[yakumoto]

San Jose, long accused of being one of the most auto centric cities on the west coast, has been ablaze in a rapid inner city growth spurt, and has become one of the most, if not the most, urban cities on the west coast. In fact, it has some of the densest census tracts outside of northeast urban centers.

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo1.jpg

Its been said by many noted scholars that other cities (LA, nudge nudge) should take a page from San Jose, when implementing their light rail systems.

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo2.jpg

Now San Jose can boast that it is one of the most pedestrian friendly cities in California.

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo3.jpg

If I didn’t know better, I would have a hard time believing this was even an American city, lol!

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo4.jpg

San Jose doesn’t have a homeless problem like Los Angeles or San Francisco, because we actually believe in taking care of our citizens.

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo5.jpg

I hope you enjoyed the tour!!

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo6.jpg

[M II A II R II K]

In this forum you must establish specifically that you personally took those pix.

[yakumoto]

In this forum you must establish specifically that you personally took those pix.

I did.

[fflint]

This is the best photo thread I have ever seen--anywhere. Thank you so much not only for these beautiful, well composed photos, but also for your brilliant and enlightening commentary.

[LMich]

I think "Location: Drunk" explains everything. lol

[mhays]

Very funny!

[fangorangutang]

Ahahahaha....

[Derek]

you have enlightened the world with your stories

[suga]

LA will beat the shit out of san-jo if they ever met in an octogon match, no question.

[elsonic]

lots of airplanes and pedestrian activity!

[arbeiter]

This is great!
The town that Norman Mineta built.

PS: i love mansex and coke too, but I also have F*CKING BRAIN!

[BuildCTPlace]

San Jose, long accused of being one of the most auto centric cities on the west coast, has been ablaze in a rapid inner city growth spurt, and has become one of the most, if not the most, urban cities on the west coast.


Having been in SJ a few years ago, I would actually say it's the most urban city in North America. The streets downtown were bustling with pedestrians, and the light-rail cars were so crowded I could barely get on. And you just can't beat their lively nightlife scene!!

[blade_bltz]

Indeed, the urbanity that is San Jose extends all the way up the Peninsula around my neck of the woods, only stopping somewhere around Daly City - a wretchedly suburban wasteland if I've ever seen one.

[BigKidD]

San Jose doesn’t have a homeless problem like Los Angeles or San Francisco, because we actually believe in taking care of our citizens.
I can concur with this statement mildly.

[raggedy13]

Now San Jose can boast that it is one of the most pedestrian friendly cities in California.

Fascinating stuff. Not that I doubt its urbanity, but couldn't you have posted pics with some people in them then? Where are all the people in these...?

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo3.jpg

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo5.jpg

[BTinSF]

Where are all the people in these...?


Most of them became homeless after the tech crash in 2000 and moved to San Francisco to collect the higher "General Assistance" benefits offerred there. They are now living in cardboard boxes somewhere on mid-Market St.

[CGII]

Milwaukee is more exciting than that. You want to tell me San Jose can take LA and SF?

[excel]

Cool pictures.

[dcmcgov]

San Jose is Bakersfield with an advantageous location.

Geez... Tulsa, Oklahoma is more exciting than San Jose.

[glowrock]

Good god, how did I miss this thread last week? Yep, San Jose freaking RULES!!! :)

Aaron (Glowrock)

[AJphx]

haha

well I was a bit surprised by that pic of downtown. It appears to be more developed than the glassboxes surrounded by parking lots downtown that I expected.

[RockHillJames]

I was in San Jose two weeks ago.

Even the homeless have cars there.

[urban_encounter]

Fascinating stuff. Not that I doubt its urbanity, but couldn't you have posted pics with some people in them then? Where are all the people in these...?
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo5.jpg

Those are the people....

In case you missed it here's another pedestrian.

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/assrapist/Downtown/Sanjizzle/SanJo3.jpg

On the bright side, at least there's nobody walking around littering the pristine streets and sidewalks.

