BTinSF
Jan 26, 2009, 5:32 AM
:previous: In the city of San Francisco, I think this quote from that article you cited is the issue: "a flurry of investors have bought foreclosed homes and turned them into rentals even as many new condos hitting the market have been switched to apartments, collectively increasing the regional rental stock."
BTinSF
Feb 17, 2009, 9:44 PM
TNDC is currently building 56 units at 149 Mason in partnership with Glide Memorial Church and is preparing to start construction this year on 1400 Mission St., 210 studio apartments in the Civic Center.
Source: http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/02/16/daily10.html
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think 1400 Mission would be the "affordable half" of this project fronting on Mission while the part fronting on Market--1401 Market--is the market rate portion. So if they are going forward with the affordable part, what of the rest?
Gordo
Feb 17, 2009, 10:18 PM
:previous: I'm pretty sure you're right and that's a good question. That big hole is just aching for some action ;)
AndrewK
Feb 18, 2009, 8:06 PM
according to curbed this morning, the lot which spans the entirety of 10th from mission to market was split at jessie and sold as two parcels, one going to nonprofits for construction of 1400 mission and the other going to crescent heights for 1401 market. so the two projects are actually unrelated.
more at the citizen housing link in the curbed article.
BTinSF
Feb 18, 2009, 8:12 PM
according to curbed this morning, the lot which spans the entirety of 10th from mission to market was split at jessie and sold as two parcels, one going to nonprofits for construction of 1400 mission and the other going to crescent heights for 1401 market. so the two projects are actually unrelated.
more at the citizen housing link in the curbed article.
I'm still not sure they are unrelated if, as was suggested a while back, the non-profit half depends on funds from the for-profit half. And I thought they were designed together to relate to one another.
Anyway, here's the Curbed article:
SoMa Swank: Rooftop Soirées Aren't Just for the Rich
http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/2009_02_1400mission.jpg
Following our look at NoPa's upcoming Zygmunt Arendt House, a reader sent in this concept drawing of 1400 Mission, the Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corp's project due to break ground sometime this year. Judging from its napkin-sketch quality, we're betting the design's far from final, but our market-rate condos could probably learn a thing or two from those garden roofs— another swanky vantage point for SoMa's special brand of urban grit! The parcel was sold to the TNDC and Citizens Housing by Bank of America in 2000 for a bargain price of just over $10 million. The new owners subsequently split off the part north of Jessie, to be turned into high-rise condos by Crescent Heights— or, as fate would have it, a rubble-strewn hole. Anyway, we're talking 210 studio apartments just across from The Fin. But we'll miss that parking lot, won't we?
Source: http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2009/02/18/soma_swank_rooftop_soires_arent_just_for_the_rich.php#reader_comments
Here's the original rendering again:
http://www.socketsite.com/10th%20and%20Market.jpg
Source: http://www.socketsite.com/10th%20and%20Market.jpg
I thought that part on the left with the "wings" was the non-profit part, but that sure looks nothing like the new rendering so maybe not. It doesn't seem like both could fit on the available lot though.
AndrewK
Feb 19, 2009, 7:23 PM
im pretty sure the greyed-out building on the far left is the non-profit, as you can see the taller narrow portion of crescent heights slightly set back on the upper right in the sketch.
peanut gallery
Feb 19, 2009, 10:01 PM
I think you might be right Andrew. Like BT, I originally thought this was a redesign for the shorter winged tower, which I always believed to be the BMR portion of the development. But that sure looks like it in the sketch. That's a long block and I think there's room for both. I also believe, however, that it would mean the footprint for Crescent Heights would extend beyond the lot that has already been cleared.
AndrewK
Feb 20, 2009, 7:28 PM
looking closer at the block, it looks like the main tower will go where the big hole in the ground is, and the lowrise portion and smaller tower will go where the northern half of the current parking lot is, above jessie. the non-profit will go on the other half of the parking lot then. that would make it the same length along 10th as 1399, which looks about right.
peanut gallery
Feb 20, 2009, 7:31 PM
That's what I was thinking as well.
