[Elmiraguy]

Thanks to Cambridgite and WaterlooInvestor for your responses to my post.
Glad to see it isn't just those of us from the Townships who think this a sound iidea.

The only thing that concerns me about your proposed route WaterlooInvestor is the time it would take to make a one-way trip. Obviously you want to be able to service as many communities as possible while at the same time increasing the number of people who can then use/pay for the bus service.
However, a trip from Elmira to the communities to the west would take some time, and if I remember my geography of transportation course, people are less likely to use a transit service if it is not a viable alternative to using a car.

Now at the risk of sounding ungrateful, the proposed route would still be better than what exists today, which is nothing. But again I wonder; if a private company found it suitably feasible to run such a service for nearly two decades (they may very well have been subsidised), then surely it is no less feasible for GRT to operate a bus service from Elmira-St Jacobs-Conestogo Mall.

As I don't drive, I now live in Waterloo, and like it here very much! It would be nice though to have a means to get back to see family and friends other than a taxi which is not very cheap.

I have sent several letters of enquiry to the GRT and the Region (the chair of which lives in Elmira), and have never even received a response. I can only deduce from this that there is little if any regard for such a service to be offered to Elmira, and other communities within the Region.

Out of curiousity WaterlooInvestor, where did you find the population figures for the different communities in Waterloo Region?

Thanks again for your replies.

I completely agree with you. I'd extend Route 21 up to Elmira and operate the service 6 days a week (to start). Depending on time runs, I'd look into having the route return on Regional Road 10 in order to increase the catchment area: WALLENSTEIN (109), HAWKESVILLE (264), ST. CLEMENTS (1,377), HEIDELBERG (1158). Add St. Jacob's (1813) and Elmira (9421) and the route would serve 14,142 people. [Note: the 2016 population forecasts are 12,200 for Elmira and 2,090 for St. Jacob's] For the extended route, add in a 2nd return stop at the Market, so there's still quick access to and from the Market.

Back in the 90's I know people from the north end of Waterloo attended Elmira District Secondary School. Is this still the case? If so, that would likely add a boost to the routes ridership.

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Some of the towns are just booming. Breslau's population was 630 in 2002, 906 in 2007 and is forecasted to be 3750 in 2016. For now, if we're talking about 2008 service improvements, then Route 15 could be extended to the town and also to the RoW Airport. Once the Fairway bridge is built, then the routes could be reviewed to see exactly where the airport link should be.

For Wilmot Township, it was the fastest growing section of Waterloo Region from 2001-2006: 15.0%. The route could start at Highland Hills Terminal, head down Synder's Road with a stop(s) in Petersberg (400), Baden (3562), New Hamberg (6756), and return on Bleams Road (which becomes Ottawa) hitting Mannheim (1064). Total route population: 11782.

I've heard that GRT's "new 5 year business plan being developed will supposedly call for a "rural service strategy" whatever that will entail is still unknown."

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It would be interesting if the township could subsidize such a service, but since they are within Waterloo Region, it doesn't seem right that they should have to. The situation in Ottawa with transit service to Rockland is really a fantastic model, but I'm not too certain of how applicable it is to the present day.

I have no doubt that a route into Elmira, extended from St. Jacobs, would work. I expect that you would get a fair number of commuters using it. I think instead of focusing on catching all the villages, it would be better to ensure that Elmira is adequately served. As a rough rule, 500m is about the maximum distance one should be from a bus stop, so if it were to go up Arthur St., and then loop around on Church, Killdeer and 1st, the entire community should have adequate access.

I'm rather curious if any of the Mennonites would use the service at all. A lot of them are employed in St. Jacobs and Elmira, and Elmira would be the primary community serving them; however, I'm rather ignorant of their views on bus travel - whether it is deemed too worldly or not. I'm thinking primarily of those who shun the use of a car and bike everywhere. Would the bus be a suitable alternative for them?

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Yes the Mennonites would absolutely use the bus service! They used it often when their was a bus service in the past. While many do most shopping in Elmira, they will often go into Waterloo for other shopping, or for personal matters (medical etc.).

Ideally I'd like to see all the communities of Waterloo Region have access to trasnit service, but (and bias notwithstanding), it seems to me that Elmira would be the most logical community to start with, as it is the largest community within the Region without transit service.

The rate could be assesed on a distance factor, much like transit systems in other parts of the world. If you are starting from a certain distance outside the main hub, a higher price is charged for the ticket. After all, upon arriving at Conestoga Mall, a transfer could be part of the initial ticket cost.

It would be interesting if the township could subsidize such a service, but since they are within Waterloo Region, it doesn't seem right that they should have to. The situation in Ottawa with transit service to Rockland is really a fantastic model, but I'm not too certain of how applicable it is to the present day.

I have no doubt that a route into Elmira, extended from St. Jacobs, would work. I expect that you would get a fair number of commuters using it. I think instead of focusing on catching all the villages, it would be better to ensure that Elmira is adequately served. As a rough rule, 500m is about the maximum distance one should be from a bus stop, so if it were to go up Arthur St., and then loop around on Church, Killdeer and 1st, the entire community should have adequate access.

I'm rather curious if any of the Mennonites would use the service at all. A lot of them are employed in St. Jacobs and Elmira, and Elmira would be the primary community serving them; however, I'm rather ignorant of their views on bus travel - whether it is deemed too worldly or not. I'm thinking primarily of those who shun the use of a car and bike everywhere. Would the bus be a suitable alternative for them?

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....After waiting three years for the city to decide on the proposal, Loblaw appealed in June to the OMB, an independent provincial tribunal that can overrule local planning decisions.
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As I learn more and more about the OMB, I see less and less benefits of it. Why should an outside body be able to intervene and tell a city, which is familiar with it's best interests, how to run itself? How stupid is it that a company gets upset by a city's ruling, so like a disobedient child, runs to the 'other parent' hopping to get a different overruling answer? It's ridiculous!

As a resident who would lives 2 blocks from the site, I agree with the city. It's not needed, and the land is much better suited for office-use. (or mixed use IMO)

[jeremy_haak]

As I learn more and more about the OMB, I see less and less benefits of it. Why should an outside body be able to intervene and tell a city, which is familiar with it's best interests, how to run itself? How stupid is it that a company gets upset by a city's ruling, so like a disobedient child, runs to the 'other parent' hopping to get a different overruling answer? It's ridiculous!

As a resident who would lives 2 blocks from the site, I agree with the city. It's not needed, and the land is much better suited for office-use. (or mixed use IMO)

Within larger cities, the OMB is really not needed, as the planning processes are well established and thought out. In smaller towns, the decision-making process isn't necessarily as well established, and so some oversight is useful.

