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Alta California
02-13-2007, 07:52 AM
From the looks of it, resistance to toll roads in CA are fading fast. Arnie, the Feds, and Democrats are lining up install tollbooths across the state. I think it's about time. Iffy on NEW tollroads, but tollbooths on existing ones should suffice and keep the state moving.


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Calif.’s future may be paved with fees
Voter-approved bonds won’t bankroll all new roads. Up ahead: public and private tollways.
By Evan Halper
Times Staff Writer

7:53 PM PST, February 12, 2007

SACRAMENTO — In California, birthplace of the freeway, where motorists can traverse all but a small fraction of the state without encountering a tollbooth, the free ride may be coming to an end.

There is emerging consensus in the Capitol that the state should follow the path already blazed elsewhere and look to tollways — public and private — to help bankroll new roads.

Local and state transportation agencies are already planning several such projects on busy urban corridors, and some of the world's largest investment firms are lining up with proposals that could leave them in control of some major new roads.

Voters last November approved billions in borrowing for roads, but that was only a start; the money won't meet all the state's transportation needs and never was intended to. Nor would anything short of a major increase in the gas tax — one for which voters appear to have no appetite. That leaves tolls.

"The existing way of paying for these projects is not going to work," said Senate Transportation Committee Chairman Alan Lowenthal (D-Long Beach). "We're used to free roads and everything being free. That is a 1950s model. If we want to move forward, we are going to have to head in a different direction."

Under pressure from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has been pushing for the state to start shifting the cost — and some control — of road building to the private sector, lawmakers last May authorized government agencies to build four demonstration projects in partnership with investment banks, shipping companies and other businesses.

The companies would put up money for the projects, and in return could end up owning a share of them. Or at least be guaranteed some of the revenues they generate.

The Legislature has yet to sign off on what roads would be built under the arrangement, but has stipulated that they must serve the movement of goods. The California Department of Transportation is already suggesting a toll road for trucks that would go from the Port of Long Beach to the Inland Empire, and a toll road for cars and trucks at the Mexican border near San Diego that would have its own border crossing.

State and local transportation planners have joined with the governor's office to lobby lawmakers for authority to broker more deals with private companies.

"This should only be a beginning," Mark Pisano, executive director of the Southern California Assn. of Governments, said of the projects approved in May. At a recent legislative hearing, Pisano told lawmakers that his organization wants to work with private companies to build a controversial 8-mile tunnel that would link the 710 Freeway to Pasadena, a project estimated to cost at least $2 billion.

Federal transportation officials are cheering these planners on.

"This is the next step," said Tyler Duvall, assistant secretary for transportation policy at the U.S. Department of Transportation. He flew to Sacramento from Washington last month to urge legislators to build more toll roads, preferably in partnership with the private sector.

"Every single private investor cites California as the dream place to invest," he said.

Currently, the state has 82 miles of toll roads — the first of which opened in 1993 in southern Orange County — and drivers make about 590,000 trips on them daily. Tolls vary by route and time of day.

A short hop on the 73 Freeway can cost as little as 50 cents. A one-way trip on the 10-mile-long 91 Express Lanes at rush hour can come to $9.25.

The American Automobile Assn. in California, which has more than 6 million members, does not oppose tolls on new roads. But many drivers do.

"The lifestyle we have in this state is the result of our freeways," said Pete Van Nuys, a San Clemente salesman who says he drives up to 60,000 miles a year. "If I have a small business, I should be able to drive and deliver goods and services without having to pay onerous tolls."

Some taxpayer groups say the state should make better use of existing resources.

"We shouldn't have to resort to toll roads," said Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn. "There are a host of studies showing we are simply not using our transportation dollars wisely. Before we dream up new ways to raise revenue, we should get smarter about how we use the money we have."



Democrats have long resisted private toll roads, pointing to problems that have arisen in the state's few experiments with private roadways. California, which once was a pioneer in public-private partnerships, soured on the idea after some high-profile missteps.

Example: In Orange County, to close a deal with a company called California Private Transportation, the state agreed not to make any improvements to public roads within a mile and a half of the company's toll lanes on the 91 Freeway. Congestion in the public lanes grew intolerable, and the state ultimately bought the toll lanes for $207 million.

Meanwhile, a private toll road long ago authorized and finally scheduled to open in San Diego County this summer has been beset by lawsuits and cost overruns. The project's final price tag — $683 million — is 70% higher than planners estimated.

The project initially called for the state to take control of the road after 35 years. Lawmakers last year scaled that back to 45 years so that the private company building it will be able to recoup its money by collecting tolls for an extra decade.

Officials in the governor's office say such setbacks are minor bumps in the road.

"We have learned a lot of lessons" from California's existing toll roads, said Sean Walsh, a senior policy advisor to the governor, "as have the rest of the country and the world."

But, he added, "people who keep going back and looking at them as an example of something that is wrong ignore the fact that it is a model now being used successfully around the world."

