[ExcaliburKid]

The Marriot Hotel is going out for tender very soon. We have a copy of the specs here in our office, though I havent had a chance to look at them yet.

[ExcaliburKid]

dp

[Coldrsx]

Booming Edmonton International setting new records monthly
Leaves Vancouver in its contrail as a destination for WestJet flights

Gary Lamphier
The Edmonton Journal

Tuesday, July 17, 2007

EDMONTON - Canada's fastest growing major airport? It's no contest -- Edmonton International Airport takes the crown.

In fact, June was the busiest month on record for EIA, with nearly 508,000 passengers shuffling through the terminal.

That marked the 18th straight month of double-digit growth, says Edmonton Airports CEO Reg Milley, and an eye-popping 22.2-per-cent increase over June 2006, when 416,000 travellers enjoyed the airport.

On a year-to-date basis, traffic volumes rose an impressive 18.7 per cent, to well over 2.9 million, EIA says. Calgary International Airport, the nation's second-fastest growing major airport, posted traffic growth of 10.6 per cent in the first five months of 2007, to nearly 4.9 million passengers.

At current growth rates, Milley figures Edmonton could hit the six- million-passenger mark for 2007.

After mapping out the airport's long-term projections, he's also forecasting double-digit growth rates to continue for the next five years.

"The growth we're seeing is just outstanding. Edmontonians and people throughout the region are really responding to the increases in air service," he says, including more flights to U.S. cities and Air Canada's successful non-stop daily service to London, launched last year.

"In 2006 we added a lot of new destinations -- more than probably any other city in the last decade. That's really helping us to drive traffic," says Milley.

In May, Edmonton topped Vancouver as WestJet's third-largest hub in Canada, in terms of seating capacity. Edmonton now trails only Toronto and Calgary.

"WestJet has just been a fantastic partner for us, as has Air Canada. They've added new destinations, increased capacity and are really working with us on making sure the Edmonton region grows."

Passenger traffic on connecting flights from Grande Prairie, Yellowknife, Fort McMurray and Saskatoon is also up in a big way, rising 42 per cent in 2006, versus 2005. The uptrend is continuing in 2007, Milley says.

"We're seeing our catchment area expand. If you walk through our parkade or parking lot you'll see a lot of Saskatchewan licence plates now. We're getting a lot of people driving in and connecting in Edmonton, so our profile is changing," he says.

On a year-to-date basis, domestic passenger volumes are up 15.3 per cent; U.S. traffic is up 21.3 per cent; and international traffic is up 77.7 per cent.

The latter reflects the impact of Air Canada's non-stop service to Heathrow Airport, as well as strong traffic growth to Mexico -- the top destination for international travellers -- and other vacation hot spots.

International flights have quadrupled since last summer, jumping to 12 departures per week from just three, and Milley says he's hoping to add flights to Texas, New York and either Frankfurt or Munich in the coming year.

Despite its growth, Milley says EIA could do even better if it was able to attract more of the roughly one million local passengers annually who opt to fly from airports in Calgary or Vancouver, rather than Edmonton.

"Every time somebody buys a ticket they cast a vote, and they either vote for the airport in their region or another one. And if you connect through, or drive to another airport you're not going to help us see air service grow here. The more people in the region utilize the airport, the more direct destinations we'll get."

With EIA expecting to achieve new record passenger volumes in July and August, and the terminal already running above its design capacity, Milley says travellers should allow an extra 15 minutes for parking, check-in and clearing security this summer.

Airport expansion is now underway with 1,000 new parkade stalls being added, as well as new de-icing pads and aircraft parking space. Additional terminal construction is slated to start some-time in 2008.

I love Toronto. It's a great city. We lived there for a decade, and know it well. Our kids were born there, and my wife and I began our careers there. Nearly 20 years after leaving Toronto, we still miss the big-city vibe and cultural vitality of our old haunts on Bloor Street West, Queen Street, The Beaches and Bayview Avenue.

But like any city, Toronto has its flaws. It can be smug, self-satisfied and arrogant. Too many Torontonians -- including a lot of media types -- know next to nothing about the rest of Canada. Including Edmonton.

Occasionally, their collective ignorance is reflected in the pages of the so-called national (read: Toronto) press. Witness a piece on urban thinker Richard Florida that ran in last Tuesday's Globe and Mail.

After extolling the virtues of Canada's other major cities as havens for hip, creative people, the Globe slagged Alberta's capital city as an industrial backwater. To add insult to injury, the Globe ran a photo of an oilsands mine near Fort McMurray -- as if that somehow represented Edmonton.

There's only one word for coverage like that: pathetic.

glamphier@thejournal.canwest.com
© The Edmonton Journal 2007

[Klaus Doberman]

Amazing.... EIG is just booming. Every month it seems to get better.

[Coldrsx]

this is pretty amazing:

"In May, Edmonton topped Vancouver as WestJet's third-largest hub in Canada, in terms of seating capacity. Edmonton now trails only Toronto and Calgary."

[Klaus Doberman]

Edmonton if it keeps going at the current rate will be in between 6.5 and 7.0 Million this year. That isn't too far fetched. Absolutely astonishing considering 5 years ago we were around 3 Million and EIG predicted that 7 Million wouldn't happen until 2012-2015..... wow.

[Coldrsx]

^i suspect we will hit 6.2 million this year and 7.5 next yr.

[brento79]

Actually they predicted 5.5 by 2015. 7 million is the max capacity of the current terminal.

[Coldrsx]

^max given the current config, but id guess they can create efficiencies.

[murman]

7 million is the max capacity of the current terminal.

Even if we're closing in on that #, I've never felt near-capacity at the gates. Check-in and security are another matter. Check-in is especially atrocious at AC. Two wickets for how many HUNDREDS of people?

[chuber]

"Every time somebody buys a ticket they cast a vote, and they either vote for the airport in their region or another one. And if you connect through, or drive to another airport you're not going to help us see air service grow here. The more people in the region utilize the airport, the more direct destinations we'll get."


