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westcoast604
03-04-2007, 08:06 PM
Vancouver Suburb Construction Thread
Surrey City Centre Projects:
Infinity Phase 1
(36 Storey Residential)
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3358/surreyoverallsmalljj8.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8605/dsc01554em4.jpg
West Whalley Ring Rd & 108th Avenue
(21 Storey & 25 Storey Residential)
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4338/towers070223zk2.jpg
Quattro
(Four 28+ Storey Residential)
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4086/img44e9e6fe5fc5adf3.jpg
"Jung Ventures" Towers
(Two 37 Storey Residential)
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4365/twotowerselevationdb6.jpg
D'Cor Tower
(21 Storey Residential)
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1718/dcoriv3.jpg
Urban Village Phase 3
(40 Storey Residential)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/495/ultrazi8.jpg
Gateway
(34 Storey & 39 Storey Residential)
Gateway 2
(33 Storey Residential)
Optima On Hold/Cancelled?
(21 Storey & Two 18 Storey Residential)
Odyssey Tower 2
(26 Storey Residential)
SFU Surrey Residences
(11 Storey & 21 Storey Residential)
doc406
03-04-2007, 09:03 PM
great post . ..what site are those 2 37 story towers by jung located?
is it across the street from infinity?
nice post. here is another picture of infinity.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/TaIIon/Infinity.jpg
westcoast604
03-04-2007, 10:16 PM
^cool, thanks.
Yeah the 2 "Jung" towers are across the street from Infinity on East Whalley Ring Rd.
great post . ..what site are those 2 37 story towers by jung located?
is it across the street from infinity?
Yes, the two towers by Jung are proposed for directly across the ring road from Infinity. It was originally slated to be the 80 story tower, but then cut up into two smaller towers.
Has anyone heard any recent news about when phase 2 of Infinity will begin construction?
Regarding the pre-fabricated Optima towers; I'm pretty sure that the project has been canceled as IHI Development has run into some legal and financial troubles. It's too bad, I was really looking forward to seeing these state-of-the-art towers being built.
phase 2 of infinity should begin soon, there are some really deep pits around infinity 1.
Mike K.
03-04-2007, 11:14 PM
Nice! Thanks for the update.
Canadian Mind
03-04-2007, 11:49 PM
what are the heights of these things supposed to be? in meters or feet thanks.
Jeffy78
03-05-2007, 12:40 AM
Surrey is poised to be the commerical centre of the Fraser Valley. It will definately have its own distinctive look over the next 20 years or so. I'm pretty sure we'll see the tallest tower in the lower mainland built there.
crazyjoeda
03-05-2007, 12:55 AM
I didnt know that project was so far along. When are the other infinity towers going up?
skrish
03-05-2007, 12:58 AM
How fast is Surrey growing? Can it overtake Vancouver in population soon?
LeftCoaster
03-05-2007, 01:06 AM
^ Its growing very rapidly, i dont know the numbers (although im sure someone can fill you in), however it will take a while to overtake Vancouver, as it isnt exactly stagnant either.
As far as Surrey being the financial centre of Vancouver, this topic has been talked to death so lets not even bother again... some of us think it will, and some of us (myself included) dont think so, so lets just leave it at that. Despite this I do think it will one day be home to Vancouver's tallest tower, as it doesnt have height restrictions, and will assuredly continue to grow in both population and importance for some time to come.
How fast is Surrey growing? Can it overtake Vancouver in population soon?
Not for a few decades.....i think it's past 2030.
SpongeG
03-05-2007, 02:30 AM
it will eventually happen
Surrey has much more land than vancovuer does - i think its double or triple the size
westcoast604
03-09-2007, 07:45 AM
phase 2 of infinity should begin soon, there are some really deep pits around infinity 1.
Did tower 2 go on sale? Ive heard from a reliable source that the rest of Infinity is on hold now. Could be towers 4 and 5 however, as 2 and 3 seem to be approved.
Updated pic this week. Not much change, but different angle:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7638/dsc01577jm5.jpg
officedweller
03-09-2007, 09:54 AM
Yeah, I thought Phase 2 (Towers 2 and 3) was sold out.
vanman
03-09-2007, 01:23 PM
So why would the rest of the project be put on hold if the first three towers have already sold out? Maybe it has something to do with labour shortages/commodity prices
officedweller
03-09-2007, 09:24 PM
Could be. I'm surpised that Tower 2 & 3 haven't started yet if they are sold out.