[yakumoto]

Fascinating stuff. Not that I doubt its urbanity, but couldn't you have posted pics with some people in them then? Where are all the people in these...?


I took these pictures on a Sunday evening, most people are either in church or donating their time to help build houses in low income communitites.

San Jose is Bakersfield with an advantageous location.

Geez... Tulsa, Oklahoma is more exciting than San Jose.

The main difference between San Jose and Los Angeles is the lack of knee-jerk boosterism coming from four or more forumers.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Wow. I must have missed the news that San Jose was a beta world city.

[ArchMadness]

Great thread. I haven't laughed this hard in a good while.

[Buckeye Native 001]

What...

the...

hell!?

[glowrock]

I took these pictures on a Sunday evening, most people are either in church or donating their time to help build houses in low income communitites.



The main difference between San Jose and Los Angeles is the lack of knee-jerk boosterism coming from four or more forumers.

Have I entered the Twilight Zone in this thread? Please, tell me you're NOT being serious!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[Buckeye Native 001]

What if you don't like mansex? Or coke? :shrug:

[Kevlar1981]

San Jose is quite a disappointing place, especially with cities like San Fran, Oakland, and Berkeley nearby. I hope it comes into it's own soon. The high tech capital of the world should look more exciting. Ever been to Akihabara?

[mhays]

Just a swath of SF's suburbia. Not a city.

[Goody]

I took these pictures on a Sunday evening, most people are either in church or donating their time to help build houses in low income communitites.

:haha: LOL :haha: :haha:

[dimondpark]

It must be really difficult to maintain one's modesty when describing how it is to live in the omnipotent, everlasting light of the world, also known as San Jose....guess Im just not worthy enough to handle it all....perhaps one day.:D

[flar]

hilarious

[glowrock]

:haha: LOL :haha: :haha:

Haha, yep... Hell, even Dover's more interesting than San Jose! :haha:

Aaron (Glowrock)

[dcmcgov]

The main difference between San Jose and Los Angeles is the lack of knee-jerk boosterism coming from four or more forumers.

You're right. Just add four or more forumers to San Jose, shake well and you have instant L.A. Right. That, plus 200 more years of history, about 11 million more people, an actual downtown, 100 or so skyscrapers, twice the density, global significance, cultural influence, etc.

But other than that, L.A. and San Jose are completely identical. What was I thinking?! :)

Seriously, I love the bay area, but San Jose is pathetic. Take the least dense, least creative, least architecturally significant portion of the San Fernando Valley (Chatsworth, Canoga Park, Reseda & West Hills) and drop it in the bay area. That's San Jose.

[giovanni sasso]

FANTASTIC, all the way around.

[Goody]

Haha, yep... Hell, even Dover's more interesting than San Jose! :haha:

Aaron (Glowrock)

:cheers: Even Rochester is :yes:

[glowrock]

:cheers: Even Rochester is :yes:

I agree, and I've only been through Rochester a few times, mainly while visiting my friend in Dover... ;)

Aaron (Glowrock)

[CGII]

The main difference between San Jose and Los Angeles is the lack of knee-jerk boosterism coming from four or more forumers.

Post of the year. :haha:

[sbarn]

Although I grew up in the Bay Area, I'd definitely admit San Jose is far from a model city. That said, I think many of you are being quite hard on the place. About 6 sh**ty photos are posted and it seems everyone jumps on board claiming its hell on earth. :shrug:

[CGII]

I have nothing against the photos, I have a thing against those who believe San Jose is a 'soon to be alpha world city,' that will overshadow SF and LA in its omnipotent greatness and perfection.

[urban_encounter]

About 6 sh**ty photos are posted and it seems everyone jumps on board claiming its hell on earth.



Well I wouldn't exactly call the photos "sh**ty"...

That may be just a tad harsh.


It's just that the photos aren't exactly capturing the the best side of the soon to be "Alpha world city".