I agree with this quote 110%

I avoid Calgary and Toronto airports like the plague. I will always go from Edmonton to a US location (usually Denver) then to wherever I need to go.


Now for another direct flight request: ANYWHERE IN FLORIDA

Seriously, no direct flights to Florida. It seems like a no brainer. And WestJet can lick my sack because to get to Florida with them you have to travel to Toronto and then to Florida and the total cost for 2 with taxes is $1700+ which is crazy. Plus it typically takes 12 hours with the layover. I ended up booking with Northwest for 634 for 2 all taxes in! Edmonton to Minneapolis and then Minneapolis to Orlando, and a total time of about 7 hours. So much better, but direct would be better still.

[tuffyy]

Frankfurt or Munich in the coming year....Sounds like LH as they are slated for expansion from FRA and MUC over the next year as they take delivery of more A330's.Also AC does not serve MUC, wich would indicate LH.Not to mention that A LH rep was recently at a EAA function.

[murman]

Now for another direct flight request: ANYWHERE IN FLORIDA

We don't have direct to Florida from YVR... always have to transfer in Denver.

[chuber]

I am surprised at that. I guess most people in the west just head straight south. But the travel agent told me lots of people from Edmonton head down there. You would think they could support a direct flight.

[Kevin_foster]

I agree... if you can take a direct flight to Amsterdam or London from YEG - for sure you should be able to fly to Tampa direct...

Although I'd probably never go to Florida :P

[CMD UW]

Frankfurt or Munich in the coming year....Sounds like LH as they are slated for expansion from FRA and MUC over the next year as they take delivery of more A330's.Also AC does not serve MUC, wich would indicate LH.Not to mention that A LH rep was recently at a EAA function.
A flight to Munich would be stellar.

[Coldrsx]

those recent numbers, where people go, indicate a florida flight should work well...perhaps a YVR-YEG-MIA?

[Rocket252]

A Flight to Fort Lauderdale would be perfect.

Tie into the Cruise lines - although it would have to be a daily one. More reliable than 3 times per week like Calgary

[LO 044]

Frankfurt or Munich in the coming year....Sounds like LH as they are slated for expansion from FRA and MUC over the next year as they take delivery of more A330's.Also AC does not serve MUC, wich would indicate LH.Not to mention that A LH rep was recently at a EAA function.
The Munich quote surprised me as well. This sounds more like Lufthansa than Air Canada. LH is trying to strengthen it's Munich hub but i could not see them starting a YEG-MUC route. YEG-FRA is a better possibility and one that makes more sense to me.

I think the Edmonton Mayor and anyone else with significant pull should be kissing LH's ass to get a YEG-FRA flight here.

Chuber you are too funny with your comments about WestJet. I agree though. They are no real bargain anymore. I actually prefer AC to WJ overall.

[Coldrsx]

Edmonton International Airport passenger growth sets torrid pace

NEWS RELEASE July 17, 2007

Edmonton International Airport – Canada’s fastest-growing major airport – continues to record unprecedented passenger growth rates in 2007.

June 2007 was the busiest month on a per-day basis in Edmonton International’s history with 507,949 passengers, representing a 22.2 per cent increase from June 2006 when 415,822 passengers were served. Year-to-date passenger volumes have increased by 18.7 per cent.

“We are now in our 18th consecutive month of double-digit growth,” says Reg Milley, Edmonton Airports President and CEO. “What’s even more remarkable is that the entire airport community has rallied to respond to this record-breaking growth and our staff continues to provide top customer service to our many customers.”

International growth leads pack

Edmonton International is posting double-digit percentage passenger volume increases in all major market segments.

Domestic – 20.7% (June) and 15.3% (year-to-date)
U.S. – 12.2% (June) and 21.3% (year-to-date)
International –182.9% (June) and 77.7% (year-to-date)
The more than twofold increase in international passengers from June 2006 to June 2007 is driven by Air Canada’s non-stop service to London-Heathrow. Other international destinations are also on a major upswing. In the first half of 2007, Mexico continued its growth as the largest and fastest growing international destination for Edmonton, and most other sun destinations showed triple-digit increases over 2006. International flights have quadrupled since last summer, jumping to 12 departures per week from three.

On the domestic side, Sunwing’s new non-stop Toronto service and Air Canada’s summer non-stop service to Halifax helped propel domestic traffic to new highs. WestJet continues to expand rapidly at Edmonton International with almost 40 per cent of all seats dispatched belonging to the Alberta-based airline. Edmonton International also replaced Vancouver earlier in the spring as WestJet’s third largest hub.

From July 1, 2006 to June 30, 2007, almost 5.7 million passengers used Edmonton International.

“With July and August expected to be our busiest ever, we are on track to reach or surpass six million passengers in 2007,” says Milley. “The current terminal was built to handle 5.5 million passengers, so we are asking for everyone’s patience and support as we keep pace with this extraordinary growth.”

Passengers can ease their experience by arriving at the airport at least 15 minutes prior the airline-recommended check-in time to park, check-in and clear security.

Airport expansion is already underway with a 1,000 new parkade stalls currently under construction, as well as new de-icing pads and aircraft parking space. Planning continues for the terminal with additional construction slated to commence sometime in 2008.

“We have the best air service in our region’s history and we can make it even better by encouraging regional residents to always choose Edmonton International for their air travel needs,” Milley says.

For the latest flight and travel information, visit www.edmontonairports.com.

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[rapid_business]

So I just cast my vote.... locally that is. Going to YYZ next week. Tell me this, is there enough demand for a YKF flight from Edmonton, or does the fact that WJ did a once-a-day from Calgary fulfill the provinces needs for connection to KW?

[CMD UW]

/\ Well, WJ usually starts service via YYC.

You may see YEG-YKF in the future.

[Edmonchuck]

Westjet will ALWAYS launch YYC service first.

[Coldrsx]

oh and i forgot to mention that saturday at 2pm i had to pick my pops up from YEG and from downtown (99ave/105st) to YEG going across high level- calgary trail....door to door it was 28mins......i budgeted 45.

