Intown Non-Highrise Development [Archive]

ATLskyline

03-12-2007, 05:46 AM

I decided to start this thread since it seems like there is a multitude of non-highrise development going on right now in the city. These are projects I found mentioned in other threads. I don't get the opportunity to visit this part of town often, so I would greatly appreciate it if those who do could inform me of other projects and the status of the projects on the list. These smaller projects don't get as much press as the high-rise developments, so many of us never hear about them or if we do it is only once. I am going to try to make a map in the coming days to display where all these projects are.

COMPLETE

Central City Condos -
Website (http://centralcitycondos.com/)
http://www.coldwellbankeratlanta.com/newhomes2/graphics/334.jpg
Construction Photo courtesy of Fiorenza
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3276/centralcityconstructionwn4.png

U/C

Armour Lofts - 372 Units
No Website
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9976/armourloftsyi4.png

Eon at Lindbergh - 362 Units
Website (http://www.livinglindbergh.com/)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6647/eonatlindberghvm1.png
Construction Photo
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8210/eonconstructionjh8.png

Renaissance Walk at Sweet Auburn -
Website (http://www.liveatsweetauburn.com/)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2640/sweetauburnxe9.png
Construction Photo courtesy of KCGridlock
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4487/renaissancecontstructioeh2.png

North Highland Steel Lofts - 240 Units
Website (http://perennialproperties.net/perennial-apartments/perennial-apt-nhighlandsteel.php)
http://perennialproperties.net/images2/banners-632x238/p-apt-lg-nhighsteel2.jpg

626 Dekalb - 204 Units
Website (http://www.626dk.com/)
http://www.626dk.com/images/626_article.gif
Construction Photo courtesy of Fiorenza
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/79/626constructionry3.png

Tribute Lofts - 147 Units
Website (http://www.tributelofts.com/)
http://mlsimages.citihomes.com/Photos/18/3388818_0.jpg
Construction Photo courtesy of Fiorenza
http://www.taxangle.com/photos070104/001.jpg

Oakland Park Lofts - 65 Units
Website (http://www.oaklandparkatlanta.com/)
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2425/oaklandparkloftsen4.png

Inman Crescent - 40 Units
No Website
No Rendering

Axis -
Website (http://www.axisdekalb.com/index.html)
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/4809/axismb9.png

Skyline at Edgewood - 12 Units
Website (http://www.skylineatedgewood.com/index.asp)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/3-Gallery.jpg
Construction Photo courtesy of Fiorenza
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/9013/skylineconstructionfm0.png

Ansley on the Park - 6 Units
Website (http://www.ansleyonthepark.com/)
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/7261/ansleyontheparkangle500sl7.jpg

Plexus on Ponce - 4 Units
Website (http://www.plexusonponce.com/default.html)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/final_7.jpg

PROPOSED

Ponce Park -
Website (http://poncepark.com/)
http://poncepark.com/images/ponce4.jpg

Perennial West Midtown Apartments - 340 Units
Website (http://perennialproperties.net/perennial-apartments/perennial-apt-westmidtown.php)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8285/westmidtownaptsrr3.png

The 4th - 337 Units
No Website
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6901/the4thyi8.png

Hill St Condos - 270 Units (two buildings one 6-stories and the other 8)
No Website
No Rendering

City View Condos (Metropolitan Ave near Cleveland Ave/I-85) - (3 7-story buildings)
No Website
No Rendering

222 Mitchell St. -
Website (http://www.222mitchellstreet.com/)
http://www.222mitchellstreet.com/images/image_building_3.jpg

Railside Lofts - 186 Units
No Website
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9136/railsideloftssg1.png

Studioplex Lofts - 130 Units
Website (http://studioplexlofts.com/)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2762/studioplexloftsfy2.png

The Mix @ 841 -
Website (http://www.themix841.com/)
http://www.themix841.com/xsites/Agents/level4info/content/uploadedFiles/Rendering%206.9.2006.jpg

870 Inman -
Website (http://www.inmanparkcondos.com/home.htm)
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/494/870inmanoi2.png

The Lofts at Inman Park Village - 68 Units
Website (http://inmanparkvillage.com/lofts.php)
http://inmanparkvillage.com/images/lofts.gif

Castleberry Point -
Website (http://www.castleberrypoint.com/)
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/9327/castleberrypointkl8.png

565 Boulevard NE (Boulevard @ Boulevard Place) - 29 Units (7-story building)
No Website
No Rendering

Grinnell Lofts - 24 Units
Website (http://perennialproperties.net/perennial-condos/perennial-condo-grinnell.php)
http://perennialproperties.net/images2/banners-632x238/p-con-lg-grinnell2.jpg

Neoterra - 9 Units
Website (http://www.neoterrahomes.com/home.html)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/neoterra_homes.jpg

GThomas

03-12-2007, 04:15 PM

Good post... I think non-highrise intown living kind of gets pushed aside a lot in our discussions on here. How about Eon at Lindbergh? Is that already developed? Here's the site: www.livinglindbergh.com

atlantaguy

03-12-2007, 04:55 PM

GThomas - Eon is under construction. The two tower cranes behind the Lindbergh Station are for Eon.

I really must say I like all of the projects listed - thanks ATLskyline!

I am really liking the Mix a lot. I'm afraid the nimby's in Virginia-Highland are going to derail this one though.

ATLmangum

03-12-2007, 05:03 PM

Great job ATLskyline!!!

Curious Atlantan

03-12-2007, 05:34 PM

I am really liking the Mix a lot. I'm afraid the nimby's in Virginia-Highland are going to derail this one though.

Really? Stupid, Stuuuupid people :-(

atlantaguy

03-12-2007, 06:07 PM

Atlriser

03-12-2007, 08:21 PM

It's the same arguments that were put forth by the neighbors in Grant Park over SPI last fall. The end of the earth to hear them talk. Thank God the neighborhood passed the legislation 5 to 1 though. There's an 8 story project on the south end of Grant Park along Hill Street that was winding it way through city zoning in January. I'll see what info I can get on it to add to your list. The location is at Hill along the beltline crossing on the northside of the rails.

Atlriser

03-12-2007, 08:25 PM

Tribute Lofts is really cool along the portion that faces Boulevard and the city. The south facing portion if going north on Boulevard is HIDEIOUS in my opinion though.

Looks like a 1980's 5 story suburban hotel or something. Geez! Hope they do something to improve the look of that portion with paint or anything. Might as well have window air units below the windows with the way it looks now.

Trae

03-12-2007, 08:56 PM

Great idea for a thread. You see this in a lot of cities, the big highrises are happening, but there are so many infill developments as well.

bwolfe71

03-12-2007, 08:57 PM

I have been following the Mix fight for about a year now and the rumors I am hearing is that they are not raising as much money for the legal fight as they thought. Its been a story of 2 camps there - one of "we want to make this the intown Alpharetta" and the other who really wants some fill in that area (like us!). VAHI is just turning to vanilla so I just bought a place in Castleberry Hill and I am hearing good things for there. One pretty solid rumor is that the CastleberryPoint will be getting a small 'urban type' grocery store and that the owners of Apres Diem / Carpe Diem will be putting their 3rd place in the building also. This is from long standing residents of the area.

Trae

03-12-2007, 09:02 PM

I can give you some renderings from Ponce Park:

http://www.poncepark.com/images/ponce1.jpg

http://www.poncepark.com/images/ponce2.jpg

http://www.poncepark.com/images/ponce3.jpg

http://www.poncepark.com/images/ponce4.jpg

http://www.poncepark.com/images/050811siteplan.jpg

ATLskyline

03-13-2007, 12:58 AM

Thanks everyone. I added Eon at Lindbergh, please let me know about any others you guys might know about. I am also going to divide these into three sections: Complete, U/C, Proposed. So if you have any status updates about any of these projects please let me know.

mayhem

03-13-2007, 06:08 AM

Oakland park is topped out.

ATLskyline

03-13-2007, 06:42 AM

Thanks for the info mayhem.

Here is info for two projects I found.

Armour Loft Apartments, developed by Worthing Companies is a 372-unit loft apartment project located between Midtown and Buckhead at I-85 and Armour Drive.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9976/armourloftsyi4.png
It sounds like Armour Lofts are U/C can anyone confirm this?

The Fourth, developed by Wood Partners, is a planned 337-unit condominium and apartment project located in the “Poncey Highland” neighborhood and in close proximity to Ponce Park Project (City Hall East) and the proposed Beltline. The expected start date is March 2007.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6901/the4thyi8.png

Link to Article (http://www.westplan.com/press-releases/2006-year-end-summary.html)

atlantaguy

03-13-2007, 11:28 AM

Yes, Armour Lofts are under construction. It's almost directly across from Piebar where the old Ramada Plaza used to be.

Atlriser

03-13-2007, 02:07 PM

ATLskyline -- are you focusing on any multi family (condo, loft, apts) or just condos? West Midtown (as it's become) is BOOMING with many many projects for multifamily with alot of them being apartments. Here's one from ajc.com today:

'Rooms with a view' to be built near northwest Beltline area
A 340-unit, high-end apartment complex is in the works for the booming Huff Road area in northwest Atlanta, not far from the future Beltline corridor.
The project, as yet unidentified, is to include 14,000 square feet of retail, possibly several restaurants, said Ken Schrager, president with Perennial Properties.
The 5.5-acre site will include a four-story building, swimming pool, outdoor theater and interior courtyard spaces. The property sits on a high point that will offer views of the Midtown and downtown skylines.
Rental prices will start at $800 a month for a studio and range to $1,300 to $1,500 for two-bedroom units.
Other developers have announced plans to build housing complexes in the area, Schrager said.
"West Midtown has obviously got a lot of momentum right now, with Atlantic Station," he said. "In our opinion, growth wants to stay in. It wants to be convenient. People want to be near where all the activity is."

Also, 3 weeks ago a 3 building 7-stories each complex was announced for Metropolitian Avenue near Cleveland Ave/I-85 -- City View Condos I believe is the name. The area around Cleveland/Lankford/Metropolitian is exploding with 4 to 6 story condo and apts right now and has great city views from lot of locations.

smArTaLlone

03-13-2007, 02:41 PM

Yes, Armour Lofts are under construction. It's almost directly across from Piebar where the old Ramada Plaza used to be.

