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newflyer
Mar 16, 2007, 11:03 AM
Since we have been realiegned I thought it would be great to add this thread. It a place where we can post and discuss the business in our city.

Here is an clip from the Chamber Wire :

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Chamber Magazine Now Available

The latest edition of The Chamber Wire magazine is now available to all Chamber members. This special issue focuses on the workforce shortage that currently exists in Manitoba

http://www.winnipeg-chamber.com/index.asp?sectid=278

newflyer
Mar 17, 2007, 6:30 AM
There are rumours that FP Trust (Free Press) is an active takeover target. This can be nothing but great news. Weither its Thompson or Canwest the level of content will be greatly enhanced if a takeover were to happen. :tup:

newflyer
Apr 6, 2007, 5:30 PM
From the chamber website..
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Chamber Urges Finance Minister to be Competitive


Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Dave Angus is calling on the Doer government to ensure Manitoba is more competitive when it comes to taxation in their upcoming budget. The Chamber made the following three recommendations to Manitoba Finance Minister Greg Selinger in its pre-budget submission:

1. The province should outline a long-term provincial tax strategy to provide the business community with confidence and certainty that tax reduction is a priority.

2. The province should set a target of having Manitoba’s tax levels in the top three most competitive when compared with other provinces.

3. The province should look at the provincial tax threshold levels on an annual basis to ensure we are competitive with other provinces.

Only The Lonely..
Apr 6, 2007, 6:19 PM
There are rumours that FP Trust (Free Press) is an active takeover target. This can be nothing but great news. Weither its Thompson or Canwest the level of content will be greatly enhanced if a takeover were to happen. :tup:

Amen.

newflyer
Apr 6, 2007, 8:35 PM
It is very strange to think how far behind Winnipeg's printed media is compared to other cities across the nation. I mean there is a very good arguement that the Winnipeg Sun is the premier paper in the city. I know its not very good, but the Free Press is much worse in my eyes.

I'd take the Regina Leader Post way before the Winnipeg Free Press. The quanity and quality of the content is not even close. Of course Regina is about a quater of the size... :koko:

Its looking like a take over target.. and Canwest has always been interested in owning the hometown paper. It would definatly improve the city's printed media coverage by at least 10 to 20 times.

Imagine having a real paper.. one which actually reports 365 days a year. With.. you know real sections .. on local news, national news, world news, business news (local and national/international and quotes), sports (local and national/international) .. instead of a weak condenced summary of each as it has now. It makes me wonder whether Peggers know how much they are missing.

bc2mb
Apr 6, 2007, 10:04 PM
trust me, canwest has been trying to buy the WFP for years... but the price is too high in their view.

still... things are getting really cozy between the two companies... there's global news video on the WFP website and CanWest MediaWorks also does their media buying now.

i'd say within the next 2 years there will be a deal.

bc2mb
Apr 6, 2007, 10:05 PM
also agree that even the Regina LP and Saskatoon SP are superior papers.

Calgary Herald, Montreal Gazette and Vancouver Sun are the best ones in my opinion.

jimj_wpg
Apr 6, 2007, 11:09 PM
There are rumours that FP Trust (Free Press) is an active takeover target. This can be nothing but great news. Weither its Thompson or Canwest the level of content will be greatly enhanced if a takeover were to happen. :tup:

It is very strange to think how far behind Winnipeg's printed media is compared to other cities across the nation. I mean there is a very good arguement that the Winnipeg Sun is the premier paper in the city. I know its not very good, but the Free Press is much worse in my eyes.

I'd take the Regina Leader Post way before the Winnipeg Free Press. The quanity and quality of the content is not even close. Of course Regina is about a quater of the size... :koko:

Its looking like a take over target.. and Canwest has always been interested in owning the hometown paper. It would definatly improve the city's printed media coverage by at least 10 to 20 times.

Imagine having a real paper.. one which actually reports 365 days a year. With.. you know real sections .. on local news, national news, world news, business news (local and national/international and quotes), sports (local and national/international) .. instead of a weak condenced summary of each as it has now. It makes me wonder whether Peggers know how much they are missing.

I don't know why you think that if Thompson Newspapers bought up the Free Press again, that doing so would magically transform the newspaper and double the number of content pages.

They owned it between 1980 (the day the Trib closed forever) and 2002 (during the True North arena sh1t -- they bought up the Eaton's building and eaton place that's why they were so rah-rah in favour of the Arena).

I would much rather prefer Canwest buy it up, since Canwest is more of a Canadian company than Thompson is.

But I do agree with you that they would make the paper a tad more contenty. I'd too would like to see a good Business section and an expanded Local News section. Leave the National and International stuff to the Globe and the Post.

newflyer
Apr 6, 2007, 11:11 PM
trust me, canwest has been trying to buy the WFP for years... but the price is too high in their view.

still... things are getting really cozy between the two companies... there's global news video on the WFP website and CanWest MediaWorks also does their media buying now.

i'd say within the next 2 years there will be a deal.

The FP has had a declining balance sheet for the last number of years and are open to offers.

The current ownership group has bled the equity of the company and now need to look for altenatives.

I'd agree than when the paper was for sale a couple years ago the price it went for wasn't prudent, but I believe today will reflect a much more realistic value. I also look for it to be taken over within the next year if not sooner.

trueviking
Apr 6, 2007, 11:12 PM
I mean there is a very good arguement that the Winnipeg Sun is the premier paper in the city.


yeah, i dont think so....

Circulation

Winnipeg Free Press
Monday to Friday 117,966
Saturday 162,314

Winnipeg Sun
Monday to Friday 40,031
Saturday 38,992

since the free press is the most successful newspaper in its market in the country, i would suggest that most winnipeggers dont agree with your assessment.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3806/untitled1wh8.jpg

newflyer
Apr 6, 2007, 11:18 PM
I don't know why you think that if Thompson Newspapers bought up the Free Press again, that doing so would magically transform the newspaper and double the number of content pages.

They owned it between 1980 (the day the Trib closed forever) and 2002 (during the True North arena sh1t -- they bought up the Eaton's building and eaton place that's why they were so rah-rah in favour of the Arena).

I would much rather prefer Canwest buy it up, since Canwest is more of a Canadian company than Thompson is.

I am not taking favorites.. just that things will improve either way.

.. and I also agree the Free Press has been a mindless cheer leader, who refused to challenge the status quo. Which is the best arguement to why the Winnipeg Sun is the premier paper in the city. It challenges the those in power.

With that said I think it was very justifiable to support the True North Project as it was proven to be a massive success. If it did't go through it would still be an empty department store. It also lead MEC and A&B to invest in the area.. as the plans were on the table when they made there investment.

Now that A&B has closed I am hoping another retailer will soon take over that location. It recieved a good amount of investment and is ready to go.. just needs some paint on the exterior and a new sign.

I am not sure why you'd suggest Thompson media isn't Canadian ... as Canadian as you can get in my books.

newflyer
Apr 6, 2007, 11:20 PM
yeah, i dont think so....

Circulation

Winnipeg Free Press
Monday to Friday 117,966
Saturday 162,314

Winnipeg Sun
Monday to Friday 40,031
Saturday 38,992

since the free press is the most successful newspaper in its market in the country, i would suggest that most winnipeggers dont agree with your assessment.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3806/untitled1wh8.jpg

I never said it was the most read, just the best paper if you value content. The Suns numbers don't agree with those by the way .. I guess they can be fudged... but the financials don't lie.

newflyer
Apr 6, 2007, 11:39 PM
Actually the Sun numbers may include online readership...