SFView
Feb 21, 2009, 6:43 AM
:previous: Yes, that's right. This image may help clarify the relationship between the two sites in question.
From: http://gispub02.sfgov.org/website/nuviewer/permitmap.asp
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/10thMarketMap.jpg
The Crescent Heights site is highlighted in red. The 1400 Mission site is the almost square parking lot just to the south, between Mission and Jessie Sts. Actually, the parking lot now also extends north into the future Crescent Heights site.
Downtown Dave
Feb 21, 2009, 7:45 PM
There was a very large mobile crane being set up on this lot this morning.
peanut gallery
Feb 21, 2009, 8:52 PM
Which end: the hole or the parking lot?
Downtown Dave
Feb 21, 2009, 9:08 PM
The parking lot. I was running errands and so didn't have my camera. There was one very large mobile crane and a second smaller mobile crane.
BTinSF
Feb 21, 2009, 9:46 PM
The parking lot. I was running errands and so didn't have my camera. There was one very large mobile crane and a second smaller mobile crane.
That, of course, is why God put cameras in cell phones. Your pics don't all have to be artwork Dave. ;)
Downtown Dave
Feb 21, 2009, 9:59 PM
Y'know, it didn't even occur to me that I have a camera in my cell phone.... :shrug:
SFView
Feb 22, 2009, 1:04 AM
I don't use my cell phone camera much either, compared with my larger camera.
It looks like the height of 1400 Mission may be close to the height of the lower portion of Crescent Heights. There seems to be hints of either neighboring project in both of the renderings shown respectively in BT's post above. We should probably create a separate thread for 1400 Mission soon after if and when we continue to learn more information regarding it. It now seems that we may see 1400 Mission begin construction well before Crescent Heights is released from being on hold.
AndrewK
Feb 22, 2009, 10:46 AM
at only 15 floors or so i dont think 1400 is going to be tall enough to warrant its own thread.
SFView
Feb 22, 2009, 7:30 PM
Um, maybe you're right.
BTinSF
Mar 9, 2009, 5:46 PM
Timeout On Construction, But Crescent Height's Still Trying
http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/2009_03_crescentheights.jpg
Crescent Heights, the developer of the dainty 720-unit building at 10th and Market, is still out foraging for cash to build, according to a story about the city's comatose construction. The pile of rubble at mid-Market has been just that for months, and will likely stay that way for many more given the housing downturn, but it's actually kind of nice to hear the developer's still alive, no? It's the same story for projects of all sorts here, but it's worse for the larger projects, whose numbers have experienced a "steep drop" at the Planning Department. The projected construction doldrums of the next couple few several years will probably be a disappointment to rebar aficionados, who in sunnier times would otherwise have expected a flood of new housing and businesses to hit newly rezoned areas, including the Market and Octavia and the eastern neighborhoods— alas, it's all slim pickings from here on out.
Source: http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2009/03/09/timeout_on_construction_but_crescent_heights_still_trying.php#reader_comments
tommaso
Oct 15, 2009, 11:26 PM
What is the plan for this site now?
1977
Dec 14, 2010, 8:46 PM
I'm so glad Rescalvo will be redesigning this project as I have never been a fan of Heller/Manus' work. It's looking like we might see some significant groundbreakings in 2011. Fingers crossed!
Crescent Heights is gearing up to start construction on 1,000 San Francisco housing units in 2011, including a $200 million, 750-apartment complex at 10th and Market streets, according to public documents.
In a recent presentation to Planning Department staff, Crescent Heights officials outlined revised plans for a two-tower rental project at 1401 Market St., which had previously been entitled for condominiums.
The developer hopes to start construction in the second quarter of next year and has applied for financing backed by the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development, according to the presentation made to planning officials.
The revised development is being designed by Glenn Rescalvo of Handel Architects, the firm responsible for the Millennium Tower at 301 Mission St. and the Four Seasons on Market Street.
In addition to a new architect and the switch from condos to apartments, Crescent Heights is proposing to build fewer one-bedroom units while raising the number of studios from 265 to 338.
The project is not required to go back before the Planning Commission because the changes are not substantially different from the 2007 site permit for Crescent Heights, according to Planning Director John Rahaim.