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Well we've talked about the "ugly" box highrises they are building at King and Columbia and why the City isn't getting involved in encouraging better design. However, the more I read about the Superstore issue the more impressed I am getting with the planning/work of the City (comes and goes though.. hehe).

Loblaws is looking for a quick, easy solution to making big bucks without any regards for the local community. One factor that disturbs me is:
"The city is also concerned that Loblaw, which owns the Zehrs in Conestoga Mall, would place restrictions preventing a new grocery store from moving in once Zehrs has closed." That kind of action really puts a damper on growth and progress. It's simple greed. Another factor is: "City development planner Joel Cotter said discussions with Loblaw were ongoing and that the company was always aware of the city's basic concerns with the proposal." Companies like First Gulf worked with The City and ensured plans aligned with City planning and goals. (Parking issue was individual greed, met City regulations). A Big Box style design has NO PLACE in this area of Waterloo. As long as Loblaws insists in ignoring alternative urban/mixed-use/high density design I ask all to voice concern at the OMB hearing... if you can. Unfortunately, the time sucks for majority of us that work. :hell:

A pre-hearing at the OMB is set for 10:30 a.m. on Friday in Waterloo council chambers. The meeting is open to the public.

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So I brought up my thoughts about the OMB (as I am new to this idea) in a municipal gov. & planning course I had today and heard some good arguments for and against its existance.

I guess my question is this: Why does the OMB exist as an independant body when it is essentially acting as the role of the provience in local planning issues? Should it not be held accountable to the public through elected (or appointed by elected) officials if it is going to dictate plans that have huge impact on the opperation of cities as a whole? And if we accept that the OMB deals with the larger picture of provincial planning policy, what the heck are they doing medeling in minuet affairs such as local zoning as petitioned by big-business?

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I agree, I don't think it's the city's fault for the low-end projects. In fact, I think the city does want high-end development to occur. You mentioned First Gulf. There's also Barrel Yards where the city worked with Auburn to increase the quality of the buildings. There are little things like how the Uptown Loop signs are modern looking. Then there are other city initiatives such as going after the Intelligent Community Award. IMO, a city trying to be up there with cities like Seoul and Paris, projects a desire to have glass modern towers similar to these global cities. [obviously I realize we aren't a world city, in my mind we're an emerging Canadian City - so we're not even a North American city yet, but it's initiatives like this that show the city wants to punch above our weight]


Well said, its also excellent efficiency of our tax dollars. The Development Services Department at the City of Waterloo is doing good. It helps that the City is out of land which is encouraging strategic development, but still the Department is doing their job instead of throwing their hands up and crying to the province or region for help. Kudos.

[Waterlooson]

Good article WaterlooInvestor, by the way, it was reported on BNN this morning that RIM is now Canada's largest company by market cap!

Way to go Waterloo!

[Cambridgite]

Holy Moly! :cheers:

[WatDot]

As I learn more and more about the OMB, I see less and less benefits of it. Why should an outside body be able to intervene and tell a city, which is familiar with it's best interests, how to run itself? How stupid is it that a company gets upset by a city's ruling, so like a disobedient child, runs to the 'other parent' hopping to get a different overruling answer? It's ridiculous!

As a resident who would lives 2 blocks from the site, I agree with the city. It's not needed, and the land is much better suited for office-use. (or mixed use IMO)

Technically the province (OMB) should side with the City's desire for higher density use given urban sprawl reduction and increased public transit use is a provincial priority. BUT it does seem like other factions of government have had issues with the OMB in the past. I've heard stories of them siding with corporations far too much in unreasonable circumstances. This is from the President of the Ontario Public Health Association back in 2004:

"Role of the OMB
We are pleased to see the Planning Reform address the complicated nature of the Ontario Municipal Board. We believe that it should be required that land-use decisions "be consistent with" provincial policies, and we support this change. We concur that in recent years the OMB process has become inaccessible to the public and support any changes designed to ensure the concerns of ordinary citizens will be heard in the process. As you modify the role of the OMB, we suggest you consider adding a representative from the public health sector to ensure that the public's health is a prime consideration in its deliberations."

http://www.opha.on.ca/advocacy/letters/planningreform-july04.html

Now I have to look into this Planning Reform. :yes:

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RIM shares hits fresh high on China deal
Teams up with telecom giant Alcatel-Lucent to sell BlackBerrys in China
David George-Cosh, Financial Post
Published: Tuesday, October 23, 2007

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Research in Motion co-CEO Jim Balsillie is silhouetted while speaking at the Ottawa Centre for Research and Innovation Technology Showcase. RIM has partnered with telecom giant Alcatel-Lucent to sell BlackBerry wireless devices in China.

Investors yesterday sent Research in Motion Ltd.'s stock to a record high, at one point making it the most valuable company in the country during trading yesterday, after revealing it had partnered with telecom giant Alcatel-Lucent to sell BlackBerry wireless devices in China.

The manufacturer saw its stocks surge to $120.42 on the TSX, up 8.19% following the announcement that their 8700 BlackBerry model would be distributed in the booming Chinese market later this year, though no specific date was given for distribution. The stock jumped US$11.15, or 9.8%, to close at US$124.53 on the Nasdaq market.

Canaccord Adams senior technology analyst Peter Misek said RIM's developments in China are just the beginning of what could be a banner year for the Waterloo, Ont.-based company.

"This is going to be the biggest company in Canada," said Mr. Misek, who rates RIM as a "buy." "The company is a world beater and its technology is second-to-none. It's got an excellent execution engine and tremendous earnings growth."

"This is just step one for RIM in China. They're going to have additional partnerships, additional devices, additional services," he added.

China poses a huge opportunity for RIM. The country is relatively untapped in terms of mobile device penetration, with more than 10 million workers employed in Fortune 1000 companies and around 400 million middle-class residents who have found themselves flush with disposable income and with a culture that embraces new, exciting technology.

However, RBC Capital Markets analyst Mike Abramsky said that yesterday's market reaction was ahead of itself and was valuing RIM mostly on its long-term prospects rather than what he called, "modest traction in the short term." He rated the stock as an outperform.

Still, the announcement caused the street to drive RIM's market capitalization to a peak of $69.2-billion, surpassing Royal Bank of Canada as the country's most valuable company for much of the afternoon. RIM's shares are the biggest success story on the TSX, increasing 138% so far this year and rising more than twentyfold over the past five years.

Any concerns over RIM entering the risky Chinese market, says Mr. Misek, should be calmed with its decision to partner with Alcatel-Lucent, which has strong roots in China.

"Alcatel-Lucent has been ... in China a lot longer than RIM has, for about the past 25 years," he said. "You have to have senior politburo contacts in order to do business in China in the scale that they're looking at."

