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plinko
Feb 8, 2008, 4:42 PM
hmmm...I can't wait to judge this building for myself next weekend!

Steely Dan
Feb 8, 2008, 4:51 PM
hmmm...I can't wait to judge this building for myself next weekend!

it won't be finished by then ;)

and while i'm mostly joking about that, i think any real judgments of a building are premature if made before the structure is completed. often times the whole composition needs to come together before the individual pieces make sense.

cbotnyse
Feb 8, 2008, 5:11 PM
I almost forgot I captured a couple of the Grand Ballroom at Trump (sorry quality is not good, I had to snap them fast)...A friend of mine inquired about weddings.....$220 a plate!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_0045-1.jpg


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_0046.jpg

Soaring_Higher
Feb 8, 2008, 8:05 PM
I almost forgot I captured a couple of the Grand Ballroom at Trump (sorry quality is not good, I had to snap them fast)...A friend of mine inquired about weddings.....$220 a plate!



...I would never pay over 30 G's to feed 150 people. Sorry Trump, my money (or lack there of), would be good somewhere else.

.

southlooper
Feb 8, 2008, 9:46 PM
Wow, so that's how the Donald will pay to finish this thing!

Actually, $220 a plate is competitive with high end weddings at the Pen, 4 Seasons and Ritz.

If ya gotta ask how much, stick to the VA hall.

Tom Servo
Feb 9, 2008, 2:57 AM
wow. oh my god. TACKY. it looks like trump was the interior designer. i'm embarrassed by the building being in chicago. before i thought this was just bad architecture... but now wow... i can safely say that this is bad architecture on steroids. this is right out of las vagas... god damn :( what a shame. wow.

was the food even good?

Lecom
Feb 9, 2008, 2:59 AM
That would have been one hell of a classy space, if they accounted for that pillar in the design rather than just working around it. It looks very out of place in that space.

pasadenabinks
Feb 9, 2008, 3:19 AM
That would have been one hell of a classy space, if they accounted for that pillar in the design rather than just working around it. It looks very out of place in that space.

I definately agree....that pillar looks terribly out of place

Knightwing
Feb 9, 2008, 3:23 AM
wow. oh my god. TACKY. it looks like trump was the interior designer. i'm embarrassed by the building being in chicago. before i thought this was just bad architecture... but now wow... i can safely say that this is bad architecture on steroids. this is right out of las vagas... god damn :( what a shame. wow.

was the food even good?

Never satisfied...

honte
Feb 9, 2008, 3:30 AM
That would have been one hell of a classy space, if they accounted for that pillar in the design rather than just working around it. It looks very out of place in that space.

I agree the column is awkward. There should have been more attempt to work with it.... I am imagining the circular shape morphed to work with the column as its focus, something like a comet's orbit around the sun.

Soaring_Higher
Feb 9, 2008, 4:44 AM
yeah, the pillar is awful. The room even slants... :haha:

If they put a cool curtain up and wrap a table around it, people may not really notice. or maybe not...

LAsam
Feb 9, 2008, 5:16 AM
Trump Tower is looking good! The urban canyons of Chicago are definately one of the great man-made wonders of the world.

APPRAISER
Feb 9, 2008, 7:02 AM
wow. oh my god. TACKY. it looks like trump was the interior designer. i'm embarrassed by the building being in chicago. before i thought this was just bad architecture... but now wow... i can safely say that this is bad architecture on steroids. this is right out of las vagas... god damn :( what a shame. wow.

was the food even good?

Hey AdrianXSands,

I know you don't like the exterior, but why don't you like the interior?
I know that column in the middle of the room sucks, but what building, in Chicago, do you like for the interior?
I'm just curious in knowing what type of architecture you like thats all!

Thanks!!

