[Jasper and one o nin]

The crappy US dollar has a lot to do with the transborder #'s

[Jasper and one o nin]

Do these expansion plans have anything related to Port Alberta as well or is that an entirely different project?
different project

[JAH]

So if you include the hotel and all the Port Alberta buildings/infrastructure... YEG is gonna look so much bigger and different. Exciting indeed!

[CanadianCentaur]

We still don't even have a rendering of the hotel!

Of course, I know that it's a separate project from the airport, but...

[Coldrsx]

So if you include the hotel and all the Port Alberta buildings/infrastructure... YEG is gonna look so much bigger and different. Exciting indeed!

yup....it will finally look and feel like a big city airport. Hotel will do wonders for this and the Air Links business park will make it feel more like YVR entering.

We do need a few more larger hangers though to compliment this airside.

[lubicon]

Another idiot question...

Driving by the Airport on HWY 2 - I see graders/machinery way out East of the airport... new runway? new road?

Are they staged along or near the QE2?? Aren't they supposed to start repaving that section of highway soon? Might be related to that.

[Kevin_foster]

^ Nope, from what I've seen it's set about... 400 meters (guestimate) or so west of QE2.. looks like serious land work.

Could be QE2? Seems to far back though..

[Coldrsx]

^new staff parking lot?

[CMD UW]

It could be utility upgrades / alignments. Are they stripping a large swath of land or a smaller linear section?

[whyteknight]

Just wondering if anyone wanted to add these images to the header of this thread?

http://corporate.edmontonairports.com/expansion_redevelopment/2008-2012_expansion_photo_gallery

http://corporate.edmontonairports.com/images/9/932.jpg

http://corporate.edmontonairports.com/images/9/934.jpg

http://corporate.edmontonairports.com/images/9/930.jpg

[Hooter]

I believe that the heavy work you are refering to west to the QE2 is initial prep for the expanded apron to the east of the existing terminal.

[dansk]

Airport looking great!

[feepa]

Just wondering if anyone wanted to add these images to the header of this thread?


done

[0773|=\]

With the QE2 being re-aligned (according to Alberta Transportation studies), does anyone think putting up lights along the existing alignment is a waste of money?

BTW, nice "official" announcement by YEG!

[feepa]

With the QE2 being re-aligned (according to Alberta Transportation studies), does anyone think putting up lights along the existing alignment is a waste of money?

BTW, nice "official" announcement by YEG!

I don't think its being realigned north of the Airport road though...? is it?

[0773|=\]

I don't think its being realigned north of the Airport road though...? is it?

Here's the juicy details of a Functional Planning Study, courtesy Alberta Transportation and TransTech Engineering. From the June '07 open house:

http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/INFTRA_Content/docType182/Production/QEII-BOARD-1.pdf

The rest can be found at:

http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/2615.htm

[CMD UW]

Not really. The only section that will be immediately affected is within the COE limits (area bet'n Ellerslie to 41 Ave SW). The remainder is long term (>20 years).

[EdmTrekker]

I see no problem with the lighting. Likely the older section of QE2 will remain and serve East Nisku area anyway. That would be good thing as it would create a truck access route into the industrial area.

[Jasper and one o nin]

I doubt that the realignment would happen anytime soon

[0773|=\]

I guess. The real re-alignment comes once the province builds an outer - outer ring road, as that interchange would have to be a ways west of the current QE2 alignment due to development and access requirements for that directly east of the QE2 (need some spacing away from a systems interchange.

I'll love the day when the QE2 gets filled in with a C/D system. That'll sure give Edmonton a real "big city" feel when you're approaching it from the south.

[McLovin]

Pardon my basic level of knowledge but what is c/d?
Thanks

[0773|=\]

Sorry, I have to catch myself at times... (I'm a bit of a road/transportation-geek, on top of liking skyscrapers/urban design)

C/D is short for Collector/Distributor. I could explain it at great length, but basically, all you have to do is look at HWY 401 on Google Earth as it runs through Toronto. A bunch of central "Express lanes" that miss most exits, designed for through-traffic, and they're surrounded by a bunch of lanes that hit most of the local exits in a given area, separated by either a concrete or grass median. These highways are an efficient alternative to a bypass if right of way exists, because they allow city traffic to get out of town in a hurry. The drawback is that they can be up to 18 lanes wide, and if you don't have the right of way, that's a problem.

