[Rise To The Top]

WOW, glass gets better and better.

[Knightwing]

Probably some time around the end of the year, supposedly two months to finish the transfer floors which started a couple weeks ago, so about the end of the year. It'll be noticeably growing in January for sure...

Probably more like within the first trimester of December, barring any incredible stints of bad weather.

[i_am_hydrogen]

Damn, Bvictor... That first shot is nice. The best I've seen from that angle.

[Alliance]

WOW, glass gets better and better.

It looks great when its not reflecting anything ;)

[nomarandlee]

Adrian Smith and Blair Kamin on tommorow (9pm Thur) on Milt Rosenberg WGN Radio.

[jjk1103]

I do believe there is a pimp in the foreground of wrabbits first pic...

....actually, that was Donald in disguise !! :haha:

[cubbbyblue]

Adrian Smith and Blair Kamin on tommorow (9pm Thur) on Milt Rosenberg WGN Radio.

I hope I can remember to listen to that...Milts an awesome interviewer

[Steely Dan]

Adrian Smith and Blair Kamin on tommorow (9pm Thur) on Milt Rosenberg WGN Radio.

thank you for the heads up, i'll be sure to tune in, and i'd recommend everyone else to do so as well. as cubbyblue said, milt is an excellent interviewer and with both kamin and smith on the air with him, this should prove quite interesting.

[Knightwing]

Is that 720 AM?

[Chi649]

Is that 720 AM?That is correct, 720 AM. Here is a link to the show's home page:
http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=31&Itemid=129

Thanks nomarandlee!

[phillyskyline]

I'm loving the base already, cant wait for the final product!

[Wheelingman04]

I am in love.

[BVictor1]

Damn, Bvictor... That first shot is nice. The best I've seen from that angle.

Thanks.

[Alliance]

the second shot is way better imo, not to mention its something we haven't seen yet.

[cbotnyse]

I know the quality isnt good on this one, but the sunset was pretty crazy last night and I had to act quick! Just thought I'd share.


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/11111111435288072306_0_BG.jpg

[andydie]

awesome shot, nearly looks like an old oil painting:tup:

[cbotnyse]

thanks. I also caught this one. Thats Trump on the left and 300 N. LaSalle on the right in the background.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/Picture109-1.jpg

[andydie]

:previous:

really nice one too, what a colorfull sky and the reflection of it in the Trump Tower looks great:yes:

[Alliance]

..."and with the second step, I was trying to recognize that residential building to the north"

:haha:

They're talking all about Cityfront plaza being modeled after the river developments in the 20's (an anti-Illinois Center), but all I've ever seen for Cityfront porposals are VERY modernist buildings.

[bnk]

Adrian Smith and Blair Kamin on tommorow (9pm Thur) on Milt Rosenberg WGN Radio.

Thanks for the heads up. :) I am listening to it right now. Interesting show.

[Dalton]

Someone should call in to Milt Rosenberg and plug this site.

I find it hilarious that they just spent ten minutes railing against parking podiums when Smith's Trump Tower has 12 floors of parking that is going to be quite visible - and pretty ugly - at night. And no mention of the Chicago Spire's underground parking. :haha:

[wrab]

That is correct, 720 AM. Here is a link to the show's home page:
http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=31&Itemid=129

Thanks nomarandlee!

I could almost hear Smith sneer when Calatrava & the Spire came up LOL

[Aleks]

Wait. Are there any renderings of the floor plates? The size of the sections etc..?

[nomarandlee]

It sounds like Kamin wants to lay into the Trump Tower a bit more and would if Smith wasn't there. Kind of a deft praise he seems to be giving it.:haha:

I am the one that also asked about the old post office. Did I sound nervous? First time on radio. :D I am a bit surprised that Smith wants to tear it down while Kamin sounded like he still may have hope for it.

All in all good questions I just wished maybe Wolf Point or the future Riverwalk would have been brought up.

[Alliance]

I wish someone would have brought up Smiths new Zero-E tower.

