[SteelTown]

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Lately a lot of actively has been happening at the Airport so I figured it's time to create a separate thread for Hamilton Airport. Many believe Hamilton Airport is on the verge of becoming a successful airport.

So here's a thread to anything related to Hamilton International Airport! Pictures, news articles, aeropolis, rumours, questions, or debates post em here.

[SteelTown]

Airport flies higher
John Rennison, the Hamilton Spectator

By Lisa Grace Marr
The Hamilton Spectator
(Mar 5, 2007)

John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport is growing up.

Compass Group Canada, a national food services company, has opened two Tim Hortons stores (one inside security, one in the lobby), an On the Fly store that offers everything from chewing gum to magazines and The Escarpment Lounge in the departure area.

Compass also has plans to renovate The Corner Cafe it already operates at the airport, transforming it into one of its Coyote Jack's Bar & Grill eateries.

The airport is also investing about $2 million in a number of other upgrades: A duty-free store it hopes will open in April, a renovated security screening area, a new kids play zone and a doubling of the international arrivals area.

It is scheduled to open May 1, the same day U.K. airline flyglobespan starts flights out of Hamilton.

Richard Koroscil, president of TradePort International which operates the airport, said its commercial development and expansion is part of an overall growth strategy and only partly due to flyglobespan's arrival.

Eric Cameron, regional director (Chartwells) Compass Group Canada, said the company responded to a request for a proposal before flyglobespan's announcement that it was coming to Hamilton. However, Cameron added it is evidence of the airport's potential.

"We're confident that flyglobespan will provide significant lift and we're pleased to be part of the airport's growth."

Compass, which has about 30 staff working at the airport, is a multinational, billion-dollar business and holds the highest number of Tim Hortons franchises in Canada.

It runs the on-board food service at WestJet and at several Hamilton locations, including Mohawk College and St. Joseph's Hospital.

Koroscil said the expansion is part of a strategy to expand services and flights slowly, keeping costs down for airlines and the airport.

"We take a different approach from many other airports. They spend billions and billions, we go slow. This is the first time we've had two main national carriers at the airport (Air Canada and WestJet) and we're now offering more destinations than at any other time in our history."

However, he acknowledged that flyglobespan's choice of Hamilton is big news.

With flyglobespan, Hamilton will offer more U.K. destinations than any other airport in Canada and will bring an estimated 600 extra passengers into the airport each day.

"There will be a 20 to 30 per cent lift in passenger traffic in '07 over '06," he said.

"Last year, we saw growth of over 20 per cent. Hamilton will directly benefit from this investment."

[GreatTallNorth2]

Hamilton Airport's recent addition of flyglobespan is great for SW Ontario passangers who want to travel to the UK, but don't want to go to Pearson. I do travel to the UK and would definately consider Hamilton for two reasons: 1) convenience - I live in London and it is much easier to drive to Hamilton 2) price - Toronto's airport fees are crazy.

London, England has about 4 or 5 airports that serve the city, so why can't Hamilton Airport serve Southern Ontario? There's no reason why Hamilton shouldn't see significant growth.

[SteelTown]

To make it even sweeter and convenient for SW Ontario Robert Q Airbus will offer daily scheduled airbus service between Hamilton International and London

ROBERT Q AIRBUS BEGINS DAILY SERVICE

Richard Koroscil, President and C.E.O. of the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport (hi) is pleased to announce that, beginning May 1, 2007, Robert Q Airbus will offer daily scheduled airbus service between Hamilton International and London, Ontario until October 31, 2007.

The daily service will also provide connectors to and from Windsor, Ontario (and points west) as well as to Strathroy and Sarnia.

“As we continue to grow our services, providing our customers with ease of access to and from Hamilton International is of paramount importance,” said Richard Koroscil, President and C.E.O. “Robert Q Airbus complements the ground transportation options to travellers throughout our catchment area and helps us fulfill the needs of our clientele.”

Robert Q. Airbus has been providing customers with reliable ground transportation in Southern Ontario for 30 years. They offer courteous, well-trained professional drivers and a fleet of vehicles that can accommodate up to 17 passengers in a safe, comfortable environment.

“We are a ground transportation leader in Ontario and Robert Q Airbus is thrilled to provide area travellers with convenient seasonal connections to the expanding international air travel from Hamilton International Airport,” said Dianne Adams, Sales & Marketing, Robert Q. Airbus. “We are confident that whether customers are flying for business or for that “once in a lifetime” vacation, they will enjoy our Airbus experience to and from hi.”

[Hammer Town]

http://www.flyhi.ca/images/header_home01.jpghttp://www.flyhi.ca/images/header_home02.jpg

Lately a lot of actively has been happening at the Airport so I figured it's time to create a separate thread for Hamilton Airport. Many believe Hamilton Airport is on the verge of becoming a successful airport.

So here's a thread to anything related to Hamilton International Airport! Pictures, news articles, aeropolis, rumours, questions, or debates post em here.

This is great except its already faily successful in my popinion but I guess it depends on what you think is sucessful.

Anyway good thread

I actually just wanted to Put up the airports website as well to allow people to have a better look. Its www.flyhi.ca

[LikeHamilton]

"Coyote Jack’s Road House" at Hamilton International is now under construction (started Monday) and will open Thursday or Friday of this week. A quick reno job working around the clock. I will post more on Wednesday or Thursday.

[y2k_pony]

I would be very suprised to see any DC-10's landing at CYHM, but I agree there is alot of activity going on there... They could make alot more money if the could retrofit the airport to take more cargo charters

[LikeHamilton]

Council aims for runway solution
Kevin Werner, Special to the Review
Published on Mar 09, 2007
International Airport President and Chief Executive Officer Richard Koroscil hopes a compromise solution can be worked out with councillors over extending the airport's runway.
"We will try to move forward," said Koroscil. "(Council's decision) did not send a positive message to the airport. There are lots of things happening (at the airport). We want to keep that momentum."
After nearly two hours behind closed doors last week, councillors narrowly voted to reject an offer by two developers to sell vital land needed to extend the airport's runway.
"What signal did that decision send to the business community?" said Stoney Creek councillor Dave Mitchell, who voted to purchase the land. "This is embarrassing for the city. It's a shame. How can Hamilton go forward if these types of decisions take place?"
Proponents of the land purchase lament that if the city doesn't purchase the land, the property is only expected to increase in value, making it even more expensive for the city to buy the land in the future. But Hamilton councillor Chad Collins, who voted against the deal, said the estimated cost of about $4.7 million for the land was "prohibitive" for an already cash-strapped municipality.
"We would pay a higher amount (for the land) than what it is appraised," he said. "I'm all for the runway expansion. But not in an 'all or nothing' scenario."
City staff have been working on this land deal for the past six months. It involves developers Anthony De Santis Jr. and Vince Molinaro, who bought the 31-hectare plot on Airport Road in 2002 for over $600,000.
City officials and some councillors were stunned at the vote on Feb. 28. But the land deal, say city officials, remains on the table until the end of the month for the city to consider.
City staff and Koroscil are planning to meet with politicians before they hold their March 28 council meeting. Koroscil says there are some councillors who oppose the land deal because of a lack of information on what the airport needs for its future growth.
"It's about not understanding and the constraints we are in today," he said. "It's about what the overall commercial and operating needs are."
Over the last few years, councillors have become uneasy over the 40-year lease arrangement with Tradeport signed in 1996. Under the contract, the city is obligated to purchase land and help to develop the airport's runways. By 2036, the property, including the buildings, will be turned over to the municipality.
Koroscil has advocated that, for Hamilton International Airport to financially survive, it needs to grow. The idea is to purchase an undetermined amount of property over the next few years at a cost of almost $15 million. The land would be used to extend the south runway, expand the taxi area and construct new hangers.
The city had budgeted about $2.5 million to purchase land to extend the runway. The runway project wouldn't begin until 2011, after an environmental assessment takes place.
Collins, a critic of the lease agreement, doesn't believe Hamilton is getting value for the money it is investing. He says Hamilton is only receiving about $50,000 in revenues from Tradeport under the lease arrangement. For instance, part of the land acquisition would be used to expand the airport's parking area, which according to airport officials, the city is obligated to do because it is part of airport operations.
Yet, says Collins, the city would receive only a portion of the parking revenue. Parking, said Collins, shouldn't be associated with airport operations.
"It doesn't make sense," he said. Koroscil responds that you can't operate an airport without a parking area.
The land purchase would also allow the airport to expand its fuel depot area, which contains only a half-day of fuel for planes. The depot, he said, would be relocated so a hanger can be expanded, said Koroscil. The (fuel depot) is not in a good location, he said. "It's next to an existing hanger."
The airport, said Koroscil, has grown into a economic juggernaut, providing up to 600 good-paying jobs compared to about 200 jobs a few years ago.
Tradeport, which manages the airport for the city, has also injected about $150 million to improve the facility, he said. "This is a great opportunity," Koroscil said. "The city is our partner in this deal."

[fastcarsfreedom]

y2k pony--I wouldn't expect to see DC-10s landing anywhere--almost all the passenger versions are beer cans by now.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Sorry, another quick question for y'all. I've been trying to follow this land acquisition story from afar--this purchase and proposed runway extension, I'm assuming this is for 06/24? If so, is the plan to go to 10,000 also? There is also the mention of flight kitchens, a fuel farm and new hangars--assuming this part of the plan to demolish the existing hangars west of the terminal to facilitate the terminal expansion plan?

[LikeHamilton]

Sorry, another quick question for y'all. I've been trying to follow this land acquisition story from afar--this purchase and proposed runway extension, I'm assuming this is for 06/24? If so, is the plan to go to 10,000 also? There is also the mention of flight kitchens, a fuel farm and new hangars--assuming this part of the plan to demolish the existing hangars west of the terminal to facilitate the terminal expansion plan?

