. no one will miss anything! now if we could only improve our summer sports...we are just horrible.

When we get within a year of the Winter Olympix, CBC is going to to into its 24 hour a day "All-Olympics-All-the-Time" mode. It will be IMPOSSIBLE to miss it as they will overkill it to smithereens waaaay before it even starts.

[vid]

CTV, TB. CBC Lost the rights to the Olympics to CTV. :)

[Taller Better]

CTV, TB. CBC Lost the rights to the Olympics to CTV. :)

EXCELLENT!! :banana: The bums at CBC will not be bumping my Coronation Street every friggin' Sunday morning for a month or two for pre-Oldlimpdicks drivel, or Frozen Shuffleboard (curling)!! :D :cheers:

[IntotheWest]

I don't watch any of the Winter Games, at all. Just doesn't appeal to me. I remember after the last Winter Games, talking to my friend in England. He had had no idea that they had even been on, as coverage there was so small.

Meh...Brits just aren't good at the winter stuff - remember Eddie the Eagle?

But seriously - how can you not be into watching at least the hockey???? Aside from the track events, and some of the swimming/diving in summer games, I find the winter games more exciting...

Malek - Mont Tremblant is one of the best in Canada (and I've read in some cases, the best)...I think Quebec could do a great job with winter games - it has reliable snow (something Calgary didn't have).

Summer games will always go to the big cities - Toronto is the only city capable in Canada...just think, London has been awarded the Summer Games for the third time now.

[jawagord]

One of the problems with the Calgary Winter Olympics was selling seats. Like it or not, Calgary is relatively "remote" from much of the American population. In the end, Calgarians themselves responded to the increasingly desperate pleas and bought up a lot of the tickets themselves, for multiple visits. A city like Toronto is within a one day drive of huge population (Chicago/NYC/Washington/Philly/Boston/Montreal/Detroit, etc...) and thus stands a better chance at making a financial go of it. Montreal was also well placed when they had the Summer Olympics. There is a HUGE difference between hosting the much smaller (and less watched) Winter Olympics and the Summer Olympics.

What BS TB. The demand was so high there was a lottery to buy Calgary Olympic event tickets. I was one of the fortunate ones who got awarded tickets and could have scalped them before hand for double the price. The only "spare" tickets around were the ones allocated to the IOC members who 1/2 the time don't show up to the events, which pissed alot of people off.

As for Toronto it does have a huge drawing area, but that also makes for huge competition from those other cities to get the games. So far TO doesn't seem to have the royal jelly to get the games.

[Taller Better]

What BS TB. The demand was so high there was a lottery to buy Calgary Olympic event tickets. I was one of the fortunate ones who got awarded tickets and could have scalped them before hand for double the price. The only "spare" tickets around were the ones allocated to the IOC members who 1/2 the time don't show up to the events, which pissed alot of people off..

You are conveniently re-writing history, jawagord. Lottery for tickets? Yes, for the most popular events, for things like hockey, Opening Ceremonies etc..As for the rest, there was a rather desperate appeal in the time leading up to the Calgary Olympics, when it became startlingly obvious that the tickets for outside the province were not selling nearly as well as they had hoped. There was actually a real fear that the games would be a huge flop. An appeal went out to the good folk of Calgary, and they stepped up to the plate in droves to preserve the civic pride. The number of foreign and out of province visitors was low, so please don't tell me it was bs.

[zerokarma]

Next Canadian city? An attempt to get the Summer Olympics is pointless now because of the Winter Olympics in Vancouver, for at least 15 years.

Yea exactly, after Vancouver has their Olympics Canada will have no chance to get it for at least 15-20 years. The Americans would likely get another one before us.

[401_King]

When we get within a year of the Winter Olympix, CBC is going to to into its 24 hour a day "All-Olympics-All-the-Time" mode. It will be IMPOSSIBLE to miss it as they will overkill it to smithereens waaaay before it even starts.

haha you can change the channel if u want man...i think most ppl would agree that the CBC coverage of the olympics is by far the best in the business...

like for instance, NBC in the US onlyshowed taped events, sometimes live. but mostly taped events in primetime. so many people missed their live events during the day and already had it spoiled for them when primetime rolled around. the coverage was sooo horrible. (2006 winter)

[West_aust]

Toronto and Montreal are imo the only candidates for summer olympics, close enough to a large population bassin in the us, both in EST time zone (which also brings all the afternoon competition in prime time in europe)

I wonder if Mont Tremblant is high enough for (winter) Olympic standards.