[tuffyy]

^Considering YEG is now only 10 minutes from the southside of the city it really cant be called leduc international anymore...Watch for the Xjet announcement in a few days, Supposed to be announced in a week or so from what was heared from airport talk around the airport.

[brento79]

So that is still a go? I was reading airliners.net today and couldn't tell if it was.

I am not sure about those small planes. If anything hopefully it causes some competition.

[brento79]

Icelandair to Expand Canadian Service with Open Skies Agreement
Thursday July 19, 4:40 pm ET


COLUMBIA, Md., July 19 /PRNewswire/ -- The governments of Iceland and Canada have signed an Open Skies agreement to permit scheduled air services for passenger and all-cargo traffic between Canada and Iceland, effective immediately. The new agreement replaces the Memorandum of Understanding on Air Services that has allowed operations to Canada by Icelandair, the flag carrier of Iceland, since 1995.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070719/neth108.html?.v=9

[rapid_business]

/\ cool! I've always wanted to visit Iceland. Probably a once-a-day flight from YYZ?

[piper]

I believe they will fly in and out of Halifax

[brento79]

both yhz and yyz to start

[Jasper and one o nin]

Just came into town from heathrow. Second time I used that flight. First time there and back the plane was the shits. This time going there it was the same shitty plane but coming back, WOW - different plane. If its not a new plane, the interior was certainly new. On demand seatback TV's and first class seats that fold into layout beds. AC's service was exceptional too. Im guessing a plane or two was freed up when AC aquired their 777's.
One thing that pissed me off going through customs - there was only 3 immigration/customs officers. After 9 hours on a plane - it was another 50 minutes waiting in line. Everyone around me was pissed - heard some people make comments like "its not this bad in Calgary"
Lots of Brits on the flight which was nice to see - and the flight was packed there and back

[CMD UW]

/\ great news. Yea, given the number of TB and Int'l flights, you'd figure they would staff up accordingly.

[Jasper and one o nin]

I was in Moscow, which apparently is the most expensive city in the world to live - but anyway - I used both of Moscow's major airports Sheremetyevo and Domodedovo - both of which are undergoing major expansion. I read about Sheremetyevo's and they are spending 310 million dollars. This will increase their terminal 2 pax capacity from 8 million to 18 million. Pretty major expansion. Yet, our 200 million dollar expansion gets us 1000 more cars in the parkade and little dink for a terminal expansion which will take us from 5.5 million capacity to 7.5 million. Milney is quoted as saying we will see double digit increases for the next 5 years. So if we have 18% this year and 10% for the next 5 years - by 2012, YEG's passenger numbers would be somewhere around 9.5 million. I dont get it. I know im not comparing apples to apples, but why is it so expensive, and why are we not planning for the anticipated growth?

[S_B_Russell]

Those new AC 777 rule! I took one a few weeks ago on my way back from Frankfurt. It has the coolest 1st class section I've ever seen.

[Hardhatdan]

I was in Moscow, which apparently is the most expensive city in the world to live - but anyway - I used both of Moscow's major airports Sheremetyevo and Domodedovo - both of which are undergoing major expansion. I read about Sheremetyevo's and they are spending 310 million dollars. This will increase their terminal 2 pax capacity from 8 million to 18 million. Pretty major expansion. Yet, our 200 million dollar expansion gets us 1000 more cars in the parkade and little dink for a terminal expansion which will take us from 5.5 million capacity to 7.5 million. Milney is quoted as saying we will see double digit increases for the next 5 years. So if we have 18% this year and 10% for the next 5 years - by 2012, YEG's passenger numbers would be somewhere around 9.5 million. I dont get it. I know im not comparing apples to apples, but why is it so expensive, and why are we not planning for the anticipated growth?

Labour and materials are very expensive right now. Most projects are being bid to include numerous overtime hours do to labour shortages and materials continue to escalate in cost at a staggering rate.
200 million today is probably worth about 500 million 5 years ago.

[Jeffsey500]

I was in Moscow, which apparently is the most expensive city in the world to live - but anyway - I used both of Moscow's major airports Sheremetyevo and Domodedovo - both of which are undergoing major expansion. I read about Sheremetyevo's and they are spending 310 million dollars. This will increase their terminal 2 pax capacity from 8 million to 18 million. Pretty major expansion. Yet, our 200 million dollar expansion gets us 1000 more cars in the parkade and little dink for a terminal expansion which will take us from 5.5 million capacity to 7.5 million. Milney is quoted as saying we will see double digit increases for the next 5 years. So if we have 18% this year and 10% for the next 5 years - by 2012, YEG's passenger numbers would be somewhere around 9.5 million. I dont get it. I know im not comparing apples to apples, but why is it so expensive, and why are we not planning for the anticipated growth?
Say "Pip Pip Cheerio" to the Alberta Labour Market.

[CMD UW]

I was in Moscow, which apparently is the most expensive city in the world to live - but anyway - I used both of Moscow's major airports Sheremetyevo and Domodedovo - both of which are undergoing major expansion. I read about Sheremetyevo's and they are spending 310 million dollars. This will increase their terminal 2 pax capacity from 8 million to 18 million. Pretty major expansion. Yet, our 200 million dollar expansion gets us 1000 more cars in the parkade and little dink for a terminal expansion which will take us from 5.5 million capacity to 7.5 million. Milney is quoted as saying we will see double digit increases for the next 5 years. So if we have 18% this year and 10% for the next 5 years - by 2012, YEG's passenger numbers would be somewhere around 9.5 million. I dont get it. I know im not comparing apples to apples, but why is it so expensive, and why are we not planning for the anticipated growth?
There are many reasons, primarily cost of labour. Labour is cheaper in Russia than it is in North America, particularly Alberta.

[brento79]

Regarding your new 767, that is a the reburbished aircraft...they should all be that way by next year.

[Coldrsx]

was at YEG an hour ago...the parkade is humming along nicely.

i really hope they add 2-3 lanes for entering departures and another leaving...1 lane is quite tight sometimes and dangerous when busy/weather.