If you've ever wondered why the QE2 has such a wide median south of the city, that's because Alberta Transportation has been planning for a C/D style of highway for some time, to separate Airport Traffic from Red Deer/Calgary bound traffic. They'd basically plow six lanes of traffic down the middle of that stretch when traffic volumes demanded that. Back when they built that stretch (late 70's) they were anticipating that Edmonton would grow much faster than it did (when we hit an 80's recession). This is one of the reasons the airport is perceived as "far away", and why we have these extremely wide ditches... no need for that size of highway... yet. But Edmonton's growing again, so these planning studies have been revised, and this is now what we're looking at in a 20-year timeframe.

[tuffyy]

For the spotters out there AeroMexico's first flight of the season from/to Cancun is arriving today.

AM 6671 CUN-YYC-YEG ARR 1720 A/C73G

AM 6672 YEG-CUN DEP 1830 A/C73G

*This is not the MX flight that starts June 1.

[McLovin]

:tup:
Thanks for explaining about C/D.

Tonight I'll be dreaming about all those lanes of highway running from Edmonton down past the airport. Gosh I wish they built it all out when they install those new lights.

[Kevin_foster]

Sorry guys, drove by the airport again early this AM and I believe the construction work I was talking about is, in fact, the terminal expansion.. I didn't realise how large it is going to be - wow!!!

[Edmonchuck]

It is huge...

[rapid_business]

Pics of current work you are describing? Tuffyy? Anyone?

[S_B_Russell]

^Sorry, didn't take any photos of it, but I drove by it this morning on my way to cowtown. Yup, it looks like a big expansion.

[Coldrsx]

www.flyeia.com


revamped brand and site

[rapid_business]

/\ Looks good.

The pictures of some of the new food outlets here (http://www.edmontonairports.com/fly_eia/new_food_beverage), what program is that created in? AutoCAD?

[tuffyy]

Yes the ground is broken for the new terminal expansion and its fully under way.The Hotel is also set to start any day now and staff are set to move to the new staff parking area.

See you all in a week, were off to China,Taiwan and Hong Kong!!!

[CMD UW]

Have a great trip...bring back some news eh.

[IKAN104]

Yes the ground is broken for the new terminal expansion and its fully under way.

I thought we weren't going to have any construction until 2009.

[240glt]

I believe the plan is to get all the apron work done in 2008, then start on the terminal expansion in 2009

[Coldrsx]

a few days old now, but should be noted:

Airport changes ready for takeoff
Five-year plan includes $1.1-billion drive to bring Edmonton facility into modern age
David Finlayson, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Friday, May 09
EDMONTON - Edmonton Airports promises to move you.

From the parkade, through the terminal and to the plane as quickly as possible.

The international airport's new brand "EIA: We'll Move You" was launched Thursday with a video, acrobats, blue T-shirts for staff and CEO Reg Milley promising a fresh commitment to customer service.


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Font:****"We want people to get through the airport as seamlessly as possible. Edmonton's changed a lot in the last five years. It's vibrant, bold, risk-taking and really confident, and our focus groups have told us we needed to get with it."

Milley said much is already being done to streamline the operation, with self check-in kiosks, park-and-go pay stations, flow-through counters, and the Nexus technology that allows members to move more quickly through U.S. border clearance.

Also in the works is a common baggage system so no matter where in the terminal you put your bag on a belt, it will get to your airplane. And further down the road new remote long-term parking for 4,000 vehicles with baggage and check-in facilities on the site.

"Edmontonians are sophisticated world travellers," Milley said. "They see what's being done at other airports and they want to see us grow and offer the same services.

"It's not going to be easy, but we're up to it. We have to earn our customers' trust and their business, and that's what the new brand is all about."

The new logo, which features a stylized delta wing soaring on blue airstream, symbolizes both the airport and the city ascending and going forward, Milley said.