<ahem>

[yakumoto]

The main difference between San Jose and Los Angeles is the lack of knee-jerk boosterism coming from four or more forumers.
You're right. Just add four or more forumers to San Jose, shake well and you have instant L.A. Right. That, plus 200 more years of history, about 11 million more people, an actual downtown, 100 or so skyscrapers, twice the density, global significance, cultural influence, etc.

But other than that, L.A. and San Jose are completely identical. What was I thinking?! :)

Seriously, I love the bay area, but San Jose is pathetic. Take the least dense, least creative, least architecturally significant portion of the San Fernando Valley (Chatsworth, Canoga Park, Reseda & West Hills) and drop it in the bay area. That's San Jose.

My quote and his response? No one else sees the humor?


CAN DOVER AND ROCHESTER BOAST A LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM FOR RAPID TRANSIT BETWEEN PARK AND RIDE LOTS ALL ACROSS TOWN!?!?!?

[mhays]

I assume that this is all one big joke by yakumoto! He's just trying to get a rise out of people, or maybe laughing at this own city.

[CGII]

I assume that this is all one big joke by yakumoto! He's just trying to get a rise out of people, or maybe laughing at this own city.

I can't tell.



But can San Jose boast this?

http://www.mrx.no/albums/San-Francisco/San_Francisco_Skyline.sized.jpg

[urbanflyer]

San Jose is quite a disappointing place, especially with cities like San Fran, Oakland, and Berkeley nearby. I hope it comes into it's own soon. The high tech capital of the world should look more exciting. Ever been to Akihabara?

Nothing even remotely resembling Akihabara will ever come to pass in San Jose. Or Los Angeles. Or the US for that matter.

[Goody]

CAN DOVER AND ROCHESTER BOAST A LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM FOR RAPID TRANSIT BETWEEN PARK AND RIDE LOTS ALL ACROSS TOWN!?!?!?

Nope :) but Dover at least is interesting and lively

Rochester- meh its the ghetto saying anything postive about it would be lying

Edit: (I lied Dover does have a park and ride, for the down easter, into Boston and Portland... anyways)

[Kevlar1981]

Nothing even remotely resembling Akihabara will ever come to pass in San Jose. Or Los Angeles. Or the US for that matter.

True, but I can dream. I just think San Jose needs some pretty glass skyscrapers and some neon. I know it'll never be like Akihabara.

[plinko]

Consider that Phoenix is only about 1/2 as dense on average as this....

[Derek]

:cheers: Even Rochester is :yes:

Rochester is sick!;) (in a good way)

[mello]

This thread was obviously a joke and it was a pretty damn good one.

[Goody]

Rochester is sick!;) (in a good way)
the one in NH? ;)

[krudmonk]

Just a swath of SF's suburbia. Not a city.
Most suburbs have more people and jobs than their core cities. You're so right.
You're right. Just add four or more forumers to San Jose, shake well and you have instant L.A. Right. That, plus 200 more years of history, about 11 million more people, an actual downtown, 100 or so skyscrapers, twice the density, global significance, cultural influence, etc.

But other than that, L.A. and San Jose are completely identical. What was I thinking?! :)

Seriously, I love the bay area, but San Jose is pathetic. Take the least dense, least creative, least architecturally significant portion of the San Fernando Valley (Chatsworth, Canoga Park, Reseda & West Hills) and drop it in the bay area. That's San Jose.
Even if the rest of your childish tirade was correct, how do you figure the history part? Prehistory is obviously not documented (hence the name) so I guess you're judging by Eurocentric standards. Well then, LA was settled by Europeans in 1781. By my count, that's four years after San Jose was founded in 1777. Maybe your math says that's two hundred years before, but mine says otherwise. Also, LA just passed 4 million, not 11.

Both of you should learn to take a joke, too. No one outside the San Francisco bubble would actually compare the two cities.