Yes it is for 06/24 as it is only a 6000 ft runway.

They need a new proper tank farm as the one that there was designed for a private plane airport and is most likely not very environmentally friendly.

This is the second time a flight kitchen has been proposed for the airport. The first time was 15 years ago when Nationair flew out of Hamilton. It was to be built where the present outer part of the parking lot is. There is no proper facility near by to service aircraft. I suspect that Flyglobespan will belly their meals. That is to say that they will be prepared in the UK and placed in the belly. In Hamilton they will bring up the meals from the belly, heat and serve. The empty trays and carts from the flight over will be place in the belly for the return trip. It is not very cost effective as it takes up space and fuel that could be used to carry revenue generating cargo. I suspect if they are looking to invest in a flight kitchen that they are expecting Flyglobespan to stay and they are get other airlines that need a flight kitchen.

Rumor is that Ontario Flightcraft wants to expand their hanger and there are other companies looking for space. The Glanford hanger to the west of the terminal is not being used for anything large as the last expansion of the terminal, out to the west for the new baggage security checking area, has blocked most of the access to the hanger. They is not much land close to services left on that side of the airport. The north side lands are not serviced. In the original pre WestJet cut back terminal expansion, the Glanford hanger was to be torn done to allow expansion to the west.

[LikeHamilton]

I was at the Hamilton International Airport and boy was I surprised. I took some picture.

The International Arrivals expansion. There are new windows going in this side of the building.

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The new "Tim Horton's” and "On The Fly”.
On the Fly sell magazines, drinks, pre made sandwiches, salads, candies, souvenirs etc. Both of these are just before security and available to everyone. The Tim Horton’s after security is also now open. This is where the old security entrance was. They opened on Wednesday February 28th in time for the Tim Horton’s Brier.

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This is looking in from the terminal to the security area. It is a large sitting area with tables and food service similar to the ”On The Fly”. This is the area where the second Tim Horton’s is. Right behind the other Tim Horton’s. This is the escarpment lounge. There is more to come when they get their liquor license. The notice is up for the required 45 days for people to object. It ends March 31st and then they can have their license if no one objects. At first it will only be beer, wine and coolers. They have not started on the Duty Free Shop yet. Dopy me. I was able to get into the secure area with my camera in my pocket. I was so busy asking questions I forgot to take it out and take some picture. Maybe next time.

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These are 2 of the “Hi Ambassadors” at Hamilton Airport :help: . They wear orange shirts and have a gold name tags with their name on it. Right now there are close to two dozen of them and they are there for the noon flights and the late afternoon flights everyday. In May they will be there starting earlier and stating later for the summer schedule.

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The new security area. Has a lot more room.

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The Tourism Hamilton Information and Ground Transportation booth.

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One of the baggage claim areas with people waiting from a WestJet flight.

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Work will start soon in the check in area. Counters will be moved out from the back so there will be a flow through by each check in deck. People will carry their own bags to the back and place them onto the belt. They will also be adding monitors over each desk so they can show what airline is using them and adjust the number of desk assigned to them with a push of the button. The curved wall to the east of the check in area is being removed along with the offices behind it to expand the area.

The International Arrivals area expansion is on schedule.

Coyote Jack’s Road House opened on Friday March 9th. Here are some pictures I took this morning (Sat)

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:cheers:

[SteelTown]

Good job! They've really made the new security area bigger. The old one was TINY lol. Looks like the check in area is getting more cramped, might need to expand that area in the future if more airlines come.

[fastcarsfreedom]

I'm SO impressed with those photos of the airport. I barely recognize anything aside from the Tourism Hamilton area and the current check in desks. The screening area is excellent--looks like something worthy of a major airport finally.

Love the Ambassador program--makes me wish I still lived there so I could be a part of it.

[vid]

Wow... I am underwhelmed. :/

Is that what the terminal looks like? :yuck:

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Ours ^ Not exactly award winning but it also has a funny little park, you can watch planes take off from the third floor and it's shaped like a wing. :) You guys really have no excuse. :(

How many passengers do you get a year?

[LikeHamilton]

Wow... I am underwhelmed. :/

Is that what the terminal looks like?

Sorry!!!! But we are in the shadow of Hog Town (Toronto) and we have to get around the fact that the world revolves around them and they would like to control everything.

How many passengers do you get a year?

Expecting 750,000 to 800,000 in 2007

And you’re from Lakehead? I take it that’s Thunder Bay? I've been there. You shouldn't throw stones.



:)

[vid]

Being near Toronto isn't an excuse for an ugly terminal. :(

"You shouldn't throw stones."

Why? People throw them at me all the time, I have to disperse the collection somehow. :)

[SteelTown]

Hamilton Airport was built as a regional airport, hence the smallness of the airport. It wasn't until I think 1998 when WestJet made Hamilton Airport it's hub that Hamilton Airport actually started to become a big passenger airport. It was mostly cargo.

Then in I think 2001 Hamilton Airport came out with a plan to expand the Airport, think it was $150 million, not sure. But WestJet moved it's hub to Toronto. So since then Hamilton Airport has been waiting for another airline to kick start the passengers number up again so that the airport can go ahead with its expansion plans. We are starting to see expansion. I remember someone mentioning at the end of the year we might hear some news of a major airport expansion if flyglobespan becomes a success.

I think LikeHamilton has a copy of the old expansion plan. You should send a copy here or copy and paste the plan here so we can get a better idea of what Hamilton Airport could look like in the future.

[the dude]

don't be hatin'. it's all about baby steps where "hi" is concerned. it's hard growing this airport with pearson and buffalo so close by. if i'm not mistaken your terminal was built with government money. no such luck here. it's all private dollars. passenger numbers are probably very similar though i'm guessing a lot of your passengers are simply transferring flights. i might be wrong about that. anyway, i know the isolation of living in thunder bay can cause serious mental health issues so i'll cut you some slack.

[hackunion]

Siding and drop down ceilings? It really does feel like a world away from Toronto.

[raisethehammer]

it is true though - Hamilton airport looks like a hospital cafeteria.
That pic of the Thunder Bay airport at least looks like a small version of a real airport.
YHM needs to add a second floor or blow off the roof and raise it by 10 or 15 feet and get something other than the tubes of florescant lighting like a call centre office area.
The pics of new areas and eateries look great...hopefully they'll keep renovating the place.

[the dude]

those ambassadors would be more effective if they were younger and sexier. just my opinion. perhaps they ought to open up a hooters at the airport. it wouldn't affect the number of passengers but there would be a lot more people hangin' around up there. :haha:

[fastcarsfreedom]

YHM's so-called "ugly" terminal came courtesy of a Liberal federal government who tossed John Munro some money as a favor for his loyalty--and invested those dollars in an airport that was built to fail. It was in a corn field with meagre highway access, short runways amidst an era of airline regulation that prevented tangible growth. I have nothing at all against Thunder Bay--but really, it's apples and oranges. Thunder Bay is isolated--far away from competing airports--and really in a position where air travel is the only viable way in and out of town for most travellers.

Hamilton's sucesses, the reason I celebrate a revamped screening area or a new Tim Hortons, is because they are hard-fought, hard-won sucesses--by sweat equity and in spite of all the obstacles that have held back the airport for so long. The terminal might have a low ceiling or "hospital cafeteria" ambience--but you know, that's no excuse at all for still using YYZ while complaining about lack of service at YHM. Nice looking airports are great--but the utilitarian models work just as well.

It wasn't long ago there was a single airline and nothing but silence in that terminal--hell, at one point, even the single restaurant closed up. Y'all might not like the ceiling or the sexiness of the ambassadors--but I'm thrilled--I've wanted that place to thrive for so long--it's wonderful to finally see it happen.

[Hammer Town]

Wow I love seeing these pics of the Terminal. I know I will be there welcoming Flyglobespan to Hamilton on May 1st its already booked off.

The 24-06 will probably be expanded to 10,000 ft. If you go to flyhi.ca and look at the Master Plan that is near the bottom on the left you can see some of the details the they want to see for the future.

As far as DC-10s coming the YHM it has already happened with Cargo, Arrow air brought one in. 747s have been in as well an AN-124s.

If Flyglobespan ever actually does some sort of Advertising they will do well other wise they may struggle unless they have high loads from the UK which they have said this is the case.

As far as loads in general I sometimes wonder if the Arrogance of people outside of the Hammer regarding the view of the city as a whole is the same reason people chose to drive past Hamilton airport to get to Pearson. I sometimes get frustrated when I talk to people even in Hamilton who tell me they drove to Pearson to Catch a Westjet flight to Calgary. It drives me bonkers.

I was doing a co-op with Westjet dring there busiest time here in Hamilton and they had great loads on just about every flight from Hamilton. Too Bad the GTAA gave them a nice deal to lure them away but thats a differant topic for a differant day.

One last thing. I think that Hamilton should change the airport to the Hamilton-Niagara International Airport. With so many people going to Niagara Falls every year this should be something to focus on.


Anyway Long live the Hammer and YHM

p.s. I like this thread as I know alot more about the Airport then Downtown.

[LikeHamilton]

I do like this video produced by Hamilton International Airport.

http://www.flyhi.ca/about/v-cargo.shtml

[LikeHamilton]

The Original Plans for the Hamilton International Airport Terminal Expansion

I have found some of the plans for the original airport expantion. I am still looking for the floor plans.

