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westcoast604
03-04-2007, 08:06 PM
Vancouver Suburb Construction Thread



Surrey City Centre Projects:


Infinity Phase 1
(36 Storey Residential)

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3358/surreyoverallsmalljj8.jpg

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8605/dsc01554em4.jpg


West Whalley Ring Rd & 108th Avenue
(21 Storey & 25 Storey Residential)

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4338/towers070223zk2.jpg


Quattro
(Four 28+ Storey Residential)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4086/img44e9e6fe5fc5adf3.jpg


"Jung Ventures" Towers
(Two 37 Storey Residential)

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4365/twotowerselevationdb6.jpg


D'Cor Tower
(21 Storey Residential)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1718/dcoriv3.jpg


Urban Village Phase 3
(40 Storey Residential)

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/495/ultrazi8.jpg

Gateway
(34 Storey & 39 Storey Residential)

Gateway 2
(33 Storey Residential)

Optima On Hold/Cancelled?
(21 Storey & Two 18 Storey Residential)

Odyssey Tower 2
(26 Storey Residential)

SFU Surrey Residences
(11 Storey & 21 Storey Residential)

doc406
03-04-2007, 09:03 PM
great post . ..what site are those 2 37 story towers by jung located?
is it across the street from infinity?

Lead
03-04-2007, 09:40 PM
nice post. here is another picture of infinity.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/TaIIon/Infinity.jpg

westcoast604
03-04-2007, 10:16 PM
^cool, thanks.

Yeah the 2 "Jung" towers are across the street from Infinity on East Whalley Ring Rd.

JMan
03-04-2007, 10:25 PM
great post . ..what site are those 2 37 story towers by jung located?
is it across the street from infinity?

Yes, the two towers by Jung are proposed for directly across the ring road from Infinity. It was originally slated to be the 80 story tower, but then cut up into two smaller towers.


Has anyone heard any recent news about when phase 2 of Infinity will begin construction?

Regarding the pre-fabricated Optima towers; I'm pretty sure that the project has been canceled as IHI Development has run into some legal and financial troubles. It's too bad, I was really looking forward to seeing these state-of-the-art towers being built.

Lead
03-04-2007, 10:33 PM
phase 2 of infinity should begin soon, there are some really deep pits around infinity 1.

Mike K.
03-04-2007, 11:14 PM
Nice! Thanks for the update.

Canadian Mind
03-04-2007, 11:49 PM
what are the heights of these things supposed to be? in meters or feet thanks.

Jeffy78
03-05-2007, 12:40 AM
Surrey is poised to be the commerical centre of the Fraser Valley. It will definately have its own distinctive look over the next 20 years or so. I'm pretty sure we'll see the tallest tower in the lower mainland built there.

crazyjoeda
03-05-2007, 12:55 AM
I didnt know that project was so far along. When are the other infinity towers going up?

skrish
03-05-2007, 12:58 AM
How fast is Surrey growing? Can it overtake Vancouver in population soon?

LeftCoaster
03-05-2007, 01:06 AM
^ Its growing very rapidly, i dont know the numbers (although im sure someone can fill you in), however it will take a while to overtake Vancouver, as it isnt exactly stagnant either.

As far as Surrey being the financial centre of Vancouver, this topic has been talked to death so lets not even bother again... some of us think it will, and some of us (myself included) dont think so, so lets just leave it at that. Despite this I do think it will one day be home to Vancouver's tallest tower, as it doesnt have height restrictions, and will assuredly continue to grow in both population and importance for some time to come.

mr.x2
03-05-2007, 01:13 AM
How fast is Surrey growing? Can it overtake Vancouver in population soon?

Not for a few decades.....i think it's past 2030.

SpongeG
03-05-2007, 02:30 AM
it will eventually happen

Surrey has much more land than vancovuer does - i think its double or triple the size

westcoast604
03-09-2007, 07:45 AM
phase 2 of infinity should begin soon, there are some really deep pits around infinity 1.


Did tower 2 go on sale? Ive heard from a reliable source that the rest of Infinity is on hold now. Could be towers 4 and 5 however, as 2 and 3 seem to be approved.

Updated pic this week. Not much change, but different angle:

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7638/dsc01577jm5.jpg

officedweller
03-09-2007, 09:54 AM
Yeah, I thought Phase 2 (Towers 2 and 3) was sold out.

vanman
03-09-2007, 01:23 PM
So why would the rest of the project be put on hold if the first three towers have already sold out? Maybe it has something to do with labour shortages/commodity prices

officedweller
03-09-2007, 09:24 PM
Could be. I'm surpised that Tower 2 & 3 haven't started yet if they are sold out.

CC420
03-10-2007, 02:45 AM
How fast is Surrey growing? Can it overtake Vancouver in population soon?

This little excerpt from a surreyhistory website I found should explain everything.

The 10 years from 1995 to 2005 has seen very rapid growth. A pro-development council has encouraged rapid growth well beyond the bounds of the traditional town centers. Residential developments in the Guildford/Fleetwood area, east and west Cloverdale/Clayton, west and east Newton, and South Surrey have been remarkable. Increased development of Industrial Parks in Newton, Sullivan, South Westminster, Port Kells, Cloverdale, and Campbell Heights has increased the amount of available employment within Surrey. The population of Surrey in 2001 was 347,825. The percentage change from 1996 to 2001 was 14.2%. By 2005 Surrey’s population is estimated to be over 400,000 with over 1,000 people a month moving into the City.



If these numbers are true. All I can say is wow. It's amazing and descusting at the same point. If you read the very begining of the excerpt, it will show you the pro development council killed Surrey's chance of really creating a special city. All 5 of the Surrey's centres should have at least one highrise and be connected by a number of B-line bus routes by now. This isnt unrealistic when you consider a population of now 400 000 plus. And to think this is all mostly single family or poorly planned townhouse developments. :yuck:

officedweller
03-10-2007, 08:25 AM
Surrey has some pretty compact new housing developments. Single family in and around the new YMCA are on 33 ft lots and are mixed with townhouses.

People generally don't move out to Surrey to live in a highrise, so densification will take some time out there as affordability drops.

fever
03-10-2007, 09:02 PM
The development out there is on compact lots, but it appears to be poorly planned from the air.


http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=14988+57+Avenue,+surrey&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&z=16&ll=49.107394,-122.806013&spn=0.007642,0.021629&t=k&om=1

doc406
03-10-2007, 09:28 PM
^cool, thanks.

Yeah the 2 "Jung" towers are across the street from Infinity on East Whalley Ring Rd.


according to the citys website .. ther eare two 36 story proosals at that site. . number 36. .by quibble creek development, not jung

http://www.surrey.ca/NR/rdonlyres/8625208B-E334-482C-B4E9-5B80E05CFAB4/0/DECEMBER312006_CITY_CENTRE_MAJOR_PROJECTS.pdf

http://www.surrey.ca/NR/rdonlyres/96BD58D2-ADC8-47F8-9CE6-4C0FCF0F13B4/0/majorprojectsinscc.pdf

even if it is jung, dont expect those towers to be built for a very long time ..they still havent complete infinity 1 yet . with no sign of towers 2 or 3 being built. they are going to complete the 5 infinity towers before they move on to that project. . so it will be at least until around 2011 or later before the towers even begin construction.

LeftCoaster
03-10-2007, 09:38 PM
This thread is almost depressing, as much as it appears like there is good news on the horizon, there is so much that should have been done already adn it seems everything in the pipes is stagnant or questionable. If only some more skilled labourers would flood into the city, then we could get some more of these projects on the go, and cut some of the construction costs down.

hollywoodnorth
03-10-2007, 10:15 PM
This thread is almost depressing, as much as it appears like there is good news on the horizon, there is so much that should have been done already adn it seems everything in the pipes is stagnant or questionable. If only some more skilled labourers would flood into the city, then we could get some more of these projects on the go, and cut some of the construction costs down.

it's been like that since Skytrain arrived. Give it another 20 plus years to see real change in downtown Scurrey.

officedweller
03-11-2007, 12:20 AM
The development out there is on compact lots, but it appears to be poorly planned from the air.

I don't necessarily think that curvey roads automatically means poor planning. Even in Vancouver, you have traffic calming measures to prevent through traffic. If there are walking shortcuts through the site (and I think I see some on the aerial pic), then that isn't too bad. I don't think you'll see a grid neighbourhood built nowadays because of the desire to keep cross traffic on the arterials around the neighbourhood.

fever
03-11-2007, 12:56 AM
I don't mind curvy roads at all, and grids only mean so much. I agree it's far from the worst example of sprawl. Actually, it's very similar to some parts of the southeast corner of the City of Vancouver, which goes to show that it isn't immune to poorly planned development.

David
03-11-2007, 01:11 AM
I hope that the city centre is redesigned fairly soon to provide shorter blocks and more roads. I walked through Surrey yesterday and it is so terribly unwalkable. All the people in these new developments are still going to be driving everywhere if it takes 5 minutes just to get from one cross street to another.

SunCoaster
03-11-2007, 01:51 AM
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7638/dsc01577jm5.jpg[/QUOTE]

/\ Is Infinity the project being built on the SE corner of 102 Ave and King George Hwy? I hadn't been in central Surrey for quite a while until a few days ago and so hadn't seen this huge, massive tower going up @ the intersection noted above ... as a result I damn near rear ended the car in front of me staring at this monster ... it seems to have a lot more bulk and height than most new towers in the GVRD ...

CC420
03-11-2007, 08:39 PM
don't necessarily think that curvey roads automatically means poor planning. Even in Vancouver, you have traffic calming measures to prevent through traffic. If there are walking shortcuts through the site (and I think I see some on the aerial pic), then that isn't too bad. I don't think you'll see a grid neighbourhood built nowadays because of the desire to keep cross traffic on the arterials around the neighbourhood.