Probably not, In the Quebec winter olympic bid, they had to make the downhill slopes longer so it could be long enough to hold the competitions, which would have been done at the bottom of the hill, digging or something like that towards the fleuve st-laurent.

I looked at stats, and the vertical drop of Mt-tremblant (which is one of the main stats to measure a ski hill) is 645m/2116feet as opposed to 770m/2526feet for le massif, the proposed hill for the Quebec winter olympics.

Also, there was talk (very initial, probably more of a 2 guys in a pub after a few beers) of montreal bidding for the winter olympics in conjunction with Lake Placid, Lake Placid would have the skiing, bobsled things, montreal would have the rest

[401_King]

My dad went to the Montreal olympics . he enjoyed it. but i wasnt around then...


was it considered a success?

[401_King]

I think if Toronto really markets itself as a global city we can get it sooner here in 20-30 yrs. Toronto is really heading in that direction. I have a lot of faith in this city.

[401_King]

Someone mentioned earlier about a Calgary/Edmonton olympics....how awesome would that be? That would really develop a good transit system between both cities!!

[malek]

My dad went to the Montreal olympics . he enjoyed it. but i wasnt around then...


was it considered a success?


it was considered the first massive olympics with a record number of athletes (for its time). The organization from what I heard was top notch and on budget (huge security appartus after Munich was needed), but the cost of buildings was way way over budget as everyone knows.

Also in '76, and before, the IOC were never involved financially with the host cities... but it changed its ways to encourage other cities to bid after the Montreal deficit.

And for those who don't know Kingston, Ottawa and Toronto actually had some olympic events and Toronto got the Paraolymics.

[SpongeG]

i remember visiting the sailing venue in kingston - its all olympified

[Xelebes]

Someone mentioned earlier about a Calgary/Edmonton olympics....how awesome would that be? That would really develop a good transit system between both cities!!

'Twas me.

[GoflamesGo]

Calgary - Edmonton summer olympics 2020. Sounds nice. and i agree 401 king, It would make the corridor between the 2 cities ( already the fastest growing) into a virtual continous city. In a good way. similar to the newyork to D.C. corridor. obviously smaller. It would also make it possible to create the high speed train. and would deffinatly make it so both airports were expanded to their projected numbers, ahead of schedule.The transit system in the cities would also be finished.

[jeffwhit]

Toronto can never get the Olympics. ... we are not a really Wintery city. And we are not a really Summery city either.

I found living in Toronto hot as fuck in the summer personally. I disagree, I think Toronto would be a great summer olympic host city. Being there for World Cup 2002 was amazing. An international, multicultural event like the Olympics would be awesome in Toronto. Winter Olympics are out since they tore down the Don Valley ski jump. ;)

And I'd love to see Calgary go for it again in about 20 years.

[jeffwhit]

I wonder if Mont Tremblant is high enough for (winter) Olympic standards.

Doesn't Tremblant host world cup events? If so than I'm sure it is.

then just run a Bobsled track down right down Mount Royal and you're set ;)

[mr.x]

Not to mention when it comes to broadcasting Toronto is in the Eastern time zone along with the largest chunk of the American population.

But I still say I don't care about getting the olympics. We don't need them.


That isn't really a problem, any time zone in North America is great for NBC (which provided US$3 billion for tv rights to 2010 and 2012). Take a look at Salt Lake for example....and one of the reasons why tv revenues went up by 40% for 2010 is because NBC predicted Vancouver winning the bid.

[mr.x]

If Calgary and Edmonton had a high speed rail link between the 2 cities, we could easily co-host a Summer games. I think that the Olympics are a big enough event that anywhere in North America would have no problem selling enough tix.

This will never happen though, as we will never get the high speed rail.

A high speed rail line still wouldn't buy the IOC's votes. The distance between Edmonton and Calgary is simply still too far. It has been proposed previously by a German bid, and it was turned down.

[mr.x]

I've heard Salt Lake City used bribery.


I think it should go to any province/territory which hadn't held a olympics. Montreal and Calgary already had their moments. Vancouver is going to have its moment. Maybe in 20 some years when the oympics came to Canada again another city can have the Olympic Glory.