The North Highland lofts are also already under construction.

smArTaLlone

03-13-2007, 04:23 PM

Here are a couple more

Axis (I believe is already under construction)
website (http://www.axisdekalb.com/)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Axis.jpg

Neoterra
website (http://www.neoterrahomes.com/home.html)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/neoterra_homes.jpg

ATLskyline

03-13-2007, 06:39 PM

ATLskyline -- are you focusing on any multi family (condo, loft, apts) or just condos?

Any Multi-family project.

The list is updated, thanks for the info everyone.

Atlriser

03-14-2007, 08:40 PM

Bidding today is 565 Boulevard NE located at Boulevard & Boulevard Place.

Looks like a 7 story (2 story underground parking) condo building with 29 units (my calcs based on parking counts and looking at blueprints online) with retail on first floor. Appears to be brick exteriors and 2 buildings with some units being 2 story. Looks nice and would be sweet to start seeing Boulevard redevelop moving south toward the Atlanta Medical center and 'clean up' this area.

Andrea

03-14-2007, 10:04 PM

Bidding today is 565 Boulevard NE located at Boulevard & Boulevard Place.

Yay!

I love these low and midrise developments. I'd rather cover 8 blocks with well executed 5 story buldings than one block with a 40 story tower.

With the 8 block plan, you'd also get 35 or so street facades, rather than just 4 with the tower.

daharris80

03-14-2007, 10:20 PM

:previous:
Agreed. But, it's nice to have a central city area with high-rises. The problem, I find with Atlanta's development in the 90s is that the high-rises moved away from the city. This is a result, I'm afraid, of multi-jurisdictional zoning. The city couldn't control what wasn't built in the city- and still can't. I properly zoned city, IMO, includes a central city high-rise district, surrounded by low-rise developments. This enables the density required to make public transportation feasible. The "Atlanta" model is great for building towers- but bad for density- it leads to circles of growth only accessible by car. Our only "hope" now is for the city to grow into it-self- which is why low-rise, high-density is good to see. (Unfortunately, the zoning problems Atlanta Metro has will never be solved- the city/region missed many opportunities in the 60s/70s/80s to form a more modern form of multi-jurisdictional government. The backlash to this missed opportunity, IMO is the urbanization of suburban Atlanta, as seen in Sandy Springs, John's Creek, Milton.)

tomtheastronomer

03-15-2007, 01:49 AM

i read this page all the time, but rarely post. but i have a question for those who are more architecturally savvy than me -

i see lots of midrise buildings going up, like those at atlantic station, and lindbergh, and along ponce, and in capitol gateway, and in bunches of these projects here that have this funny, brightly colored, multilevel blocky style...almost like they were designed with legos, or were normal buildings cut up and put back together oddly. (i hear a lot of people on here complain about it as too fake or silly looking, but as an artist/designer, i really like them.)
i don't travel much (at all) but the few places i have been don't have developments like this. is this part of a bigger architectural trend happening around the country, or is it somewhat local?

alleystreetindustry

03-15-2007, 02:15 AM

i am in love with the ponce park development. but for starters, take a drive down dekalb avenue and watch it grow. i find it depressing to see the old industry be demolished from the area though.

ATLskyline

03-15-2007, 03:07 AM

Alright I added it to the list. I'm still thinking about how to do a map since these projects are spread over such a large area. Maybe like 3 or 4 smaller maps. Any suggestions?

Mitko

03-15-2007, 05:19 AM

Great thread! I live in a townhome in Inman Park Village, so I can see many of these projects just outside of my front door (N. Highland Steel Lofts, IPV Lofts, 870 Inman, Grinnell Lofts). It's pretty incredible the amount of construction that's happening within a block of Highland and Elizabeth in Inman Park in just over two years since I moved to my place. By the way, the rendering for Inman Crescent is not correct. That rendering is merely the final phase of the original group of townhomes along the park. Inman Crescent is a 40-unit townhome phase that's going on vacant land between the Inman Alley development (new Kevin Rathbun Steak restaurant) and the current IPV. The "crescent" refers to a group of townhomes built in a semi-circular shape, similar to the famous buildings in Bath, England. Should be pretty unique once finished.

When N. Highland Steel Lofts and Grinnell Lofts get finished this summer, the whole place should start to take on a little Va-Hi feel, especially with all the street-level retail we're getting. We've heard about Parish, the new Cajun concept from Bob Amick (One Midtown Kitchen, Trois) and the reopening of Sotto Sotto and Inman Perk in new digs.

I also heard from our developer that the land across the street from Fritti and Grape (currently home to Dad's Garage) was bought and will be redeveloped into a mixed-use project with an upscale grocery tenant. We're crossing our fingers for another Trader Joe's!

While Glenwood Park gets all the press for being a new urbanist community, I think Inman Park Village/N. Highland will be just as good in a MUCH better location!

I'll post some pictures here soon of the 'hood.

Chris Creech

03-15-2007, 10:52 AM

Great Post -

Yeah, I think that these sort of things get pushed aside by the buzz on midtown condo highrises - but these probobably represent (as a % of population) much more of the current movement back into town than the highrises.

I see you listed 626 Dekalb Ave., there's actually about 5-6 similiar developments going on all up and down Dekalb Ave. I guess it wasn't considered that desirable a location (you have that view of the MARTA tracks) but all those vacant lots and old shops and warehouses are giving way fast.

I should go out and take some pictures on Moreland - there's lots of intown townhouse development going on. Also there's lot going on around the new Edgewood Retail district.

Has anyone seen the new townhouses going up on the north side of ponce near Biarcliff (between Briarcliff and the Majestic. It's a pretty radical deconstructionist modern design, very sculptural, then just recently most of the front wall was covered with copper panels. I REALLY love it. (I'll have to take a picture.)

I also need to take some more pics at Glenwood. I don't know if anyone has been by lately. But after construction of new homes and properities, sort of ground to a halt (never really stopping though) it's now picked up a lot. The whole section along I-20 has mostly been developed. There's single home, more townhomes, and even a new 5-6 story sort of traditional looking apartment looking building. Before long, I guess there's going to be houses all around the pond.

And for those familiar with the area. There's a really seedy old apartment complex that has been a neighborhood eyesore and source of a lot of crime, etc. It's up against I-20 neighboring the Glenwood Park property and even has acces to Moreland. That has now been approved for redevelopment into new condos. It will be a much denser development than the 50s urburban style garden apartments. It includes a nested parking garage, and larger much nicer townhome buildings.

The NPU was asking they make sure it was not a gated development, and they said they'd never even considered it. They're looking to make it something to complemetn and be in the spirt of Glenwood Park.

Terminus

03-15-2007, 01:23 PM

I also heard from our developer that the land across the street from Fritti and Grape (currently home to Dad's Garage) was bought and will be redeveloped into a mixed-use project with an upscale grocery tenant. We're crossing our fingers for another Trader Joe's!

Don't count on a grocer anymore. The land is too expensive, the height limit too low, and the other site restraints too small to allow for one.

Tombstoner

03-15-2007, 02:10 PM

I see you listed 626 Dekalb Ave., there's actually about 5-6 similiar developments going on all up and down Dekalb Ave. I guess it wasn't considered that desirable a location (you have that view of the MARTA tracks) but all those vacant lots and old shops and warehouses are giving way fast.
...
Has anyone seen the new townhouses going up on the north side of ponce near Biarcliff (between Briarcliff and the Majestic. It's a pretty radical deconstructionist modern design, very sculptural, then just recently most of the front wall was covered with copper panels. I REALLY love it. (I'll have to take a picture.)

The new low-rises along Dekalb Ave. are fine, but I think it's a real shame that so little retail is along this thoroughfare. For folks in the Lake Claire, Kirkwood, Upper Oakhurt, W. Candler Park areas you'ver really got to get into a car to do everything.

But I LOVE those townhouses on Ponce that you mention. VERY cool and edgy without being a parody of 'cool and edgy.' :tup:

Atlriser

03-15-2007, 04:11 PM

daharris80 - I don't think what you are referring to has anything to do with Atlanta's zoning. Houston has no zoning and it's the same. Northern cities have strict zoning and they are the same. That's a function of land costs and the automobile in our time. Cities throughout history show the development style to which you are referring. There are so many variables that contribute to the development of cities and zoning as we have today is a relatively modern day issue pretty much and honestly doesn't affect what you are describing IMO.

Developers and people decide where and what to develop outside of just the zoning ordinances in cities. Yes they tie together but much less so than your implications dictate.

ATLskyline

03-15-2007, 04:26 PM

Has anyone seen the new townhouses going up on the north side of ponce near Biarcliff (between Briarcliff and the Majestic. It's a pretty radical deconstructionist modern design, very sculptural, then just recently most of the front wall was covered with copper panels. I REALLY love it. (I'll have to take a picture.)

I saw a rendering of it last night on Metroscape forum. It looks good.
http://www.plexusonponce.com/images/marketing_final_3.jpg

Trae

03-15-2007, 04:32 PM

One of our members was taught by the architect of that building I believe. I agree with one of our members, in that it looks more like an art museum than a condo/townhome project.

shanthemanatl

03-15-2007, 04:37 PM

The new low-rises along Dekalb Ave. are fine, but I think it's a real shame that so little retail is along this thoroughfare. For folks in the Lake Claire, Kirkwood, Upper Oakhurt, W. Candler Park areas you'ver really got to get into a car to do everything.

But I LOVE those townhouses on Ponce that you mention. VERY cool and edgy without being a parody of 'cool and edgy.' :tup:

I love the copper panels, too---nice touch.

Can those panels be treated in some way to retain the coppery finish, or will they turn green like the crown on One Atlantic Center? I kinda like them the way they are.

Atlriser

03-15-2007, 04:42 PM

I saw the copper over the weekend! Looks great but in less then a week it will be hideous trust me unless it's sealed already some how.

We put copper gutters around the house and few days later the hand prints were nasty looking where installed. Then the 1st rain and they were ugly sh*t brown and have slowly looked a little better every year. Now 5 years later they are finally beginning to look good again and getting the green hues that reflect the copper aging.