Hamilton International Terminal Expansion – Key Facts

Phase 1

Time Frame - Currently underway through to end of 2002

Major Work
· Terminal renovation and expansion to provide interim increase in check-in and bag claim capacity
· New covered walkways on apron
· Aircraft apron expansion
· Access road realignment and car park expansion
· Initial design work for new terminal
· Hangar demolition and other site preparation
Capacity at Completion
· Up to 7 aircraft gates (apron access)
· 1.4 million passengers annually

Phase 2

Time Frame - Spring 2003 to Spring 2004
Major Work
· Construction of first portion of new terminal to west of existing terminal, providing new arrivals facilities
· Additional apron construction
· Realigned exit road and additional parking expansion
Capacity at Completion
· 9 gates
· 2.3 million passengers annually

Phase 3

Time Frame - Spring 2004 to Spring 2005
Major Work
· Partial demolition of eastern side of existing terminal
· Construction of second portion of new terminal to east of existing terminal, providing new check-in facilities
· Final apron and taxiway construction
· Final reconfiguration of terminal curbs
Capacity at Completion
· 15 gates
· 4 million passengers annually

Phase 4

Time Frame - Spring 2005 to Spring 2006
Major Work
· Demolition of remaining portion of existing terminal
· Construction of final portion of new terminal linking previously completed arrival and departure halls
Capacity at Completion
· 15 gates
· Up to 5 million passengers annually

Legend

Orange – New phase work

Blue – Completed

Green – Original Terminal still standing

Purple – Demolition


Phase 1 - 2001 to 2002

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Phase 2 - Spring 2003 to Spring 2004

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Phase 3 - Spring 2004 to Spring 2005

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Phase 4 - Spring 2005 to Spring 2006

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Site Plan

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You can see in phase 4 the original terminal is the small orange part. It is small compared to the new terminal.
Some parts where completed out of order. They did do all of the parking lot. At the time they released the plans, they where trying to decide whether or not to building a parking garage.

:(

[LikeHamilton]

And how the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport is sold in the UK.

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[SteelTown]

Thanx! Now we can sort of get an idea of what the airport might look in the future.

Phase 1 is already done right? Did they demolition that hanger to the west?

Think we'll ever see Phase 2 within this decade?

Now which runway does the airport want to expand? Looking at the site plan I see two runways labeled 12 to 30 and another labeled 90 to 24. Which of those runways will eventually get expanded?

[LikeHamilton]

Thanx! Now we can sort of get an idea of what the airport might look in the future.

Phase 1 is already done right? Most of it.
Did they demolition that hanger to the west? Not yet
Think we'll ever see Phase 2 within this decade? If Flyglobespan goes well they may start next year (2008)
Now which runway does the airport want to expand? Looking at the site plan I see two runways labeled 12 to 30 and another labeled 90 to 24. Which of those runways will eventually get expanded? You read it from the ends so it is 06/24 and this is the one they will have to lengthen. They will have to move Airport Rd also.

:)

[vid]

Looks ambitious. :) Any renderings of the terminals?

[fastcarsfreedom]

I'm not sure what the "official" status is of that redevelopment plan, but you'll recall that the major engineering/consultantcy company ARUP designed that terminal expansion--I imagine that cost TradePort some coin--so I'd anticipate that terminal design/plan surviving.

Depending on the airport's traffic in the next couple of years that ball could get rolling again--perhaps with bickering over additional land for surface parking they could look at a parking deck and a split-level roadway system to serve the terminal.

[Hammer Town]

Here is a more recent Master Plan.

Its a fairly large PDF Flight but pretty nteresting to read.

http://www.flyhi.ca/pdf/amp_update.pdf

[SteelTown]

Pretty sure there was an article about 2 weeks ago saying Tradeport bought a piece of land across from Airport Road for more surface parking. So I guess a parking structure is out of the question for now.

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Councillor balks at TradePort's parking proposal

By Stories by Steve Buist
The Hamilton Spectator
(Feb 20, 2007)

A numbered company owned by the same people who operate Hamilton's airport has bought a chunk of land for more than $3.4 million to build a parking lot across the road from John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport.

The property of approximately 25 hectares was purchased on Dec. 14 by 2113522 Ontario Inc., which has the same ownership structure in the same proportions as TradePort International Corporation, which operates the airport under a 40-year lease with the city.

Richard Koroscil, president and CEO of both TradePort and 2113522 Ontario Inc., said the land purchase was funded by the numbered company's shareholders and not from TradePort International.

Koroscil said the numbered company was created because there could have been a potential conflict if TradePort owned the newly acquired land, which isn't within the airport boundary.

TradePort had asked the city to purchase the parcel last year and add it to the airport so that TradePort could develop more parking.

"(The city) had decided that they didn't want to do that at the time," said Koroscil.

"Our concern was that we didn't have a lot of time because of the expansion that was taking place in terms of our business," he added, "so rather than getting caught down the road without having the facilities to expand the parking facility, we moved ahead and purchased it."

TradePort is still hopeful that the city will consider buying the land from the numbered company.

Ward 5 Councillor Chad Collins, a vocal critic of the airport lease, said such a deal "makes no sense financially." Hamilton owns the airport and the land it sits on while TradePort's role is to operate the airport, which includes collecting landing fees, passenger fees and rent from tenants.

TradePort is responsible for developing business at the airport, including the parking lot that already exists, as well as the cost of capital improvements. Anything that gets built on Hamilton's land becomes the city's property when the lease runs out.

The lease with TradePort stipulates that the city is only responsible for purchasing land that would be directly needed for a runway expansion.

"My direction right now is to purchase land for the extension of the runway and that's all I've gotten direction to do," said Guy Paparella, the city's director of airport development. "If (Koroscil) approaches us, obviously we have to consider it and put it in front of council and see what they think."

[SteelTown]

I'm getting confused with all these runways news. I know right now the City is paying $10 million for land acquisitions (Hamilton International Airport Land Acquisitions) around the airport, which will expand runways and taxi ways.

But now there's $4.6 million for another runway expansion? Huh?

I really hope Phase 2 of the airport happens soon. It would give the airport a better appearance and make it more modern.

[Hammer Town]

I'm getting confused with all these runways news. I know right now the City is paying $10 million for land acquisitions (Hamilton International Airport Land Acquisitions) around the airport, which will expand runways and taxi ways.

But now there's $4.6 million for another runway expansion? Huh?

I really hope Phase 2 of the airport happens soon. It would give the airport a better appearance and make it more modern.

Im pretty sure its for the same runway but there were someproblem with the land purchase the city only want to pay for the Land for the Runway but Tradeport also wants to put a bigger fuel farm as well as a flight kitchen on some of the same land so the City doesn't want to pay for the land for that as well, only for the Runway. Another problem is that the developers are wanting more money then the land has been appraised at.


As far as the terminal goes the only way we will see continued growth is if we continue to see passenger numbers go up and Flyglobespan sticks around for good. I think this would have to even include for the winter.

I know without a doubt that if the terminal was built into something more modern the number would probably go up even more then they would realise. We have even seen it somewhat proved on the fourm that the looks of the terminal play a larg part in whether or not people will use it.

Anyway there is a lot banking on Flyglobespan sucess.

[zerokarma]

Good to hear that Hamilton's airport is growing and starting to prosper, I think there is a lot of opportunities for them to continue growing it there.

[LikeHamilton]

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

VANCOUVER AIRPORT SERVICES



Richmond, B.C. (March 12, 2007): Vancouver Airport Services (YVRAS), finalised the purchase of the remaining 37.67% of the shares of Tradeport International Corporation, increasing its ownership from 62.33% to 100%. Tradeport International Corporation has a long-term lease to manage, operate and develop the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport in Hamilton, Ontario.

As one of the fastest growing airports in Canada for 2006, Hamilton International hosted 527,000 passengers, 74,500 aircraft movements and 86,000 tonnes of cargo. The Airport offers regular scheduled service on Air Canada and WestJet as well as seasonal charters to international sunshine destinations and Europe. In addition, the award-winning airline flyglobespan will commence three daily flights this summer to numerous destinations in the UK. The Airport is Canada’s busiest inter-modal freight airport with regular service by Purolator, UPS and CargoJet.

The John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport is owned by the City of Hamilton. In 1995, the city purchased the airport lands and buildings from Transport Canada. In 1996, the city transferred management of the airport to the private sector following a competitive tender process. TradePort International Corporation was awarded a 40-year lease to develop and manage the airport, with YVRAS as a minority shareholder and contracted manager/operator.

George Casey, the President and CEO of YVRAS, stated, “Acquiring the remaining shares is a natural progression for us. We are excited about the continued growth opportunities at the Airport and are committed to working with the City of Hamilton and other key stakeholders to further develop the Airport as a key economic driver in the region.”

Vancouver Airport Services is owned by the Vancouver International Airport Authority. The company operates 18 airports in 7 countries including Canada, the Dominican Republic, Chile, Jamaica, Turks and Caicos, Cyprus and The Bahamas.

For more information contact:



George Casey

Vancouver Airport Services

Tel: 604 276 6060

Fax: 604 276 6070

George_casey@yvr.ca

Maybe we will see more activity and money spent around the airport. I cannot see them spending all that money and not doing something with the airport.

:tup:

[SteelTown]

Would you happen to know how much Tony Battaglia got for selling his shares?

I wouldn't be surprised within a few weeks Tony really starts the renovation of the Royal Connaught with that money.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Maybe this will change TradePort's access to equity, which has been apparently miserable--most of the improvements they've made have been supported by operations, as opposed to long-term liabilities. Perhaps YVR can more easily go out and borrow a chunk of change to make some major improvements.

[Hammer Town]

I hope so they should have more access to funds. Im actually kind of suprised that The City didn't try and stop this from happening.

[Hammer Town]

Just as an FYI, there was an advertizement from FlyGlobespan in the Go section of todays Hamilton Spectator.

Hope to see more of the over the next 8 months or more. Some billboards would be nice too around the city.

[LikeHamilton]

Just as an FYI, there was an advertizement from FlyGlobespan in the Go section of todays Hamilton Spectator.

Hope to see more of the over the next 8 months or more. Some billboards would be nice too around the city.

There are now radio ads running for Flyglobespan.

[the dude]

check out ottawa's airport thread. wouldn't that be nice?

[Hammer Town]

^^ Link?

Also What radio stations have you herd the FlyGlobespan Adds on?

