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MNdude
02-12-2007, 02:43 AM
Fueled by growth and the desire for productivity, corporate campuses are popping up around the Twin Cities area.

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Medtronic’s new Mounds View campus for its cardiac rhythm disease management division will open in the fall.



By Susan Feyder, Star Tribune
Last update: February 11, 2007 – 4:14 PM

For years, the company campus was thought to be a candidate for the endangered-species list, the victim of downsizing and technological advances that allowed more people to work from home or smaller, satellite offices.

But huge corporate complexes haven't gone away. If anything, they're staging something of a comeback as companies rediscover the advantages of bringing large numbers of employees together in unified settings. Companies also are finding that large developments stand a better chance of getting public financial assistance, such as tax-increment financing, because of their scale and promised benefits to local economies.

Last month's announcement by Thomson Corp. that it plans a $100 million expansion of its Thomson West offices in Eagan was the latest in a series of ambitious office complex projects underway or on the drawing boards in the Twin Cities area. Others include Medtronic's new facilities in Mounds View for its cardiac rhythm management division, UnitedHealth Group's expansion of its Minnetonka headquarters and Cargill's move to occupy two -- and possibly all three -- buildings in Excelsior Crossings, a $130 million office complex in Hopkins.

Target last fall completed an expansion of its corporate campus in Brooklyn Park, where it has about 1,400 employees. Its long-term plans envision a virtual corporate city on 334 acres in Brooklyn Park with 8 million square feet of offices, 2 million square feet of retail and commercial space and 3,000 housing units.

Companies' interest in developing corporate campuses is "a combination of economics, corporate culture and image," said Tim Murnane, Opus Northwest senior vice president. The Minnetonka-based developer's current projects include the new offices for UnitedHealth, Cargill and Medtronic's cardiac business.

One of Opus' largest projects was the Best Buy corporate campus in Richfield, a four-building complex that opened in 2003 and brought together about 5,000 employees previously scattered in about a dozen offices.

"The idea was to keep people together and not lose the connectivity," Murnane said of that development. One of its more unusual features is the Hub, a 215,000-square-foot space linking the office towers and encouraging "casual collisions" of employees to share ideas and foster creativity, he said.

The design of Medtronic's Mounds View facilities also aims to encourage interaction, said Steve Mahle, a Medtronic vice president and president of the cardiac rhythm management division. The project's three towers will be linked with a seven-story area that will provide conference areas as well as walkways.

The Medtronic campus also will have a bank, fitness center, child-care facilities, food service and service retail. "Many of these amenities can only be supported with a large-enough employee population," Mahle said.

Mahle said Medtronic expects to spend about $200 million over the next five years developing the Mounds View site. Initially about 3,500 scientists, engineers and other workers will move to the complex when the buildings under construction are completed this fall. Most will transfer from Fridley, but others will come from facilities in Arden Hills, Shoreview and Bloomington. A later phase is planned for 2012.

"Knowledge workers need to have the ability to interact," said Rich King, executive vice president and chief operating officer of Thomson West, a division of business and legal data publisher Thomson Corp. King said the campus also can make a favorable impression on prospective customers.

"They can see that we have all the infrastructure in place," he said.

Thomson West's expansion, which includes a 425,000-square-foot office building and 80,000-square-foot data center, would add about 2,000 employees to its workforce in Eagan, about 1,100 new workers and about 900 transferred from offices outside Minnesota.

A corporate campus "can be very valuable when it comes to recruiting and retaining employees," said Collin Barr, president of the Minnesota region of Ryan Companies. Ryan's large-scale office developments include Target Corporation's Minneapolis headquarters, which houses most of its 8,000 downtown employees. Barr said the amenities typically found on corporate campuses, such as banks, dry cleaners and child care facilities, can contribute to productivity by reducing the need for employees to leave work for errands.

Rich Varda, Target vice president of store design, said having large numbers of employees at a central location cuts down on travel time when different departments need to meet. "A certain amount of things you can do by phone or e-mail, but sometimes you really have to be in rooms talking face to face," he said.

Varda said there is no set timetable for expanding the Brooklyn Park campus. But the long-term goal is to create a complex that replicates the environment and services downtown Target workers have, including proximity to housing and retail, he said.

Cargill also is seeking to provide a work environment similar to its Minnetonka headquarters at Excelsior Crossings, where it will relocate employees now at four office buildings elsewhere in Minnetonka, said John McCabe, vice president and manager of the company's office services department.

