[wrendog]

Arizona

Phoenix 3,251,876 4,039,182 24.2%

Tucson 843,746 946,362 12.2%

Prescott 167,517 208,014 24.2%

Lake Havasu City 155,032 193,035 24.5%

Yuma 160,026 187,555 17.2%

Colorado

Denver 2,179,320 2,408,750 10.5%

Colorado Springs 537,484 599,127 11.5%

Boulder 269,787 282,304 4.6%

Fort Collins 251,494 276,253 9.8%

Greeley 180,861 236,857 31.0%

Idaho

Boise 464,840 567,640 22.1%

Coeur d'Alene 108,685 131,507 21.0%

Idaho Falls 101,677 116,980 15.1%

Twin Falls 82,626 91,705 11.0%

Pocatello 83,103 86,357 3.9%

Montana

Billings 138,904 148,116 6.6%

Missoula 95,802 101,417 5.9%

Kalispell 74,471 85,314 14.6%

Bozeman 67,831 80,921 19.3%

Great Falls 80,357 79,385 -1.2%

Nevada

Las Vegas 1,375,738 1,777,539 29.2%

Reno 342,885 400,560 16.8%

Carson City 52,457 55,289 5.4%

Fernley 34,501 51,231 48.5%

Elko 46,942 48,594 3.5%

New Mexico

Albuquerque 729,653 816,811 11.9%

Las Cruces 174,682 193,888 11.0%

Santa Fe 129,287 142,407 10.1%

Farmington 113,801 126,473 11.1%

Gallup 74,798 71,875 -3.9%

Utah

Salt Lake City 968,883 1,067,722 10.2%

Ogden 442,656 497,640 12.4%

Provo 376,778 474,180 25.9%

St. George 90,354 126,312 39.8%

Logan 102,720 111,156 8.2%

Wyoming

Cheyenne 81,607 85,384 4.6%

Casper 66,533 70,401 5.8%

Gillette 33,698 38,934 15.5%

Rock Springs 37,613 38,763 3.1%

Riverton 35,804 37,163 3.8%

[BroncoCSU05]

2000 census? lot of good that does us a mere couple of years from the 2010 one...

[wrendog]

no sir, these are fresh from the oven (well july 2006)

[InfillJunkie]

Wrendog, never mind Bronco, he's in a perpetually stoned state.

[PHX31]

Poor Prescott (or should I say Prescott Valley)

[BroncoCSU05]

Wrendog, never mind Bronco, he's in a perpetually stoned state.

don't you mean drunk? normally stoners wouldn't even come up with a thoughtful question...just eat munchies

[JAHOPL]

Poor Prescott (or should I say Prescott Valley)

Our family moved to Prescott 40 years ago and the "metro" population was probably about 25,000. Mom and three brothers still live up there. Good for our family's motorcycle business anyway, the increase in population.

[Diddle E Squat]

So the Front Range added almost as many persons as Vegas (375K + Pueblo's growth vs. 402K, 93%.)

[PHX31]

Our family moved to Prescott 40 years ago and the "metro" population was probably about 25,000. Mom and three brothers still live up there. Good for our family's motorcycle business anyway, the increase in population.

My Uncle has lived up there for 25 years and my parents have a place up there for the past 7 years. It's a great place, but getting really crazy. Especially through prescott valley with all of the big box stores and traffic signals and people.

[delts145]

I've really enjoyed the Tempe pic's. Anyone have something of Prescott? Also, a lot more of what is going on in Flagstaff, I love that area.

[SLC fan]

The Wasatch Front added 250 thousand people over the last 6 years - pretty impressive numbers. I'm still disappointed that Ogden was dropped from the Salt Lake Metropolitan Area in favor of Park City and Tooele. It just doesn't seem to reflect the actual population of the region if you're essentially counting just the population of Salt Lake County (area of approx. 900 square miles). Besides, I doubt as many people in Davis County commute to Ogden as they do to Salt Lake. Interesting.....

[CodyY]

The Coeur d'Alene numbers should include Spokane, WA. Because really, we are one metro area. If they did, Cd'A would easily be the largest Metro area in Idaho with about...600,000 people I'd guess.

[kaneui]

I've really enjoyed the Tempe pic's. Anyone have something of Prescott? Also, a lot more of what is going on in Flagstaff, I love that area.

For Flagstaff, I post most of the development info. on this SkyscraperCity thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=239796

[wrendog]

The Coeur d'Alene numbers should include Spokane, WA. Because really, we are one metro area. If they did, Cd'A would easily be the largest Metro area in Idaho with about...600,000 people I'd guess.

don't you mean that Spokane numbers should include Coeur d'Alene and not the other way around? If that were the case, it would be Washingtons 600k metro, not Idaho's.