Lecom
Feb 9, 2008, 7:33 AM
If they put a cool curtain up and wrap a table around it, people may not really notice. or maybe not...
Don't give Trump ideas.

cbotnyse
Feb 9, 2008, 8:33 AM
wow. oh my god. TACKY. it looks like trump was the interior designer. i'm embarrassed by the building being in chicago. before i thought this was just bad architecture... but now wow... i can safely say that this is bad architecture on steroids. this is right out of las vagas... god damn :( what a shame. wow.

was the food even good?there wasn't a chance in hell you would like the interior no matter WHAT it looked like. Frank Lloyd Wright and Louis Sullivan could have risen from the dead and designed the interior and you would still say its tacky. yeah yeah you're not a fan of bad design, we get it. blah blah blah :rolleyes:

and the food was tacky too! Bring back the Sun Times building!!

LaSalle.St.Station
Feb 9, 2008, 8:33 AM
I definately agree....that pillar looks terribly out of place


Structure baby, deal with it.... form follows.

Alliance
Feb 9, 2008, 2:28 PM
Never satisfied...

Its an attitude that promotes good architecture, but also fails to recognize it when you get there. I also feel Trump is lacking in many respects.

Structure baby, deal with it.... form follows.

In this case the structure was ignored. Thats the issue.

Dalton
Feb 9, 2008, 6:45 PM
I thought the whole point of the core and outrigger design, with all those transfer floors, was to leave the space between the core and the perimeter walls completely free of major structural columns. How the hell did Smith let something like this happen?

At the very least, didn't someone at some point look at the plans and say, "You know that Grand Ballroom space? Did you know that according to the plans there's going to be a 12 ft diameter pillar running right through the middle of it? Maybe that did happen and Trump's response was, "Well it's not quite in the middle is it? And anyway, if we paint it beige no one will notice it."

Lecom
Feb 9, 2008, 8:05 PM
Structure baby, deal with it.... form follows.
Actually, this is a bad case of form NOT following structure. Or, to put it in less pompous and self-important words, whoever designed that space is a hack that does not know how to work with existing conditions.

Knightwing
Feb 9, 2008, 8:51 PM
Its an attitude that promotes good architecture, but also fails to recognize it when you get there. I also feel Trump is lacking in many respects.


Now that we have somewhat of a perspective of the interior, what are your thoughts? Do they mirror your thoughts on the exterior?

Beck4ABigChicago
Feb 9, 2008, 9:16 PM
Just so people don't think I am coming from a bias here, I have often been critical of the exterior(glass) of this building. However, I cannot understand Adrian's complete overblown exaggeration of the interior. He lost me right when I read TACKY. I just fail to see tacky, if anything, I think it looks somewhat on the conservative side and pretty clean in there. Yes, the pillar sure is an odd happening, and the carpet in the ballroom is not my taste, but I think it looks very nice in there.

Also, while we may not all love it, I sure cannot see calling the architect of this building a "hack." I do not find it logical that DT would hire a "hack" to build his masterpiece. I know, who said DT is logical. Whatever.

Tom In Chicago
Feb 9, 2008, 10:00 PM
Obviously anyone who thinks Adrian Smith is a "hack" knows nothing - or next to nothing - about architecture. . .

What I also find equally interesting and distracting on these threads is that the general knowledge of the subject matter is inversely proportional to the amount of complaining that gets posted. . .

This building still has a long way to go before being completed, but so far (wavvy glass included) it's turned out to be one of the better buildings in Chicago's inventory. . .

. . .

yarabundi
Feb 9, 2008, 11:53 PM
I almost forgot I captured a couple of the Grand Ballroom at Trump (sorry quality is not good, I had to snap them fast)...A friend of mine inquired about weddings.....$220 a plate!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_0045-1.jpg


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_0046.jpg

For a modern, 21rst century building it totally lack of taste. It's..unappealing !!

Pandemonious
Feb 10, 2008, 12:41 AM
Trump poking into the skyline from 18th Street:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/Pandemonious/DSCF0315.jpg

Trump from South Clark, right next to one of my favorite south side bldgs:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/Pandemonious/DSCF0316.jpg

Dr. Taco
Feb 10, 2008, 12:42 AM
^ honestly, guys, its just not as bad as you make it out to be. I guess I don't have taste either...but the column is at the back of the room, and I think it adds a kind of cool, brooding element to the room.