McCabe said employee surveys revealed that workers at the other locations didn't feel like they belonged to the company. Another plus, he said, was the cost-effectiveness of providing employee food services and other amenities at fewer locations.

Cargill chose Excelsior Crossings because it is close to its headquarters and because the new buildings will be finished about the time leases expire at the buildings it will vacate. Although it has agreed to occupy two buildings, McCabe said Cargill is negotiating with Opus to occupy all three towers at the development.

Besides developing corporate campuses for other companies, Opus will do some work at its own headquarters in Minnetonka beginning this summer, Murnane said. The goal will be to expand, move workers from an Edina office and link the new offices with existing buildings at the Minnetonka site with skyways.

Murnane said the project is expected to be completed in March 2008.

"We're looking forward to pulling our people together and practicing what we preach," he said.

Susan Feyder • 612-673-1723 • sfeyder@startribune.com

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WonderlandPark
02-12-2007, 03:59 AM
Too bad Target seems to have abandoned its center MPLS office strategy? Another anonymous office park with a few logos attached, bleh.

Chicago103
02-16-2007, 01:56 AM
Suburban corporate campuses represent the de-humanizing of corporate america. I want to work in a vibrant urban environment, suburban office parks make me feel like a borg drone.

b-s
02-16-2007, 02:12 AM
^ It makes me angry just thinking about it.

miketoronto
02-16-2007, 02:18 PM
Suburban office development is the worst, and the number one reason for sprawl.

If there is anything that planners must put a stop to, its the office park.

I am even more anti office park then ever, after working for the transit system, because everyday I have to try and map out routes for people to get to these stupid office parks. And beleive me its hard.

Of course I often get asked the question "why can't they just locate this place downtown" :)
I have to say I agree.

Suburban office parks are the number one reason for decreased transit use, more traffic, cars, and people moving further out.

Chicago103 I totally agree with you. However sometimes downtown can be to fun :) Toronto did a study to find out why some companies would move out of downtown or not move in the first place. And one of the main issues companies said they might consider moving out of downtown is that "their workers enjoy working downtown to much", meaning that their downtown emplyers will actually take breaks and stuff, where their suburban workers often will work without taking as many breaks, because there is nothing to do out in the burbs :)

Amanita
02-16-2007, 02:24 PM
These office parks do nothing but encourage sprawl and car dependancy. I would sooner work downtown any day of the week, if I were working an office job. At least there, there's lots of places to get food, or just chill out. Out in the burbs, there's nothing.

Marcu
02-16-2007, 04:02 PM
Suburban corporate campuses represent the de-humanizing of corporate america. I want to work in a vibrant urban environment, suburban office parks make me feel like a borg drone.

Have you ever worked at a big city law firm or accounting firm? Most of those are in super-prestigious downtown highrises and I can honestly say there is nothing more dehumanizing. Those 80-90 hour work weeks make the surrounding environment completely irrelevant.

shane453
02-16-2007, 04:33 PM
In north OKC, a few miles from downtown, pretty trendy semi-urban area, a very quickly growing natural gas company called Chesapeake is building a campus, and literally cannibalizing the area. At first they really did a lot, revitilizing the area and cleaning things up, but now people are worried that their university-style architecture will cover the entire neighborhood if the company keeps growing. They are paying super high prices for retail centers and other properties in all directions and are constantly building and buying real estate.

It's been nicknamed "Chesapeake City" and the company is even planning on building apartments and condos on the campus, putting retail spaces on the first floors of buildings. It's getting urban. It's really kind of pretty. Of course, it's hard not to be upset that the 800,000 sf of offices they are building didn't go into an office tower or two to add to the downtown skyline.

The theory they have cited about their campus is that they want the corporate structure to feel more like a neighborhood or community, where there is no executive floor 50 stories up that intimidates people and makes them afraid to go say what they want to say to the boss.

This came from the local paper, you can really see how much room they have to expand, and they're converting a lot of surface lots into new buildings:

http://olive.newsok.com/Repository/getimage.dll?path=DOK/2006/08/16/1/Img/Pc0011400.jpg

b-s
02-16-2007, 04:59 PM
Have you ever worked at a big city law firm or accounting firm? Most of those are in super-prestigious downtown highrises and I can honestly say there is nothing more dehumanizing. Those 80-90 hour work weeks make the surrounding environment completely irrelevant.