“They sound to us like they very much want to move ahead,” said Rahaim. “It would be very positive — it would be nice to see that unsightly site be developed.”
Crescent Heights executives Chaim Elkoby and Bruce Menin did not return a call seeking comment.
In addition to the Market Street project, Crescent Heights recently acquired 45 Lansing St. in Rincon Hill for $13 million. Shortly after buying the property, for which Turnberry Associates had paid $30 million in 2007, the Miami-based developer filed for a building permit for a $75 million, 40-story tower.
Sources familiar with the project say Crescent Heights is hoping to increase the unit count at 45 Lansing from 224 units to 320 units. That change will require Crescent Heights to go back to the Planning Commission, but the developer is still hoping to break ground in 2011.
If approved, 1401 Mission St. would be the largest development to receive funding under HUD Section 221(d)(4), a mortgage insurance program under which the federal government insures construction loans for multifamily apartment buildings.
Two other San Francisco projects have been approved under the program — Martin Building Co.’s 179-unit 2235 Third St., which is under construction, and the Emerald Fund’s 308-unit 333 Harrison, which is expected to be under way by the end of the year.
A HUD spokeswoman confirmed that Crescent Heights had applied for a HUD-insured loan for 1401 Market St. The loan is being arranged by CB Richard Ellis Capital Markets group. It is unknown how much Crescent Heights is seeking to borrow, but the HUD program can guarantee loans for up to 90 percent of construction costs.
The Mid-Market development is one of many projects that went into deep freeze in 2007 when the economic crisis resulted in 25 to 30 percent price reductions in condo prices across San Francisco.
Virtually no new major housing developments broke ground in 2008 or 2009; San Francisco will not see a single new development of more than 100 units delivered in 2011.
Rahaim said the city is seeing a slight uptick in new housing projects, with revenue from applications rising 12 percent from the third quarter 2009 to 2010. The housing blueprints being dusted off are for rental apartments rather than condos.
“It’s a promising sign, but it’s hard to know how much housing will be actually built because it’s not our business to find out which projects actually have financing,” Rahaim said.
Architect Brendan Dunnigan of HKS, who is working on the 45 Lansing design, declined to comment on that project. He said generally housing projects are coming back to life.
“My take is that the supply and demand curves have met, the crossroads is here and housing is a solid investment from where we sit today, barring any double-dip recession,” he said. “Is it jubilation? No. Everything is pretty tempered.”
Read more: Crescent to build 1,000 apartments | San Francisco Business Times
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/print-edition/2010/11/26/crescent-to-build-1000-apartments.html
SFView
Dec 15, 2010, 1:05 AM
An early massing study of 10th & Market by Glenn Rescalvo is up for bid (ending Dec 15, 2010) at the following link:
http://www.biddingforgood.com/auction/item/Browse.action?auctionId=118623600
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/GlennRescalvo10thMarketStudy.jpg
1977
Dec 15, 2010, 3:02 AM
An early massing study of 10th & Market by Glenn Rescalvo is up for bid (ending Dec 15, 2010) at the following link:
http://www.biddingforgood.com/auction/item/Browse.action?auctionId=118623600
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/mrayatsfo/GlennRescalvo10thMarketStudy.jpg
Wow! Good find...thanks.
CyberEric
Dec 15, 2010, 10:00 PM
This sounds promising...that land is such an eyesore. I hope the actual building is less intimidating than that drawing.
pseudolus
Dec 15, 2010, 11:36 PM
George Jetson can hardly wait to move in.
patriotizzy
Dec 16, 2010, 7:49 PM
I love the drawing. Lets hope it ends up with the cool design of the jagged crown and base. Looks pretty cool to me :)
dr_strangelove
Dec 17, 2010, 11:22 PM
I love the drawing. Lets hope it ends up with the cool design of the jagged crown and base. Looks pretty cool to me :)
Handel is a great firm- I am very happy with them in charge.
tommaso
Jun 12, 2011, 9:55 AM
Does anyone in S.F. have any info on this development site?
