[Harrison]

I liked the idea of a Calgary Future Skyline thread, so I thought Edmonton should have one. If anyone has a good skyline photo, maybe someone could photoshop some proposed, uc, or rumoured projects to see what the outcome would be. Just an idea for us Edmonton forumers.

[Calgarian]

Will the skyline be changing very drastically?

[basilbrush]

I suppose there are some buildings we would like to remove...

[IntotheWest]

^lol!

[newfangled]

I knew that I remembered seeing a Future Edmonton thread around here somewhere. :)

I've done up models of the Icon and Aurora to give some idea what they'll look like. The Icon should be pretty close, but the Aurora needed tons of guesswork and is probably way off.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/200704211.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/200704215.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/200704214.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/200704213.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/200704212.jpg

[Atlguy33]

Awesome work, newfangled!

[SHOFEAR]

very cool. Great job.

What figures did you base the setback of IconI vrs IconII on?

[danby]

wow.. very nice work!

[CMD UW]

Yea, excellent job.

[Paradisio]

hahahaha, very typical "EDMONTONIAN"..... it looks good! hahahaha, it puts Calgarys to shame!!:notacrook:

[Calgarian]

hahahaha, very typical "EDMONTONIAN"..... it looks good! hahahaha, it puts Calgarys to shame!!:notacrook:

:lmao: oh yeah, we pale in comparison. Aurora looks too scattered there, is it really going to be that spread out?

[JAH]

Very good job... hope you keep posting updates here.. lovin your work

[CtrlAltDel]

Nice job! It's great to see some Edmonton stuff for a change, keep it up! :cheers:

[Habanero]

hahahaha, very typical "EDMONTONIAN"..... it looks good! hahahaha, it puts Calgarys to shame!!:notacrook:

wtf ???

[IntotheWest]

Newfangled - excellent work...glad to see you're doing Edmonton's buildings - I've downloaded all of them, and its looking great!

[craner]

Nice Job - keep it rolling.

[CanadianCentaur]

Will the skyline be changing very drastically?

AHAHAHA, knowing Edmonton, I don't think so!

But don't get me wrong I'd like to see that happen, but with the height restrictictions due to YXD and all that...

Newfangled - good work. :D

[Coldrsx]

23-28 x 5 ...um yah it will change Edmonton's skyline kids. People dont realize just how big a development this is.

[mick]

The current developments won't change the traditional skyline shot from the south all that much but aurora, icons, and q will certainly have a dramatic effect on the view from the north.

[Coldrsx]

and west and east...

[newfangled]

@Shotime: The podium and setbacks are all just eye-balled off of the official renderings. The towers themselves should be pretty accurate though, because they're based off of the suite dimensions (although I got kindof lazy on the northwest elevation...but then again, so did the architect)

@johnnyc: That's how spread out it will be. There's another 8-storey midrise in there, and a 17 storey tower that's just across the street that I haven't done yet. But yeah, 6 towers over ~1.5 square blocks.

@IntoTheWest: Thanks. It all started because I was trying to find Murieta's in Calgary in Googleearth, and then suddenly the whole downtown started popping up around me. So thanks for the inspiration.

[Coldrsx]

"@johnnyc: That's how spread out it will be. There's another 8-storey midrise in there, and a 17 storey tower that's just across the street that I haven't done yet. But yeah, 6 towers over ~1.5 square blocks."

i think it is a very good site plan...as it will bring people who might not want "right downtown, tower to tower" type condos.

[craner]

and west and east...

Yeah, I agree - being north of CN they will have a real impact lengthening the skyline from the west and east vistas - much like Arriva, Vetro, etc. is doing in Calgary. I didn't realize the Aurora towers were that tall (23-28), what is the expected timeline for this project?
Once again - good job, keep it up.:tup:

[Coldrsx]

"what is the expected timeline for this project?"

1st tower sales this yr and in the ground i believe...id guess 1-2 towers per yr for 3-4 yrs.

[craner]

"what is the expected timeline for this project?"

1st tower sales this yr and in the ground i believe...id guess 1-2 towers per yr for 3-4 yrs.

awesome - thanks.

[Coldrsx]

^the way the market is...id guess they move much faster with the project. Originally they thought 10yrs...same as century park...id bet <5 now.

[itom 987]

Stationlands should be thrown into the mix!

[rapid_business]

Bringing this thread back to life...

Newfangled have you added buildings to your SketchUp list? Any updated renderings with more of downtown completed?

[wco]

I think CtrlAltDel from the Calgary thread was recently planning on doing a future Edmonton rendering.

[Kevin_foster]

Onishenko Newfangled did do an update recently, pictured here:
http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=11221&highlight=Newf

I love the peter hemmingway center so much...

[Bigtime]

I think CtrlAltDel from the Calgary thread was recently planning on doing a future Edmonton rendering.

He was mentioning that over in the Calgary Future Skyline thread, I'm looking forward to what he comes up with for Edmonton!

[craner]

He was mentioning that over in the Calgary Future Skyline thread, I'm looking forward to what he comes up with for Edmonton!

Me too.:hyper:

[wco]

Me three.

[craner]

:hmmm: :uhh:

[canucklehead2]

I remember seeing a crude what-if? rendering a few years ago that showed what if all the unbuilt Edmonton projects actually were constructed... It looked quite decent... I wonder if we could all collectively work together to develop one... Now that would be something...

[tarapoto]

http://www.ualberta.ca/~cssa/img/greengrassskyline.jpg

Ah it took awhile but I finally threw something together, should look something like this in a few years. Hope this helps everybody!