Lee_Haber8
Apr 6, 2007, 11:41 PM
also agree that even the Regina LP and Saskatoon SP are superior papers.

Calgary Herald, Montreal Gazette and Vancouver Sun are the best ones in my opinion.

Can't agree with you more - I love getting a hold of a Gazette when I can.

theruler462
Apr 7, 2007, 1:46 AM
Seems to me the Freep lost some credibility a couple years back when they stopped publishing the stock quotes every day as opposed to only on Sundays. I just came back from Minneapolis and I found many similarites between both newspapers. The Star-Tribune has a much wider variety in terms of sections and content but the main section is still built the same. One article surrounded by advertising on all sides. You can't be serious though about the Sun being a better newspaper. Printing a couple AP or CP articles and calling it "world" or "business" doesn't cut it.

trueviking
Apr 7, 2007, 2:18 AM
.. and I also agree the Free Press has been a mindless cheer leader, who refused to challenge the status quo. Which is the best arguement to why the Winnipeg Sun is the premier paper in the city. It challenges the those in power.


the sun is not even a newspaper....its a mindless rag that bows to the lowest common denominator....it has a centrefold for goodness sake.

their editor actually responds with one line zingers to every letter to the editor if it isnt in agreement with his narrow minded outlook....its so bush league it isnt even funny.

regularily the front page is adorned by a full page photo of tom cruise or some random girl in a bikini....

....the herald/metro/lance etc. papers have more credibility

theruler462
Apr 7, 2007, 2:28 AM
amen

jimj_wpg
Apr 7, 2007, 2:29 AM
If the Free Press could become more like the Toronto Star in outlook and in its content:ad ratio, then it'd be a nicer paper.

I wrote about this subject in my blog last year:

http://jamesajaworski.blogspot.com/2006/08/who-are-they-writing-for.html

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 2:39 AM
the sun is not even a newspaper....its a mindless rag that bows to the lowest common denominator....it has a centrefold for goodness sake.

their editor actually responds with one line zingers to every letter to the editor if it isnt in agreement with his narrow minded outlook....its so bush league it isnt even funny.

regularily the front page is adorned by a full page photo of tom cruise or some random girl in a bikini....

....the herald/metro/lance etc. papers have more credibility

I'm not saying I'm a fan of the Sun... but honestly what editorials get people talking more? The Free Press is made up of mindless views. The sun publishes articles from the chamber and the taxpayers federation.. something the Free Press would never do, less it isolates itself from its union masters. Historically it has always be a left of centre paper and it hasn't moved to far from those roots.

What paper has a better sports page? ... the Free Press used to win this one hands down .. what happened?

What paper has better local news content?? .. not the Free Press.

What paper published 365 days a year... not the Free Press.. and you call that a real paper??? Not in my books. Get back to me when they take the news serious enough to serve it up fresh. This alone makes it the worlds biggest joke of a paper. No integrety to the job at hand.

Neither paper has a business section .. which is fine for a "mindless rag" .. but the Free Press is suppose to be a real city paper. Its an imbarassment to the city.

The Free Press can't be considered anything but the cheapest daily in Canada. Its horrible .. mindless editorials.. and minimum content to save costs... its more of a flyer than a paper.

Trust me .. when I'm in Winnipeg I pick up the Sun for local news and sports and then a National Post for everything else.

Its just too bad that Winnipeg doesn't have a complete quality newspaper... hense when the Free Press is taken over by a larger publishing company it will be a very good day for Winnipegers... hopefully it will be renamed The Winnipeg Tribune, as it was the last quality paper to carry Winnipeg's name.

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 2:46 AM
amen

The Free Press won't publish 2 of the next 3 days ... Its called no dedication to the profession. Can you imagine a TV station not broadcasting on holidays? :koko:

Then add this mis-step to the micro-mini Sunday and Minday version of this already limited content paper. No thanks. :rolleyes: .. it reminds me of the Calgary Metro .. without the content.

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 2:48 AM
the sun is not even a newspaper....its a mindless rag that bows to the lowest common denominator....it has a centrefold for goodness sake.

their editor actually responds with one line zingers to every letter to the editor if it isnt in agreement with his narrow minded outlook....its so bush league it isnt even funny.

regularily the front page is adorned by a full page photo of tom cruise or some random girl in a bikini....

....the herald/metro/lance etc. papers have more credibility

I don't ever recall seeing a bikini clad woman on the cover .. perhaps your mistaking it with Sports Illistrated?

If Winnipeg got anything close to the Leader Post or Star Pheonix I'd be a happy camper... if we got anything close to the Herald or Gazette I would be thrilled.

The Toronto Star is Toronto's problem. Lets just say everytime I see one I seem to chuckle at how people could pay money for it.

trueviking
Apr 7, 2007, 3:00 AM
well...362 days of a real newspaper vs. 365 days of winnipeg's national enquirer....good point.

i for one appreciate that they dont publish on christmas and easter....some things should remain sacred.

the free press does have a business section.

we all know you dont like it because it doesnt spew right wing propoganda...the sun promotes pot hole politics....the last 4 pages of every edition are dozens of ads for 1-900 numbers and escort services....

the sun is for simple minds.....their articles and editorials are shallow and simplistic.

dont get me started on your national post which cant buy a market share to save its life...it is single handedly destroying canwest as they try to ram right wing crap down the throats of a left wing country.....read it now because it wont be around for long.

trueviking
Apr 7, 2007, 3:08 AM
I don't ever recall seeing a bikini clad woman on the cover .. perhaps your mistaking it with Sports Illistrated?


there was one just last week...i think the headline was about how cold it was and somehow a bikini clad woman made that point.


here's today's....sensationalist headline...second story "sexy too soon"...great journalism.

http://www.winnipegsun.com/FrontPage/2007/04/06/winsuncoverl.jpg


here's today's centre fold in case you are interested...very legitimate newspaper you got there...

here's a link to their swimsuit edition..
http://www.winnipegsun.com/Photos/Swimsuit07/2007/02/28/3806409.html

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/576/untitled1tx1.jpg

trueviking
Apr 7, 2007, 3:12 AM
and they stole my photograph for their little magazine...they gave me photo credit, but didnt ask for authorization or offer payment....amateurs....

http://66.38.153.107/Profiles_index.htm

http://66.38.153.107/images/FrontPage.jpg

spiritedenergy
Apr 7, 2007, 3:18 AM
Winnipeg Sun is plainly stupid... i think they try hard to to brainwash people with their stupid articles... and those sunshine girls look like cheap sluts, i'd not do them even under torture.
The Free Press is ok but not the best, still better then that joke called sun.

I think the Free Press does have a business section, a sport section, an entairteinment section... i was reading it some days ago and there were all these different sections, i think it was saturday or sunday edition.

OT: today i saw a tv channel, Shaw Channel 9, and it was very nice, thy showed a lot of things going on in Winterpeg.

Brokenhead
Apr 7, 2007, 3:27 AM
The Freepress as a section called "City & Business" I think. Anyway, it's section B. It's in both weekdays and weekends papers.

Only The Lonely..
Apr 7, 2007, 3:46 AM
yeah, i dont think so....