Actually, Surrey is mainly a grid network of streets. Only in a few of these large developments do you get those dreaded curved suburban streets. I say the townhouses are poorly planned because there is usually no commercial space built remotely close to these developments. So people, while being concentrated in a small area, still have to get in their car to get places.

SpongeG
03-11-2007, 09:20 PM
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7638/dsc01577jm5.jpg

/\ Is Infinity the project being built on the SE corner of 102 Ave and King George Hwy? I hadn't been in central Surrey for quite a while until a few days ago and so hadn't seen this huge, massive tower going up @ the intersection noted above ... as a result I damn near rear ended the car in front of me staring at this monster ... it seems to have a lot more bulk and height than most new towers in the GVRD ...[/QUOTE]

yes thats it

the first of the 5 (?) towers for that site :banana:

tintinium
03-11-2007, 10:26 PM
Surrey, BC


Quattro
(Four 28+ Storey Residential)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4086/img44e9e6fe5fc5adf3.jpg


Phase II Building B is being made available to people who were registered for phase I and didn't get to purchase.

Apparently they lowered the price for Building B units, they start $5,000 less than Building A... 114,400 for a studio.

It'll probably sell out within a few hours, but me wonders whether this is due to creative marketing or a market fear of being priced out of the market.

cornholio
03-11-2007, 11:31 PM
I hope that the city centre is redesigned fairly soon to provide shorter blocks and more roads. I walked through Surrey yesterday and it is so terribly unwalkable. All the people in these new developments are still going to be driving everywhere if it takes 5 minutes just to get from one cross street to another.

This is the official city center transit village plan. There are actualy 2 variations of this plan but they only differ in the location of the bus loop.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/surrey.jpg?t=1173652127

SpongeG
03-11-2007, 11:43 PM
Phase II Building B is being made available to people who were registered for phase I and didn't get to purchase.

Apparently they lowered the price for Building B units, they start $5,000 less than Building A... 114,400 for a studio.

It'll probably sell out within a few hours, but me wonders whether this is due to creative marketing or a market fear of being priced out of the market.

marketing

if you look at MLS you can find older units in the same area for the same price or cheaper

Volksboi
03-16-2007, 08:20 PM
Any news on the Urban Village?

officedweller
03-16-2007, 08:38 PM
Seems to me that those Urban Village blocks should be office towers instead (even if they have to sit underutilized for a while).

Volksboi
03-16-2007, 09:00 PM
Why would you say that? The reason i ask is because i bought in the "agenda urban village", and i am planning on buying in the the 40 story urban Village tower as well. I think the location is very ideal for condo's for the reason it being so close to so many admenities.

officedweller
03-16-2007, 09:21 PM
I was referring to the transit village map above (with the small floorplate condo towers), not a project called "Urban Village" - didn't realize that's what the reference was. Where is that project in relation to the map?

Yeah, but if Surrey City Centre is to have an office core, it should be central to the downtown. Gateway and King George should focus on residential, with the Central City area reserved for future office buildings.
i.e. the floorplates for office towers are usually much bigger than residential buildings - one office tower and you've angered lots of nimbys by blocking their views - then where do you put the office buildings IF its to be a dense commercial core?

Volksboi
03-16-2007, 11:03 PM
The Urban Village ( www.urbanvillageliving.com ) is located about 2 blocks from the Central City tower and Surrey Center Skytrain station. so on the corner of 102 and 132. Its going to be this huge development with 4-5 low rise condo's and 4-5 towers 40+ storys. Its going to mixed with retail and residentail. going to be quite the comunitie within its self. And i agree surrey does need a business sector, but i dont think The urban village will interfer with that goal, but only feed it with people willing to buy there products, or work for them.

officedweller
03-17-2007, 12:30 AM
40+? That's pretty high. A couple of blocks from the Central City should be far enough away - not to put a residential dead zone in the heart of a commercial area.

doc406
03-17-2007, 12:49 AM
Where did you hear that they are planning 4-5 40+ towers? i thought they were planning on building only 1 40 story tower.

As far as the office towers . .there just isnt a demand for office towers in surrey. Even in that transit village report, they admitted that realistically there will be 1 office tower built every 10 years so there is plenty of room for residential towers.. .but they to stop allwoing all these 4 story condos in the city centre. .what a waste of prime real estate

officedweller
03-17-2007, 02:37 AM
Yeah, the 4 storey condo is the extreme example of what not to do. They should at least preserve space for the office towers - just because once a condo goes up the land will be tied up practically forever (try getting a strata council to vote to dissolve and sell the building!)

CC420
03-17-2007, 07:32 PM
:previous: Isn't this developer just following the standard Vancouver model of point towers? I see no problem with this considering where the development is. I'd rather see less mixed use development in the city centre for the time being. Just simply because I would like to see another nice office tower in Surrey. Besides my desire for an office tower, I think seperating towers to strictly commercial and residential would help the street life in Surrey centre. As a mixed use development may confine people to the highrise complex they live and work in.

fever
03-17-2007, 08:57 PM
:previous: Isn't this developer just following the standard Vancouver model of point towers? I see no problem with this considering where the development is. I'd rather see less mixed use development in the city centre for the time being. Just simply because I would like to see another nice office tower in Surrey. Besides my desire for an office tower, I think seperating towers to strictly commercial and residential would help the street life in Surrey centre. As a mixed use development may confine people to the highrise complex they live and work in.


Does anybody know of anybody who does this? Would anybody want this?

I think Surrey will become attractive to commercial development once it becomes nice, and for that to happen it has to build up a half-decent retail street, and a good number of residents. Sure, condos shouldn't take up all the space but how many decades would it take before condos filled up Downtown Surrey, even if built at the same pace as in downtown Vancouver?

Surrey's downtown has far deeper problems to deal with now. There's no need to worry now about the consequences of it actually being successful. It can modify its plans later if a potential lack of commercial space ever becomes even a possibility. Downtown Surrey's as big as the downtown Vancouver, and it isn't constricted by geography. It likely won't ever have that particular problem.

officedweller
03-17-2007, 10:05 PM
It would have to be done by the City through zoning.
It would be nipping in the bud, the same potential problem that downtown Vancouver is facing with its commercial core and the encroachment of residential towers.
With the ownership structure of condos, it is unlikely that strata owners would vote to dissolve a strata (at least a highrise one) to sell to a developer. So if the prime commercial sites are developed with condos, it is unlikely that you could undo that in the future.
Reserving space for commercial space doesn't mean it would have to stay a strip mall or empty lot - it could still be redeveloped in the interim - i.e retail or small scale commercial that is more street friendly.

fever
03-17-2007, 10:24 PM
Surrey should fix its own problems before it tries to fix problems it doesn't have. There isn't a shortage of real problems in Whalley. There's no danger of it being swamped by condos.

In any case, I think it would be best to keep the larger floorplate office towers a little bit away from the centre of retail activity initially.

SpongeG
03-18-2007, 02:23 AM
thats where the safeway and a bunch of ugly strip mall stores currently are

will be good to see that area transformed

CC420
03-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Does anybody know of anybody who does this? Would anybody want this?

I think Surrey will become attractive to commercial development once it becomes nice, and for that to happen it has to build up a half-decent retail street, and a good number of residents. Sure, condos shouldn't take up all the space but how many decades would it take before condos filled up Downtown Surrey, even if built at the same pace as in downtown Vancouver?


Don't get me wrong here. I'm all for mixed use developmet.

My point about avoiding mixed use development for the time being was for fear of having highrise "forts" in Surrey. We all know Whalley isn't the greatest neighbourhood. Since this is a well known fact, the last thing I want to see is people living and working in the same highrise complex and completely avoiding the city streets. Whalley needs a higher influx of wealthy and medium wealth people on the streets. This influx would help push and "hide" the poorer population in Whalley. Just like Vancouver where there is still a large amount of poor people in the downtown. But with a larger working based population on the streets, it helps with the image of a vibrant "rich" city.

But yes of course, Surrey first, just needs to get some highrise development going.

officedweller
03-19-2007, 01:16 AM
True, offices create a much more vibrant daytime population than residential use - i.e. one that is able to sustain retail 5 days a week versus just weekends. Yaletown is a prime example - there's not too much pedestrian traffic when residents are off at their jobs during the week. Restaurants are the only businesses that seem to be able to make a go of it in Yaletown (at least in recent years with higher rents) - and they draw people in and operate when the esidents get back from work.

SpongeG
03-19-2007, 01:28 AM
i wonder how the new SFU residence will help - perhaps it will make cafes and such open up or stay open late - how many residents will be in the tower they are building? 200 or 500 students?

fever
03-19-2007, 02:16 AM
True, offices create a much more vibrant daytime population than residential use - i.e. one that is able to sustain retail 5 days a week versus just weekends. Yaletown is a prime example - there's not too much pedestrian traffic when residents are off at their jobs during the week. Restaurants are the only businesses that seem to be able to make a go of it in Yaletown (at least in recent years with higher rents) - and they draw people in and operate when the esidents get back from work.

The most vibrant streets are the ones that are adjacent to as many uses as possible, bringing people to them consistently over each day and week. Robson street, for example, sits on the boundary of an office district and a residential district.

There's no reason to go to Yaletown in the day. There's too little office and institutional. The situation is reversed a few blocks away by the post office, and it's even worse. Both areas would be better if they were more mixed.

officedweller
03-19-2007, 03:28 AM
The most vibrant streets are the ones that are adjacent to as many uses as possible, bringing people to them consistently over each day and week. Robson street, for example, sits on the boundary of an office district and a residential district.

Agreed. Just concerned that the area could end up like a Yaletown rather than a Robson...

98fb
03-19-2007, 04:28 AM
5 18 story towers going up in guildford. Was in the local leader paper.

fever
03-19-2007, 04:39 AM
My concern is mostly that too much unnecessary regulation would stifle initial development. And also that large floor plate office towers would deaden the street if they were located too centrally. I think that Central City is better where it is on the edge than if it had been located a little closer to the station.