Salt Lake did use bribery. I'm surprised you don't know about it. The bid committee bribed many IOC members, since way back then the bid committees were allowed to travel around and visit IOC members personally. Since, that has been changed and the 2010 bid process was the first bid to be under the influence of the new rules.

[mr.x]

Winnipeg should place a bid for the Summer 2020 games.

I think Winnipeg is a ideal location for the summer games but not for the winter games.

Winnipeg will have plenty of time to prepare.


ahh, dreams...

Winnipeg doesn't even stand a chance in being able to host the Summer Games, nevermind winning them.

[mr.x]

haha you can change the channel if u want man...i think most ppl would agree that the CBC coverage of the olympics is by far the best in the business...

like for instance, NBC in the US onlyshowed taped events, sometimes live. but mostly taped events in primetime. so many people missed their live events during the day and already had it spoiled for them when primetime rolled around. the coverage was sooo horrible. (2006 winter)

I agree too, CBC's coverage is awesome.....but I thought Torino really lagged, probably because the network knew it would be losing the Games after 2008 and didn't want to make any long term investments into its coverage. Even Brian Williams, who anchors Olympic coverage, has left CBC for CTV and they have announced him as the anchor of CTV/TSN's Olympic coverage for 2010 and 2012 (assuming he lives that long). He's a really great Olympic anchor.


About CBC's loss for the 2010 and 2012 rights. They had a joint bid with The Score and were offering the IOC about $100 million and 300 hours of coverage for 2010 and 2012 each.

On the otherhand, here is CTV Globemedia's (formerly known as Bell Globemedia) and Rogers Sportnet's gold plated $150 million deal with the IOC for 4,000 tv hours of 2010 and 2012 coverage with much of it LIVE (unlike NBC). It includes 22 hours of coverage a day, mostly live, on the main CTV channel:


Bell Globemedia - Rogers Olympic Plan Means Unprecedented Choice For Canadians

-- Media partnership outlines plans for more than 4,000 hours of coverage --

Toronto, ON (February 10, 2005) – Commenting on the newly minted Olympic partnership between CTVglobemedia and Rogers Media Inc., Ivan Fecan, President and CEO of CTVglobemedia and CEO of CTV Inc said: “The singular overriding component of our Olympic plan is choice. Simply put: more coverage on more platforms in more media and more languages than ever before. For Canadians, it’s a promise of wall-to-wall coverage on Conventional, Specialty and Digital services, radio, on-line and more. And for our amateur sports federations, a renewed commitment to your growth, development and new heights of success.”

"We're pleased that the IOC recognized the advantages for Canadian viewers and listeners of the BGM-Rogers bid," said Tony Viner, President and CEO, Rogers Media Inc. "The overall coverage will be unprecedented in terms of quality and volume and will highlight the achievements of our athletes".

With the Opening Ceremonies of the Vancouver 2010 Winter Games just 5 years and two days away (Feb. 12, 2010), BGM-Rogers today summarized key details behind its winning bid. They are:

1. Summary of Broadcast Services:
- The following television platforms will provide coverage for the 2010 and 2012 Games: CTV, TQS, OMNI.1, OMNI.2, TSN, RDS, Rogers Sportsnet, RIS Info Sports and OLN. Additionally, agreements are in place to provide coverage on APTN (Aboriginal People’s Television Networks) and ATN, a South-Asian national cable and satellite service. On radio, coverage will be carried on Rogers Radio, an array of 46 local stations across Canada.

2. Total Number of Hours, Television Coverage
- For both the Winter and Summer Games, BGM-Rogers will provide coverage in both French and English 24 hours a day representing a total television commitment of 4,158 hours and broken out as follows:
2010 Winter Games
2012 Summer Games
TOTAL

1,767 Hours (compared to CBC's 300 hours)
2,391 Hours
4,158
- Additionally, a total of 2,636 hours will be presented live, while 1,183.5 hours will be shown in prime-time.

Over-the-Air Television Hours

2010 Games
2012 Games
TOTAL

653 (compared to CBC's 130 hours)
638
1,291

- A service-by-service breakdown is as follows:
CTV will provide coverage 22 hours per day for both Winter and Summer Games pausing only for local and national news. CTV’s total commitment is 704 hours of coverage: 352 hours for 2010; 352 hours for 2012.