Entering a major market such as China won't be a cakewalk for RIM, says Rob Enderle, president of the Enderle Group, a market research firm in San Jose, Calif. He says RIM will face daunting competition in a market saturated with a number of different mobile options, including the RedBerry, a homegrown BlackBerry knockoff.

Mr. Misek doesn't believe the cheaper device, made by China Unicom, will pose any challenge for RIM's 8700 model once the device hits the Chinese market.

"[RIM] has a network operations centre that effectively manages IP address, traffic, data, everything. Then you have compression and spectral technologies that RIM employs and an operating system on its devices that is remarkably thin and efficient," said Mr. Misek.

"There's so much more intellectual property than just a brand, which is why they're beating companies like Palm, Microsoft and Apple."


From GlobeInvestor.com

RIM Stock Chart - October 23, 2007
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S&P/TSX Composite Top 10 at the close October 23, 2007:
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I don't know if anyone else realized this but we have the head offices of the number 2 and number 3 largest companies in Canada located in waterloo.........WATERLOO ROCKS.......Not to mention we are an awsome place for business

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So I'm yet to hear back from Elmiraguy, Deez, and Koops65, but from what I've gathered, there's a mix of opinions about my idea for a SSP:Local section (like Vancouver) for Waterloo Region. Three have told me they want it. One has told me they think it's unnecessary. Two have told me they think we should have a provincial sub-forum like Toronto.

The more I think about it, a provincial sub-forum makes the most sense. We certainly don't have the volume that Vancouver has, and personally, I don't think Halifax needs its own SSP:Local. Onishenko has pointed out that Calgary and Edmonton have numerous threads scattered about the Alberta section, but I'm personally not a big fan of that kind of disorganization, especially in a province where we have more than two major cities. I've checked the Alberta section and I really think those 2 cities could benefit from a SSP:Local or provincial subforum at a minimum.

So what do you say? I was thinking that if we get a provincial subforum, it could be organized like this:

-The Ultimate Waterloo Region Rendering Thread (Barrelyards, Centre Block, etc.)
-Downtown updates
-Suburban updates (i.e. sportsworld crossing, auburn place, etc.)
-Townships (Woolwich, Wilmot, Wellesley, and North Dumfries)
-Universities (i.e. Optometry expansion, Engineering expansion, etc.)
-Business and Economy (the many RIM posts of WaterlooInvestor, etc.)
-Transportation and Infrastructure (i.e. highways 7, 8, 424, GRT, LRT, GO, etc.)
-General Discussion (various issues, like the Airport, politics, OMB, design, etc.)
-Waterloo Region photos (such as the ones done by myself and Flar)

Let me know what you think and feel free to add anything.

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That list is good, though one topic I'd add is "Arts, Culture and Entertainment".

Good point.

Do I feel there's enough activity going on in Waterloo Region for SSP:Local? Yes

21 skyscrapers construction/proposed
2 urban university campuses construction/proposed
new hotels, office space, retail
streetscape improvements, visionary plans (Civic Square, Waterloo Strategic Plan 2007-2010, etc..)
transportation: highways 7, 8, 424, GRT, LRT, GO
culture: a growing festival atmosphere - almost every weekend in the summer


Well, I wouldn't be so generous in what I call "skyscrapers" but I see your point. We have enough projects of importance going on to warrant it.

Now, Do I feel there's enough activity among Waterloo Region forumers for SSP:Local? Not really yet. (it would probably help if we were closer to 20 members)

That said, our "membership" has been increasing, and I wonder if we could grow into a SSP:Local format. By expanding our topic base and organization, it might attract some new members.

That's a good point. Our membership rate isn't the greatest, considering the size of city we're dealing with. It could also bring more interest from the outside as well.

I'd really like to set up a thread for each of our developments this way: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=137995

Each project in this section should have its own thread, and please use the following syntax for creating new project threads:

NAME | HEIGHT | FLOORS | STATUS

NAME - full project name
HEIGHT - the building's height in meters
FLOORS - the floor count of the building
STATUS - U/C, Proposed, Completed

Examples of thread titles:
Shangri-La | 197m | 60 fl | U/C
The Ritz Carlton | 183m | 58 fl | U/C
Jameson House | 116m | 37 fl | U/C

Yes, I love it! That would be one of my first priorities when creating the new format. It'll give us something to build on without me having to memorize every single new project going on (which is getting increasingly difficult).

It would probably be too much for the rest of Ontario to constantly see our Waterloo Region threads, and if every Ontairo city did the same the Ontario section would quickly become too messy. For this reason, IMO a folder is a must, and I still lean towards the full SSP:Local (perhaps with a few less threads the way Ottawa is proposing) because I feel we could grow into it.

Yeah, this is what I don't like when I go into the Alberta section. Calgary's and Edmonton's threads are scattered all over the place. And they are just two cities. In Ontario, we have many more cities to deal with and even if Waterloo Region, Ottawa, and Hamilton had their own separate threads strewn about the Ontario section, things would get messy pretty fast. That's why I'm against that format in the Ontario section. I think we could start with an Ontario sub-forum (like Toronto) with relatively few threads, and then build it up as demand warrants. Eventually, we may need an SSP:Local, but I think we're a long ways away. Quite frankly, I don't even know why Halifax needs one.

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We hardly have the daily post count to warrant it. In the Edmonton thread for example, we have 100 new posts a day, plus other Edmonton related threads.

The best thing to do is to post all that information on the first post of a new thread, complete with any available pictures and the rest. Every time something is changed/announced/updated, the creator of that post can go back and update the information.

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We hardly have the daily post count to warrant it. In the Edmonton thread for example, we have 100 new posts a day, plus other Edmonton related threads.

The best thing to do is to post all that information on the first post of a new thread, complete with any available pictures and the rest. Every time something is changed/announced/updated, the creator of that post can go back and update the information.

Yeah, I really think that's our first step. We don't have a really URGENT need for a sub-forum yet. However, I do think a project rendering thread is becoming more urgent, and I like that idea of being able to update it whenever something is changed/announced/updated. For now, I guess, issues like highways 7 and 424 can continue to have their own spot under the Ontario section. We can revisit the issue later as Waterloo Region Development News continues to develop. So I guess what we should work on now is how we're going to create this new project rendering thread. Over the next little while, I'm going to try and get the information we need (i.e. height, number of storeys, status, images, etc.). Any help would be appreciated.