Circulation

Winnipeg Free Press
Monday to Friday 117,966
Saturday 162,314

Winnipeg Sun
Monday to Friday 40,031
Saturday 38,992

since the free press is the most successful newspaper in its market in the country, i would suggest that most winnipeggers dont agree with your assessment.



I totally disagree..

Almost everyone I know, myself inclusive, would say that the Plum Coulee Times has harder hitting journalism than the Press Free.


This is indeed quite sad considering the Free Press was once one of the premier metropolitan dailies in the nation. In fact we were important enough that the Free Press and Tribune could make or break the careers of Hollywood Star's in Canada.

In fact, few of you would probably know this but back in the day (1961 to be exact) the Free Press almost destroyed Barbara Streisand's career. She hasn't been back to Winnipeg since. =)

The young teenage singer had a gig here in the city and was booed off the stage at the Town 'n Country club.

A Free Press reporter followed Streisand to her next gig in Chicago and at the press conference asked Barbara in a smug voice "Heyyy Barrrbaraa when you coming back to Winnipeg!?"

Apparently she broke down in tears and left the interview.

Of course that was back in the days when Winnipeg was an important city, with two big city papers (the Tribune, and the Free Press).

Today we just have the small times gazette, with bleeding hearts like Gord Sinclair publicly weeping about the belly button flint he through away.

Marc B.
Apr 7, 2007, 3:50 AM
I like your photo TV.

The only thing that really bothers me about the Free Press is the restricted on-line content for subscribers. Until a little while ago, it was all restricted, no? The Globe and Mail does it too and it's seriously irritating. Otherwise it's a fine paper with some solid journalism. The Free Press has reporters dedicated to working on local issues and civic politics. Not everyone likes Kives, I like him. I like Mike McIntyre too, he's gutsy. The sports section is superior, especially the Bomber coverage. There's no contest between the Free Press's editorial content and the Sun's. There's the array of weekend sections and specials.

The Star Phoenix doesn't run on Sundays, and most statutory holidays. I don't see its appeal. I lived in Saskatoon for three years and had a subscription that I allowed to run out because it was such a thin paper (though strangely heavy on back-door Crown corporation office politics, so if you're into that, well, there you go). I go back to Saskatoon often and pick it up. By any qualitative or quantitative measurement, it's not even close to the Free Press.

But, I like the Toronto Star too, so you can see where I'm coming from.

Brokenhead
Apr 7, 2007, 4:26 AM
Here in Beausejour we have two local papers - The Clipper (publishes Monday), and The Review (publishes on Friday). I think those two does the justice for a small town. It's only like 15-20 pages and free, but its okay.
The Clipper is better. The Review is written by two people I think, and one of them is a Newfie.

Opening of a new store or a restuarant could be front page news!! Beat that. Or a picture of scenery could be front page!~!

theruler462
Apr 7, 2007, 6:12 AM
left wing? union masters? did you read the editorials in the thursday edition? 4 out of 4 bashing the NDP's budget.

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 6:48 AM
left wing? union masters? did you read the editorials in the thursday edition? 4 out of 4 bashing the NDP's budget.

no .. haven't read it much since I moved to Calgary.


Perhaps I have to take another look. I would love to see that it has improved.

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 6:51 AM
and they stole my photograph for their little magazine...they gave me photo credit, but didnt ask for authorization or offer payment....amateurs....

http://66.38.153.107/Profiles_index.htm

http://66.38.153.107/images/FrontPage.jpg



Thats yours?? .. wow I have looked at that Business Profiles section a few times and have always thought it was a very good shot of Portage. Infact I have it in myphotos.

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 7:07 AM
well...362 days of a real newspaper vs. 365 days of winnipeg's national enquirer....good point.

i for one appreciate that they dont publish on christmas and easter....some things should remain sacred.

the free press does have a business section.

we all know you dont like it because it doesnt spew right wing propoganda...the sun promotes pot hole politics....the last 4 pages of every edition are dozens of ads for 1-900 numbers and escort services....

the sun is for simple minds.....their articles and editorials are shallow and simplistic.

dont get me started on your national post which cant buy a market share to save its life...it is single handedly destroying canwest as they try to ram right wing crap down the throats of a left wing country.....read it now because it wont be around for long.

Please enjoy your Toronto Star and your Free Press... I look down on them both... but then again I am a capitaist. :yes: I live the business world on a dialy basis .. and experience it first hand.

The Free Press does not have a business section.. its more like a business page or two. Please .. a section is not the last page and a half of section C which has the headline of Gardens or Classifieds or anything else.

I don't really consider reporting on the business news as right wing propaganda, but I am sure you are extremely threatened to read about Agricore United and the Sask Wheat Pool ... (not exactly Nazi material). Soooo scarey!! :omg:

Its so funny how threatened socialists are about the business world. :haha:

The National Post is actually an inexpensive paper to produce, as many of the reports are from the multitude of dailies from across the nation. This is the strong advantage CanWest Media has over its competitors. The reports are part of a media network. The Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and Calgary papers pretty well cover all the major news .. and they are suplimented with national news and other local news outside the major centres, which is then picked up by the local dailies as they see fit. I work in a large corporate office and the National Post is the most read. Perhpas it is directed to the business savey .. I agree its probibly not suited to the masses, but it does have the most informed business coverage in the nation. Probably expains the Bentley and Omega ads as opposed to discount stores.

Then again I was a subcriber when it was known as the Financial Post. You would have been scared out of your pants ... charts and graphs everywhere.... oh and the numbers .. very scarey propaganda. :jester:

trueviking
Apr 7, 2007, 7:10 AM
Thats yours?? .. wow I have looked at that Business Profiles section a few times and have always thought it was a very good shot of Portage. Infact I have it in myphotos.

thanks...yeah, my idiot friend gave it to them without telling me....it showed up at my door one morning and i was like...what the hell?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4214/downtown00pz3.jpg

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 7:23 AM
thanks...yeah, my idiot friend gave it to them without telling me....it showed up at my door one morning and i was like...what the hell?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4214/downtown00pz3.jpg

I'm impressed!! You'd be very interested in how I played with it one slow day. Added a few things here and there.

trueviking
Apr 7, 2007, 7:30 AM
The National Post is actually an inexpensive paper to produce, as many of the reports are from the multitude of dailies from across the nation.

Then again I was a subcriber when it was known as the Financial Post. You would have been scared out of your pants ... charts and graphs everywhere.... oh and the numbers .. very scarey propaganda. :jester:

here are some scarry numbers for you....since 2000 the national post has drained more than $300 000 000 out of canwest....it continues to hemmorage between $10 and $15 million every year.....maybe they should read their own business section.

newflyer
Apr 7, 2007, 2:55 PM
This is more of how CanWest utilizes it capital cost allowance.

rgalston
Apr 7, 2007, 3:25 PM
Free Press editorial board, 2007: promotes privatizing Hydro because it rips itself off by selling so low
Sun editorial board, 2007: whines that the NDP government is going to raise Hydro rates a bit

There's a difference between "challenging the status quo" and "populist crap".

spiritedenergy
Apr 7, 2007, 7:16 PM
Free Press editorial board, 2007: promotes privatizing Hydro because it rips itself off by selling so low
Sun editorial board, 2007: whines that the NDP government is going to raise Hydro rates a bit

There's a difference between "challenging the status quo" and "populist crap".

he must like populist crap, that's how i'd call most of his posts...

sorry, i couldn't help:frog:

newflyer
Apr 8, 2007, 7:16 PM
When the True North Project was on the boards, I had conducted some project research. One project that always peaked my interest was how well Nationwide Arena in Columbus. They converted this area which was an old and completely ignored area of the city.