French-language TQS will provide a total of 402 hours broken out as follows: 201 hours for 2010; 201 hours for 2012. TQS will carry an average of 12 hours coverage per day for both Games, including live and primetime coverage of every sport.

OMNI.1 and OMNI.2 will provide history-making multilingual coverage of the Winter and Summer Games via Over-the-Air Television. Available to over 5 million Canadian households and delivering programming in over 40 languages, the services will carry no less than 185 hours of coverage broken out as follows: 100 hours for 2010; 85 hours for 2012.
4. Commitment to Coverage on English, French and Multilingual Services

- From an English-language standpoint, Canadians will have more choice than ever before in terms of coverage across multiple broadcast platforms.

- Francophone Canadians will also enjoy unparalleled and extensive coverage. Quebec-based TQS can be seen by 95 per cent of francophone Canadians across Canada (including Quebec). And sports specialty RDS is available to all Francophones across Canada on satellite and cable and is distributed to 86 per cent of all Québec homes. Together, TQS, RDS and RIS Info Sports will deliver more hours of French-language coverage of the Games than ever before with 550 total hours in 2010 and 550 total hours in 2012.

- BGM-Rogers reconfirms it will make available francophone coverage at no charge to SRC Radio Canada in an effort to reach fully, 100 per cent of the French-language market. The offer mirrors the current deal between RDS and SRC Radio Canada as it relates to RDS’ French-language NHL coverage.

- In addition to English and French-language coverage, BGM-Rogers is committed to Canada’s ever-growing multi-cultural population who will be served, for the first time ever, thanks to the multilingual assets of the partnership.

- A complete breakdown of hours by language is as follows:

2010 Winter Games
2012 Summer Games
TOTAL

English
1,117
1,756
2,873

French
550
550
1,100

Multilingual
100
85
185

TOTAL
1,767
2,391
4,158

5. Specialty Channel Coverage
- Wall-to-wall coverage will be provided, in both English and French on TSN, the most watched English-language national sports service; RDS, Canada’s most watched French-language sports service; and Rogers Sportsnet, the most watched English-language regional sports service with four feeds available nationwide to all Canadians. Additional coverage will be provided on Outdoor Life Network (OLN) and RIS Info Sports guaranteeing more hours of live coverage, more hours of prime time coverage and more hours of total event coverage than ever before.

- Below is a breakout of the total hours in Specialty, service-by-service, followed by a summary for each:
Olympic Coverage – Total Hours on Specialty

Service
2010 Winter Games
2012 Summer Games
TOTAL

TSN
304
304
608

RDS
304
304
608

Rogers Sportsnet
378
903
1,281

RIS Info Sports
45
45
90

OLN
83
197
280

TOTAL
1,114
1,753
2,867

- TSN’s coverage of the 2010 Winter Games will be predominantly live. For the 2012 Summer Games, TSN will, on average, provide 11 hours of live coverage per day and an additional 8 hours of coverage per day on tape delay.

- RDS will provide coverage for a wide range of sports, with an emphasis on sports/athletes of particular interest to Francophone Canada. RDS’ coverage of the 2010 Winter Games will be predominantly live. For 2012, RDS would, on average, provide 13.5 hours of live coverage per day plus an additional 5.5 hours per day on tape delay.

- Rogers Sportsnet: (RSN): For the Vancouver Games, RSN will work in concert with TSN to provide “wall-to-wall” events coverage. In 2012, with the larger summer competition schedule, RSN’s multiple national feeds will be deployed in an innovative manner, maximizing exposure for the many high-profile sports and to expand the overall sports offering for viewers.

- RIS Info Sports is the only French-language sports highlights, news and information network available 24/7. RIS will provide 15-minute Olympic updates every hour for both the Games. In addition, RIS will provide 45 hours of live event coverage during both the Winter and the Summer Games.

- In 2010, OLN will feature 38 hours of live daytime coverage of sports that fit its adventure-based programming focus, such as Nordic skiing. During the Summer Games, OLN will devote much of its coverage to beach volleyball, providing over 100 hours of live match coverage. For both Games, OLN will offer prime time recaps of various events consistent with its mandate.