However, unless there is a hard floor somewhere in there, I can't see any good wedding receptions happening in there. But any other kind of reception is fine!

picky picky picky. You're paying big bucks for the views and location, but other than that, this is the entry-level banquet room of the building. Now, if that top floor stuff isn't knock-your-socks off, then we got problems

Apex
Feb 10, 2008, 3:18 AM
the pillar is definitely a mistake (a pretty dumb one), but other than that it's not too distasteful.

Chi649
Feb 10, 2008, 4:15 AM
2-9-2008

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2353/dsc09496uv1.jpg

Nowhereman1280
Feb 10, 2008, 4:17 AM
^^^ How can you not find this building at least somewhat attractive. Even Alliance admits that there are parts of it that look pretty good and that it is growing on him. Anyone who finds this (or just about any other building) completely repulsive has no credibility in my book.


I honestly don't see how the pillar is a mistake. I guarantee you that they didn't say "oh, it would look good if we put this huge pillar in the middle of the room" it was probably more along the lines of "if we don't have a huge pillar in the middle, the building will fall down, but at least it will look better".

I don't know what choice you would have made, but I probably would have went with them and chose the "not fall down" option over the "good looking, but falls down" option...

Then again I guess I have no taste as well... :shrug:

jc5680
Feb 10, 2008, 4:22 AM
For a modern, 21rst century building it totally lack of taste. It's..unappealing !!

Based on what? It is full of contemporary design from furniture to color and other furnishings. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but if your are going to make an objective statement that relates to contemporary style it should be a bit more educated. If you don't like it thats fine, but it certainly follows current design trends and for something with the Trump name on it, it is pretty subdued.

cbotnyse
Feb 10, 2008, 4:30 AM
Based on what? It is full of contemporary design from furniture to color and other furnishings. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but if your are going to make an objective statement that relates to contemporary style it should be a bit more educated. If you don't like it thats fine, but it certainly follows current design trends and for something with the Trump name on it, it is pretty subdued.Good post and I agree. it could have been a lot worse. Tacky never entered my mind. I thought the restaurant and lobby were very warm and inviting. Soft colors, dark woods, big leather chairs, all nicely done, and like you said, contemporary. I encourage everybody to check it out for themselves. My pictures do not do it justice, see it in person.

JMininger
Feb 10, 2008, 4:41 AM
I honestly don't see how the pillar is a mistake. I guarantee you that they didn't say "oh, it would look good if we put this huge pillar in the middle of the room" it was probably more along the lines of "if we don't have a huge pillar in the middle, the building will fall down, but at least it will look better".

I don't know what choice you would have made, but I probably would have went with them and chose the "not fall down" option over the "good looking, but falls down" option...


:haha:

I think I would have voted for the "not fall down" option too.

Personally, my first reaction to the photo was positive and I didn't pay much attention to the column. I did notice it on my second view but, meh, doesn't bother me too much. Even if you don't like the room, you won't care two drinks into whatever event you're attending.

honte
Feb 10, 2008, 4:50 AM
I honestly don't see how the pillar is a mistake. I guarantee you that they didn't say "oh, it would look good if we put this huge pillar in the middle of the room" it was probably more along the lines of "if we don't have a huge pillar in the middle, the building will fall down, but at least it will look better".

Well, you can't really argue with structure once it's designed. Certainly, no one is going to put in a transfer floor for a ballroom, unless it's one magical ballroom.

But I do fault them for the way the interior layout is done. Thankfully, I think this room and 16 look a bit devoid of life so far. This is an opportunity for them - if they erect something in the future back behind the column, the room will feel a lot better. It could be a bar, or a coat room, or storage, I don't know. It's just wasted and it does come off like a mistake.

My biggest complaint with the room, however, is the ceiling diffusers, strangely enough. They just look like a Sears store c. 1970 to me. I never like the round type of diffusers. And the carpet.

In any case, the space looks amazing from the exterior, with those huge ceiling heights and views that sweep around the building. With views like that, I am sure most people's attention will not be on the column or the ceiling or the carpet.