[Austinlee]

OMG hahahhaahaha! This is the funniest shit ever. I almost pissed myself reading the commentary! Nice work!

[Top Of The Park]

Hmmmm???

[mhays]

Most suburbs have more people and jobs than their core cities. You're so right.


You might not like it, but it's true.

Go to any metro and draw two circles: a 47 square mile circle around Downtown, and a 178 square mile circle around the main suburban job concentration. I bet the suburban circle contains more jobs and residents the vast majority of the time. I also bet it's less dense than the central circle most of the time. Just like in your case.

San Jose was a small city that got enveloped by the San Francisco metroplex. Now it acts as its own small city in some ways, but it's a million people because it's an extension of greater SF.

[ady26]

To become an Alpha world city, San Jose will take a long time!

[krudmonk]

You might not like it, but it's true.

Go to any metro and draw two circles: a 47 square mile circle around Downtown, and a 178 square mile circle around the main suburban job concentration. I bet the suburban circle contains more jobs and residents the vast majority of the time. I also bet it's less dense than the central circle most of the time. Just like in your case.

San Jose was a small city that got enveloped by the San Francisco metroplex. Now it acts as its own small city in some ways, but it's a million people because it's an extension of greater SF.
No, that would imply that San Joseans and others from the valley travel up north to work in the bug booming job market of San Francisco. Proximity does not always connote any sort of significance.

The tech boom was largely independent of San Francisco. You can pull some strange argument about job density (because it's totally relevant) if you want to. Hell, I've seen others argue that a San Franciscan founded Stanford University and that college was [70 years later] responsible for many tech advancements and thus meant that Silicon Valley was a San Francisco burb. In the end, it all just looks desperate.

What it boils down to is that most people down here aren't influenced by SF on a daily basis. Google even has shuttles which bring down hundreds of workers from San Francisco every day. I know people up there who commute to Mountain View, Cupertino and San Jose for work, too. That seems like an awfully backwards core/burb relationship, no? You'd have a better chance arguing that SJ is a suburb of the rest of Silicon Valley since it loses daytime population due to the commute.

In the end, though, it's still not a world city (as per the joke) so why grasp for straws in disproving such a claim? Also, this is a photo thread/forum so we should probably shouldn't be arguing anyway.

[totheskies]

I have to give it an A+ for the hype factor. It worked for Enron for a long time, so why not SJ??? ;-)

[tdawg]

???

[tdawg]

that place looks completely unremarkable. Is this high sarcasm?

[HomeInMyShoes]

I've read this thread at least a hundred times and it gets funnier EVERY TIME I READ IT.

[rriojas71]

After I first read this thread I thought Yakumoto was being serious and trying to promote his city as most of us do on this forum, but after reading through all the posts and the narratives I'd have to say that this post was made with a sarcastic tone. (At least, I'm hoping that's what his/her intentions were).

I mean the pictures are such an oxymoron to the narrative that there is no way this person can be taken seriously.

[Complex01]

:previous:

Here, here, i agree. If anything made me smile and on a bad day...

:D

[Chelsea Spy]

Irony darlings, irony! :haha:

I love it! :banana:

Great thread :jester:

[Western Spaghetti]

HeHe! very funny.

Obviously this is a joke.

[the Misanthropist]

If I didn’t know better, I would have a hard time believing this was even an American city
OK, let's not get carried away.

[rajaxsonbayboi]

okay i just have to say wow. i live pretty close to san jose and i dont believe its all that interesting. but its not as bad as people say it is. the pictures really doesnt do it justice. san jose though has a long way to go to be as interesting as say sf, oakland, berkley, and other cities in the bay area. and its downtown is pretty much a joke. one person mentioned that he couldnt find room on the light rail. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i rode the light rail for over a month every week day during high traffic and i ALWAYS found room to sit. its nothing more than a more populous fremont with more freeways and businesses.

[mthq]

Alpha World City eh? Forget my planned trip to San Francisco, I think I'm gonna book a 1 week vacation at that Marriot pictured and enjoy the sights and sounds of San Jose.