6. Coverage on Radio
With an array of 46 radio stations across Canada, listeners will enjoy extensive radio coverage of the Games on Rogers’ local radio stations with dedicated news and Olympic updates averaging 2.5 hours per day during the Winter Games and one hour during the Summer Games.

During the Winter Games, programming on 7 stations along the Vancouver-Whistler corridor will become totally Olympic-focused. For example, British Columbia’s leading news and information radio station, News 1130, will tailor its 24 hour a day programming to have an ongoing Olympic flavour, including specific Games updates every 30 minutes. This will include event coverage and results, athlete interviews and profiles, local Olympic information and features capturing the Winter Games atmosphere throughout the Lower Mainland region.

It’s our intention to also make our Games coverage available on radio in French and other languages of importance to Canadians.

7. Commitment to Amateur Sports
Working towards the 2010 Winter Games and the 2012 Summer Games, amateur sport coverage will increase by 50 per cent across the BGM-Rogers properties. Part and parcel with that commitment is the combination of prime-time exposure and comprehensive coverage of a broader number of Olympic sports.

Currently, the BGM-Rogers broadcast partnership delivers twice as many total hours of amateur sports coverage in French and English than any other broadcaster, including the public broadcaster. Moreover, a significant portion of this coverage is presented live and fully 60 per cent is in prime time. BGM-Rogers have invested in, among others, women’s and men’s hockey, women’s and men’s soccer, women’s and men’s curling, figure skating and cycling, resulting in a tremendous increase in awareness of these sports and their athletes.

8. Surround Programming
The extensive plan as outlined above represents the bare minimum coverage and commitment of the 2010 and 2012 Games by the BGM-Rogers partnership. Coverage of the Olympics will be shown on the aforementioned platforms, plus the following: Discovery Channel, CTV Newsnet, Report on Business Television and The Biography Channel. Viewers can expect Olympic-themed specials, documentaries, news serials, and other projects during, before and after the Olympic Games. It is our goal to help grow the profile of Canada’s sport federations and amateur athletes while keeping the Olympic experience alive for all Canadians alike.





I think that's a pretty good deal for the IOC and all Canadians for the 2010 Games. The only thing I'm worried about is that we may be bombarded with tons of ads and commercials....how will they profit from this?

[mr.x]

Cities that are capable to host the Summer Games today:
- Montreal
- Toronto

Near-future capable Summer Olympic host:
- Vancouver (sometime between 2020 and 2025)

Winter Games capable host:
- Vancouver
- Calgary
- Quebec City
- Montreal
- Kelowna
- Banff
- Revelstoke

[MonkeyRonin]

Cities that are capable to host the Summer Games today:
- Montreal
- Toronto

Near-future capable Summer Olympic host:
- Vancouver (sometime between 2020 and 2025)

Winter Games capable host:
- Vancouver
- Calgary
- Quebec City
- Montreal
- Kelowna
- Banff
- Revelstoke

Theres no way any city could host two Olympic games 10-15 years apart, let alone a city the size of Vancouver.

Also, for Banff, it would not host its own Olympics as it is abour 30-40 minutes from Calgary. Weren't some of the '88 events in Banff?

[mr.x]

Theres no way any city could host two Olympic games 10-15 years apart, let alone a city the size of Vancouver.

Also, for Banff, it would not host its own Olympics as it is abour 30-40 minutes from Calgary. Weren't some of the '88 events in Banff?

I wasn't talking about actually winning the Olympics, I was talking about Vancouver being technically able (infrastructure, venues, etc.) to host the Summer Games sometime between 2020-2025.

Obviously, Vancouver wouldn't win a Summer Games just 10-15 years after hosting the Games.

[MonkeyRonin]

I wasn't talking about actually winning the Olympics, I was talking about Vancouver being technically able (infrastructure, venues, etc.) to host the Summer Games sometime between 2020-2025.

Obviously, Vancouver wouldn't win a Summer Games just 10-15 years after hosting the Games.

Well in that case Vancouver could, more or less, host the games right now. In fact, I though it'd be a much better summer candidate than winter, but thats besides the point..

[Brokenhead]

I personally think Canada will be better off not hosting any Olympics games, now I think about it.

It costs billions of dollars, and what do we get out of it. Tourism, venues..?

The host city eventually gets forgotton by the world in time.

