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SpongeG
Mar 4, 2007, 10:38 PM
Bridge tops endangered list
Development, neglect threaten heritage sites

Don Luxton can't understand why the City of Vancouver wants to spend millions of dollars to make the Burrard Bridge ugly.

The bridge is regarded as an art deco marvel because it has such clean, elegant lines. But Luxton argues a proposal to add two "outrigger" lanes for cyclists on either side of the structure will destroy the bridge's symmetry and balance.

"It's like wearing a hula-hoop or girdle on the outside," says Luxton, Heritage Vancouver's president.

"They sound really light and delicate -- 'We'll just hang little outriggers on it' -- but actually they're nine feet wide, and probably solid concrete. It's an enormous amount of structure that will be added to the bridge. And the railings would be moved out, making it look like a 22-lane freeway going across. It's just so wide, it's going to look ridiculous."

The proposed changes have landed the Burrard Bridge at the top of Heritage Vancouver's annual list of Top 10 Endangered Heritage Sites.

This year's list is quite wide-ranging, a reflection of the real-estate boom that is drastically changing the face of Vancouver. Historic neighbourhoods like Japantown and the South Granville Apartment District are on the list, along with historic streetscapes in the 900 and 1000 blocks of Main Street and the 100 block of West Hastings, which is suffering from what heritage activists call "demolition through neglect."

Many of Vancouver's heritage schools are in danger of being knocked down because of the high cost of seismic upgrading, so they made the list as a group. Stanley Park's small stock of heritage structures is also included, mainly because Malkin Bowl looks like it will be knocked down.

The list is rounded out by St. Paul's Hospital, the Vogue Theatre and the 2400 Motel on Kingsway, which all face an uncertain future.

The estimated cost of the outrigger lanes on the Burrard Bridge has risen from $13.5 million to $20 million, but Luxton thinks the real figure would be closer to $40 million. Heritage Vancouver thinks the city should look at other options, such as putting the cyclist lanes on the Granville Bridge or building a cyclist and pedestrian bridge across False Creek.

The schools needing seismic upgrading include Strathcona, Kitsilano, Secord, Carleton, Gordon, Kitchener, Nelson, Queen Mary and Begbie. A Vancouver school board report states "almost all of these schools will likely have partial or full replacement as part of their seismic upgrading."

"Every one of these is a multi-million dollar decision that the school board has to make," says Luxton.

"We're also concerned that this seems to be an excuse to do a lot of other work on the buildings, other than seismic, and that's where the cost estimates go out of control. We're talking about potentially hundreds of millions of dollars worth of construction, any number of schools being demolished and our neighbourhoods being devastated by it."

The South Granville Apartment District is a neighbourhood of small apartment blocks roughly located between Broadway and 16th, and Oak to Fir. Most of the buildings are rentals, and the sites would be worth far more as condos. Few of the structures have heritage status, so Luxton fears it's only a matter of time before the three-storey apartments will start to come down.

"South Granville has some of our best apartment buildings from the 1910s and 1920s," he says.

"Very high-quality buildings, very beautiful. As a district it's very refined, very sophisticated. That's going to change. We're just going to see tower development.

"Ultimately the land is very valuable, the area is desirable, and we're going to see a change in character there, for sure. And it's not going to be affordable housing, either."

Another neighbourhood on the verge of redevelopment is Japantown, which runs from Main to Campbell and Hastings to Alexander. It contains some of the oldest buildings in the city -- on Alexander alone, there are houses from 1888, 1889 and 1897. But none of the houses are on the city's heritage register, a common problem in the long-forgotten neighbourhood on the eastern fringe of the Downtown Eastside.

"It's a mess, an area that seems to have fallen between the cracks of planning policy because of the social issues in the area," he says.

"Once it was fairly intact, and now there's an erosion to the area, building by building. We're seeing deterioration, we're seeing things all of a sudden disappear. Essentially we're starting to lose the character and fabric of the area."