I herd one on AM900 CHML tonight. I actually thought it was kinda nice.

[LikeHamilton]

^^ Link?

Also What radio stations have you herd the FlyGlobespan Adds on?

I herd one on AM900 CHML tonight. I actually thought it was kinda nice.

102.9 K-lite

[LikeHamilton]

Work has started on expanding the check in area of the terminal by removing the curved wall to the east of check in. I hope to get some pictures next week.

[Hammer Town]

Hey I saw on airliners.net that some of the flights in Economy are sold out to London Stanstead woo hoo. I actually checked the FlyGlobespan website site and its infact true. Several Things have changed including the fact that they advertise it as Hamilton International Airport as oppose to Toronto Hamilton International Airport. When you book through the Canadian Website.

www.flyglobespan.com

This is awesome.

[SteelTown]

38 days until Flyglobespan starts business at YHM!

Good to see it's now Hamilton International Airport instead of Toronto Hamilton International Airport lol. Personally I don't care just as long the airport is thriving with business even if it means attaching Toronto's name to it. Hell why not attach Niagara Falls as well.....Toronto Niagara Falls Hamilton International Airport lol.

[Hammer Town]

They have also finnaly gotten there first 757 sercured and Registered, They were having difficulties with this before.

[YYCguys]

And how the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport is sold in the UK.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9913/yhmtorontoadga4.jpg

I find this so strange. I know that the Brits identify their London airports like this (ie: London Gatwick, Stanstead, etc) but it's odd to see the airport attached to Toronto like this. I guess the Brits wouldn't be able to understand where Hamilton is. But the airport is owned by the City of Hamilton, right?

[SteelTown]

City owns the Airport but Tradeport, which YVRAS (Vancouver Airport) now owns, manages Hamilton Airport.

[SteelTown]

Does DHL do cargo business with Hamilton Airport?

I get loads of dry ice packages everyday at work and most come from YHM expect FedEx (says Mississauga on the label). With DHL it says YHM on the label.

I always choose Purolator over FedEx at work lol. Boo to FedEx.

[Hammer Town]

Does DHL do cargo business with Hamilton Airport?

I get loads of dry ice packages everyday at work and most come from YHM expect FedEx (says Mississauga on the label). With DHL it says YHM on the label.

I always choose Purolator over FedEx at work lol. Boo to FedEx.

Yes DHL serves YHM, well sorta. The flight comes from Toledo Ohio with DHL Packages on it but the flight is actually operated by Cargojet.

Fedex no longer flies there items through YHM its all done through YYZ(Toronto)

[LikeHamilton]

Found some renderings of the proposed new passenger terminal at Hamilton International Airport. They show what the airport was to look like by 2005. The pictures are not very detailed as when they where given out the final details where not worked out. I apologize about the picture quality. This is from a poster and it glared in all types of light. If the sun comes out this week I will try to photograph it outside.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5465/img2779nw2.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9913/img2776pw2.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6816/img2781ri5.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5678/img2780kd0.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3046/img2782os6.jpg

:D

[SteelTown]

That looks a lot better. I'm assuming this is what it'll look like after phase 3? The oval shape in the middle anything to the right of it is part of phase 2 correct? I'm guessing if everything is successful we could see phase 2 beginning.

I like how they show WestJet using the jet bridges at Hamilton Airport. Hopefully in the near future the Airport will go ahead and look like what's in the rendering.

[SteelTown]

Hamilton's airport, the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport, is owned by the City of Hamilton and managed by the TradePort International Corporation. It is Canada's largest inter-modal freighter airport and services all major Canadian and international destinations. It is considered by many to be a key economic driver for the City of Hamilton. Today's announcement of ACAP funding will provide the $1,053,000 needed to purchase an airport fire-fighting vehicle.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/April2007/02/c9333.html

[raisethehammer]

too bad...that looks like a real airport.
Lots of glass and high ceilings. Life in Hamilton......

[Hammer Town]

Too bad they couldnt get more from that Fund to buy the Land for the Rwy Expansion.

As Fas as the Terminal goes that could still happen. Especially in FlyGlobespan continures to Sell out its flights to and from YHM.

[LikeHamilton]

Some of my earlier picture where of quieter times. Here is the line up for security during a Sunday afternoon rush hour.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4994/img2824mw0.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1584/img2825uj9.jpg

[raisethehammer]

haha...classic. I guess they didn't want people seeing those pictures - "avoid the hassles of Toronto, fly Hamilton."

[SteelTown]

Looks like Tim Hortons is a big hit lol, you can see another line up for it.

[LikeHamilton]

Actually the lines moved very fast and once your past security it is only steps to your plane and not mile/KM like at Toronto YYZ.

[Hammer Town]

Its a busy little place.

Greato too see, A lot of these flights this summer if not all will be sold out.

Some flights aren't even book able because they are full. less than a month now.

[LikeHamilton]

TradePort International Corporation Introduces New Board



Wednesday, April 4, 2007 – HAMILTON -- Richard Koroscil, President and CEO. of the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport (hi), is pleased to announce the appointment of Edward A. Minich, Chartered Director and Instructor, DeGroote School of Business; Glenn McCoy, Vice President, Finance and Chief Financial Officer of Vancouver Airport Authority; and Coleen Rogers, Vice President, Operations of YVR Airport Services to the Board of Directors of TradePort International Corporation. Returning to the Board are Ron Foxcroft, Chairman and Founder of Fox 40 International and Chairman and CEO of Fluke Transportation Group Ltd and George Casey, President and CEO of YVR Airport Services. Mr. Foxcroft is the Chairman of the Board.

“This is a good news story for Hamilton,” said Koroscil. “We are thrilled to have such a dynamic group representing the airport. Ron Foxcroft and Edward Minich are known for their community mindedness and are well-respected business leaders in the Greater Golden Horseshoe. With many years of aviation experience, Glenn McCoy, Coleen Rogers and George Casey bring a wealth of industry-related knowledge to the Board. Not only do we have the continued support of YVRAS, but also the commitment of further investment in Hamilton International Airport. We welcome each of our new and returning board members and look forward to the great things ahead.”

Vancouver Airport Services (YVRAS) is the sole owner of Tradeport International Corporation, which holds a 40 year lease with the City of Hamilton to develop, manage and operate the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport. YVRAS is North America’s leading global airport investment, management and development company with 18 airports in 7 countries that process almost 27 million passengers annually. Since 1995, YVRAS has successfully managed 19 seamless airport transitions from public to private management. Every airport is unique and global experience is used to bring world-class operating standards and commercial success to airports in vastly different competitive and cultural environments.

“We have a strong vision for our network and that vision involves Hamilton,” said George Casey. “YVRAS has invested more money in Hamilton than in any other city where we operate. We are committed to growing Hamilton International Airport and we have a proven 10-year track record here. YVRAS is truly looking forward to building upon our current successes with hi.”

[LikeHamilton]

The airport will start using Hamilton Limo to provide 2 buses (size unknown) to provide to and from downtown to the airport service. This is the service that the HSR is not providing. It should start around May 1. Last minute details are being worked out but apparenly the buses have been ordered.

[Hammer Town]

Good news on the Bus service. I wish they would just get Regular HRS though as it would make it easier to work out there.

[SteelTown]

So are these buses going to run like HSR buses or just shuttle to certain areas like Airport to GO Station?

I noticed Ryanair is now doing transatlantic fights to the US. So perhaps one day Ryanair will serve Canada and you know YHM will be looked at seriously.

[SteelTown]

I noticed in one thread it mentioned that Air Canada is having a big sale this summer from Toronto to Ottawa and Montreal, $11 one way. It also mentioned Hamilton is part of this deal. But I tried looking online and I can't find any deal.

I know WestJet is doing the same but I think it's only for Toronto Airport, to Montreal and Ottawa.

[FFX-ME]

no thats impossible 11?$?

[SteelTown]

It's true I just dont' know if it includes Hamilton Airport with Air Canada as well.

Fares plunge at Air Canada, WestJet

It's a good time to book airfare in Canada, with rival airlines Air Canada and WestJet offering competing promotions in a bid to win over consumers.

Air Canada on Tuesday dropped its prices on select routes to $11 one-way to match bargain prices offered by rival airline WestJet, said Peter Fitzpatrick, a spokesman for Montreal-based Air Canada.

On Tuesday only, an $11 ticket could be bought for flights between Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal

"It was WestJet who put out an announcement two days ago announcing they were going to do it and typically what we do is we do match," Fitzpatrick said. "We always say we will remain competitive in all the markets we fly."

WestJet has also dropped its prices to $29-$49 on select routes, which Air Canada is also matching, Fitzpatrick said

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/04/18/aircanada-westjet.html

[FFX-ME]

OMG im gona fly to to just for fun this summer. are there specific dates

[zerokarma]

I wish there was cheap fares to out west as well, planning to go over to Alberta/B.C. soon.

[FFX-ME]

where did you get that info man, i cant find any 11$ flights

[SteelTown]

Go to Air Canada's or WestJet's website and pretend to book a flight online. You'll find the $11 deal well booking a flight. It's real.

[Hammer Town]

Just a heads up that once you factor in all the Taxes its not that cheap.

[flar]

Still pretty cheap, but unfortunately this deal isn't offered in Hamilton, just Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal.

[FFX-ME]

the cheapest flights are 29 or 59$ not 11$

[WZ1]

the cheapest flights are 29 or 59$ not 11$

Take off, airmiles, snack service and a couple other options and it ends up being 11$ .. try and book it.. you will see.

[flar]

I think the sale is over, because the other day I could book flights for $11, but now the cheapest seems to be $29

[LikeHamilton]

More flights from Hamilton, from today's Spec 20Apr07

Richard Koroscil, president and CEO of John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport, revealed the airport has some high-flying innovations.
Look for a new shuttle service to the airport from hotels and the GO station to coincide with flyglobespan’s
Hamilton-Britain flights, starting May 1, said Koroscil.
And pack for more Florida destinations from the airport next winter — including Tampa, St. Petersburg and Fort Lauderdale. Las Vegas, too!

