[1ajs]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2573928509_f5e2e704b4_o.jpg

[Keng]

Here's yet another photo of Winnipeg's skyline from everyone's favorite garbage Hill...

Cropped Pano

http://kengillespie.com/img/v2/p566785267-4.jpg

[Boreal]

Gorgeous photos guys.

[Archiseek]

Out of the corner of my eye this morning, the scaffolding is down on the Edmonton Street side of the podium, and I think cladding is visible.

[newflyer]

Out of the corner of my eye this morning, the scaffolding is down on the Edmonton Street side of the podium, and I think cladding is visible.

Pictures??

[Archiseek]

Shady side of the building this morning

http://www.archiseek.com/gifs/hydrostone1.jpg

http://www.archiseek.com/gifs/hydrostone3.jpg

http://www.archiseek.com/gifs/hydrostone2.jpg

[Tower Crane]

I returned to the Peg to visit family and friends and of course take in new construction. On one hand the Hydro tower is impressive and a great building, on the hand when getting one new tower ever twenty years or so the building falls way short on the wow factor.
Add 8 to 10 stories and then it would be wow. As it is now while driving around Winnipeg depending on the street you were on it got lost behind other buildings.
The building itself I give a 9 out of 10 on.
The wow factor and lack of height ( and the chimney does not count ) I give a 2 out of 10 on.
It could have been a staggered tower with one side rising to 30 floors.
The consultants missed the mark ( by about 10 floors ) with this deign.

[Biff]

...they are currently putting glazing on the upper steel structure of the solar chimney. It is clear glass that will show the interior of the chimney (the black solar panel thingy). Looks like it will be an excellent candidate for an amazing lighting scheme if done properly.

[Only The Lonely..]

lack of height ( and the chimney does not count ) I give a 2 out of 10 on.
It could have been a staggered tower with one side rising to 30 floors.
The consultants missed the mark ( by about 10 floors ) with this deign.


Agreed.

I would have liked for one side to have been only 10 floors, and then to take the remaining 13 floors and put it on top of the other half of the building.

Thus we woulda had a staggered building, with the first half being 10 floors and the other side being 30.

It certainly would have been more dramatic had KPMB done it that way.

[drew]

^ I think the floor plate size and height of the building had more to do with building efficiencies rather than simply building tall.

[flatlander]

^ I think the floor plate size and height of the building had more to do with building efficiencies rather than simply building tall.

I think you're right.

And what's so bad about actually taking up a large footprint, when there's more than enough land to go around downtown? Street level activity is more important to me than height although I realize what page i'm posting on ...

[trueviking]

it was a requirement of hydro to have 40 000 square foot floors....twice what is typically found in an office tower (richardson is something like 13 000)....you cant blame KPMB...it was hydro's call.

adrian, which photo did they buy off you?

[newflyer]

:previous:

Adrian ... congrats on selling one of your pics.

I am a huge fan of your picture posts. :tup:

[newflyer]

Here's yet another photo of Winnipeg's skyline from everyone's favorite garbage Hill...

Cropped Pano

http://kengillespie.com/img/v2/p566785267-4.jpg

I love the pics from Westhill Park. ;) The Hydro Tower is a nice addition to the skyline.

[newflyer]

Any pics of the siding going up on the solar chimney?

[1ajs]

looking at the web cam its higher up so tomorrow i will see if i can get some installation shots
couple days ago
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2323/2654269923_39973592c1_o.jpg

[1ajs]

.... u asked newflyer heres tonight tomarow i shall get out and see if i get lucky on the glass installation....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/2665924409_0b18b9a515_o.jpg

[Jolly]

Well, the crane is coming down. Could be a while before we see another one...

[Greco Roman]

Well, the crane is coming down. Could be a while before we see another one...

If indeed you frequent NewWinnipeg, then I have figured out who you are on that forum ;)

[Jolly]

Sorry. Dunno what yer talkin' 'bout.

Though of course we'll see another crane when the HRM goes up.

Albeit not quite as high....

[Jolly]

BTW, I left Calgary in '95 to go to grad school. I remember driving down 9th ave and seeing the first crane in a long while going up to put up a parking garage not so far from the former location of Cowboys. Yee haw...

[newflyer]

Sorry. Dunno what yer talkin' 'bout.