[CanadianCentaur]

Say "Pip Pip Cheerio" to the Alberta Labour Market.

Or better yet, do svedanya and udachi to Alberta's labour market. :D

[rapid_business]

I used YEG this past week out to YYZ and back. Here are some thoughts...

- Are we that under-staffed that it takes the luggage handlers 35 min. to get luggage on a carousel at 1 a.m. from a domestic, or is this normal?
- We need more security clearances. It's nothing but a mess.
- Why does it feel like AC has our hands tied when it comes to potential destination choices?

[CMD UW]

I used YEG this past week out to YYZ and back. Here are some thoughts...

- Are we that under-staffed that it takes the luggage handlers 35 min. to get luggage on a carousel at 1 a.m. from a domestic, or is this normal?
- We need more security clearances. It's nothing but a mess.
- Why does it feel like AC has our hands tied when it comes to potential destination choices?

I've sat on the tarmac for 20minutes at YYZ waiting for crews to arrive at the gate. This and other delays happen in most airports.

I've actually found our security to be prompt and easy.

How was your trip to KW?

[Coldrsx]

i have always found security here to be much better than YYZ and especially YVR.

baggage is about the same, but yeg is a little slower...partially because you have a short off plane to baggage walk.

I am flying to YYZ tomo and will comment on both soon.

[tuffyy]

^If your flying AC expect delays at most airports handled by actual AC ground staff as the company is understaffed and also suffers from the labour shortage.I have watched a AC A320 sit on the apron waiting for a parking spot for almost 20 minutes before at YEG.

[rapid_business]

Also, I flew back on a new E190.... pretty nice interior.

[Rocket252]

I see Winnipeg is getting a visit from an AC 777 today. What happened to our 777 arrival that was cancelled a few months ago?

[brento79]

Live All Year at Edmonton International Airport
NEWS RELEASE Aug. 1, 2007

Edmonton Festival City in a Box has arrived at Edmonton International Airport, and it’s packed full of entertainment for airport guests.

Greater Edmonton is proud to host over 30 festivals throughout the year, drawing many tourists to the area. However, festivals aren’t the only thing attracting people to the city. Edmonton was named the 2007 Cultural Capital of Canada, and FIFA brought world-class soccer to Commonwealth Stadium this summer.

Edmonton International decided to take part in the excitement, partnering with Edmonton Festival City in a Box, an Edmonton Tourism initiative supported by TransAlta, to develop a live theming program called Live All Year at Edmonton International Airport.

The program is designed to transform the normal airport experience into a fun, vibrant experience by bringing live performances, interactive activities, and artistic displays to the terminal to promote Edmonton’s many festivals and special events. For example, jugglers, stilt walkers and other entertainers were at EIA during the Street Performers Festival, and foosball tables were placed throughout the terminal to honour the FIFA U-20 Men’s World Soccer Championship.

“Edmonton International is essentially the front porch to our city and region,” says Ken Fiske, Vice President, Tourism, Events and Motion Pictures, Edmonton Economic Development Corporation, speaking about Edmonton International’s involvement with Festival City in a Box.

“The live performance program at the International is a great way to showcase Edmonton’s talent – what a tremendous first impression for our guests.”

As Edmonton continues to grow, the airport is getting busier. An estimated 10 million people will walk through the airport’s doors this year, whether they are coming, going, picking-up or dropping-off. Passengers are spending more time at EIA to ensure they clear security and make their flights on time. The live theming will keep airport customers entertained, and give them a sampling of the Edmonton festival scene and the region’s energetic culture.

Don’t worry; the fun won’t end anytime soon. Expect Live All Year at Edmonton International Airport to last beyond 2007.

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[tarapoto]

I used YEG this past week out to YYZ and back. Here are some thoughts...

- Are we that under-staffed that it takes the luggage handlers 35 min. to get luggage on a carousel at 1 a.m. from a domestic, or is this normal?
- We need more security clearances. It's nothing but a mess.
- Why does it feel like AC has our hands tied when it comes to potential destination choices?

I might be able to provide some insight, I work for AC ground in Calgary. There is a chance that you flew in an Embraer or a A319. In that case it takes a lot longer to offload all the luggage because the luggage is not in containers, and the compartments are so small that it is very difficult to offload the luggage very fast at all. And we are very short staffed and unfortunately many of the staff we do have are lazy and won't help because of their seniority (damn union), many times I have had to work on those planes with a 3 man crew, standard crew should be 4 and even then it takes a long time to offload those types of aircraft. I have even had to do 319's with only 2 people. That takes a good 45 minutes if it's full. Especially if you came in at 1am there are easily enough people to do it quickly but even if they have 3 crews on at that time inevitably two of the crews will be sitting around doing nothing, because they are not assigned to that flight, so very poor time and manpower management by the operation control centre is also a factor

[Rocket252]

New web site is up.

[CanadianCentaur]

The NEW Edmonton Airports website: http://www.edmontonairports.com/

It's not bad. Simple but laid out way better and easier to navigate. The flight info is out front - not hidden like it was in the old site.

[Rocket252]

I see the Calgary Airport thread has pics of the 777 when it arrived there.

any news on it coming to YEG?

[tuffyy]

^The 777 visit to YEG has been cancelled,not being rescheduled either.YYC gets the 777 for the month then it goes on the YUL-CDG route for good.Anybody see the AeroMexico 757 at YEG? It comes in every week until the end of August.

[Rocket252]

Heard on the Weather network last night the announcer saying "Leduc International Airport" while discussing the storms in the area.

Kind of funny

[oilfan]

A couple of things to report and two questions.

Firstly, when did AC start codesharing on the Delta flights?? I could not believe my eyes when I was at the airport in late June, waiting for a friend to get through customs to see that the Delta flight was also listed as an AC flight. It infuriates me. They should be offering their own service from YEG to many destinations, not just codeshare.