Lee_Haber8
03-19-2007, 04:40 AM
The most vibrant streets are the ones that are adjacent to as many uses as possible, bringing people to them consistently over each day and week. Robson street, for example, sits on the boundary of an office district and a residential district.

There's no reason to go to Yaletown in the day. There's too little office and institutional. The situation is reversed a few blocks away by the post office, and it's even worse. Both areas would be better if they were more mixed.

I think Yaletown is going to see way more offices with the Canada Line being built. I remember hearing Vancouver city planners saying something about it on GVTV or something.

officedweller
03-19-2007, 07:38 AM
Yaletown proper has a 7 storey height restriction and there aren't really any developable parcels for office space other than near BC Place - and I think Concord already wants to build more condos there. So whatever will be built will be infill - i.e. like the office above the Yaletown Brewing Co.

WRT Surrey, if the offices get too far from the core, you probably hit single family home pretty quickly.

SpongeG
03-20-2007, 12:49 AM
there is that one odd building on 104th in surrey between guildford and surrey central

it looks like an office building or a multilevel mall but its completely empty

it sat unfinished for quite a while too - at least a year or two

there can't be much demand for office space in surrey?

officedweller
03-20-2007, 01:15 AM
I think that was supposed to be a Chinese mall of some kind but the developer ran out of money. If it's now office space, that wasn't the original plan. The Central City Tower is apparently fully leased now.

SpongeG
03-20-2007, 01:29 AM
yeah i think that was the original idea - i pass it a lot

it would make a good high school

it reminds me of one

there is another abandoned proect almost across the street - some kind of condos - they did the basement it looks like and than nothing more

its just an open hole with cement and crap

David
03-20-2007, 05:54 AM
Is this what you're talking about?
http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/surrey/2005/syh2005_340.jpg

SpongeG
03-20-2007, 06:14 AM
yes

it looks so out of place where it is

tintinium
03-20-2007, 05:16 PM
The RCMP was going to move into it... dunno what happened to that proposal

MolsonExport
03-20-2007, 05:30 PM
Nice to see the transition (much for the better) of my former working area, the former armpit of the lower mainland, Whalley.

Jared
03-20-2007, 06:18 PM
my former working area


you were a crack dealer?







:D

murman
03-20-2007, 07:03 PM
Nice to see the transition (much for the better) of my former working area, the former armpit of the lower mainland, Whalley.

What's the new armpit?

LeftCoaster
03-20-2007, 07:56 PM
^Abbotsford

hollywoodnorth
03-20-2007, 11:14 PM
The RCMP was going to move into it... dunno what happened to that proposal


nope they are building a new facilty from scratch near King George Station.

Volksboi
03-20-2007, 11:35 PM
I have a reliable source, this will be one of the largest developments on the central city area!

David
03-20-2007, 11:36 PM
Glad to see the thread stickied!

tintinium
03-20-2007, 11:46 PM
FYI, citygruv (http://www.citygruv.com/) in Surrey Central is selling to pre-registrants this Saturday.


Floor Plans & Prices :

Studio, 450 sq. ft. – from $99,900
1 Bedroom, 600 sq. ft. – from $183, 900
2 Bedroom, 2 Bathroom, 860 sq. ft. – from $240,900

Saturday, March 24th
Doors will open at 10 am sharp.

Is it just me or do those sq. ft figures look really small. I think they're aiming at the student market.

Volksboi
03-21-2007, 12:07 AM
i dont think the sqft is small at all, if they where building these 10-15 years ago, yes i would consider them very small. Apartments are getting smaller and smaller as time goes by, but on the same note they are being more efficient with the space. i bought a 450 sqft apartment in the urban village (Agenda), and im going to buy another one in there 40 story tower this spring. You would be very surprised what they can do with 450 sqft.

Jared
03-21-2007, 01:19 AM
FYI, citygruv (http://www.citygruv.com/) in Surrey Central is selling to pre-registrants this Saturday.



Is it just me or do those sq. ft figures look really small. I think they're aiming at the student market.

Like Volksboi mentioned, they tend to design things in a fairly efficient way (i.e. no wasted space on hallways etc). They're obviously meant for singles though.

vanman
03-21-2007, 03:09 AM
d'cor seems to be back on track, albeit with a new developer and a completely new design. There was an ad in the saturday sun.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/image_1024_02.gif
http://dcorize.ca

98fb
03-21-2007, 05:47 AM
Finally Surrey gets a sticky. Sweet. :notacrook:

LeftCoaster
03-21-2007, 05:48 AM
I like this Surrey thread, but perhaps it could be renamed a Vancouver suburb thread, as there might not be enough chatter concerning Surrey alone, and the other communities around Vancouver would be well served to have their own thread.

tintinium
03-21-2007, 07:26 AM
^No way... give Surrey the respect it deserves... hehehe...

MolsonExport
03-21-2007, 02:39 PM
you were a crack dealer?







:D


Actually, in my former career, I used to run the local Toys 'R Us on East Whalley Ring Road (mid 90s).

Volksboi
03-21-2007, 10:09 PM
where does everyone find the pictures of the proposed tower that are going up in surrey? be cool to see what they all look like....

LeftCoaster
03-21-2007, 10:15 PM
Yea if someone who knew the area, and the associated projects, could make one, it would be cool to see a list compiled akin to that which hed kandi made for Vancouver proper... I know its alot of work, but hopefuly someone is up to the task, then a mod could move it to the front of this thread.

SpongeG
03-21-2007, 10:16 PM
surrey can be like what bellevue is to seattle...

androo3
03-22-2007, 07:04 AM
Hopefully not like Tacoma

cornholio
03-22-2007, 09:58 AM
I agree with turning the surrey thread in to a vancouver suburb thread. There just isnt enough going on to keep this thread lively and although there have been suprisingly alot of posts lately it will die down. If it included all the suburbs then the thread could be as lively as the vancouver one which is prety good with a average of about a new page per day.

David
03-22-2007, 06:17 PM
I agree. There's so much going on in all of the other suburbs but not quite enough in Surrey to warrant its own thread. I'd argue that Coquitlam has more actually under construction than Surrey does right now.

tintinium
03-22-2007, 09:17 PM
With surrey, though, I think it's because the development is pretty much concentrated on two areas. Guildford and Whalley. Whalley has one of the biggest visions and biggest hopes, methinks...

Volksboi
03-23-2007, 12:12 AM
I disagree, i think surrey desearves its own thread and disagree that there is not enough going on in surrey to justify its own thread. In my opinion there is more developments going on in surreys one area then any other area in the lower mainland. Im not saying all of surrey, but just in the whalley area. With major projects like The Urban Village ( 8 buildings, lowrise and towers) Quattro ( 8 buildings, Lowrise and towers) and Infinti ( 5 - 7 towers), and thats just to name a few of the developments in that one area. If you would like to discuss other areas as well, maybe start your own thread outlined to serve the area of your choice.
Cheers!

cornholio
03-23-2007, 01:30 AM
Or at the least the surrey threrad could become a south of the fraser thread...white rock, delta, langley, surrey and maybe abotsford + chilliwack. Another thread could include the rest of the north shore, richmond, burnaby, new west, tri cities and maple ridge and pitt meadows.

smasher000
03-23-2007, 02:07 AM
Um whoa. How did Surrey get it's own thread? I think it should be a Vancouver Suburbs Construction Thread. Perhaps a mod could fix it?

smasher000
03-23-2007, 02:57 AM
This is the Greater Vancouver Suburb Construction Thread.

Dictionary.com definition of Suburb:
A district lying immediately outside a city or town, esp. a smaller residential community.

Vancouver's Suburbs Are:
Anmore
Belcarra
Bowen Island
Burnaby
Coquitlam
Delta
Langley
Maple Ridge
New Westminster
North Vancouver
Pitt Meadows
Port Coquitlam
Port Moody
Richmond
Surrey
Vancouver
West Vancouver
White Rock


:jester:

David
03-23-2007, 06:16 AM
Well, I'll get the thread rolling by posting these pictures I took of the developments in Coquitlam Town Centre on Tuesday.


Obelisk

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Obelisk.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6055.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6056.jpg
(It is supposed to have a large retail store at the base, but I haven't heard if it has been leased yet)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6057.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6059.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6060.jpg
(ripe for development :P)



Westwood Village

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/WestwoodVillage.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6064.jpg
(this is Altamonte)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6063.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6066.jpg
(this view shows the new senior's centre at the base of Altamonte. The view is looking towards City Hall: this is going to be a "pedestrian spine" which will eventually connect from Douglas College in the north, down past the Aquatic Centre, City Hall, through Westwood Village, down High St to Coquitlam Centre)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6062.jpg
(Edgemont)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Edgemont.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6058.jpg
(looking up Pinetree Way towards City Hall)



Levo

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Levo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6052.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6054.jpg
(foreground is the site of Levo; background is Altamonte)



The Regency
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/Regency.jpg
(a "resort retirement" building)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6068.jpg



Grand Central

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1874/glendrivenn3.jpg
(thanks phesto for this rendering)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6049.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6067.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6050.jpg



and just for kicks, this is the future home of the first H&M in BC at Coquitlam Centre

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6051.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6046.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6044.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6045.jpg

Jared
03-23-2007, 06:31 AM
Um whoa. How did Surrey get it's own thread? I think it should be a Vancouver Suburbs Construction Thread. Perhaps a mod could fix it?

it was started before the "suburbs" thread.

cornholio
03-23-2007, 07:10 AM
under construction in New Westminster

Azure Plaza 88 - 2 towers under construction, eventualy will include 5 towers in total
height: 25-30 stories
units: 2 towers - 404 residetial + 5000sq.ft commercial
developer: Degelder Projects
complete: 2008
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/477114.jpg

Victoria Hill - 2 highrises
height: ?(around 20 stories?)
units: 185 + 3681sq.ft of comercial space
complete: 2007
developer: Onni
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/337466.jpg