This area is now known as the Arena District ... which is now a vibrant area with offices, multiple condo developments, restaurants, bars, theaters. A real thriving area .. born out of nothing.

I have always been disappointed at the lack of visionaries who haven't taken advanage of Winnipegs new arena to the same extent. I also always thought the city of Winnipeg should have marketed the area (one block in all directions of the MTS Centre) as the arena district. This area needs alot of attention, as it died with the decline of Eatons over the past 25 years... as well as the decline of downtown as a whole.

Yes the MTS Centre has made a positive impact to the area. A few more restaurants .. a revitalized Power Building and some much needed foot traffic in the area during the evenings. My point is this area has the major focal point to be much more.

Please take some times and look at these links.

http://arenadistrictliving.com/

http://www.arena-district.com/real-estate/leasing.php

http://www.arena-district.com/


Thoughts??

Only The Lonely..
Apr 9, 2007, 3:17 AM
When the True North Project was on the boards, I had conducted some project research. One project that always peaked my interest was how well Nationwide Arena in Columbus. They converted this area which was an old and completely ignored area of the city.

This area is now known as the Arena District ... which is now a vibrant area with offices, multiple condo developments, restaurants, bars, theaters. A real thriving area .. born out of nothing.

I have always been disappointed at the lack of visionaries who haven't taken advanage of Winnipegs new arena to the same extent. I also always thought the city of Winnipeg should have marketed the area (one block in all directions of the MTS Centre) as the arena district. This area needs alot of attention, as it died with the decline of Eatons over the past 25 years... as well as the decline of downtown as a whole.

Yes the MTS Centre has made a positive impact to the area. A few more restaurants .. a revitalized Power Building and some much needed foot traffic in the area during the evenings. My point is this area has the major focal point to be much more.

Please take some times and look at these links.

http://arenadistrictliving.com/

http://www.arena-district.com/real-estate/leasing.php

http://www.arena-district.com/


Thoughts??


From what i've heard, the Columbus arena and surrounding area is a success because of the NHL team they have there.

Jets aficionado's are always quick to point out that the potential of the area surrounding the MTS centre hasn't been realized because the crowds the Moose draw are too small.

I'd be interested to know if the Columbus arena is connected via skywalk to many other buildings.

In my experience, a lot of people park their car in the basement of Portage Place and use the skywalk to get to the game instead of walking outside.

Naturally, most of the businesses inside the skywalk are closed come evening so there hasn't been much of an impact there.

Furthermore, because so many people use the skywalk instead of the street the foot traffic on Portage isn't that noticeable either.

newflyer
Apr 10, 2007, 1:19 AM
From what i've heard, the Columbus arena and surrounding area is a success because of the NHL team they have there.

Jets aficionado's are always quick to point out that the potential of the area surrounding the MTS centre hasn't been realized because the crowds the Moose draw are too small.

I'd be interested to know if the Columbus arena is connected via skywalk to many other buildings.

In my experience, a lot of people park their car in the basement of Portage Place and use the skywalk to get to the game instead of walking outside.

Naturally, most of the businesses inside the skywalk are closed come evening so there hasn't been much of an impact there.

Furthermore, because so many people use the skywalk instead of the street the foot traffic on Portage isn't that noticeable either.

Yeah I always wondered why the skywalk businesses wren't open during event nights.

For the record the Arena District is not connect by skywalks... and yes they do have more foot traffic year round, but part of the is a result of the area attracting condo development and some office development. Add in some entertainment and dining and you can go there even when there isn't a game and have a good time.

1ajs
Apr 10, 2007, 4:31 PM
Free Press editorial board, 2007: promotes privatizing Hydro because it rips itself off by selling so low
Sun editorial board, 2007: whines that the NDP government is going to raise Hydro rates a bit

There's a difference between "challenging the status quo" and "populist crap".

WTF sell hydro are they off their fucking rockers!

newflyer
Apr 10, 2007, 10:01 PM
WTF sell hydro are they off their fucking rockers!

Why have one government head office, when you could have multiple power corporations in Winnipeg vieing to selling power. The ability of the free market to finance the expansion of power generation in the north is much stronger. Overall you'd see an explosion of investment and jobs, but since it would reduce the number of government workers the NDP would never allow it.

MB Hydro could remain as a utility company .. selling power locally and regulating the overall industry, but opening up Manitoba's energy industry to private investments would pay off huge dividends to the province. Its really obvious if you examine it objectively.

newflyer
Apr 10, 2007, 10:03 PM
Speaking of broadening the power industry in Manitoba.
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Province Wooing Mitsubishi

The Province is still trying to negotiate a deal with Mitsubishi to build wind turbines in Manitoba.
As CJOB told you first in October, the company is looking to set up a plant in Manitoba that could create hundreds of jobs.

Premier Gary Doer says no deal has been reached to this point.

Doer indicated if the company asks for too much in the way of incentives they will have to refuse the turbine maker's offer.

CJOB's Jeff Keele reporting.

Donovanf
Apr 11, 2007, 12:24 PM
1,000 jobs in province if talks succeed

Wed Apr 11 2007

By Mia Rabson
A Japanese corporate giant is looking at setting up shop in Manitoba.

Mitsubishi, known primarily for making cars, is negotiating with the province to establish a wind blade and tower manufacturing plant in the province, with as many as 1,000 new jobs.

The discussions -- underway since the province put out a call for proposals for additional wind power last fall -- are struggling, however, because the company is asking for more corporate welfare than Premier Gary Doer is willing to provide.

"The incentives are too high for the taxpayers of Manitoba," said Doer during question period Tuesday.

Doer had little choice but to acknowledge the negotiations with Mitsubishi when asked about the issue by Conservative Leader Hugh McFadyen during question period.

McFadyen's party got wind of the discussions and he said he had been led to believe an announcement on the new plant was coming sometime in the next two weeks.
Click here to find out more!
By raising it in the legislature, McFadyen was likely hoping to prevent the government from making a splashy, "look at all the jobs we're bringing to Manitoba" announcement on the eve of a provincial election.

Following question period, Doer tried to downplay the negotiations, saying as exciting as the opportunity is, he has to ensure there is a cost-benefit to the taxpayer. He wouldn't divulge what the company had requested but said the discussions are continuing.

"I don't want to create any false optimism," said Doer. "There is no deal. Are there discussions still going on? Yes. But I would say it's got a lot of distance."

Mitsubishi did not respond to a request for an interview Tuesday.

McFadyen said he fears the company needs so many incentives from the government because there isn't a welcoming environment to business in this province.

Manitoba is falling far behind on job creation compared to other provinces, said McFadyen. There were 10,700 new jobs created in Manitoba between March 2006 and March 2007, the seventh best in Canada. Saskatchewan, said McFadyen, had double that growth.

And that's because Manitoba is "out of whack" with the rest of the West on taxes, making businesses wanting to invest here look for government handouts to ease the tax pain.