1977
Jul 20, 2011, 7:51 AM
I found a small rendering (middle building) at www.handelarch.com. Looks promising!
http://www.handelarchitects.com/images/news/2010/12/5.jpg
Source:http://www.handelarchitects.com/news/december-2010.html
San Frangelino
Jul 20, 2011, 3:53 PM
^It looks like a smaller Millennium Tower, but I'll take it over all the other designs.
CyberEric
Jul 21, 2011, 5:10 PM
Looks like a handsome design to me. Thanks for the update.
minesweeper
Jul 21, 2011, 7:37 PM
I haven't seen this tidbit from the SF Business Times a month ago posted, so I created an account to post it:
Strong rental market drives housing recovery (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/print-edition/2011/06/24/strong-rental-market-drives-housing.html?page=all)
by J.K. Dineen
Friday, June 24, 2011
And, Crescent Heights and constructor Swinerton are lining up subcontractors for the 750-unit 1401 Market St., a redesigned twin-tower condo project that was shelved three years ago.
As of about a week ago, there was still no activity at the site. It's depressing to see that hole in the ground every time I go by, but it still sounds like this project is still moving forward.
ElDuderino
Jul 21, 2011, 8:12 PM
Good news. There is definitely a lot of activity in that area recently.
1977
Jul 21, 2011, 9:06 PM
I haven't seen this tidbit from the SF Business Times a month ago posted, so I created an account to post it:
As of about a week ago, there was still no activity at the site. It's depressing to see that hole in the ground every time I go by, but it still sounds like this project is still moving forward.
Welcome, minesweeper! Thanks for the info.
FYI, I walked by the site yesterday and saw one backhoe onsite. It didn't really look like much though - just one tractor moving some dirt. I wouldn't consider this a groundbreaking but there was some minor activity. Has anyone been by there today?
1977
Jul 21, 2011, 9:21 PM
Speak of the Devil...
http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2011/07/21/midmarket_ok_whats_going_on_here.php#more
CyberEric
Jul 26, 2011, 6:58 PM
All sounds like positive stuff to me. Thanks for the updates.
minesweeper
Aug 3, 2011, 9:12 PM
Looking at the site today, the backhoe is gone and everything is quiet.
Here's a new story about the rat problem at the site. Hopefully this gets construction started sooner rather than later:
As Twitter Moves In, Rats May Finally Be Stamped Out (http://www.baycitizen.org/columns/scott-james/twitter-moves-rats-may-finally-be-out/)
Empty lot next to company's new headquarters has long been infested with rodents
As Twitter, one of the world’s leading social media companies, prepares to move into its new headquarters in San Francisco’s mid-Market district, it has some unsavory new neighbors: rats.
The company plans to relocate its offices into the historic San Francisco Mart building on Market between Ninth and 10th Streets by next June. The highly publicized move has proven to be a magnet for other development to the downtrodden area.
But at 1411 Market St., right next to Twitter’s new building, is a crater-sized rat hole that the city’s health department has labeled a “vector” for vermin. Debris on the site — crumbling concrete from a razed former structure — has become an inviting habitat for the rodents.
Source: The Bay Citizen (http://s.tt/12VGf)
minesweeper
Sep 5, 2011, 4:17 PM
The site is still an empty crater, but here are the latest shreds of news:
SF Business Times, 9/1/2011:
Meanwhile there is little evidence suggesting that other big projects, like Crescent Heights 700-unit development at 10th and Market, are close to beginning.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2011/09/showtime-for-gerding-elden-sutter-st.html
SF Examiner, 9/4/2011:
Nearly half of those new housing units are planned for an apartment tower across the street from the new Twitter headquarters. Having served as the dormant symbol of the housing crash for three years, the building site — owned by Miami-based developer Crescent Heights — remains little more than a hole in the ground. But plans are moving forward again according to the company’s development manager, Casey Klein.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2011/09/twitter-effect-takes-hold-san-francisco-s-mid-market-area
Thanks for the update minesweeper. I really hope this breaks ground by the end of the year - it's such an eyesore.
CyberEric
Sep 7, 2011, 6:24 PM
Thanks for the update minesweeper. I really hope this breaks ground by the end of the year - it's such an eyesore.