Knightwing
Feb 10, 2008, 5:14 AM
the pillar is definitely a mistake (a pretty dumb one)

Perhaps we should petition to have it removed and just wait and see what happens to the building once it does get removed...:doh:

Chicago2020
Feb 10, 2008, 7:24 AM
yeah lets bring back the sun times building :yuck: :yuck: :yuck:

http://photos.innersource.com/media/10766/l.jpg

Chi649
Feb 10, 2008, 7:25 AM
^^ I agree, that box on top and the flagpole were awesome :haha:

Perhaps we should petition to have it removed and just wait and see what happens to the building once it does get removed...:doh:It should be fine, a 96 storey all-reinforced concrete building doesn't need many internal support columns.

texcolo
Feb 10, 2008, 7:58 AM
ART CLASS 101:

Lesson 1: When bashing a piece of artwork, architecture or design into the ground, use words with more weight than 'tacky.'

Does it bother you that the column is large and off center?

The column is large because it holds up the building. The column is off center to make the majority of the room useful.

The colour scheme is made up entirely of neutral colors. The column and the shape of the room are echoed / complimented by the circular pattern in the carpet and by the shape of the lighting fixtures.

The only way I can see to improve the room any, is to make the circular moldings in the ceiling gradate from the shape of the column to the shape of the room. Maybe the transaction of the column to the ceiling is a bit bare, a subtle capital to the column would ease that transaction. The circular pattern in the carpet is a bit contrasty... but that's just me.

I'm no fan of Trump, and personally most of his buildings are trash. But, this is a good building, and this is good interior design. Not great, but good.

Compare this with 'tacky'. WHY is it tacky????

skeeter
Feb 10, 2008, 8:12 AM
i know for a fact that colm o’callaghan has tried to get that column removed but with a one million price tag, the column will stay.

Beck4ABigChicago
Feb 10, 2008, 11:55 AM
ART CLASS 101:

Lesson 1: When bashing a piece of artwork, architecture or design into the ground, use words with more weight than 'tacky.'

Does it bother you that the column is large and off center?

The column is large because it holds up the building. The column is off center to make the majority of the room useful.

The colour scheme is made up entirely of neutral colors. The column and the shape of the room are echoed / complimented by the circular pattern in the carpet and by the shape of the lighting fixtures.

The only way I can see to improve the room any, is to make the circular moldings in the ceiling gradate from the shape of the column to the shape of the room. Maybe the transaction of the column to the ceiling is a bit bare, a subtle capital to the column would ease that transaction. The circular pattern in the carpet is a bit contrasty... but that's just me.

I'm no fan of Trump, and personally most of his buildings are trash. But, this is a good building, and this is good interior design. Not great, but good.

Compare this with 'tacky'. WHY is it tacky????


Admittedly, I know nothing about nothing :haha: but this is a great post. Colorado guys know a bit about style. i really feel comfortable with this being the last, least emotionally charged, rational "take" I have read. Seems like he was able to sum up what I (we) are thinking. It is perfectly reasonable. Thanks for a great post!

andydie
Feb 10, 2008, 12:58 PM
well my two cents to the above room:

While i like the design of the lobby, the restaurant and the other rooms i have seen so far this room could have been done better. Its not totally bad but with a lil more creativity and maybe different color schemes they could have done more with the room:rolleyes: . Well its not totally lost and maybe over time they will improve it like other fellow forumers have suggested.

As for Trump Tower itself it is an amazing building that will fit in greatly to the Chicago skyline:yes: .

texcolo
Feb 10, 2008, 3:05 PM
All kidding aside... if this room was built pretty much to hold wedding receptions... then there is strata of tacky that I can't even begin to talk about.

If a girl who is worried about getting upstaged by her maids of honor, she's damn sure not wanting to be upstaged by the architect.