Most people don't work in a "big city law firm or accounting firm" with "80-90 hour work weeks make the surrounding environment completely irrelevant" so what's your point?

The people who don't have that type of job STILL should be subjected to working in god awful office parks in the middle of cornfields or neatly tucked between a Costco and an automobile-turned-monster-truck dealership?

Marcu
02-16-2007, 05:38 PM
Most people don't work in a "big city law firm or accounting firm" with "80-90 hour work weeks make the surrounding environment completely irrelevant" so what's your point?

The people who don't have that type of job STILL should be subjected to working in god awful office parks in the middle of cornfields or neatly tucked between a Costco and an automobile-turned-monster-truck dealership?

Just saying that in a lot of cases the suburban office park is a reaction to the perceived "dehumanizing massive skyscraper office building", such as with Chesapeake above where management does not want to be 50 stories above others. In some cases companies move to the 'burbs to be closer to its employee base as well. I know it's hard to believe but most American cities now have anywhere from 60 to 90% of their population in the suburbs.

And the "big city law firms and accounting firms" are actually where most downtown employees work (that and government). Those are the biggest downtown employers, at least in NY, DC, and Chicago.

arbeiter
02-18-2007, 03:24 AM
There are dehumanizing buildings of all types. For example, there are plenty of suburban skyscrapers in Houston surrounded by parking garages, fields, and Dave and Busters buildings.

nath05
02-18-2007, 03:59 AM
I interviewed at a corporate campus type place once...actually at the Opus Corp which is quoted in the story....and I couldn't imagine working there. It's just so bland compared to downtown, and there's absolutely no way you can get errands done during lunch or any of that convenient stuff.

When the HR guy was giving me the tour of the complex and showing me the cafeteria and the coffee shop and the gym and all that crap, he gushed "there's so much stuff here you'll never want to leave!" All I could think was "but I want to leave. That's the point of work"

The corporate campus sucks.

Owlhorn
02-18-2007, 04:56 AM
Just saying that in a lot of cases the suburban office park is a reaction to the perceived "dehumanizing massive skyscraper office building", such as with Chesapeake above where management does not want to be 50 stories above others. In some cases companies move to the 'burbs to be closer to its employee base as well. I know it's hard to believe but most American cities now have anywhere from 60 to 90% of their population in the suburbs.

And the "big city law firms and accounting firms" are actually where most downtown employees work (that and government). Those are the biggest downtown employers, at least in NY, DC, and Chicago.

I don't think you're getting the gist of the thread. :sly:

Chicago103
02-21-2007, 01:29 AM
Have you ever worked at a big city law firm or accounting firm? Most of those are in super-prestigious downtown highrises and I can honestly say there is nothing more dehumanizing. Those 80-90 hour work weeks make the surrounding environment completely irrelevant.

I never claimed that the nature of the job had no impact but I am just saying that if had two jobs that are similar in nature the one that is downtown would have a higher rate of job satisfaction due to the built environment.

@MikeToronto: It may be true that employees can get distracted downtown because there is so much to do and it can be "fun" but at the same time being in an environment where you can escape the work environment during your breaks could actually increase work productivity when they are actually in the office. In my case simply walking five minutes to get coffee I leave the work environment and enter the dynamic streetscape of downtown Chicago. It also helps to hear street noises inside your office and see an urban environment out the nearest window, it makes you feel like you are a part of something greater than your immediate work task.

In a suburban office park it has the feeling of an isolated dehumanizing abyss where there is nothing but work and work sucks and there is no escape. When you go on break you are either forced to stay at the cafeteria in the building or you have to drive in an anti-pedestrian environment where you dont see other people, just metal shells (cars) with people in them and all you have to go to are often mass produced chain restarurants surrounded by parking lagoons replicated ad-infenitum. Thats why I find such suburban environments to be just like the borg collective, there is no individuality you are just a drone going about your boring pathetic existence and there is nothing to look forward to besides more work, the retirement home and death. Factories of the 19th Century might have been physically dehumanizing but the auto-centric suburban office park is the pshychologically deuhumanizing workplaces of the early 21st Century.

miketoronto
02-21-2007, 03:18 AM
Totally agree with you Chicago103. Infact we just got a new employee in my office, and he was sitting with me the other day. He was telling me how he worked in a bank office before, and how the bank had decided to leave downtown Toronto for the suburbs, and that himself and most of the other workers quit, because they did not want to work in the suburbs. So basically they have to find new workers now, because no one wanted to work in the burbs :)



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