I think they do make a sealant you can apply to keep the copper look because I've considered doing my gutters but you have to make sure it's very clean and apply immediately before any pollutants get under the sealant I believe. Anyone else know about keeping that new copper look outside?

smArTaLlone

03-15-2007, 06:40 PM

:previous: That one is called Plexus on Ponce
website (http://www.plexusonponce.com/default.html)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/final_7.jpg

and one more

Ansley on the park
website (http://www.ansleyonthepark.com/)

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/7261/ansleyontheparkangle500sl7.jpg

SteveD

03-15-2007, 07:06 PM

Great new thread!! There's a smallish but nice looking group of townhomes nearing construction completion at the intersection of Moreland and Ormewood Aves, sort of across the street from where I live. Interesting architecture (at least in my opinion!) and built for street level office for the resident, if desired. I'll try to take a pic and post it in here...

That makes two of the four corners of this intersection redeveloped with two more to go! :tup:

(four 0 four)

03-15-2007, 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=smArTaLlone;2691487
and one more

Ansley on the park
website (http://www.ansleyonthepark.com/)
[/QUOTE]

There already is an 'Ansley Above the Park' and now 'Ansley on the Park'...could 'Ansley Adjacent to the Park' be next? How about 'Ansley Sittin' Here at the Park' or 'Ansley Down the Road a Piece from the Park'?

Nice thread, BTW!

smArTaLlone

03-17-2007, 04:27 PM

I saw a rendering of it last night on Metroscape forum. It looks good.
http://www.plexusonponce.com/images/marketing_final_3.jpg

These are the same architects for 752 Moreland which should be completed by now.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/pincfx/Midrise/113634_752_Moreland_Ave.jpg

SteveD

03-17-2007, 10:18 PM

:previous: Yes, that's the development I was referring to in my post a couple posts above, at the intersection of Moreland and Ormewood Aves (2nd photo above). It is about finished..a couple folks have moved in already...

Terminus

03-17-2007, 11:16 PM

scguy

03-18-2007, 04:01 AM

I know townhomes are being built all over the Intown area and there are probably too many projects to even list but one that i just found online is Lullwater Park in Virginia Highlands. Should be 50 ultra luxury townhomes and manor houses.
Also, not in Atlanta but Inside the Perimeter, The Artisan II condos (7-8 floor?) are UC in Decatur, and arent there some fairly cool projects going up in and around Atlanta rd., Grant Park, Chamblee, and in the CampCreek parkway area of South Atlanta, not to forget College Park and East Point.

Chris Creech

03-18-2007, 11:23 AM

I like the Moreland one, but the Ponce development is awful for that site (and I say this as somebody who LOVES modern design). It just sticks out like a sore thumb. They should have at least matched the materials of the adjacent homes in some way, even if the building retained the same form.

I first went back and forth on the context issue with those too. There's some newish condos on the corner there that are more traditional brick.

I think you could almost make the argument though that theres' really no context to work with on that stretch. Most of the houses are crap through there. You do have that great church across the street. Some of that beige brick might have worked nicely in this new buidling with the copper.

That church though does have that beautful green copper dome/roof - I wonder if that actually inspired the front of the new building?

However when I really thought about it, the townhouses on the corner blend in to the point where they're actually sort of boring. Then there's that AWFUL condo on the othe corner that tries to be a loft building and fit into the architectural style of the area - and fails miserably.

The architect could probably make a case that he's bouncing off of the Plaza.

But you know if that Ponce building and the one on Moreland weren't a little "adventurous" we wouldn't even notice twice or be talking about them.

Tombstoner

03-18-2007, 03:34 PM

I first went back and forth on the context issue with those too. There's some newish condos on the corner there that are more traditional brick.

I think you could almost make the argument though that theres' really no context to work with on that stretch. Most of the houses are crap through there. You do have that great church across the street. Some of that beige brick might have worked nicely in this new buidling with the copper.

That church though does have that beautful green copper dome/roof - I wonder if that actually inspired the front of the new building?

However when I really thought about it, the townhouses on the corner blend in to the point where they're actually sort of boring. Then there's that AWFUL condo on the othe corner that tries to be a loft building and fit into the architectural style of the area - and fails miserably.

The architect could probably make a case that he's bouncing off of the Plaza.

But you know if that Ponce building and the one on Moreland weren't a little "adventurous" we wouldn't even notice twice or be talking about them.

I honestly don't mean this to be gratitously snide, but talking about "context" in Atlanta is a little...'optimistic.' WHAT CONTEXT??? This is a city where they're going to plop a 'batteries-not-included' McMonument with NO link to native history, context or even design in the middle of a New Urbanist work-live-play community (and I actually like AS).

Seriously, if Atlanta can claim to have any style, it better be "eclecticism" or "postmodernism" in which context is the least of your concerns. Maybe that's not a bad thing, and I think Midtown is showing how it can be done fairly well, but I think the "context train" left the station long ago...

I personally like Plexus on Ponce--it (and the church) gives the eye something to alight upon on this pretty eclectic stretch of Ponce.

Andrea

03-18-2007, 03:39 PM

Slightly off topic, but I had to do some stuff in the Sandy Springs/Dunwoody area yesterday and it is amazing how many low and midrise projects have been built and are now being built there. Although none of them knock my socks off architecturally I will have to say they are pretty nice. I'm increasingly beginning to think of that area as an extension of Atlanta's urban core. They did their skyscrapers in the 80s, I guess, so now you see the infill coming.

boomtown

03-19-2007, 04:49 PM

Yeah, Curious - They've been fighting it tooth and nail. I have heard: "It's too tall, it will bring in national retail (it's already there), it's too dense, traffic will be awful (it already is)", etc.

I guess they think that nasty surface lot is more charming.

They are presently raising funds for attorney fees to fight it to death. I guess these folks think they live in Mayberry.

Damn nimbys. There are alot of people that just don't want any change unless it is to remove buildings for passive "green space".....and if that happens, don't install lighting (as it will encourage organized events) or benches (as it will encourage homeless sleepers). The NPU system is over-democratized IMO and seems to encourage participation by the angry, suspicious and paranoid....
On a positive note, this is a great thread.....

trainiac

03-28-2007, 06:11 PM

They started demolition on the old National Linen building at 525 Glen Iris. From what I can find it's supposed to be a 338 unit mixed use project called Alta Glen Iris but I don't see a website or picture anywhere online.

Anybody know what it's supposed to look like?

johntunes

03-31-2007, 07:14 PM

Hello,

It's my understanding that the National Linen building will rise approx. 5-7 stories. That seems to be the only way to get 300 plus units in a footprint that size...

"Alta Glen Iris LLC" is the partnership behind this project. Recently I found a city zoning application for this project online, in which the structure was referred to as "The Fourth" on glen iris.

The entire north side of Dallas street has been or is being RAZED!

I would like to se a rendering as well. Hopefully will be able to post soon.

galaca

03-31-2007, 08:09 PM

^Doesn't Alta usually build bland, suburban style apts?

Terminus

03-31-2007, 08:16 PM

^Doesn't Alta usually build bland, suburban style apts?

No, only in suburbs. And it's not Alta, it's Wood Partners. Alta is a brand name. Even so, this project is now called The Fourth because it's in the Old Fourth Ward and next to the Future North Avenue/Old Fourth Ward Park.

It's actually going to be quite nice. I did the zoning for it and my office is doing the streetscape design work.

johntunes

03-31-2007, 11:06 PM

Terminus,

that is cool. would you happen to know if any site plans exist for "the fourth"? or any idea how big this is going to be?

I own property on Dallas St.. and you can't imagine how thrilled I was to see those backhoes show up Monday.:)

Thanks

johntunes

03-31-2007, 11:09 PM

whoDean

03-31-2007, 11:34 PM

Where is the North Ave. park going to be located?

smArTaLlone

04-09-2007, 04:40 PM

Andrea

04-09-2007, 04:55 PM

In the Business Chronicle article on the Westown development that'll have 1,450 homes, they list several other westside projects that total more than 5,200 housing units and more than 500,000 sf of retail.

I love all this low and midrise stuff. That's what will turn this town into a bona fide city.

atlantaguy

04-09-2007, 05:19 PM

I totally agree, Andrea.

When I saw the renederings in the BC print edition on Friday, I was wondering/hoping that Terminus' firm had a hand in this. That whole area is about to totally explode!

MidtownMile

04-09-2007, 08:40 PM

I love all this low and midrise stuff. That's what will turn this town into a bona fide city.

Absolutely. I also think that is one aspect of the spine-like development of the city that is great. Unlike many other major cities where you get the core and rings around it, you can have upstart and smaller neighborhoods that are very close to the spine all the way along it. Just look at Collier Hills, the Highlands, etc. All very close to Peachtree but distinctly neighborhood-ish.

vandynole

04-11-2007, 10:28 PM

Terminus

04-12-2007, 12:26 AM

Anyone know what's going on at the NE corner of Irwin and Randolph, in the Old Fourth Ward? A couple of years ago, an old store was torn down and an apparent live/work space built in its place. There's been no activity at all, though, since then. It seems like a few other properties along that stretch are ripe to be rebuilt as well.

It's for sale.

We're doing the redevelopment of StudioPlex via the addition of 183 homes, a 450 seat theater (True Colors), a very small amount of new retail/restaurant space, and a completion repositioning of the existing mill building.

vandynole

04-12-2007, 10:27 PM

galaca

04-12-2007, 10:32 PM

^Totally agree!

Terminus

04-12-2007, 11:00 PM

This afternoon, I drove by the Auburn Avenue development currently under construction. It was extremely impressive; felt very urban. It looked like they were incorporating existing, historic storefronts into the new building, which was really cool.

This project doesn't get much pub, but could be one of Atlanta's best non-highrise developments in recent years.

It is certainly the best infill project - in that it's built to the side lot line and incorporates old buildings - rather than just plunking some random building down.

trainiac

04-13-2007, 07:32 PM

We're doing the redevelopment of StudioPlex via the addition of 183 homes, a 450 seat theater (True Colors), a very small amount of new retail/restaurant space, and a completion repositioning of the existing mill building.