CC420
03-10-2007, 02:45 AM
How fast is Surrey growing? Can it overtake Vancouver in population soon?
This little excerpt from a surreyhistory website I found should explain everything.
The 10 years from 1995 to 2005 has seen very rapid growth. A pro-development council has encouraged rapid growth well beyond the bounds of the traditional town centers. Residential developments in the Guildford/Fleetwood area, east and west Cloverdale/Clayton, west and east Newton, and South Surrey have been remarkable. Increased development of Industrial Parks in Newton, Sullivan, South Westminster, Port Kells, Cloverdale, and Campbell Heights has increased the amount of available employment within Surrey. The population of Surrey in 2001 was 347,825. The percentage change from 1996 to 2001 was 14.2%. By 2005 Surrey’s population is estimated to be over 400,000 with over 1,000 people a month moving into the City.
If these numbers are true. All I can say is wow. It's amazing and descusting at the same point. If you read the very begining of the excerpt, it will show you the pro development council killed Surrey's chance of really creating a special city. All 5 of the Surrey's centres should have at least one highrise and be connected by a number of B-line bus routes by now. This isnt unrealistic when you consider a population of now 400 000 plus. And to think this is all mostly single family or poorly planned townhouse developments. :yuck:
officedweller
03-10-2007, 08:25 AM
Surrey has some pretty compact new housing developments. Single family in and around the new YMCA are on 33 ft lots and are mixed with townhouses.
People generally don't move out to Surrey to live in a highrise, so densification will take some time out there as affordability drops.
fever
03-10-2007, 09:02 PM
The development out there is on compact lots, but it appears to be poorly planned from the air.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=14988+57+Avenue,+surrey&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&z=16&ll=49.107394,-122.806013&spn=0.007642,0.021629&t=k&om=1
doc406
03-10-2007, 09:28 PM
^cool, thanks.
Yeah the 2 "Jung" towers are across the street from Infinity on East Whalley Ring Rd.
according to the citys website .. ther eare two 36 story proosals at that site. . number 36. .by quibble creek development, not jung
http://www.surrey.ca/NR/rdonlyres/8625208B-E334-482C-B4E9-5B80E05CFAB4/0/DECEMBER312006_CITY_CENTRE_MAJOR_PROJECTS.pdf
http://www.surrey.ca/NR/rdonlyres/96BD58D2-ADC8-47F8-9CE6-4C0FCF0F13B4/0/majorprojectsinscc.pdf
even if it is jung, dont expect those towers to be built for a very long time ..they still havent complete infinity 1 yet . with no sign of towers 2 or 3 being built. they are going to complete the 5 infinity towers before they move on to that project. . so it will be at least until around 2011 or later before the towers even begin construction.
LeftCoaster
03-10-2007, 09:38 PM
This thread is almost depressing, as much as it appears like there is good news on the horizon, there is so much that should have been done already adn it seems everything in the pipes is stagnant or questionable. If only some more skilled labourers would flood into the city, then we could get some more of these projects on the go, and cut some of the construction costs down.
hollywoodnorth
03-10-2007, 10:15 PM
This thread is almost depressing, as much as it appears like there is good news on the horizon, there is so much that should have been done already adn it seems everything in the pipes is stagnant or questionable. If only some more skilled labourers would flood into the city, then we could get some more of these projects on the go, and cut some of the construction costs down.
it's been like that since Skytrain arrived. Give it another 20 plus years to see real change in downtown Scurrey.
officedweller
03-11-2007, 12:20 AM
The development out there is on compact lots, but it appears to be poorly planned from the air.
I don't necessarily think that curvey roads automatically means poor planning. Even in Vancouver, you have traffic calming measures to prevent through traffic. If there are walking shortcuts through the site (and I think I see some on the aerial pic), then that isn't too bad. I don't think you'll see a grid neighbourhood built nowadays because of the desire to keep cross traffic on the arterials around the neighbourhood.
fever
03-11-2007, 12:56 AM
I don't mind curvy roads at all, and grids only mean so much. I agree it's far from the worst example of sprawl. Actually, it's very similar to some parts of the southeast corner of the City of Vancouver, which goes to show that it isn't immune to poorly planned development.
David
03-11-2007, 01:11 AM
I hope that the city centre is redesigned fairly soon to provide shorter blocks and more roads. I walked through Surrey yesterday and it is so terribly unwalkable. All the people in these new developments are still going to be driving everywhere if it takes 5 minutes just to get from one cross street to another.