Luxton thinks the city's heritage register needs to be upgraded to identify historically significant buildings that were missed when the register was compiled in the mid-'80s. He also thinks the city's heritage incentives program should be expanded to Japantown, which is actually as old as the designated historic districts of Gastown and Chinatown.

But even the heritage incentives haven't been able to spur any restoration projects in the 100 block of West Hastings, a street of beautiful 1900-era commercial buildings that is literally being left to rot.

"Until the Woodwards development [across the street] gets completed, those buildings are on hold," says Luxton.

"They're falling to ruin, even though they're available for the city's heritage incentives. There have been no takers in that block. The area is a disaster, an absolute disaster. There seems to be no plan to stabilize buildings, there seems to be no plan to make sure they remain long enough to actually be rehabilitated."

jmackie@png.canwest.com

604-605-2126

Heritage Top 10

1. Burrard Bridge

2. Vancouver schools

3. South Granville Apartment District

4. Stanley Park heritage buildings

5. 2400 Motel

6. 900 to 1000 block Main street

7. 100 block West Hastings

8. St. Paul's Hospital

9. Vogue Theatre

10. Japantown

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Art deco Burrard Bridge would be ruined by the addition of outrigger cycling lanes, Heritage Vancouver president says.
Photograph by : Mark van Manen, Vancouver Sun

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Stanley Park Pavilion.
Ian Lindsay/Vancouver Sun

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Lord Strathcona School.
Ian Lindsay/Vancouver Sun

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Willingdon Lodge, a heritage building at 1591 W 16th Ave.
Ian Lindsay/Vancouver Sun

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Malkin Bowl.
Handout/Vancouver Sun

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2400 Motel, 2400 Kingsway.
Glenn Baglo/Vancouver Sun

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901 Main Street.
Ian Lindsay/Vancouver Sun

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Argyll House, West Hastings.
Ian Lindsay/Vancouver Sun

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St. Paul's Hospital.
Bill Keay/Vancouver Sun

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Vogue Theatre.
Ian Lindsay/Vancouver Sun)

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414 and 412 Alexander are heritage homes. 414 at the left was built in 1889 and 412 was built in 1898.
Ian Lindsay/Vancouver Sun)


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smasher000
Mar 4, 2007, 10:45 PM
I hate that motel, i pass it all the time, it does not fit in with Vancouver's image. SCREW HERITAGE!!!

SpongeG
Mar 4, 2007, 11:02 PM
i think that motel is pretty cool

its nicely kept at least

elsonic
Mar 5, 2007, 4:59 AM
nice buildings. despite the «danger», they all seem pretty well kept, so... keep them!

you're lucky in some way : Vancouver has more money than Montréal, and less historic significant buildings. it shouldn't be too hard to maintain the built heritage.

and that part of the bridge, the Willingdon Lodge and that pavilion (pure Arts & Crafts) in Stanley Park are gold. the motel? not sure...

squeezied
Mar 5, 2007, 5:55 AM
Rid Of The Motel!!!

Dylan Leblanc
Mar 5, 2007, 7:14 PM
I say trash all those structures. If they aren't functioning in the way we need them to be today then they are holding the city back.

Hed Kandi
Mar 5, 2007, 11:31 PM
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The Vogue theatre has SERIOUS potential !!!


It could easily be converted to a South Beach esque....

eg:

http://www.carlsberg.lv/i/wall/800/Ocean-Drive-Miami.jpg

SpongeG
Mar 6, 2007, 1:36 AM
i thought the Vogue was being demolished?

Taller Better
Mar 6, 2007, 1:52 AM
I think the motel is retro and very cool. I would HATE to see any of those structures demolished or altered too much... good for this guy to bring the problem to our attention.

vanman
Mar 6, 2007, 9:31 AM
I say trash all those structures. If they aren't functioning in the way we need them to be today then they are holding the city back.

