Sacramento Proposal/Approval/Construction Thread - III

[creamcityleo79]

Great update from a different perspective! :)

[TowerDistrict]

whoa! that's a priceless shot there! I've never actually seen the underground storefront before. i wish they could somehow incorporate those into the design of the new shops going in. that's very cool.

[creamcityleo79]

Found some info about what I think is the Cooper Union Building:

http://www.tricommercial.com/property_search/property_profile.php/?propertyID=1920

[Nawlijispower]

I went over and spoke with HMH at the CalStrs site and they said the crane is going up mid-april
i went by the calSTRS site on cap corridor this morning and noticed that they have the base of the crane put in. anyone know the schedule for when we'll see that building start rising out of the ground?

[doriankage]

I wish they would use those bricks for something in the project. I think it would add character.

Mentioning the old storew fronts, I think an awesome project for DT would be to make an Underground Sacramento District just like Underground Atlanta. I love the shops and restaurants and clubs.
That would take a BOLD vision, which I feel Sacramento doesn't have...yet!
If city officials want something to draw people DT, this would be one of them!

[sugit]

Mentioning the old storew fronts, I think an awesome project for DT would be to make an Underground Sacramento District just like Underground Atlanta.

Damn, that sounds pretty awesome. I bet you could get a lot of people in Sacramento behind something like that too. I couldn't even imagine the $$$ involved though.

[creamcityleo79]

They're starting a tour. But, it's nothing like Underground Atlanta. You know, for as sprawly as it is, I love Atlanta!

[innov8]

Natomas East/Gateway Tower
One twelve story office tower at 198 feet with 331,970 total sf.

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3098/eastrenderingkq6.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8853/eastproposed1bp4.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6906/eastproposedbb0.jpg
In the planning/development stage on parcel two, next to Natomas Park Drive,
a 15 story hotel/condo with 200 guest rooms and 24 condos could rise and
would also be 198 feet tall.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/2534/natomaseast12storyzv1.gif

[Sacto]

^ :cheers: . That's not bad for Natomas

[doriankage]

Natomas East/Gateway Tower
One twelve story office tower at 198 feet with 331,970 total sf.

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3098/eastrenderingkq6.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8853/eastproposed1bp4.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6906/eastproposedbb0.jpg
In the planning/development stage on parcel two, next to Natomas Park Drive,
a 15 story hotel/condo with 200 guest rooms and 24 condos could rise and
would also be 198 feet tall.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/2534/natomaseast12storyzv1.gif

I LOVE THE PARKING LOT!!!!:yuck:
I guess Natomas is going to start looking like Irvine.... Now there's a world class city!:uhh:
How close is this project to the proposed DNA line?

[innov8]

DNA will be about half mile to the east... and I don't think Natomas is tring to become
a world class city, downtown is where the focus is right now.

[goldcntry]

DNA will be about half mile to the east... and I don't think Natomas is tring to become
a world class city, downtown is where the focus is right now.

This is evident by the amount of hostility from the Natomas neighborhood groups whenever there's a community meeting about the proposed DNA line. :koko: Northgate in the perfect corridor for the rail line and all the neighborhoods there can do is gripe and complain about how much the DNA will lower their standard of living... like 15 acre parking lots help... Just goes to show the mentality of people who knowingly buy and build $500K homes in former rice fields. ;)

[innov8]

As part of the deal for this Natomas East tower & hotel, the Dept. of
Transportation will expand I-5 to 10 lanes plus auxiliary lane expanstion
at the W. El Camino Blvd. as part of Cal Trans I-5 Transporation Concept Report.

[creamcityleo79]

As part of the deal for this Natomas East tower & hotel, the Dept. of
Transportation will expand I-5 to 10 lanes plus auxiliary lane expanstion
at the W. El Camino Blvd. as part of Cal Trans I-5 Transporation Concept Report.

Are you being serious or are facetious?!

[downtownserg89]

I wish they would use those bricks for something in the project. I think it would add character.

Mentioning the old storew fronts, I think an awesome project for DT would be to make an Underground Sacramento District just like Underground Atlanta. I love the shops and restaurants and clubs.
That would take a BOLD vision, which I feel Sacramento doesn't have...yet!
If city officials want something to draw people DT, this would be one of them!


dude, that would be hella awesome! it would add another thing to do in the 'what to do in sac' list. if underground shops dont work, you could always use that space for like maybe adding an undergroud lightrail or streetcar! that would be kinda cool..