SunCoaster
03-11-2007, 01:51 AM
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7638/dsc01577jm5.jpg[/QUOTE]
/\ Is Infinity the project being built on the SE corner of 102 Ave and King George Hwy? I hadn't been in central Surrey for quite a while until a few days ago and so hadn't seen this huge, massive tower going up @ the intersection noted above ... as a result I damn near rear ended the car in front of me staring at this monster ... it seems to have a lot more bulk and height than most new towers in the GVRD ...
CC420
03-11-2007, 08:39 PM
don't necessarily think that curvey roads automatically means poor planning. Even in Vancouver, you have traffic calming measures to prevent through traffic. If there are walking shortcuts through the site (and I think I see some on the aerial pic), then that isn't too bad. I don't think you'll see a grid neighbourhood built nowadays because of the desire to keep cross traffic on the arterials around the neighbourhood.
Actually, Surrey is mainly a grid network of streets. Only in a few of these large developments do you get those dreaded curved suburban streets. I say the townhouses are poorly planned because there is usually no commercial space built remotely close to these developments. So people, while being concentrated in a small area, still have to get in their car to get places.
SpongeG
03-11-2007, 09:20 PM
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7638/dsc01577jm5.jpg
/\ Is Infinity the project being built on the SE corner of 102 Ave and King George Hwy? I hadn't been in central Surrey for quite a while until a few days ago and so hadn't seen this huge, massive tower going up @ the intersection noted above ... as a result I damn near rear ended the car in front of me staring at this monster ... it seems to have a lot more bulk and height than most new towers in the GVRD ...[/QUOTE]
yes thats it
the first of the 5 (?) towers for that site :banana:
twoNeurons
03-11-2007, 10:26 PM
Surrey, BC
Quattro
(Four 28+ Storey Residential)
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4086/img44e9e6fe5fc5adf3.jpg
Phase II Building B is being made available to people who were registered for phase I and didn't get to purchase.
Apparently they lowered the price for Building B units, they start $5,000 less than Building A... 114,400 for a studio.
It'll probably sell out within a few hours, but me wonders whether this is due to creative marketing or a market fear of being priced out of the market.
cornholio
03-11-2007, 11:31 PM
I hope that the city centre is redesigned fairly soon to provide shorter blocks and more roads. I walked through Surrey yesterday and it is so terribly unwalkable. All the people in these new developments are still going to be driving everywhere if it takes 5 minutes just to get from one cross street to another.
This is the official city center transit village plan. There are actualy 2 variations of this plan but they only differ in the location of the bus loop.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/surrey.jpg?t=1173652127
SpongeG
03-11-2007, 11:43 PM
Phase II Building B is being made available to people who were registered for phase I and didn't get to purchase.
Apparently they lowered the price for Building B units, they start $5,000 less than Building A... 114,400 for a studio.
It'll probably sell out within a few hours, but me wonders whether this is due to creative marketing or a market fear of being priced out of the market.
marketing
if you look at MLS you can find older units in the same area for the same price or cheaper
Volksboi
03-16-2007, 08:20 PM
Any news on the Urban Village?
officedweller
03-16-2007, 08:38 PM
Seems to me that those Urban Village blocks should be office towers instead (even if they have to sit underutilized for a while).
Volksboi
03-16-2007, 09:00 PM
Why would you say that? The reason i ask is because i bought in the "agenda urban village", and i am planning on buying in the the 40 story urban Village tower as well. I think the location is very ideal for condo's for the reason it being so close to so many admenities.
officedweller
03-16-2007, 09:21 PM
I was referring to the transit village map above (with the small floorplate condo towers), not a project called "Urban Village" - didn't realize that's what the reference was. Where is that project in relation to the map?
Yeah, but if Surrey City Centre is to have an office core, it should be central to the downtown. Gateway and King George should focus on residential, with the Central City area reserved for future office buildings.
i.e. the floorplates for office towers are usually much bigger than residential buildings - one office tower and you've angered lots of nimbys by blocking their views - then where do you put the office buildings IF its to be a dense commercial core?
Volksboi
03-16-2007, 11:03 PM
The Urban Village ( www.urbanvillageliving.com ) is located about 2 blocks from the Central City tower and Surrey Center Skytrain station. so on the corner of 102 and 132. Its going to be this huge development with 4-5 low rise condo's and 4-5 towers 40+ storys. Its going to mixed with retail and residentail. going to be quite the comunitie within its self. And i agree surrey does need a business sector, but i dont think The urban village will interfer with that goal, but only feed it with people willing to buy there products, or work for them.
officedweller
03-17-2007, 12:30 AM
40+? That's pretty high. A couple of blocks from the Central City should be far enough away - not to put a residential dead zone in the heart of a commercial area.
doc406
03-17-2007, 12:49 AM
Where did you hear that they are planning 4-5 40+ towers? i thought they were planning on building only 1 40 story tower.