Though of course we'll see another crane when the HRM goes up.

Albeit not quite as high....

True ... I would also wouldn't be surprised if a highrise condo is announced for the downtown at some point.... in the not too distant future. :yes:


Of course Winnipeg saw to it that 2 perfectly viable highrise projects were killed off... 100 Main and Henderson Hwy. It not that people aren't proposing highrise projects.. :rolleyes:

[newflyer]

Im am definately looking forward to taking a good look at the new Hydro tower once its complete.

[The Jabroni]

From that latest image capture of the Hydro cam, the crane is just sitting there halfway through with the whole thing still up.

[1ajs]

boom comes down tomarow around noon

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3152/2683861821_af9bb34252_o.jpg


looks kinda funny looking from old market square :P

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2684761818_cb7068b667_o.jpg

[The Jabroni]

Interesting point of view, especially with the fish-eye lens!

...and yes, it does look funny from the Exchange!

[1ajs]

and we still have a crane tonight
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3116/2687531281_fd0d639a12_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2688376938_1fb6b4569d_o.jpg

[The Jabroni]

Well, the webcam shows that the boom is now gone. The Telescopic crane is still shown there though.

[Tower Crane]

All right the Hydro Tower shell and core are done. Party Hard and enjoy it.........then start the 20 year countdown until the next highrise Office Tower gets constructed....or 175,200 hours.

[1ajs]

prity much costmecis on the shell now... the core has alot of stuff still to go in..............

[Greco Roman]

All right the Hydro Tower shell and core are done. Party Hard and enjoy it.........then start the 20 year countdown until the next highrise Office Tower gets constructed....or 175,200 hours.

Let me guess; you are related to Markus41, right?

You know, you guys really get a kick out of mocking Winnipeg don't you?

[dennis]

^Yes! I agree! Go pick on Hamilton or Quebec City for once. Leave us alone.

[bomberguy]

All right the Hydro Tower shell and core are done. Party Hard and enjoy it.........then start the 20 year countdown until the next highrise Office Tower gets constructed....or 175,200 hours.

Get the fuck outta here.

[RAFS]

......Party Hard and enjoy it.........
Thank you! We will party hard!

[trueviking]

All right the Hydro Tower shell and core are done. Party Hard and enjoy it.........then start the 20 year countdown until the next highrise Office Tower gets constructed....or 175,200 hours.

its a good thing that the quality of a city has nothing to do with the number of office towers it has...in fact, with a few notable exceptions, the inverse is true.


i guess the next two taller buildings to look forward to: 200' HSC hotel and the 320' CMHR.

[1ajs]

and posibly one just off henderson or yea think they will be back?

[The Jabroni]

its a good thing that the quality of a city has nothing to do with the number of office towers it has...in fact, with a few notable exceptions, the inverse is true.


i guess the next two taller buildings to look forward to: 200' HSC hotel and the 320' CMHR.

It's too bad the trolls focus on the erection, and not the use of the surroundings. :shrug:

[Only The Lonely..]

and posibly one just off henderson or yea think they will be back?

I'm sure the NK proposal is still kicking around.

There's a less than 1% rental vacancy rate right now, and that cluster of commie blocks is always popular with the seniors.

I suspect that we will hear more about it in the fall.

[1ajs]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2702274243_7f1e437c64_o.jpg

[nordique]

its killing me that there is only one visible person in that wide angled photo above. i just came back from a week in chicago this morning, and needless to say i was overstimulated beyond belief.

super great shot though, i love the earth toned hues.

also, are they going to put a giant mb hydro logo on that solar wall or anything?

[The Jabroni]

It's interesting how the whole skeleton structure is made out of concrete, and not by steel. Are buildings these days going the way of concrete or is it just the way this building was designed that dictated the use of such materials?

[1ajs]

its killing me that there is only one visible person in that wide angled photo above. i just came back from a week in chicago this morning, and needless to say i was overstimulated beyond belief.

super great shot though, i love the earth toned hues.

also, are they going to put a giant mb hydro logo on that solar wall or anything?

thats cause everyones at old market squre there more people in the shot just hard to make out behind that crazy fence they have up at the kinds head padio

but the other problem is theres nothing open around there after 5ish witch is stupid we need a 24 hour shop......... one on broadway and one say on king st...