[Coldrsx]

^ha.... ha..... ha

[rapid_business]

yup. that's par for the course.

[0773|=\]

I guess we now get to speculate as to why Epcor Tower's construction 'halted'.

I guess IPL is once again the primary tennant of the Embridge Tower, and... oh my heavens... the Canada Trust logo mysteriously returned to the Bell Tower, too!

[Atlguy33]

^And it looks like Hall D has been yanked off of SCC.

[Doug_Cgy]

I'd be interested to see what Edmonton would like look with a few of the big Calgary scrapers, and vice versa. I love Manulife Place!!

[Coldrsx]

^nexen please

[240glt]

^ Yup, it's an old building now but it's one of my favorite Calgary towers. So angular.

[canucklehead2]

I'd love to see Edmonton with a Nexen or maybe a Bow Valley Square...

Btw, what software would be the best if one wanted to take on creating a 3-d model of future downtown Edmonton?

[Kevin_foster]

^ I would say google sketchup

You're not going to get professional grade renders or high poly models out of it, but that is not the point. I use sketchup all the time, and it has a relatively easy learning curve (www.google.com/sketchup)

All of the Edmonton 3d buildings featured in Google Earth have been done by Newfangled. Working with Google Earth and Sketchup is awesome.

With sketchup you can also get professional rendering software that renders your models so they are at least presentable... Ill provide some examples in a sec

[Kevin_foster]

For rendering... using sketchup 7 and IDX (free):

1) Before:
http://bayimg.com/image/eapahaabf.jpg

2) After:
http://bayimg.com/image/eapacaabf.jpg
http://bayimg.com/image/eapaeaabf.jpg

3) Conceptual:
http://bayimg.com/image/eapagaabf.jpg

there are also other programs out there (Blender3d (http://www.blender.org/) - which is a Free alternative to the very expensive 3dMax); etc.

Get Google Earth, fire it up, and make sure 3d buildings are on - you will see Newfangleds work there (quite impressive might I add)

[canucklehead2]

Sweet... I have a few skyscraper designs I'd love to see posted on here in relation to the skyline, including an icon for the Edmonton skyline...

[SHOFEAR]

Since it's being discussed, has anybody had to deal with any sort of BIM software like VICO?

The learning curve was very steep, but i would imagine it has capabilities far beyond whats being discussed here.

[rapid_business]

Perhaps Whyte Knight? (sp)?

[bicycles]

any updates on this?

[Calgarian]

I would love to see how dominating the Bow would look in E-town.

[Coldrsx]

^would be ridiculous...

[newfangled]

With models from IntoTheWest (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=438fbb7bd5621a88ac98681e22db25a5&prevstart=0), Kévin GIRARD (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=a4821a76bfce4dc71eae546c3df1a918&prevstart=0), Kévin GIRARD (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=5f23eb890e1e135d1730fd489005b03b&prevstart=0) again, and Densetsu48 (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d3e8d9f8a953b45f628640f3c755d6bf&prevstart=0):

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/20090612%20Crazy%20Skyline/Down.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/20090612%20Crazy%20Skyline/E.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/20090612%20Crazy%20Skyline/NE.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/20090612%20Crazy%20Skyline/NW2.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w69/newfangled2001/20090612%20Crazy%20Skyline/S.jpg

[ue]

That looks so retarded! Thanks for the laugh, newfangled. Although the Bow doesn't look too bad in Edmonton. But man does that Burj look stupid in Edmonton.

[240glt]

That's fun for perspective.... but good god does that look wierd. I think all those respective cities can keep their landmarks.

[RTA]

Y'know, the Bow wouldn't look half bad in our skyline.

This really gives one an idea of just how tall the Burj really is (A: ridiculously).

[Coldrsx]

bahahhahaha awesome

[CMD UW]

Great work, gives you a perspective on our skyline as it relates to other tall buildings in other cities.

[basilbrush]

Should put the Eifel Tower over in Refinery Row. Looks like Petro Canada's been building a mini one there anyway.

[IKAN104]

I like the way the Bow looks in that skyline. I think anything up to twice the height of Manulife would look ok, but higher than that not so much.

[Harrison]

Dubai can keep their Burj Dubai, it just looks ridiculous in Downtown!

[Calgarian]

haha, that's awesome.

[Xelebes]

Dubai can keep their Burj Dubai, it just looks ridiculous in Downtown!

There isn't a block large enough in downtown to fit the Burj so we can be thankful for that.

[Coldrsx]

I like the way the Bow looks in that skyline. I think anything up to twice the height of Manulife would look ok, but higher than that not so much.

concur... the view from the south aint bad.

[canucklehead2]

Are all those buildings really to scale? If so, damn they'd look whacked in our skyline...

[Kevin_foster]

^ Yes, I do believe they are to scale. Bow might be a little short.. it's going to be 236m and manulife is only 146m

[IKAN104]

Looks right to me. Depends on the angle you look at it from.

If the Burj was built in Edmonton, I wonder from how far away on Highway 2 it would be visible.

[oiler-dude]

Looks right to me. Depends on the angle you look at it from.

If the Burj was built in Edmonton, I wonder from how far away on Highway 2 it would be visible.

Calgary? :P

[Chadillaccc]

have nooo idea why no one has posted this yet...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6161/6174489672_2fd8bc031f.jpg
Source:http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5388993

[rapid_business]

Because this thread has been inactive for 2 years.

[CMD UW]

Someone should photoshop the other developments that are proposed in that photo or some other angle. It would be cool to see.

[Atlguy33]

Manu 2 will/would make the skyline look SO much better! Thanks for the post!