Secondly, can you get any type of cab but the Airport Taxis to pick you up from the airport and take you into town?

Now, for some comments. In mid-July, I flew YEG-YUL (enroute to LHR - could not get on the YEG-LHR flight as it was completely booked) on the E190. Beautiful aircraft, and comfortable. I hope to see additional routes out of YEG picked up by AC upon delivery of more of these. By the way, the flight to YUL was packed.

From YUL to LHR, I was lucky enough to sit Y class in a refurbished 767. Lie-flat suites. They were quite nice, and it was great to get the chance to use one. A couple of issues. If you are flying with someone, you cannot really talk to them. Secondly, if you are over 6 ft. tall, like me, you don't really fit into the bed (once the seat is lying flat). Otherwise, though, the refurbishing that they have done is great. The best part about it was that I believe they re-did the air filtering. It wasn't stuffy at all.

On the way home, I had to stop in YYZ for a couple of days, and flew an E190 from YYZ to YEG. Again, the flight was packed. Upon arrival at YEG, it took our bags about 45 minutes to come off of the aircraft.

[Coldrsx]

yeg was perfectly fine when i flew out on last wednesday...quick and easy...same with YYZ

[feepa]

Heard on the Weather network last night the announcer saying "Leduc International Airport" while discussing the storms in the area.

Kind of funny
I didn't know walli worked for the weathernetwork??

[ibz]

At the airport this evening....wow do I feel sorry for anyone flying out to London Heathrow tonight. Ive seen the 767 that has been parked out there other times, but tonight was pure VINTAGE 1988 767, yikes...if I saw that parked at the gate, Id start wondering why I didnt take a nice 777 on BA...

[ibz]

BTW..having been delayed in San Fran this afternoon on my way to YEG, and thus missing my connecting flight (out of a city im ashamed to mention), every flight to Edmonton from everywhere was soooold out. They tried every which way to fly me home. Bad for me, but great for YEG!

[Jasper and one o nin]

^ Umm _ More Flights Please

[Coldrsx]

my sister had to fly London (ont) - winn - cal - edm because there were no direct flights with any seats today

[Edmonchuck]

Heard on the Weather network last night the announcer saying "Leduc International Airport" while discussing the storms in the area.

Kind of funny

Actually, it is kind of sad....how would she even know that Leduc existed...she'd have to get the locations from a map - and the maps at Environment Canada say Edmonton International.

And yes, it is a she, I've seen her a few times say Leduc International Airport.

[Jasper and one o nin]

Another great month at Edmonton International Airport!



Highlights

550,570 passengers reported (467,435 in July 2006)
The busiest month in EIA history (August 2006 was the previous record at 508,207, which was also the first month to exceed 500,000 passengers)

Growth%

Overall 17.8% (July) and 18.5% (YTD)
Domestic 14.8% (July) and 15.3% (YTD)
Transborder 14.4% (July) and 20.3% (YTD)
International 251.9% (July) and 87.3% (YTD)

In the transborder sector, there was strong year over year growth in movements to Las Vegas and Denver.

In the international sector, Air Canada’s London Heathrow daily flight accounts for more than half of all international passengers. There is also growth in year over year movements to London Gatwick and Puerto Vallarta.

[Jasper and one o nin]

Domestic 465,429 +14.8%
Transbdr 64,270 +14.4%
Int 20871 +251.9%
total 550,570 +17.8%

[Hardhatdan]

Holy crap seeing 251% just makes me giggle.

[Coldrsx]

17.8% is just HUGE.........the most significant # there IMO is the domestic....14.8% of the biggest number of travelers is just MASSIVE!

hello 6.2 million....hello 7+ next yr.

[CMD UW]

/\ Yep...this is unreal. I hope the folks at ERAA realize how quickly the terminal expansion and upgrades need to happen.

Expanded parkade and overflow parking will be at capacity the day it opens, wow!

[EdmTrekker]

They have not issued an RFP for Design Consultants for the Terminal Expansion (yet).

[Jasper and one o nin]

/\ Yep...this is unreal. I hope the folks at ERAA realize how quickly the terminal expansion and upgrades need to happen.

Expanded parkade and overflow parking will be at capacity the day it opens, wow!
Oh, Im sure they do, but it takes time and planning. Nobody expected this kind of growth. I just hope they plan accordingly. Milney (sp) predicted double digit growth for at least 5 years. So the expansion should accommodate 10 mil pax IMO

[EdmTrekker]

Can anyone advise if the THREE (3) Stops in Calgary include YYC - and whether the TWO (2) Stopis in Edmonton exclude YEG? - or can identify the stops?

Here is the Article in todays Metro:http://metronews.ca/story_local.aspx?id=67790

Alberta bullet train backed
Report recommends commuter link between Edmonton and Calgary

toru hanai/reuters

A bullet train such as this N700 model in Japan may soon become a reality in Alberta. A provincial report has found that a high-speed rail link between Edmonton and Calgary is economically feasible.

A multibillion-dollar high-speed rail link between Edmonton and Calgary has taken a massive leap forward after a government report has determined there’s a viable market for the commuter train service.

The preliminary results of the study, conducted for the province by Alex Metcalf of Transportation Economics and Management Systems, found that a rail link is economically feasible.

“Our feeling is that there is a strong market for high-speed rail in Alberta,” Metcalf told Metro yesterday. “It’s quite clear that there is a real opportunity here.”

Metcalf, who conducted a similar study for the province in 1981, said the findings also prove that Alberta’s population has grown enough to generate revenues that will offset the multibillion-dollar price tag.

“There is certainly good opportunity for rail in the corridor,” he said. “Having waited 20 years, we can finally say the market is ready.”

The study sampled potential rail users by interviewing 5,000 motorists travelling on the Queen Elizabeth 2 highway.

Researchers also interviewed 1,000 air travellers and 700 bus users while recording vehicle traffic in four locations between Edmonton and Calgary.

Early data from the sample group proves that commuters are eager to use a bullet train rail link, even with the expected price of a transit fare, he said.