Dac150
Feb 10, 2008, 4:50 PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding the building being un-attractive. I think it's the best that ever came out of Trump, and the location does nothing but do justice to the architecture. Honestly, I think some of you Chicagoans are getting spoiled.

laro3
Feb 10, 2008, 5:02 PM
spoiled,compare this building to the other supertalls being built around the world and tell me where you rank it!

wrab
Feb 10, 2008, 5:33 PM
2 deg F/-17 deg C; about thirty seconds to shoot before the fingers froze up. Next time, I'll wear gloves. Wabash & Wacker, 2/10/08:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/ChiTrumpPano20080210-1_2.jpg

You can make out the shadow of Mather Tower on Trump's skin.

MiamiSpartan
Feb 10, 2008, 5:45 PM
Boy, that is really coming along nicely!! By the time I make it back up there, it should just about be finished....

Alliance
Feb 10, 2008, 6:26 PM
Wonderful Shot wrabbit :cool:

Now that we have somewhat of a perspective of the interior, what are your thoughts? Do they mirror your thoughts on the exterior?

Kind of. I'm not really digging the Ballroom. I think its monotone and bland and the way the column is treated poorly. I also think the chandilers in the ballroom and resturant clash with the decor.

From what I could tell when I was there last time, the lobby looked pretty decent, but it was nothing spectacular imo. I did however, like the shot of cbotnyse took of him jsut outside the elevator. That looked classy to me. But, I have yet to go inside the building to make an actual judgement. A lot of environment can't be captured in photos.

I'm just bothered when people throw around the word icon to describe what I see as mediocrity. I think a lot of Trump is mediocre.

Vince
Feb 10, 2008, 11:38 PM
I've worked in most of the nicer ballrooms in the city, and I really have to agree that this one is quite bland and boring, although it will still get booked like crazy because it is in the Trump Tower

CenIL_LA
Feb 10, 2008, 11:58 PM
yes the only reason why it is so fancy in some capacity is the name attatched to it and the views it offers.

cbotnyse
Feb 11, 2008, 3:09 AM
I've worked in most of the nicer ballrooms in the city, and I really have to agree that this one is quite bland and boring, although it will still get booked like crazy because it is in the Trump TowerHave you been in this ballroom? my picture is poor quality and does not do it justice. I recommend going there yourself before you make this judgment.

I dont think the Trump name has anything to do with it. It is location, views and quality amenities that will get this booked. Not many ballrooms in the city will offer views like this does.

dagobert
Feb 11, 2008, 5:41 AM
Nice end to the Wabash St. canyon.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2257327438_8486ac0fa6.jpg?v=0

Still hidden by Marina Towers when viewed from Wacker Drive & LaSalle St.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2257328798_e74b15310e.jpg?v=0

ardecila
Feb 11, 2008, 6:26 AM
From Wolcott and Hubbard, 2/10/08:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2224/trumptv0.jpg

pablosan
Feb 11, 2008, 8:26 AM
Great updates. This is a great looking tower.

BVictor1
Feb 11, 2008, 7:08 PM
From Wolcott and Hubbard, 2/10/08:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2224/trumptv0.jpg

I love how the cranes in this image make the stair step pattern.

BVictor1
Feb 11, 2008, 7:11 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/787283,CST-NWS-trump11.article

Ex-publisher sues Trump

TRUMP TOWER | Says The Donald now refuses to honor $1.7 million ''friends and family'' condo discount price

February 11, 2008

SUN-TIMES STAFF REPORTS

Former Chicago Sun-Times publisher F. David Radler, who testified against his former boss Conrad Black in the trial stemming from the alleged looting of the company, is suing Donald Trump for refusing to sell Radler a condo in the new Trump International Hotel & Tower at a discount.

http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/021108trump.jpg_20080211_03_13_31_4-282-400.imageContent
Former Chicago Sun-Times publisher F. David Radler is suing Donald Trump for refusing to sell Radler a condo in the new Trump International Hotel & Tower at a discount. (AP)

cbotnyse
Feb 11, 2008, 7:22 PM
^ its my understanding Trump had every legal right to do that, but its a pretty huge dick move. I wonder why lawyers wouldn't comb through the original contracts to assure their clients this would not happen.

wrab
Feb 11, 2008, 7:24 PM
^ Well, good for Radler. For Trump just to cancel these F&F discounts, after using the presales to secure his financing and sales, is very small of him - very small, smelly and oily; also, a poor precedent for Trump, as a New York developer, to establish as part of his first project in Chicago.