[mr.x]

I personally think Canada will be better off not hosting any Olympics games, now I think about it.

It costs billions of dollars, and what do we get out of it. Tourism, venues..?

The host city eventually gets forgotton by the world in time.

You get billions and billions of dollars worth of infrastructure. Vancouver 2010 was a catalyst for many non-Olympic projects, though all of these projects will be built by 2010: $700 million convention centre, $2.1 billion Canada Line, $700 million Sea-to-Sky Highway improvement and hundreds and hundreds of millions more for other infrastructure projects.

Yes, tourism as well. Since the Olympics, Torino has seen a huge spike in tourism. So did Sydney, until 9/11. Only exception was Salt Lake and Athens - one was under the shadow of 9/11 and the other under the shadow of the world media's hype on security and whether or not the Greeks would be ready.

Right now, the Olympics are really helping pushing the BC economy up and through the roof. We're so far up above the house you can't even see us now.

[Taller Better]

You get billions and billions of dollars worth of infrastructure. Vancouver 2010 was a catalyst for many non-Olympic projects, though all of these projects will be built by 2010: $700 million convention centre, $2.1 billion Canada Line, $700 million Sea-to-Sky Highway improvement and hundreds and hundreds of millions more for other infrastructure projects.

Yes, tourism as well. Since the Olympics, Torino has seen a huge spike in tourism. So did Sydney, until 9/11. Only exception was Salt Lake and Athens - one was under the shadow of 9/11 and the other under the shadow of the world media's hype on security and whether or not the Greeks would be ready.

Right now, the Olympics are really helping pushing the BC economy up and through the roof. We're so far up above the house you can't even see us now.

What you have said is so true, but I am always amazed at the number of people out there who don't "get it", why these games really help a city.

[Brokenhead]

What you have said is so true, but I am always amazed at the number of people out there who don't "get it", why these games really help a city.


It helps a city. What about rest of the country? Where does all this money come from? How many tourists will be interested in rest of the country after spending tons going to Vancouver?

How many people here actually visit an city the held an olympics 'after' the games? Salt Lake City is probably the only one exception.

[Taller Better]

The moment a city is granted the Summer Games ( I don't know about the less important Winter Games), well over one billion dollars US is dumped in the city automatically, from the huge Olympic fund. TV stations around the world vie for rights to televise the games. Money is made from the sale of souvenirs, and tickets to the events. These games are huge and they generate income. Having the Olympics will not turn Salt Lake City into Paris. You still have to have a decent city for people to travel to after the games end. Does that make sense, Brokenhead? Winnipeg once benefited greatly by hosting the Pan Am Games.. that would never have happened if people in the rest of the country could not have been generous spirited enough to realize that things can occur in other cities than the one they live in! :)

[Surrealplaces]

It helps a city. What about rest of the country? Where does all this money come from? How many tourists will be interested in rest of the country after spending tons going to Vancouver?

How many people here actually visit an city the held an olympics 'after' the games? Salt Lake City is probably the only one exception.

People do visit a city after the olympics, but not in large amounts. Here in Calgary I ran across many people visiting the city after the Olympics. Mostly the year or two after the Olympics.

The first Stampede after the Olympics saw attendance jump from around 1 million to 1.2 Million. I met people who came to the Stampede after seeing Calgary in the olympics, or they were here for the olympics and came back for a visit.

[Surrealplaces]

I think Toronto should be the next Canadian city to host the Olympics, maybe in 2020 summer olympics or something like that.

[mr.x]

It helps a city. What about rest of the country? Where does all this money come from? How many tourists will be interested in rest of the country after spending tons going to Vancouver?

How many people here actually visit an city the held an olympics 'after' the games? Salt Lake City is probably the only one exception.

Organizing Committee for the Vancouver Olympic & Paralympic Winter Games in 2010 Budget

Private funds
- IOC Television Rights: $500-600 million estimated
- The Olympic Partner: unknown at this point
- Domestic Sponsorship Program: $725 million
- Lotteries, licensing, coin program, etc: $100 million
- Ticketing: $300 million

Public funds:
- Government of Canada: $495 million
- Province of British Columbia: $512 million
- City of Vancouver: about $40 million

[mr.x]

The moment a city is granted the Summer Games ( I don't know about the less important Winter Games), well over one billion dollars US is dumped in the city automatically, from the huge Olympic fund. TV stations around the world vie for rights to televise the games. Money is made from the sale of souvenirs, and tickets to the events. These games are huge and they generate income. Having the Olympics will not turn Salt Lake City into Paris. You still have to have a decent city for people to travel to after the games end. Does that make sense, Brokenhead? Perhaps if Winnipeg were a city that was potentially in the running for an Olympics, then it might not seem like such a negative idea to you....