[IdaBoi]

The Coeur d'Alene numbers should include Spokane, WA. Because really, we are one metro area. If they did, Cd'A would easily be the largest Metro area in Idaho with about...600,000 people I'd guess.

I think Boizean has the new estimates from COMPASS which show the Boise Metro Area around 610,000 or near that number. Boizean or other Boise people will have to verify because I cannot locate the new numbers.

[JAHOPL]

Especially through prescott valley with all of the big box stores and traffic signals and people.

When we moved there in 1967, there was one traffic light between Prescott and I-17, on Robert Road, and one lane each direction until the freeway. With all the lights now, I think I prefer the way it used to be.

[Boizean]

I think Boizean has the new estimates from COMPASS which show the Boise Metro Area around 610,000 or near that number. Boizean or other Boise people will have to verify because I cannot locate the new numbers.
Check my sig. COMPASS hasn't released 2007 numbers yet.

[PHX31]

When we moved there in 1967, there was one traffic light between Prescott and I-17, on Robert Road, and one lane each direction until the freeway. With all the lights now, I think I prefer the way it used to be.

Definitely, that sounds much nicer... the best part about prescott is the downtown area and the outdoors.

Amazingly, one trip down to Phoenix from my parent's place, I hit every green light and never stopped. Through the downtown area, through the rest of prescott, through Prescott Valley, all the way to I-17, I never had to stop. It took me just over an hour to get home.

[Boizean]

The Coeur d'Alene numbers should include Spokane, WA. Because really, we are one metro area. If they did, Cd'A would easily be the largest Metro area in Idaho with about...600,000 people I'd guess.

Idaho

Boise 464,840 567,640 22.1%

Coeur d'Alene 108,685 131,507 21.0%

Idaho Falls 101,677 116,980 15.1%

Twin Falls 82,626 91,705 11.0%

Pocatello 83,103 86,357 3.9%



Washington

Seattle-Tacoma 3,043,885 3,263,497 7.2%

Spokane 417,938 446,706 6.9%

Bremerton 231,969 240,604 3.7%

Olympia 207,355 234,670 13.2%

Yakima 222,578 233,105 4.7%


If the Spokane Metro included CDA these would be the numbers;

Spokane 526,623 578,213 9.8%
Boise 464,840 567,640 22.1%

Based on the 2006 US census.

[SLC Projects]

Crazy to see just how fast St. George Utah is growing. :tup:

[soonermeteor]

I refuse to acknowledge a "Boulder metro".

Denver = 2,691,054

[Paulopolis]

I refuse to acknowledge a "Boulder metro".

Denver = 2,691,054

I think Boulder is considered part of Denver's Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area (CMSA), and Greeley was recently added back into the CMSA. However, it doesn't look like these numbers are for CMSAs but for MSAs.

Although, I don't work for the census so I could be wrong.

[wrendog]

Not including the Boulder metro is akin to not including the Ogden metro with SLC... makes no sense..

[BarbulaM1]

Well the Census dropped the CMSA in favor of the CSA anyways. Also where is Pueblo?

[JCarp]

Well the Census dropped the CMSA in favor of the CSA anyways. Also where is Pueblo?

Pueblo is roughly about an hour south of Colorado Springs, which is roughly an hour south of Denver. All three cities are on the front range, where the Rockies meet the Great Plains. Hopefully that helps.

[Front_Range_Guy]

posted by JCarp
Pueblo is roughly about an hour south of Colorado Springs, which is roughly an hour south of Denver. All three cities are on the front range, where the Rockies meet the Great Plains. Hopefully that helps.


Yeah... Pueblo is about 40 miles south of CS...

BUT I have a feeling the real question here is... where is Pueblo on the list? It seems to be missing.

[BarbulaM1]

Yeah, I ment where it was on the list. I live in South Colorado Springs :P... I know where it is (it's actually about 35 miles from where I get on I-25). But Pueblo is larger than Greeley I would imagine, however I don't think it is growing as fast.

[Front_Range_Guy]

I think Greeley is bigger than Pueblo... and isn't Pueblo's growth relatively stagnant. I think Pueblo West is growing pretty quickly...

EDIT: Hm. Apparently Pueblo is bigger.

[SnyderBock]

I believe Pueblo was stagnant in growth for decades and stuck around 100,000 to 110,000 people...

Until the 199's, when it actually began to grow again. If I am not mistaken, Pueblo came in somewhere around 150,000 to 160,000 people in the 2000 Census report? I don't see Pueblo being over the 175,000 to 195,000 people mark by the 2010 Census.

Anyone know for sure?