Blue was chosen because people regard it as a colour they can trust, he said.

Unifying the two current baggage systems will be made possible by demolishing the current north terminal office building and NavCanada control tower, and building new facilities on the west side of the terminal adjacent to the current Gate 49.

It was a going to cost more than $25 million to renovate the 50-year-old office-tower complex and it still wouldn't accommodate NavCanada's new technology, Milley said.

Moving the complex will also make more room for food and beverage outlets, he added.

The new complex will be built as part of the $1.1-billion, five year expansion which also includes a new passenger concourse, adding 13 airplane gates to the current 17, and more parking. A total of 1,000 new parkade stalls will be completed this summer.

Milley said requests for proposals are currently going out, and he expects to have five-year alliances with contractors in place by the end of June.

The alliances will help keep costs in line and ensure a smooth construction schedule, he said. "The expansion is going to cost $1.1 billion come hell or high water."

dfinlayson@thejournal.canwest.com




© The Edmonton Journal 2008



http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/business/story.html?id=090f1b2f-abb7-4680-95e7-aafcd182ebb7

[alexis]

Keep you posted as it develops, although with maple flag just around the corner lots of good stuff in the next while.USAF C-17 in the next couple of weeks also.Always something to see...

I picked up the E-3 & 707 on my SBS...as there was no height info I thought they were flying into Cold Lake.
Earlier this week there was a Luftwaffe C-160 which flew overhead on it';s way into YVR, and then onwards to the excercise taking place in Alaska. Possible it will be stopping off here or Cold Lake on it's way back.

I see a mention of spotters on this forum now and again...are there any then, or photographers? Like to get together at some stage? I used to be, heck still am, a member of the YYZ Airport Watch..YYC has one. but YEG does not..if enough of us get together we can form one, if anyone's interested.

Cheers
Alexis

[alexis]

For the spotters out there AeroMexico's first flight of the season from/to Cancun is arriving today.

AM 6671 CUN-YYC-YEG ARR 1720 A/C73G

AM 6672 YEG-CUN DEP 1830 A/C73G

*This is not the MX flight that starts June 1.

This was operated by EI-DRD B737-752

[alexis]

Looks like the arrival/departure information on the website now lists codesharing airlines and flight numbers along with the actual airline flying and their flight number. A good revision in my mind.

And why is that may I ask?
I mean why bother showing 25 flights that do not actually exist?
As far as ATC is concerned each flight only has ONE flight number

For example a LOT flight operating from YYZ-YEG...when LOT do not fly that route....in Europe you do not get LOT advertising ACA flights from Warsaw to say Dresden...all it does is make the airport 'appear' to be busier and to be honest clogs up the arrival screens..but hey that's my opinion.....what's yours?

[CanadianCentaur]

I noticed yesterday that they're tearing up a pretty huge amont of land to the south of the airport, so I'd suppose that's the construction of the tarmac just getting started. I didn't realize the extent of the digging until I looked out of the window of the CRJ-705 as it was taking off for YVR.

[CMD UW]

/\ Yes, the grading is for the apron expansion.

[Kevin_foster]

^ That's what I was talkikng about. Crazy far south

[codeman9669]

And why is that may I ask?
I mean why bother showing 25 flights that do not actually exist?
As far as ATC is concerned each flight only has ONE flight number

For example a LOT flight operating from YYZ-YEG...when LOT do not fly that route....in Europe you do not get LOT advertising ACA flights from Warsaw to say Dresden...all it does is make the airport 'appear' to be busier and to be honest clogs up the arrival screens..but hey that's my opinion.....what's yours?

I would imagine that while it takes up numerous lines of the Arrivals/Depature screens on the website, it likely still only takes up one line on the actual Arrival/Departure screens at the airport, and just toggles between the airlines and flight number. At least, this is the way it used to be. Can anyone confirm this is still the case?

[alexis]

I would imagine that while it takes up numerous lines of the Arrivals/Depature screens on the website, it likely still only takes up one line on the actual Arrival/Departure screens at the airport, and just toggles between the airlines and flight number. At least, this is the way it used to be. Can anyone confirm this is still the case?

