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DetroitMan
02-14-2007, 09:11 PM
http://www.mlive.com/business/grpress/index.ssf?/base/business-4/1171468088201350.xml&coll=6
New plan offered for Heartside condo tower
Wednesday, February 14, 2007
By Chris Knape
The Grand Rapids Press
http://www.mlive.com/cgi-bin/prxy/weblog_photos/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000;/mtlogs/mlive_knapescorner/images/240ionia.jpg
GRAND RAPIDS -- A 12-story condominium tower would rise from a blighted lot in downtown's Heartside Neighborhood under a new plan by a West Michigan development group.

The $14 million, 75-unit project at 240 Ionia Ave. SW is proposed for the same spot where a 10-story hotel-condo-office was announced but never started last year.

This time around, the design has been simplified to eliminate the hotel and offer more residential condos priced between $150,000 and $300,000, said architect Stephen Fry, president of Concept Design Group.

The prices would hit the lower end of the downtown condo market by trimming expensive amenities such as a swimming pool offered by other downtown projects.

The building's current plan calls for a third-floor balcony overlooking Heartside Park and a common room for residents.

"Basically, we're trying to create a contemporary condominium building that blends into the neighborhood," Fry said. "It isn't going to compete against the existing buildings in the neighborhood, but it has some historical references in the details of the building."

The 130-foot brick-and-glass building is to include 73 to 75 units, with several live-work spaces combining residences with space for a small business.

The building would rise on what is now a fenced-in vacant lot on the southeastern corner of Williams Street and Ionia.

Rhonda Saunders, the city's historic preservation specialist, said the design looks promising.

"I don't really see too many concerns," she said. "The only issue, and it may not even be one, is the height. The scale has to be compatible."

The project still is expected to qualify for Brownfield tax credits awarded by the state for the 10-story hotel-condo project last year. Those credits were expected to save developers $534,025.

The building would include 75 parking spaces in its lower, first and second floors. Retail space would occupy about 4,750 square feet on the ground floor.

Heartside Business Association has been supportive of the project, Fry said.

He believes a current chill in the downtown housing market is, in part, because much inventory is higher priced than what 240 Ionia would offer.

"Studies have shown there is a market from the $200,000 to $300,000 range, and that's really where our target is," Fry said.

Fry said the developers want to be part of the neighborhood's revitalization.

Over the past decade, that area of downtown has evolved from a low-income, high-crime area to an eclectic mix of hip bars, offices, shops and condos not far from low-income apartments and homeless shelters.

While developers hope to start construction in late fall, they need to sell half the units to get construction financing, Fry said.

Fry, who is not an investor in the project, was not able to disclose the name of those leading the project's development group, 240 Ionia Partners LLC.

The property still is owned by Fulton and Division LLC, the group that last year planned a project anchored by a hotel at Williams and Ionia.

That group had been led by former URS executive Todd Radashaw and attorney Michael Hidalgo. The LLC's name came from its inception as part of a failed effort to buy and redevelop the former City Centre parking ramp site at southwestern corner of Fulton and Division.

The 240 Ionia project is to be discussed at a Feb. 21 Historic Preservation Commission meeting. Developers are looking for conceptual approval from the group because the project is in the Heartside Historic District.

The developers will offer preconstruction reservations at this week's Grand Rapids Boat Show at DeVos Place.

Exodus
02-14-2007, 09:34 PM
Grand Rapids is really booming it seems:tup:

Michi
02-15-2007, 12:18 AM
Yet again, GR puts a smile on my face. I think the Saunders lady needs to think further into the future on this one. The height is perfect. It borders Heartside Park, which borders the S-Curve (if I'm not mistaken). If Grand Rapids achieves it's ambitions for downtown (density, TODs) then it's eventually going to start running out of room to grow. As a result, the only way after that is up.