:yes:

[SteelTown]

Whoa direct to Las Vegas?! Not a trip to Calgary then Las Vegas?

[FFX-ME]

yo i checked, if you do all the deductions it does come down to 12$. but goes up to about 70$ for the fees. Westjet comes up to 65$ with the fees.

[SteelTown]

Fuel farm planned at airport
Apr 19, 2007

The president of Tradeport International hopes to have a fuel farm in place near the airport by the end of the year. Richard Koroscil told councillors last week that the airport only has less than half a day’s supply of fuel on site and he wants to move quickly on the project which is being developed by a consortium of airlines.

"We’re working with them to form a fuel consortium which will be all of the airlines getting together to build a facility, a storage facility which at the end of the day really reduces their operating costs as well", Koroscil explained, noting the presence of a pipeline near the section of highway six that runs past the airport.

"It’s still early in their design stage, but they would like to have this facility up and running before the end of this year."

Glanbrook councillor Dave Mitchell is enthusiastic about this new kind of farming in the agricultural area surrounding the airport. "That’s a real good news story for all of us,” he declared. “being able to take massive amounts of trucks off our highways and be able to hook into the Enbridge pipelines which is right there."

He also said the Mount Hope community was “very, very supportive”. A potential hitch in the plans may be the firefighting capability associated with the airport. A fire in the early 1990s engaged over 600 firefighters from 47 units in a two day battle that consumed 3 million gallons at a fuel storage and dispensing facility Denver, Colorado.

[LikeHamilton]

Hamilton Airport is hosting a launch event for Flyglobespan on May 1st at the Warplane Heritage Museum. It is by invitation only and they will have a Flyglobespan plane there. It is from 2 to 4 pm and you should be able to get a good view of the plane from the East Cargo Road going to the UPS building.

Key Speakers at the Launch will include:

Hon. Jim Bradley, Ontario Minister of Tourism
Michael Upton, Deputy Consul-General, British Consulate-General Toronto
Fred Eisenberger, Mayor of Hamilton
Richard Koroscil, President and C.E.O., John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport
Stephen Elmy, Regional Manager - North America, Flyglobespan

They will even have free transport to Hamilton International from Union Station for the people from Toronto who may get lost finding Hamilton.

I am trying to get invited to this event. I do have friends in low places. Even if I can’t get invited, I will be up there to take pictures.

[Hammer Town]

Hamilton Airport is hosting a launch event for Flyglobespan on May 1st at the Warplane Heritage Museum. It is by invitation only and they will have a Flyglobespan plane there. It is from 2 to 4 pm and you should be able to get a good view of the plane from the East Cargo Road going to the UPS building.

Key Speakers at the Launch will include:

Hon. Jim Bradley, Ontario Minister of Tourism
Michael Upton, Deputy Consul-General, British Consulate-General Toronto
Fred Eisenberger, Mayor of Hamilton
Richard Koroscil, President and C.E.O., John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport
Stephen Elmy, Regional Manager - North America, Flyglobespan

They will even have free transport to Hamilton International from Union Station for the people from Toronto who may get lost finding Hamilton.

I am trying to get invited to this event. I do have friends in low places. Even if I can’t get invited, I will be up there to take pictures.



Hey where did you hear about this? Im actually in the process of trying to get a Media Pass for May 1st. Shoud know by this week, However thanks for letting me know about getting some good pics.

[LikeHamilton]

Hey where did you hear about this? Im actually in the process of trying to get a Media Pass for May 1st. Shoud know by this week, However thanks for letting me know about getting some good pics.

From a person who had been invited to this event and they where nice enough give me a copy of their invite.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Vegas would be a great destination from service from YHM--traffic to Las Vegas is exploding--here in Windsor people are constantly going thanks to low-priced package deals and ease of service from Detroit. The Vegas and FL should work fine from YHM--WJ seems to have done okay with their route to MCO. Any idea what the source of these services will be--one of the larger carriers like Transat or Sunquest coming in with a bigger presence?

[Hammer Town]

I would be suprised if it wasn't westjet.

[transitguy]

Any chance for the GTAA to take over Hamilton and run all the charters from there?

[HAMRetrofit]

The GTAA has their own agenda to develop a 2 billion dollar tax payer funded airport in Pickering with a massive supply of employment lands. Acknowledging the potential in Hamilton would likely devastate their scheme.

[LikeHamilton]

Any chance for the GTAA to take over Hamilton and run all the charters from there?

Not really. Hamilton International Airport (hi) is owned by the City of Hamilton and is managed by Tradeport International Corporation under contract for 40 years (30 left). Tradeport is 100% owned by YVRAS (Vancouver Airport Services). They recently purchased the balance of the shares of Tradeport. Most of the senior management and more than half of the Board of Hamilton International Airport (hi) are from YVR. YVRAS owns or operates 18 airports and maybe as big or bigger company than GTAA.

[LikeHamilton]

NEW Airport Shuttle Service



Wednesday, April 25, 2007 – HAMILTON -- Richard Koroscil, President and CEO of the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport (hi), is pleased to announce the new hi shuttle service which is set to begin May 1, 2007.

The hi shuttle will provide an important link between the airport, downtown Hamilton hotels and the Hunter Street GO Station. Shuttle fares will be $12.50 one way and $20 round trip.

“Our customers have told us that they want more ground transportation options and we are excited to be delivering through the hi shuttle program,” said Koroscil. “Introducing the hi shuttle coincides perfectly with the May 1st launch of flyglobespan, our new UK air carrier partner offering daily flights to and from 13 UK/Irish destinations.”

The hi shuttle service will be provided by Hamilton Limo, a first rate transportation company, owned by Henry Mizzi and Marcus Rosen.

“We are very pleased about offering the hi shuttle in partnership with Hamilton International Airport. Hamilton Limo looks forward to offering visitors a professional and economical ground transportation alternative between the airport and the downtown amenities,” said Rosen.

The City of Hamilton’s Economic Development Department and Hamilton International Airport each contributed seed funding towards the implementation of the new hi shuttle program to help ensure its success.



Further information about the hi shuttle service can be obtained by visiting www.hishuttle.com or calling 905-296-3629.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1430/hishuttlevansfm3.jpg

The buses will be hourly from 5 am to 8 pm from the GO Station and 5:35 am to 8:35 pm from the airport. Airport employees with identification are to receive a discounted monthly rate of $65.

:cheers:

[SteelTown]

Did you watch the news? They showed the shuttle bus. Nice exterior!

[Hammer Town]

Good news, hopefull they have good ridership to keep it going. Its going to be a pretty exciting day in 6 days.

[Hammer Town]

I got my invite today for the media event on tuesday.

Likehamilton how have you made out?

[SteelTown]

The shuttle service.....
http://www.flyhi.ca/images/hishuttlevans.jpg

[LikeHamilton]

Likehamilton how have you made out?

I will be there!

[SteelTown]

It looks like Hamilton Airport is being considered for a Jazz expansion to Halifax and Winnipeg........

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/Bonaducci1/jazzexpansion.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2/Bonaducci1/zoomjazz.jpg

This was done in 2005 when soon Jazz announced service from YHM to Ottawa and Montreal.

It would be nice if Jazz serviced Winnipeg to give YHM more Western connection.

[SteelTown]

It's a big day tomorrow! So what times does Flyglobespan land to YHM tomorrow??

[Hammer Town]

^ The first aircraft departing is already here (came a few weeks ago to get cabin retrofits at the airport and possibly a paint job into flyGlobespan colors as it is a leased 757-200 from Icelandiar) and a second is to arrive at 4:20pm from somewhere in the UK. Then they depart about the 8 oclock hour not to sure exactly to where I dont have time to look at the schedules. Apparently they dont increse to 3 flights a day till july 1st.

I will post more tonight when i get home as i have some other details unless someone beats me too it.

Happy Flying :)

[LikeHamilton]

This is schedule for tomorrow and Wednesday. There is only one flight in with passengers as the other aircraft will be there for the official kick off at 2 pm in Hamilton.

Arrives in YHM

1-May Doncaster/Sheffield to Hamilton GSM 183 16:20
1-May Manchester to Hamilton GSM 103 16:20

Departs YHM

1-May Hamilton to Glasgow GSM 132 22:55
1-May Hamilton to Gatwick GSM 152 22:55
1-May Hamilton to Stansted GSM 166 20:25
1-May Hamilton to Exeter GSM 182 20:25

Arrives in YHM

2-May Exeter to Hamilton GSM 181 16:20
2-May Glasglow to Hamilton GSM 131 20:40
2-May Gatwick to Hamilton GSM 151 21:40
2-May Stansted to Hamilton GSM 165 16:20

Departs YHM

2-May Hamilton to Birmingham GSM 172 20:35
2-May Hamilton to Manchester GSM 104 20:35
2-May Hamilton to Shannon GSM 852 22:00
2-May Hamilton to Dublin GSM 842 22:00

[Hammer Town]

That first arrival is already on ther online FIDS from the airport website, it looks kinda cool.

[SteelTown]

It's a tea party on the tarmac with first U.K. flight arrival

By John Burman
The Hamilton Spectator
(May 1, 2007)

The British are coming on the first transatlantic scheduled flight to land in Hamilton in almost 20 years.

flyglobespan.com, Britain's fastest growing airline, begins service connecting Hamilton to 13 British destinations today.

The first load of passengers -- from Doncaster/Sheffield airport -- lands in Hamilton at 4:20 p.m. Two flights to Britain will depart this evening.

Stephen Elmy, Canadian manager for the Edinburgh-based carrier, says all three inaugural flights are full.

flyglobespan flies from Britain to various locations in Europe.