Quantum
height: 19 stories
units: 90 residential + 30 live work + 2 retail
developer: Bosa
complete: 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/quantum.jpg

News - 3 highrises
height: 15+15+16 storeis
units: 347
developer: Rykon group
complete: 2 towers 2006, 1 tower 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/news.jpg

The Point
height: 24 stories
units: 131 residential + 18 live work + 12 retail
developer: Onni
complete: 2007
http://onni.com/content/img/point/thepoint2_small.jpg

Century Point
height: 10 stories
units: 40 residential + 2628sq.ft commercial
developer: Century Point Residences ltd.
complete: 2007
No rendering

The Anvil
height: 9 stories
units: 100 residentail + 44650sq.ft office space
developer: United Properties
complete: 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/anvil.jpg

San Marino
height: 8 stories
units: 102 residential + 4236sq.ft retail
developerCP Developments Saperton
complete: 2007
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/sanmarino.jpg

The Q
height: 19 stories
units: 140
developer: Aragon
complete: (2007-2008)?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/q.jpg

Aproved and Costruction Permit Issued

Larco Towers - 5 towers along the waterfront between 6th st and 8th st
height: 5 towers 25-30 stories
units: 911
developer: Larco Investment ltd
completion: ?
no rendering
*This development was aproved in the early 90's but nothing ever hapend until 2005 when Larco submited some changes by reducing the unit count from just over a 1000 to 911 and increasing the size of the promenade along the Fraser. It looked like construction might start soon but its now been almost 2 years and nothing. This is a very significant project by the way that would completly change downtown New Westminster and finaly conect it to the river.

Zoning planing issue resolved council cosideration underway

Port Royal
height: 22 stories
units: 142
developer: Aragon
complete: ?
http://web.bcnewsgroup.com/portals/uploads/burnaby/.DIR288/BE0914_Tower_1C_060914.jpg

The Beacons - 3 highrises - former saint Mary's hospital site/originaly 2 highrises proposed
height: 3x ?(20-25 stories?)
units: 552
developer: Embassy Development Corp
completion: ?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/beacons.jpg

Development application recieved at staff level - zoning/planing issues not yet resolved

Victoria Hill parcel K
height: 27 stories
units: 195
developer: Onni
complete: ?
no rendering

Dickenson st
height: 20 stories
units: 133
developer: ?
complete ?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/dickenson.jpg

Prelimenery review by design panel

Azure Plaza 88 1 tower
height: (25-35 stories?)
units: 240
developer: Degelder projects
complete: 2009
rendering at begining of post under Azure Plaza 88

OCP land use review by staff

Azure Plaza 88 1 tower
height: (25-35 stories?)
units: 160 residential + 180000sq.ft commercial + 35000sq.ft civic
developer: Degelder projects
complete: ?
no rendering

*This info is from fall 2006 and i havent updated it so there could be some changes
***Also there is a new proposed tower on Columbia street that will be around 16 stories high and will be built at the curent site of (?name) pub between 6th street and 8th street.
******I beleive i heared there are more towers that have been proposed but i dont have any info at the moment.

renthefinn
03-23-2007, 07:28 AM
^^Wow such a barren area to start a villiage in. Glad to see them densifying, but couldn't it have been in a more utilized area? I'd hate to live in one of those towers with nothing much around. Maybe I don't know enough about the area can you fill me in on the surroundings?

Cheers.

raggedy13
03-23-2007, 08:05 AM
White Rock:

U/C

Belaire
height: 12 storeys
units: ?
complete: 2007
developer: Marcon
http://www.viewwhiterock.com/home.php

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/472084.jpg

Construction pics from Nov '06
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/nov2006_04.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/nov2006_05.jpg


Miramar Village - 4 towers (demolition started for Phase 1)
height: 21+17+17+14
units: Phase 1 (21+17 storey tower) - 225 units
complete: Phase 1 - 2009, Phase 2 - 2011
developer: Bosa
http://www.miramarvillage.ca/images/main.swf

Phase 1:
http://www.waynekim.com/bbs/data/wboard/miramar1.jpg

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/idl/vasn/20060729/26775-9409.jpg


White Rock Town Centre Redevelopment
Complete: 2011
Developer: Bosa

Includes:
-Miramar Village residential towers
-A new 12,500 square foot White Rock Visual Arts Centre
-Two outdoor amphitheatre areas
-Bryant Park rejuvenation
-Large public plaza
-72,000 sq ft of street front retail including grocery and liquor store
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/vision-01.html

http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-homes.jpg
^Tallest tower now 21 storeys according to Emporis and article from the Vancouver Sun
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-community.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-financial_benefits.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-convenience.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-accessibility.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-quick_facts.jpg
http://www.bosaproperties.com/bosa-whiterock/images/pic-faq.jpg

Volksboi
03-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Anyone have any new information on Holland Park?

tintinium
03-23-2007, 06:49 PM
I say start a suburbs thread in addition and see which one dies first... How will the collective of all the other Suburbs fare against "Surrey"

Volksboi
03-23-2007, 07:07 PM
i dont really care which one dies off first, as long as there is post about the updates in surrey, thats all i really care about. Its nice to have a space where i can come to from time to time and see if anyone has posted any updates.. I am interested in whats happening outside of surrey, and will obviously visit that thread too.

smasher000
03-23-2007, 07:51 PM
i started the suburb one. we'll see which way the ball bounces

LeftCoaster
03-23-2007, 08:54 PM
amazing! This is such a great thread, as these projects have such an impact on how Vancouver functions as a metro, but rarely get much mention in this forum... someone sticky this so we can keep it going!

Volksboi
03-23-2007, 10:21 PM
i dont see this as a contest, just a great way to share information.. personally i dont care which one gets more "hits"
Cheers

Volksboi
03-23-2007, 10:25 PM
Wow that White Rock development is unreal!

SFUVancouver
03-24-2007, 01:10 AM
Boomer seniors have cash and like established brands like White Rock.

bils
03-24-2007, 03:21 AM
Alright boys.
Richmond.
You ready?

Here it goes:

Versante Living (2 towers) – construction underway

http://www.johnchow.com/wp-content/images/versanteliving.jpg

Acqua (2 conjoined towers) – almost complete

http://www.scottlesliecarpenter.com/images/Acqua.jpg

Garden City (2 towers) – tower 1 almost topped off

http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb89/highres/3/v623323_1.jpg

Lotus (3 towers) – towers 1 & 2 almost topped off

http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb89/highres/0/v632550_1.jpg

Mandalay (2 six-storey buildings) – construction underway

http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb89/highres/9/v635319_1.jpg

Emporio (1 tower) – almost topped off

http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb89/highres/4/v6089441.jpg

Paloma (2 towers) – tower 1 almost complete, tower 2 in pre-sales)

http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb89/highres/9/v630609_1.jpg

Opal (1 tower) – construction underway

http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb89/highres/5/v6142751.jpg

Flo (3 towers) – construction underway

http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb89/highres/1/v622951_1.jpg

Centro (1 tower) – sales began 1 month ago, foundation work underway

http://media.buysell.com/userphotos/200715155559/512007_155859.jpg

Fullerton (1 tower) – construction underway

http://www.concordpacific.com/fullerton/

Ocean Walk (3 towers) – towers 1 & 2 topped off, tower 3 almost there)

http://www.oceanwalkcondos.ca/

Wall Centre (2 towers) – pre-loading

http://www.wallcentrerichmond.com/

Aberdeen Centre Condos (1 tower) – almost complete, sorry I dunno the official name

Concord Pacific Richmond Gateway (1000 units) – pre-registration

http://www.concordpacific.com/gateway/index.html

http://www.concordpacific.com/gateway/images/gateway.gif

I'll update with actual photos as soon as this weather clears up. There's more development that I haven't included but will post as soon as I get some details on them.

SpongeG
03-24-2007, 09:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/dbwn87/103_6051.jpg

I can't wait to see how H&M utilizes the cube

SpongeG
03-24-2007, 09:21 PM
phase 2 of that thing in whalley sold out in 1 hour!

saw it on the noon news today

CC420
03-25-2007, 12:08 AM
:previous: Good to hear. :banana: :banana: :banana:

surrey can be like what bellevue is to seattle...
Hopefully not like Tacoma

I really hope all of these projects work out for Surrey. If the grand vision falls seriously short again, then I think Surrey is destined to become that "Tacoma". I guess it really depends on the develepors since they pretty much own Surrey. So of course market demand will play a huge roll in highrise development in Surrey. That being, Surrey avoiding a market collapse like that of the mid 90's in 5-10 years time. Personally I feel there will be no collapse in the near future but rather a healthy downtrend 3-4 years after the olympics. This would obviously be benificial for Surrey to become more like Bellevue instead of Tacoma. :yuck:

Um whoa. How did Surrey get it's own thread? I think it should be a Vancouver Suburbs Construction Thread. Perhaps a mod could fix it?

Ummm, Surrey is the second largest city in BC. It is to everyones benefit that Surrey develop highrises the way it outta.

n a m
03-25-2007, 04:23 PM
Thousands take a gamble on Whalley


By Kevin Diakiw Staff Reporter
Mar 25 2007

More than 7,000 people signed up for a chance to purchase one of 116 suites in Whalley, which went on sale yesterday. But they’ve got a better chance of matching numbers on a Lotto 6/49.

Interest in the second phase of Quattro was so high, organizers drew names of purchasers from a lottery.

Former Canucks goalie Kirk McLean was to draw the names.

The frenzy comes a month after 6,500 people signed up for one of 140 condominiums in the first phase, which sold out in four hours.

Quattro, to be built at 108 Avenue and East Whalley Ring Road, is being touted as the next Yaletown.

The condos that went on sale yesterday started at $114,400.

The first phases are four four-storey apartments with a total of 470 condominiums and ground floor commercial development. There will also be four highrises to the west.

In total, 1,100 dwellings worth $600 million will be built. Construction of the first two buildings is expected to begin this June, with completion anticipated in the fall of 2008.