I kind of agree with Smith on the Post office. I fine myself agreeing on him with lots of planning issues...actually most everything except for his own work. :haha:

[Dalton]

It sounds like Kamin wants to lay into the Trump Tower a bit more and would if Smith wasn't there. Kind of a deft praise he seems to be giving it.:haha:

I am the one that also asked about the old post office. Did I sound nervous? First time on radio. :D I am a bit surprised that Smith wants to tear it down while Kamin sounded like he still may have hope for it.

All in all good questions I just wished maybe Wolf Point or the future Riverwalk would have been brought up.

You did fine. I don't think the post office would make a good casino though. It's much too large. Plus, any Chicago casino would be better placed near McCormack Place to fleece the conventioneers rather than local citizens. I'd have to agee with Smith that it should be torn down.

There were some subtle swipes at Trump, both the man and the building at the end of the show. I take it Kamin doesn't like what he sees so far, but seems grateful that Smith has been able to "tame it down" a bit.

[Dalton]

BTW (and I know this thread is going off topic but where else could we discuss an interview with Adrian Smith but in a thread on one of his buildings):

Someone named Butler called in to the show. The name seems familiar, and he mentioned the magic term, "supertall". Is he a Skyscraper Page forumer?

It's too bad no one could have plugged this forum on the show to increase general awareness of and appreciation for the current skyscraper boom in Chicago. To those who called in: Did the call screener specifically request that no websites be plugged or did you just not think to mention the forum?

[newstl2020]

Butler is Bvic. That could have very well been a different Butler though...Chicago is kind of big, I guess. :) You'll have to ask him for yourself, although he will probably clear this up before you get the chance Dalton.

[Alliance]

You did fine. I don't think the post office would make a good casino though. It's much too large. Plus, any Chicago casino would be better placed near McCormack Place to fleece the conventioneers rather than local citizens. I'd have to agee with Smith that it should be torn down.

There were some subtle swipes at Trump, both the man and the building at the end of the show. I take it Kamin doesn't like what he sees so far, but seems grateful that Smith has been able to "tame it down" a bit.

Kamin's comment about the bronze glass was a most definate swipe in my book. I feel that translats to Trump as well.

[denizen467]

my book

Please, elaborate.

[Alliance]

^^^ edited :haha:

Interesting interview. I really wish that in 4 years, we can have a panel of architects discuss the bad boys going up now.

[cubbbyblue]

Does anyone know if the interview will be placed on WGN's website? I found they have an archive of previous shows from this month, but it seems like thay arbitrarially post them.

[Steely Dan]

this is not the "trash dubai architecture" thread.

any other post even mentioning dubai in this thread will be promptly deleted. you guys all know the rules by now, but some of you still utterly refuse to respect them.

[Altauria]

The quality of the pic rather stinks, but the few of you who were there that night can really appreciate it. Hopefully Victor will post his. This was taken with my simple 2megapixel camera phone. Yes, that's the moon.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6290/trumpcp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Beck4ABigChicago]

Hi all, I don't post much in this forum b/c not much to add as you all cover the site here more than I see it in person and I work right next door!!! Anyhow, I have been on the fence about design and glass (as others have been) however, today I was walking down Wabash and was amazed when I took a second to look up. I am not sure if it is the design of the building, but from the Wabash view, this thing actually appears to me to be taller than it actually is. As example, when looking at IBM, while a nice building, "Tall" does to pop into my mind. However, when I look at TT, despite that it is still slightly shorter than IBM, it looks absolutely enormous!

Is this maybe some sort of optical illusion b/c of the design or glass? I am not sure it is something that can be captured on camera, but maybe I'll try next time I am over there.

And to think, this thing is what, half its full height? I feel like I won't be able to see the top when it is done. Amazing.

[BVictor1]

A few more shots from 10/21.2007

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/10/568302.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/10/568303.jpg

[Northwest]

Love it or hate it, TTC is a part of Chicago from now until far into the future, well beyond our lifespans. I dont believe its an eyesore, but its also not an iconic masterpiece, as is the Spire or classics like Sears or JHC. Its simply a respectable supertall in a prominent location, and it adds to the architectural diversity of an already great city. Lets see how this one stands the test of time. In any case, the hard work of the engineers, designers, ironworkers, and other players who made this project happen should be given praise for a task well executed. :tup:

[Chi649]

FYI: The Trump Tower Build it Bigger special is on right now (9PM - 10PM) on The Science Channel.