As far as the office towers . .there just isnt a demand for office towers in surrey. Even in that transit village report, they admitted that realistically there will be 1 office tower built every 10 years so there is plenty of room for residential towers.. .but they to stop allwoing all these 4 story condos in the city centre. .what a waste of prime real estate
officedweller
03-17-2007, 02:37 AM
Yeah, the 4 storey condo is the extreme example of what not to do. They should at least preserve space for the office towers - just because once a condo goes up the land will be tied up practically forever (try getting a strata council to vote to dissolve and sell the building!)
CC420
03-17-2007, 07:32 PM
:previous: Isn't this developer just following the standard Vancouver model of point towers? I see no problem with this considering where the development is. I'd rather see less mixed use development in the city centre for the time being. Just simply because I would like to see another nice office tower in Surrey. Besides my desire for an office tower, I think seperating towers to strictly commercial and residential would help the street life in Surrey centre. As a mixed use development may confine people to the highrise complex they live and work in.
fever
03-17-2007, 08:57 PM
:previous: Isn't this developer just following the standard Vancouver model of point towers? I see no problem with this considering where the development is. I'd rather see less mixed use development in the city centre for the time being. Just simply because I would like to see another nice office tower in Surrey. Besides my desire for an office tower, I think seperating towers to strictly commercial and residential would help the street life in Surrey centre. As a mixed use development may confine people to the highrise complex they live and work in.
Does anybody know of anybody who does this? Would anybody want this?
I think Surrey will become attractive to commercial development once it becomes nice, and for that to happen it has to build up a half-decent retail street, and a good number of residents. Sure, condos shouldn't take up all the space but how many decades would it take before condos filled up Downtown Surrey, even if built at the same pace as in downtown Vancouver?
Surrey's downtown has far deeper problems to deal with now. There's no need to worry now about the consequences of it actually being successful. It can modify its plans later if a potential lack of commercial space ever becomes even a possibility. Downtown Surrey's as big as the downtown Vancouver, and it isn't constricted by geography. It likely won't ever have that particular problem.
officedweller
03-17-2007, 10:05 PM
It would have to be done by the City through zoning.
It would be nipping in the bud, the same potential problem that downtown Vancouver is facing with its commercial core and the encroachment of residential towers.
With the ownership structure of condos, it is unlikely that strata owners would vote to dissolve a strata (at least a highrise one) to sell to a developer. So if the prime commercial sites are developed with condos, it is unlikely that you could undo that in the future.
Reserving space for commercial space doesn't mean it would have to stay a strip mall or empty lot - it could still be redeveloped in the interim - i.e retail or small scale commercial that is more street friendly.
fever
03-17-2007, 10:24 PM
Surrey should fix its own problems before it tries to fix problems it doesn't have. There isn't a shortage of real problems in Whalley. There's no danger of it being swamped by condos.
In any case, I think it would be best to keep the larger floorplate office towers a little bit away from the centre of retail activity initially.
SpongeG
03-18-2007, 02:23 AM
thats where the safeway and a bunch of ugly strip mall stores currently are
will be good to see that area transformed
CC420
03-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Does anybody know of anybody who does this? Would anybody want this?
I think Surrey will become attractive to commercial development once it becomes nice, and for that to happen it has to build up a half-decent retail street, and a good number of residents. Sure, condos shouldn't take up all the space but how many decades would it take before condos filled up Downtown Surrey, even if built at the same pace as in downtown Vancouver?
Don't get me wrong here. I'm all for mixed use developmet.
My point about avoiding mixed use development for the time being was for fear of having highrise "forts" in Surrey. We all know Whalley isn't the greatest neighbourhood. Since this is a well known fact, the last thing I want to see is people living and working in the same highrise complex and completely avoiding the city streets. Whalley needs a higher influx of wealthy and medium wealth people on the streets. This influx would help push and "hide" the poorer population in Whalley. Just like Vancouver where there is still a large amount of poor people in the downtown. But with a larger working based population on the streets, it helps with the image of a vibrant "rich" city.