[Jockers61]

Just wanted to clarify that...would be somewhat of an advantage to have the line run up Northgate...it's a blighted corridor of run down strip malls..car washes
and liquor stores....but the Truxel alignment into N Natomas makes more sense from a ridership standpoint.:)

[doriankage]

DNA will be about half mile to the east... and I don't think Natomas is tring to become
a world class city, downtown is where the focus is right now.
I know DT is where the focus is.
I am in no way saying Natomas is becoming a world class city. It's not even a city!
What I said was Irvine! WOW! What a world class city... NOT! (ala Borat).
Guess that one flew over your head!:rolleyes:

Honestly, if they are going to build more towers in Natomas, then put in lots of apartments and condos, and places to eat and cut down on the parking spaces. Put a trolley system in there to get around and link it to the DNA line where ever and when ever they build it. Oh yeah, I for got... it's Sac! (Don't get me wrong, I love Sac, just don't carefor the people who run it.)

[innov8]

Are you being serious or are facetious?!

Well, I kinda got you ;)

The bullet point in a letter sent by the Department of Transportation said.

- Adequate setbacks are needed to allow an ultimate 10-lane freeway plus
Auxiliary lane expansion and the West El Camino Interchange and on the
I-5 mainline, as described in the Caltrans I-5 Transportation Concept Report.


Neuhickman, that was an attempt by me at some SSP.com humor :D

[bennywah]

^

Hey Phoenix is probablly one of the most sprawly cities I've ever been too, and even they are starting to put in a light rail system in parts of the city that needs it, and adding more density, walkable communities, Sac is sprawly but not like phoenix, I watched a report on discovery or read somewhere that for its lower population phoenix is one of the most spread out cities in america, even worse than L.A, when i visit my friend there it can take over an hour to get to one side of the city, without traffic!!!

[TowerDistrict]

Honestly, if they are going to build more towers in Natomas, then put in lots of apartments and condos, and places to eat and cut down on the parking spaces. Put a trolley system in there to get around and link it to the DNA line where ever and when ever they build it.

but then it would be like downtown, and who wants that? ewwww. :yuck:

[creamcityleo79]

Just remember...Rome wasn't built in a day...neither was Chicago...or New York...or San Francisco (okay, this one kinda sprung up fast because of the gold rush...). What I'm trying to say is, you're expecting a city to conform to the way you (we, even) want it to be overnight. A high-rise in Natomas is progress. They're not going to build more apartments over there. Doesn't South Natomas already have a bad rep for crime? If not, someone needs to check the Sac Police Crime Mapping Tool as I have been! It's not pretty! Anyways, if a business wants to build a 12-story building IN NATOMAS, that's great! It's not ideal...but, it's great. Business investment like that is a wonderful thing. Sacramento has a deep rooted car culture. It's changing a bit. But, until DNA is built, people will have a million excuses as to why they shouldn't take public transportation. Even with DNA, they'll give a million excuses. I could ramble all day. But, I won't! I know we all want the best for Sacramento. I think we just have to remember that our opinion (as right as it may be) about what's right may be TOTALLY different than someone elses and we just have to live with that.

[doriankage]

but then it would be like downtown, and who wants that? ewwww. :yuck:

But can't you see it coming? This project is the first and all it takes is one.
Better to start planning for it, then to fix the problem down the line.

[downtownserg89]

natomas could use a condo here and there, maybe a light rail stop, but thats bout it! i dont think it needs like the downtown treatment, ya know?

[bennywah]

^
at least Sacramento has identified it wants to be more dense and create more alternatives to using the car and the freeways, always a good start, and there are areas where around the light rail walkable communities are going in. I can imagine in 10 years or so with a younger population which will be fed by the lower cost of living that the transit oreiented deveolpments will be really popular especially with gas prices going back over $3 a gallon, It'll be like mission valley here in San Diego which has built a mini city around the trolley line that runs through.

[ltsmotorsport]

Great update, Serge. I like how you can see the slanted ceiling on the 25th floor of 621.

And that parking lot for the Natomas tower is HUGE! It's like 90% of the site! OK, maybe more like 80%. ;)

Oh, and almost forgot to mention that on the 621 site under the project tab, there is a link to some pictures taken from the 14th and 19th floors. :tup:

[innov8]

Double Post

[innov8]

Oh, and almost forgot to mention that on the 621 site under the project tab, there is a link to some pictures taken from the 14th and 19th floors. :tup:

Nice find Mike, I'll be up there on Thursday :slob:

[ltsmotorsport]

WOOT! Can't wait to see the fruits of your labor.