[Front_Range_Guy]

I'm not familiar with this website (http://diversitydata.sph.harvard.edu/profiles.jsp?ma=6560)so I don't know how reliable it is, but the numbers look right... and according to these numbers, the population of the Pueblo Metro area actually declined between 1980 and 1990 before increasingly substantially during the '90s. None of which explains why Pueblo wasn't included in the list originally posted on this thread.

[dktshb]

don't you mean drunk? normally stoners wouldn't even come up with a thoughtful question...just eat munchies Coming up with thoughtful questions isn't difficult... typing them is.

Such as why is Greeley of all places growing... sure it's less exspensive than Ft. Collins and is still within relative proximity to Denver (by LA standards) but it's growing at a greater % rate than any city in the MW except for St. George... that's crazy. Maybe the new people will get rid of Musgrave. :yuck:

[dktshb]

don't you mean that Spokane numbers should include Coeur d'Alene and not the other way around? If that were the case, it would be Washingtons 600k metro, not Idaho's. I was kind of thinking that too.

[FrancoRey]

I refuse to acknowledge a "Boulder metro".

Denver = 2,691,054

I agree. Don't get me into my "circle of protection" rant again. :haha:

[I-15]

Wow! Provo-Orem (Utah County) grew by 25.9 percent:yes:

Provo 376,778 474,180 25.9%


Thats ahead of PhX, and only behind Vegas 29.2% and St. George, UT 39.8%
in terms of percentage in the Mountain West.

I had no idea it grew that much in six years

We'll overtake Boise at that rate:justkidding:

[CodyY]

If the Spokane Metro included CDA these would be the numbers;

Spokane 526,623 578,213 9.8%
Boise 464,840 567,640 22.1%

Based on the 2006 US census.

Wow, I was closer than I thought. Anyways, I certainly didn't mean to start an argument, or offend anyone. Oh, and @IdaBoi, if Boise's numbers according to COMPASS are higher than those of the census, what counties does that include? Because the Spo-CdA area is only two counties, although Pend Oreille and Bonner (an extra like...50,000 people) could maybe be included in the Spo-CdA area.

But really anything that involves the Metro area in Spokane and KC says Spokane-Coeur d'Alene...Our news stations broadcast in "Spokane and Coeur d'Alene" our metropolitan opera (or orchestra, I can't remember) is the "Spokane-Coeur d'Alene Opera" our Journal of Business is for Spokane and Kootenai Counties...and so on. Coeur d'Alene is to Spokane as Tacoma is to Seattle. That is kinda the idea I meant to say. Essentially, you cannot live in Spokane without ever going to Idaho, and certainly vice versa.

Oh, and I do love Boise, so yeah, I am just defending my metro ;)

[wrendog]

Wow! Provo-Orem (Utah County) grew by 25.9 percent:yes:

Provo 376,778 474,180 25.9%


Thats ahead of PhX, and only behind Vegas 29.2% and St. George, UT 39.8%
in terms of percentage in the Mountain West.

I had no idea it grew that much in six years

We'll overtake Boise at that rate:justkidding:

Well, if they keep the same percentage of growth, Provo/Orem will pass boise in 2036:

Boise: 1,880,904
Provo: 1,888,413

:) Of course we know that those rates won't stay this high for 30 years.

FYI, most of the growth in Provo/Orem is in the Eagle Mountain/Saratoga Springs area...

[Boizean]

Well, if they keep the same percentage of growth, Provo/Orem will pass boise in 2036:

Boise: 1,880,904
Provo: 1,888,413


Will pass Colorado Springs even sooner, 2017.

Colorado Springs: 738,272
Provo: 754,804

:poke:

[nbrindley]

At the current growth rates, Phoenix will pass up Boston, Detroit and San Francisco MSAs by the 2010 census. Crazy.

[Boizean]

Here are the rankings for all the MW metros (hope I didn't leave any out)
Top five percentage winners are bold.


Rank Rank Pop. Pop. Pop. Pop. Place
2006 2005 2006 2005 No. % Name
13 14 4,039,182 3,878,525 160,657 4.1 Pheonix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
21 22 2,408,750 2,361,778 46,972 2.0 Denver-Aurora, CO
31 31 1,777,539 1,709,364 68,175 4.0 Las Vegas-Paradise, NV
48 49 1,067,722 1,046,685 21,037 2.0 Salt Lake City, UT
52 52 946,362 925,000 21,362 2.3 Tucson, AZ
61 61 816,811 797,517 19,294 2.4 Albuquerque, NM
83 85 599,127 586,719 12,408 2.1 Colorado Springs, CO
87 87 567,640 545,141 22,499 4.1 Boise City-Nampa, ID
98 101 497,640 486,428 11,212 2.3 Ogden-Clearfield, UT
102 103 474,180 461,020 13,160 2.9 Provo-Orem, UT
123 124 400,560 393,820 6,740 1.7 Reno-Sparks, NV
160 161 282,304 279,508 2,796 1.0 Boulder, CO
162 163 276,253 271,842 4,411 1.6 Fort Collins-Loveland, CO
182 185 236,857 228,158 8,699 3.8 Greeley, CO