The final report, set to be released later this month, will reveal exact figures, but a Calgary-based high-speed rail company lobbying to take on the project has already confirmed it will charge $65 for a one-way ticket.

Bill Cruickshanks, president of Alberta High-Speed Rail, said the project could be completed in five years for a total cost of $2.2 billion.

“You have to look at this project and see that it’s going to be one of the building blocks for the future of the province,” he said.

The province has already purchased land for expected transit stops while Premier Ed Stelmach has voiced his full support for the rail link earlier this year by telling reporters that it’s an essential project.

“We have to. We have no choice. It will reduce emissions and it’s visionary,” he said.

Rail Details: The system would have three stops in Calgary, one stop in Red Deer and two stops in Edmonton for a total commuting time of 84 minutes.
steve lillebuen/metro edmonton

[EdmTrekker]

Found the Map - http://www.albertahighspeedrail.com/routeMap.html

Stop at YYC and nothing showing at YEG. That should pretty much kill flights from YEG.

[brento79]

That map includes three stops in Edmonton as well. Hopefully we can lobby for a YEG stop over since it crosses right by YEG.

[Hardhatdan]

Found the Map - http://www.albertahighspeedrail.com/routeMap.html

Stop at YYC and nothing showing at YEG. That should pretty much kill flights from YEG.
Thats some serious fucking bullshit right there.

[ExcaliburKid]

That map also says 2005 on it. However, if there is in fact no plan for a stop at YEG, I will be one pissed of Edmontonian. And why have a stop at SEC? Who the fuck came up with this route? I wonder if the southside stop was meant to be at YEG?

[CMD UW]

That map also says 2005 on it. However, if there is in fact no plan for a stop at YEG, I will be one pissed of Edmontonian. And why have a stop at SEC? Who the fuck came up with this route? I wonder if the southside stop was meant to be at YEG?
That's what I am thinking, otherwise, why would there be a blow-up of YEG with no stop?

It's great to plan for this now and implement in 30-40 years when we have the population to support it. Otherwise, this is still a pipe dream.

[oilfan]

That map also says 2005 on it. However, if there is in fact no plan for a stop at YEG, I will be one pissed of Edmontonian. And why have a stop at SEC? Who the fuck came up with this route? I wonder if the southside stop was meant to be at YEG?

It's not a 2005 map. The company's name is . . . (2005) Ltd., showing that it was incorporated in 2005. That map might very well be current. It's a Calgary corporation, so I am sure that they won't have Edmontonians' best interests in mind when planning this.

My guess is that this train needs to stop in Edmonton (downtown), Edmonton (airport), Red Deer (downtown), Calgary (airport) and Calgary (downtown). There is no need to stop elsewhere. 95% of passengers for $65.00 will be businesspeople going from downtown to downtown.

[newfangled]

That's what I am thinking, otherwise, why would there be a blow-up of YEG with no stop?

It's great to plan for this now and implement in 30-40 years when we have the population to support it. Otherwise, this is still a pipe dream.

"...across the High Level Bridge to the next station adjacent to the Grandin LRT Station (Government Centre). It is proposed to extend the line, by way of a new tunnel, to the CN OfficeTower"

30-40 years is right.

[brento79]

If the routes are EDM_YEG_RED_YYC_CAL
that is fair and like OilFan stated it will mainly be business travellers between the two cities. I think YYC and YEG will be okay.

[codeman9669]

Domestic 465,429 +14.8%
Transbdr 64,270 +14.4%
Int 20871 +251.9%
total 550,570 +17.8%


Wow! I am really getting used to seeing numbers like this. The day we see these numbers drop back down under 10% - the growth is going to seem so small (even though at (for case of this example) 8% would still be impressive growth!)

[brento79]

It is truely incredible. Surprised that Alaska or United haven't increased loaded to the west coast. Did YEG contact Virgin America?

[ExcaliburKid]

It's not a 2005 map. The company's name is . . . (2005) Ltd., showing that it was incorporated in 2005. That map might very well be current. It's a Calgary corporation, so I am sure that they won't have Edmontonians' best interests in mind when planning this.

My guess is that this train needs to stop in Edmonton (downtown), Edmonton (airport), Red Deer (downtown), Calgary (airport) and Calgary (downtown). There is no need to stop elsewhere. 95% of passengers for $65.00 will be businesspeople going from downtown to downtown.

Ahh yeah thanks, you are right. I kinda skimmed over it before heading straight for the route map and all that stuck was 2005.

[Coldrsx]

last night i got into YEG around 11:15pm and it was PACKED in arrivals...10-15min for bags which is perfectly acceptable and many cabs waiting outside.

but good god do they more room there......must have been 4-5 planes without gates for the morning parked in the boonies.

oh and dallas green + city and color were on our flight as they play folkfest tonight.

FYI - our business class was full but 1 and the plane was 95% full.

[rapid_business]

city & colour, eh?.... i might have to go to FolkFest tonight.

You'd think with this kind of growth, we'd see them fast-tracking the much larger plan that includes the expansion to the south-east.

[Coldrsx]

^no kidding...to both actually:>

we need 4-5 more gates NOW...and 4-5 more within 3 yrs to keep the momentum going.

[ExcaliburKid]

Heard rumblings of Emirates showing interest in YEG and YYC. Is this accurate?

[CMD UW]

/\ From brentk on C2E

Rumor mill time!Well sort of...

YYC wont be getting new service right away due to the current bi-latteral,but Emirates will state its intention to serve YYC and fight for it as per usual.YEG comes into play aswell but my lips are sealed.Cargo/Pax service is in the works...A f.b.o in YEG is already posting ''Welcome Emirates'' to its main wall facing the apron.Also a few Saudi and a Qatar registered private airplanes are due to visit YYC and YEG in the next few weeks.

http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4520

[Coldrsx]

^very very interesting...

[S_B_Russell]

^ that would be cool - but wouldn't they be offering flights to London Gatwick?

[brento79]

Dubai

[Jasper and one o nin]

what is an f.b.o?