[downtownserg89]

hey i have a question about 621cm's tower feature lights. will they be visible from both sides of the building, like back in front and back, or just the front, which faces south? :shrug:

just wondering cause i live up here by the railyards site, and could already see 621 poke up in the sky. wouldnt mind a colorful display from Zapata Park!

[downtownserg89]

like front and back**

[Web]

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: I dont see a link to pix........same video same camera same jan update....hmmmmmmm

[SacRising]

I just drove back tonight from West Sac to East Sac over the 50/Bus.80/CapCity whateverthehellit'scalled... I suggest you do this drive at night before 621CM starts hanging its skin. It's the coolest effect seeing the Darth Vader (Renaissance Tower) and US Bank Plaza (next to Chaves Park) shimmer through the skeleton of 621. Sorry didn't get any pics, and I suggest you have someone else drive so you can take in the visual.

[creamcityleo79]

My husband and I will be taking that drive on Friday. We're going to be in town for job/apt hunting and flying into SF. 4 more weeks until we're Sacramentans! :) :) :)

[innov8]

621 Capitol Mall - taken last week... my computer came down with something so I could not post them at that time :(
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7478/621cm220070227fud7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/483/621cm820070303fjs5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Taken from Sactown Magazine world headquarter on the 14th floor of the Elks Bldg. :yes:

More under highrise construction (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=103)

500 Capitol Mall

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9938/500cm220070227fat5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

More under highrise construction (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=103)

[Majin]

I find it very amusing how 500 CM has been progessing so rapidly yet it is the least talked about highrise under construction on this site.

Effectively, 500 CM was announced probably 1-1.5 years after Aura was annouced yet it is already under construction and Aura is STILL a parking lot.

The fast pace of 500 CM is pretty amazing. It shows how fast something can go from proposal to construction if the developer has money. A real good constract between Saca/Nassi and the Tsakoloplas (sp?) family.

[Sacto]

Took me about 7.5 secs to figure out where this was taken from. A very rare angle...

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7478/621cm220070227fud7.jpg

Thanks for the photos, Innov8.

[creamcityleo79]

Took me about 7.5 secs to figure out where this was taken from. A very rare angle...

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7478/621cm220070227fud7.jpg

Thanks for the photos, Innov8.

I had the same problem. Nice angle! :)

[enigma99a]

I find it very amusing how 500 CM has been progessing so rapidly yet it is the least talked about highrise under construction on this site.

Effectively, 500 CM was announced probably 1-1.5 years after Aura was annouced yet it is already under construction and Aura is STILL a parking lot.

The fast pace of 500 CM is pretty amazing. It shows how fast something can go from proposal to construction if the developer has money. A real good constract between Saca/Nassi and the Tsakoloplas (sp?) family.

Makes a difference when a developer has money pouring out of their pockets eh? Now if Nassi had several hundred million in the bank, I'm sure Epic and Aura would be going up at the same time :haha:

[enigma99a]

Took me about 7.5 secs to figure out where this was taken from. A very rare angle...

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7478/621cm220070227fud7.jpg

Thanks for the photos, Innov8.

I don't know about everyone else, but I think it's a bit menacing to the dome. :haha:

[doriankage]

I don't know about everyone else, but I think it's a bit menacing to the dome. :haha:

Shhhh.... bow tie man might hear you! Next thing you know, he will be at a City Council meeting saying "Tear them all down and bring back the horse and buggy. These new fangled machines called auto-mobiles are ruining the air."

[econgrad]

Great Pics Innov8!!

[goldcntry]

My husband and I will be taking that drive on Friday. We're going to be in town for job/apt hunting and flying into SF. 4 more weeks until we're Sacramentans! :) :) :)

Yay!! Good time to be moving into Sac too... I really like the way the L Street lofts are looking. If you want a little distance between you and downtown, the F65 lofts are pretty cool... the Jamba Juice, Starbucks, and Dos Coyotes downstairs don't hurt at all either! http://www.fulcrumproperty.com/f65_lofts.htm They are also finishing up a whole rank of apartments there, but I'm not sure who the builder is. The new condos kinda cup the F65 property. All of this is right next to the 65th Street lightrail station, walking distance to CSUS, and close to great food shops (Corti Bros, Trader Joes), and a brew pub. Other shops in the complex include Office Depot, a nail/spa salon, and GameStop.