"We're saying the government should create an environment in Manitoba where private companies want to invest and create jobs here," said McFadyen. "I think if you have to go too far in terms of government incentives, that's an indication of a problem with your economic environment."
mia.rabson@freepress.mb.ca

The Diva
Apr 11, 2007, 1:02 PM
I think Doer's perception of what is good for Manitobans (vis-a-vis incentives), and what most other people would say is acceptable for incentives are completely different.


Manitoba Chamber sticks to main theme
APR 11 2007 12:50 AM


The Manitoba Chamber of Commerce holds its 76th annual meeting this weekend in Winnipeg.
Chamber president Graham Starmer says they'll be sticking to their theme of making Manitoba a "HAVE" province..
Starmer also told the Winnipeg Business report on CJOB Tuesday night they plan to make an announcement Friday about the Museum of Human Rights. He says they'll be attempting to form a partnership with other Chambers and businesses around the province with the aim of raising funds towards the construction of the facility..

Starmer adds the keynote speakers at the Annual Conference are from Chicago, Toronto and Atlantic Canada..

CJOB's Robert Holland reporting

newflyer
Apr 11, 2007, 10:58 PM
:previous:

The tide is turning .. :tup:

Donovanf
Apr 14, 2007, 1:10 PM
Entrepreneurs at heart, Manitobans reveal in poll
Many believe businesses make valuable contribution

Sat Apr 14 2007

By Martin Cash
MANITOBANS are more interested in starting their own business, taking risks in creating more prosperity and being more innovative than people in Ontario or the United States, according to the results of a new survey.

More than 1,100 people completed a website survey set up by the Manitoba Chambers of Commerce in an effort to gauge Manitobans' views and attitudes about the future prosperity of the province.

Chamber officials were caught off guard by the number of people who completed the survey who said they want to start their own business, and the number who believe businesses make an important contribution to the prosperity of the province.

"There are an awful lot of people out there who want to start their own business and support entrepreneurialism in the province," said the chambers' president, Graham Starmer.

The survey is part of the chambers' campaign to generate ideas about how to energize the provincial economy and raise awareness about economic dynamics, called Making Manitoba a 'Have' Province.

"People are more willing to embrace innovation and risk-taking than we might have thought," Starmer said.
Click here to find out more!
Although there is no statistically valid margin of error in the survey, the results paint a picture of Manitobans being predisposed to value entrepreneurialism. They hold entrepreneurs and small business owners in higher regard than doctors and university professors. More than 30 per cent of respondents said they were very interested in starting their own business.

Bill Smith, executive director of the Manitoba Research Institute, a think-tank recently created by the Manitoba chambers, said there are some important messages in the survey.

"It seems to tell us that people are saying that the days of asking what government can do for business are over," Smith said. "I think people are saying that there is a role for business people to take some leadership. It's not just about asking government to lower taxes."

David Guberman, owner of Telexperts, a Winnipeg telecommunications equipment company, said he thinks Winnipeggers do hold entrepreneurs in high regard.

"This is a small town and business people have to earn every penny they make," he said. "Most business people I know have fairly up-beat attitudes because we have to earn every penny we make and we can't afford to burn bridges."

Shelley Werner is the co-owner of Smart Furniture For Business inc. a five-year-old business furniture company. She has been self-employed for close to 20 years.

"I think many people in Winnipeg actually know someone who owns their own business," she said. "In this community, unlike in larger cities like Toronto for instance, there is a sense that owning your own business is something that is accessible to just about anyone. You look all around and there are all sorts of homegrown businesses."

Starmer said the strength of the results mean the chamber will work hard at figuring out ways to unlock that pent-up demand.
"There is a lot of enthusiasm out there," he said. "We have to figure out what is inhibiting people from starting new businesses."

martin.cash@freepress.mb.ca

Making Manitoba a 'have' province

More than 1,000 Manitobans participated in an online survey conducted by the Manitoba Chambers of Commerce gauging attitudes and the level of commitment people have in building a more competitive and prosperous province. The results showed that Manitobans are even more predisposed to become risk-taking entrepreneurs than people who filled out similar surveys in the U.S. and Ontario.

One of the survey questions was: If you won $2 million in the lottery, which one of the following would you most likely do with the money? Here's what percentange of Manitoba respondents said they would do, compared with Ontarians:

newflyer
Apr 14, 2007, 2:32 PM
:previous:

:D :tup: :D

biguc
Apr 14, 2007, 5:12 PM
I think Doer's perception of what is good for Manitobans (vis-a-vis incentives), and what most other people would say is acceptable for incentives are completely different.




Doer's Manitobans are union bosses. Hence the maintenance of a tax wedge that slows employment growth--giving unions greater leverage and their bosses fatter wallets.

And that article is more poorly written than usual. For example:

"...he has to ensure there is a cost-benefit to the taxpayer."

That makes no sense.

newflyer
Apr 15, 2007, 6:19 AM
Doer's Manitobans are union bosses. Hence the maintenance of a tax wedge that slows employment growth--giving unions greater leverage and their bosses fatter wallets.

And that article is more poorly written than usual. For example:

"...he has to ensure there is a cost-benefit to the taxpayer."

That makes no sense.

:previous:

You are so right .. Doer and the big unions are connected at the hip. Pulling the economy down to make the unions rich .. thus able to fund the NDP. Continiuos government cost over runs are only the tip of the iceberg. Government buracracy is growing at a staggering rate. This is where the high taxes are going.. and thus keeping our economy in its stagnant rut.

Time to build the economy into a something great!!! Cut the payroll tax and create jobs... and make Manitoba a better place to invest.

Doer and his union buddies have to go. Lets make Manitoba a have province!!

The Diva
Apr 15, 2007, 2:55 PM
Sounds like he is ready for an election. Let's hope Manitobans wake the hell up and send his ass outta the leg'

Only The Lonely..
Apr 15, 2007, 3:54 PM
I'd be delighted to see change on Broadway, but I think we all know that Doer isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

newflyer
Apr 15, 2007, 4:11 PM
I'd be delighted to see change on Broadway, but I think we all know that Doer isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

We have to work to get him out .. or it will be another 4 years of FAT government and very little to attract more private investment.

4 more years of ignoring the economy.

4 more years of keeping his big unions friends in the lap of luxury as the rest of Manitoba is left to sink or swim.

4 more years of keeping Manitoba among the highest taxed regions in North America.


I really think Manitoba has much too much to lose to just sit back and watch the NDP win another election do to provincial appathy or lack of provincal vision of a better future.

newflyer
Apr 15, 2007, 5:13 PM
On the other end of the spectrum....

Here is an article from the Downtown Biz website.

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Downtown housing incentives set
Apr. 03, 2007

Downtown housing incentives set
Expanded tax refunds planned

Tue Apr 3 2007

By Bartley Kives of the Winnipeg Free Press

THE City of Winnipeg is close to unveiling a small battery of incentives to create more housing downtown and redevelop vacant buildings in the heart of the city.

City planners are working on expanding existing tax refunds that speed the construction of new condominium and apartment buildings in downtown Winnipeg, the new president of development agency CentreVenture said on Monday.

Other sources say the city is also planning to stimulate the redevelopment of empty buildings and vacant lots through a mechanism known as a tax-increment financing zone. The gist is, increased property taxes generated by improvements within a specific portion of downtown could be funnelled back into other projects in the same area -- instead of that tax money flowing straight into city coffers.