Oooh, I saw the drawings at the last IPNA meeting and it looks great! Love the connection to the viaduct at Edgewood and the theater to be run by Kenny Leon. :yes: Typical of my hood, even though this was just a courtesy-call as we have no say in fourth ward projects, they wasted 20 minutes hammering the developer about it. Groan

A little further north....After the demolition of the National Linen building, you can really tell how big that site is. For some reason seemed smaller. I bet there's some nasty chemicals in the soil there. Glen Iris is getting pretty nice.

boomtown

04-16-2007, 04:33 PM

Spring Start Set for 108-Unit Condo Project
Globe Street
By Natalie Keith

ATLANTA-Construction is expected to begin in the spring on Castleberry Point, a 108-unit condominium project in the Castleberry Hill neighborhood. Miller Gallman Developers LLC is the force behind the project.

The four-story flat-iron development will also include 35,000 sf of street-level retail and restaurant space. The project will feature one-, two- and three-bedroom units ranging in size from 748 sf to more than 2,800 sf with 17 floor plans, including five live/work spaces. Prices for the units range from the low $200,000s to the $700,000s.

Contracts have been signed for 50% of the units and two of the live/work spaces. “Castleberry Point’s success flies in the face of the notion that pre-sales aren’t happening in the condo market in Atlanta,” says Jerry Miller, of Miller Gallman. “Not only are they happening, but they are exceeding all our expectations.”
The Castleberry Hill neighborhood sits at the edge of Downtown and Midtown--with Downtown a short walk and Midtown less than three miles away. The neighborhood, which is less than a mile from CNN Center and Philips Arena, features a variety of restaurants, coffee houses and art galleries.

Other projects that Miller Gallman has been involved with in the Castleberry Hill neighborhood include Swift & Co. Lofts, West Lumber Lofts, 330 Peters St., Castleberry Row and Fair & Walker Lofts.

bwolfe71

04-17-2007, 07:27 PM

Great news. Thanks for the info Boomtown since thats my 'hood. I know one of the live work spaces is being filled with a restaraunt from the same owners as Apres Diem.

micropundit

04-17-2007, 07:42 PM

Railroad District

April 16, 2007

The Atlanta Downtown Improvement District (ADID) board voted to expand the District to include 20 blocks in Atlanta’s south central business district. Property owners are re-branding the area bounded by Martin Luther King, Jr. Dr, Peachtree Street, and the Norfolk-Southern Railroad tracks that border the west side of Downtown as the Railroad District to highlight the neighborhood’s rich and vibrant history as well as its potential for future redevelopment. A majority of property owners petitioned the ADID board to expand the existing district to include their area.

“We first expanded the Downtown Improvement District in 2000 at the request of a majority of property owners to the north of our original District boundaries,” said Paul Kelman, executive vice president of Central Atlanta Progress, the non-profit organization that administers the ADID. “We have expected for some time that property owners to our south would also want to join the District. By expanding the reach of the Ambassador Force and Clean Team, we will continue to improve Downtown Atlanta. Our momentum right now is great and this expansion will provide a boost to Downtown’s next growth area.”

In late 2006, redevelopers the Morsberger Group hosted a charette for more than twenty area stakeholders to discuss the current state of affairs, challenges, opportunities and re-naming possibilities for the Railroad District.

“My experience with other real estate developers and partners has convinced me that a team can work together to achieve a favorable outcome for the whole neighborhood more effectively that going it alone,” said Emory Morsberger, president of the Morsberger Group. “This has been an incredible team effort so far and we look forward to the next several years working together.”

In order to strengthen the movement to revitalize this neighborhood, the Railroad District team working closely with City of Atlanta, Central Atlanta Progress, and the Atlanta Development Authority set out to encourage other fellow property owners to join the efforts to unite the community.

"I am impressed and encouraged by the leadership and collaboration of multiple business owners in bringing together the City of Atlanta, Central Atlanta Progress, and the owners of properties of all sizes to produce a concrete vision and action plan for this vitally important and promising area within our central business district," said Councilman Ceasar Mitchell.

Securing the expansion of Atlanta Downtown Improvement District is only the first step toward the Railroad District’s revival. The bright future of the area also includes plans for streetscape enhancements, essential transportation improvements, potential renovation of the Nelson Street Bridge and establishing more effective neighborhood connectivity, open spaces and green space.

The different companies working together included the Morsberger Group, Central Parking, Gallman Development Group and Wood Partners. All of these companies are active in redevelopment plans for the area. The Morsberger Group owns the former C&S Bank building, which it plans to convert into 231 condominiums, 24,000 s.f. of street level retail and 6,000 s.f. of office space. Gallman Development Group is currently working on mixed-use projects immediately west of the Railroad District, such as Castleberry Point, and also owns property near the Garnett St. MARTA station. Developers Wood Partners is currently planning a potential redevelopment of the Norfolk-Southern building into 500 residential units with street level retail. All will be heavily involved in the revitalization of the neighborhood with a combined total of nearly $200 million in investments.

These projects, when combined with the under construction Department of Justice building, City of Atlanta Public Safety Headquarters, renovations to the Richard B. Russell building and MLK Jr. Federal Building, and the pending Atlanta Multimodal Passenger Terminal and many other important locales, public and private, will all contribute to a vibrant future for the neighborhood.

TallTallScraperATL

05-08-2007, 01:11 AM

ATLonthebrain

05-08-2007, 01:48 AM

TallTall, I remember reading something about this last month, with this site becoming apartments. Ah, I found it. Here's the info from the ABC a couple weeks back (and the company is building all around the metro area!):

Piedmont apartments
Apartments are going up on a former Ramada Inn site on Piedmont Road.

Alliance Residential Co. has begun construction on Broadstone Piedmont, a 212-unit mid-rise complex at 2115 Piedmont Road in Atlanta on what once was the 181-room Ramada Inn.

The $35 million project will also include nine live/work spaces and 7,000 square feet of office suites, said Bill Bollwerk, managing director of Alliance Residential in Atlanta.

Alliance Residential has also begun construction on the $37 million Broadstone Perimeter Park at North Peachtree Road and I-285. The firm is building 230 units on the 7.7-acre site.

Both projects should open in May 2008, he said.

Phoenix-based Alliance Residential, which has two apartment complexes in Atlanta, bought the 4.45-acre Piedmont Road site Jan. 22 for $7.2 million, in a deal brokered by Marcus & Millichap.

Richard Ehmer, a director in the San Francisco office of Marcus & Millichap's National Hospitality Group, and Helen Zaver, a hotel properties specialist in the Atlanta office, represented the seller, Pattni Lodging Group Inc. in Atlanta.

Zaver and John Wise, a senior associate in Marcus & Millichap's Atlanta office, represented the buyer.

Alliance Residential has two more apartment projects in the works, one in East Atlanta next to Glenwood Park, and the other at Marietta Street/Howell Mill Road, Bollwerk said.

Alliance Residential also owns Broadstone Vinings and Broadstone at Dunwoody, both in metro Atlanta.

-- Staff writer Lisa R. Schoolcraft contributed to this column.

Chris Creech

05-08-2007, 03:48 AM

Does anybody know what might happen on the site of the old ramada at piedmont rd and 85. I'm amazed at the demolition along piedmont, must be one of the areas most transforming in the atl. At last we wont be a one street town anymore lol.

I think that's going to be a mid-rise condo development. They've got the parking deck done and I think it's going to wrapped around with units.

Also, in that area I keep wondering if something is going to happen to the site where the old Holiday Inn was (now its some knock off economy hotel). But it sits on a prime hillside spot there sort of on it's own island of real estate. Seems like it would be a great spot for a highrise condo. You'd have incredible views of buckhead, AS and downtown there.

SteveD

05-08-2007, 04:57 AM

...one in East Atlanta next to Glenwood Park

-- Staff writer Lisa R. Schoolcraft contributed to this column.

I'm trying to figure out what they're talking about since Glenwood Park is not in East Atlanta.

Tombstoner

05-08-2007, 12:51 PM

I'm trying to figure out what they're talking about since Glenwood Park is not in East Atlanta.

Well...that general vicinity, no? If someone were to ask me where Glenwood Park was, I'd say "just west of East Atlanta." :shrug:

SteveD

05-08-2007, 01:32 PM

well yeah, I suppose it just semantics. You can't be "in East Atlanta" and "next to Glenwood Park" at the same time, since there's about a third of a mile's worth of neighborhoods in between. "close to" or "nearby" would have been better than "next to".

whoDean

05-08-2007, 03:16 PM

Does anybody know what might happen on the site of the old ramada at piedmont rd and 85. I'm amazed at the demolition along piedmont, must be one of the areas most transforming in the atl. At last we wont be a one street town anymore lol.

What other demolition along Piedmont are you referring to? The Lindberg Center area? What else?

Andrea

05-08-2007, 05:37 PM

What other demolition along Piedmont are you referring to? The Lindberg Center area? What else?

It's not undergoing demolition yet, but the property just on the other side of I-85 (where the Buckhead Antique Market was) has been sold and is said to be slated for redevelopment.

whoDean

05-08-2007, 05:50 PM

sabino86

05-09-2007, 06:33 AM

Taken 5/8/2007:

http://photos-019.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v78/2/92/22608885/n22608885_32088019_713.jpg

What annoys me is that this building has seemingly taken forever to be built... :shrug:

L.ARCH

05-09-2007, 06:56 AM

It's not undergoing demolition yet, but the property just on the other side of I-85 (where the Buckhead Antique Market was) has been sold and is said to be slated for redevelopment.

Do you know who the developer is or what they have planned? That whole area is exploding. Seems like buckhead is creeping south... or is that midtown creeping north?

Andrea

05-09-2007, 07:12 AM

The Piedmont/Cheshire Bridge area is ripe for redevelopment, it would seem like an enterprising developer would find large tracts appropriate for mixed-use in the area..

Oh, I think a number of people have been putting land together around there for years. There are several significant assemblages.

joey

05-09-2007, 07:20 AM

http://photos-019.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v78/2/92/22608885/n22608885_32088019_713.jpg

Are those being zero-lot-lined?

Terminus

05-09-2007, 01:44 PM

Are those being zero-lot-lined?

Yes, thank goodness!

Terminus

05-09-2007, 01:46 PM

Taken 5/8/2007:

What annoys me is that this building has seemingly taken forever to be built... :shrug:

If it were pre-cast concret, poured-in-place, or EIFS it would be done now.

Good things take time.

sabino86

05-09-2007, 04:52 PM

If it were pre-cast concret, poured-in-place, or EIFS it would be done now.

Good things take time.