[BigKidD]

Alpha World City eh? Forget my planned trip to San Francisco, I think I'm gonna book a 1 week vacation at that Marriot pictured and enjoy the sights and sounds of San Jose.
You could stay in San Jose and take Caltrain up to the City. Anyway, San Jose's downtown is not too bad, but people should not expect it be like Union Square or Powell & Market with lots of people and activities.

[Raraavis]

I flew in and out of San Jose a few weeks ago on a business trip (the airport is currently a sh*thole due to major construction). The city and surrounding area up to and including Silicon Valley is an ugly sprawling mess. If there is attractive pedestrian friendly urban areas of the city please post pics because I missed them on my trip

[stepper77]

If you wanna see more pics of San Jose, you can see my thread here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2997751).

And no, San Jose is not the worst city in the US. Not even the worst in California. Downtown actually has some nice places and, even if the ridershipship isn't huge now, I credit San Jose for having the forsight of putting a light rail at all. The city just needs more time to get there. Having said this though, San Jose sometimes holds itself in more prominence then it should. The city alone is not Silicon Valley. Even a lot of the bigger tech firms, save Adobe, are located in Santa Clara, Palo Alto, Mountain View, up the peninsula, and even Fremont. So, San Jose maybe at the "heart" of Silicon Valley, but, it is merely a part of it. And perhaps I'm mistaken, but, didn't a lot of the money used to start a lot of these tech firms in the Silicon Valley come from VC firms in San Francisco?

[dimondpark]

Very Low Crime.
Very Wealthy Residents.
Very Highly Educated Residents.
Racially and Ethnically Diverse.
Excellent Outdoor Amenities.
Excellent Job Opportunities.
Lots of Culture and A wide variety of things to do.
Not far from San Francisco and The Ocean.
Near Perfect Weather.

San Jose...you SUCK!

[krudmonk]

Very Low Crime.
Very Wealthy Residents.
Very Highly Educated Residents.
Racially and Ethnically Diverse.
Excellent Outdoor Amenities.
Excellent Job Opportunities.
Lots of Culture and A wide variety of things to do.
Not far from San Francisco and The Ocean.
Near Perfect Weather.

San Jose...you SUCK!
As long as we rank behind San Francisco in anything, we always will suck!

Proximity is a bitch sometimes...

[boden]

This is the biggest alpha thread that never was............................................................................................................
I like it.

[richardofmystery]

Most suburbs have more people and jobs than their core cities. You're so right.

I assume you don't mean that San Jose has more jobs than San Francisco, do you? Because that isn't accurate. As of the last census San Francisco had a little over 200,000 more jobs than San Jose. San Jose has more actual residents, yes, but it also covers four times the land area. If Oakland were to expand its boundaries to match San Jose's, it would also have more people than San Francisco. But that wouldn't change the fact that San Francisco is the central city in the region. Any more than Queens having a million more people than Manhattan changes the fact that Manhattan is the center of New York.

And before you say that the jobs in SF are all in tourism:

VISA
Barclays Global Investors
Wells Fargo
CNET
Ubisoft America
Dolby
Technorati
Yelp
Six Apart / Typepad
Gymboree
Mac / PC World
Salon
Mother Jones
Wired
Del Monte
California Supreme Court
9th Circuit Court of Appeals

are just some of the companies and organizations based in SF. I could go on, of course.

Aside from San Francisco having more jobs, there are also more people in the city at any given time due to tourists and commuters (while San Jose is the only US city of more than 500,000 people to lose population during the day when people go to work). Plus the budget for the city of San Francisco is roughly double the budget for San Jose.

Now that doesn't make San Jose a suburb of San Francisco (it is, as you said, a suburb of Silicon Valley if it's a suburb of anything). It just means that San Francisco is the primary and central city in the region, and that shows no signs of changing anytime soon.

[mhays]

Well said.