But one must stand up to these bully types.

Ch.G, Ch.G
Feb 11, 2008, 7:25 PM
I love how the cranes in this image make the stair step pattern.

more bars in more places

wrab
Feb 11, 2008, 7:34 PM
^ its my understanding Trump had every legal right to do that, but its a pretty huge dick move. I wonder why lawyers wouldn't comb through the original contracts to assure their clients this would not happen.

Perhaps, but Radler has the hometown advantage.

pasadenabinks
Feb 11, 2008, 8:13 PM
more bars in more places

You beat me to it!! Need to sell that photo to Cingular!!

Ch.G, Ch.G
Feb 11, 2008, 8:23 PM
You beat me to it!! Need to sell that photo to Cingular!!

Great minds drink alike!

Knightwing
Feb 11, 2008, 11:59 PM
more bars in more places

Yep.

Alliance
Feb 12, 2008, 12:26 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/787283,CST-NWS-trump11.article

Ex-publisher sues Trump

TRUMP TOWER | Says The Donald now refuses to honor $1.7 million ''friends and family'' condo discount price

February 11, 2008

SUN-TIMES STAFF REPORTS

Former Chicago Sun-Times publisher F. David Radler, who testified against his former boss Conrad Black in the trial stemming from the alleged looting of the company, is suing Donald Trump for refusing to sell Radler a condo in the new Trump International Hotel & Tower at a discount.

http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/021108trump.jpg_20080211_03_13_31_4-282-400.imageContent
Former Chicago Sun-Times publisher F. David Radler is suing Donald Trump for refusing to sell Radler a condo in the new Trump International Hotel & Tower at a discount. (AP)


DUH!

You want revenge? BUY IN THE SPIRE. :cool:

SportsWorld
Feb 12, 2008, 2:30 AM
From far away TT looks very thin just hanging out over the others. I do not know if that is just me. But up close it looks ubber great.

SkokieSwift
Feb 12, 2008, 2:35 AM
I love how the cranes in this image make the stair step pattern.

Yup, looks like it's time for another AT&T commercial...

Taft
Feb 12, 2008, 1:14 PM
I wonder when we reach the point where Donald's legal fees and settlements are more than the money he saved rescinding on those pre-construction deals?

Taft

Trump tower tenants sue over deal changes (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-tue_trumpfeb12,0,5737419.story)

Would-be tenants allege deal details were altered

By Ameet Sachdev | Tribune reporter
February 12, 2008

More condo buyers in the new Trump tower are griping about promises the flamboyant developer allegedly has failed to keep, according to lawsuits.

Four buyers of hotel-condo units in the still-under-construction Chicago skyscraper developed by Donald Trump charge in one suit that just before closing on their properties the developer took away their ownership stake in the meeting rooms and other common areas of the hotel and reneged on contract terms related to usage of their units. At the end of January, a Cook County judge granted their request to postpone their closings.

They are not the only ones unhappy with the Trump project. At least two other would-be condo purchasers, including former Chicago Sun-Times Publisher F. David Radler, have sued the Trump-related entity developing the 92-story hotel and residential tower claiming it rescinded on pre-construction deals.

...

CenIL_LA
Feb 12, 2008, 2:24 PM
^^ wow just when you think you cant be anymore shafty. Does he want to sell units in this building? How do you change use priveldges? Why would you change use priveldges?

Nowhereman1280
Feb 12, 2008, 3:02 PM
^^^ Trump doesn't know what he's getting himself into. Even if they don't win the lawsuit, Trump is going to have a fun time trying to build anything in Chicago ever again since no one here is going to trust him. You just don't do that kind of thing here, no one else does it, so why does Trump think he should?