[brento79]

Stands for Fixed Base Operator

[Jasper and one o nin]

DUBAI, U.A.E., 13th August 2007 – Emirates Airline is powering up for a transcontinental road show blitz to support a flurry of route launches across the world, beginning with the Newcastle service on September 1st.

From Ahmedabad in India to Sao Paulo in Brazil, Emirates is criss-crossing the globe in the coming months with a series of events to publicise the latest additions to the airline's increasingly global footprint.

The promotions, which come hot on the heels of the successful Venice route launch, start in Sao Paulo, the most important financial centre in Latin America. Road shows will be held there on 14&15th August to support the beginning of the Emirates’ service on October 1st. Further road show activities are planned in the effervescent city of Rio on 21&22nd August.

In Europe, Emirates will address the travel trade in Newcastle in the UK on August 23rd, to promote its sixth gateway into the UK, with services starting September 1st.

After Tyneside, it's back across the Atlantic to the United States to promote the December 3rd Houston launch. Events are taking place in Houston itself on August 29th, with further activities in Miami on September 6th and in Dallas on September 28th.

On 10th September, another continent comes into the frame with India. Emirates is organising a road show in Ahmedabad, India's sixth largest city and a place sometimes dubbed the "Manchester of the East" because of its booming textile industry. Emirates will fly there from October 28th.

In Canada, road shows to support the new Toronto service, which begins October 29th, will take place in Toronto on September 19th and later in Calgary on September 24th.

Emirates' road shows are aimed at raising awareness, primarily within the travel and tourism industry, ahead of the start of a new service. They involve trade presentations, dinner functions and press briefings.

Mike Simon, Divisional Senior Vice President, Corporate Communications, said: "This is a busy year for Emirates as far as route launches and the resulting promotional activities go. But, as ever, we are ready for the challenge. It is an exciting time for the airline as it continues to spread its wings across new boundaries and further establish its international reputation. We are particularly keen to launch services into South America and we now offer the only direct air link between Venice and the Middle East. Meanwhile, it's a case of watch this space, as more announcements are on the way."

During the second half of 2007, Emirates will launch a total of six new routes - Venice (which started July 1st), Newcastle (September 1st) Sao Paulo (1st October), Ahmedabad (28th October), Toronto (29th October) and Houston (3rd December).

The heavily decorated, Dubai-based carrier currently flies to 92 destinations in 59 countries across five continents with a fleet of 106 modern aircraft.

[tuffyy]

I can help confirm some of the info,I work for the F.B.O that has recieved the ''Welcome Emirates'' banner.We are expecting the arrival of a few middle eastern registered aircraft over the next while.It part of a tour that Emirates is heading to Visit Alberta's major buisness centre's in the oil industry.Emirates itself is not flying its own aircraft to YEG but several other private aircraft carrying some Emirates officals and other middle eastern buisness people.That is all I can say at this time...

[EdmTrekker]

TSX: WJA


Aug 15, 2007 09:20 ET
Buenos Dias Mexico! WestJet Adds Scheduled Service to Mazatlan and San Jose del Cabo/Cabo San Lucas
Airline also adds third Hawaiian destination of Kona
CALGARY, ALBERTA--(Marketwire - Aug. 15, 2007) - WestJet (TSX:WJA) today announced the introduction of seasonal non-stop service to two new international destinations in Mexico: Mazatlan from Calgary and Edmonton; and San Jose del Cabo/Cabo San Lucas from Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton. These new sun destinations are part of WestJet's enhanced winter schedule that also includes the addition of a new seasonal non-stop route from Vancouver to Kona, Hawaii.

"Mexico represents the fourth international country for scheduled service," said Bob Cummings, WestJet Executive Vice-President, Guest Experience and Marketing. "These announcements are part of WestJet's measured expansion plans to fly to over 60 destinations by 2013. Our fleet of Boeing Next-Generation 737 aircraft is perfectly suited for these destinations, providing live seatback TV and pay-per-view movies at every seat. We are confident that the exceptional guest experience provided by our more than 6,400 WestJetters will make these destinations a success.

"Turning to Kona, WestJet is quickly becoming the airline of choice for Canadians travelling to Hawaii. Our flights to Hawaii have increased to 21 flights weekly from 14 last winter and we also have improved schedules for our guests' convenience.

"In three short years, WestJet has grown to 18 sun destinations offering guests across Canada the opportunity to travel south in the winter. WestJet also recently announced the addition of three new Caribbean destinations: Montego Bay (Jamaica), Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic) and Punta Cana (Dominican Republic)."

"This is exciting news for WestJet Vacations," said John Hamilton, Vice-President, WestJet Vacations. "This expansion enriches the already strong package offerings to our sun destinations. We will be making exciting announcements for these new destinations shortly. I am confident that our value-added vacation packages will offer something for everyone."

Starting in December 2007 and January 2008, WestJet will provide seasonal non-stop service to the following new sun destinations:




Calgary - San Jose del Cabo/Cabo San Lucas, Mexico (Thursdays and Sundays) Starting December 20, 2007. Introductory fare $199(i)----------------------------------------------------------------------------Flight Departure Arrival----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Calgary - WS1172 10:30 a.m. 2:56 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------From San Jose del Cabo - WS1173 3:50 p.m. 8:20 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Calgary - Mazatlan, Mexico (Saturdays) Starting December 22, 2007. Introductory fare $199(i)----------------------------------------------------------------------------Flight Departure Arrival----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Calgary - WS1174 1:00 p.m. 5:23 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Mazatlan - WS1175 6:15 p.m. 10:57 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edmonton - San Jose del Cabo/Cabo San Lucas, Mexico (Fridays) Starting December 21, 2007. Introductory fare $219(i)----------------------------------------------------------------------------Flight Departure Arrival----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Edmonton - WS1184 7:45 a.m. 12:22 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------From San Jose del Cabo - WS1185 1:10 p.m. 6:11 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edmonton - Mazatlan, Mexico (Saturdays) Starting December 22, 2007. Introductory fare $219(i)----------------------------------------------------------------------------Flight Departure Arrival----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Edmonton - WS1182 11:05 a.m. 3:39 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Mazatlan - WS1183 4:30 p.m. 9:37 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vancouver - San Jose del Cabo/Cabo San Lucas, Mexico (Saturdays) Starting December 22, 2007. Introductory fare $199(i)----------------------------------------------------------------------------Flight Departure Arrival----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Vancouver - WS1190 10:45 a.m. 4:13 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------From San Jose del Cabo - WS1191 5:05 p.m. 8:40 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vancouver - Kona, Hawaii (Thursdays and Sundays) Starting January 13, 2008. Introductory fare $249(i)----------------------------------------------------------------------------Flight Departure Arrival----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Vancouver - WS0930 6:30 p.m. 10:58 p.m.----------------------------------------------------------------------------From Kona - WS0931 11:59 p.m. 7:38 a.m. (next day)----------------------------------------------------------------------------