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The rendering thread is up and Mike K has stickied it for me!! :banana:

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Yeah, I really think that's our first step. We don't have a really URGENT need for a sub-forum yet. However, I do think a project rendering thread is becoming more urgent, and I like that idea of being able to update it whenever something is changed/announced/updated. For now, I guess, issues like highways 7 and 424 can continue to have their own spot under the Ontario section. We can revisit the issue later as Waterloo Region Development News continues to develop. So I guess what we should work on now is how we're going to create this new project rendering thread. Over the next little while, I'm going to try and get the information we need (i.e. height, number of storeys, status, images, etc.). Any help would be appreciated.

I thought 5/6 people told you they wanted an upgrade (either a folder or SSP:Local)? Given those results, why would we not go through with it?

I think we could start with an Ontario sub-forum (like Toronto) with relatively few threads, and then build it up as demand warrants. Eventually, we may need an SSP:Local, but I think we're a long ways away. Quite frankly, I don't even know why Halifax needs one.

We hardly have the daily post count to warrant it. In the Edmonton thread for example, we have 100 new posts a day, plus other Edmonton related threads.
The best thing to do is to post all that information on the first post of a new thread, complete with any available pictures and the rest. Every time something is changed/announced/updated, the creator of that post can go back and update the information.

First thing regarding Edmonton's Post count: I feel it should have an SSP:Local section then, although it's not up for me to decide this.

Second regarding a renders post: I fully support having a list and congratulate Cambridgite for setting one up. However, I still don't feel this is enough to grow our community faster.

Third thing regarding our lack of members (so far): although I agree with this, I still would like a folder and preferably SSP:Local because I feel this is the fastest way to grow our membership. A few points:


To begin with, I only started this thread 7 months ago and we already have about 10 members. It's a relatively new thread so it's still building itself.
That said, I want to see 50 members here in the next 7 months. Sound lofty? Sure, but I've got ideas to make this happen, though continuing with the "Status Quo" will not result in this type of growth.
For maximum results, we should go the SSP:Local route. Although it's not fully needed right now - I promise to help grow this section over the next few months (and I'm hoping Cambridgite and others will help me). Here's why:



Right now the Waterloo Region forumers are divided between SSC and SSP. IMO, having our own section would attract some SSC posters here.
Right now posts get lost too quickly in this thread. I posted some UW Pharmacy pictures and they're already pushed back with no comments. In contrast, there has been a few posts over on Urban Toronto: http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=7072&page=2 . If we had our own UW Pharmacy thread here, I think we could generate some more discussion. At the very least, I'd PM all the UrbanToronto people who commented in that thread (and also the KWC photo threads flar posted there) to let them know Waterloo Region now has it's own section. They might be interested.
For our transit board, I would let people know on Canadian Public Transportation Discussion Board that we now have a Waterloo Region Transit section here as well. http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?showtopic=1322 This is where I first read about the proposed iXpress lanes on Highway 8. There's a few people there from Waterloo Region, and I hope some would start posting on our new transit board as well.
Now over the next few months I'm also willing to go to other forums. Sports forums (OHL/CFL expansion) and Cultural sites for "Culture, Dining, Sports and Recreation"
On top of that, I can email organziations. Groups like Heritage Kitchener and the Centre in the Square, etc.. might want to post here. Same goes for the Kitchener Dowtown Business Association , the Uptown Waterloo Business Improvement Area and the Downtown Cambridge B.I.A. If we have a more professional looking section that SSP:Local offers, we might be able to attract them. I doubt they'd even look at this jumbled thread though.


In short, I'm all in favour of SSP:Local Waterloo Region. Although we don't have the current membership, this will give us a tool to attract new members. Things won't 'pop' the very next day, or even in the first week, but over time I believe we can find ways to grow our membership.

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Hey fellas,

I was contacted by a Waterloo forumer and asked to start a poll on SSP:Local Waterloo. I'll go ahead and start that now.

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I noticed a couple of things the other day when I was in KW. First of all, a pretty high-end looking men's apparel store called "Channer's" is opening in the WTS parking lot redevelopment at the corner of King and Willis Way. It will be directly across from the public square (speaking of which, isn't that supposed to be under construction now?). Also, the sign is now up for David's Gourmet. As well, I noticed a few dilapidated houses in the King and Cedar area getting renovated. It was probably one of the worst blocks in the inner city and there were 3 homes being extensively renovated in the same block!! One of those houses used to be totally boarded up and really ghetto looking. Methinks there is some major gentrification going on and this would be a good time to buy a house near downtown K-town. :cool:

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It is. :hell:

Since when? When I drove by, I saw the same parking lot and no construction. Maybe I wasn't looking close enough :shrug:? Anyways, I'll update that as U/C. And by the looks of it, I should update the Scott and Weber apartment building from "proposed" to "approved".

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You misunderstood me. I meant:

It is [supposed to be under-construction] :hell: (that icon is because I'm pissed it isn't)

Ohhhh! :haha:

I thought you were pissed at my ignorance or blindness or something. Haha, I didn't know why you'd get mad at me for something like that. Now it makes sense :haha:. Was kinda confused there.

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How much space does it look like "Channer's" will be occupying?

I'm not sure of the square footage, but it looks like a decent size. It's in the RBC building. In those buildings in general, the retail units are quite large (i.e. LCBO). For reference, it's right on the corner of King and Willis Way. A very prominent location and I suspect they will do well there. They will have that rounded effect on their corner unit, which I think will look cool.

Any information about those new buildings that are supposed to be going up on the south side of Willis Way and all the way out to Caroline? After Channer's, I think there's only one vacant retail unit left, although I'll have to check on that one to be sure.

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^ Hey, I've seen that one. It's in the middle of Vaughan...I mean, South-west Kitchener, haha! That's the kind of thing I was thinking of putting into the "suburbs" section of our "construction and land development" section in SSP: Local. I don't really think it's worthy of making it into the rendering/proposals thread though. Only the very significant suburban developments like sportsworld crossing or a power centre. Speaking of which, I saw an article outlining where some new power centres were going to be in Waterloo Region and Guelph.

Since we're on the topic, the old "Main Prototypes" factory was torn down at Franklin and Bishop streets and has been replaced by a small office building. Investors Group is taking it over. Not a major news story, but it's representative of our changing economy. Also, the land parcel by Franklin and the 401, which has been for sale forever, has recently been sold :) . I remember an old sign there that said "Pinebush Business Centre" and had a picture of some office buildings on it. I probably wouldn't even know about this if I didn't drive that route all the time.

Also, there is an office complex being built further down Pinebush (to the east). It's diagnally across from that Hopewell Business Park that you posted as our metro's worst office development. Luckily, this one's a bit better, but it's still crap. It resembles a stip mall, except 2 storeys and all office units. Townline and 401 is quite the booming sprawlsville.

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Here is some land I've been wondering about. How about the land just NE of King N and the 85 by the market? It's got a sign from SmartCentres on it. (AKA local power centre developer) Are they really planning something there?