Taft
Feb 12, 2008, 3:57 PM
^^^ Trump doesn't know what he's getting himself into. Even if they don't win the lawsuit, Trump is going to have a fun time trying to build anything in Chicago ever again since no one here is going to trust him. You just don't do that kind of thing here, no one else does it, so why does Trump think he should?

He's definitely got balls, that for sure. I agree that these lawsuits are going to put him in a very bad light, not just for this project but all future projects in Chicago, as well.

It has been said before: I hate the man but love the building.

Taft

Marcu
Feb 12, 2008, 5:44 PM
Will the owners be able to vote on a new name fo the building?

djvandrake
Feb 12, 2008, 5:50 PM
Will the owners be able to vote on a new name fo the building?

I sure hope so, but given his ego I highly doubt it.

Are we starting to see a pattern here? Screw everybody for an extra nickel? It's becoming clear that no one can trust Trump farther than his combover will flop in a stiff Chicago breeze.

How he views this as good brand building, I'll never know. :sly:

cbotnyse
Feb 12, 2008, 6:08 PM
a review of 16 (more photos too)

http://chicago.metromix.com/restaurants/restaurant_review/first-look-sixteen/303272/content

jjk1103
Feb 12, 2008, 8:37 PM
DUH!

You want revenge? BUY IN THE SPIRE. :cool:

....I hope Trump buries David Radler and Conrad Black in the basement of Trump Tower.......:hell:

wrab
Feb 13, 2008, 7:03 PM
Lunchtime, 13 Feb '08:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/wjcordier/21308Pano-4.jpg

Eventually...Chicago
Feb 13, 2008, 9:53 PM
Will the owners be able to vote on a new name for the building?

I was thinking about that the other day.

I don't think so. Who is operating the hotel? I have a feeling that they would probably have the say in what the building's name is. I'm sure in some ownership agreement, the namings rights are clearly spelled out.

Actually, now i am wondering something... In these hotel and condo combo's Who pays for what, in terms of assesments and things.

All the utilities can be billed separately, but what about building maintenance? Snow removal? Does the condo association deal directly with the hotel operators or are they entirely separate?

Juan_M2118
Feb 13, 2008, 10:11 PM
I love the 2nd rendering in the first post. it looks insane!

that is very true, a lot of buildings seem to look better in their renderings, but htis building is just so amazing.

cbotnyse
Feb 13, 2008, 11:29 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_feb08.jpg


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_feb08-1.jpg

Tom Servo
Feb 13, 2008, 11:43 PM
WHOA!!! cool shot!!! that ice look wild!

Spiral Architect
Feb 14, 2008, 1:17 AM
He's definitely got balls, that for sure. I agree that these lawsuits are going to put him in a very bad light, not just for this project but all future projects in Chicago, as well.

It has been said before: I hate the man but love the building.

Taft

Does anyone recall The Donald's initial design plan of Tumpeting Chicago? Was Trump planning on building any living communities ala Magellan's Lakeshore East, or was the tower always a one and done?

Agreed with the above comments. Trump has pissed off every real estate individual, design firm and contractor that I've talked to. Some of his negotitating tactics have certainly made for ample coctail fodder in these professional circles. Despite all that, I still enjoy watching this mammoth Big Vegas Apple rise. Yeah, she's a Trump, but she's more Ivanka than The Donald.

Thanks to all the photographers for the many skyscraper erotica! :cool:

i_am_hydrogen
Feb 14, 2008, 2:09 AM
Taken today:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5959/trump2131hf2.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1134/trump2132tv7.jpg

Knightwing
Feb 14, 2008, 2:21 AM
I always look forward to this shot Hydrogen. Thanks.

Tom Servo
Feb 14, 2008, 3:31 AM
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5959/trump2131hf2.jpg

wow that's an awesome shot. my fav. so far from all of your trump from aon pics!

harryc
Feb 14, 2008, 4:46 AM
From Oak Park
http://lh6.google.com/harry.r.carmichael/R7PG_ikQ-xI/AAAAAAAAZmU/6TyNCL2RmQE/P1220435.JPG?imgmax=800

APPRAISER
Feb 14, 2008, 4:52 AM
i am hydrogen!!