What are the odds?

- Matching three numbers in Lotto

Super 7: 1 in 22

- $5 win on a Scratch and Win Ticket: 1 n 31

- Number coming up at Roulette:

1 in 38

- Matching three numbers in a Lotto 6/49: 1 in 57

- A chance to buy a home at Quattro:

1 in 61

PitBoss
03-25-2007, 05:46 PM
Interesting to see that the buying frenzy remains strong in the Central City area. I have recently closed and resold a pre-construction purchase townhome in Heritage Woods, Port Moody and made over $100,000, a concrete low-rise apartment on the Broadway corrider and made over $80,000. However, my strongest equity growth yet has been in the purchases I made in Agenda at Central City. This area is a natural for explosive equity growth.

tintinium
03-26-2007, 04:52 PM
I'm glad I didn't go. I had an appointment for 10:30... but we decided against it. I'm sure there's potential as a long-term investment, but as a home to live in... my rent's less than 50% mortgage + strata cost. I'm sure you'll see the area appreciate greatly in 5 years... however, by then I'm sure the market will have cooled or flattened, making little difference between buying now or later.

SpongeG
03-27-2007, 01:25 AM
i guess for new construction its cheap but there are a number of condos neaby that are cheaper than these "lowest" price better buy in now or you are priced out of the market mumbo jumbo they are spinning

mr.x2
03-27-2007, 01:34 AM
Richmond to sell and lease land next to skating oval

Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, March 26, 2007

The City of Richmond will sell and lease land adjacent to the Olympic speed skating oval to Aspac Developments Ltd. for $141 million, Mayor Malcolm Brodie announced Monday.

Brodie, at a news conference, said the agreement to sell and lease 18.6 acres of property to Aspac far exceeds the city's expectations for what it would realize from the sale, which will be used to help finance construction of the $178-million Olympic venue.

He added that the sale will allow the city to live up to its promise to build the speed skating oval without raising taxes or borrowing money.

The city's budget for the project called for a $43-million contribution from the sale of lands. Brodie said that portion of the proceeds will be put into the oval's, the remainder will be set aside in city reserve funds.

Aspac, developers of the Coal Harbour community on Vancouver's downtown waterfront, said the mixed-use development will include up to 2,000 residential units in as many as 14 mid-rise apartment towers.

The property is on the south bank of the Fraser River to the east of the No. 2 Road bridge, and represents the last of Brighouse Estates, a 548-acre farm property the city bought for $1.45 million in 1962.

dpenner@png.canwest.com


© Vancouver Sun 2007

excel
03-27-2007, 02:35 AM
^wow big development.

bils
03-27-2007, 02:55 AM
^^^ Am I interpreting that correctly? The city expected to raise $43M but instead got $141M?????

:banana:

mr.x2
03-27-2007, 03:06 AM
^^^ Am I interpreting that correctly? The city expected to raise $43M but instead got $141M?????

:banana:

Yes, which more than covers Richmond's contribution to the Olympic Oval.


Cost of oval: $178 million
- Richmond: $118 million
- VANOC: $60 million

Richmond contribution: $118 million
Richmond profit: $141 million

bils
03-27-2007, 04:23 AM
A more lengthy article from richmond.ca

link: http://www.richmond.ca/news/city/sale_oval_lands.htm
--------------------------------------------------
Richmond Announces Sale of Oval Riverfront Lands

26 March 2007

The City of Richmond announced today that it has reached an agreement to sell and lease the 18.6-acre Oval Riverfront Lands to ASPAC Developments Ltd. for a total of $141 million.

The Oval Riverfront lands will become the site of a world class urban waterfront development surrounding the Richmond Oval, home of long track speed skating for the 2010 Olympic Winter Games.

The Oval development will include 12 to 14 mid-rise residential towers. It will be the largest master planned neighbourhood in Richmond and will include commercial residential, recreational and open park space along the banks of the Fraser River’s Middle Arm.

“This is a momentous day for the City of Richmond,” said Mayor Malcolm Brodie. “This agreement will provide untold benefits for countless generations of Richmond residents as it will allow us to reinvest in our community’s future. We look forward to working with ASPAC to create a highly livable new neighbourhood. It will be a showcase for outstanding and sustainable design and become a destination of choice for visitors from around the world.”

Established in 1993, ASPAC is best known as the developer of Coal Harbour, transforming a former industrial site into an internationally-recognized waterfront neighbourhood popular with both residents and visitors.

“Working with Richmond, we will create a world class legacy that is worthy of this unique riverfront site,” said Raymond Li, Senior Vice President of ASPAC. “The Oval Riverfront Lands will be a high-quality, sustainable, residential neighbourhood, with diverse commercial amenities, extensive open space, and enhanced public access to the area’s most prominent assets, the Fraser River and the recreational facilities created by the Richmond Oval.”

The City required $43 million from the Oval lands agreement proceeds to support the completion of the Richmond Oval project. This agreement exceeds that requirement and fulfils Council’s commitment that no borrowing or property tax increase would be used to fund the construction of the Oval.

Council is considering options for the investment of the remaining proceeds from the agreement. It is considering a proposal that the bulk of the funds be invested in a series of Community Legacy Funds, which will preserve the principal and use investment proceeds to fund a variety of initiatives.

“The Oval Riverfront Lands are the last remaining portion of the Brighouse Estates, which was purchased by the City more than 40 years ago,” noted Mayor Brodie. “That wise investment provided for many of the civic amenities we enjoy today and helped guide the development of our City Centre. The legacy of the Brighouse Estates gave us the opportunity we have today and we need to make a new investment in our community that will also pay dividends for future generations.”

ASPAC will purchase five of seven parcels contained within the 18.6 acres and sign a 60-year lease on the remaining two parcels. Four of the parcels at the west end of the site are designated for high density residential, while the remaining three, adjoining the Richmond Oval, are designated for commercial or mixed use development.

ASPAC was selected through a Request For Proposal process initiated in the spring of 2006. In addition to its financial commitment, ASPAC’s proposal met or exceeded the RFP requirements by:

* Ensuring no net loss of public open space and extending the waterfront through “green fingers” from the dyke to the new River Road
* Increasing the publicly accessible open space within the privately-owned development area
* Improving and maximizing river views within and through the site
* Creating additional pedestrian friendly commercial activities along the entire west side of the Oval Lands
* Committing to achieve LEED Silver standard for environmentally sustainable building design

ASPAC will begin work immediately on detailed site planning. ASPAC’s design team will be led by acclaimed architect James Cheng. An initial parcel at the northeast corner is expected to be developed by 2009. While marketing and some construction is expected to be launched over the next two years, most site development will occur after 2010.

The City has retained a half acre site adjoining the Oval Riverfront Lands, which has been designated for a future affordable housing development.

------------------
sounds exciting. anyone have any info as to whether all those big box warehouses in that area are going anywhere, anytime soon? they're an eyesore!

mr.x2
03-27-2007, 04:34 AM
awesome!!!!

Canadian Mind
03-27-2007, 04:51 AM
what are relative hight limits in the suburbs, if there are any?

mr.x2
03-27-2007, 04:54 AM
what are relative hight limits in the suburbs, if there are any?

None really, except in Richmond for obvious reasons.

fever
03-27-2007, 04:56 AM
ok so i guess i'll do north van... i know there are others out there, like the Fern Street proposal.

There are a lot on Chesterfield at the moment... they all seem to advertize a few units

http://www.envynorthvan.com/ u/c 7 storeys, 2nd floor, near 3rd and Chesterfield, going for LEED according to website

http://www.ventanaliving.ca/ u/c about 13 storeys, 2nd floor, 2nd and Chesterfield

mira u/c 15 storeys?, 9th floor, Keith (7th) and Chesterfield

http://alinaliving.com/ 5 storeys, site cleared, 13th and Chesterfield

http://www.vistaplaceliving.ca/ 17 storeys and 19 storeys, site cleared, 13th and Chesterfield

http://thepier.info/ Esplanade between Lonsdale and St. Georges
The Premiere 23 storeys?, occupied?
The Esplanade u/c 22 storeys? 10th floor
Esplanade West u/c 12 storeys, topped out
Office/Mixed Component 5 storeys, 2nd floor
Pier Hotel 11 storeys, site cleared (a few years ago)
Maritime Museum, site cleared, waiting for funding from Feds? (same)
There are at least a couple other residential buildings proposed on the site in the 8 to 12 storey range

As of the other day...
http://members.shaw.ca/mikef0001/nv3.jpg

fever
03-27-2007, 05:08 AM
Most cities in Greater Vancouver have height limits of some sort. I used to have a list. I can't find it but it would be outdated by now anyway.


North Van City didn't have height limits until The Observatory was built in the late 80s or early 90s. They had density regulations that had accomplished the same thing until then, but a density transfer allowed the building to go taller than others around it.

vanman
03-27-2007, 06:18 AM
Burnaby is seeing a shiteload of construction :
I'll get out soon and get construction pics

Metrotown

Centerpoint
(under construction)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/1632centrepoint.jpg

Central Park tower(?) phase 2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/staples_frmpix-1.gif


Edmonds


Esprit
(excavation underway)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/esprit_image-1.jpg

West@Higate Village
(under construction, roughly 8 floors above ground)

Park 360
(under construction)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/dsc008052-1.jpg


Brentwood (?)

SunCoaster
03-27-2007, 06:20 AM
Given that Langley City/Langley Township make up one of the larger 'burbs' in the GVRD I'm wondering why there isn't even one measily highrise in the whole place. I was thinking it's because they have lots of 'horizontal space' and thus, don't need to go vertical ... but, then why do other burbs with lots of room to expand (eg. Mapleridge, Abbotsford etc) have high rises? ... Any thoughts from fellow Lower Mainland forumers?

SpongeG
03-27-2007, 08:32 AM
Brentwood (?)