Ditto. Thanks for the updates.
Gordo
Nov 1, 2011, 1:02 AM
Looks like this is finally going to start!
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2011/10/work-to-start-tomorrow-on-750-units-in.html?ana=RSS&s=article_search&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bizj_sanfrancisco+%28San+Francisco+Business+Times%29
CyberEric
Nov 1, 2011, 1:20 AM
This is fantastic news!!!
And a new rendering thanks to desertpunk over at SSC:
http://crescentheights.mobi/images/properties/10th_and_market1.jpg
Source: http://crescentheights.mobi/properties.html
Gordo
Nov 1, 2011, 7:23 PM
I think that this is probably the most important project to break ground since 2008.
Trinity is nice too, but because it's being phased it won't have the same effect as this single project with 750 units.
Jerry will get some nice views of construction from Fox Plaza, so we expect pics :)
San Frangelino
Nov 1, 2011, 7:42 PM
Excellent news! Thanks for sharing that rendering 1977. Hopefully it will make a positive change for things along that part of Market St.
It will be great to look south from Polk St and have the view lead right into the tower.
CyberEric
Nov 1, 2011, 8:16 PM
I think that this is probably the most important project to break ground since 2008.
Trinity is nice too, but because it's being phased it won't have the same effect as this single project with 750 units.
Jerry will get some nice views of construction from Fox Plaza, so we expect pics :)
I completely agree about the importance.
That rendering looks great, much better than the others.
I do wish the new building covered more of the bare wall on that neighboring building though, but I shouldn't pick nits.
pseudolus
Nov 1, 2011, 11:13 PM
And a new rendering thanks to desertpunk over at SSC:
http://crescentheights.mobi/images/properties/10th_and_market1.jpg
Source: http://crescentheights.mobi/properties.html
Good news, but this render surprised me a little. Somehow I got it in my head that this extended all the way to Mission Street, but I guess not.
A larger and clearer rendering of the north side of the project:
http://www.socketsite.com/1401%20Market%202011.jpg
Source: www.socketsite.com
Somehow I got it in my head that this extended all the way to Mission Street, but I guess not.
There is another project proposed for that parcel (1400 Mission and Tenth).
Here is an older rendering:
http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/2009_02_1400mission.jpg
Source: sf.curbed.com
I'm not sure where this project stands at the moment but here (http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2009/02/18/soma_swank_rooftop_soires_arent_just_for_the_rich.php) is a short write up from SF Curbed.
CyberEric
Nov 2, 2011, 2:26 AM
Thanks 1977, this looks quite a bit better than the old renderings.
minesweeper
Nov 2, 2011, 2:29 AM
It's great to hear that this one is finally going to start. I was starting to worry that it was never going get built.
fflint
Nov 5, 2011, 3:20 AM
Love the new renderings. 10th and Market will, if built, be the big deal of 2012. It's huge--750 new apartments on less than one full block. It's smart, utilizing Van Ness Station underground and the best-served intersection for streetcar and bus travel in the city. It's also changing the nature of the cityscape, removing one of the last two empty lots on Mid-Market and firmly cementing the Polk/Market/10th junction as a mixed-use, high-density residential neighborhood. It's a westward expansion of the high-rise core, so it will be visible from the north, west and south.
I like the skin and the form overall. It looks better than the prior set of renderings, IMO, but I do have one small critique--it would be way cooler if the full tower fronted Market Street. The setback robs us of a new peak along the Market Street canyon. But overall, it's a tremendous improvement.
fflint
Nov 5, 2011, 3:30 AM
Oh, and a couple points of snark on the twilight rendering:
*Marin in 2012 boasts snow-capped mountains
*All the floors on Fox Plaza are identical in height and appear to have been converted to offices
northbay
Nov 5, 2011, 3:46 AM
nice redesign. good eye fflint!
peanut gallery
Nov 6, 2011, 12:20 AM
I like the skin and the form overall. It looks better than the prior set of renderings, IMO, but I do have one small critique--it would be way cooler if the full tower fronted Market Street. The setback robs us of a new peak along the Market Street canyon. But overall, it's a tremendous improvement.