[1ajs]

It's interesting how the whole skeleton structure is made out of concrete, and not by steel. Are buildings these days going the way of concrete or is it just the way this building was designed that dictated the use of such materials?
more energy effient to cool and heat a concreat stucture from what i understand steel acts like a heat stink...

[newflyer]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2702274243_7f1e437c64_o.jpg

Another Great shot!!!

I think the Hydro Tower looks even bigger from a distance, as it gives you a sence of the scale of its floor plate. Its big .. thats for sure.

Those close up shots don't do it justice.

[newflyer]

All right the Hydro Tower shell and core are done. Party Hard and enjoy it.........then start the 20 year countdown until the next highrise Office Tower gets constructed....or 175,200 hours.

You're not that bright ... but I am sure I am far from the only one to pass that bit of info on to you. Perhaps it will take you 175,200 hours before you evolve beyond 60 IQ.

I expect to see additions to Winnipeg's skyline in the coming year.

[Boreal]

Adrian - I think an amazing shot (of downtown in general, but certainly including Hydro) can be found standing near Colony and Portage looking South East. Get a wonderful combination of old and new and it all looks rather imposing - One Canada Place, HBC, Hydro, Newport, etc.

[drew]

It's interesting how the whole skeleton structure is made out of concrete, and not by steel. Are buildings these days going the way of concrete or is it just the way this building was designed that dictated the use of such materials?

I think most larger buildings of note in Winnipeg are constructed using reinforced concrete and not steel.

Typically it comes down to economics. Concrete is available locally, rebar is cheap, and there are plenty of local companies experienced tying rebar and building with concrete.

Steel (for larger projects anyway) is expensive, and the large sections required for high rises and larger buildings generally cannot be sourced locally.

As for Hydro, as 1ajs mentioned, concrete provides better heat sink and insulation properties when compared to steel. It is also inherently non-combustible.

[newflyer]

Adrian - I think an amazing shot (of downtown in general, but certainly including Hydro) can be found standing near Colony and Portage looking South East. Get a wonderful combination of old and new and it all looks rather imposing - One Canada Place, HBC, Hydro, Newport, etc.

Please share. :yes:

[Boreal]

All I own (or know how to operate for that matter) is a point and shoot. I don't have the photo on hand, I actually just drove that not 45 minutes ago. I was really impressed as I rarely get on to Memorial from that direction. I also took Ellice all the way in to downtown and Hydro dominates the skyline. As well, I find it looks modestly profound coming over the bridge (forget the name) on Lagimodiere, just south of Regent.

[nordique]

I also took Ellice all the way in to downtown and Hydro dominates the skyline.

i did this too today. it's gonna take a while to get used to seeing that giant fin everywhere i go.

[Jeff]

i love this angle!
http://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v275/204/94/509981422/n509981422_1089929_4674.jpg

[trueviking]

it will be funny to see the hydro building completely dark on every second "hydro monday"...especially during the winter when night comes early....

[1ajs]

it will be funny to see the hydro building completely dark on every second "hydro monday"...especially during the winter when night comes early....
:hmmm:

picture a minus 40 night with no clouds and a full moon

[1ajs]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2717667037_04060bf5cd_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/2717689493_edd5d4de4f_o.jpg

http://www.hydro.mb.ca/webcam/MedArt_512.jpg

[Brokenhead]

They have a dog watching the site?

[1ajs]

apears they do now its a new sign

[Andy6]

apears they do now its a new sign

Apparently some kid with a bike and camera has been hanging around the site almost 24 hours a day, looking like he's desperate to get in. Hence the dog.

[IntotheWest]

1ajs - thanks for posting all these shots...some real good ones in there (of Hydro and Winnipeg dt in general).

[Jimbo]

Apparently some kid with a bike and camera has been hanging around the site almost 24 hours a day, looking like he's desperate to get in. Hence the dog.


LOL, funny man you are.

[1ajs]

LOL, funny man you are.
indeed he is :tup:

[1ajs]

1ajs - thanks for posting all these shots...some real good ones in there (of Hydro and Winnipeg dt in general).
txs :cool:

[Boreal]

I see the beware of dog sign, but I'm pretty sure that styrofoam rottweiler infront of Portage Place isn't THAT MUCH of a threat. Nonetheless, I'm glad to see we are airing on the side of caution. :)

[bimbamboom]

Just wondering if the solar chimney is going to be covered with tiles. Leaving it with concrete exposed looks too ugly.