True. And this project does at least 4 things:

1. Continues the string of development connecting GSU with its new dorms @ Piedmont/J.W. Dobbs
2. Creates Downtown living space (and as an added bonus, close to GSU, which is good for parents of GSU students who want to invest in condos)
3. Replaces the abandoned Palomont Motor Lodge
4. Street-level retail anyone?

And EIFS? :yuck:

trainiac

05-09-2007, 07:07 PM

3. Replaces the abandoned Palomont Motor Lodge

This is such a huge win. Much better.

Any word on the lot where the old steakhouse sat on the northwest corner of Auburn & Piedmont? It's just been a couple of piles of bricks since an SUV ran into it and they tore it down (circa 2001 or 2?)

Chris Creech

05-11-2007, 03:15 AM

The Piedmont/Cheshire Bridge area is ripe for redevelopment, it would seem like an enterprising developer would find large tracts appropriate for mixed-use in the area.

Beazer is also building some homes just up Cheshire Bridge...

There's a LOT of property down in those old industrial areas, like down where the Nursery is. Also a great thing about Cheshire Bridge is that it seems to run on a natural ridge, and has big drop offs along several stretches, you could build midrise condos on 2-3 story parking decks and keep the first residential floor at street level without too much ground work.

There's also that floodplain area by the river, and a undevlopable big green space that runs back into the woods there (My house in Morningside used to back up to the woods and it's pretty extensive). That would make a great park, especially if they could develop some park amenities on that underutlized DOT land there.

joey

05-11-2007, 08:08 AM

16click

05-18-2007, 05:25 AM

Just noticed the advertisement for this development in the Atlanta magazine. It's a mixture of townhomes and condos. Construction is well underway on this project. Near my home so I jog by it daily. Here's the link: http://www.parkeastpaces.com/

Teshadoh

05-18-2007, 03:16 PM

Taken 5/8/2007:

http://photos-019.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v78/2/92/22608885/n22608885_32088019_713.jpg

What annoys me is that this building has seemingly taken forever to be built... :shrug:

Holy mother of what - is that across from the ARC where the old Palamor Hotel was? That is something that I was very unexpected to see.

Does anyone have any updates on the Oakland Park condo on Memorial? I would truly love to see some updates - also if anyone would mind dropping by my house to take a picture of it (see what my renters are up to) ;)

whoDean

05-18-2007, 04:07 PM

The only problem with the Cheshire Bridge area is an utter lack of connectivity. It's perhaps even worse than Peachtree in Buckhead, in that i only a solitary linear road passes through the area, and it has only three exits into greater Buckhead along its entire length (@ Buford Highway, @ Piedmont, and Lindbergh).

If this strip is built up without the city doing something about better connectivity there over to Piedmont or among the existing streets west of it (across the train tracks, etc.) to create parallel routes, both Cheshire Bridge and Lindbergh are going to be bigger clusterfucks than they are now, and they're already atrocious in rush hour.

Cheshire Bridge needs a median from Piedmont (where the intersection needs some major improvement crossing over to Monroe) all the way to I-85 with only occasional left turn lanes. The Lavista past the I-85 interchange to Buford Hwy is particularly vexing. The proposed GA400/85 intersection improvement would go a long way to improving things (how is that progressing Andrea?)

bwolfe71

05-22-2007, 08:20 PM

Kenneth Green is planning a mixed use development at 213 Walker Street (for information only) which has projections of 7200 sq ft. of retail, 17000 sq. ft of residential units. They are planning 24 parking spaces. There are plans for 8 residential units plus a studio. The lot is currently empty. 1st level of the building will house parking and a small retail area. The 2nd level will be for retail with the 3rd & 4th levels as residential units. The residential units will cost approximately $220/sq feet up (or whatever the market dictates). Jim Schneider inquired about ownership of retail space and Kate asked the developers to consider only 3 levels with high ceilings. Jim Schneider also inquired about dumpsters for garbage. The developers mentioned that they are before the general body for feedback and will take all comments into consideration. Mike mentioned that a zero lot line and no green space will not compliment the neighborhood. The timeframe for the project is 18 months from now.

smArTaLlone

06-10-2007, 08:28 PM

Lavista Walk
238 apartments, 132 townhomes and 11,000 sf retail
http://www.rcpatl.com/portfolio/gallery/129.JPG

boomtown

06-11-2007, 05:24 PM

Does anyone know what Georgia Power is building at their site in Virginia Highlands? They have cleared a quite a large area...

micropundit

06-20-2007, 04:39 PM

Last updated: June 20, 2007 08:08am
By Natalie Keith
ATLANTA-Construction is expected to begin in the coming weeks on Alta Coventry Station, a $33.5-million, 322-unit work force housing complex.

Work has begun to clear the 17.5-acre site along Greenbriar Parkway in preparation for vertical construction. The project will include one-, two- and three-bedroom units with an average of 1,092 sf. It is expected to be completed in fall 2008. It will also include a swimming pool, fitness center, business center, picnic area and clubhouse.

The project is a joint venture of locally based Wood Partners and Arsenal Real Estate Funds of Morristown, NJ, which is investing $6.4 million in the project. "Work force housing is a great niche to be in. There's a high demand for that type of housing," Arsenal Real Estate Funds' partner John Maurer tells GlobeSt.com.

The project is part of the Atlanta Development Authority's master-planned community of Coventry Station, which will include single-family homes, senior rental units, townhouses and a commercial village with lofts above retail space. The development site is located along Interstate 285, five miles from Hartsfield Atlanta International Airport and 7.5 miles from Downtown. Target rents for the multifamily project have not yet been established, but 20% of the units will be rented to residents earning less than 50% of the area's median income. "The complex is located in an area where there is significant demand for workforce housing," Maurer says.

Arsenal is investing into its third work force project. In April, the company announced $10.25 million in financing for two projects in San Antonio. "The economy continues to perform well and job growth is strong," Maurer says. "Yet, at the same time, the residential real estate boom of the early 2000s has priced many potential buyers out of the market and the collapse of the subprime lending industry has cut off many would-be buyers from home ownership."

Copyright © 2007 ALM Properties, Inc. All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited

megalopolis

06-20-2007, 08:21 PM

Does anyone know what Georgia Power is building at their site in Virginia Highlands? They have cleared a quite a large area...

I haven't been by there in a while to see what clearing it is you're talking about, but I heard a while back that the GA Power land on Ponce de Leon Place in the Highlands (if that's what you're talking about) is going to be converted into one of the Beltline parks. Can anyone else confirm that?

BtiVaHiAtl

06-20-2007, 11:14 PM

In the last Virginia-Highland newsletter they said GA power wants to build a new substation on their property. "Field of Dreams" park (ode to old Ponce de Leon Ballpark) is the park to be built along the beltline, somewhere around greenwood and ponce place.

megalopolis

06-21-2007, 04:27 PM

According to the Beltline website, Field of Dreams is supposed to be 8 acres. Looking on Google Earth at the Beltline section that runs parallel to Ponce Place, I'm trying to see where it's supposed to go. Isn't there a bunch new construction condos/lofts/townhouses along Greenwood between Ponce Place and the Beltline. Everything south of Greenwood are those new lofts/townhomes, the apartment complex, Urban Body Fitness and the businesses that front Ponce. So that leaves north of Greenwood. If it's not the GA Power site, then all that's left is what looks like a couple of warehouses. Would that be 8 acres? I'll have to go by there and check it out.

sabino86

06-21-2007, 04:43 PM

16click

06-22-2007, 03:57 PM

Here is another apartment community for Buckhead. Located on Lenox road right in front of the senior high-rise development that is currently being built. Not that good at posting pics so here's the link http://www.postproperties.com/ApartmentHome/PropertyInfo.aspx?PropertyId=Post+Alexander&Type=PAH

echinatl

06-25-2007, 05:24 PM

"Kenneth Green is planning a mixed use development at 213 Walker Street (for information only) which has projections of 7200 sq ft. of retail, 17000 sq. ft of residential units."

Any new info on this? I just bought a place at DUO in Castleberry Hills and can't wait for projects like this to continue to transform the area for the better. The Castleberry Hills website is terrible and really doesn't mention any of the upcoming projects. I’m really excited to move back in town!

akiatl261

06-25-2007, 05:45 PM

:previous: I love Castleberry hill area. Is it generally cheaper to purchase a place there compared to midtown or even downtown itself?

echinatl

06-26-2007, 12:59 AM

Well it all depends on what you want. There are million+ lofts there but also 160ish 1 bedrooms available. I think in general it's going to be cheaper than midtown and buckhead, but I think that will change as soon as it builds out a bit and the retail moves in. I paid about 190 per squar foot which was a killer deal. Castleberry point will have retail and will be right down the street plus the place wolfe was talking about. I love the idea of walking out of my door, and having multiple places to hang out/eat/shop right there. Also, and this might change, there isn't that much traffic. You can walk, jog, or bike around and not worry about getting run over. The only people that drive to Castleberry, seem to live in Castleberry. I can't even describe how excited I am to move in there (I close July 31st, the wait is killing me).

Fiorenza

06-26-2007, 02:23 AM

How's the food in that Mexican upsacale cantina?

ATLonthebrain

06-26-2007, 02:33 AM

Fiorenza, I'm planning on going to No Mas! Cantina during my visit next week. I've never been, nor even seen the place in passing, but read about it a few months ago in the AJC under the Private Quarters series. I made it a point to keep it in mind for my next visit. Hoping it's a great experience! Looking forward to seeing you guys @ Six Feet Under in a few days.

Fiorenza

06-26-2007, 02:54 AM

Good deal!

catlike

06-26-2007, 04:35 AM

Something that hasn't been mentioned in a while is the building at 5th and Piedmont that was part of the Midtown Manor rooming houses. I believe there was talk over a year ago of tearing down the house and replacing it with townhomes. Instead, some sort of reuse project is going on with the house and six townhomes are being built behind it. Unfortunately, the realtor's site listed on the sign doesn't mention any further information.

macdaddy

06-26-2007, 07:23 AM

We've been to No Mas for brunch. The food is great, and seems to be more authentically Mexican cuisine. It has great atmosphere. The inside space has a nice design, with some cool unexpected features.

echinatl

06-26-2007, 03:24 PM

I believe the building was previously used as a warehouse to store furniture that was then sent to the 2 other No Mas stores. The place is neat and definitely worth a visit.