Fair enough, but why even display that info...As I mentioned ATC only have one flight number, the rest are just on paper
Besides, on the gate they list the ACA flight number only...if they make flight announcements they only mention the ACA flight number...imagine now that you are say Polish, can speak very little English, have a flight ticket mentioning a LOT flight number, yet the gate does not display the LOT flight number...also imagine what they must think when they board the flight expecting it to be a LOT aircraft to find it is ACA...they would think they are on the wrong flight...

The ABC flight guide has been doing similar sort of things for years..An airline could pay to have themselves listed for flights between two cities that they serve, but not directly...Finnair was a big one..they would be listed for say Bangkok to Singapore, but reading the small print you'd see it was via Helsinki....a complete waste of time.

Can you imagine a really busy airport like Heathrow listing all it's code sharing flight numbers, you'd be there for hours..it's just not practical.

[alexis]

Just noticed on the South Departures Webcam, there is a mural of what looks like a 737 taking off, over the front of the terminal...when did this go up?
Also looks like they've added some colour along the front of the rest of the building...certainly livens things up.

[feepa]

(http://www.edmontonairports.com/airport_guide/live_cam#) http://www.edmontonairports.com/FIDS/AXIS3.jpg (http://www.edmontonairports.com/airport_guide/live_cam#)

[CMD UW]

Just noticed on the South Departures Webcam, there is a mural of what looks like a 737 taking off, over the front of the terminal...when did this go up?
Also looks like they've added some colour along the front of the rest of the building...certainly livens things up.About 3 weeks ago...

[big W]

Can you imagine a really busy airport like Heathrow listing all it's code sharing flight numbers, you'd be there for hours..it's just not practical.

Actually they show both flights at Heathrow on the screens. All they do is alternate on the same line showing both codes.

[alexis]

Rafair (RRR) 3746 has just landed
It is ZD953, and L1011 of the Royal Air Force and is parked on the end of the terminal..any ideas what the aircraft next to it is? It looks as big as if not bigger than a L1011....

Thanks
Alexis

[alexis]

About 3 weeks ago...

Thanks..it was about 3 weeks since I last flew out of YEG, and I was in a awful rush then...off to Yellowknife tomorrow afternoon so I'll take a good look at it

[Jasper and one o nin]

it was revealed at the time of the rebranding May 8th

[dansk]

Just got word that your SFO goes 3X daily this fall! Good news for you guys up there.

[Coldrsx]

Just got word that your SFO goes 3X daily this fall! Good news for you guys up there.

equipment same?

either way that is great news for connection possibilities.

[Coldrsx]

CR7

7am
1:18pm
6:40pm

[CanadianCentaur]

^ at least that's better than a CRJ-200! The difference between a CRJ-705 and a -200 is like night and day.

I vaguely remember the 737 mural, but only because the driver on my Sky Shuttle trip to YEG had managed to drop off somebody's luggage at the wrong end of the airport. Sounds like a weird reason but I noticed it only when I saw the driver running back to retrieve the suitcase, and just above that line of sight, there it was. I'll have a better look at it when I fly back to YVR on or around Canada Day.

[lubicon]

^ at least that's better than a CRJ-200! The difference between a CRJ-705 and a -200 is like night and day.



Sure is. I've taken both planes (on Jazz) and there is no comparison.

YQR-YYC on a 200 ( just <1.5 hours) and didn't like it. Felt small and closed in but at least is wasn't a Dash 8).

YYC-IAH on a 705. Just <4.5 hours which is a long flight on an RJ. No real problems at all. Lots of room, very comfortable and quiet. The only issues were the bathrooms are very small, especially for a tall/large guy like me) and the window placement sucks for looking outside.

[EdmTrekker]

History-rich WWII aircraft coming to Camarillo
Nonprofit AAF flying plane in from Canada

By Rachel McGrath
Correspondent
Thursday, May 22, 2008

Five members of a Camarillo group dedicated to the preservation of historical aircraft are preparing to fly their newest acquisition back to Ventura County from Canada this week.