But yes of course, Surrey first, just needs to get some highrise development going.
officedweller
03-19-2007, 01:16 AM
True, offices create a much more vibrant daytime population than residential use - i.e. one that is able to sustain retail 5 days a week versus just weekends. Yaletown is a prime example - there's not too much pedestrian traffic when residents are off at their jobs during the week. Restaurants are the only businesses that seem to be able to make a go of it in Yaletown (at least in recent years with higher rents) - and they draw people in and operate when the esidents get back from work.
SpongeG
03-19-2007, 01:28 AM
i wonder how the new SFU residence will help - perhaps it will make cafes and such open up or stay open late - how many residents will be in the tower they are building? 200 or 500 students?
fever
03-19-2007, 02:16 AM
True, offices create a much more vibrant daytime population than residential use - i.e. one that is able to sustain retail 5 days a week versus just weekends. Yaletown is a prime example - there's not too much pedestrian traffic when residents are off at their jobs during the week. Restaurants are the only businesses that seem to be able to make a go of it in Yaletown (at least in recent years with higher rents) - and they draw people in and operate when the esidents get back from work.
The most vibrant streets are the ones that are adjacent to as many uses as possible, bringing people to them consistently over each day and week. Robson street, for example, sits on the boundary of an office district and a residential district.
There's no reason to go to Yaletown in the day. There's too little office and institutional. The situation is reversed a few blocks away by the post office, and it's even worse. Both areas would be better if they were more mixed.
officedweller
03-19-2007, 03:28 AM
The most vibrant streets are the ones that are adjacent to as many uses as possible, bringing people to them consistently over each day and week. Robson street, for example, sits on the boundary of an office district and a residential district.
Agreed. Just concerned that the area could end up like a Yaletown rather than a Robson...
5 18 story towers going up in guildford. Was in the local leader paper.
fever
03-19-2007, 04:39 AM
My concern is mostly that too much unnecessary regulation would stifle initial development. And also that large floor plate office towers would deaden the street if they were located too centrally. I think that Central City is better where it is on the edge than if it had been located a little closer to the station.
Lee_Haber8
03-19-2007, 04:40 AM
The most vibrant streets are the ones that are adjacent to as many uses as possible, bringing people to them consistently over each day and week. Robson street, for example, sits on the boundary of an office district and a residential district.
There's no reason to go to Yaletown in the day. There's too little office and institutional. The situation is reversed a few blocks away by the post office, and it's even worse. Both areas would be better if they were more mixed.
I think Yaletown is going to see way more offices with the Canada Line being built. I remember hearing Vancouver city planners saying something about it on GVTV or something.
officedweller
03-19-2007, 07:38 AM
Yaletown proper has a 7 storey height restriction and there aren't really any developable parcels for office space other than near BC Place - and I think Concord already wants to build more condos there. So whatever will be built will be infill - i.e. like the office above the Yaletown Brewing Co.
WRT Surrey, if the offices get too far from the core, you probably hit single family home pretty quickly.
SpongeG
03-20-2007, 12:49 AM
there is that one odd building on 104th in surrey between guildford and surrey central
it looks like an office building or a multilevel mall but its completely empty
it sat unfinished for quite a while too - at least a year or two
there can't be much demand for office space in surrey?
officedweller
03-20-2007, 01:15 AM
I think that was supposed to be a Chinese mall of some kind but the developer ran out of money. If it's now office space, that wasn't the original plan. The Central City Tower is apparently fully leased now.
SpongeG
03-20-2007, 01:29 AM
yeah i think that was the original idea - i pass it a lot
it would make a good high school
it reminds me of one
there is another abandoned proect almost across the street - some kind of condos - they did the basement it looks like and than nothing more
its just an open hole with cement and crap
David
03-20-2007, 05:54 AM
Is this what you're talking about?
http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/surrey/2005/syh2005_340.jpg
SpongeG
03-20-2007, 06:14 AM
yes
it looks so out of place where it is
twoNeurons
03-20-2007, 05:16 PM
The RCMP was going to move into it... dunno what happened to that proposal
MolsonExport
03-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Nice to see the transition (much for the better) of my former working area, the former armpit of the lower mainland, Whalley.
Jared
03-20-2007, 06:18 PM
my former working area
you were a crack dealer?
:D
murman
03-20-2007, 07:03 PM
Nice to see the transition (much for the better) of my former working area, the former armpit of the lower mainland, Whalley.
What's the new armpit?
LeftCoaster
03-20-2007, 07:56 PM
^Abbotsford
hollywoodnorth
03-20-2007, 11:14 PM
The RCMP was going to move into it... dunno what happened to that proposal
nope they are building a new facilty from scratch near King George Station.