Yes, CTV Globemedia and Rogers payed $151 million for the rights to broadcast 2010 and 2012; that's up from the $90 million CBC spent on 2004 and 2006. NBC has payed US$3 billion to the IOC to broadcast the 2010 and 2012 Games and around the world, tv rights contracts have gone up by 40%. That means VANOC will also get a 40% increase over what the organizers of Torino got, and it'll be between $500-600 million.

VANOC has been very successful in getting domestic sponsorships. The original estimate was $400 million, but they have now exceeded $600 million and are aiming for $725 million. Ticket sales will also be huge....much bigger than any previous Winter Games with over 1.8 million tickets to be sold. Huge revenue there as well.



Having the city's name advertised around the world is priceless.

[Brokenhead]

The moment a city is granted the Summer Games ( I don't know about the less important Winter Games), well over one billion dollars US is dumped in the city automatically, from the huge Olympic fund. TV stations around the world vie for rights to televise the games. Money is made from the sale of souvenirs, and tickets to the events. These games are huge and they generate income. Having the Olympics will not turn Salt Lake City into Paris. You still have to have a decent city for people to travel to after the games end. Does that make sense, Brokenhead? Perhaps if Winnipeg were a city that was potentially in the running for an Olympics, then it might not seem like such a negative idea to you....


Winnipeg would never likely hold the olympic games. That's why I said "ahh, dreams." on a post while back.

B.C. is either way, it'll make profit like Calgary did, or go into debt like Montreal. To earlier to truly tell, but I think (hope) B.C. is a success, should be with the large tickets sales to be sold. My worries is about rest of the country. Vancouver is in the spotlight, while rest of Canada is in shadows. But it is Vancouver's moment to the world.

Let's just stop this arguing.:tup:

[mr.x]

I think Toronto should be the next Canadian city to host the Olympics, maybe in 2020 summer olympics or something like that.

I think Toronto should've gotten 1996 or 2008....they had one of the best technical bids in Olympic history with the waterfront plan.

I would think Toronto would have a good chance to host sometime in the 2020s.

[mr.x]

Winnipeg would never likely hold the olympic games. That's why I said "ahh, dreams." on a post while back.

B.C. is either way, it'll make profit like Calgary did, or go into debt like Montreal. To earlier to truly tell, but I think (hope) B.C. is a success. My worries is about rest of the country. Vancouver is in the spotlight, while rest of Canada is in shadows. But it is Vancouver's moment to the world.

Let's just stop this arguing.:tup:

Well, Winnipeg doesn't have the resources nor the infrastructure to host the Olympics.

Vancouver 2010 is nowhere near going into debt....we may go into a slight deficit, but that will be it. Vancouver 2010 is doing an incredible job compared to the past Games in Torino and Athens.....for example, TOROC nearly declared bankruptcy but the Italian government prevented that by giving the committee about CAN$90 million, after about CAN$400 million in public funding increases, and they had several venues that were a year behind schedule......and we all know what happened in Athens.

We're way ahead of schedule on many fronts. All venues will be completed two years before the Games - unlike Torino, Athens, or even Salt Lake City and Sydney. We already have one venue completed and it's the earliest completion in Winter Games history.

VANOC's plea for more government funding, $110 million, is miniscule to what other past hosts have required. ATHOC needed billions, and Torino, Salt Lake, and even Sydney needed hundreds and hundreds of million.



Also, these aren't just Vancouver's Games or British Columbia's Games. These are also heavily marketed as "Canada's Games" if you haven't already noticed. Everything VANOC has done so far has screamed out "Canada's Games". Look at the logo as an example and why we didn't choose a more local symbol instead. Also look at how VANOC is trying to get our athletes to do our best in 2010 (about $40 million of VANOC's spending is towards getting athletes to the podium). Also look at the end of the Torino handover ceremony, there was a 30 second clip showing skylines and images of Canada from east to west.....we could've just shown local images but we didn't.