Hamilton airport plans a "fire truck welcome," spraying water jets over the top of the first plane.

[SteelTown]

Local air service to U.K. takes off

By John Burman
The Hamilton Spectator
(May 1, 2007)

John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport takes a huge step across the Atlantic today.

flyglobespan.com, the internet-based discount airline voted Airline of the Year by the Scottish BAA in 2005, will inaugurate its three times a day service to 13 British destinations today.

The thrice daily service -- which offers economy flights as low as $99 one way not including taxes -- will be offered from May to October using Boeing 757s and similar planes.

Stephen Elmy, flyglobespan's Canadian manager, says the airline "will have a winter schedule, certainly to the major cities" but it is liable to be only one or two flights a day.

It's been nearly 20 years since the airport handled jets bound for Britain, a service lost when Nationair closed down operations here in August 1989.

Richard Koroscil, president of TradePort International which operates the airport, says Hamilton worked quietly over 18 months to land the new carrier.

Koroscil and Elmy say Hamilton's major advantage is cost.

Landing fees at Pearson International in Toronto can be $10,000 depending on the plane. Hamilton's are about $4,000.

"It costs one third to land a big plane in Hamilton, what it costs in Toronto," says Elmy.

Then there's the taxes. Add them up and taxes in Hamilton work out to about $130 less per seat.

And every dime counts. Elmy and analysts say there is something of a fare war going on over the Atlantic this summer as Airtransat, Zoom Airlines and flyglobespan duke it out.

"I've seen some fares one way out of Toronto for $74," says Elmy.

flyglobespan offers a cheap, economy seat with less luggage allowance for $99. The airline offers more expensive premium and business class seats.

Hamilton airport plans a welcome tea party for flyglobespan featuring plenty of food, the pipes and drums of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders of Canada, lots of sun and dignitaries on the tarmac from 2 to 4 p.m.

[SteelTown]

So I guess Flyglobespan will indeed stay with YHM all year around now that it plans a winter schedule.

[SteelTown]

This is so cool....

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a382/hammer396/flights.jpg

[Hammer Town]

Steeltown
I saw that last night and get pretty excited.

They have today departures up on the Departure screen.

Pretty good stuff.

[LikeHamilton]

First flight is on it's way!

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6752/gsm103bg4.gif
Airline Flyglobespan
Flight Number 103
Departure City (Airport) Manchester, England, Great Britain (EGCC)
Departure Time 05/01/2007 02:23 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Hamilton, ON, Canada (YHM)
Arrival Time 05/01/2007 03:54 PM
Remaining Flight Time 04:36
Aircraft Type Boeing 757-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 556 mph
Flight Status In Flight

[SteelTown]

Oh cool it's in air! Near Iceland.

Make sure you take plenty of pictures!! I hope all of this will lead to an airport terminal expansion in the near future.

[SteelTown]

Is the International terminal complete? Did they manage to finish building the new section of the terminal before flyglobespan arrival?

[Hammer Town]

ok guys I have to telly ou about today however i odn't have the time right now. I will post asap.

[LikeHamilton]

flyglobespan aircraft at Hamilton International Airport (YHM)
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http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/img2971ac6.jpg

Fire Trucks ready for the welcoming.

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The new Hi Shuttle at the airport.

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flyglobespan checkin counters.

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The new Ground Transportation Services desk. It opened today.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9291/img3005ig6.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/681/img2969nd5.jpg

:D

[SteelTown]

Flyglobespan lands at YHM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a382/hammer396/flyglobe.jpg

[Hammer Town]

Ok so Iw as at the press confrence nothing terribly exciting happened there jus tyour typical media event where Governtmet officials and ceo give speeches

However i get to have a terminal tour. this was probably the best part. For anyone tha thas flown international through YHM they have probably to been overly impresses with the International Arrivals area. well. they are really moving forward with the construction of this area. They havn't been able to get it finich yet bt its coming.

Right now you have to go through customes etc they kinda of go outside and then go into the main terminal to do anything else ie Rent a car grab a coffee etc. Basically tou have to go around the Customs office. Well when essicially is happening it the customs office is moving down towards the end of the new building they have constructed and that area where the customs office is now will be opened up and passengers will come out of baggage claim through thee right into the main concourse. additionally they will be doing quite a bit of cosmetic work inside the arrival area for international flights. They also plan to install shifting baggage belts so one of he domestic belts can swing from either area domestic of international.

Now incase anyone is wondering what is happening with any mojor terminal expansions they dont intend to do one major project all at once. Its all going to be completed in stages as is needed. The reason for this is that there is always so much uncertanty in the aviation world that they don't want to start a major project then have another airline all of a sudden have a major reduction in service like a certian unmentionable airline.

Anyway thats about the best stuff I hear that hasn't really been herd of before.

[Hammer Town]

Some of My Pictures from Yesterday


Passenger Airline Tails of YHM
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Two FlyGlobespan Aircraft on the Ramp
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One FlyGlobespan Aircraft on the Ramp and a second one being moved over to prepare for flight to Glasgow Scotland
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[SteelTown]

I saw the Robert Q Airbus today! They must be doing really well since I saw it twice along Queen St.

[SteelTown]

Hamilton International Airport welcomes flyglobespan

On Tuesday 1 May, 2007 John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport hosted a gathering of dignitaries, guests and representatives of the media to celebrate the arrival of the first flyglobespan flight into the airport this season. The event took place at the Airport and the adjoining Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum, in keeping with the theme of the event.

Attendees included the Hon. Lawrence Cannon, Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities, the Hon. Jim Bradley, Ontario Minister of Tourism, Michael Upton, Deputy Consul-General, British Consulate-General Toronto, Fred Eisenberger, Mayor of Hamilton and Alex Heron, VP Canada flyglobespan. The flyglobespan plane was greeted by the Hamilton Airport Fire Department and the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (LP). Guests enjoyed a traditional British High Tea and tea tasting – all to the accompaniment of Highland Dancing.

Flyglobespan has become one of the largest and most popular airlines in the UK. Its first flights herald the arrival in Canada of one of the most successful examples of the low cost airline model that has opened up the skies over Europe in recent years.

The Hon. Lawrence Cannon, Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities announced in November of last year, a new International air policy, the Blue Sky policy. “Our Blue Sky policy aims to give Canadians more choice and more opportunities to fly to the places they want to go,” said Minister Cannon. “It will allow more airlines like flyglobespan to establish new services, it will create more opportunities for Canadian carriers to expand internationally and it will enable airports, such as the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport, to market themselves around the globe with greater freedom”.

Hamilton International Airport (hi) has been carefully chosen over Toronto Pearson as flyglobespan’s Canadian base in Ontario. “We are very proud to be chosen by flyglobespan, as this validates the ease of use and time savings advantage that hi offers compared to Toronto Pearson,” said Richard Koroscil, President and CEO, John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport. “We’re offering more destinations and services than ever before and we’re extremely pleased to have flyglobespan as our newest partner.”

The benefits of small convenient regional airports, as opposed to congested big city alternatives, were also highlighted by Stephen Elmy, Regional Manager - North America for flyglobespan. “Regional airports help keep costs down and it’s quick and easy for travelers to arrive closer to their actual destination.” He added, “Flyglobespan may be new to Canada, but we’re well-known in the UK. We fly from there to over 20 European destinations and have now added destinations in the US and South Africa to our network. Once Canadians arrive in the UK they have the potential to explore not just the UK, but Europe as well. In fact London Stansted is the home of the $10 ticket to Europe.”

Michael Upton, Deputy Consul-General, British Consulate-General Toronto was amongst the welcoming party for the new flights. He emphasized the convenience of the regional airport destinations in the UK. "Flyglobespan's network helps passengers to reach their destination directly in the UK. It will greatly benefit tourists seeking to cover several areas of the country, because Globespan's flexibility allows them to fly into one airport and out of another. Moreover, the increased options of regional airport links, and low fares will encourage even more visits by friends, family, and also make new business connections". Upton went on to highlight the target of welcoming one million visitors to the UK from Canada during the next few years.

The Hon. Jim Bradley, Ontario Minister of Tourism, who was also in attendance, had his eyes firmly set on the passengers arriving in the other direction. “Ontario hosts more than 415,000 visitors from the UK each year making this our largest overseas market,” said Minister of Tourism Jim Bradley. “This is a great opportunity for us to expand and develop our regional tourism market in this area.”

[SteelTown]

Pickering can go ahead with its new airport
Kevin Werner, Mountain
(May 4, 2007)

The federal Transportation Minister says growth patterns don't indicate holding back constructing the Pickering airport for the benefit of the Hamilton International Airport.

Lawrence Cannon refused to say this week during the launch of Hamilton International Airport's new airline flyglobespan at the Wartime Heritage Museum, the Conservative government will curtail the development of a new airport in Pickering.

"The studies have not indicated" that future economic and democratic growth is concentrating in the Golden Horseshoe and around the Hamilton area, he told reporters.

"(The Pickering option) is still there down the road," he said. "What we want to be able to do until we get there is to continue to develop and promote our policies and those polices obviously have positive steps and consequences."

He said once the demographic and economic studies "come to full fruition we will make the appropriate decision when the time comes."

For the last three years Hamilton officials and Hamilton International Airport representatives have been urging the federal government to quash the Pickering airport development and put more resources into the Hamilton Airport as the most viable secondary airport location in Southern Ontario.

They have pointed out that transportation, demographic and economic trends reveal a more viable airport in Hamilton.

The Ontario government in its "Places to Grow" document identifies Hamilton as a growth opportunity, city officials point out. It means funding will flow to develop the city's transportation options such as the airport.

Richard Koroscil, president and chief operating officer of TradePort International reiterated the airport's position that the federal government has to be made aware by the municipality that Hamilton International Airport is the most economically viable location compared to Pearson International Airport or to Pickering.