[bnk]

FYI: The Trump Tower Build it Bigger special is on right now (9PM - 10PM) on The Science Channel.


What channel is that for comcast if you know?

[Chitown]

What channel is that for comcast if you know?
272. I just watched the last 2/3, and set the DVR to record it when it plays again at midnight.

They really did kiss Trump's ass in that, btw.

[i_am_hydrogen]

A couple weeks old:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/kdickert/TrumpNight.jpg

Mather up close:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/kdickert/MatherNight.jpg

[harryc]

A couple weeks old:

Mather up close:


Wow .... Love the top of Mather

[Alliance]

*loves Mather in general*

it doesn't get enough love...

[Chicago Shawn]

^Nice shots, never realized how "hollow" the rebuilt top of Mather Tower really is.

[10023]

Is that a room at the top? Would be awesome to have that as a round studio apartment with those arched windows, and then access to the open level below as a patio :)

[headcase]

Is that a room at the top? Would be awesome to have that as a round studio apartment with those arched windows, and then access to the open level below as a patio :)

If I remember correctly the top half is a private boutique hotel.

SSDD

[BVictor1]

Taken 10/23/07

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8610/p1100006ajh6.jpg

[PIZ]

What floor are they currently working on? I seen the History channel program when they where on the 30th, just wondering how far they came along since then? Thanks!:)

[BVictor1]

What floor are they currently working on? I seen the History channel program when they where on the 30th, just wondering how far they came along since then? Thanks!:)

They're on about 50 or so.

[Alliance]

If I recall from the radio program it was 51?

[Dr. Taco]

Taken 10/23/07

man, talk about being in the right place at the right time. beautiful :)
imagine this shot when the building is completed

[Chi649]

If I recall from the radio program it was 51?Yep, that's what Smith said.

[Tom In Chicago]

^They're on what appears to be floor 51. . . however the floor numbers on the skip are 3 floors off since they don't count the mezzanine levels. . . they're actually at floor 54. . .

[aluminum]

Has it passed IBM ?

[Apex]

If I remember correctly the top half is a private boutique hotel.

SSDD

Yup, it's a Club Quarters; I bet the views are incredible from those rooms though, Mather sticks out like a sore thumb!! (But I love it all the same).

[Dr. Taco]

Has it passed IBM ?

no

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/jstush04/trumpibm.jpg

[aluminum]

^^^ Right, but its close.

[RickBass]

The cranes from Trump can be easily seen in this screenshot from the broadcast of the Bears game on WFLD TV/Fox Sports Today.

http://www.richardnhill.com/bears_trump_20071028.jpg

[Chi649]

10-28-2007

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8585/dsc08942kq3.jpg


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9302/dsc08944ws0.jpg


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1341/dsc08950uy6.jpg


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7345/dsc08951kb2.jpg


http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1711/dsc08952gr7.jpg


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4643/dsc08955mr3.jpg


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2517/dsc08956qw3.jpg


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2038/dsc08957ml7.jpg


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7391/dsc08958ev0.jpg


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/104/dsc08959ox7.jpg

[Dr. Taco]

^:slob:

its unbelievable to me how "perfect" IBM is. also, again, trump just looks so stinkin good during the right conditions

[CHAPINM1]

Looking even better every day, this building REALLY is impressive! :yes:

[VA_Gentleman]

Great pictures. I love the third picture because the big red gingerbread house is absolutely dwarfed by IBM and Trump, amazing.

[harryc]

Great pictures. I love the third picture because the big red gingerbread house is absolutely dwarfed by IBM and Trump, amazing.

That is Harry Caray's Restaurant, a 4 story ( above street now ) building.

http://www.harrycarays.com/images/rest_building_history.jpg

http://www.harrycarays.com/restaurants_chicago.html

[KevinFromTexas]

Great pics. Love that shot from afar.

[cbotnyse]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_0064.jpg

[TowerGuy37]

what floor have they reached here???? no has stated lately

[Alliance]

51 (54). Its on this page several times.