Those shots are unbelievable!!! Even condos at that levels havee supurbed views!!
25 or more floor definently are going to be worth money!

BVictor1
Feb 14, 2008, 5:27 AM
From Oak Park
http://lh6.google.com/harry.r.carmichael/R7PG_ikQ-xI/AAAAAAAAZmU/6TyNCL2RmQE/P1220435.JPG?imgmax=800


Beautiful!!!

The clouds from that distance remind me of mountains in the backgrounds of cities of the west.

Tom Servo
Feb 14, 2008, 5:30 AM
in life, i love 3 things: dawn, buildings, and trains. great photo HARRY!!

honte
Feb 14, 2008, 5:35 AM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/DSC_feb08-1.jpg

What a beautiful scene, cbot.

Looking at 300 N. LaSalle, you can easily see why Mies dreamt of making skyscrapers with just the frame and nothing else.

Haworthia
Feb 14, 2008, 3:20 PM
Harryc, amazing shot. I take the train from OP everyday and I never see it that clear. Definitely not this morning. Which platform is that from?

wrab
Feb 14, 2008, 3:32 PM
Beautiful!!!

The clouds from that distance remind me of mountains in the backgrounds of cities of the west.

I was thinking the same thing - if Chicagoland had mountains, the skyline might look something like this.

Great shots, everyone. Thanks.

harryc
Feb 14, 2008, 5:01 PM
Harryc, amazing shot. I take the train from OP everyday and I never see it that clear. Definitely not this morning. Which platform is that from?

From Ridgeland on the green line

JACKinBeantown
Feb 14, 2008, 7:37 PM
That is a great shot. Does anybody have one showing all of downtown with Trump making its presence known on the skyline?

photoLith
Feb 14, 2008, 7:40 PM
Chicago is one sexy city! Much better then crappy Little rock where I live. I am going to move there someday and this forum lets me keep up to date with it all! Go Trump!

OhioGuy
Feb 14, 2008, 7:50 PM
Great photo, harry. It looks like those clouds in the background were probably lake effect snow that was developing & moving into Michigan yesterday morning.

cbotnyse
Feb 14, 2008, 8:12 PM
That is a great shot. Does anybody have one showing all of downtown with Trump making its presence known on the skyline?Here is a skyline shot I took about a month ago, it is starting to peak through.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/my%20photos/DSC_0041-1.jpg

and a render to show where it will be (I'm sorry I forgot who made that, I think ryan81)


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f21/cbotnyse/trump/skylinerender.jpg

photoLith
Feb 14, 2008, 8:17 PM
I love that render, its my computer background. Man that is awesome! I am moving there for sure!

JACKinBeantown
Feb 14, 2008, 8:59 PM
Very nice. Thanks.

BVictor1
Feb 14, 2008, 9:03 PM
02/10/08
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/02/593318.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/02/593320.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/02/593322.jpg

02/11/08
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/02/593325.jpg

02/13/08
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/02/593326.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/02/593328.jpg

chex
Feb 14, 2008, 9:10 PM
Woow! Those Are Really Nice, Thanx Very Much! I Love The Frozen River!
Firts Pic, The Canyon Looks Very Cool...

photoLith
Feb 15, 2008, 1:32 AM
wow those photos are amazing, is that one photo with the red CNA building from the same vantage as the render? It looks fimiliar. This may have already been said somewhere but how many more ft will be added until its TO?

BVictor1
Feb 15, 2008, 1:43 AM
wow those photos are amazing, is that one photo with the red CNA building from the same vantage as the render? It looks fimiliar. This may have already been said somewhere but how many more ft will be added until its TO?

Probably about 400' or so to the roof and 600' to the total top of the structure.

Knightwing
Feb 15, 2008, 1:50 AM
^^^Yea, if you multiply what they have currently completed above the last transfer floor by 4, you'll have an approximate idea of the height to the roof.

photoLith
Feb 15, 2008, 1:53 AM
Incredible, so there is still like 30 some odd floors left! Its so impressive already. Just wow!



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