[SteelTown]

flyglobespan takes off with flights to the United Kingdom
Kevin Werner, Ancaster News
(May 4, 2007)

Even before one of their 757s had even touched down at Hamilton International Airport, flyglobespan airlines officials were hailing their UK flights from the city a commercial boon.

"It's already a success," said Stephen Elmy, regional manager for flyglobespan earlier this week during the airline's launch party at the Hamilton Warplane Heritage Museum complete with bagpipes and highland dancers.

"It's been astounding," he added. "It's been beyond our wildest imagination. We're very, very pleased with the response."

Mr. Elmy said, as Hamilton Airport officials and guests enjoyed tea and crumpets during an afternoon news conference this week, airline officials are preparing to announced in a few weeks extending its service throughout the winter.

"And then we will come back full bore, probably in a bigger way come next April, May (2008)," he said.

The low-cost, web-based airline, which was established in 2002 in Europe, is providing three flights per day from the Hamilton Airport between May and October. The first two flights on its 757 planes, which carry about 189 passengers, May 1 were already filled, and Mr. Elmy said he expects all flights to be booked by the summer. Flyglobespan is flying to 13 destinations including London, Manchester, Glasgow, Dublin, Ireland, Edinburgh, Scotland, Birmingham and Liverpool. The lowest cost for a flight is $99, one way economy, with seats also selling for $129 and $399 business class, also one-way.

Mr. Elmy dismissed any possibility flyglobespan will end up like other airlines which have a successful launch in Hamilton, then a few years later leave the city.

Westjet, and Jetsgo, either ended their flights after high expectations, or in the case of Westjet moved to Pearson International in Toronto. Flyglobespan, based out of Edinburgh, left Pearson and established Hamilton as its eastern hub because of the low cost, easier transportation access and convenience for customers.

"I expect to be standing here two to three years from now talking to you about our continued success," said Mr. Elmy.

Flyglobespan is not a new company, officials say. It has been in the flight business for 20 years and recently has been associated with Air Transat. The company also flies to 20 destinations from the UK.

Richard Koroscil, president and chief executive officer of Hamilton International Airport, said other airlines are keeping a close eye on flyglobespan's operations in Hamilton.

"There has been a reluctance (among other airlines) to come this way," he said. "Now that flyglobespan is here there are a lot of people kind of wondering, looking at the cost advantage flyglobespan will have over them."

[SteelTown]

So when can we expect Hamilton Airport to face a major airport terminal expansion?

[raisethehammer]

we can expect it to go out of business if Pickering goes ahead.

[SteelTown]

If they ever do allow a Pickering Airport a) it'll probably take 20 years to pass the whole process and b) bankrupt the GTAA

[Hammer Town]

Pickering can go ahead with its new airport
Kevin Werner, Mountain

(May 4, 2007)
The federal Transportation Minister says growth patterns don't indicate holding back constructing the Pickering airport for the benefit of the Hamilton International Airport.

Lawrence Cannon refused to say this week during the launch of Hamilton International Airport's new airline flyglobespan at the Wartime Heritage Museum, the Conservative government will curtail the development of a new airport in Pickering.

"The studies have not indicated" that future economic and democratic growth is concentrating in the Golden Horseshoe and around the Hamilton area, he told reporters.

"(The Pickering option) is still there down the road," he said. "What we want to be able to do until we get there is to continue to develop and promote our policies and those polices obviously have positive steps and consequences."

He said once the demographic and economic studies "come to full fruition we will make the appropriate decision when the time comes."

For the last three years Hamilton officials and Hamilton International Airport representatives have been urging the federal government to quash the Pickering airport development and put more resources into the Hamilton Airport as the most viable secondary airport location in Southern Ontario.

They have pointed out that transportation, demographic and economic trends reveal a more viable airport in Hamilton.

The Ontario government in its "Places to Grow" document identifies Hamilton as a growth opportunity, city officials point out. It means funding will flow to develop the city's transportation options such as the airport.

Richard Koroscil, president and chief operating officer of TradePort International reiterated the airport's position that the federal government has to be made aware by the municipality that Hamilton International Airport is the most economically viable location compared to Pearson International Airport or to Pickering.






I dont this the pickering plan is viable at all unless they close Pearson which isn't going to happen. I see Pickering as another Mirabel. If they ever do build pickering it will be for far down the road that YHM should be established even more then it already is becoming.

As far as Terminal expasion at YHM I happened to be at the Press Confrence for FlyGlobespan and was actually able to ask Richard Koroscil a few questions as well as get a tour with a AIrport official of the terminal.

So Mr Koroscil mostly said its a build it as they come sort of this becuase they do want to announce a big terminal plan then have an airlines pull out or something similar Tehy look to ahve the Runway 24-06 and flight kitch as well as the fuel farm in place by 2012-2015

Well i was on the terminal tour it was just me so i kind of got the royal treatment. I was anything the public would see with out being a passenger except I go to go into the International arrivals area it just a very basic structure however he explained to me what it will look like once the finish the construction they are doing in there now they also had an artist rendition on the wall that looked quiet nice.

After they He went on to say that Hey plan to extand the departure lounge out more towards the ramp then enlarge the arrivals area for domestic and international. once they have done they will start to build up also in differant phases.

I think I have said all I can remember.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Exactly why raisethehammer, do you think YHM will go out of business if Pickering Airport is built? This time I want you to seriously quantify it--I really respect much of what you have to say, but the truth is, on a group of issues--the airport included--you are consistently negative. You have your own website and the main Hamilton development blog nearly to yourself and to those who are like-minded--this airport thread is about the positive growth and development of YHM--with the pervasiveness of attitudes like yours it's frankly amazing the airport has come so far, so fast.

When you prove to me that the majority of passenger traffic at YHM is coming from the east side of Toronto--that is driving PAST YYZ to come here, then I will agree that Pickering will hurt YHM. Moreover, I will also be alarmed if the entire population of YHM's catchment area up and moves eastward--until such time I have faith that the airport will CONTINUE to succeed. Just two weeks ago our local paper The Windsor Star, ran a front page article on the boom in growth at YHM, in past months The Buffalo News has run a similar story. Given the wide array of flights and destinations available at YYZ, I'd frankly like to see someone prove to me what the hell will make Pickering so damn viable. From a passenger standpoint, Toronto City Centre is only marginal, and past attempts at running commuter service from Buttonville have failed.

[raisethehammer]

Exactly why raisethehammer, do you think YHM will go out of business if Pickering Airport is built? This time I want you to seriously quantify it--I really respect much of what you have to say, but the truth is, on a group of issues--the airport included--you are consistently negative. You have your own website and the main Hamilton development blog nearly to yourself and to those who are like-minded--this airport thread is about the positive growth and development of YHM--with the pervasiveness of attitudes like yours it's frankly amazing the airport has come so far, so fast.

When you prove to me that the majority of passenger traffic at YHM is coming from the east side of Toronto--that is driving PAST YYZ to come here, then I will agree that Pickering will hurt YHM. Moreover, I will also be alarmed if the entire population of YHM's catchment area up and moves eastward--until such time I have faith that the airport will CONTINUE to succeed. Just two weeks ago our local paper The Windsor Star, ran a front page article on the boom in growth at YHM, in past months The Buffalo News has run a similar story. Given the wide array of flights and destinations available at YYZ, I'd frankly like to see someone prove to me what the hell will make Pickering so damn viable. From a passenger standpoint, Toronto City Centre is only marginal, and past attempts at running commuter service from Buttonville have failed.


Why would Pickering have a negative impact here??
Go ask the folks at YHM that have been leading the fight against it for years.

[SteelTown]

Look at what I found during the forum meet.....

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[fastcarsfreedom]

Tradeport's main case for fighting Pickering has always been about steering more government dollars to YHM and environs, and not about a sudden shift in population eastward. Aside, given your past comments about the airport, it's amusing now to see you more or less quoting Tradeport on this issue.

[raisethehammer]

I guess I should do this myself, but since I won't, please refresh my memory as to what I've ever said about YHM that is so rotten?
i'm skeptical about whether it can hold carriers (as many people are given the history), and I'm skeptical about the fact that the GTAA and Feds are more interested in the pickering option.
I'd love to be able to do all of my flying from here instead of toronto. If I ever posted comments wishing the airport would blow up and be gone I don't remember when.

[BCTed]

I guess I should do this myself, but since I won't, please refresh my memory as to what I've ever said about YHM that is so rotten?
i'm skeptical about whether it can hold carriers (as many people are given the history), and I'm skeptical about the fact that the GTAA and Feds are more interested in the pickering option.
I'd love to be able to do all of my flying from here instead of toronto. If I ever posted comments wishing the airport would blow up and be gone I don't remember when.

I will back you up on this one, raisethehammer. I am pretty certain that you have never posted comments wishing the airport would blow up and be gone.

[raisethehammer]

lol...thanks.
i generally don't say much about the airport...the crazy aerotropolis thing was worthy of discussion, but I hope the passenger stuff at YHM grows and does fabulous.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Actually, in saying that you don't hope the airport blows up I think you've said the most positive thing you've ever said. In the past, ever small step and success has been met with skepticism, doubt, and negativity. Your response that the airport will "go out of business" if Pickering is built is typical of your responses. Ugly terminal, too small, etc, I could go on. We've had these debates before--in the past, on other forums--at the very least I'd expect you to own up to your negative attitude about the airport. If I implied that you wanted the airport to disappear, I was incorrect in doing so--I've never believed that. I do however believe from your previous posts that you hold it's future in low regard--you've made that clear.

[fastcarsfreedom]

May 11, 2006 in response to a discussion about airport terminal renovations/expansion...

that goofy little thing is what council wants to pin all our future job creation hopes on??? heaven help us.