The No Mas owners own a loft in Castleberry and are strong supporters of the community.

trainiac

06-29-2007, 04:14 PM

I thought things looked pretty different when the National Linens building was torn down, but now - wow. Head south on Glen Iris from North Ave and they are dismantling that gigantic retaining wall (wasn't it 20 or 30 feet tall?) along the northeast corner. It looks totally different already.

Ivy Hall (Peter's mansion) is going gangbusters. The entire stone wall along Myrtle is gone and they've hauled away tons of dirt. Looks like they may be doing a driveway between the mansion and the townhouses that face North Ave.

Looks like the house that Brunning & Stang is renovating on the northeast corner of 5th and Piedmont is going to be called Hammond Ivy or something like that. They've torn off a giant addition on the back of it.

(four 0 four)

06-29-2007, 05:18 PM

If I may be allowed to vent for just a minute...

Regents Park is a beautiful townhome development being constructed on Peachtree across from Peachtree Battle.
http://www.regentsparkga.com/home.html
Wonderful design, scale, colors etc...(but then at $2M+, I suppose they should be!).
My gripe is with the new privacy/security wall being constructed...it appears to be 6-7 feet tall and built right at the edge of the sidewalk. The renderings show a much 'friendlier' version that doesn't look quite so fortress-like. I would imagine walking by this monstrosity would feel barren and somewhat intimidating.

sunking1056

06-29-2007, 06:55 PM

My gripe is with the new privacy/security wall being constructed...it appears to be 6-7 feet tall and built right at the edge of the sidewalk.

I just noticed that the other day. I was so disappointed...really bad

mayhem

07-01-2007, 01:29 AM

I found a video about Glenwood Park.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2132922994665540382

smArTaLlone

07-02-2007, 03:44 PM

Miller-Gallman recently submitted plans to the ARC for a Castleberry Hill area project with 300 residential units and 80,000 sf of non-residential space. The site is bounded by Mitchell St., Centennial Olympic Park Dr., Chapel St. and Mangum St.

(four 0 four)

07-02-2007, 05:22 PM

Gables Residential has started the demolition of the Red Cross building on Monroe Drive for a new apartment community.

Chris Creech

07-04-2007, 02:58 PM

Gables Residential has started the demolition of the Red Cross building on Monroe Drive for a new apartment community.

You know that's a really well placed hill site. Those buildings could have some great views of buckhead/lenox.

echinatl

07-05-2007, 01:06 AM

macdaddy

07-05-2007, 07:18 AM

You know that's a really well placed hill site. Those buildings could have some great views of buckhead/lenox.

They definitely will. I work at the remaining Red Cross Chapter HQ at the very top of the hill, and the view is impressive.

smArTaLlone

07-05-2007, 02:36 PM

ATLskyline

07-06-2007, 04:18 PM

Here is a project at 14th and Howell Mill. A mixed-use rehab of an old slaughterhouse, the article aslo mentions West Town.

AJC article (http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2007/07/01/0702white.html)

BVC

07-06-2007, 06:15 PM

"Miller-Gallman recently submitted plans to the ARC for a Castleberry Hill area project with 300 residential units and 80,000 sf of non-residential space. The site is bounded by Mitchell St., Centennial Olympic Park Dr., Chapel St. and Mangum St."

Pretty sure that is Castleberry Point right?

This is a lot to the northwest of the u/c Castleberry Point that you describe. It is a particularly odd lot in that there are 2-3 stories worth of elevation change because Mitchell St passes under CP Olympic Park Dr.

Castleberry Point had forms going up this morning for the "Flatiron" portion of the building. Only footings and rebar/forms are going up on that end so far.

echinatl

07-07-2007, 02:53 AM

I was having a hard time trying to figure out where something that large would pop up. So is the 300 unit structure going to pop up in the area that you were describing? North West of CP? There is a lot of space to the left between CP and Centennial Station and Duo. It would be great if they began to develop that area.

It's awesome to see Castleberry Point start to take shape. It's a really unique building. I jog past it almost every day. Was going to start posting some weekly pictures of it starting this weekend.

Andrea

07-08-2007, 10:24 PM

I looked at these townhouses the other day. They were both pretty nice.

http://www.thebrownstonesatlanta.com/index_58.html

http://www.brunningandstang.com/overview.php?DID=8

echinatl

07-09-2007, 12:26 AM

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(four 0 four)

07-13-2007, 11:02 PM

If the link works, here are pictures from ajc.com of Tribute Lofts at the corner of Boulevard and Freedom Parkway...incredible building!
http://lpe.ajc.com/gallery/view/business/0707/0713lofts/

echinatl

07-16-2007, 12:55 AM

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echinatl

07-17-2007, 01:29 PM

Going back to the No Mas discussion, I took a friend last night and he thought it was the best Mexican food he has ever had. That place is awesome. Next stop will be Wasabi, has anyone been there and can comment on the food?

bwolfe71

07-17-2007, 07:00 PM

Went to the Castleberry Hill Neighborhood meeting last night and learned the that Railside Lofts has all permitting done and they are about to start on phase one. This will be on Peters St in the area across from where Haynes intersects.

Also, there is a new coffeeshop being built in the Fair St/Walker St intersection. Looks to be be a "arty" type place with 2 levels, and internet cafe, mags, etc. Also, one of the managers of the Cheetah is opening up a blues bar and restaraunt at 177 Peters St. They have already spend over 150k remodeling the building. There will be valet parking and an outside deck on the top floor.

They was also another ground-breaking announced (i can't remember the exact location or name) - they are having an open house at their corporate offices to kick everything off. Supposed to start end of August.

As for the person who asked about Wasabi - its great. My financee and I eat there all the time.

Terminus

07-18-2007, 12:40 AM

Went to the Castleberry Hill Neighborhood meeting last night and learned the that Railside Lofts has all permitting done and they are about to start on phase one.

We have AUDC approval, but we'll still need to go trough the building permit process. I don't think we plan on breaking ground until fall - September, if I'm not mistaken.

echinatl

07-18-2007, 03:00 PM

@bwolfe71

Was the other new construction Artist Square Condo's?
http://www.artistsquarecondos.com/

Did they mention where this would pop up?

I was on my way to the meeting and then had to run and pick up a friend stuck at the airport, got stuck in traffic, and missed it :hell:

I made him buy me dinner at No Mas to make up for it. I'll definitely be at the next one.

mayhem

07-18-2007, 06:05 PM

The street presence of those artists square condos should be illegal.

jnihiser

07-18-2007, 06:20 PM

The street presence of those artists square condos should be illegal.

I'd like to 2nd that comment. It's ridiculous.

bwolfe71

07-18-2007, 07:20 PM

Yes - it was Artist Square, thanks for the reminder.

Mayhem - How do you know about the street presence? I don't see anywhere in the renderings where it shows this.

echinatl

07-18-2007, 09:45 PM

Ok I'm an idiot it shows that it will be between Chapel and Nelson right on their website.

L.ARCH

07-19-2007, 05:17 PM

The street presence of those artists square condos should be illegal.

Agreed! This is not the suburbs

ATLaffinity

07-20-2007, 03:40 PM

The street presence of those artists square condos should be illegal.

i dunno. look at their homepage. people of all races are attracted to this place. both men and women as well.

(four 0 four)

07-20-2007, 03:50 PM

For anyone wanting to form their opinion about some of the Castleberry Hill projects from something other than a rendering, you may want to consider tonight's Art Walk. Castleberry Point and Artists Square are joining with several galleries in holding an open house from 6-9pm.

http://www.castleberryhill.org/artstroll.html

boomtown

07-20-2007, 04:12 PM

From gritty to glamorous, DeKalb Ave. on fast track to resurgence
By CHANDLER BROWN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 07/19/07

Dryden Driggers is from metro Atlanta, so she had a pretty good idea of where she wanted to live after graduating from college.
"A lot of my friends are in this area," said Driggers, a grad student at the University of West Georgia.
The 626 DeKalb Avenue luxury apartment complex is just one of numerous high-end developments sprouting up next to rail lines and the overhead MARTA line. DeKalb Avenue, long a rough-around-the-edges industrial artery, now has condos starting in the mid-$100,000s.
Dryden Driggers' flat at the 626 DeKalb Avenue apartments has spacious rooms, walk-in closets and high-speed Internet access. The complex exemplifies the chic new face of the thoroughfare.
The area Driggers is referring to, a stretch of DeKalb Avenue between Atlanta and Decatur, is undergoing a resurgence. Once a blighted area known for graffiti and beggars, it's now home, or soon will be, to at least a dozen high-end condominiums and apartments. Condos start in the mid-$100,000s and can cost nearly a half-million dollars.
"It's coming back to life," Bridget Driggers said on a recent afternoon as she helped her daughter move into her new two-bedroom flat at the 626 DeKalb Avenue apartments.
Like other new housing along DeKalb Avenue, 626 features spacious rooms, walk-in closets and high-speed Internet access. It also features a lighted pool surrounded by lush gardens and waterfalls.
It's a stark contrast to the graffiti-covered train trestle at DeKalb Avenue and Krog Street, just a few hundred feet away from 626. Such sights once were common along the mostly industrial thoroughfare, which runs parallel to two rail lines. But as condos and apartments go up, slowly the graffiti and other eyesores are disappearing.
"I think it's great. Any time you can get more people living in an area, the better off you are," said DeKalb County Commissioner Jeff Rader, whose district includes the north side of DeKalb Avenue, where most of the new development is.
However, with the construction boom, Rader figures, will come changes to DeKalb Avenue, a three- and four-lane highway that many commuters to downtown Atlanta use as a sometimes less congested alternative to Ponce de Leon Avenue.
"More and more people are going toward a more pleasant street, and we'll see an effort to improve the streetscape and make it more of a boulevard instead of an arterial" road, Rader said.
He said that Decatur, Atlanta and DeKalb County — portions of DeKalb Avenue fall within those jurisdictions — would have to work together to come up with a development plan for the road, and a way to pay for it. He said he didn't know of any such plans in the works currently.
The road's resurgence is also fueled by new mixed-use development on intersecting Moreland Avenue, said Brad Addicks, a manager for Waterford Homes, which developed the Townhomes at Candler Park on DeKalb Avenue.
The Edgewood Retail District on Moreland Avenue features a Kroger, Target, Lowe's, Best Buy and dozens of smaller stores less than a mile off DeKalb Avenue.
"That's really helping change the landscape of that area," Addicks said, noting that many buyers were attracted to his development because it's close to a grocery store and other shopping outlets.
All but three of the 43 Candler Park townhomes — which range from $200,000 to the high $400,000s — have been sold, Addicks said.
DeKalb Avenue "is not what it used to be," Addicks said. "It's really turning around."

porter westchester

07-20-2007, 07:15 PM

Does anyone know what GA Power is doing on Ponce Pl…about ½ mile before Chipotle?

kardon

07-22-2007, 02:42 PM

Sales Hit Half-Way Mark at Renovated Studioplex
By Gina Kenny

ATLANTA-A joint venture renovating the historic Studioplex building has sold half of the 130 condominium units and has closed on 20 of the units. The 160,000-sf building, located on Auburn between Edgewood and Irwin avenues, is being renovated by a partnership between locally based companies Columbia Residential and Orinda Corp. and the Historic District Development Corp. The partnership is spending approximately $4 million on renovating the building, says Dillon Baynes, president of Orinda Corp.