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A bit of an old article, but here it is.

http://www.rexmagazine.ca/rexmagazine/issue_may2006/issue_may2006_1296206.html

Woolwich Wal-Mart still moving ahead
Chuck Howitt, The Record
(May 29, 2006)

The Wal-Mart store proposed for just north of Waterloo has taken almost as long to get off the ground as the one in Guelph.

But construction is expected to start next year on a new power centre, anchored by a Wal-Mart, at King Street and Highway 85 in Woolwich Township.

The project was first proposed in 1997 but ran into opposition from area merchants and residents, as well as from the City of Waterloo, which feared the discount retailer would draw customers away from downtown businesses.

The power centre was eventually approved by the Ontario Municipal Board in 2002, but was further delayed by negotiations to pay for traffic improvements at a nearby interchange.

Those issues have been resolved, clearing the way for a 305,000-square-foot shopping centre, anchored by a 105,000-square-foot Wal-Mart store.

The Woolwich Wal-Mart would be the fourth in Waterloo Region. The other three were erected with little opposition.

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wow... another piece of garbage. So, no stopping this one?

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Power Centers are planned for Ira Needles/Erb and Ira Needles/University. The Williamsburg Shopping centre is expanding to the other side of Fischer-Hallman and yes, Wal-Mart is moving out by King/85. On top of that, a bunch of new stores have opened up in the Bridgecam Power Centre (Hespeler/401), including Tommy Hilfigger, Mexx, and Urban Planet (ironic name for the location).

Read on....

http://www.rexmagazine.ca/rexmagazine/issue_jan2007/issue_jan2007_918758.html

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wow... another piece of garbage. So, no stopping this one?

The best thing you can do when you don't want a Wal-Mart in your community is to simply not shop there. If everyone did this, the Wal-Mart would close down. Not always that simple though. When the suburban population keeps expanding like this, it's inevitable that your going to get more of these types of stores servicing them. And the big-box category-killers are the dominant trend of today.

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Here's an interesting read about Guelph's Wal-Mart challenge.

http://www.rexmagazine.ca/rexmagazine/issue_may2006/issue_may2006_1296321.html

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First off, thanks for posting the info because although these aren't showcase developments, we still want to know everything that's going on. That said, right off the bat this sounded eerily familiar. Don't feel as though I'm signalling you out, because I've personally thought/posted duplicate information on here as well that I didn't remember (due to the disorganization in this thread), but I'd like to use this as an example of why we need SSP:Local.

Actually, I wasn't posting the same thing. The corporate centre I was talking about earlier was the "Cambridge Corporate Centre" on Jamieson Pkwy, north of the 401. What I posted about yesterday was the Pinebush Business Centre, which is also different from the Pinebush Business Park, which is also different from the Hopewell Business Park. I know, it's confusing, but there's a lot of development going on there. It's hard to conceptualize it by writing on this forum. Just know that there's a lot of activity and tons of different buildings all being developed at the same time. Kind of Milton-esque....rediculous. And yes, it's 5am and I'm still up because of a damn Regional Impact Analysis assignment...sue me :P .

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:haha: What are you writing for your R.I.A. assignment?

Lots of stuff. I'm pretending there's a tourism event happening in two places and using a whole bunch of charts, calculations, etc. to determine where it will have more impact and explain a whole bunch of variables, blah, blah blah. I just want to finish the thing. Then again, here I am procrastinating. :haha:

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Cambridgite...
I think that Regina St. development you have posted in the renderings folder is no longer. Looks like they are trying to lease the property as purely office space now:

http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/A/8/9/A8995593-6184-4BA5-9899-F4F275C24E0B.pdf

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Lots of stuff. I'm pretending there's a tourism event happening in two places and using a whole bunch of charts, calculations, etc. to determine where it will have more impact and explain a whole bunch of variables, blah, blah blah. I just want to finish the thing. Then again, here I am procrastinating. :haha:

hah, I think we are in the same class. At 1 AM while writing my analysis, I realized I had screwed up in inputting the numbers into the computer model, so I decided to call it a night and take the 10% late penalty instead of starting over :D

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The new design reminds me of the King Street Office/Retail Blocks at Waterloo Town Square. My biggest concern here is: Where's the Retail Space?

I think they are following the Waterloo Town Square project for direction. Office space with First Gulf's project is pretty close to being completely leased if not all. The retail still has lots of vacancy. If anyone noticed they paved over the third phase of retail/office development on Willis Way to provide more parking. Surely a temporary action, but I don't think the retail is getting scooped up as fast as they thought. Need the Bauer Lofts and Barrel Yards developed, then we'll see plenty of retail action!

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I think that Regina St. development you have posted in the renderings folder is no longer. Looks like they are trying to lease the property as purely office space now:

http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/A/8/9/A8995593-6184-4BA5-9899-F4F275C24E0B.pdf

Ugh :( , well that's a disappointment. Not just the fact that it was a nice development getting shelved, but also what's replacing it. A very uninspired little office building in the core with 23 parking spaces. I hope it's not surface parking. The auto-centrism in this region is out-of-control. Looks like I will have to update this bad news in my renderings thread. At least it's office space going uptown this time, not out on the fringe.

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I think they are following the Waterloo Town Square project for direction. Office space with First Gulf's project is pretty close to being completely leased if not all. The retail still has lots of vacancy. If anyone noticed they paved over the third phase of retail/office development on Willis Way to provide more parking. Surely a temporary action, but I don't think the retail is getting scooped up as fast as they thought. Need the Bauer Lofts and Barrel Yards developed, then we'll see plenty of retail action!

In a small downtown (uptown) like Waterloo's, it's hard for retail to be competitive with suburban shopping districts as it will never have the same degree of a convenient parking arrangement (and let's hope it never does). The only way to really overcome this is by intensification. You need the critical mass of people living or working there to support the retail. While it is intensifying, it's just not at that point yet. I think the demand for retail uptown is pretty saturated and will be for the next little while. So while we have Barrelyards and Bauer Lofts rising up, remember that both of those projects incorporate their own retail. Bauer lofts will have a lot of retail, while there will be a more modest amount in the Barrelyards. But I think the supply is outpacing the demand. At least the LRT and continuing residential/office development provide some hope in the medium term. And don't forget all those student mid-rises just north of uptown.

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Hey everyone. My name's John, or "kitchener-lrt". This is my first post! I've been coming to this site for quite a while now (a few months), and I decided to join in on the conversation. I realized that this topic is lacking transportation news, so I'll try to fill that gap hahaha.