Wow... sounds like a commercial. I'll just close by saying that if I didn't have my house and I were single or kidless, I would probably enjoy living there. As it is, I'm there so often it feels like I do! :tup:

[SacRising]

.Yay!! Good time to be moving into Sac too... I really like the way the L Street lofts are looking. If you want a little distance between you and downtown, the F65 lofts are pretty cool... the Jamba Juice, Starbucks, and Dos Coyotes downstairs don't hurt at all either! http://www.fulcrumproperty.com/f65_lofts.htm They are also finishing up a whole rank of apartments there, but I'm not sure who the builder is. These are the East End Lofts, all rental units being built by Ravel/Rasmussen & Separavich/Domich. However, I hear these may be taken entirely by CSUS under a master lease contract for faculty/staff and possibly student apartments. The new condos kinda cup the F65 property. All of this is right next to the 65th Street lightrail station, walking distance to CSUS, and close to great food shops (Corti Bros, Trader Joes), and a brew pub. Hoppy Brewing Company-shitty beer, but good food. Other shops in the complex include Office Depot, a nail/spa salon, and GameStop.


Wow... sounds like a commercial. I'll just close by saying that if I didn't have my house and I were single or kidless, I would probably enjoy living there. As it is, I'm there so often it feels like I do! :tup:

[Sacdelicious]

From Bob Shallit's article in today's Bee:

Eat up: Another retail complex with, yes, another upscale eatery is being proposed for downtown's trendy 16th Street corridor.

Developer Johan Otto and architect Lynn Pomeroy are behind the "L16" project, a single-story, 13,000-square-foot building planned for the northeast corner of 16th and L streets. It's currently the site of a privately operated parking lot.

"We have some offers on the table" with potential tenants, says broker Mark Cordano, who began shopping the space a couple of weeks ago.

Interest is high, he says, because "it's one of the best locations downtown" -- at the intersection of two busy streets that connect to "high-income neighborhoods" in east Sac and Land Park.

Cordano says finding restaurants for the project won't be hard. Getting retailers is a bigger challenge.

When downtowns rebound, Cordano says, "typically you get the restaurants first, then shopping comes second."

[sugit]

Cathedral Square at 11th and J goes before deisgn review March 21st.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2428/stanton30pv.png

[TowerDistrict]

Mr. Shallit is always lurking :sly: though love reading his articles because it sorta confirms many of our rumors.

Here's a scathing article (http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2007/03/05/story4.html?page=3&b=1173070800^1426503) about an unrelated story of the developer of the North End Lofts that I believe Serg posted pics of earlier. No I see why that project was hung up for so long.

[SLO]

Cathedral Square at 11th and J goes before deisgn review March 21st.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2428/stanton30pv.png

Im not familiar with this tower, whats the story on it? Size, height, is it going to get built?

Thx

[sugit]

Cathedral Square Building
11th and J Street
Developer: St Anton / Cordano Company
Architect: Kwan Henmi Architecture/Planning
26 Stories, 233 Units, 15K Retail, ~290 feet

Here is the original article from 2004 when it was proposed
http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2004/10/18/story5.html

[Schmoe]

lol, wow this has been a slow week for construction news when were dragging out what high schools we went too, but what the hell, I went to Laguna Creek High school in sprawltacular laguna creek/elk grove. I was part of the first 4 year graduating class there in 98, and now next year is the 10 yr reunion oy I feel old now.

My ex-wife was in your graduating class.

[joninsac]

Here's a scathing article (http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2007/03/05/story4.html?page=3&b=1173070800^1426503) about an unrelated story of the developer of the North End Lofts that I believe Serg posted pics of earlier. No I see why that project was hung up for so long.

That could explain why the E Street Building is still an empty lot. Johnson is developing that project too.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/sergpix044.jpg

[ltsmotorsport]

From Bob Shallit's article in today's Bee:

Eat up: Another retail complex with, yes, another upscale eatery is being proposed for downtown's trendy 16th Street corridor.

Developer Johan Otto and architect Lynn Pomeroy are behind the "L16" project, a single-story, 13,000-square-foot building planned for the northeast corner of 16th and L streets. It's currently the site of a privately operated parking lot.

"We have some offers on the table" with potential tenants, says broker Mark Cordano, who began shopping the space a couple of weeks ago.

Interest is high, he says, because "it's one of the best locations downtown" -- at the intersection of two busy streets that connect to "high-income neighborhoods" in east Sac and Land Park.

Cordano says finding restaurants for the project won't be hard. Getting retailers is a bigger challenge.