Something else the setback does is create an open space on the corner. I hope they have a good layout and design for that area so it becomes appealing and useful, not deserted and wasted.
I'm incredibly excited to see this actually starting. It's been a long wait with many rumors of imminent work. Same architect as Millennium, no? Sure has a similar feel.
CyberEric
Nov 7, 2011, 10:54 PM
Has work begun on the site? It sure looks like it. Should we move this to Under Construction yet?
peanut gallery
Nov 7, 2011, 11:47 PM
Projects aren't considered officially under construction on SSP until something permanent is built, like foundation work (piles driven or rebar installed). Site clearing, excavation, shoring, etc aren't enough to move it to the construction section.
Another rendering and some more info from www.handelarchitects.com:
http://www.handelarchitects.com/images/projects/location/san-francisco/10th-market/3.jpg
Source: www.handelarchitects.com
Located at the corner of 10th and Market Streets adjacent to the San Francisco Civic Center district, this residential rental complex will create one of the densest developments in the city at 754 units. The 9-, 12-, 22-, and 35- story towers contain mostly studios, one bedroom and two bedroom apartments. The towers are unified at the base with a podium that houses two residential lobbies, common areas, and retail fronting both Market and 10th streets. The 30,000 sf of amenity space includes a fitness center, swimming pool, fire pit, and billiards room. There are three landscaped terraces - on the 3rd, 11th, and 24th floors - as well as private terraces for units located on those three floors.
Meant to infuse a young urban vibe into the neighborhood, the design is modem and technology-driven. The main 37-story tower was conceived to be a pinnacle at the intersection of five arteries. The shape has a sleek design featuring a state-of-the art integral glass curtain wall system with metal panel stripes, extending into the skyline with angular shards. The well-orchestrated facades, while aesthetically dynamic, create a desirable interior environment by optimizing the balance between heating load, cooling load and natural day-lighting.
The project is anticipated to be LEED Certified by the U.S. Green Building Council.
CyberEric
Nov 8, 2011, 5:05 PM
Looks good, thanks. I hope to see some renderings that aren't so dark so we can see it better. Will it always be dusk in the future? :)
peanut gallery
Nov 8, 2011, 5:54 PM
Ha! It sure seems that way, doesn't it?
CyberEric
Nov 12, 2011, 8:24 AM
Walked by the site tonight, looks like a lot of digging has already been going on. Glad to see this is hitting the ground running!
1977
Nov 12, 2011, 4:42 PM
Walked by the site tonight, looks like a lot of digging has already been going on. Glad to see this is hitting the ground running!
Great news! Thanks for the update.
CyberEric
Nov 13, 2011, 6:54 AM
I know! I ended up taking the F train today and noticed they had a pile driver (Think that's what they are called) on site too.
northbay
Nov 15, 2011, 4:09 PM
they're starting?! great news!!!
I know! I ended up taking the F train today and noticed they had a pile driver (Think that's what they are called) on site too.
taking the 'f train' and 'pile driver' should never be used in the same sentence :haha:
minesweeper
Jan 30, 2012, 9:50 PM
Lots of excavation work is continuing at the site. Too bad we haven't had an update here in 2 months!
Over the weekend, I noticed a giant portable crane parked on 10th Street assisting in building a larger on-site crane. It's being set up near the corner of 10th and Market. Hopefully someone gets a chance to add some photos.
peanut gallery
Jan 31, 2012, 12:30 AM
Thanks for the reminder. I keep forgetting this has gotten started and haven't headed that far down Market in awhile. I'll check it out later this week and try to take some photos.
CyberEric
Jan 31, 2012, 7:34 PM
Yeah I can see the crane from Duboce park, something is definitely happening on this site.
Reminiscence
Feb 1, 2012, 8:24 AM
I feel as if I haven't posted pictures in ages. I was walking in the area the other day and saw to it to use my new iPhone's powerful camera to snag this one. Looks like the foundation is well underway.