You sound like this is the 1960s!

Architype
Mar 10, 2007, 5:59 AM
All those structures could easily be saved simply by putting glass condos on top of them.

newflyer
Mar 10, 2007, 6:05 AM
I say trash all those structures. If they aren't functioning in the way we need them to be today then they are holding the city back.

You should seriously hold a seminars in Winnipeg ... the city is nitorious for killing projects inorder to save crap. Then they complain there is a lack of development. :rolleyes:


Some of those are descent buildings ... but cities need to look to the future.

Rusty Gull
Mar 17, 2007, 5:08 AM
I think saving Japantown is a critical project for Vancouver. Right now the entire area is in a miserable state -- and yet this area is an integral part of Vancouver's development. The history of the area is fascinating and tragic at the same time.

djmk
Apr 8, 2009, 7:03 PM
Global TV did a story on the revival of Flack Block (163 West hastings)

pretty cool stuff

http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/bc/video/index.html?releasePID=yjKFDz7HszmygObIfcVCCJnwSAQQ2SDC


(i did not know where to post this)

Vancity
Apr 8, 2009, 7:49 PM
I think saving Japantown is a critical project for Vancouver. Right now the entire area is in a miserable state -- and yet this area is an integral part of Vancouver's development. The history of the area is fascinating and tragic at the same time.

sorry for asking such a stupid question - but where is japantown, anyways?

LeftCoaster
Apr 8, 2009, 8:08 PM
I believe it is by Oppenheimer park isnt it? In one of the worst areas of town... sorta NE of Chinatown.

mezzanine
Apr 8, 2009, 8:41 PM
along powell street, northeast of china town. That whole area is cool, with the empire stevadoring building even more north of that. great potential, but the current state is frankly depressing.

IMO, bad saftey and function problems trump preservation everytime. SPH Burrard building is not meant for 21st century medicine, and I hope something is done about it before our next earthquake. WRT burrard bridge, either build the outriggers or close a lane for cyclists. the seismic upgrading of VSB schools is ongoing and hopefully can be expedited. the other issues we can have further debate on (vogue, southgranville, etc.)

Hed Kandi
Apr 8, 2009, 8:56 PM
Global TV did a story on the revival of Flack Block (163 West hastings)

pretty cool stuff

http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/bc/video/index.html?releasePID=yjKFDz7HszmygObIfcVCCJnwSAQQ2SDC


(i did not know where to post this)

Why did the government cancel funding for heritage restoration?

djmk
Apr 8, 2009, 9:07 PM
sorry for asking such a stupid question - but where is japantown, anyways?

japantown is the ending point of the 1907 race riot. those Japanese buggers fought back. however, they lost in the end when they were rounded up and sent off to internment camps during WW2. man, people were mean back then.

it would be kool to bring this neighbourhood back. I have no idea why the Nikkei Place in in South Burnaby. Its a nice place if you ever get the chance... perhaps Oppenheimer is just too disgusting now.

djmk
Apr 8, 2009, 9:09 PM
Why did the government cancel funding for heritage restoration?

because they suck

jlousa
Apr 9, 2009, 1:46 AM
The government didn't cancel the heritage restoration program, there is a lot of misinformation out there. There are two seperate programs, one is the heritage facade program in which the city will match up to $50,000 per facade with conditions, (facade needs to go to original condition and be upkept for at least 1oyrs), that is still up and running.
The second one is the one that is on hold (not cancelled), and for good reason it involves giving bonus density for major restorations. That bonus density is then able to be sold off to other developments at market rates. The money raised subsidies the restoration project. The problem is the density bank is overflowing with density with no not enough developments needing to purchasing from it, so that's why it's on hold. If it continues to build up it will drop the price of all that available density killing the potential return. The city has placed a hold on issuing new bonus density until the bank gets down to more reasonable levels. At which point it will restart, possibly with some tweaks so it doesn't get out of hand again.