When downtowns rebound, Cordano says, "typically you get the restaurants first, then shopping comes second."

Seriously? A ONE story building for one of the best locations in town? BORING! Some more apartments/lofts/condos would be a perfect fit for the site.

[downtownserg89]

so i'm guessing this one's also gonna take a while to get built, correct?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/dirtychimp182/DSC03818-1.jpg

[innov8]

Township 9
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5167/t9qr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

TowerDistrict has hit on this project several times... here's the current
rundown from the draft EIR that was just finished up.

This a mixed use development is called Township 9 and would be located
just to the north of Richards Blvd. on 65 acres. This proposal has two
development scenarios. Scenario A would have approximately 2,981 housing
units and 146,194sf of neighborhood retail and restaurants. Scenario B would
develop 839,628sf of office use (instead of residential) on the proposed lots
facing Richards Blvd. and reduce the total number of housing units to 2,350
.Plan B would also include 146,194 of neighborhood retail and restaurants
justlike plan A.

Township 9 would have apartments, condos, townhomes, and live/work units
and the building height for the site would range from 2 to 15 stories with a
maximum height of 180 feet for the residential unites and 235 feet for the
office. There would be five or six structures that would be 15 stories and
would be located along the Riverside Parkway. When looking at the rendering
above, you can tell which structures would be 15 stories by the shadows
they cast (the shadows are going the wrong way, being that the sun rises
and sets to the south).

The project would also include space for a transit station and tracks
forfuture Light Rail construction.

[TowerDistrict]

awesome!! thanks for posting that. it looks like they're ready to move on this project - clearing out the former tenants, finishing up the EIR, etc.

are my eyes playing tricks, or does 7th street dead-end and turn into a pedestrian-only plaza? i'm loving the riverfront pavilion idea!! it would be cool for various points along the river to feature small pavilions like that.

i'm liking what i see so far. i'm curious to see how parking will be managed.

[creamcityleo79]

I'm so glad this area is being redeveloped. But, I can't help but think of what that area used to be...especially the riverfront area around 10th St.

[Sacto]

Sweet. Is that considered to be part of the rail yards?

[creamcityleo79]

Sweet. Is that considered to be part of the rail yards?

No...this is a separate project that is North of Richards Blvd and South of the American River. The Railyards are basically Downtown.

[Phillip]

I'm still trying to learn how to post pictures. I couldn't do it last week but I'm trying again now.

I set up an account at imageshack (thanks, foxmtbr) and I'm going to try posting again now. Please someone let me know if you can see this picture or not. When I tried posting a pic to the forum last week *I* could see the pic on the forum (and I still can) although apparently nobody else could.

I'm not posting this for "oooh" and "aaah". Just want to see if I'm able to post a pic now.

This was sunset in Rancho Cordova, a week ago. The building at the bottom is the former HomeBase store at Folsom and Sunrise.http://profile.imageshack.us/user/johnsonjones/images/detail/#135/img0057bj3.jpg

[Phillip]

Grrrrrrrr.....no pic. :(

[Phillip]

Take three....

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1278/img0057bj3.jpg

[Phillip]

Bigger??

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7374/img0057zq9.jpg

[innov8]

Hey Phillip, there is a test section where you can test all these posts right here TEST (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15)

[Phillip]

Thanks, innov8. The Test Section is another thing I didn't know about. Sorry to take up bandwidth here. If you can see a pic in the post before this one then hopefully I'm through testing for now.

[brandon12]

^I see it. Nice shot.

[foxmtbr]

Yep, I see it now too. Nice shot, that's a familiar sight for me, I live near there. That Home Base (the building in the picture) has been vacant for what seems like almost 10 years now...

[innov8]

i'm liking what i see so far. i'm curious to see how parking will be managed.

If scenario A is choosen, 4,134 parking spaces will be provided. If scenario B
is choosen, there will be 5,389 spaces. The draft EIR mentions several parking
garages and even some under ground parking. I would think after looking at
the graphic, the parking garages would be the gray boxes or areas next to
the other buildings. The report says, 'garages would be exposed to view but
would have architectural finishes and design treatment'. Will have to see
what that means.

[goldcntry]

Sounds very promising, especially for an area with such a... *ahem* colorful past...

:angel:

[TowerDistrict]

Thanks for the parking numbers. The gray boxes all seem to be well concealed inside. All the buildings seem to face the street. the parks seem well placed and proportioned. i like it.