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9388/img0191ap.jpg
peanut gallery
Feb 1, 2012, 5:38 PM
Sure does! Time to move this to the Construction forum. They didn't go down very far. I take it that's because there will be minimal subterranean parking here? I haven't noticed anything about parking mentioned for this project. Given the location, I hope that's the case. Also just realized the Biz Times report says this will be 37 stories, not 35 like it says in the thread title. Does anyone know if the 352 figure is still correct?
CyberEric
Feb 1, 2012, 5:52 PM
Yep, move this to construction!
Interesting about the number change on the number of stories.
Gordo
Feb 1, 2012, 6:08 PM
That is really shallow - I don't remember seeing the parking stats for this one. Did this one maybe have some kind of waiver like Soma Grand where above grade parking is allowed? I hope not.
peanut gallery
Feb 1, 2012, 6:14 PM
Not sure. I tried searching the Planning website for the meeting notes when this was approved, but not knowing the date made that pretty hard.
Just a guess, but the majority of the parking might be located more to the south as that is where the entrance from 10th will be. Yeah? Maybe?
Regardless, I'm happy to see this moving forward -- what a huge boon for the neighborhood and Market St.
Dylan Leblanc
Feb 1, 2012, 9:08 PM
Hi guys, can anyone tell me, for the purposes of the database entry for this project, is it the north tower or the south that that's now under construction?
Hi guys, can anyone tell me, for the purposes of the database entry for this project, is it the north tower or the south that that's now under construction?
Both towers are under construction.
The 10th and Market project will be built all at once, rather than phased, and will be the largest new housing development in San Francisco since the recession started in 2008.
Source: www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco
Gordo
Feb 1, 2012, 9:44 PM
Just a guess, but the majority of the parking might be located more to the south as that is where the entrance from 10th will be. Yeah? Maybe?
Regardless, I'm happy to see this moving forward -- what a huge boon for the neighborhood and Market St.
Ah, that could be.
And yes, I'm very, very happy to see this moving forward. This is more important than Trinity, IMO (I think I've already said that in this thread once or twice :))
1977
Feb 1, 2012, 10:06 PM
:previous: Agreed. I'm more excited about the Market Street side of Trinity.
Btw, thanks for the photo Reminiscence!
Reminiscence
Feb 1, 2012, 11:07 PM
:previous: Agreed. I'm more excited about the Market Street side of Trinity.
Btw, thanks for the photo Reminiscence!
You're quite welcome! Looks like I may be around the area more frequently to check up on some of the places on or around Market. I'm excited to watch this one go up!
I've seen both 35 and 37 stories for it. Is it possible that 35 stories is the amount for residential and the remaining 2 stories are just mechanical or other use? I remember we had a similar issue and discussion regarding this on One Rincon :)
minesweeper
Feb 2, 2012, 6:23 AM
:previous: Agreed. I'm more excited about the Market Street side of Trinity.
Btw, thanks for the photo Reminiscence!
Agreed, thanks for the photo and helping get this moved to the Construction Forum.
I didn't realize they were already pouring the foundation. I thought they were still just excavating. I'm looking forward to seeing this one rising above ground soon.
fflint
Feb 2, 2012, 7:08 AM
I'm pretty sure I saw the crane for this project from way out at SF General Hospital today.
Jerry of San Fran
Feb 2, 2012, 8:28 AM
A view from my balcony last Saturday. The smaller crane is installing the taller construction crane. 10th street was partially blocked for 2 days. Coincidentally 10th & Market was partially closed the same day as a large crane was brought in to delivery the airconditioning equipment for Market Square across the street from the 10th & Market development. I can only see the arm of the big crane when it is turned east.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7169/6805705139_ec8bafeedb_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6805705139/)
10th & Market - January 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6805705139/)
Reminiscence
Feb 4, 2012, 12:12 AM
Walked by again today, and I can confirm fflint's good eye. The crane is up on site:
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2969/img0192zr.jpg
Here are some other pictures showing the week's progression on the foundation:
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2402/img0199yg.jpg
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1295/img0201hh.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/2553/img0198tn.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7720/img0197ic.jpg
San Frangelino
Feb 4, 2012, 12:17 AM
YIPPEE!!!!! Looking forward to watching this one rise up. It'll be great to finally see a new addition to the Civic Center Skyline. One that's over 300 ft.