"WestJet is very pleased to have received designation from the Canadian government to fly scheduled service into these Mexican sun destinations," said Bob Cummings. "This decision bodes well for future international destinations and we look forward to working with Transport Canada in the future."
More detailed information about WestJet's enhanced winter schedule and low introductory fares is available at westjet.com. Seats are available for sale immediately and can be booked online at westjet.com, by calling 1-888-WESTJET or through travel agents.

(i) Book by August 30, 2007 for travel from December 20, 2007 until January 31, 2008. Fares available on non-stop flights only and flights may not operate on certain days. No advance purchase required. Taxes, fees and surcharges are extra where applicable. Seats at these fares are limited and may not be available on all flights. New bookings only. 100% non-refundable. Offer combinable with other fares. All fares shown are one-way. See westjet.com for details.

About WestJet

WestJet is Canada's leading low-fare airline offering scheduled service throughout its 38-city North American and Caribbean network. Named Canada's most admired corporate culture in 2005 and 2006, WestJet pioneered low-cost high-value flying in Canada. With increased legroom and leather seats on its modern fleet of Boeing Next-Generation 737 aircraft, and live seatback television provided by Bell ExpressVu on the majority of its fleet, WestJet strives to be the number one choice for travellers.

[tarapoto]

Can anyone advise if the THREE (3) Stops in Calgary include YYC - and whether the TWO (2) Stopis in Edmonton exclude YEG? - or can identify the stops?

Here is the Article in todays Metro:http://metronews.ca/story_local.aspx?id=67790

Alberta bullet train backed
Report recommends commuter link between Edmonton and Calgary

toru hanai/reuters

A bullet train such as this N700 model in Japan may soon become a reality in Alberta. A provincial report has found that a high-speed rail link between Edmonton and Calgary is economically feasible.

A multibillion-dollar high-speed rail link between Edmonton and Calgary has taken a massive leap forward after a government report has determined there’s a viable market for the commuter train service.

The preliminary results of the study, conducted for the province by Alex Metcalf of Transportation Economics and Management Systems, found that a rail link is economically feasible.

“Our feeling is that there is a strong market for high-speed rail in Alberta,” Metcalf told Metro yesterday. “It’s quite clear that there is a real opportunity here.”

Metcalf, who conducted a similar study for the province in 1981, said the findings also prove that Alberta’s population has grown enough to generate revenues that will offset the multibillion-dollar price tag.

“There is certainly good opportunity for rail in the corridor,” he said. “Having waited 20 years, we can finally say the market is ready.”

The study sampled potential rail users by interviewing 5,000 motorists travelling on the Queen Elizabeth 2 highway.

Researchers also interviewed 1,000 air travellers and 700 bus users while recording vehicle traffic in four locations between Edmonton and Calgary.

Early data from the sample group proves that commuters are eager to use a bullet train rail link, even with the expected price of a transit fare, he said.

The final report, set to be released later this month, will reveal exact figures, but a Calgary-based high-speed rail company lobbying to take on the project has already confirmed it will charge $65 for a one-way ticket.

Bill Cruickshanks, president of Alberta High-Speed Rail, said the project could be completed in five years for a total cost of $2.2 billion.

“You have to look at this project and see that it’s going to be one of the building blocks for the future of the province,” he said.

The province has already purchased land for expected transit stops while Premier Ed Stelmach has voiced his full support for the rail link earlier this year by telling reporters that it’s an essential project.

“We have to. We have no choice. It will reduce emissions and it’s visionary,” he said.

Rail Details: The system would have three stops in Calgary, one stop in Red Deer and two stops in Edmonton for a total commuting time of 84 minutes.
steve lillebuen/metro edmonton

They expect us to pay $130 round trip because taking a train is better for the environment? No thanks, i'll just pay $60 and drive my car. If you want people to give a crap about the environment, make it affordable to use

[S_B_Russell]

^This bullet train malarkey is funny. I was just watching BBC World and they mentioned how people choose to fly from Heathrow to places like Paris and Manchester when they have the option to take the train. If you can't get people in London to use the train as their first option when they have a far better public transportation system, I don't see how you could get an Albertan on the train when they can drive for less. Instead of pouring money into this turkey, let's build up our LRT.

[CMD UW]

/\ I know...does anyone know where we can purchase white elephants?

I wonder if the travel time takes into consideration the slower speeds the trains will travel within Edmonton and Calgary city limits?

[Hardhatdan]

/\ I know...does anyone know where we can purchase white elephants?

I wonder if the travel time takes into consideration the slower speeds the trains will travel within Edmonton and Calgary city limits?

I have six white elephants for you to buy. Got a billion? I take amex.

E-town limits to C-town limits in 84...and an hour to get from the edges in.

[SpongeG]

i haven't driven it in a long time how long is the drive between edmonton and calgary?

as for the price - time is money to some people and saving time is worth paying the price

[Rocket252]

I believe their is another thread regarding high speed rail.

Why don't we stick to YEG information.

[Coldrsx]

^agreed.

as for driving time, it is about 2.5hrs.