The men, who belong to the nonprofit American Aeronautical Foundation based at Camarillo Airport, have been in Edmonton, Alberta, working on a C-47 World War II aircraft to make it airworthy for the 10-hour flight to its new home.

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/may/22/history-rich-wwii-aircraft-coming-to-02/

[EdmTrekker]

I wonder if EAA media send news of YEG new routes and developments to international airport/airline news outlets directly. as in being proacive rather than ossue PR's and "hope" someone picks it up. Here is one interesting site that I follow and track new routes for the next vacation etc. It also as updates on airport developments.

http://www.anna.aero/2008/05/23/new-routes-launched-17-may-23-may-2008/

[S_B_Russell]

New flights link Alberta and Mexico City
Last Updated: Monday, June 2, 2008 | 1:08 PM MT CBC News
New flights linking Edmonton and Calgary to Mexico City are being welcomed by business leaders and economic development officials.

Mexicana Airways began flying four weekly return flights from Calgary on Sunday. Flights between Edmonton and Mexico City began Monday, with three weekly return trips on the schedule. It's the first time regularly scheduled service has been offered between Alberta and Mexico City.

"Last year, I flew to Mexico 24 times," said Armando Sanchez, the 33-year-old president of BidMexico International Inc., an employment broker that supplies foreign workers for Alberta's oil and gas industry.

"When we started this in 2004 with the oil and gas industry, the way to go to Mexico was to go from here to Minneapolis, wait for three hours then go to Houston, then wait three to five hours, and then fly to Mexico City.... So that was like 14 to 16 hours."

Sanchez said it has been difficult to convince oil and gas executives that Mexico can be a reliable supplier, given the difficulty of making those flight connections.

The new service will mean about five hours to travel between Alberta and Mexico City, he said.

Kenn Bur, with Economic Development Edmonton also welcomed the new flights, not only for business links but for tourism as well.

"Even though many people think Mexico is a third world or second world country, nonetheless its economy is growing and it's middle class is expanding rapidly and that leads to more tourism travel."

In the past, flights to Mexico have been aimed at sun-seeking tourists, with charters to places like Cancun and Los Cabos.

The new flights depart Calgary every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, with return flights Tuesday, Thursday Saturday and Sunday.

The flights from Edmonton depart Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, returning Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/06/02/edm-mexico-flights.html

[S_B_Russell]

From Hicks on Six

ANOTHER LANGUAGE AT THE AIRPORT

There's an unfamiliar language coming over the public address system at Edmonton International Airport.

Listen closely. There's lots of "ha's" and rolled r's. It's Spanish!

Another step on Edmonton's journey towards internationalism.

Air Mexicana is here. Flight No. 875 leaves Edmonton three days a week at 8:20 a.m., arriving almost six hours later, non-stop, in Mexico City. (The other four days, the solid 120-passenger Airbus 319 does the Calgary-Mexico City route.)

NO MORE ALL-DAY, ALL-NIGHT TRAVEL

The inaugural flight left yesterday morning. On board, with some other 80 passengers, were folks involved with tourism and business promotion, whose job it is to spread the word about business opportunities and tourism - both ways - between Edmonton and Mexico. People like Edmonton Economic Development Corporation president Ron Gilbertson, Edmonton Tourism's Ken Fiske, chamber of commerce and World Trade Centre Edmonton president Marty Salloum.

The "pioneers" - the members of the city's Latino community who've lived in northern Alberta for years - are delighted. It used to take Susana Runge and Beatriz Kelly of the Mexican Cultural Society of Edmonton 12 to 14 hours to fly home for a visit.

Now that time is halved. Get on a plan, have a snooze, watch a movie, eat, catch up with a few magazines and then ... you're in Mexico City. From there, late afternoon flights depart for all of Mexico's tourism areas and the major cities of South America.

FOREIGN WORKERS

There are some interesting understated reasons that this flight could become a fixture for many, many years.

Foreign Worker programs set up by the provincial and federal governments to alleviate Alberta labour shortages are just getting underway. Not a day goes by when you don't hear of a spa manufacturer, or a manufactured home maker, or a fast-food chain, bringing in Mexican or Filipino workers who, in a few years' time, will have a chance to apply to become landed immigrants.