A report recommending both forms of incentives is expected at city council within weeks, thanks to the political push provided by last May's Winnipeg City Summit and campaign promises made by Mayor Sam Katz in September.

"We all hope to see something in the near future which looks at accelerating incentives to the private sector to encourage housing, and specifically housing in the downtown," said Coun. Russ Wyatt, who chairs city council's downtown development committee.

"That was one of the issues we heard coming out of the city summit and it's one of the issues we keep hearing about over and over again.

"For downtown revitalization to be successful, we need to have more residential properties and more people living downtown."

"As the taxes are paid to the city, they're refunded back to the developer," explained Ross McGowan, CentreVenture's new president and CEO, who was summoned to address Wyatt's downtown committee on his first day on the job.

The city doesn't actually commit any new money to the program because the refunds represent cash the city would not have collected if the incentives were not in place, he explained.

"These tax credits will be here for five or six years but the benefits will be here 50, 60 years down the road," McGowan said. "Rather than having a vacant parcel of land that's not generating any revenue, let's bring it on to the tax rolls."

The tax-increment financing zone being considered by the city would cover all sorts of developments, not just housing. In essence, it allows any new taxes the city collects from improved properties inside the zone to fund even more improvements, such as streetscaping or more developments -- instead of just penalizing property owners for making improvements.

Sources say city planners are still in the midst of deciding what portions of downtown would be designated a tax-increment financing zone, pending city council approval.

Both Wyatt and Mayor Sam Katz said Winnipeggers should get a peek at the proposed downtown incentives in the near future.
"There's a lot of work going on behind the scenes to make sure we're going to get the biggest bang for the dollar that we can, and that it will be a success," Wyatt said.

"It's no secret that housing is a big priority of mine and more people living downtown is a priority, too," added Katz.

Since the mid-1960s, downtown Winnipeg has undergone dozens of revitalization efforts, including megaprojects such as the Centennial Centre complex on Main Street, Portage Place, The Forks and MTS Centre.

The city's existing tax refund program has been credited for stimulating the construction of high-end condominiums along Waterfront Drive. City council and CentreVenture hope an expanded program will also stimulate the creation of more affordable downtown housing.


How it would work

Mechanisms for revitalizing downtown Winnipeg.

1. MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING GRANT PROGRAM

Status: A three-year pilot program under review by city planners.

What it does: Stimulates the development of multi-family dwellings such as condominium and apartment buildings in designated improvement zones, including downtown Winnipeg.

How it works: Essentially, this is a tax rebate that allows developers of new condo or apartment buildings to recover part of their construction costs. Right now, developers can reclaim a maximum of $250,000 per building in the form of tax rebates, which are paid back to the city as taxes are collected. Rebates can be paid back up to a maximum of six years.

Proposed changes: City planners are thinking about making the rebate based on the number of units in the building, which would allow developers of even larger condos or apartments to recover even more money.

2. TAX-INCREMENT FINANCING ZONE

Status: Proposed revitalization measure. Currently in place in dozens of North American cities, including major centres such as Chicago and San Antonio.

What it would do: Stimulates the redevelopment of existing buildings or empty lots in depressed areas by allowing property owners to make improvements that market forces alone would not support.

How it would work: First, the city sets a property-tax benchmark for buildings and lots within a designated area of downtown Winnipeg. When owners renovate or otherwise improve those properties, the resulting tax increases from future assessments are diverted from city coffers and funnelled back into other improvements in the immediate area, which can include more renovations by the same developer. The diversion of tax funds would take place for a set amount of time, such as five, 10 or even 20 years.

Where exactly would this happen? City planners are still working on that, sources say.
e is an article from the Downtown Biz website.


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Finally a political leader in Manaitoba who has figured it out. Attract investment and build momentum in the downtown.

Just what the doctor ordered!! Sam Katz is a great leader.

Great things are starting to happen at the city level. :tup: :tup: :tup:

Boreal
Apr 15, 2007, 8:51 PM
In case anyone has forgotten, nobody in Manitoba gets voted in. People get voted out.

It isn't Doer's time to get voted out yet. I wish it was, but unfortunately, I'd be lying if I didn't say I'd be completely shocked not to see him get re-elected.

However, I don't lose much sleep over it, because I think Hugh McFadyen is equally hapless, with better words coming out of his mouth. The only leader, provincially, that I like, is Dr. Jon Gerrard, but his Liberals have a better chance of become the Ba'athist leaders in Iraq than the empowered part in Manitoba provincial affairs.

newflyer
Apr 17, 2007, 2:38 AM
Cambrian Posts Strong Year end

The Cambrian Credit Union has reported a strong year end result.
The 212.7 million dollars in assets in 2006 brings its total to more than 1.3 billion.
Cambrian also reported its highest ever net income at 12.1 million dollars.

President and CEO Tom Bryk says that was driven in part, by the strong local demand for mortgages and other financial services.

CJOB News

newflyer
Apr 23, 2007, 10:16 PM
Banking on Winnipeg
CIBC opens 'wholesale' branch
By JOYANNE PURSAGA, SUN MEDIA


It's a wholesale banking branch built on a vote of confidence in the Winnipeg economy.

Brian Shaw, chairman and CEO of CIBC World Markets, said the city's strong regional economy enticed his company to open a new wholesale banking branch on the fifth floor of the Richardson Building last week.

"That's evidence there are a fair number of things going on in the community and our skills match what's needed," said Shaw from his home in Toronto.

Wholesale banking primarily serves large companies and investors. Shaw said merger and acquisition services account for a key part of the business.

Shaw said its new office will be the only bank-owned investment bank in the city. It has attracted several new local clients this year, including Artis REIT, Exchange Industrial Income Fund and CanWest Global Communications.


The company was the largest equity underwriter in Canada in each of the last six years and includes provincial and municipal governments, New Flyer Industries and the North West Company in its client base.

"There's a number of private companies that we would described as small capital, (middle) capital in size and we also want to work with them," said Shaw. "That private sector is doing really well in Winnipeg."

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Winnipeg's corporate community is drawing attention .. underwriting and M&A activity is the big business.

This is a very big vote of confidence in Winnipeg's future economy. :tup: :tup: :tup:

newflyer
May 1, 2007, 12:31 AM
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5208/iceland2hl8.jpg

There seems to be alot of Icelantic interest in Winnipeg lately. With the annoucement of the Icelandtic Bank locating a branch in downtown Winnipeg and a direct flight to Iceland coming to Winnipeg, good things are happening.

Now the President of Iceland has come to address the Winnipeg Chamber. :tup: :tup: :tup:

WpG_GuY
May 1, 2007, 7:23 PM
Expert discusses how to attract Young and Restless
winnipegfirst.ca

Attracting young, mobile, highly educated workers to Winnipeg was the focus of the keynote speech this morning at the Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce's Leadercon 07 conference.

American economist Joseph Cortright, who has written about the factors that cause the 25 to 34 age group to migrate from one city to another, spoke to a business audience about ways to stem the brain drain.

With baby boomers set to retire, the number of women in the workforce at a plateau, and no significant increase foreseen in college attainability, there is a major workforce shortage on the horizon for North America, Cortright says.

According to Cortright's research, by a two-to-one margin, people choose where they would like to live and then try to find work, rather than the opposite.