I'm not too familiar with the "colorful" past mentioned, but it seems a very industrious area. will there be any environmental clean up required before they can begin construction?

Also, what's the time-frame on that light rail station? wouldn't the tracks have to be built throught the railyards before they could reach Township 9? I would think the light rail station would be a HUGE selling point for both the residential and office portions of this project. So I'd think the developers would want RT to get there ASAP.

[creamcityleo79]

Thanks for the parking numbers. The gray boxes all seem to be well concealed inside. All the buildings seem to face the street. the parks seem well placed and proportioned. i like it.

I'm not too familiar with the "colorful" past mentioned, but it seems a very industrious area. will there be any environmental clean up required before they can begin construction?

Also, what's the time-frame on that light rail station? wouldn't the tracks have to be built throught the railyards before they could reach Township 9? I would think the light rail station would be a HUGE selling point for both the residential and office portions of this project. So I'd think the developers would want RT to get there ASAP.
I wouldn't be so much worried about the environmental cleanup as I would be the cleanup of condoms and lube packets! Don't ask how I know about this! ;)

Anyway, it's a great development in an area that REALLY needs it!

[TowerDistrict]

ohhh... i didn't realize it was that area.

i guess we'll see "cruising prohibited" signs along the parkway ;)

[creamcityleo79]

ohhh... i didn't realize it was that area.

i guess we'll see "cruising prohibited" signs along the parkway ;)
Hopefully, by that point it will be car cruising they're worried about! What a different world I live in now!...and what a good thing it is!

[downtownserg89]

oh my! "The North 10th street Levee," well, all i have to say is.. that place is not extinct yet. :tup:

[creamcityleo79]

oh my! "The North 10th street Levee," well, all i have to say is.. that place is not extinct yet. :tup:
WHOA! Aren't you a little young to know about that? I guess not so young...I was 17 when......well, we'll just say I was 17 when I found out about it.

[downtownserg89]

WHOA! Aren't you a little young to know about that? I guess not so young...I was 17 when......well, we'll just say I was 17 when I found out about it.

gaw, it is soo nerve racking going there! especially when you get approached. although i must say, their "ice breakers" are always sooooo cheesy and lame! :slob: but hey, good times, right?

[creamcityleo79]

gaw, it is soo nerve racking going there! especially when you get approached. although i must say, their "ice breakers" are always sooooo cheesy and lame! :slob: but hey, good times, right?
Well, alrighty then! Just be careful! I had a gun pulled on me one time there in the middle of something that shouldn't ever involve guns. Besides that, BE CAREFUL!....you know what I mean!...as for the ice breakers, I'm sure that's not what you're there for. So, those are quickly forgotten!

[downtownserg89]

Well, alrighty then! Just be careful! I had a gun pulled on me one time there in the middle of something that shouldn't ever involve guns. Besides that, BE CAREFUL!....you know what I mean!...as for the ice breakers, I'm sure that's not what you're there for. So, those are quickly forgotten!

oh my! A GUN? you mean the one that shoots right? shoots bullets..
that is soo scary. i would like cry. lol. and thanks, i'm always careful. although, one time, i took my friend's bike, and didnt lock it.. and well when i came back it was GONE. so i had to walk home. good thing i live on 10th street! it's sooo close to home. quite convinient.

well i havent been there in like decades so it doesnt really matter anyway.

if you dont mind me asking, what was the levee like back in your day?

[Majin]

What was Aura's deadline for having the land purchases from Taylor? Was it the end of march or the middle?

[sugit]

March 31st (corrected)

[downtownserg89]

March 31th

you mean 31st? :cool:

[creamcityleo79]

oh my! A GUN? you mean the one that shoots right? shoots bullets..
that is soo scary. i would like cry. lol. and thanks, i'm always careful. although, one time, i took my friend's bike, and didnt lock it.. and well when i came back it was GONE. so i had to walk home. good thing i live on 10th street! it's sooo close to home. quite convinient.

well i havent been there in like decades so it doesnt really matter anyway.

if you dont mind me asking, what was the levee like back in your day?
Let's take this to PM. I don't think anyone else wants to hear about the cruise park.

[Sacdelicious]

Well, alrighty then! Just be careful! I had a gun pulled on me one time there in the middle of something that shouldn't ever involve guns. Besides that, BE CAREFUL!....you know what I mean!...as for the ice breakers, I'm sure that's not what you're there for. So, those are quickly forgotten!

Wow, if there ever was a need for a PM session, that was it. Thanks for the enlightening discussion, however.