Something tells me a good 40% of this flight will be Mexicans on those programs going back and forth, and their family coming north to see what Canada is all about.

MUCH EASIER TO VISIT

Another implicit reason for Air Mexicana to spread its wings, now flying into five Canadian cities non-stop from Mexico City.

Mexicans often get hassled at airport customs when going through the United States. "You can usually count on an extra hour or two getting through American customs," says Mexicana customer service V.P. Adolfo Crespo, accompanying the Edmonton group on the flight.

It's understandable. With millions of illegal Mexicans working in the U.S., Yankee border guards and customs folks are a bit touchy.

Mexican tourists can fly to Edmonton to holiday with no more hassles than any Canadian. They don't need a visa to come to Canada. And Canadians flying to Mexico don't need a visa or a passport.

Return tickets on this flight run around $600 - comparable to charters.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS

Having just arrived - hopping on a small bus from the airport to our hotel here in Mexico City, some first impressions.

The extreme poverty of about 10 years ago is gone. "That was one legacy of the past Vicente Fox government," says Crespo. "There's still poverty, of course, but extreme street poverty has been reduced by some 40%."

Mexico, a country of 105 million, has made great strides. The population of Greater Mexico City, for instance, has stabilized at around 22 million for several years. Like China, Mexico has become a low-cost assembler of goods destined for the U.S., creating more jobs.

Not to be discounted are the numerous Mexicans working in the U.S. and sending money back home. It all counts.

"We still need a bigger middle class," suggests Crespo. "Of the population, about 5% (or six million people) are using air transport." But that number will keep on growing.

More on Mexico tomorrow.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Hicks_Graham/2008/06/03/5763766-sun.html

[tuffyy]

Volga Dnepr IL-76 at YEG today on a military charter.It has departed for Ontario California.

Also 2 AN-124's expected later today or early tomorrow.

[EdmTrekker]

Is it good or bad that Mexicana may align with Westjet? Code share?? or funnel through...

Mexicana Airlines swoops into Calgary
Flight fuels talk of deal with WestJet
Gina Teel, Calgary Herald
Published: Tuesday, June 03, 2008
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/calgarybusiness/story.html?id=b3d0dd74-47fe-4a70-bcfd-3428f8eb724f

Mexicana Airlines' new Mexico City to Calgary route is off to a good start, with the inaugural flight arriving fully booked -- and its officials already talking code-share possibilities with WestJet Airlines Ltd.

Adolfo Crespo, Mexicana's vice-president customer service and corporate communications, said the airlines are talking.

"As a matter of fact, we are talking to WestJet to see how we can code-share and work together," Crespo said following a media event to mark the launch of the route.

[ExcaliburKid]

^Knowing the way airlines work in Alberta....
Although WestJet has been pretty good to YEG, so who knows. It's just talk anyway.

[Jasper and one o nin]

So any news on Port Alberta....?

[tuffyy]

It would be more to feed YEG and YYC from cities like YQR,YXE,YWG,YLW etc.

No effect on our flights other than offering more feed to Mexicana.

Port Alberta news to come.

[Hooter]

Hi Tuffyy,

Any idea when we will hear some news on Port Alberta, days, months, years..
Its been very quiet on the outside looking in.

Cheers...:tup:

[tuffyy]

There will be developments this year,

Just completed a big trip to the far east.Its a train that is starting to roll...

:cool:

[Jasper and one o nin]

^and that is why we are prodding

[EdmTrekker]

Air Canada tops Orange County airport waiting list

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/airport-john-airlines-2061988-wayne-canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_California

[tuffyy]

Not much of a secret anymore so I can fill you all in on what is now becoming public knowledge.

-WestJet is expected to announce YEG-EWR once the new Slot times are handed out by the New York port Authority.

-Westie is also expected to add YEG-LAX.

The talks are done in those matters, and well Mr.Hicks left a few teasers...

[MalcolmTucker]

:previous:

Wow that author is pretty ignorant about US pre-clearance type stuff. Guess he has never flown to and from Canada.