[the dude]

aerotropolis...don't start with that! i'm not so sure that's really the topic of discussion here. anyway, it's ok to wish the airport success without supporting that particular initiative.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Given that I'm out of the loop somewhat on Aerotropolis--what was the major issue on that initiative in terms of opposition? This particular concept has been applied elsewhere with some success (Alliance Airport in Fort Worth Texas, for instance), and in my area, Wayne County (MI) is looking at an aerotroplis concept for the area immediately adjacent to Metropolitan Detroit Airport (granted, one of the busiest airports in the U.S.)--just curious--was it environmental--feeling that those lands in Glanbrook were better in pastoral use?

All acidity aside, I'm curious.

[flar]

I think the opposition to the aerotropolis is based on 1)expands the urban boundary (sprawl), 2)thus necessitating municipal servicing to new land while brownfield sites and existing serviced land sit empty 3)uses up valuable farmland, 4)"peak oil" could mean the aerotropolis never reaches its potential.

The aerotropolis land is west of the airport, around the newly built Hwy 6 bypass. This existing bypass is designed to be twinned into an expressway complete with ramps and overpasses when demand warrants.

[HAMRetrofit]

Why is Hamilton completely against creating employment areas close to its airport? This seams ridiculous most airports encourage this type of development to build a more sustainable client base. If you look into the Seaton plan it incorporates an entire planned community near the Pickering airport including employment land and green space.

I am very unclear on Hamilton's initiatives for intensification and job growth under the Places to Grow policy, which specifically indicates airports and the hinterlands surrounding them as places for future employment.

There is a big difference between urban sprawl and a comprehensive plan that outlines how the actual airport lands are going to grow in a sustainable manner. The brownfields are not a comprehensive growth strategy because their developed reuse will always be tied to port activity and will fail to address employment opportunities in new clusters.

[LikeHamilton]

I spent the weekend in London and checked out their airport. It is surrounded by all kinds of new airport development of all type. Kitchener-Waterloo Airport just recently had 10,000 acres of land rezoned for development around it. Why can we not see that here? Most of the land around Hamilton Airport is owned by developers and leased back to the farmers.

[flar]

London just upgraded Airport Rd. (now Veteran's Memorial Parkway) into a divided highway, which can be converted to a controlled access freeway someday. It's basically the same setup that Hamilton will have, a freeway spur off a major highway that leads to an airport surrounded by a vast industrial park. London already has theirs built, and even has a couple industries moved in.

The Hamilton Aerotropolis is the best chance for Hamilton to attract industry. I would like to see the brownfields redeveloped but the reality is that industry will only locate on nice fresh land beside major highways. There's not anything we can do about that. If we don't build the aerotropolis here, the industries will continue to locate in places like London. Even Brantford has two large new industrial parks along the 403 that are doing quite well.

[SteelTown]

Take a look at Pittsburgh all their industries on the riverfront are gone and now companies relocated on green space. The East Harbourfront days of being an industrial park is dying, nothing can last forever.

The biggest issue facing Hamilton is jobs and yet we sit around keep debating and debating over and over with endless supply of studies on how to attract new jobs, yet the solution is quite simple thanks to the provincial government that built that new 403 bypass to the Airport. Prime land next to the Airport and 403 just sitting all alone.

[SteelTown]

One of the first companies I could see locating at the Airport is laboratory equipment/supply companies such as VWR, Sigma, Invitrogen, Fisher, etc. Hamilton is growing into a research and medical city and so far all these supplies come from the GTA like Whitby, Oakville and Mississauga.

Most of these supplies get shipped to Hamilton Airport than to Whitby, Oakville, Mississauga and then finally back to Hamilton like McMaster.

[HAMRetrofit]

^exactly

As an outsider the answer to Hamilton's employment problems is so apparent

Jane Jacobs says it best, 'cities grow by grace of import replacement'.

'Import replacement occurs in the regions surrounding a city where goods and services are brought in, their Hinterlands.'

[Hammer Town]

We Need to get these lands serviced ASAP we needs these employment alnds and these jobs. This Peak Oil stuff is rubbish ya Oil is going up but that doesn't mean that companies are going to stop shipping items around the world via aircraft. Saying companies are going to stop using aircraft to ship goods is like says people are going to resort back to Horse and Buggie. Beside aircraft are becoming more fuel effciant all the time.

Some companies are fine with Brownfeild development but some require new space even more so beside an airport.

[LikeHamilton]

I do not understand what the problem is with the lands that need to be designated as industrial.

In Hamilton;

We should never say no to any developer who needs land because we should have it all.
We have waterfront for those people who want it for transportation or just like the look of waterfront.
We have/should have Brownfield’s for the companies who like to be in built up older areas.
We have downtown/core lands and vacant buildings for developers and companies.
We have community areas that have lands and buildings available. Who care if they go to Waterdown, Ancaster, Stoney Creek or Ottawa Street so long as they build in or move to Hamilton?
We have existing industrial parks with vacant lands and buildings already built for rent.
We need more highway land for the companies that need and want that type of land.
We need airport land for the companies that need/want/like that type of lands.

We should be in a position to never say no to any developer/company that wants to come to Hamilton. Anyone who comes to Hamilton brings jobs and construction work to Hamilton. Even if it is just minimum wage jobs, that is better that welfare and unemployment.

:???:

[the dude]

We Need to get these lands serviced ASAP we needs these employment alnds and these jobs. This Peak Oil stuff is rubbish ya Oil is going up but that doesn't mean that companies are going to stop shipping items around the world via aircraft. Saying companies are going to stop using aircraft to ship goods is like says people are going to resort back to Horse and Buggie. Beside aircraft are becoming more fuel effciant all the time.

Some companies are fine with Brownfeild development but some require new space even more so beside an airport.

you might want to bone up on the whole peak oil topic. the US reached peak oil 35+ years ago and have been fighting for it ever since. we are fast approaching the day when demand outstrips supply worldwide. i won't get into the details of what happens next but feel free to read-up on the topic. geologists know it, oil execs know it. it's time for other people to face facts, too. besides, what have we been told would be the resulting employment on these lands? warehousing? please. i'll contain my excitement for now.

[the dude]

I do not understand what the problem is with the lands that need to be designated as industrial.

In Hamilton;

We should never say no to any developer who needs land because we should have it all.
We have waterfront for those people who want it for transportation or just like the look of waterfront.
We have/should have Brownfield’s for the companies who like to be in built up older areas.
We have downtown/core lands and vacant buildings for developers and companies.
We have community areas that have lands and buildings available. Who care if they go to Waterdown, Ancaster, Stoney Creek or Ottawa Street so long as they build in or move to Hamilton?
We have existing industrial parks with vacant lands and buildings already built for rent.
We need more highway land for the companies that need and want that type of land.
We need airport land for the companies that need/want/like that type of lands.

We should be in a position to never say no to any developer/company that wants to come to Hamilton. Anyone who comes to Hamilton brings jobs and construction work to Hamilton. Even if it is just minimum wage jobs, that is better that welfare and unemployment.

:???:

unfortunately minimum wage isn't better than welfare. that's the problem.

[HAMRetrofit]

When warehouse or logistics facilities are built around the periphery of the city it initiates a large complex process of city economics. The jobs may seem irrelevant at first not creating influential economic activity. However they are connected to larger economic systems. For example if a storage warehouse is opened in the hinterlands it creates jobs for basic laborers. The functions of the warehouse are to store goods. These goods are imported from elsewhere. Overtime it becomes more economical to manufacture goods in the city, which in turn leads to more jobs in the periphery as more 'import replacers' move in. The result of this new import replacement is that jobs are created for the creative class (designers) and financial class (bankers), which typically happens in the core (downtown). These hinterlands need to be well connected to infrastructure because their primary goal is to exchange goods between the central city and other surrounding cities (this is what makes the highway 6 and 403 interchange ideal). Highways are the preferred shipping method and will be at least for the next 30 years until peak oil in Canada actually takes effect. Canada is a net oil producer and is not expected to peak in oil production until 2035 with the availability of the tar sands. Past Canada’s oil peak new energy infrastructures will be in place, which is already being planned for (this is obvious since the feds are already planning a new airport in Pickering). I am generalizing here but for a much more complete description of how the economics of cities work read Jane Jacobs 'Cities and the Wealth of Nations'. There are a few other books I could recommend but Cities and the Wealth of nations is the most fundamental.

[the dude]

that's fairly optimistic and clairvoyant but so be it. i'll never buy into aerotropolis because, knowing this city, the land will be serviced and losani will move in, put up some sh*t houses and we'll left shaking our heads...again. that's what i figure this is really all about. i also hate the idea of paving over the finest agricultural land in this country. it all seems a little backward to me.

[Hammer Town]

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[Hammer Town]

We might as well service these lands anyway and get some money out of them because if we run out of oil we are all screwed anyway so whats the differance.

[raisethehammer]

May 11, 2006 in response to a discussion about airport terminal renovations/expansion...

that goofy little thing is what council wants to pin all our future job creation hopes on??? heaven help us.


I do recall that conversation...I also remember someone posting images of terminal buildings in London and Ottawa to which I replied I wish we would build something similar to theirs.
I also recall several others agreeing that our terminal is a joke.
If you can't even admit that the terminal building is lame then I understand more clearly why you think I'm negative.
Hop on a few flights to anywhere in the developed world and you'll have a hard time finding a terminal as pathetic as ours.
Forgive me for wishing we had something better.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Firstly, I would argue, your failure to recall a statement you made doesn't absolve you of it--though the world is filled with politicians who wish that were not the case.

Secondly, I would argue--our airport's terminal is far from pathetic. It could certainly be better, it could be larger, and there could be a wider array of service from YHM--I agree with you there. Folks who live closeby to the airport could also stop driving to Pearson when they could jst as conveniently and econmically fly from here, on the same airlines. I have discussed to the point of exhaustion that the airport was hamstrung by the Liberal government of the early 1980s who designed it to fail. In SPITE of that, it has grown, prospered and thrived. I believe there is also a hint of arroganc