Volksboi
03-20-2007, 11:35 PM
I have a reliable source, this will be one of the largest developments on the central city area!
David
03-20-2007, 11:36 PM
Glad to see the thread stickied!
twoNeurons
03-20-2007, 11:46 PM
FYI, citygruv (http://www.citygruv.com/) in Surrey Central is selling to pre-registrants this Saturday.
Floor Plans & Prices :
Studio, 450 sq. ft. – from $99,900
1 Bedroom, 600 sq. ft. – from $183, 900
2 Bedroom, 2 Bathroom, 860 sq. ft. – from $240,900
Saturday, March 24th
Doors will open at 10 am sharp.
Is it just me or do those sq. ft figures look really small. I think they're aiming at the student market.
Volksboi
03-21-2007, 12:07 AM
i dont think the sqft is small at all, if they where building these 10-15 years ago, yes i would consider them very small. Apartments are getting smaller and smaller as time goes by, but on the same note they are being more efficient with the space. i bought a 450 sqft apartment in the urban village (Agenda), and im going to buy another one in there 40 story tower this spring. You would be very surprised what they can do with 450 sqft.
Jared
03-21-2007, 01:19 AM
FYI, citygruv (http://www.citygruv.com/) in Surrey Central is selling to pre-registrants this Saturday.
Is it just me or do those sq. ft figures look really small. I think they're aiming at the student market.
Like Volksboi mentioned, they tend to design things in a fairly efficient way (i.e. no wasted space on hallways etc). They're obviously meant for singles though.
vanman
03-21-2007, 03:09 AM
d'cor seems to be back on track, albeit with a new developer and a completely new design. There was an ad in the saturday sun.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/image_1024_02.gif
http://dcorize.ca
Finally Surrey gets a sticky. Sweet. :notacrook:
LeftCoaster
03-21-2007, 05:48 AM
I like this Surrey thread, but perhaps it could be renamed a Vancouver suburb thread, as there might not be enough chatter concerning Surrey alone, and the other communities around Vancouver would be well served to have their own thread.
twoNeurons
03-21-2007, 07:26 AM
^No way... give Surrey the respect it deserves... hehehe...
MolsonExport
03-21-2007, 02:39 PM
you were a crack dealer?
:D
Actually, in my former career, I used to run the local Toys 'R Us on East Whalley Ring Road (mid 90s).
Volksboi
03-21-2007, 10:09 PM
where does everyone find the pictures of the proposed tower that are going up in surrey? be cool to see what they all look like....
LeftCoaster
03-21-2007, 10:15 PM
Yea if someone who knew the area, and the associated projects, could make one, it would be cool to see a list compiled akin to that which hed kandi made for Vancouver proper... I know its alot of work, but hopefuly someone is up to the task, then a mod could move it to the front of this thread.
SpongeG
03-21-2007, 10:16 PM
surrey can be like what bellevue is to seattle...
androo3
03-22-2007, 07:04 AM
Hopefully not like Tacoma
cornholio
03-22-2007, 09:58 AM
I agree with turning the surrey thread in to a vancouver suburb thread. There just isnt enough going on to keep this thread lively and although there have been suprisingly alot of posts lately it will die down. If it included all the suburbs then the thread could be as lively as the vancouver one which is prety good with a average of about a new page per day.
David
03-22-2007, 06:17 PM
I agree. There's so much going on in all of the other suburbs but not quite enough in Surrey to warrant its own thread. I'd argue that Coquitlam has more actually under construction than Surrey does right now.
twoNeurons
03-22-2007, 09:17 PM
With surrey, though, I think it's because the development is pretty much concentrated on two areas. Guildford and Whalley. Whalley has one of the biggest visions and biggest hopes, methinks...
Volksboi
03-23-2007, 12:12 AM
I disagree, i think surrey desearves its own thread and disagree that there is not enough going on in surrey to justify its own thread. In my opinion there is more developments going on in surreys one area then any other area in the lower mainland. Im not saying all of surrey, but just in the whalley area. With major projects like The Urban Village ( 8 buildings, lowrise and towers) Quattro ( 8 buildings, Lowrise and towers) and Infinti ( 5 - 7 towers), and thats just to name a few of the developments in that one area. If you would like to discuss other areas as well, maybe start your own thread outlined to serve the area of your choice.