As for EWR - great news! Slots being freed by the USA airline collapse should bring even more new destinations (hopefully).

[Coldrsx]

Not much of a secret anymore so I can fill you all in on what is now becoming public knowledge.

-WestJet is expected to announce YEG-EWR once the new Slot times are handed out by the New York port Authority.

-Westie is also expected to add YEG-LAX.

The talks are done in those matters, and well Mr.Hicks left a few teasers...

two important routes...that is great to hear!:tup:

[S_B_Russell]

Getting direct service to NYC is great news.

[Rocket252]

Not much of a secret anymore so I can fill you all in on what is now becoming public knowledge.

-WestJet is expected to announce YEG-EWR once the new Slot times are handed out by the New York port Authority.

-Westie is also expected to add YEG-LAX.

The talks are done in those matters, and well Mr.Hicks left a few teasers...

NICE!!!

I like it!!

[Jasper and one o nin]

schweet!

[CMD UW]

Yea, great news for YEG. I am excited about the EWR route. Nice to see that AC will have some LAX competition. I wished that US Airways never dropped the LAX route a few years ago.

[tuffyy]

I suspect it will be announced in the fall schedules, but that is entirely upto WestJet.

[Coldrsx]

good news for Edmonton

CITY-PAIR DESIGNATIONS FOR AIR SERVICES BETWEEN CANADA AND MEXICO UPDATED JUNE 9, 2008 -----------------------------------------------------------------

The 1961 Canada - Mexico bilateral Air Transport Agreement, as amended in
1999 and 2007, governs scheduled air services between the two countries.
In addition to existing city-pairs for which carriers have already been
designated, the following city-pair designations for scheduled air transport
services from Canada to Mexico have been granted pursuant to the
recently-expanded agreement:

Air Canada:

- Vancouver-Huatulco
- Calgary-Huatulco
- Edmonton-Huatulco
- Edmonton-Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo
- Edmonton-Puerto Vallarta
- Edmonton-San Jose del Cabo(*)
- Winnipeg-Puerto Vallarta(*)
- Toronto-Huatulco
- Montreal-Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo

Air Transat:

- Victoria-Cancun
- Vancouver-Huatulco
- Vancouver-San Jose del Cabo
- Kelowna-Puerto Vallarta
- Calgary-Huatulco
- Calgary-Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo
- Calgary-San Jose del Cabo
- Edmonton-Huatulco
- Edmonton-Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo
- Edmonton-San Jose del Cabo
- Regina-Manzanillo
- Saskatoon-Manzanillo
- Winnipeg-Cancun
- Winnipeg-Manzanillo
- London-Cancun
- Kitchener-Cancun
- Hamilton-Cancun
- Toronto-Huatulco
- Ottawa-Cancun
- Québec-Puerto Vallarta
- St. John's-Cancun

WestJet:

- Vancouver-Cancun(*)
- Vancouver-Mazatlan
- Vancouver-Puerto Vallarta(*)
- Calgary-Cancun(*)
- Calgary-Puerto Vallarta
- Edmonton-Cancun
- Edmonton-Puerto Vallarta
- Winnipeg-Cancun(*)
- Winnipeg-Mazatlan
- Winnipeg-Puerto Vallarta
- Toronto-Cancun(*)
- Toronto-Puerto Vallarta(*)
- Montreal-Cancun
- Halifax-Cancun

Skyservice:

- Edmonton-Cancun(*)
- Toronto-Cancun(*)
- Toronto-Puerto Vallarta
- Ottawa-Cancun(*)
- Halifax-Cancun(*)

Sunwing:

- Vancouver-Cancun
- Vancouver-Mazatlan
- Vancouver-Puerto Vallarta
- Calgary-Cancun
- Calgary-Puerto Vallarta(*)
- Edmonton-Puerto Vallarta(*)
- Winnipeg-Cancun
- Winnipeg-Puerto Vallarta
- Toronto-Cancun
- Toronto-Cozumel
- Toronto-San Jose del Cabo
- Montreal-Cancun
- Montreal-Puerto Vallarta
- Québec-Cancun
- St. John's-Cancun

(*)Effective December 9, 2009

Cargojet to operate scheduled own-aircraft all-cargo air services on
three routes immediately:

- Hamilton-Guadalajara
- Hamilton-Mexico City
- Hamilton-Monterrey

[EdmTrekker]

AC does not fly to PV from YEG now...routes planes through YYC. What is the point in AC grabbing city pairs if is going to provide one-stop flights and not non-stop. Tuffy...can you cut through the Mexico bilateral Air Transport Agreement bullshit of the pairs and tell us which flights are non-stop or do they even have to be. If not then High Level and PV are also pairs...