Studioplex, in the heart of the Old Fourth Ward, was constructed in 1906 and was originally a cotton warehouse. In 1998, Historic District Development Corp. converted the building to apartments and the joint venture was formed in January to convert it to condominiums, Baynes says. The building will have 145,000 sf of loft units with 112 loft residences and 18 loft offices. The average loft size is 1,100 with units ranging from 760 sf to 2,100 sf. The units are being sold for approximately $200 per sf, Baynes tells GlobeSt.com.

The units have 12-foot to 17-foot ceilings and exposed brick walls. Some of the renovations to the units included the addition of granite countertops and stainless steel appliances. Renovations to the property include new landscaping, “significant exterior shell improvements,” doors and windows and the addition of a rooftop deck, he says. The units are being marketed by the Marketing Directors with David Patton/Prudential Georgia Realty.

Businesses to be located in the building include Dencity Architects, Hilltop Design and Sterling Investments. “We have an eclectic mix of design types and real estate and financial types who are more entrepreneurial in nature,” Baynes says. The building also has 28 retail studios for artwork to be produced, displayed and sold.

Studioplex is near Interstates 75, 85 and 20, the King Center, the proposed Atlanta Beltline rail system and the bars and shops on Highland Avenue. It is also within walking distance from the home where Martin Luther King Jr. was born. The Historic District Development Corp. is a nonprofit organization whose mission is to provide affordable housing and to preserve and revitalize the Martin Luther King Jr. Historic District. The project is part of plans to redevelop the district. The neighborhood has evolved into a live, work and play district.

echinatl

07-23-2007, 02:41 PM

Studioplex looks great. What turned me off to them though was the fact that all units have 1 bathroom.

bwolfe71

07-30-2007, 07:35 PM

New lofts expand artsy district downtown

By JULIE B. HAIRSTON
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 07/27/07

A craggy patch of barren urban land will soon become the site for a marriage between the city core's edgy, artsy heart and its sophisticated uptown evolution.

Poised on a rise defined by the intersections of Centennial Olympic Park Drive, Nelson Street and Chapel Street, Castleberry Point is the first new mixed-use development in Atlanta's premier loft district. The 108-unit project created by Castleberry Hill pioneer developers Bruce Gallman and Jerry Miller will overlook Philips Arena, the Georgia Dome and Centennial Olympic Park.

Its vantage point has already proved a strong draw for buyers, with the developers reporting contracts on more than half of the units.

"It's the first of its kind in that neighborhood," said Brenda Isaac, 56, who bought a two-bedroom, two-bath unit on the top floor for $299,900. "The strategic place where it sits gives it great city views."

Castleberry Point, now under construction, creates a gateway between downtown's new entertainment district and Castleberry Hill's established creative community.

Gallman, who created Castleberry's first lofts in 1982, noted the neighborhood, initially an urban colony of artists, craftsmen and adventurous young professionals, now has 1,500 residents. With that many people, the area is ripe for an infusion of retail activity that the ground floor of Castleberry Point will accommodate, he said.

Miller and Gallman worked closely with neighborhood residents and city officials to make Castleberry Point the kind of development that would reflect, enhance and serve the landmark district.

"Everybody wanted retail on the ground floor," Gallman said. "That's what makes a community walkable."

A number of Castleberry Point lofts, priced from the low $200,000s to more than $750,000 for units ranging in size from 748 square feet to more than 2,500 square feet, sold before the project broke ground earlier this summer.

Currently, 57 of 108 units are under contract, Gallman said.

Downtown officials are excited about the project, too.

"It's got some really interesting architecture that makes it fit in with that artsy heart [of the city]," said A.J. Robinson, president of Central Atlanta Progress and the Atlanta Downtown Improvement District. "And the retail also makes it quite interesting."

Castleberry Point already has a commitment from Apres Diem restaurant. Gallman said negotiations also are well along for a salon, a personal trainer, a pet store and a grocery/deli in its street-level spaces.

The availability of restaurants, entertainment and other amenities within walking distance was a strong draw for empty-nesters Kevin and Diana Reis Sheldon, 51 and 53, respectively. The couple plans to leave the six-bedroom Alpharetta home where they have reared their nearly grown, blended brood of four to live in a two-bedroom, 1,800-square-foot loft when the project is completed next year.

"We think of ourselves as city people," said Diana, creative director for Diana Reis Designs, a marketing and advertising firm. "I'm from D.C. and my husband lived in Manhattan. We want to be someplace where we can walk around."

Gallman said Castleberry Point is benefitting from the new impetus for intown living and the migration of some empty-nesters back to the inner city. Most of the earlier buyers in Castleberry Hill were young singles or couples, he said.

Jerry Miller, Gallman's partner in the project, said loft living has evolved along with its market with Castleberry Point incorporating the amenities and design elements experienced buyers have come to expect in a high-density project.

"The level of sophistication and number of amenities have ratcheted up," Miller said. "I see a real range, a whole gamut of people coming into the market now."

The common elements he sees in loft shoppers is an inclination to creativity and a yen for engaging social activities. Some of the empty-nesters now returning to the loft district are those who once lived among the loft pioneers and migrated to the suburbs to raise families, Miller said.

Inside a facade that mimicks the sturdy midrise character of nearby storefronts, factories and warehouses, Castleberry Point will feature an inner courtyard, a rooftop pool, a fitness center and community clubhouse.

Isaac initially bought her unit as an investment, but found the promised lifestyle too compelling to resist. A retiree involved in international humanitarian work, Isaac is looking forward to not having to worry about who will mow her grass or pick up her mail when she travels.

"I'm gone a lot and it doesn't make sense to stay in this [Inman Park] place with all its upkeep when I can have a turnkey lifestyle," Isaac said.

City officials are encouraged by the level of success and acceptance Castleberry Point has enjoyed. They are hoping it will spread east through the new Railroad District and west toward Northside Drive to expand downtown's amenities and population.

"This is not unbridled growth. This is evolution," said Atlanta City Councilman Kwanza Hall, whose district includes Castleberry Hill. "It's like watching your kid grow from a child to a teen. And there's more to come."

NativeAtlantan

08-07-2007, 06:44 PM

Does anyone know what's being developed at the SE corner of Roswell Rd and Windsor Pkwy? Hopefully it's something a little better than the Popeye's accross the street.

Andrea

08-07-2007, 07:48 PM

"The level of sophistication and number of amenities have ratcheted up," Miller said. "I see a real range, a whole gamut of people coming into the market now."

A friend and I stopped by a bar in Castleberry Hill a few weeks ago and we were the only old (and white and unhip) people there. No problem as far as I'm concerned although I could tell people were staring at us and I had the sense, maybe incorrectly, that our presence was regarded as peculiar and possibly less than welcome. I guess I was anticipating more of that "whole gamut of people" atmosphere that Mr. Miller is referring to.

jnihiser

08-08-2007, 03:37 AM

A friend and I stopped by a bar in Castleberry Hill a few weeks ago and we were the only old (and white and unhip) people there. No problem as far as I'm concerned although I could tell people were staring at us and I had the sense, maybe incorrectly, that our presence was regarded as peculiar and possibly less than welcome. I guess I was anticipating more of that "whole gamut of people" atmosphere that Mr. Miller is referring to.

Did you happen to go to M Bar? My wife and I got the same looks. As long as the regular folks don't mind us too much, we're good to go.

Andrea

08-08-2007, 02:53 PM

Did you happen to go to M Bar? My wife and I got the same looks. As long as the regular folks don't mind us too much, we're good to go.

Yeah, I think that was it. On Peters Street?

bwolfe71

08-08-2007, 08:41 PM

Andrea -

You are touching on something that seems to have been brewing in Castleberry for a bit now. There is a fault line being created in Castleberry between Peters and Walker Streets. Talking to the people who live on Peters makes me understand they are not too happy about it. Peters has become the hangout spot for Atlanta University Center (Morehouse, etc) students. What is happening is all the bars and restaurants on the street are all now catering to this and it is causing a meltdown with residents with loud music and basic mayhem until late almost every Thursday thru Saturday. A few Saturday’s ago several police cars had to show up to get everyone to leave the area past 2 am.

On Walker it’s a different story. No Mas, Wasabi, Elliot Street just cater to a different clientele and there have been no issues. From what I have heard the owners of the about to open OWC is going to make an effort to make sure its more like the Walker Street side of things not the Peters side. Also, when the new places open under Castleberry Point should really make things interesting. On weekends it’s like two different neighborhoods even though they are only one street apart. There is a new blues/jazz place opening up at the corner of Peters and Haynes that only got the board to support there liquor license because they swore they were going to only try to attract an older more established customer.

Residents are just simply worried about turning Peters into some mini-Buckhead and all the headaches that come with it. I can’t blame them.

Andrea

08-08-2007, 10:52 PM

bwolfe, yeah, I can understand that college students may occasionally generate loud music and basic mayhem. That's fine.