Brentwood Gate

1 tower and 6 smaller buildings for a 7 building community

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/spongeg/brentwood.jpg

Watercolours 26 storeys - next to Collage - smaller low rises

http://www.polyhomes.com/images/communities/watercolours_home_callout_thumb_horz.jpg

Legacy towers - at holdom station

http://www.buysell.com/userphotos/profile/3112005_102433b.jpg

there is something going just north of watercolours which is across the street from brentwood gate - basically the corner of lougheed and beta - just east of brentwood town centre is filling up with lots of projects

and than there is the lougheed mall area

Sillouhette - can't find any pics

but demolition of what was on the site is going on now

Silhouette is Ledingham McAllister’s newest community in the Lougheed Town Centre neighbourhood of Burnaby, blending the ultimate in convenience and luxury over two residential towers.

and on the coquitlam side is the tower next to the hotel which is getting ready for completion this summer or fall - exterior painting going on now

also Cora - two towers rising quickly

http://www.coratowers.com/_templates/2/source/rendering.jpg

pic taken last month - a bit higher now

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/spongeg/DSC01681.jpg

the best western hotel just next to cora plans on building a high rise hotel and residential towers for i think a total of 3 towers and some lower rise buildings

and than there is something just south of lougheed mall - a huge amount of apartment condos - whopse name i forget but uits almost done and has replaced some older 70's townhouses apartments etc

massive paroject compared to what was there before

SpongeG
03-27-2007, 08:34 AM
Given that Langley City/Langley Township make up one of the larger 'burbs' in the GVRD I'm wondering why there isn't even one measily highrise in the whole place. I was thinking it's because they have lots of 'horizontal space' and thus, don't need to go vertical ... but, then why do other burbs with lots of room to expand (eg. Mapleridge, Abbotsford etc) have high rises? ... Any thoughts from fellow Lower Mainland forumers?

maybe there is no demand yet? there is a lot of room for townhouses etc right now - so people seem to prefer that style of living

cornholio
03-27-2007, 11:54 AM
More for Brentwood town center in Burnaby...

Office building on Halifax st and Wilingdon I beleive, last I heared it was put on hold.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/halifaxstoffice.jpg?t=1174992437

A third tower in the Oma development on Dawson st. I drove by there the other day and looks like the site is cleared and construction is starting.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/oma2.jpg?t=1174992540

Residential tower and a shorter office tower on Lougheed highway and (Rosser?). I beleive the site has been cleared and construction has started.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/alesmarv/appiabrentwood.jpg?t=1174992635

In the fall I beleive there were some more towers proposed around Brentwood town center but I cant remeber any info right now. Though if anyone has the time there is a major projects inventory list on the Burnaby city page.

SFUVancouver
03-27-2007, 05:45 PM
Richmond sure did okay in the end with the sale of land adjacent the Olympic Oval. $141 million dollars for the 8.3 (?) hectares, 2.3M sq.ft of development by the same people who did Coal Harbour.

I was expecting the citizens of Richmond to run Malcom Brodie out of town on a rail if the cost of the $178M oval didn't get offset somehow. Looks like he just pulled one huge rabbit out of a hat.

bils
03-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Richmond sure did okay in the end with the sale of land adjacent the Olympic Oval. $141 million dollars for the 8.3 (?) hectares, 2.3M sq.ft of development by the same people who did Coal Harbour.

I was expecting the citizens of Richmond to run Malcom Brodie out of town on a rail if the cost of the $178M oval didn't get offset somehow. Looks like he just pulled one huge rabbit out of a hat.

i'll be keeping a close eye on the local papers to see what the doubters and haters have to say about this latest news.

for comparison sake, how much did millennium pay for the SEFC site? and how does the size of that site compare with this one?

Dylan Leblanc
03-27-2007, 09:35 PM
fantastic updates!

androo3
03-28-2007, 04:15 AM
maybe there is no demand yet? there is a lot of room for townhouses etc right now - so people seem to prefer that style of living

I am a former Langley boy and this fact has always driven me nuts. Langley actually has a restriction on high of about four floors other than the new municipal hall and that old building behing langley mall. It is supposedly because of langley airport.:yuck: There has been proposals for a few 18 storey towers by the 200th/freway interchange but there was a lot of concern from nimby's. I hope this one goes through because langley is the worst example of eco density I have ever seen. No way you can have a nice walk around their main shopping area. There is no reason to limit high in walnut grove... just to far from air port...not that that should really be a reason in the first place the landing strip goes north south nowhere near the downtown:koko:

SpongeG
03-28-2007, 04:24 AM
ah

would be good to have something high in that area

tintinium
03-28-2007, 03:29 PM
Makes me wonder how they're going to market the towers. The project reeks of greed, if you ask me.

officedweller
03-29-2007, 12:13 AM
From the Burnaby Now - strange that the City is paying for it rather than the developer...

Pedestrian overpass OK'd

The Kingsway pedestrian bridge is one step closer to fruition.

Council approved $3.392 million for the construction of the pedestrian bridge across Kingsway that will connect the Sears property at Metrotown with the Intercorp development on the north side of Kingsway.

The proposed pedestrian bridge will span approximately 145 feet across the busy thoroughfare. Council had received four tenders for the construction of the pedestrian bridge and chose the lowest tender, which came in at just under $4 million, inclusive of the six per cent GST.

alau@royalcityrecord.com

published on 03/28/2007

PitBoss
03-29-2007, 12:58 AM
I'm glad I didn't go. I had an appointment for 10:30... but we decided against it. I'm sure there's potential as a long-term investment, but as a home to live in... my rent's less than 50% mortgage + strata cost. I'm sure you'll see the area appreciate greatly in 5 years... however, by then I'm sure the market will have cooled or flattened, making little difference between buying now or later.

I don't see the Central City marketplace "cooling", the city centre has just commenced its build-out which will take over two decades. Many other reasons: a) interest rates over the next 3 - 5 years are expected to remain stable or decline b) Central City is virgin territory and exceptionally well serviced by transit. c) There is no price comparison between downtown Vancouver and Central City, almost anyone can afford the Surrey location. d) SFU is increasing its campus by thousands of students (they alone provide a huge occupancy base).

I disagree on the "buying now or later" scenario, construction costs alone dictate that prices have to escalate. How many time have we all heard the old saying "I wish I had bought property back in ___ when you could buy ___ square feet for only ____"

As for the buying "experience", every developer is different. When I purchased in Agenda at Central City, the experience was a good one and the process was quite relaxed.

Good luck with your real estate investments :cheers:

Bert
03-29-2007, 01:42 AM
The City has been building up that overpass fund slowly for a long time now.

Maybe the adjacent overpass over McMurray that connects the two Centrepoint sites will be paid for by the developer though.

Lee_Haber8
03-29-2007, 04:14 AM
From the Burnaby Now - strange that the City is paying for it rather than the developer...

Pedestrian overpass OK'd

The Kingsway pedestrian bridge is one step closer to fruition.

Council approved $3.392 million for the construction of the pedestrian bridge across Kingsway that will connect the Sears property at Metrotown with the Intercorp development on the north side of Kingsway.

The proposed pedestrian bridge will span approximately 145 feet across the busy thoroughfare. Council had received four tenders for the construction of the pedestrian bridge and chose the lowest tender, which came in at just under $4 million, inclusive of the six per cent GST.

alau@royalcityrecord.com

published on 03/28/2007

Why don't they just make Kingsway narrower and slower so it is more friendly to cross? Corner bulges anyone?

vanman
03-29-2007, 09:36 AM
A small update of Burnaby:

Central Park tower:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00838.jpg

Park 360:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/dsc008262.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/dsc008272.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00828.jpg

Volksboi
03-29-2007, 05:28 PM
I have to agree with the above post, I too bought in the Urban Village (Agenda) and having nothing but great things about my buying experience. I found the staff very helpful and informative and just as excited about the project as I was. And on the same note, I also agree that all too often I hear people say, man I wish I bought in Yale town or Whistler before the prices escaladed to where they are now. The advantage of buying now vs. later is we all get the chance to take advantage of lower prices for "DT" living and watch this amazing transformation of a struggling city core, to a vibrant and safe desirable community, as like yaletown. I know my plan is to keep my urban village units for long term investments, and I know what I paid for them when I originally purchased them, will be a fraction of what they will be worth when I decide to sell them as I have already made a tremdous amount in the short time I have owned them. Something everyone needs to do is be able to grasp the vision the city and all the participating developers have planned for the area as the new dt core, I know I do and I am nothing but excited!

officedweller
03-29-2007, 08:31 PM
Nice, thanks!

Why don't they just make Kingsway narrower and slower so it is more friendly to cross? Corner bulges anyone?

It is a major thoroughfare - akin to downtown's Burrard or Georgia Streets. It's really a question of whether Burnaby wants to redistribute traffic to Central Boulevard and that other parallel street to the north - and since those go through primarily residnetial areas, I would think not.
The Kingsway corridor will "close-in" eventuallywhen the Metropolis parking lots are built on (hopefully office towers).

Dylan Leblanc
03-29-2007, 10:41 PM
Take that Queetz!! Another vertically phased building in Vancouver starts construction on it's second phase. Ha!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00838.jpg

vanman
03-29-2007, 11:01 PM
I still think verically phasing a building is stupid, I mean it probably is more expensive in the long run because you have to convert a working building back into a construction site, with all the hassles and precautions that go along with that. What's so bad about hvaing a building sitting somewhat empty for a year or 2 if it all gets leased out in the end

fever
03-30-2007, 03:50 AM
Why don't they just make Kingsway narrower and slower so it is more friendly to cross? Corner bulges anyone?

That's a good question. It would probably be more worthwhile to spend a fraction of it on streetscape improvements and pocket the rest. I don't see why two of the six lanes couldn't be parking, with corner bulges to make crossing seem safer. It's not a pleasant street for walking on as it is. I've never seen Kingsway too busy there...