[1ajs]

no it will be coverd over with metal panels

[Brokenhead]

Here's Manitoba Hydro from the East side of the Perimeter.

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7198/resizeoframdona006hq1.jpg


Sorry about the large image, I would upload a smaller one - but image shack is really pissing me off.

[Spocket]

^That's a great shot but it looks like it was taken from around the Perimeter and Brookside no ?

[Biff]

That picture really shows off that our downtown area is much too large for a city our size. It would look much better and definitely more manageable if it were smaller and more compact.

[Brokenhead]

^That's a great shot but it looks like it was taken from around the Perimeter and Brookside no ?

Maybe, can't remember exactly where.

[Archiseek]

Hydro in the sunshine 20mins ago

http://www.archiseek.com/gifs/hydro.jpg

http://www.archiseek.com/gifs/hydro2.jpg

http://www.archiseek.com/gifs/hydro3.jpg

[1ajs]

whats with the missing pains of glass and that weird metal thing on the atrium glas or does anyone know?

[Rotary]

That picture really shows off that our downtown area is much too large for a city our size. It would look much better and definitely more manageable if it were smaller and more compact.Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.

And that Hydro Building...yuck.

[trueviking]

Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.

And that Hydro Building...yuck.

actually, i will challenge you to find a city of 3/4 of a million people with a larger skyline anywhere in north america....i'll even let you go up to a million people, if you want...

i'll even help...here are all the cities in NA between 600k and 1m...google any one ithat you would like.

this link has images of most....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_metropolitan_statistical_areas_by_population

Tucson AZ
Tulsa, OK
Honolulu, HI
Fresno CA
Bridgeport CT
Albany NY
New Haven CT
Dayton, OH
Albuquerque NM
Omaha NE
Allentown PA
Ventura CA
Bakersfield, CA
Worcester MA
Grand Rapids MI
Baton Rouge, LA
El Paso, TX
Columbia, SC
McAllen TX
Akron OH
Greensboro NC
Sarasota FL
Springfield, MA
Knoxville, TN
Stockton, CA
Poughkeepsie NY
Little Rock AR
Toledo, OH
Syracuse, NY
Charleston SC
Greenville SC
Colorado Springs CO

Hamilton, ON
Quebec City PQ


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6002/winnipegskylinewh2uc7.jpg

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6080/winnipegskylinewh4qm6.jpg

[trueviking]

i'll even post a bunch for you:

tulsa
http://www.law.utulsa.edu/admissions/tulsa/sunset.jpg
honolulu
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Downtown_Honolulu.jpg/800px-Downtown_Honolulu.jpg
albany
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/968608408_ee9b0d230e.jpg?v=0
dayton
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Dayton_Skyline.jpg/800px-Dayton_Skyline.jpg
albequerque
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2303/2480648086_55ca833ba5.jpg?v=0
new haven
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Nhskyline_eastshore.jpg/800px-Nhskyline_eastshore.jpg
knoxville
http://www.derringerevans.com/siteadmin/modules/page_editor/images/files/knoxville_skyline.jpg
grand rapids
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/469425162_131ec4881d.jpg
akron
http://www.aradise.com/akron-ohio/akron-skyline-wide.jpg
baton rouge
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/BatonRougeSkyline.JPG/800px-BatonRougeSkyline.JPG
el paso
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/El_Paso_Skyline2.jpg/800px-El_Paso_Skyline2.jpg
alentown
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2365/2237440139_763fc40fa0.jpg?v=0

[Jolly]

actually, i will challenge you to find a city of 3/4 of a million people with a larger skyline anywhere in north america....i'll even let you go up to a million people, if you want...


Calgary was in that population range when I left, and I know it had a larger skyline then. But as I've come to since appreciate, Calgary was and is somewhat freakish in that regard. I think you're right...there are smaller centers than Winnipeg with taller tallests (Omaha comes to mind), but probably not "larger skylines," however defined...