[downtownserg89]

Wow, if there ever was a need for a PM session, that was it. Thanks for the enlightening discussion, however.

:thankyouthankyou:

[Sacto]

CalSTRS...more under highrises (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=116795&page=2&highlight=sacramento)

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1811/img0660vf5.jpg

[ltsmotorsport]

Thanks for the pics, sacto.


Township 9 looks great, and since scenario B is denser with the offices, I'll have to say that it's my favorite. ;) :notacrook:

Also, when the city was thinking about putting a bridge over the American to Natomas, which street were they thinking about extending? I like the idea of the pavilion, but 7th st seems like the natural choice since it goes all the way into downtown.

[innov8]

Wow, if there ever was a need for a PM session, that was it. Thanks for the enlightening discussion, however.

I agree!

Common guys, you can start your own thread about pick-ups at the
10th street levee or whatever you wanna call it.

downtownserg89, I think myspace is more suitable for you or
even the skybar (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27) since your being a kid and all :tup:

[downtownserg89]

I agree!

Common guys, you can start your own thread about pick-ups at the
10th street levee or whatever you wanna call it.

downtownserg89, I think myspace is more suitable for you or
even the skybar (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27) since your being a kid and all :tup:

well yeah you're right. but sheesh, i couldn't help it. someone mentions the north 10th levee and i'm like OMG STORY TIME!

by the way, have you seen my myspace? it's fun. add me ;)

[creamcityleo79]

I agree!

Common guys, you can start your own thread about pick-ups at the
10th street levee or whatever you wanna call it.

downtownserg89, I think myspace is more suitable for you or
even the skybar (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27) since your being a kid and all :tup:

Seriously, it was already brought to PM. Did you really have to beat a dead horse? Where was your comment when there was almost 2 pages of Rosemont talk. There's not even any developments in Rosemont. But, there's going to be a development where that cruise park is and so we're discussing it. Imagine that...discussion on a skyscraper forum regarding development and the location of a development! It's shocking isn't it!? :tup:

[sugit]

Some good stuff going to the city countil next week


Aura Final Approval (http://sacramento.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&event_id=2&meta_id=106359)
As mentioned above, Nassi option on Lot A runs out on March 31st.


Studios for the Performing Arts at 14th and H (http://sacramento.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&event_id=2&meta_id=106355)
4-Story 46,000 Sqaure Feet building that will provide rehearsal, office, and classroom space for The Sacramento Ballet, Sacramento Opera, Sacramento Philharmoic Orchestra, and California Musical Theatre. Project is currently under going 11.5M fund raising efforts. Project is expected to be completed in 2 year. Going to design review on the 21st

K Street Streetscape Improvements (http://sacramento.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&event_id=2&meta_id=106367)
First phase will do 700 block (to start this summer to coincide with the 700 block developer) and the St Rose of Lima Park. Looks like they got some cool stuff planned including water features. Result of the lawsuit against Mohanna is due back in a couple of weeks

[reggiesquared]

CalPERS sunset. Snapped this with my blackberry 8100 when I was leaving work. Enjoy!
http://www.fojax.com/fojax/users/reggie/albums/random/user_513_IMG000306bd42.jpg

[sugit]

You guys are getting so many cool sunset shots these days. Awesome!

[innov8]

Seriously, it was already brought to PM. Did you really have to beat a dead horse? Where was your comment when there was almost 2 pages of Rosemont talk. There's not even any developments in Rosemont. But, there's going to be a development where that cruise park is and so we're discussing it. Imagine that...discussion on a skyscraper forum regarding development and the location of a development! It's shocking isn't it!? :tup:

Maybe your right neuhickman… I guess a discussion on cruise park and
picking up ‘dates’ is relevant to development :???: and your getting pissed at me
cause I’m calling you guys on it. As for your Rosemont banter, I must have
been away from my computer and interacting with the real world.
Remember, you’re the one who finds himself in the middle of all these
irrelevant discussions that go on and on and on…

When I go visit other forums on the site, nothing turns me off more from
reading about what’s going on there than a stupid discussion about
non-relevant issues. When I found this site, I could not believe all the good info
and insite people would bring to the forum… and when the conversation
went off course, someone would speak up.

Well, I imagine you and others now consider myself a wanna-be moderator….
So for a while I’ll stop and let others say something if they want. For the most
part, I’m one of the few here that ever says anything when something
non-relevant is mucking up the forum.

:offtopic:

[arod74]

I agree!