[bande]

I went a bit crazy when I was downtown yesterday. It was the first time I have ventured downtown in about 6 months! I'll try to post up photos from different angles than the ones that have been recently posted.

http://gallery.v6z24.com/d/3018-2/IMG_2578.JPG
From Millennium park.

http://gallery.v6z24.com/d/3035-2/trump.jpg

http://gallery.v6z24.com/d/3039-2/IMG_2608.JPG

http://gallery.v6z24.com/d/3063-2/IMG_2664.JPG
As seen from the Sears tower.

[Untitled]

http://gallery.v6z24.com/d/3039-2/IMG_2608.JPG

Why do I hate TT in some pictures and love it in others? I'm so conflicted about this dang thing.

[Alliance]

The tower is a mix of really good things and really bad things.

[GregBear24]

^ Maybe because in your (as well as my) opinion, it looks spectacular from some angles, and rather uninspiring from others. I get this with Sears, 900 n michigan, 311 wacker, and it might happen with the spire for me personally. It's all a matter of opinion, but there sometimes is a general consensus on these things. I don't care for TT in some angles, but most angles are good and some are simply incredible, and it's just the nature of architecture I suppose. Everyone has a different opinion about each angle of each building. Overall, I love this building a lot, but just like Sears it has some awkward yet still intersting and compelling view points for my taste.

[chiphile]

Why do I hate TT in some pictures and love it in others? I'm so conflicted about this dang thing.


Because it reflects Chicago weather. Literally, figuratively, whateverly, I think that explains it pretty much.

[Alliance]

^ Maybe because in your (as well as my) opinion, it looks spectacular from some angles, and rather uninspiring from others. I get this with Sears, 900 n michigan, 311 wacker, and it might happen with the spire for me personally. It's all a matter of opinion, but there sometimes is a general consensus on these things. I don't care for TT in some angles, but most angles are good and some are simply incredible, and it's just the nature of architecture I suppose. Everyone has a different opinion about each angle of each building. Overall, I love this building a lot, but just like Sears it has some awkward yet still intersting and compelling view points for my taste.

Hey, I'm lucky I might have found ONE angle from which it will look good.

[Dr. Taco]

Why do I hate TT in some pictures and love it in others? I'm so conflicted about this dang thing.

hey, even I don't look good from every angle...

[BVictor1]

A few more from 10/21/07

Maybe the morphing can be done again of everyones photos taken from this angle is possible. I remember that it was done about 2 months ago.
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/10/569097.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/10/569096.jpg

[Ghost]

A few more from 10/21/07

Maybe the morphing can be done again of everyones photos taken from this angle is possible. I remember that it was done about 2 months ago.

Sure, here you go.
http://i5.tinypic.com/644uwrl.jpg (http://i14.tinypic.com/6f789ps.jpg)
(Click to enlarge)
I know it's pretty crap quality, but it was done in like 5 mins. I see if I can (be bothered) to put cranes there tomorrow (It's night here right now :)).

[MayDay]

I think you did a good job! :tup:

[PIZ]

Very nice morph Vic, wow man, exactly what I was looking for! Gives you an exact idea of whats left ta go (and just as if it where totally built!), sweet! Now if this can only be done with the Burj? I really do wish trumph would have made this a tad bit taller, but I been wishing this for 2 years already, I'll quit my b*tching while I'm ahead.lol!

[BVictor1]

I think you did a good job! :tup:

I agree. I guess that I should have said animation of progress. Thanks Ghost.

[jjk1103]

...when will they begin to fill in the glass on the "elevator" (river) lower section of the building ?? ...I thought they wanted to open the hotel by December ?

[cbotnyse]

10-30-07


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/Trump_0023_filtered.jpg

[Austin55]

:previous: thats going to be a stunning view soon!

[Dr. Taco]

I agree. I guess that I should have said animation of progress. Thanks Ghost.

as long as ghost keeps updating that render shot, I'll make another similar but more complete GIF

[FastFerrari82]

Sure, here you go.
http://i5.tinypic.com/644uwrl.jpg (http://i14.tinypic.com/6f789ps.jpg)
(Click to enlarge)
I know it's pretty crap quality, but it was done in like 5 mins. I see if I can (be bothered) to put cranes there tomorrow (It's night here right now :)).