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GRT drivers to announce bus stops
October 26, 2007
RAVEENA AULAKH
RECORD STAFF; With files from The Canadian Press

WATERLOO REGION

Grand River Transit drivers will soon start announcing bus stops, following a provincewide warning from the Ontario Human Rights Commission.
By not announcing every stop for passengers, the commission warned that bus drivers could be violating riders' rights.

Chief commissioner Barbara Hall said announced stops would be especially helpful for the visually impaired.

Eric Gillespie, director of Transit Services for Waterloo Region, said Grand River Transit was already planning to expand automated voice-transmission technology to the entire fleet in the next three years.
"This (decision) will accelerate it," said Gillespie, who heard from the Ontario Human Rights Commission last week.

The commission's statement follows a recent decision by the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario that ruled that Toronto Transit Commission was violating riders' rights by not announcing every bus and streetcar stop.

The tribunal made a similar ruling in 2005 because of the lack of announcements in subways.

Gillespie said Grand River Transit's earlier decision to announce stops was made based on recommendations from the transport subpanel of Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act.

The region's iXpress buses, which run through Cambridge, Kitchener and Waterloo, have automated technology that announces every stop for the passengers.

"We knew the iXpress automated voice transmission technology was working well," Gillespie said. "We thought we'll expand that."

In the meantime, bus drivers have been asked to announce stops on specific requests. The bus service is also looking for other interim options.

Gillespie isn't sure if announcements will be made at every stop or just at major intersections.

"We also have to work out if operators require special training for this," Gillespie said.

The issue will be discussed with employees next week.

"It's a great service to have on the GRT fleet," Gillespie said. "We want to implement it as quickly as possible."

Paula Saunders of the Independent Living Centre of Waterloo Region hopes that it is implemented soon.

She said it was a great decision for the visually impaired.

"If they miss a stop and got down at an unfamiliar location, it's disorienting for them."

Saunders, director of community support services, said the change will also help people in wheelchairs who face the rear of the bus and can't see which stop is coming up.

"It's something that the community has needed for long," said Saunders, adding it's common for stop announcements to be made on subways and trains.

"So, why not on the bus?"

Saunders said part of the concern is that operators need to focus on driving.

"I understand that. I think some sort of a canned message may work."

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Bearskin Additional Service


For Immediate Release October 22, 2007


Bearskin Airlines adds additional service
to help students get home for the holidays!

Waterloo Region - Bearskin Airlines announced today the addition of a 4th flight daily on select dates during the holiday season to accommodate anticipated demand from students and leisure guests. This announcement comes on the heels of the successful launch of service between Waterloo Region and Ottawa.

On October 1, 2007 Bearskin Airlines launched three round trip flights each business day as well as Sunday service between the Region of Waterloo International Airport (YKF) and Ottawa International Airport (YOW). Up to four hours can be saved on a round-trip flight by using this new nonstop service as compared to the use of Toronto's Pearson terminal and the associated drive to and from Waterloo Region.

Bearskin's decision to enhance service on select dates over the winter break is directly related to the overwhelming response shown by students and their parents leading up to and following the Thanksgiving weekend which resulted in limited availability and a number of sold out flights.

"Student demand has been much stronger than we anticipated," commented Harvey Friesen, President of the airline. "Our Marketing Department was flooded with calls and e-mail messages from parents and students with requests to make more inventory available at our introductory fares. 'Help me get my kids home for Thanksgiving' was the standard plea."

Extra flights will be available on the three days leading up to the Dec 22 weekend and for an additional two days starting Jan 2, 2008. This added inventory coincides with Bearskin Airlines' first seat sale since our October 1st startup with fares as low as $89 one way plus taxes and surcharges.

"It is great to see that the response to Bearskin's new Ottawa service has been so positive that they are adding an additional daily flight on selected days during the holiday season to meet expected demand," said Ken Seiling, Regional Chair. "This will provide greater convenience for students and other leisure travellers in making their holiday travel plans."

"Our expectation is that we will see a similar demand on these select dates," remarked Ron Hell, Director of Marketing & Sales, "So we have decided to add more service to ensure we can accommodate everyone."

Following are the details of Bearskin's holiday service (additional frequency in bold type valid Dec. 21st to 23rd and Jan. 2nd and 3rd):

Kitchener/Waterloo (YKF) to Ottawa (YOW)

Monday to Friday
Dep. 6:45 a.m. / Arr. 7:55 a.m.

Monday to Friday
Dep. 10:15 a.m. / Arr. 11:25 a.m.

Monday to Friday
Dep. 1:00 p.m. / Arr. 2:10 p.m.

Sunday to Friday
Dep. 4:30 p.m. / Arr. 5:40 p.m.




Ottawa (YOW) to Kitchener/Waterloo (YKF)

Monday to Friday
Dep. 8:15 a.m. / Arr. 9:25 a.m.

Monday to Friday
Dep. 12 noon / Arr. 1:10 p.m.

Monday to Friday
Dep. 2:40 p.m. / Arr. 3:50 p.m.

Sunday to Friday
Dep. 6:00 p.m. / Arr. 7:10 p.m.




Take the hassle out of your business and vacation travel and choose your local alternative! The Region of Waterloo International Airport is easy to navigate with modern amenities including high-speed wireless Internet, complimentary baggage carts and car rentals. No traffic jams or lost vehicles, just convenient and friendly air service.

Let the Bear fly you there in less time than it takes to drive between Waterloo Region and Toronto's Airport. Save time and money and collect Aeroplan points with every flight. For more information, visit www.bearskinairlines.com, call 1-800-465-2327 or ask your local travel agent.

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/\thanks for the post kitch-lrt...

I think one of the best things for YKF was getting the daily flight to Calgary. Huge connection, and a big asset. I hate connections, (and it's not great news for YEG when you connect through Calgary or something) but it's easier to fly that and connect to Edmonton then drive to YYZ, park, and fly direct.

I'd like to see passenger numbers at the end of this year and see the differences compared to previous years.

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also... before you vote SSP local Waterloo, here are some thoughts you might want to consider...http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140180

My vote is going to the 'no' to be honest. I like it all in one, or several threads (KW transit, KW development, etc) Local is far to compartmentalized, and leads to a less fluid, organic and diverse conversation in my opinion. People camp in their own and don't venture as much.

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I understand what you guys are saying: enough Class A retail space has already been (or will be) added Uptown that the economics possibly don't warrant more space in the short-term. Generally I agree with you on this.

However, I'm still disappointed retail isn't included, since turning Regina into our second Uptown retail strip (after King) is part of my longer-term vision. There already is some retail on Regina: Generation X, Boardwalk Sport, Paul Puncher, Waterloo Music, etc.. but at the same time there are gaps along the street I'd like to fill in. Unfortunately this building doesn't do that.

