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Nutterbug
02-17-2007, 10:20 AM
Police believe fires at two houses in the Dunbar area were deliberately set

Jonathan Fowlie
Vancouver sun

Friday, February 16, 2007

VANCOUVER - Police say they believe fires at two Dunbar homes early Wednesday morning were the result of a targeted arson, adding they will be looking into a long-simmering neighbourhood dispute as part of the investigation.

"I do believe it is a targeted attack," Det. Rodger Shepard of the Vancouver police arson squad said Thursday.

The houses, still under construction at West 38th and Highbury, have been strongly opposed by some in the neighbourhood ever since developer Raj Nijjar began building them on two 25-foot-wide subdivided parcels of land.

Shepard said he believes the attack was specific to the houses, because other nearby construction sites were untouched.

"There are other homes in the neighbourhood that are being constructed that have suffered no problems whatsoever," he said, pointing out a site immediately adjacent to the damaged ones was untouched.

"I am pretty certain it is a targeted attack, not that we have an arsonist running around in the neighbourhood," he said.

Shepard said he is aware of the dispute over the subdivided lot, and will be looking into it as part of the investigation.

"There has been a fair amount of controversy so of course that is going to lead me to look into that aspect of it," he said.

Shepard said a private investigator at the scene of the fires found something of interest on Thursday and called police. Investigators returned to the scene and collected evidence.

The fires, and the possibility of a link to the subdivision, have also raised questions about how residents in neighbourhoods like Dunbar will react to the City of Vancouver's plans for densification.

Peter Sven, who strongly opposed the projects at 38th and Highbury, said Thursday he did not want to speak about the fire, but was willing to explain his opposition to the project.

"The shape of the houses were totally inappropriate for this neighbourhood," he said.

Sven said he would not oppose densification, as long as it only takes place along main arterials, as is set out in the Dunbar city plan.

Vancouver officials plan to hold an event today to explain to the media how eco-density will change neighbourhoods. Public consultations on the eco-density issue begin March 3.

The issue is also under discussion in North Vancouver.
© The Vancouver Sun 2007

Because some people's comfort and view from their large single family homes is sooo much more important than providing adequate housing for a growing population.

I'm glad to see the social pressures to densify is beginning to outweigh the political clout of these affluent and selfish west side bastards so much that they have to resort to these desperate measures.

hollywoodnorth
02-17-2007, 10:27 AM
Arrest All Nimby's!

queetz@home
02-17-2007, 11:36 AM
I'm glad to see the social pressures to densify is beginning to outweigh the political clout of these affluent and selfish west side bastards so much that they have to resort to these desperate measures.

YEAH!!!! THis is the best news I've ever heard from Vancouver in a while! Down with the Westside Vancouver creme de la creme! They have screwed us so much it is only proper that we must continue to encroach on their precious little hoods and densify them like crazy (and I mean Hong Kong like crazy) for the sake of us all! :tup:

SFUVancouver
02-18-2007, 03:01 AM
The argument that neighbourhoods cannot accept increased density without losing their character is total rubbish.

The Commercial Drive/Victoria Drive neighbourhood is older than the west side, especially the Dunbar area, and it is accepting increased density with great aplomb. There are many examples of aesthetically pleasing small-lot houses throughout the area, including my favourite example at the corner of East 2nd and Victoria where a single 66foot corner lot was subdivided into two lots, each built out with a craftsman style duplex. On a lot that once housed a single family there are four now, with children, and it didn't ruin the neighbourhood character one iota. In fact, the new houses that are being built on the East side are by-and-large a hell of a lot nicer than 9/10ths of those you find on the West side, especially around the MacDonald/16th/Dunbar/King Edward area.

Now if the new buildings are architecturally lousy then that is another thing. But it isn't densification that is the problem; it is spendthrift property owners that aren't interested in putting money into architecture.

marmorek
02-18-2007, 06:56 AM
We can only hope that this will decrease the credibility of all NIMBYs. :)

Boris2k7
02-18-2007, 07:07 AM
Get yer guns boys. This smells like a Declaration of War to me...

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3699/violentsmiley056rx8.gif

squeezied
02-18-2007, 07:08 AM
out of curiosity, what was the architectural design like? cuz quite frankly, i would be happy is if was one of those new ubiquitous McBland houses found everywhere on the eastside. however, since it's in dunbar, im assuming it's more architectually pleasing and complimentary to the neighbourhood.

agrant
02-18-2007, 07:40 AM
It's a big deal there I guess. Dunbar hasn't changed that much over the last 50 years. Getting the first duplexes/triplexes done will be the start of a trend. Dunbar could become a lot like Kits in a few decades, which isn't all that bad.

ProudlyCanadian
02-18-2007, 08:13 AM
I'm all for intelligent public debate as an essential part of any plan or development, but sometimes it feels that political debate is unattainable with such radical incoherent crowds.

People that take part in any radical action, such as arson, will only lose credibility in the eye of the larger public. The person or persons that took part in such action should be ashamed of themselves, as they've only weakend the position of the community in future debate.

SpongeG
02-18-2007, 08:33 AM
they didn;t look that bad on the news - design wise

but apparently the neighbours were pissed that the lot had become two and they had put up a big fight when they heard waht was going to happen - but they lost out in city hall

Nutterbug
02-18-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm all for intelligent public debate as an essential part of any plan or development, but sometimes it feels that political debate is unattainable with such radical incoherent crowds.

People that take part in any radical action, such as arson, will only lose credibility in the eye of the larger public. The person or persons that took part in such action should be ashamed of themselves, as they've only weakend the position of the community in future debate.

And tell the Islamic fundamentalists that terrorism does not work.

LordMandeep
02-18-2007, 07:46 PM
lol somone tried to burn some construction equipment at Toronto's cityplace in the summer. So nimby's is a national trend.


TIME to bring the war measures act!!

lol

Nutterbug
02-18-2007, 07:57 PM
NIMBY terrorism?

LordMandeep
02-18-2007, 08:00 PM
CNN security Watch!!

vid
02-18-2007, 08:19 PM
They must be scared of shadows. Or they don't want to lose their view of the mill. Time for that 10m height limit eh?



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