[krudmonk]

If I'm wrong about the "more jobs" thing, it's certainly not by 200,000. According to 2006 data (which lists SJ at 929K and not the new 973K) San Jose loses 5.6%* of it's population due to daily commute while San Francisco gains 21.7%**. Doing that math, that's nowhere near 200,000. I was initially led to believe that number of jobs dictated listing order in CSA naming. For example, it is now the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland combined statistical area. It hasn't been such since 1990, though, when SJ passed SF in population.

And where did the rest of these words come from? Certainly not my mouth. Disproving suburb status does not equate to proving supremacy in the region. Who cares if SF is the focal point of the region? That was never my point. You swooped in to defend the city against phantom attacks. Good job.

And just so you know, companies like Mac World and CNET have name recognition but they don't employ that many people.

*http://www.city-data.com/city/San-Jose-California.html
**http://www.city-data.com/city/San-Francisco-California.html

[nickcarey]

Northern Californian cities with population densities higher than San Jose:

Modesto
Santa Clara
Davis
Mountain View
Citrus Heights
Sunnyvale
San Leandro
Alameda
South San Francisco
Oakland
San Mateo
Berkeley
Daly City
San Francisco

[richardofmystery]

If I'm wrong about the "more jobs" thing, it's certainly not by 200,000. According to 2006 data (which lists SJ at 929K and not the new 973K) San Jose loses 5.6%* of it's population due to daily commute while San Francisco gains 21.7%**. Doing that math, that's nowhere near 200,000. I was initially led to believe that number of jobs dictated listing order in CSA naming. For example, it is now the San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland combined statistical area. It hasn't been such since 1990, though, when SJ passed SF in population.

Combined Statistical Areas are based solely on population (except in the case of Washington D.C. - Baltimore). Metropolitan Statistical Areas are based on jobs and commuting patterns. That's why the SF - Oakland Metro includes SF, San Mateo, Alameda, Contra Costa and Marin counties, while the San Jose metro only includes Santa Clara county.

I was using 2000 census data, because year-by-year census estimates are usually not accurate. Looking at this data, a 21.7% gain for San Francisco and a 5.6% loss for San Jose can certainly equal around 200,000 more jobs in San Francisco. The reason for this is that San Francisco's under 18 population is significantly lower than San Jose's (San Francisco has a lower ratio of children as a percentage of the total population than any major city in the US), while the 18-65 population for both cities is virtually the same. In other words, using 2000 census data:

SF - 776,7333 X 0.217 = 168,551
SF 18 to 64 - 557,820 + 168,551 = 726,371

SJ - 894,943 * 0.056 = 50,117
SJ 18 to 64 - 584,959 - 50,117 = 534,842

Difference = Roughly 191,529 more jobs in SF

All statistics come from http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov

Aside from this, total commuters to downtown SF in 2000 (financial district only, which is only part of downtown) equals 320,300.

Total commuters to downtown San Jose (which I realize is not the hub of San Jose activity) equals 44,200.

These numbers were taken from http://www.mtc.ca.gov

And where did the rest of these words come from? Certainly not my mouth. Disproving suburb status does not equate to proving supremacy in the region. Who cares if SF is the focal point of the region? That was never my point. You swooped in to defend the city against phantom attacks. Good job.

Just going above and beyond to prove my point. I realize I wasn't refuting you specifically.

And just so you know, companies like Mac World and CNET have name recognition but they don't employ that many people.

Mac World employs several hundred people and CNET employs many more, but your point stands, they are more name recognition companies than job providers. I could have referenced less recognizable companies like Bechtel (largest private company in CA) and McKesson (3rd largest public company in CA), but I didn't. Plus I could have referenced Charles Schwab, Levi - Strauss, GAP, Williams - Sonoma, PG&E, ABM, ILM, and many others, but I didn't do that either.