I'm all for having increased office space uptown, but if the building is not going to have street-level activity, then there are other locations I'd prefer rather than Regina (or King). An example of a large property I wouldn't mind being developed 100% Office (or Residential), is the parking lot on William behind the Waterloo City Centre.


I totally share your desire for that second retail strip along Regina St., but logically it isn't feasible for the next few years. I think we'll have to be satisfied with the overall buildings going up and not their zoned use. As long as the building is not set back too far from the street and has a decent design, the first floor should easily be converted to retail when the market has a need for it.

That being said, I can't imagine opening a non-generic retail/restaurant business anywhere else in the region other than Uptown Waterloo. Uptown is on a healthy path and it has the energy that the other cores of the region lack. The retail is slow coming because it's specifically targeted to mid-upper end. I also know First Gulf is scrutinizing each business wanting to rent. Apparently they turned down a discount chain hotel, which was noted publicly. I am sure there's many First Gulf have turned down, and I am thankful they have been so active in the development of Uptown and their properties. If we have an over abundance of retail space, landlords will cave to pressure, drop leasing rates, and the core will become full of dollar stores.

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:) Good news for Waterscape. :) Note: both towers are each 12 stories, 115 units and 10,881.44m2. [Cambridgite please update the Rendering Thread and if a mod is reading this please update the SSP database]

Condo project wins city's help
October 30, 2007
KEVIN SWAYZE - RECORD STAFF - CAMBRIDGE

Giving $4.2 million in public money to help build luxury condominiums is hard for Jack Connell to swallow.

"Government has no place in such real estate development for private profit," he said last night as council considered plans for a $120-million Waterscape development by the Grand River at Water and Ainslie streets. "How many other developers will want the same considerations for their developments?"

Uwe Kretchman urged council to halve the public money allocated to help bring the project to reality. He called it "one heck of a sweet deal."

He suggested only the $2.3 million in development charges be waived, and said the city should negotiate harder to reduce what appears to be an $18,000 per unit subsidy for each of the 230 condominiums.

But council stood by its incentives, which encourage developers to foot most of the cost of cleaning up contaminated factory sites, like the former Dobbie textile mill, where 230 condominium units are proposed in two, 12-storey towers.

Coun. Gary Price said if developers don't do the cleanup, the city would have to.

"In the end that would cost us a lot more in tax dollars than what we are doing right here."

Waterscape developer Paul de Haas said the project would not proceed without the financial help from the city.

"This type of site is difficult to develop."

Coun. Pam Wolf didn't like all the public money going to help the project.

"This deal seems a bit one- sided.

Coun. Ben Tucci dismissed Wolf's concerns.

"At the end of the day, if this development falls through, you've got zero (tax) dollars collected on this property."

On one hand, SWEET :) ! It passed! Two 12 storey ones too...not too shabby. I'll update it shortly.

On the other hand, I can see Jack Connell's point. It is public money being spent to essentially put urban projects on a level playing field as suburban ones. "Should taxpayer money be spent on cleaning up brownfield sites?" This could be a great article and great question to post under city discussions or the Canada section.

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Then I don't understand why you voted for "Yes, let's give it a try." in the "SSP:Local Edmonton forum?" link you provided. :shrug:

That was a mistake...:haha: I can't take my vote back.

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On one hand, SWEET :) ! It passed! Two 12 storey ones too...not too shabby. I'll update it shortly.

On the other hand, I can see Jack Connell's point. It is public money being spent to essentially put urban projects on a level playing field as suburban ones. "Should taxpayer money be spent on cleaning up brownfield sites?" This could be a great article and great question to post under city discussions or the Canada section.

I see what your saying, but the second half of the article clears this up in my opinion... essentially, they are investing money with a guaranteed return. If they didn't, they'd be at $0. When you have a sufficiant demand for this type of housing in the Cambridge area, developers are willing to pay the costs of clean-up, etc. so they can build there, but because the demand isn't as strong, they need the incentives that the city is providing. Slippery slope, perhaps. But good economic and intesification sense.

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/\thanks for the post kitch-lrt...

I'd like to see passenger numbers at the end of this year and see the differences compared to previous years.
There was an article in The Record some time ago regarding passenger numbers. Throughout the past few years (when Mesaba started flying here), numbers were around 18,000-24,000 each year. This year, they're predicting around 80,000 passengers (this prediction occured before Bearskin announced service)!!!:cheers: There's a huge demand for Bearskin from YKF. I'm predicting around 90,000 people (NWA, Bearskin, Westjet, plus Skyservice/Sunquest) for 2007.


By any chance, are you kitchenerlrt on the Canadian Public Transportation Discussion Board?


That's me:cool:

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For Immediate Release October 30, 2007

Bearskin Airlines adds additional flights to meet growing demand!
Waterloo Region - Bearskin Airlines announced today the addition of a 4th flight daily on select weekdays beginning Friday, November 23rd to meet the current demand from the community. This announcement comes on the heels of the successful launch of the service between Waterloo Region and Ottawa and the addition of service over the winter holiday break to accommodate the Region's large student population.

"It is great to see that the response to Bearskin's new Ottawa service has been so positive that they are adding an additional daily flight on selected week days to meet demand," said Ken Seiling, Regional Chair. "This will provide greater convenience for all."

On October 1, 2007 Bearskin Airlines launched three round trip flights each business day as well as Sunday service between the Region of Waterloo International Airport (YKF) and Ottawa International Airport (YOW). Up to four hours can be saved on a round-trip flight by using this new nonstop service as compared to the use of Toronto's Pearson terminal and the associated drive to and from Waterloo Region.

Bearskin's decision to enhance service on Monday's and Friday's is directly related to the overwhelming response shown by the community which has resulted in limited availability and a number of sold out flights.

"Our heaviest demand has been from Ottawa to Waterloo Region on Fridays commented Cliff Friesen, Executive Vice President of the airline, " followed by Waterloo to Ottawa on Mondays, so we're adding another flight on these days to alleviate the situation, and make our service even more convenient related to the new time choices."
Following are the details of Bearskin's additional weekday service (Beginning November 23rd):

Kitchener/Waterloo (YKF) to Ottawa (YOW)

Monday to Friday
Dep. 6:45 a.m. / Arr. 7:55 a.m.

Monday to Friday
Dep. 10:00 a.m. / Arr. 11:10 a.m.

Monday & Friday Only
Dep. 1:00 p.m. / Arr. 2:10 p.m.

Sunday to Friday
Dep. 4:30 p.m. / Arr. 5:40 p.m.




Ottawa (YOW) to Kitchener/Waterloo (YKF)

Monday to Friday
Dep. 8:15 a.m. / Arr. 9:25 a.m.