Bert
03-30-2007, 05:48 AM
I'd say Metropolis is bar none the most efficient mall in the Lower Mainland at handling huge volumes of cars (and, in addition, its transit mode share is probably the best in the area). Street parking or corner bulges there would slow everything down badly, and cause the whole area to turn into a massive traffic jam, which would just make it even less pleasant to walk. I think this a really logical place for a pedestrian overpass.

officedweller
03-30-2007, 08:05 AM
The road network under Metropolis (Eaton Centre) is incredibly well laid out with wide turning radii, unlike the former Metrotown Centre part (which was a retrofit) or any of the new condo/retail buildings (Madison Centre @ Brentwood or International Village).

cornholio
03-30-2007, 08:34 AM
I still think verically phasing a building is stupid, I mean it probably is more expensive in the long run because you have to convert a working building back into a construction site, with all the hassles and precautions that go along with that. What's so bad about hvaing a building sitting somewhat empty for a year or 2 if it all gets leased out in the end

You have to also factor in the millions of dollars that are availabel to the developer for a number of years to put towards something else or invest. Though im sure there are phased projects that might have been beter of built all at once but again developers are not prophets and like everything else there are risks which are calculated and they invest and use their limited $'s in such a way that they maximize their profits though sure some decisions later on might seem like a bad idea but at the time they were made they seemed like the best idea.

cornholio
03-30-2007, 08:45 AM
Regarding Kingsway I always though it would be interesting to put in a streecar line from downtown to metrotown and on to edmonds and then along edmonds street and down 6th st to new west station. Unlikely and posibly impracticle but if they took out 2 lanes and made kingsway a 1 lane in each direcion street with parking on the side and left turn bays at all streets that you can turn left on to you would be left with minimal impact on traffic flow as the center lanes are often blocked by cars turning left which reduces the capacity to a one lane road anyways and on top of it causes more acidets. Also the two lanes taken out can be used for a row for the street car system and posibly other buses with just enough room to have two small medians to acomodate the left turn bays. But yes the capacity would be reduced at some of the major intersections that do have left turn bays and in the event of a accident. The area designated for parking could have right turning bays and corner bulges on the other sides of the intersection and kingsway would become a good pedestrian street and even more development would be spured along it. Edmonds and 6th streets though would be a chalenge as they are much narower.

Lee_Haber8
03-30-2007, 09:13 AM
I'd say Metropolis is bar none the most efficient mall in the Lower Mainland at handling huge volumes of cars (and, in addition, its transit mode share is probably the best in the area). Street parking or corner bulges there would slow everything down badly, and cause the whole area to turn into a massive traffic jam, which would just make it even less pleasant to walk. I think this a really logical place for a pedestrian overpass.

Actually the slower car traffic goes the friendlier it is for pedestrians. Having cars stop frequently and go at a steady 40 km/h is good for both pedestrians and cyclists.

Cornholio, I also think a streetcar would be a great addition to Kingsway and the whole Metrotown area. It could really help the area become more pedestrian-friendly and vibrant

androo3
03-30-2007, 05:30 PM
Actually the slower car traffic goes the friendlier it is for pedestrians. Having cars stop frequently and go at a steady 40 km/h is good for both pedestrians and cyclists.

Cornholio, I also think a streetcar would be a great addition to Kingsway and the whole Metrotown area. It could really help the area become more pedestrian-friendly and vibrant

Ya stop and go traffic is a great idea and great for the environment:koko:

Canadian Mind
03-31-2007, 01:57 AM
slower traffic is better for the environment that highspeed traffic. best gas milage is between 35 and 45 kph for most automobiles. If your burning less fuel per mile, you are releasing less CO2 per mile.

LeftCoaster
03-31-2007, 02:25 AM
Actually most cars are designed for an optimum fuel efficency of around 90kph... thats why the highway speedlimits are set around there, above that speed fuel effiecency gets exponentially worse, and below that kilometers per gallon stays around the same until you get to about 50kph or so where it again drops off precipitously. 35-45 is actually much worse for the environment than going 90 down the highway.

Canadian Mind
03-31-2007, 02:29 AM
Actually most cars are designed for an optimum fuel efficency of around 90kph... thats why the highway speedlimits are set around there, above that speed fuel effiecency gets exponentially worse, and below that kilometers per gallon stays around the same until you get to about 50kph or so where it again drops off precipitously. 35-45 is actually much worse for the environment than going 90 down the highway.

Thats not the theory I've grown up beside. So much for my daily contribution to this site. :shrug:

hegoru
03-31-2007, 04:23 AM
Not sure if this got discussed already but looks like the Transit Village got approved:

http://www.surrey.ca/Doing+Business/Land+Development+and+Building/Plans+and+Policies/Plans+in+Progress/Surrey+Central+Transit+Village.htm

Delirium
03-31-2007, 03:42 PM
this doesn't look so bad for surrey...

http://img.travidia.com/rop-ad/4328838

fever
03-31-2007, 06:14 PM
It reminds me of the Pinnacle

SpongeG
04-01-2007, 12:29 AM
i drive around metrotown often and its really not that bad the roads are well laid out and entrances are connected well enough

there really isn't that much pedestrian traffic across from metrotown

MolsonExport
04-01-2007, 12:40 AM
fuckin unbelievable. so much construction. Amazing shit.

hollywoodnorth
04-01-2007, 01:50 AM
cool shot of the underpass being built for the Golden Ears project on Hwy 1

http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/surrey/2007/syh2007_005.jpg

hollywoodnorth
04-01-2007, 02:08 AM
http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/langley/2006/lgh2006_186.jpg

also I spoted this in Langley.......anyone know what it's called? is there a link for the project........seems to be adding a critical new North-South link to take stress off of 200th.

Canadian Mind
04-01-2007, 03:39 AM
Is that a part of what is for the new bridge?

David
04-01-2007, 04:06 AM
I believe the picture of the overpass in Langley has most to do with going over the rail tracks that are visible in the picture. I saw something about it on gvtv recently. All the crossings in Langley are level.

bils
04-01-2007, 06:00 AM
From the Richmond Review:
---------------------
By Martin van den Hemel
Staff Reporter
Mar 31 2007

It may have lost out on the lands surrounding the speed skating oval, but Concord Pacific still plans to make a major residential development splash with its first foray into Richmond.

The developer of downtown Vancouver’s False Creek is now the majority interest in one-third of the 6.9-hectare (17.1 acre) property immediately east of No. 3 Road and north of Capstan Way. The site sits west of Sexsmith Road and south of Sea Island Way. A previous development proposal dubbed the site Sun Tech City.

Pinnacle International retains control of the remaining two-thirds of the property.

Peter Webb, vice-president of development for Concord Pacific, told The Richmond Review that groundbreaking for the 16-tower residential community—five towers to be done by Concord, the remainder by Pinnacle, all centered on a future city park—could begin early next year.

Webb said Concord is also “pursuing” an assembly of land near the Capstan site, which comprises about 9.3 hectares (23 acres).

Concord Pacific develops master plans for communities, Webb explained, and typically looks for large areas of land. Along the Sea-to-Sky Highway, it’s working on the 1,400-unit Porteau Cove development and in Kelowna, a residential subdivision.

“When you’re into a community design, you’re incorporating into your design, things such as parks, public walkways, daycares, schools, public amenities of various natures, different building forms and types relating to different market groups.”

The types of projects Concord associates itself with “require some longer term commitment to the community in terms of development strategies.”

Affordable housing is incorporated in the current rezoning application, Webb noted.

But no commitments have been made regarding daycares and schools, “but that’s a result of the history of this existing rezoning application,” he said.

Thousands of people will eventually move into the area, Webb said.

“As we move into Richmond as well, we’re looking for large land development assemblies that include an opportunity to apply a master plan approach and bring to it Concord’s expertise in understanding how higher density urban environments are designed,” he said.

“We like the relationship to the Canada Line. We think it represents a good connection between the future of Richmond and its relationship with Vancouver and the urban nature of Concord’s development history.”

City of Richmond spokesperson Ted Townsend said Concord and Pinnacle’s rezoning application is still making its way through the process, but the plan could surface at a planning committee of council in April and could reach a public hearing as soon as May.

Webb sees the developments by Concord and Pinnacle, along with Wall Financial Corporation’s plan to build two 16-storey residential towers and an 11-storey hotel on its Sea Island Way property west of No. 3 Road, as the catalyst for the reshaping of northern No. 3 Road.

Although Webb wouldn’t comment on Concord’s failed bid for the oval lands, he did say Concord is “looking throughout Richmond. We are continually looking at properties in Richmond at this point.”

Concord and Pinnacle are jointly seeking a rezoning of the land, which Webb expects will wrap up in the next six months. Concord purchased its majority ownership in the southern third of the site, along Capstan Way, in May of 2006.

Webb said it will take at least five years to complete the project, with Hazelbridge Way extended and curved eastward before connecting with Sexsmith Road.

mattropolis
04-01-2007, 07:06 AM
The Langley project is:
204 Street Overpass ($18 million)
This proposed overpass will improve north-south travel across the rail tracks just south of the Langley Bypass.

"Another of the eight major road projects, the 204th Street railway overpass in Langley, will be completed and opened for traffic by the fall."

More info here:
http://www.city.langley.bc.ca/204.htm

SpongeG
04-01-2007, 08:00 AM
I believe the picture of the overpass in Langley has most to do with going over the rail tracks that are visible in the picture. I saw something about it on gvtv recently. All the crossings in Langley are level.

yes

there wasn't an over pass which proved to be a problem - trains backed traffic up badly and the city feared if there were an emergency and a trin was rolling through ambulances, fire trucks etc were cut off

that pic must be old - the ramps are done now

SpongeG
04-01-2007, 08:40 AM
something coming up for north van

A new vision for Seylynn
Coun. Doug MacKay-Dunn was driving on the residential streets east of Seylynn recCentre in the District of North Vancouver and the ex-Vancouver cop wasn’t impressed.