[WpG_GuY]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6080/winnipegskylinewh4qm6.jpg

hydro is the wrong way..


here is a recent pic with hydro from katekenn on flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2756200450_b13936a648_b.jpg

link to a larger version http://www.flickr.com/photos/35584579@N00/2756200450/sizes/o/

[Spocket]

Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.

And that Hydro Building...yuck.

Uh....okay. As TrueViking just pointed out to you, you're mistaken. In fact, I can think of some very large cities that don't hold a candle to Winnipeg (Phoenix comes to mind)

[The Jabroni]

Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.

And that Hydro Building...yuck.

Sure is flame bait around here...

[Andy6]

Yucky Hydro this afternoon, by me:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/2763934223_1e7ca1acaa_b.jpg

[1ajs]

what time was that around?

this afternoon
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2763993937_2e73d12e8b_o.jpg

looks like theres some small store fronts along edmonton sweet?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2764870104_c55fff3012_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2764026607_d614f15f37_o.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2764026557_44c3bc385f_o.jpg

the lime stone is starting to go in on the Carlton st side
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/2764026663_d56051ec35_o.jpg

[Andy6]

Thursday, August 14, 2008 around 4.45 pm:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2765665257_75c4d22308_b.jpg

[Jolly]

My only complaint about Hydro...the dark glass makes it look gloomy on an overcast day.

[newflyer]

Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.

And that Hydro Building...yuck.

It is obvious that you have no idea what your talking about. :rolleyes:

[Greco Roman]

Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.

And that Hydro Building...yuck.

Um, you live in Regina; that's all that needs to be said in terms of the category dissapointing :D

[Greco Roman]

Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.

And that Hydro Building...yuck.

But then you had previously written this:

"I haven't seen downtown Winnipeg from that perspective before. Nice work."

Here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=2960501#post2960501

Kinda puts your credibility at question, don't you think?

[Only The Lonely..]

Um, you live in Regina; that's all that needs to be said in terms of the category dissapointing :D

Haha, well said.

[Only The Lonely..]

Awesome shot. I love the canopy of trees set against the skyline. Now if only the city would actually take care of our urban forrest.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2756200450_b13936a648_b.jpg

[newflyer]

Thursday, August 14, 2008 around 4.45 pm:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2765665257_75c4d22308_b.jpg

Lets tile the solar chimney already.. :yes:

[newflyer]

That picture really shows off that our downtown area is much too large for a city our size. It would look much better and definitely more manageable if it were smaller and more compact.


I think downtown Winnipeg would get the respect it deserves if it were surrounded by hills... say like Calgary. It would allow for more easily accessible locations to take great photos of the skyline.

Instead Winnipeg's downtown is surrounded by fairly flat terain and a dense urban forrest. Very beatiful.. but can make getting those skyline shots much more difficult.

Thankfully we have some ingenious forumers on here.

[swolfe]

knoxville
http://www.derringerevans.com/siteadmin/modules/page_editor/images/files/knoxville_skyline.jpg

On a completely unrelated note: That's a pretty sweet photo of the Wigsphere! (for any Simpsons junkies out there)

[Winnipegger]

Winnipeg has one of the most disappointing skylines for a city it's size in North America.
And that Hydro Building...yuck.
I would have to completely disagree with you. Winnipeg's skyline is quite large, and can be seen in the photos already posted in your thread, but I'll post them again for a rub in effect: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6080/winnipegskylinewh4qm6.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2756200450_b13936a648_b.jpg

Winnipeg's skyline is not covered in glass like some cities that sprouted in the 90's and recently, like Calgary, but I think it has some good divercification.
However, I think alot of people don't think our skyline is noteworthy because it is so spread out. We have tall buildings, but portage and main has only 3 skyscrapers (MTS doesn't count) and kind of makes everything else look really small and worthless, and since there are only 3 (or 4) towers there, it looks small. It's hard to capture the entire skyline in photo for Winnipeg, so most pictures only capture portage and main, thus making it look small. However, if we got like 5 more towers around portage and main, things would look great. Thats just dreaming though.

Also, in that last photo, I couldn't believe that was Winnipeg. I thought thats something you could only see in Calgary or Montreal.

[1ajs]

http://pointdouglas.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/1340.jpg

[Boreal]

Nicely Done, Sir!!!!!!