[CanadianCentaur]

The stuff about expected new flights to EWR and LAX sounds great!

But it would be even better if they actually did materialize - unlike the rumours regarding FRA and the like.

[tuffyy]

We will see some new stuff to the south this winter.These are already confirmed NEW additions.

-Air transat adds Montego bay starting in December.
-Sunwing adds Las vegas,Huatulco Mexico and Holguin Cuba.
-Skyservice adds Cozumel weekly as oppose to bi-weekly like last year,Samana D.R,La romana D.R, and also adds Holguin Cuba.

Some other sun tour operators are yet to announce additions for 08/09.

[Jasper and one o nin]

the growth seems to be slowing...

Highlights

¨ Overall 533,766 passengers (May) and 2,609,709 (YTD)

¨ Domestic 440,681 passengers (May) and 2,010,155 (YTD)

¨ Transborder 76,700 passengers (May) and 389,297 (YTD)

¨ International 16,385 passengers (May) and 210,257 (YTD)

Growth%

¨ Overall 5.9% (May) and 7.4% (YTD)

¨ Domestic 4.4% (May) and 4.5% (YTD)

¨ Transborder 19.6% (May) and 13.4% (YTD)

¨ International -6.7% (May) and 29.1% (YTD)

[Coldrsx]

slowing as we predicted yes, but those are still MASSIVE numbers for "normal growth" (overall/dom/trans)

[Jasper and one o nin]

transborder is stong, and that IS important. I suspect that growth for most airports have slowed due to price increases

[dansk]

Why is International down? Less flights? Or less loads? That seems to be bad.

[Rocket252]

All the southern sun flights have stopped in May

[Coldrsx]

didnt someone mention the loss of Martinair from last year?

[Jasper and one o nin]

we have been seeing strong growth in international because LHR went 7 days a week april 07. SO the comparisons now are more balanced than they were before. I suspect that will change now that MEX is off and running

[Aeturneus]

I love that I can fly direct to London. I don't love the fuel surcharge :yuck:

[tuffyy]

^Not all the sun flights have ended.

-WestJet is serving Cancun and Puerto Vallarta for the summer on behalf of Transat holidays.

-AeroMexico is serving Cancun on behalf of Sunwing vacations for the summer.

[dansk]

What is not flying now at this time (May 2008) compared to May 2007

[rapid_business]

People with poor credit, tight wallets and big trucks.... :haha:

[tuffyy]

What is not flying are;

-Martinair twice weekly to AMS.

-Zoom weekly to LGW, although Air Transat is still serving LGW and has upgraded from a A310 to a larger A330 to cover the extra seats with Zoom pulling out.

Thats it.

[dansk]

Does that amount to a 6% decrease?

[ExcaliburKid]

I understand that US Airways is dropping LAS.....worst. Good thing theres still other options though.

[rapid_business]

That sucks. I wonder what capacity they were flying at? I've flown that flight a couple times too...

[ExcaliburKid]

I think it has to do with night flights or something? They are keeping PHX though.

[CMD UW]

US Air YEG-LAS route had great numbers, the cut is part of US Airways cancellation of most night routes network-wide. I expect to see more of this happen to other ports across the country.

[oilfan]

Go to CHED's website and take part in the poll! Vote to shut it down!

[Jasper and one o nin]

http://www.air4casts.com/latestaport/latestap.php?recordID=DME&Submit=go
interesting site

[Jasper and one o nin]

Didnt Ched do a poll about two or three months ago????????
What?, are they hoping the results will be different? Dead horse, quit beating it and close the ******* thing already