“This is our own little piece of Whalley, I understand there are some residences being used for crack houses,” he said. “Yeah there’s some alright houses, but it’s a mixed bag.”

“Look at that beauty,” he added and pointed at a squat, run-down bungalow on Crown Street.

MacKay-Dunn’s guided tour of the neighborhood came about a week after a 26-year-old man shot a 25-year-old acquaintance in one of these houses near the Phibbs Exchange.

“We should be ashamed of this neighbourhood,” he said.

MacKay-Dunn believes poor transportation planning has killed the area. First off, Highway 1 cuts the neighborhood in half. Cars pour from Keith Road and Mountain Highway onto Fern Street, a makeshift on-ramp to Highway 1 plowing through the neighborhood that turns into “the longest parking lot in the world,” at rush hour, MacKay-Dunn said.

On top of that the Seylynn recCentre is one of the worst buildings in the district and the grass field beside it is in horrible shape, he added.

But he’s here today to say the Seylynn Village proposal put forth by Hillside Developments’ owner Stephen Hynes could take this neighborhood from worst to first.

Hynes approached the district last year planning to redevelop the area with a mixed-use village built to the highest sustainability standards, including market and affordable housing, plus commercial and live-work space. Hillside Developments applied for a zoning change last fall and has since been acquiring private properties in the corridor between Highway 1 and Mountain Highway.

Observers of the plan have been wowed by Hynes’ innovative social engineering bent.

He has lofty architectural ideals and likes to design buildings that challenge residents to interact in unusual and inspiring spaces.

In his latest project on Granville Island five separate buildings are organized around an open atrium, with a sloped glass ceiling building called the “Gastrodome” at the centre.

He calls the “Gastrodome” the project’s “jewel,” meant to “demand the attention of users, creating opportunities for social interaction.” Landscaping in the development is edible, and units have spiraled staircases to green roofs. Hynes says the idea is to get away from the isolated, antiseptic condo towers that are sucking life from modern cities.

Hynes says in Seylynn Village residents would have miniscule energy bills. He’s even been in preliminary talks about using recycled hydrogen from nearby chemical manufacturer Canexus to power the proposed village.

Steve Jones of Hillside said the developer is looking for any partners interested in bringing innovative ideas to the table.

Like MacKay-Dunn, Jones envisions an industrial area transformed with cobble stone streets, coffee shops and boutiques and fleets of eco-friendly mini cars leased to residents.

“This is an extremely ambitious program,” he said. “We think the density we are talking about is ambitious but the right thing for the area.”

“This is a nice place to drive through, (but) it’s a pretty sad place to live,” Jones said.

The soccer community is also buying into Hynes’ transformative vision.

Barry Forward of the North Shore Girl’s Soccer Club said there are early-stage talks about rebuilding the Seylynn recCentre into a soccer training centre with a turf field.

Soccer on the North Shore is desperately lacking facilities, and bringing its family demographic to the Seylynn area could boost the neighborhood Forward said.

“The sky is the limit here...this developer is willing to explore around ideas that could dramatically improve this area.”

The sticking point will be solving the Highway 1 transportation mess. So far solution proposals include a new connector taking traffic out of the neighborhood.

“From our point of view the Ministry of Transportation has been very receptive to some creative ideas,” Jones said.

MacKay-Dunn said he senses growing momentum for the project, but “transportation is the key here.”

“The planets have to come in line, but the window seems more open now than it was six weeks ago.”

The next public information session for Seylynn Village is tentatively scheduled for late April. Following that, a revised proposal integrating public feedback will come in the summer, Jones said.

“It all comes down to having a successful public hearing,” he said.

If everything comes together, Hillside Developments would like to start on the project by the end of 2007.


http://www.northshoreoutlook.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=43&cat=23&id=862984&more=

vanman
04-02-2007, 12:49 AM
Wow, I guess we gotta add Abbotsford to this thread now.
28 story condo called Brio going up. The rendering that I saw is in the new homes guide and looks very sleek
http://brioliving.ca

LeftCoaster
04-02-2007, 05:03 AM
looks very sleek
http://brioliving.ca

Where are the renders? I went on the site and the only option was to register. Were the renders only in the new homes guide?

vanman
04-02-2007, 09:18 AM
Unfortunately yeah.

SpongeG
04-02-2007, 08:12 PM
watercolours in burnaby is really going up now - should be impressive

i should try get a pic but it must be up to 7 floors now (will be 27)

tintinium
04-02-2007, 11:20 PM
Even if it's not a sticky, the Surrey Construction thread was better on its own.

Volksboi
04-03-2007, 01:06 AM
I totally agree, anyway of starting another one, or seperating the two again? theres just to much going on in surrey for it not to have its own thread.

raggedy13
04-03-2007, 02:37 AM
^Well, at least this thread will overall be busier now... perhaps enough to be comparable with the Vancouver Construction thread.

Maybe westcoast604 could edit his first post to include the first posts from the former suburb construction thread that show what is going on in Coquitlam/New West/White Rock/Richmond/Burnaby etc. If they were all posted along with Surrey's projects, it would really show off just how much development is going on across the whole region.

westcoast604
04-03-2007, 04:44 AM
^ Alright will make some changes to my first post so its not so confusing now.

I took a trip out to Surrey today.

How many floors are they adding to the vertically phased office tower under construction at Metrotown?

Azure looks to be at about 10 floors. Lots of exposed concrete and small floor to ceiling heights.

The D'Cor tower rendering looks nice. Its going to be slender and wide, as opposed to a square shape like most other towers under construction.

vanman
04-03-2007, 06:47 AM
How many floors are they adding to the vertically phased office tower under construction at Metrotown?

Azure looks to be at about 10 floors. Lots of exposed concrete and small floor to ceiling heights.





They are only adding 6-7 floors to that office building.

And the first 10 floors of Azure are parking. I believe the actual condo floors are 9 ft high.

Volksboi
04-03-2007, 06:03 PM
Theres a public hearing at the North Surrecy Rec center across from the Central City Tower this thursday at 7pm for an overview of one of surreys largest developments, The Urban Village. might be somthing that some of you guys might want to check out!
Cheers!

Fairbanks
04-04-2007, 03:59 PM
How would you all feel about an international/ regional and municipal forUm/thread devoted to CONSTRUCTION WEBCAMS? It could be broken down the way the the other forums are.

Thumbs up or down?

Fairbanks

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SpongeG
04-05-2007, 06:24 AM
i don't know what the development is but in coquitlam in a former trailer park on lougheed mall - across from the KIA dealership - the trailer park is now being cleared and the new development should be going up

i believe its 200+ townhouses - no towers that i have heard of

but the site is fenced off and only a few trailers were left

also there is a new condo going in behind the sammy j peppers etc across from IKEA - they look kinda odd but better than the nothing that was there before

vanman
04-06-2007, 11:05 PM
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Dude, stop spamming every thread.

Canadian Mind
04-06-2007, 11:16 PM
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None of these belong in here, stop spamming the threads. If I were a mod I'd ban you. Speaking of which, I wonder if I can report this.

Fairbanks
04-07-2007, 04:20 AM
None of these belong in here, stop spamming the threads. If I were a mod I'd ban you. Speaking of which, I wonder if I can report this.


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vanman
04-07-2007, 03:21 PM
^ Chill out dude! Instead of spamming every thread (which is beyond annoying) why not create a thread based on your idea?

osirisboy
04-07-2007, 03:59 PM
i agree with fairbanks.

people on here get a little anal sometimes

Canadian Mind
04-07-2007, 04:20 PM
i agree with fairbanks.

people on here get a little anal sometimes

Link (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2749805#post2749805)

I'm gonna stand by my own principle here and end the debate within this thread. Follow the link if you wish to continue.

CC420
04-07-2007, 05:41 PM
I'll try and get this thread back on track.

Does anyone know when the second Infinity tower in Surrey is going up? I live right next to the site, and I see no signs of any work for a second tower going on. My guess is maybe labour is so hard to come by, they can only find enough workers to do one tower at a time. :shrug: I've asked a few workers, but they didn't know.

Lead
04-07-2007, 07:36 PM
^ dunno bout the second tower, but how far are they from finished the first? i swear that it's stalled or something, it never looks like any progress is being made...

CC420
04-08-2007, 10:31 PM
^ Actually I think the building is very close to being topped out or at the stage right now. They poured concrete on Thursday and I havent seen any forms brought up since. I tried a floor count the other day while walking by and I think I counted 36 completed floors. I could be wrong though as floor counting can play tricks, especially while walking. Regardless, tower 1 is certainly well on its way to completion yet there is no sign of a second tower. The spot is excavated, but its all just dirt. I find it all rather puzzling considering the developers big pockets. I was originally thinking this project would go up ahead of schedule but the opposite seems to be happening. The completion date of the complex is supposed to be 2010. The first tower has been slowly rising for about a year now. Can they put four more up in three and a half years?

I found an interesting article regarding Infinity and Mr. Jung. It's a little old but contains some interesting hints.


'Brutal' tower design draws fire for echoing 'old' West End

By Ted Colley

A Surrey city councillor took the architect of the Infinity highrise project in Whalley to task Monday night for producing a "brutal and repetitive" design for the second phase of the development.

Jung Ventures is building five highrise apartment blocks at King George Highway and 100th Avenue that will contain roughly 1,400 residential units and some commercial space at ground level.

Coun. Bob Bose said the first-phase design was good, but the two square, 35-storey second-phase structures leave something to be desired in terms of esthetics.

"This is going to look an awful lot like the West End of Vancouver - the old West End. The design advisory panel calls it '50s, '60s architecture," Bose said. "I think this project needs to be kicked back to the architect."

Architect Ron Yuen, of Davidson, Yuen, Simpson, disagreed.

"There is colour, there is light, there is joy in these buildings," he told council.

He said the drawings included in council's package Monday were black and white. Yuen displayed some colour renderings of the proj