Common guys, you can start your own thread about pick-ups at the
10th street levee or whatever you wanna call it.

downtownserg89, I think myspace is more suitable for you or
even the skybar (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27) since your being a kid and all :tup:

:haha: You must have been looking over my shoulder innov8. I was thinking the same thing. I love your enthusiasm downtownserg89 but sometimes your posts make me think that I just sat down in front of my niece's myspace page. They make me laugh and cringe at the same time...

[ozone]

Thanks for the pics, sacto.


Township 9 looks great, and since scenario B is denser with the offices, I'll have to say that it's my favorite. ;) :notacrook:

Also, when the city was thinking about putting a bridge over the American to Natomas, which street were they thinking about extending? I like the idea of the pavilion, but 7th st seems like the natural choice since it goes all the way into downtown.


The reason for the location of the tracks is that it has to align with Truxel Road on the other side of American River and Sequoia Pacific Blvd is closer than N. 7th St. Also RT will be using city-owned land and an abandoned railroad spur near SPB to cut costs.

[fatchocolatecow]

Thanks for the parking numbers. The gray boxes all seem to be well concealed inside. All the buildings seem to face the street. the parks seem well placed and proportioned. i like it.

I'm not too familiar with the "colorful" past mentioned, but it seems a very industrious area. will there be any environmental clean up required before they can begin construction?

Also, what's the time-frame on that light rail station? wouldn't the tracks have to be built throught the railyards before they could reach Township 9? I would think the light rail station would be a HUGE selling point for both the residential and office portions of this project. So I'd think the developers would want RT to get there ASAP.

There is no environmental cleanup on this site like on the railyards. The worst thing dumped out there seems to be organic material from the cannery days. Not toxic, just makes for bad structural soil.

The last info I heard from RT was that the light rail station at 7th and Richards would be operational in 2014. Outrageous if you ask me. If I remember right, they apparently have the money lined up to build it, but not to operate and maintain.

[Fusey]

Studios for the Performing Arts at 14th and H (http://sacramento.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=7&event_id=2&meta_id=106355)
4-Story 46,000 Sqaure Feet building that will provide rehearsal, office, and classroom space for The Sacramento Ballet, Sacramento Opera, Sacramento Philharmoic Orchestra, and California Musical Theatre. Project is currently under going 11.5M fund raising efforts. Project is expected to be completed in 2 year. Going to design review on the 21st

Are there any more developments planned for the blocks north of this location? I checked the Wayfaring map (http://www.wayfaring.com/maps/widescreen/20365) but didn't see much. With Music Circus there and so many restaurants nearby the neighborhood seems like it could be development more.

[sugit]

Not that I know of. There are a few empty lots around that I have to think could be built on...and an awful lot of under untilized stuff as well.

[Phillip]

that's a familiar sight for me, I live near there. That Home Base (the building in the picture) has been vacant for what seems like almost 10 years now...The entire HomeBase chain shut around 2001 or 2002. There was another HomeBase up on Madison Avenue. I'm not sure if that spot is still empty too.

And speaking of empty stores...I walked past 800J a couple days ago and it still doesn't look like anything's close to opening on the ground floor. If nothing else I would have expected a Starbucks by now. How can you live in a Downtown loft and not have a Starbucks downstairs?

[aufbau]

I agree Phillip, starbucks in an upscale urban condo/loft project is as essential as the concierge and stingy parking allotments.

Hopefully something will show soon. It would do wonders for that stretch of street.

[downtownserg89]

:order:

look guys, i'm really into the whole skyscraper scene. yeah i may be pretty younger and, well, different than the majority of the people on this forum, but hey i can't help but to do the typical teenager thing as well!

i really like interacting with you older guys, i must admit. it's pretty new to me. however, i get the feeling my gayness isn't very appealing to others. i guess i'll have to tone it down some. :shuffle:

ok i'm done. let's just end it here and proceed with the skyscraper chit chat, k?

:rainbow:

[Sacdelicious]

:order:

look guys, i'm really into the whole skyscraper scene. yeah i may be pretty younger and, well, different than the majority of the people on this forum, but hey i can't help but to do the typical teenager thing as well!

i really like interacting with you older guys, i must admit. it's pretty new to me. however, i get the feeling my gayness isn't very appealing to others. i guess i'll have to tone it down some. :shuffle:

ok i'm done. let's just end it here and proceed with the skyscraper chit chat, k?

:rainbow:


Now I know you just didn't call me old and straight.....