VERY NICE!!!!

[CHAPINM1]

What's the minimum time frame expected when construction is working on a setback for this project? Three weeks, a month?

[Apex]

What's the minimum time frame expected when construction is working on a setback for this project? Three weeks, a month?

Mm, yes, it seems like it's been stalled at this level for about two months now.

[Northwest]

Does anyone have renderings and stats of the TTC proposal from before the project was re-designed and downsized after 9-11? If so, I would love to see them. :yes:

[cbotnyse]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/DSC_0001_filtered.jpg

[JACKinBeantown]

Great vantage point. I haven't seen a photo from there before.

[Fabb]

The lakefront is really amazing. I love it !

[djvandrake]

Mm, yes, it seems like it's been stalled at this level for about two months now.

The latest details we have on the construction schedule is this transfer floor was started in early-mid September. It should take 45+ days to complete and then the floors will rise on a 3 day pour schedule.

[Knightwing]

The end of this week will complete the third week of transfer floor construction.

[chex]

very nice pic!

[ChiPsy]

Does anyone have renderings and stats of the TTC proposal from before the project was re-designed and downsized after 9-11? If so, I would love to see them. :yes:

Or maybe you wouldn't -- too painful :hell: The 2000' version of Trump was to have been a real beauty, and I mourned for years the replacement of that project with this one...until CS was unveiled, when I jumped for joy and bananculated (hopefully not prematurely).

[Northwest]

Or maybe you wouldn't -- too painful :hell: The 2000' version of Trump was to have been a real beauty, and I mourned for years the replacement of that project with this one...until CS was unveiled, when I jumped for joy and bananculated (hopefully not prematurely).

Painful, maybe, but I would still like to see what TTC might have been. Anyone have links to the original renderings?

[honte]

^ The only one I saw was pre-SOM, and basically I thought it sucked.

[Steely Dan]

^ The only one I saw was pre-SOM, and basically I thought it sucked.

yeah, there was that OWP&P 2,000 ft. design that the trib published the day before 9-11, but by that point in time, they were already out of the running. it looked like a giant green toothpick. i never saw the original SOM 2,000' scheme, but allegedly the very first SOM scheme released to the public way back in november of 2001 was simply the 2,000' design with the top 900 or so feet lopped off, hence the ridiculously stumpy proportions ("the trump stump").

then there was that adrian smith presentation at the AIC in which he showed a lot of renderings of different design ideas they were initially exploring for the 2,000' version, but they were just slides on a projector, i don't think anyone here ever got their hands on hard copies of them.

[Nunc Pro Tunc]

Long time lurker. Third time poster. Somebody, either in this forum, or in one of the general Chicago forums did take photos of two of the three possible 2000 foot Smith designs for Trump's Tower that were shown at the talk that Steely referenced. They also took and posted a photo of a painting of Smith's massing concept for the building. I don't recall who posted them though. (Victor?) It would have been posted around June 10, 2004.

I have them and could post them if some laxity were conceded about crediting the source of the photos (or the original poster could just repost them).

Oh, and in my humble and uninformed opinion, the designs in question were very bleh, but I imagine that Smith would have improved them over time just as he did with the version that was actually built.

[Northwest]

yeah, there was that OWP&P 2,000 ft. design that the trib published the day before 9-11, but by that point in time, they were already out of the running. it looked like a giant green toothpick. i never saw the original SOM 2,000' scheme, but allegedly the very first SOM scheme released to the public way back in november of 2001 was simply the 2,000' design with the top 900 or so feet lopped off, hence the ridiculously stumpy proportions ("the trump stump").

then there was that adrian smith presentation at the AIC in which he showed a lot of renderings of different design ideas they were initially exploring for the 2,000' version, but they were just slides on a projector, i don't think anyone here ever got their hands on hard copies of them.

I would still like to see the TTC in its 2000' iteration, even if it sucked. Anyone have a link, or a rendering? :haha:

[BVictor1]

Taken 11/01/07

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/569518.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/569519.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/11/569522.jpg