Cities that are welcoming to new and diverse people and ideas, that strive to be the best at something, and take risks to achieve their goals are the most attractive, says Cortright.

Another finding is that the "Creative Class" is increasing interested in living within three miles of a city's central business district.

Creating vibrant urban neighbourhoods is a major magnet for the types of young professionals who will stay permanently in a city and help its economy grow.

newflyer
May 17, 2007, 11:22 PM
Thu, May 17, 2007

New Flyer signs deal for 715 buses


New Flyer Industries has signed a deal to produce up to 715 buses for an American public transit agency in a deal that could be worth as much as US $514 million.

The Winnipeg-based manufacturer was recently awarded a contract for 22 hybrid buses and up to 493 diesel or hybrid buses for King County Metro in Seattle. The contract also includes up to 200 "assignable option" buses.

In 2003, Kind County ordered 213 hybrid buses from New Flyer, the largest-ever order of hybrid buses at the time.

"This is very gratifying for New Flyer," said New Flyer president and CEO John Marinucci in a press release. "It shows tremendous confidence in our innovative hybrid product line."

New Flyer is one of the leading manufacturers of heavy-duty transit buses in North America.

newflyer
May 17, 2007, 11:24 PM
:previous:

Congrats to Seatle on buying some very great buses!! :D .. looks good with your mocha java.

Winnipegger
May 18, 2007, 1:31 AM
Its nice to know our Provinces and our Cities' economy is growing. Thats some interesting information. We sure are turning into a "have" province. All we need is some oil and Mr. Bush and we're set!;)

Biff
May 18, 2007, 1:37 PM
Winnipeg is starting to lose reputation as wholesale town


Fri May 18 2007

By Martin Cash


According to some, the first four years of Destination Winnipeg's existence has coincided with the city starting to lose its reputation as a wholesale town.

"That's a good thing," said Bob Silver, outgoing chairman of the city's economic development agency. "I hope Winnipeg becomes a retail city. In five years' time I hope people are still talking about rising house prices because that will mean a stronger economy."

The annual general meeting of Destination Winnipeg is typically an occasion for feel-good pats on the back to staff, volunteers and the city fathers.

But at this year's event on Thursday, the organization had an impressive number of achievements to point to, not least of which is rising real estate prices in the last few years after a decade of no growth.

Destination Winnipeg, whose responsibility is to market the city and help facilitate economic development and tourism, is funded primarily by the city and the province in equal portions. Its annual budget was increased by five per cent last year to $3.2 million.

Silver (who owns a substantial share of the Winnipeg Free Press) said achievements in the city have come about because of a collective will to get them done and suggested that the city will need more of that in the future.

He reminded the audience about naysayers who denigrated the idea of Esplanade Riel, the construction of the MTS Centre and Waterfront Drive, noting that all of them are now seen as significant landmarks in the city.

"We spent so much time worrying about the cost of a toilet (on the Esplanade Riel)," Silver said. "It's time to get off the toilet and start talking about the bridge."

The agency has completed its first three year plan recording growth in the number of visitors to the city and the number of meetings and conventions between 2003 and 2006.

Silver, who is stepping down as chairman of the board in August, said the agency does not take credit for the city's achievements.

"It is a continuum," he said. "We are on a track and we keep going."

That track has seen the city host the 2005 Juno Awards, the 2006 Grey Cup and the 2007 World Women's Hockey Championship, all of which Destination Winnipeg helped organize.

The city already has the 2008 Canadian Country Music Awards and the 2008 Tim Horton's Briars curling tournament lined up.

Construction of the Manitoba Hydro tower on Portage Avenue and development of the Canadian Museum for Human Rights are seen as important events for the city to work with.

Stuart Duncan, CEO of Destination Winnipeg, said what's even more important than past successes are excellent new opportunities on the horizon.

"The Canadian Human Rights Museum is the kind of attraction that could generate a lot of attention for group tours to the city," he said.

For instance, the student and youth tour business is worth $10 billion annually in Canada. He said the new museum in Winnipeg is an ideal draw for that market.

martin.cash@freepress.mb.ca


What a difference

three years make


In 2003 Destination Winnipeg set out a three- year plan to help grow the Winnipeg economy. Comparing levels in 2003 to 2006 shows significant growth in the city.


2003 to 2006 increases


GDP 8.2 per cent

Retail sales 22.3 per cent

Building permit values 32.2 per cent

Overnight tourism

spending 11.6 per cent

Personal disposable

income (per capita) 11.7 per cent

Population 1.4 per cent

Employment 3.2 per cent


-- Source: Statistics Canada and

Conference Board of Canada


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© 2007 Winnipeg Free Press. All Rights Reserved

newflyer
May 18, 2007, 10:20 PM
:previous:

Things are really picking up. :tup:

You can really see momentum taking off, which is a very good thing. I can even sense a level of confidence, which has been missing since the Jets left town.

The Diva
May 19, 2007, 2:02 AM
Yes. Having the stigma "wholesale town" may have been fine 100 years ago, but not today.

newflyer
May 19, 2007, 2:01 PM
Yes. Having the stigma "wholesale town" may have been fine 100 years ago, but not today.

I remember hearing a news story which refered to Winnipeg as a discount city. Its not exactly inspiring to be the K-Mart.. or the Giant Tiger.. of the nation. :rolleyes:

Bring on some quality retailers.

The Diva
May 19, 2007, 6:11 PM
I would take K-Mart over any dollar store or Giant Tiger any day...

newflyer
May 20, 2007, 2:38 AM
I would take K-Mart over any dollar store or Giant Tiger any day...

Okay you are right, but still wouldn't brag if my clothes were from K-Mart.

1ajs
May 20, 2007, 3:45 AM
Okay you are right, but still wouldn't brag if my clothes were from K-Mart.

K mart is in the usa......

The Diva
May 20, 2007, 10:57 AM
Okay you are right, but still wouldn't brag if my clothes were from K-Mart.

But, but...Jaclyn Smith's line of clothing is at Kmart...and I love Jaclyn Smith....GO KELLY!

newflyer
May 20, 2007, 7:32 PM
K mart is in the usa......

Used to be in Canada when I was growing up, but the company was retracting due to hard financial times.

I remember going to the store at Portage and Cavalier all the time. Its now a Safeway.

1ajs
May 20, 2007, 9:17 PM
Used to be in Canada when I was growing up, but the company was retracting due to hard financial times.

I remember going to the store at Portage and Cavalier all the time. Its now a Safeway.

north gate had a K mart did it not befor it became zellars?

vid
May 20, 2007, 9:44 PM
I remember hearing a news story which refered to Winnipeg as a discount city.

Pffft. Bullshit. Thunder Bay blows Winnipeg out of the water when it comes to dollar stores per capita! We have at least 20 of them!

Yet we still lack a Giant Tiger. :shrug:

ScrappyPeg
May 21, 2007, 1:12 AM
Pffft. Bullshit. Thunder Bay blows Winnipeg out of the water when it comes to dollar stores per capita! We have at least 20 of them!

Yet we still lack a Giant Tiger. :shrug:

Once again, it takes a non Winnipegger to tell the Winnipeggers that all ain't so bad here! Typical. I think Winnipeggers invented self deprecation as a hobby.