[Biff]

I do like the Hydro building we got, i think that it is a quality, high tech building any city would be glad to have, especially as a filler....now i don't want to turn this into a bashing thread but i was once again drawn to what we could have had after reading in the Skyscraper Construction section of the construction of (now delayed) 122 Leadenhall Building. I know it may never have turned out this way but Aspers Hydro proposal rendering was a rip off of this Rogers beauty (or maybe Asper contacted Rogers???). 122 Leadenhall is a 53 storey, 736' (224m) 600,000 sq ft tower. Hydro is a 22 storey, 370 ish ft, 690,000 sq ft building. http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/122leadenhall.jpg

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=129755

..again i like the Hydro Building but i would love to see a 550 to 600 ft building alter the skyline a little. I also know we need more filler and we should gladly give up a 600 ft tower for 4 - 150 ft towers for density..bla, bla, bla

...sometimes it is just nice to wish - we are skyscraper geeks right?

[Spocket]

Now that I think about it, can anybody remember why it was a better idea to go with the chosen design over something more slender (and naturally, taller) ? I ask because in terms of energy efficiency, wouldn't a taller building have provided greater benefits for "green" design ? For example, smaller floorplates should translate into more sunshine lighting the place shouldn't it ? A higher solar chimney would be able to collect more solar energy wouldn't it ?
I understand they want to minimize that shadow (although I've never really understood what the issue was with that considering the building is downtown and it's not like they have any residents or parks to cast a shadow over) but otherwise... ?

I like the building more or less and I'm not complaining really about what we got. Just wondering really.

[DowntownWpg]

whats with the missing pains of glass and that weird metal thing on the atrium glas or does anyone know?

I'd like to echo this question. From my vantage point yesterday of the Edmonton and Graham sides, I counted at least four panes of glass missing and replaced by plywood. Counted two additional missing panes directly beside the chimney on a photo on this page (the photo originally posted by Andy6 that Newflyer brought forward in a quote).

Anyway, I'm curious what might be going on with regards to the missing panes of glass?

[sledhead35]

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=129755



wow, we could have had a beaut like that in our city? i've been looking for the hydro renderings that didnt make it(i didnt pay attention to such things back in the day) and havent had any luck. does anyone have some pics to satisfy my curiosity of "what could have been"?

[1ajs]

umm that was the norman foster design its in the diagram database btw..

reson why hydro took the shoter fater building... well becuase its departsments are so masive... and they don't want to split them up between floors........

[Andy6]

Now that I think about it, can anybody remember why it was a better idea to go with the chosen design over something more slender (and naturally, taller) ? I ask because in terms of energy efficiency, wouldn't a taller building have provided greater benefits for "green" design ? For example, smaller floorplates should translate into more sunshine lighting the place shouldn't it ? A higher solar chimney would be able to collect more solar energy wouldn't it ?

Tall skinny buildings are very expensive per square foot, not to mention being inefficient in terms of organizing a large business like Hydro. I don't really think a local public utility could justify spending the money it would take to build some sort of globally iconic skyscraper. We're probably quite lucky to get what we're getting.

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Tall skinny buildings are very expensive per square foot, not to mention being inefficient in terms of organizing a large business like Hydro. I don't really think a local public utility could justify spending the money it would take to build some sort of globally iconic skyscraper. We're probably quite lucky to get what we're getting.

True perhaps..

But I like to think that office buildings are a lot like women. They both look better when they're tall and skinny.

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I do like the Hydro building we got, i think that it is a quality, high tech building any city would be glad to have, especially as a filler....now i don't want to turn this into a bashing thread but i was once again drawn to what we could have had after reading in the Skyscraper Construction section of the construction of (now delayed) 122 Leadenhall Building. I know it may never have turned out this way but Aspers Hydro proposal rendering was a rip off of this Rogers beauty (or maybe Asper contacted Rogers???). 122 Leadenhall is a 53 storey, 736' (224m) 600,000 sq ft tower. Hydro is a 22 storey, 370 ish ft, 690,000 sq ft building. http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/122leadenhall.jpg

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=129755

..again i like the Hydro Building but i would love to see a 550 to 600 ft building alter the skyline a little. I also know we need more filler and we should gladly give up a 600 ft tower for 4 - 150 ft towers for density..bla, bla, bla

...sometimes it is just nice to wish - we are skyscraper geeks right?

She's a beauty, and I totally agree.