[krudmonk]

Going by 2000 data may be more reliable in terms of numbers, but those figures seem extremely dated. SJ is being measured at 894K instead of 973K. That's hardly insignificant. Also, city-data shows a daytime population change of +168K people into the whole of SF every day. Obviously that varies greatly from your 320K into the FiDi alone. I find it hard to believe that changed occurred between 2000 and 2006, although the city did apparently lose 22,000 residents in that time so it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Northern Californian cities with population densities higher than San Jose:

Modesto
Santa Clara
Davis
Mountain View
Citrus Heights
Sunnyvale
San Leandro
Alameda
South San Francisco
Oakland
San Mateo
Berkeley
Daly City
San Francisco
Take out Alviso marshlands and the undeveloped Coyote Valley and that list is much shorter.

[richardofmystery]

Going by 2000 data may be more reliable in terms of numbers, but those figures seem extremely dated. SJ is being measured at 894K instead of 973K. That's hardly insignificant. Also, city-data shows a daytime population change of +168K people into the whole of SF every day. Obviously that varies greatly from your 320K into the FiDi alone. I find it hard to believe that changed occurred between 2000 and 2006, although the city did apparently lose 22,000 residents in that time so it's not outside the realm of possibility.

The 320K commuting to the Financial District includes SF residents. So the 168K number is referring to something completely different.

And 2000 numbers may be dated, but they are more reliable. California's own estimates show San Francisco with more than 800,000 people at this point, which seems a more likely number than Census estimates indicate, since most cities losing population do not have a huge demand for housing.

[yakumoto]

ENOUGH WITH THE BICKERING!!!

Lets all just agree to disagree, and accept the fact that San Jose is not only the central city in the Bay Area, it's the basically the central city in California.

Now, some would go so far as to say its the center of the west coast, but I'm not one to make exaggerated and outlandish statements...

[Tom In Chicago]

best thread EVAR!!!

[krudmonk]

ENOUGH WITH THE BICKERING!!!

Lets all just agree to disagree, and accept the fact that San Jose is not only the central city in the Bay Area, it's the basically the central city in California.

Now, some would go so far as to say its the center of the west coast, but I'm not one to make exaggerated and outlandish statements...
Nobody's debating any of that. Anyone who does is just jealous. They wish their town had a Raging Waters.

[richardofmystery]

They wish their town had a Raging Waters.

Wrong again!

According to my always insanely reliable statistics, they wish their town had a life sized Monopoly Board and a Tech Museum of Innovation. See below:

If Y = Jealousy, X = Desire then:

7(Y/8) * (X+(4500/4.3)) = Life Sized Monopoly Board and Tech Museum of Innovation.

I rest my case.

[krudmonk]

Wrong again!

According to my always insanely reliable statistics, they wish their town had a life sized Monopoly Board and a Tech Museum of Innovation. See below:

If Y = Jealousy, X = Desire then:

7(Y/8) * (X+(4500/4.3)) = Life Sized Monopoly Board and Tech Museum of Innovation.

I rest my case.
That's old data. It's before they repainted the slides. Try again.

[wisla_krakow]

Holy shit I hope this is serious.

[mhays]

ENOUGH WITH THE BICKERING!!!

Lets all just agree to disagree, and accept the fact that San Jose is not only the central city in the Bay Area, it's the basically the central city in California.

Now, some would go so far as to say its the center of the west coast, but I'm not one to make exaggerated and outlandish statements...

Well written assuming it was a joke!

[hulkrogan]

This thread is classic. Amazing how far the sarcasm flies over some people's heads. Not the LRT picture? That should have ended your doubts as to whether the OP was serious.

I went to San Jose last November. We caught a Sharks/Flyers game and went out on the town after. We were actually pleasantly surprised. Seemed a lot cleaner and safer than Calgary walking around downtown at night, not that I find Calgary all that dirty or dangerous. Both are of similar size I believe though.

[Derek]

Why isn't this thread closed?

[hulkrogan]

Why isn't this thread closed?

Because it's simply hilarious.