Cheers!
cornholio
03-23-2007, 01:30 AM
Or at the least the surrey threrad could become a south of the fraser thread...white rock, delta, langley, surrey and maybe abotsford + chilliwack. Another thread could include the rest of the north shore, richmond, burnaby, new west, tri cities and maple ridge and pitt meadows.
smasher000
03-23-2007, 02:07 AM
Um whoa. How did Surrey get it's own thread? I think it should be a Vancouver Suburbs Construction Thread. Perhaps a mod could fix it?
smasher000
03-23-2007, 02:57 AM
This is the Greater Vancouver Suburb Construction Thread.
Dictionary.com definition of Suburb:
A district lying immediately outside a city or town, esp. a smaller residential community.
Vancouver's Suburbs Are:
Anmore
Belcarra
Bowen Island
Burnaby
Coquitlam
Delta
Langley
Maple Ridge
New Westminster
North Vancouver
Pitt Meadows
Port Coquitlam
Port Moody
Richmond
Surrey
Vancouver
West Vancouver
White Rock
:jester:
David
03-23-2007, 06:16 AM
Well, I'll get the thread rolling by posting these pictures I took of the developments in Coquitlam Town Centre on Tuesday.
Obelisk
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Obelisk.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6053.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6055.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6056.jpg
(It is supposed to have a large retail store at the base, but I haven't heard if it has been leased yet)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6057.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6059.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6060.jpg
(ripe for development :P)
Westwood Village
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/WestwoodVillage.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6064.jpg
(this is Altamonte)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6063.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6066.jpg
(this view shows the new senior's centre at the base of Altamonte. The view is looking towards City Hall: this is going to be a "pedestrian spine" which will eventually connect from Douglas College in the north, down past the Aquatic Centre, City Hall, through Westwood Village, down High St to Coquitlam Centre)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6062.jpg
(Edgemont)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Edgemont.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6058.jpg
(looking up Pinetree Way towards City Hall)
Levo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Levo.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6052.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6054.jpg
(foreground is the site of Levo; background is Altamonte)
The Regency
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Regency.jpg
(a "resort retirement" building)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6068.jpg
Grand Central
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1874/glendrivenn3.jpg
(thanks phesto for this rendering)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6049.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6067.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6050.jpg
and just for kicks, this is the future home of the first H&M in BC at Coquitlam Centre
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6051.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6044.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6045.jpg
Jared
03-23-2007, 06:31 AM
Um whoa. How did Surrey get it's own thread? I think it should be a Vancouver Suburbs Construction Thread. Perhaps a mod could fix it?
it was started before the "suburbs" thread.
cornholio
03-23-2007, 07:10 AM
under construction in New Westminster
Azure Plaza 88 - 2 towers under construction, eventualy will include 5 towers in total
height: 25-30 stories
units: 2 towers - 404 residetial + 5000sq.ft commercial
developer: Degelder Projects
complete: 2008
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/477114.jpg
Victoria Hill - 2 highrises
height: ?(around 20 stories?)
units: 185 + 3681sq.ft of comercial space
complete: 2007
developer: Onni
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/337466.jpg
Quantum
height: 19 stories
units: 90 residential + 30 live work + 2 retail
developer: Bosa
complete: 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/quantum.jpg
News - 3 highrises
height: 15+15+16 storeis
units: 347
developer: Rykon group
complete: 2 towers 2006, 1 tower 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/news.jpg
The Point
height: 24 stories
units: 131 residential + 18 live work + 12 retail
developer: Onni
complete: 2007
http://onni.com/content/img/point/thepoint2_small.jpg
Century Point
height: 10 stories
units: 40 residential + 2628sq.ft commercial
developer: Century Point Residences ltd.
complete: 2007
No rendering
The Anvil
height: 9 stories
units: 100 residentail + 44650sq.ft office space
developer: United Properties
complete: 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/anvil.jpg
San Marino
height: 8 stories
units: 102 residential + 4236sq.ft retail
developerCP Developments Saperton
complete: 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/sanmarino.jpg
The Q
height: 19 stories
units: 140
developer: Aragon
complete: (2007-2008)?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/q.jpg
Aproved and Costruction Permit Issued
Larco Towers - 5 towers along the waterfront between 6th st and 8th st
height: 5 towers 25-30 stories
units: 911
developer: Larco Investment ltd
completion: ?
no rendering
*This development was aproved in the early 90's but nothing ever hapend until 2005 when Larco submited some changes by reducing the unit count from just over a 1000 to 911 and increasing the size of the promenade along the Fraser. It looked like construction might start soon but its now been almost 2 years and nothing. This is a very significant project by the way that would completly change downtown New Westminster and finaly conect it to the river.