[Brokenhead]

Okay, I give in.

It's Canada's games. Canada's moment.

Hope Vancouver can show off what Canada really is.

Vancouver is coming up to be one of the best olympics ever. We can see it already, and it's still 3 years away.

I hope Canada gets into 1st or 2nd place in medals (hopefully 1st).

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Back to topic:

I would like to see Toronto to hold the next olympics that come to Canada.
Should be a really impressive city in the 2020's or so on!!

[mr.x]

Okay, I give in.

It's Canada's games. Canada's moment.

Hope Vancouver can show off what Canada really is.

Vancouver is coming up to be one of the best olympics ever. We can see it already, and it's still 3 years away.

I hope Canada gets into 1st or 2nd place in medals (hopefully 1st).

That's the spirit! :cheers: :tup:

[malek]

There's no marketing campaign a city can buy that gives even 1% of the exposure a city gets for the orgy that lasts 2 weeks and the legacy it leaves for decades after.

[Taller Better]

Yes... it is important in intangible ways that myopic people can't envision... it places the city in the minds of people all over the world, and sometimes can even attract investment and new business as well as future tourism. It is all about raising the profile of the city, and by definition, the country.

[SHOFEAR]

There's no marketing campaign a city can buy that gives even 1% of the exposure a city gets for the orgy that lasts 2 weeks and the legacy it leaves for decades after.


It stuns me that people fail to grasp that concept. Even applied to public funding when it comes to arena's and such....the exposure is far bigger than years of marketing.

[ReginaGuy]

I think they should go to Churchill, Manitoba

[LordMandeep]

i am worried if Toronto gets the olympics the federal govt won't fund it properly.

[cornholio]

Vancouver actualy made a bid for the summer games before and in the 90's they made a decision between biding for the summer games or the winter games. Obviously they bid wor the winter games as we all know. Anyways Vancouver is fully capabel of hosting the summer games plus IOC has mentioned that it wants to downgrade the summer games which would alow more cities to bid for them, not just Moscow, London, Bejing, New York,Madrid, Paris etc.

Cool thing though will be that Vancouver will have a decent chance at being the first city to host both summer and winter games at some point in the future, probably many decades away, but having a title as that would be priceless.

Anyways I think Toronto will host the summer games in the 20's and seems like Quebec has a chance at future winter games but i realy hope the federal goverment stays away from that posibel mess, no offence to anyone.

[mr.x]

Vancouver actualy made a bid for the summer games before and in the 90's they made a decision between biding for the summer games or the winter games. Obviously they bid wor the winter games as we all know. Anyways Vancouver is fully capabel of hosting the summer games plus IOC has mentioned that it wants to downgrade the summer games which would alow more cities to bid for them, not just Moscow, London, Bejing, New York,Madrid, Paris etc.

Cool thing though will be that Vancouver will have a decent chance at being the first city to host both summer and winter games at some point in the future, probably many decades away, but having a title as that would be priceless.

Anyways I think Toronto will host the summer games in the 20's and seems like Quebec has a chance at future winter games but i realy hope the federal goverment stays away from that posibel mess, no offence to anyone.

Same thoughts as well.

Vancouver originally wanted to bid for the 2008 Summer Games, but Toronto was the COC's favourite so instead, Vancouver went for the 2010 Winter Games and then beated Quebec City and Calgary.

COC Votes
- Vancouver 26
- Quebec City 25
- Calgary 12

[malek]

Same thoughts as well.

Vancouver originally wanted to bid for the 2008 Summer Games, but Toronto was the COC's favourite so instead, Vancouver went for the 2010 Winter Games and then beated Quebec City and Calgary.

COC Votes
- Vancouver 26
- Quebec City 25
- Calgary 12

that was close!! :)

[GoflamesGo]

Damit! we could have hosted them again.

[CorporateWhore]

I don't want the Olympics, I'd much rather a world fair.

meh, maybe if this was 1907.

I'd rather have the World Cup.

[MolsonExport]

There's no marketing campaign a city can buy that gives even 1% of the exposure a city gets for the orgy that lasts 2 weeks and the legacy it leaves for decades after.

Yeah, take Sarajevo for example.