Monday to Friday
Dep. 11:00 a.m. / Arr. 12:10 p.m.

Monday & Friday Only
Dep. 2:40 p.m. / Arr. 3:50 p.m.

Sunday to Friday
Dep. 6:00 p.m. / Arr. 7:10 p.m.




These new flights are currently being offered at fares starting as low as $99 one way plus taxes and surcharges.

Take the hassle out of your business and vacation travel and choose your local alternative! The Region of Waterloo International Airport is easy to navigate with modern amenities including high-speed wireless Internet, complimentary baggage carts and car rentals. No traffic jams or lost vehicles, just convenient and friendly air service.

Let the Bear fly you there in less time than it takes to drive between Waterloo Region and Toronto's Airport. Save time and money and collect Aeroplan points with every flight. For more information, visit www.bearskinairlines.com, call 1-800-465-2327 or ask your local travel agent.



Just a reminder, this is a new announcement, that shouldn't be confused by the other announcement from last week:banana: . I wonder if JAZZ realizes yet that there's a market at YKF.

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City's founding communities focus of winning sculpture
October 30, 2007
KEVIN SWAYZE - RECORD STAFF - CAMBRIDGE

http://news.therecord.com/images/assets/341280_3.JPG
Indigena Domain, Stephen Cruise


Yep, just cause someone threw a snake and a beehive on the ground, it's art. :rolleyes:

What a waste of money. :hell:

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Are you estimating Bearskin to be responsible for 10,000 passengers in the 4th Quarter? If so, is your current 2008 estimate then 120,000? By all measures, YKF is still a baby, but hopefully we can change that in the next 10 years.


Maybe I did shoot too high with my estimates, but the airport's prediction is 80,000 without Bearskin. YKF's probably going to handle around 82,000-85,000 this year (considering Bearskin came in, and also the winter holiday season). I can guarantee that YKF will be a bit busier next month. There's been rumor of Jazz coming in for a few years now, as well as talk of Skybus Airlines.

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I agree, I want Uptown to stay geared towards a higher-end market.

Why? Do you want a bland and inaffordable city? It's stupid that all these restrictions are being put on the uptown core. You're not going to cater to the same diversity of clientele that way. While this may be great for people who like to drink Starbucks coffee and shop at places like Channer's, it's not great for anyone else. The city can decide on zoning, but I'd rather the market decide on retail. Uptown may even be missing out on opportunities because of this elitist picking-and-choosing.

I imagine most people will side with onishenko's and Coun. Ben Tucci's opinion that some money eventually is better than $0 forever, myself included. That said, it would still be interesting to post to see what incentive rates other cities offer. How do the Cambridge/Waterloo Region incentives stack up? Are they below-average? average? or too generous?

No matter what happens, there is a loss to the taxpayer. Because of lax environmental laws at the time these industries moved out, companies could get away with not cleaning up their mess. Now they no longer have any assets to take care of their contamination problems or the head honchos are dead. I wish we could pass the costs onto them, but it's now too late.

So we have two scenarios. Let the site rot, or encourage redevelopment by funding most of the contamination clean-up. In the first case, it's land sitting there, fully serviced, but not collecting taxes, which is an overlooked but CONTINUOUS burden for residents all around the city. In the latter situation, it's a bigger up-front cost for the city to remediate the site, but it removes the burden for tax-payers across the city as a whole IN THE LONG TERM when that property has owners on it who pay taxes for those services.

One of my goals with the new SSP:Local is to try and get info out to companies about Waterloo Region. One of the threads I'd eventually like to set-up is a "Petition Thread" where we email target companies and urge them to set-up a location in this Region, or in this case Airline Flights.

This is a very non-innovative approach to attracting companies. Petitioning simply won't work. Even if it did, it's not like we're desparately looking for investment here anyways. I'd rather places like Kapuskasing and Thunder Bay get these jobs since they need it more.

We had a speaker come into one of my classes last week and his name was Iian Klugman, the leader of Communitech. He tells us that one of the biggest barriers in attracting tech companies to Waterloo Region is the labour shortage (lots of jobs going unfilled). The high-tech sector is actually quite mobile and the people who work in it are highly-skilled and can live pretty much anywhere they want, assuming the jobs are there. So for Waterloo Region, the challenge is making it an interesting city that can compete with the big dogs in places like Silicon Valley and Boston in terms of lifestyle. You may disagree, but I and many others can tell you that Waterloo Region is not competing with these cities in attracting young, excitement-seeking folks in their 20s. What we do excel in, however, is attracting people in their early 30s when they want to live the quiet, boring suburban life and raise kids. So forget petitions, our focus needs to be on lifestyle, particularly in attracting more urban amenities and making KW pretty (sorry, but this city is ass-ugly).

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The following is an e-mail I received from the Region of Waterloo. I think it is time we created this infrastructure thread and started talking about what we want to see changed, regarding transportation in the Region. Please be as specific as possible. I will be attending this presentation and participating. I'd kind of like to discuss these issues with you guys first. Maybe we could organize a meet for this thing on the night of. Until then, we can talk about it on the infrastructure thread. :)

Here it is...

Good Afternoon, The Region of Waterloo is embarking on a new Regional Transportation Master Plan that will plan our future transportation system up to the year 2031. This plan will look at all our modes of transportation from transit to automobile, walking to cycling. Please mark the evening of November 22, 2007 on your calendar. The Regional Transportation Master Plan Kickoff will be an event not to be missed. Keynote speaker Glen Murray will challenge the way you think about "community" and a panel of experts will help us start our communty conversation. Don't miss your chance to provide input on the future of our community! ***Stay tuned for more details on the event and RSVP information.*** The Moving Foward 2031 Team

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Hi all, I have decided to create a thread to discuss transportation and infrastructure matters in the Region of Waterloo. Feel free to discuss matters such as the airport, GRT, LRT, GO, roads, etc.

I have some good material to start us off. The following is an e-mail I received from the Region of Waterloo. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. Please be as specific as possible. Unfortunately, I just realized I have late classes that night, so I won't be able to attend :( . Maybe some of you could speak for me. Hopefully I can reach them by e-mail... Here it is...

Good Afternoon, The Region of Waterloo is embarking on a new Regional Transportation Master Plan that will plan our future transportation system up to the year 2031. This plan will look at all our modes of transportation from transit to automobile, walking to cycling. Please mark the evening of November 22, 2007 on your calendar. The Regional Transportation Master Plan Kickoff will be an event not to be missed. Keynote speaker Glen Murray will challenge the way you think about "community" and a panel of experts will help us start our communty conversation. Don't miss your chance to provide input on the future of our community! ***Stay tuned for more details on the event and RSVP information.*** The Moving Foward 2031 Team