So, while it may seem high right now, 12 stories seems to be the perfect height as downtown grows and matures. I'd bet that in the future, there will be taller buildings in and around Heartside.

pdxtex
02-15-2007, 07:34 AM
75 units is alot...nice to see GR doing well. looked great the last time i was there, summer 05'

LMich
02-15-2007, 07:40 AM
There is actually another serious 11-story low-rise/mid-rise building proposed not too far from, here. There is lots going on around this area.

http://www.mlive.com/cgi-bin/prxy/weblog_photos/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000;/mtlogs/mlive_knapescorner/images/240big.jpg

http://www.mlive.com/cgi-bin/prxy/weblog_photos/nph-cache.cgi/cache=3000;/mtlogs/mlive_knapescorner/images/240.jpg

A proposal was planned on this site last year, and died. But, it was a hotel/office mix, I believe. This is purely condo.

wolfram
02-15-2007, 10:09 PM
so...it's a generic box with tarted-up facades.

good thing in terms of the permanent population downtown, but it's dull and boring.

it's either too fat or too short. judging by the talent seen in the renderings, it's a shame that it can't remain a 'blighted lot' - something that sounds more interesting than this pile.

at least that's what i think.

LMich
02-16-2007, 12:32 AM
I see you're back, and what a predictable entrance. :) You're being far, far too critical.

UglymanCometh
02-16-2007, 02:13 AM
I see you're back, and what a predictable entrance. :) You're being far, far too critical.

Yeah, you tell him! That's my job! :D

I like it.... nothing too striking or imposing on the surrounding neighbourhood.

Way to go GR! You guys seem to be doing what the rest of Michigan (save for Troy *hold your laughter*) can't.....

Grow.

LMich
02-16-2007, 02:42 AM
Troy's not putting up any towers (residential or otherwise), and it's 'growth' according to both the Census and SEMOG is within a margin of error since 2000.

Michi
02-16-2007, 05:50 PM
Glass + brick = many buildings. There is nothing wrong with it. No one's asking for a Mona Lisa. A building like this can be found in any city. Now, it can be found in Grand Rapids. If you like you're cities blighted, there's a lot of it in Michigan that we'd love to give you for free.

UglymanCometh
02-16-2007, 09:59 PM
Troy's not putting up any towers (residential or otherwise), and it's 'growth' according to both the Census and SEMOG is within a margin of error since 2000.

I've been gone for so long that you can't even recognize my sarcasm?

I'm hurt. But that's okay. It's my fault.

I've got to upgrade you to the Sabraton v5.0 Office Edition.

wolfram
02-17-2007, 12:32 PM
Glass + brick = many buildings. There is nothing wrong with it.
i agree. there's nothing wrong with glass or brick, on their own or together. but my point here is that concept design group doesn't know how to work with either. as much as the building is a squat box, they've been uneasy with its form, and have decided to dress it up with vaguely art deco-esque brick elements running the height of the building which aim to trick the populace that it isn't a box... if concept design group didn't want a box, it didn't have to design one in the first place.

No one's asking for a Mona Lisa.
i'm not asking for the mona lisa. i'm just asking not for this.

A building like this can be found in any city. Now, it can be found in Grand Rapids.
don't advocate sameness, thats why most cities are crap! there's little difference between each other.

If you like you're cities blighted, there's a lot of it in Michigan that we'd love to give you for free.

michi, you've channeled my dream... i accept.

----

and on a side note, i feel i was missed.

Michi
02-17-2007, 06:08 PM
lol. Well, you know architecture better than I do. But as a planner, I have my ideas of what good design is. And being relatively familiar with Grand Rapids, I think this would be a good fit.

I guess we'll just have to accept e/o's differing opinions.

Also, I'm sure Grand Rapids will have many many more opportunities to set great examples in architecturally significant structures. I know they already are (especially in LEED design), and so I look forward to the larger projects building a legacy in its next generation of construction.

Exodus
02-23-2007, 10:35 AM
I like it. It's not the greatest building, but it's not bad looking.

-GR2NY-
02-23-2007, 01:25 PM
Given its location it will be a great addition when coming north on 131, along side a pre-existing 8-9 floor renovated condo building. At first glance I assumed this would be at the SW corner of division and fulton, we need to construct something there badly. I dont mind the facade when seen from the narrow angle and the tapering points on the south end mesh well with the neighborhood. Its interesting to be in michigan and have the people well aware that our downtown is booming. Just take a walk around or ask someone here and they'll tell you on two hands and a foot how many cranes are up and where, its exciting stuff. However the suburban people are still not coming downtown but once every few years and steps need to be taken to change that. Back on topic is the official name just '240 ionia' ?

On a sidenote we have 2 large cranes set high up at riverhouse now.



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