But it would be nice if there's also a way to make a little space for us old geezers, too. I've been in lots of college towns and in cities where big universities are right in the middle of the city and typically you don't notice any disruption at all. So I'm sure there's a way for young people and old people to co-exist in Castleberry Hill. It's hard to view an area as fun and trendy if it's too polarized by age or any other criteria.

mayhem

08-09-2007, 12:27 AM

bwolfe71: I am not basic and I resent your remarks.

RobMidtowner

08-09-2007, 02:19 PM

:haha:

smArTaLlone

08-09-2007, 02:35 PM

Housing planned at Red Cross site

Staff Reports

Published on: 08/09/07
AJC (http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2007/08/09/skyline0809.html)

Gables Residential is investing $60 million in a new upscale apartment complex at the site of the old American Red Cross blood donation center in Midtown.

Gables will build 340 units on the 4.5-acre site, according to development officer Richard Munger.

The first units will be available in the fourth quarter of next year, and the entire project will be finished in the third quarter of 2009, Munger said.

Last year, Gables paid the Red Cross $7 million for the property at 1955 Monroe Drive. Demolition began this summer.

The buildings will be six to seven stories high, including a parking deck. The units will be 700 square feet to 1,400 square feet, and rents will range from $1,000 to $1,800.

Gables is a national company with about 6,500 units locally.

echinatl

08-10-2007, 03:29 AM

I know what you are talking about with Peters street. I NEVER go there, I've only been down there during an art walk which was awesome. I like Wasabi and No mas and don't see myself going beyond that anytime soon. I'm looking forward to Castleberry Point finishing up so we can get a new restaurant on that side.

smArTaLlone

08-22-2007, 04:02 PM

Anyone see Nightline last night? They had a story on the "McMansion" issue in Atlanta featuring Mary Norwood and the guy that built the replica of the White house.

Dragonheart8588

08-22-2007, 05:32 PM

Anyone see Nightline last night? They had a story on the "McMansion" issue in Atlanta featuring Mary Norwood and the guy that built the replica of the White house.

It's a rerun. They showed that a while back. I saw it when it first aired.

trainiac

08-24-2007, 04:05 PM

They have a website now http://ivyhall.net but as far as I can tell none of the links work. Here's a rendering with the mansion in the foreground

http://atlhistory.com/images/stories/skyscraper/ivyhall.jpg

Not really sure what I think about it. The site stresses the "gated community" aspect which obviously isn't represented here. I already don't like what's going in at the corner of Myrtle & North -- a twelve foot high, curved, cement wall -- which looks like it will be as inhospitable as the old stone wall that they just tore down.

Hopefully things will get better

GThomas

08-24-2007, 08:50 PM

http://atlhistory.com/images/stories/skyscraper/ivyhall.jpg

Hopefully things will get better

I know right... that is hideous. :yuck: ... I WAS somewhat excited about this project. It looks like an upscale attempt at a ranch-style dormitory. There's something odd going on with the roof... it's... boring.

Hopefully the building materials are higher quality than can be seen from the rendering.

(four 0 four)

08-24-2007, 09:11 PM

The house is HUGE...I would have thought it would have been difficult to overwhelm it but, they seemed to accomplished just that.

mayhem

08-24-2007, 11:14 PM

I just puked in my mouth a little. THANKS SCAD for ruining any chance of creating cohesive urban fabric down North Ave. It's bad enough all the other apartments in the area pay no attention to North.

Terminus

08-25-2007, 12:00 AM

I just puked in my mouth a little. THANKS SCAD for ruining any chance of creating cohesive urban fabric down North Ave. It's bad enough all the other apartments in the area pay no attention to North.

SCAD had nothing to do with this. It has been a long, long court battle for the developer to be allowed to do this. SCAD just came it at the end and decided to save the building and take it off the developer's hands - which is a good thing.

We wouldn't want a condo association being responsible for upkeeping one of the city's gem, because they could never afford to. Just look at the project on Peachtree near Lindbergh (2500 Ptree). The condo association tried to get the City to allow them to demolish the building because it's costing the owners a lot of money to keep it up. Luckily, the City ruled against them and reminded the HOA that economics and financial considerations are never a basis for rending a rezoning or variance. In fact, it's illegal to do so under state law.

foxmccleod

08-25-2007, 01:37 PM

I know right... that is hideous. :yuck: ... I WAS somewhat excited about this project. It looks like an upscale attempt at a ranch-style dormitory. There's something odd going on with the roof... it's... boring.

Hopefully the building materials are higher quality than can be seen from the rendering.

I can see the mockups from my window. The materials are brick and stone.

The curved portion at Myrtle and North appears to be a giant cistern.

smArTaLlone

08-25-2007, 03:58 PM

I just puked in my mouth a little. THANKS SCAD for ruining any chance of creating cohesive urban fabric down North Ave. It's bad enough all the other apartments in the area pay no attention to North.

I think its the city that should have zoning laws that do not allow gated suburban developments that turn their backs on major streets.

:(

Terminus

08-26-2007, 12:31 AM

I think its the city that should have zoning laws that do not allow gated suburban developments that turn their backs on major streets.

:(

There is.

This site has arguably gone through more design review than any other single project in Atlanta. I know the renderings look awful, but we should all wait until it's done to see how it turns out.

Chris Creech

08-26-2007, 12:59 AM

I have to give SCAD the benefit of the doubt just for saving the mansion and their long history of architectural preservation and development work in Savannah.

It is hard to tell whats going on from the rendering, though you would think with SCAD behind it they'd have better renderings (and a website that worked). From the otherside it almost looks like the North Avenue frontage may be townhomes, but I know there's a parking deck lurking in there somewhere I'm hoping it's not visible form the sidewalk.

Yeah, that huge monolithic wall on the corner is rather disconcerting.

A couple of things. I'm thinking the parking lot shown isn't really for the condos, but probably the event parking needed for the Peter's House. I've also got my fingers crossed that "Gated Condominiums" maybe means individually gated from courtyards on townhouses , and not what we'd normallly expect with "Gated Development" which would mean the whole area.

mayhem

08-26-2007, 03:47 AM

SCAD had nothing to do with this. It has been a long, long court battle for the developer to be allowed to do this. SCAD just came it at the end and decided to save the building and take it off the developer's hands - which is a good thing.

Thanks for the correction. I definitely appreciate SCAD saving the mansion, I was just mistaken regarding their involvement in the housing. It doesn't look good from what I have seen of the construction site in regards to street presence, but I agree that I should give it the benefit of the doubt and wait until it's further along or more renderings are released.

Toxostoma Rufum

08-26-2007, 05:18 AM

I don't like the design either, but if I was buying the only low-level unit that was facing North St. and right next to the garage entrance, you'd bet that I would want it to be twelve feet above the ground.

If this project is "hideous", does anyone prefer the ugly blocks full of prostitutes that are near it?

Is anyone lining up to put Shangrila-on-North, since it's such a hot address?

GThomas

08-26-2007, 07:35 PM

Yes, "hideous" was a bit harsh, it's not that bad. I was just expecting more, if even just height. I have my doubts that the streetwalkers will be put off much by a new development though. They have no problem hanging out on the corners of Cypress and 6th where I live, and I consider it to be a pretty nice area.

But I agree, this development will definitely help to clean up that area. The whole west Ponce, Mandarin Palace II, Abbey area is a mess. I'm preaching to the choir there though. Hopefully developments like this will add momentum to redevelop the whole area, especially with these plans for developing the Abbey block and with Fox Plaza.

Seems like the space down across from Krispy Kreme (an old car wash) would be good for development as well. I love the old Kodak sign on the building right next to there.

Fiorenza

08-26-2007, 11:19 PM

Really only a very small area that's as you say, a "mess"....no more than 2 or 3 blocks total. So I'm believing it'll get "fixed" real soon, the area will be spiffy and the whores will go away.

ATLaffinity

08-27-2007, 01:03 AM

If this project is "hideous", does anyone prefer the ugly blocks full of prostitutes that are near it?

Is anyone lining up to put Shangrila-on-North, since it's such a hot address?

805, MidCity Lofts, Plaza Midtown, etc all were developed in sketchy areas.

it's not like it's in east atlanta. it's a stone throw from the Fox.

it's the worst looking development i've seen in the works.

Terminus

09-03-2007, 05:40 PM

Yesterday I decided to enjoy the pleasant weather and bike over to The Urban Gardener on Boulevard in north Grant Park.

Along the way, I took the following shots of new projects.

Oakland Park

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8789/img2250jz6.jpg
I really like how this has turned out. The six-story scale is perfect for Memorial Drive. Unfortunately, because of a few anti-urban minded NIMBY's in north Grant Park, this is going to be the first and last building of this ideal scale built on the corridor. The new zoning has a lower height limit.

I hope the funding can be found to bury the utilities along Memorial Drive as the corridor transforms, but I digress..

Capital Gateway

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/796/img2252jw3.jpg
The adaptive-reuse job of this building is interesting. It reminds me of something you'd see in suburban Milan (which is not a complement, as those of you who have been there will know). I wish they could have redone the first level to better engage the street.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/249/img2258ap3.jpg
The Memorial Drive frontage is the best. The buildings are fairly well designed contextual modern buildings. It's also not inconceivable that one day these could be retrofitted with ground floor live/work or commercial space.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5836/img2263ca2.jpg
The corners of the Memorial Drive frontage are more modern than the center. I think that this is an excellent use of stucco (or EIFS, I'm not sure which is it) in a modern design. Stoops would have been nice, but all in all, it's pretty nice.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5814/img2257yp6.jpg
Unfortunately, behind the Memorial Drive frontage the buildings decline to be this mediocre, vaguely traditional stuff that is, IMO, architecturally awful.

I would have preferred to see new buildings in the area between Memorial Drive and I-20 developed more along the lines of the Messestadt project in Munich, Germany. It has some nice modern architecture, although the plan itself is week (featuring pods of housing, next to pods of park space, next to pods of retail/office and little semblance to the great traditional urbanism of nearby Munich). At least they have community gardens.

Here are a few shots I took last December.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3236/img2759mj6.jpg

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/318/img2761cz9.jpg

When all is said and done, however, I do think this project is an improvement over what was there, and will certainly help the area, especially when the retail is completed during its last phase.

http://www.urbancollage.com/web_images/photos_large/neighborhoods/neighborhoods_1_lg.jpg
This is the buildout. The modern low-rise building shown is the red block just below the word "Drive".