Indeed, several states are looking to private companies to take over their roads or build new ones. Indiana has turned over its 157-mile-long turnpike, known in the Midwest as the "Main Street of America," to a consortium of foreign investors. Illinois negotiated a similar deal with its Chicago Skyway. New Jersey and Pennsylvania are exploring similar deals with their famed turnpikes.

Texas, where virtually every major road currently being built will have tolls, is looking to the private sector to construct a 4,000-mile network of car and truck toll lanes that would feed into a port. The project, economists say, would position Texas to compete with California as the entry point for goods shipped from Asia, especially if the 710 Freeway continues to deteriorate.

In all, 21 states have passed laws encouraging public-private road-building partnerships. Many are making the move at the urging of the federal government, which provides financial incentives for involving the private sector.

California's Legislature has stopped short of giving local transportation agencies broad authority to cut deals with private road builders, as other states have. Some planning experts and economists are encouraging them to step things up.

"California is famous for the freeway, and it has been a great thing," said Joel Kotkin, an author of books on demographics and planning. "But it is from a time when the state had a lot of money coming in. We are in a different situation now. You have to start looking at these other options. The alternatives are gridlock or spending the state into bankruptcy."

Others caution that international investment firms are accountable to their shareholders, not the driving public. They say California should seek alternatives that don't give such companies too much control.

Regardless, drivers are eventually likely to be reaching for their wallets more often.

"New construction is going to have to be financed at least in part by tolls," said Lowenthal. "Who will control them is an open question."

evan.halper@latimes.com

Reminiscence
02-13-2007, 04:19 PM
Yeah, I dont agree with this idea either. Looks like another way to just keep funding roads only. The fact that the federal government supports the idea isnt exactly a motivator in my opinion. This could be a nightmare for people who cross two bay area bridges already. Imagine paying 5 dollars for each bridge, plus gas, plus this new toll. I think this would make a lot of people really upset.

northbay420
02-13-2007, 04:28 PM
^ interesting article. the only reason I dont agree with this is because the money DOES exist. how come the federal gov has $600 billion for the military budget (that doesn't even include iraq), but can't give its citizens a good road system? (or healthcare, education etc etc)

rs913
02-13-2007, 06:10 PM
Is there a legitimate argument here that more tollbooths will keep traffic manageable on the expanded freeways? (as opposed to the usual effect where widening the roads causes more people to drive?) Or is it more likely that the tolls just cause more of a burden on people who have to drive, without deterring those who have a choice?

bmfarley
02-15-2007, 07:41 AM
Is there a legitimate argument here that more tollbooths will keep traffic manageable on the expanded freeways? (as opposed to the usual effect where widening the roads causes more people to drive?) Or is it more likely that the tolls just cause more of a burden on people who have to drive, without deterring those who have a choice?Yes. But it is not about 'more toll booths' per se.

People often shift their driving habits due to congestion and the cost of driving or parking a car. The setup being discussed with the toll roads involves varied tolls depending on roadway congestion. Tolls will be higher during peak times. Using a toll road should be cheap on a Sunday night while it should be more expensive at 7am on Tuesday morning.

Alta California
02-15-2007, 05:11 PM
Yes. But it is not about 'more toll booths' per se.

People often shift their driving habits due to congestion and the cost of driving or parking a car. The setup being discussed with the toll roads involves varied tolls depending on roadway congestion. Tolls will be higher during peak times. Using a toll road should be cheap on a Sunday night while it should be more expensive at 7am on Tuesday morning.

Sounds like...congestion pricing! I would think because it's a step towards limiting automobile use that progressives would be all yay! about toll roads. The responses so far show the opposite.

DJM19
02-15-2007, 07:07 PM
As a progressive, I see tolls as a great method for reducing congestion, and it falls perfectly in line with the principles of economics. And there are benefits on multiple levels:

1. Gives freeways their own income, which can be used to improve freeways
2. The result of that frees up taxes normally spent on freeways to instead go to transit
3. Transit starts to look more appealing when you have to pay to use the roads.

I think where a true progressive would differ from a conservative person in favor of this, is that along with putting tolls in, you MUST put in the alternative: transit.

Buckeye Native 001
02-15-2007, 07:31 PM
Hell, some of the most scenic freeways in Orange County (the 73, 241, 133) are toll roads and have been for a while.

Reminiscence
02-15-2007, 09:07 PM
I really dont think tolls are the answer, at least not for some freeways in California, theres just too many cars. I would imagine tolls to be a good idea for roads that arent traveled as much as say, I-80 or US-101. Frankly, public transporation should be cheaper even without tolls on the road. I shouldnt have to wait until freeways are too expensive to be forced to use BART or other mass transit. If they really want people to use mass transit, they should lower the fares to make it more appealing. Funds always seem to be misused, which is why I sometimes think BART needs an system overhaul.

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