Winnipegger
May 21, 2007, 2:39 AM
Instead of complaining, we should brag about all the nice specilizied bouteques on Osborne I drove past today. Like the Mix Tape, or The Crypt. No, I am not goth...

vid
May 21, 2007, 2:51 AM
Once again, it takes a non Winnipegger to tell the Winnipeggers that all ain't so bad here! Typical. I think Winnipeggers invented self deprecation as a hobby.

"I could be worse. You could be Thunder Bay."

viperred88
May 21, 2007, 3:41 AM
Once again, it takes a non Winnipegger to tell the Winnipeggers that all ain't so bad here! Typical. I think Winnipeggers invented self deprecation as a hobby.


you got that right, that kind of negative attitude just gets me to wanna move.

jimj_wpg
May 21, 2007, 4:22 AM
OT: today i saw a tv channel, Shaw Channel 9, and it was very nice, thy showed a lot of things going on in Winterpeg.

Videon's VPW and Greater Winnipeg Cablevision's GWC11 were much better, but you either didn't live here at the time or are too young to remember.

SHAW9 is nothing more than infotainment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infotainment) that is nothing different than reality-tv like programming but on a local level. VPW & GWC had interview shows about Winnipeg, cultural, political, historical produced by the regular citizens of Winnipeg, not some fashion model. Here's some clips:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=239529D976AB43A2 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=239529D976AB43A2)

Especially watch this clip, as it shows what equipment and help were available to produce local:
VPW11 Open - 1988 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uAM6NMUpYU)

And tomorrow I'll be adding another clip from VPW11. This one is from sometime in 1991 where Federal MP Dorothy Dobbie (PC Fort Garry) is interviewing Nick Diakiw about The Forks... development at the time and plans for the future... lots of footage of 1991 era Forks in there. Dorothy used this as a tool to communicate to her constituents... Nowadays though, politicians are starting to use YouTube...

vid
May 21, 2007, 4:27 AM
The Shaw TV stations suck. :( Ours has the ugliest enhanced screen in the WORLD.

newflyer
May 21, 2007, 4:30 AM
The Shaw TV stations suck. :( Ours has the ugliest enhanced screen in the WORLD.

Where is the Shaw Building in Winnipeg?

vid
May 21, 2007, 4:33 AM
I don't know. The Shaw Building in Thunder Bay is in a swampy area in the bush.

It used to be on the 5th floor of the Hydro Building, but thats now the city's welfare division.

And by enhanced screen, I mean on the community channel they have the bars with weather and local news on it, like CTV Newsnet before 2005, not a big screen on the building. :P

1ajs
May 21, 2007, 4:42 AM
Where is the Shaw Building in Winnipeg?

were vidion was

newflyer
May 21, 2007, 4:53 AM
I don't know. The Shaw Building in Thunder Bay is in a swampy area in the bush.

It used to be on the 5th floor of the Hydro Building, but thats now the city's welfare division.

And by enhanced screen, I mean on the community channel they have the bars with weather and local news on it, like CTV Newsnet before 2005, not a big screen on the building. :P

Ahhhh... well Winnipeg deserves a fancy Shaw Cable building. I mean look at what they have in Calgary and Vancouver.

And it should have a big screen on the building too. ;)

vid
May 21, 2007, 4:55 AM
Shaw sucks. They should take Videon back. Build a new videon building. :)

jimj_wpg
May 21, 2007, 4:56 AM
Where is the Shaw Building in Winnipeg?

22 Scurfield Blvd. in Fort Garry MB. Videon made a huge mistake in moving to such an inaccessible location back in '95. One reason I cancelled my cable back then, just to protest.

Old ads and CRTC Decisions list Winnipeg Videon as being at 2 Donald St. South, which is where that green and yellow strip mall is located. They were there until early '76... funny though, I remember Videon being at 651 Stafford St. for a very long time even in the early 70s... maybe their headend was there and their admin. was on Donald. I faintly remember the A&P at 651 Stafford St.

jimj_wpg
May 21, 2007, 4:57 AM
Shaw sucks. They should take Videon back. Build a new videon building. :)

And Thunder Bay could have Lakehead Videon back too, after an absence of 37 years. What was Maclean-Hunter like?

Hey Vid, could you find out at your public library vertical file whether Videon used the same logo in TBay as it did in Winnipeg?

jimj_wpg
May 21, 2007, 5:02 AM
were vidion was

Answer: Where the 'Vidiots' lived... Haha.:banana:

jimj_wpg
May 21, 2007, 5:08 AM
Shaw sucks. They should take Videon back. Build a new videon building. :)

I like this version of the Winnipeg Videon building from '90. Too bad I didn't have a better camera, I used a Kodak Disc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_film) which used super small negatives. If I could go back in time I would have used a 35mm or taken the picture earlier in the day before the sun moved to the west. Someone really good with with image editing would be able to replace the grey clouds with more pleasant clear blue sky-ish.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/160442788_799e0fc227.jpg

vid
May 21, 2007, 5:09 AM
From what I can tell, it looks just like our shaw building. :P

newflyer
May 21, 2007, 5:22 AM
I like this version of the Winnipeg Videon building from '90. Too bad I didn't have a better camera, I used a Kodak Disc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_film) which used super small negatives. If I could go back in time I would have used a 35mm or taken the picture earlier in the day before the sun moved to the west. Someone really good with with image editing would be able to replace the grey clouds with more pleasant clear blue sky-ish.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/160442788_799e0fc227.jpg

Ouch.. Winnipeg needs something better then that. Perhaps a fancy downtown location.

vid
May 21, 2007, 5:27 AM
It's a fucking cable company! :D Who cares where it's located??

It's better to have a TV station downtown. Get CanWest to finish that time square dealy they showed a while back.

If we could get Dougall Media to move into the old Eatons, that would really make our Downtown a cool place. :) They could use the space too, their little renovated fire station has more expansions than Joan Rivers has had face lifts. :haha:

newflyer
May 22, 2007, 1:05 AM
It's a fucking cable company! :D Who cares where it's located??

It's better to have a TV station downtown. Get CanWest to finish that time square dealy they showed a while back.

If we could get Dougall Media to move into the old Eatons, that would really make our Downtown a cool place. :) They could use the space too, their little renovated fire station has more expansions than Joan Rivers has had face lifts. :haha:

Well CTV has moved downtown .. CityTV is at the Forks .. can Global be far behind?

vid
May 22, 2007, 1:10 AM
Isn't Global in the tower?

1ajs
May 22, 2007, 1:15 AM
vidion
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7146/hererg5.jpg

newflyer
May 22, 2007, 1:17 AM
Isn't Global in the tower?

The corporation is in the CanWest Centre, but the broadcasting centre is on St.Mary's, in an old grocery store.

jimj_wpg
May 22, 2007, 1:18 AM
Isn't Global in the tower?

No, CKND studios have been at 640 St. Mary's Road in St. Vital since September 1, 1975. They want to move but haven't moved. I don't know what is taking them so long... maybe they're a sentimental bunch.

1ajs
May 22, 2007, 1:18 AM
Isn't Global in the tower?

no its not its here canwest global is in the tower not global tv
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3426/globalrn6.jpg

cbc ctv and city are all downtown
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3624/stationseh6.jpg

vid
May 22, 2007, 1:42 AM
What is it with TV stations occupying crappy buildings in the boonies?

We actually have a radio station here that has it's studio located more than 20km north of the city, in a community of about 50. You really have to wonder what they're thinking when they pick those locations.



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