1977
Feb 4, 2012, 12:28 AM
Awesome! Thanks Jerry of San Fran and Reminiscence.
peanut gallery
Feb 4, 2012, 1:09 AM
Great shots, Rem! I can see it's a little deeper than I first thought -- perhaps enough room for two levels of underground parking. I can't believe how fast they've gotten that foundation in. I guess a lot of the excavation was taken care of with the previous building's demo years ago, but still.
Hey Jerry, perhaps you should build some kind of boom for photographing the site. I'd hate to see you slip while leaning out over your balcony for a shot! :)
CyberEric
Feb 6, 2012, 7:32 PM
Wow, there are moving quickly. Thanks for the shots.
wakamesalad
Feb 7, 2012, 4:22 AM
:banana: San Francisco's on a roll!
Trinity and Crescent Heights will make this area very dense in the near future. After the construction bust of the past 3 years we are finally back in the game. I suspect 535 Mission will rise shortly.
peanut gallery
Feb 7, 2012, 4:59 AM
^And there's always 55 Ninth St (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2011/06/55_9th_street_as_approved_for_17_stories_34_trees_for_n.html) right between those two that might get started before long. BTW, welcome to the forum!
Jerry of San Fran
Feb 7, 2012, 9:16 AM
Peanut Gallery - Your comment got a big chuckle from me. I do make sure I'm secure when I lean over to take my pictures. It is frustrating to not be able to see the whole site. I need to make a friend of someone on the south end of the Fox Plaza!
Reminicense - great pictues - the site is often a challenge to photograph because of the shadows.
flight_from_kamakura
Feb 11, 2012, 10:48 PM
great shots. honestly, there's not a residential building i'm more excited about in the city (not that there's much else going on).
wakamesalad
Feb 13, 2012, 12:29 AM
Can we update the title post with the new renderings please?
Reminiscence
Feb 13, 2012, 8:46 AM
Thanks guys! The site is pretty challenging as Jerry said, I tried to get a decent amount of light in each shot to capture as much detail as possible. The rate they're going, it won't be long before this one is out of the ground! I'll probably stop by this week to check up on it.
minesweeper
Feb 15, 2012, 2:26 AM
Thanks for the great photos everyone. They're making some really good progress with the foundations.
I was taking the bus home late in the evening (around 9pm) last week and saw lots of flood lights on and a handful of workers still moving around the site. It seems like they're really trying to expedite construction here.
I walked up 10th street this morning, b/c they've had 3 of 4 traffic lanes shut down all weekend, so I figured they must up to something. They are installing a 2nd construction crane, middle of the block, possibly slightly closer to Mission than Market. Also, looks like they have poured the foundation, but only where the rebar was laid from the last pics. Around that area, they dug a bunch deeper but haven't done anything else yet.
flight_from_kamakura
Mar 8, 2012, 7:37 PM
the second crane is up and operational, rebar is coming up (a few columns above grade at the market st frontage). this thing is going go be a monster!
There is now a second area of heavy rebar activity, around mid-block of 10th street. interestingly, in between the two rebar areas, they still appear to be digging down. I wonder if that is where the garage will be located. Either way, this project is really progressing quickly.
viewguysf
Mar 18, 2012, 8:22 PM
I'm really looking forward to this complex being completed, but I wish that the Market Street building were going to be taller. They're cramming a lot of short residential floors into it and someone posted previously that the rental apartments will be a rather pedestrian product. Let's just hope that the buildings are attractive and look as good or better than the renderings. That certainly was not the case with Argenta across the street that was dumbed down/VE's twice.
1977
Mar 27, 2012, 4:54 PM
Nice shot of a night pour from sf.curbed via Flickr:
http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/6872637648_dc2cc3c610_b.jpg
Source: sf.curbed.com
viewguysf
Mar 27, 2012, 5:08 PM
Wow--it looks sci-fi! Thanks for sharing it.
Gordo
Mar 27, 2012, 5:38 PM
^There's a gigantic mechanical daddy long legs crawling out of that hole! Run!
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