Zoning planing issue resolved council cosideration underway
Port Royal
height: 22 stories
units: 142
developer: Aragon
complete: ?
http://web.bcnewsgroup.com/portals/uploads/burnaby/.DIR288/BE0914_Tower_1C_060914.jpg
The Beacons - 3 highrises - former saint Mary's hospital site/originaly 2 highrises proposed
height: 3x ?(20-25 stories?)
units: 552
developer: Embassy Development Corp
completion: ?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/beacons.jpg
Development application recieved at staff level - zoning/planing issues not yet resolved
Victoria Hill parcel K
height: 27 stories
units: 195
developer: Onni
complete: ?
no rendering
Dickenson st
height: 20 stories
units: 133
developer: ?
complete ?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/dickenson.jpg
Prelimenery review by design panel
Azure Plaza 88 1 tower
height: (25-35 stories?)
units: 240
developer: Degelder projects
complete: 2009
rendering at begining of post under Azure Plaza 88
OCP land use review by staff
Azure Plaza 88 1 tower
height: (25-35 stories?)
units: 160 residential + 180000sq.ft commercial + 35000sq.ft civic
developer: Degelder projects
complete: ?
no rendering
*This info is from fall 2006 and i havent updated it so there could be some changes
***Also there is a new proposed tower on Columbia street that will be around 16 stories high and will be built at the curent site of (?name) pub between 6th street and 8th street.
******I beleive i heared there are more towers that have been proposed but i dont have any info at the moment.
renthefinn
03-23-2007, 07:28 AM
^^Wow such a barren area to start a villiage in. Glad to see them densifying, but couldn't it have been in a more utilized area? I'd hate to live in one of those towers with nothing much around. Maybe I don't know enough about the area can you fill me in on the surroundings?
Cheers.
raggedy13
03-23-2007, 08:05 AM
White Rock:
U/C
Belaire
height: 12 storeys
units: ?
complete: 2007
developer: Marcon
http://www.viewwhiterock.com/home.php
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/472084.jpg
Construction pics from Nov '06
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/nov2006_04.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/nov2006_05.jpg
Miramar Village - 4 towers (demolition started for Phase 1)
height: 21+17+17+14
units: Phase 1 (21+17 storey tower) - 225 units
complete: Phase 1 - 2009, Phase 2 - 2011
developer: Bosa
http://www.miramarvillage.ca/images/main.swf
Phase 1:
http://www.waynekim.com/bbs/data/wboard/miramar1.jpg
http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/idl/vasn/20060729/26775-9409.jpg
White Rock Town Centre Redevelopment
Complete: 2011
Developer: Bosa
Includes:
-Miramar Village residential towers
-A new 12,500 square foot White Rock Visual Arts Centre
-Two outdoor amphitheatre areas
-Bryant Park rejuvenation
-Large public plaza
-72,000 sq ft of street front retail including grocery and liquor store
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/vision-01.html
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-homes.jpg
^Tallest tower now 21 storeys according to Emporis and article from the Vancouver Sun
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-community.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-financial_benefits.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-convenience.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-accessibility.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-quick_facts.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-faq.jpg
Volksboi
03-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Anyone have any new information on Holland Park?
twoNeurons
03-23-2007, 06:49 PM
I say start a suburbs thread in addition and see which one dies first... How will the collective of all the other Suburbs fare against "Surrey"
Volksboi
03-23-2007, 07:07 PM
i dont really care which one dies off first, as long as there is post about the updates in surrey, thats all i really care about. Its nice to have a space where i can come to from time to time and see if anyone has posted any updates.. I am interested in whats happening outside of surrey, and will obviously visit that thread too.
smasher000
03-23-2007, 07:51 PM
i started the suburb one. we'll see which way the ball bounces
LeftCoaster
03-23-2007, 08:54 PM
amazing! This is such a great thread, as these projects have such an impact on how Vancouver functions as a metro, but rarely get much mention in this forum... someone sticky this so we can keep it going!
Volksboi
03-23-2007, 10:21 PM
i dont see this as a contest, just a great way to share information.. personally i dont care which one gets more "hits"
Cheers
Volksboi
03-23-2007, 10:25 PM
Wow that White Rock development is unreal!
SFUVancouver
03-24-2007, 01:10 AM
Boomer seniors have cash and like established brands like White Rock.
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