196 201 208,014 198,841 9,173 4.6 Prescott, AZ

208 210 193,888 189,306 4,582 2.4 Las Cruces, NM
213 218 187,555 181,598 5,957 3.3 Yuma, AZ
248 249 152,912 150,974 1,938 1.3 Pueblo, CO
255 257 148,116 146,481 1,635 1.1 Billings, MT
268 268 142,407 140,801 1,606 1.1 Santa Fe, NM
277 281 134,189 129,746 4,443 3.4 Grand Junction, CO
280 285 131,507 127,722 3,785 3.0 Coeur d'Alene, ID
292 290 126,473 125,820 653 0.5 Farmington, NM
293 299 126,312 119,188 7,124 6.0 St. George, UT
297 295 124,953 123,826 1,127 0.9 Flagstaff, AZ
305 310 116,980 113,315 3,665 3.2 Idaho Falls, ID
319 318 111,156 110,768 388 0.4 Logan, UT-ID
335 338 101,417 100,033 1,384 1.4 Missoula, MT
350 350 86,357 85,555 802 0.9 Pocatello, ID
351 351 85,384 85,031 353 0.4 Cheyenne, WY
354 354 79,385 79,490 -105 -0.1 Great Falls, MT
359 359 70,401 69,655 746 1.1 Casper, WY
360 360 59,571 59,058 513 0.9 Lewiston, ID-WA
361 361 55,289 55,877 -588 -1.1 Carson City, NV

[wrendog]

You only left out that miniscule metro area called Phoenix. I see how it could be easy to miss... :)

[CANUC]

^Um, there is this little place called Phoenix that seems to be missing from the list.

[vertex]

While we're at it, you forgot Prescott too.

[Boizean]

Pheonix! LOL! How could I forget Pheonix? :no: Fixed.

(Got to knock off the top dog somehow) :P

[FrancoRey]

Don't put Boulder as a separate metro!!! UGGGHHH!!! :hell: That's so annoying I want to shoot someone!!! :twoguns: It's part of Denver metro. A 1-2 mile thick green "hippie ring" does NOT make it its own metro entity. Stupid hippies.

[BoiseAirport]

Well, if they keep the same percentage of growth, Provo/Orem will pass boise in 2036:

Boise: 1,880,904
Provo: 1,888,413

:) Of course we know that those rates won't stay this high for 30 years.

FYI, most of the growth in Provo/Orem is in the Eagle Mountain/Saratoga Springs area...

LOL, I did some number crunching for the fun of it (lay off me, I'm a nerd), only for these cities. I think these are very inaccurate though, not even entirely sure how I got here, but the formula I used was consistant.

Year: 2040

Population Ranks

Salt Lake City - 1,779,364
Tucson - 1,669,625
Boise - 1,482,203
Albuquerque - 1,467,431
Colorado Springs -1,017,957

Interestingly Boise would be bigger in 2040 than these cities today:

Nashville
Jacksonville
Hartford
Richmond
Oklahoma City
Buffalo
Salt Lake City
Memphis
Louisville

Anthony

[wrendog]

Don't put Boulder as a separate metro!!! UGGGHHH!!! :hell: That's so annoying I want to shoot someone!!! :twoguns: It's part of Denver metro. A 1-2 mile thick green "hippie ring" does NOT make it its own metro entity. Stupid hippies.

it is it's own metro... Like I said before, it's like leaving off Ogden for SLC.. that takes away a half a million people when it should be included..

[BarbulaM1]

Boulder is generaly concidered part of the old CMSA, as well as the new CSA... Boulder is an MSA, so are Ft. Collins and Greeley thus why we use CSA now (Combined Statistical Area) However the CSA of Denver is Denver-Boulder-Aurora and Greeley... odd they missed Ft. Collins but oh well.

Technicly the Front Range Urban Corridor is going to be recognized in 2010 as an offical 11th population corridor in the US though so, why not throw everything from Cheyenne to Pueblo!

[EngiNerd]

Does that number for Boulder just include the actual City of Boulder or the surrounding areas as well (superior, louisville, etc.). I mean jeebus, where are all of those people? I went to school up there and I would have never guessed it was that big.

[FrancoRey]

Does that number for Boulder just include the actual City of Boulder or the surrounding areas as well (superior, louisville, etc.). I mean jeebus, where are all of those people? I went to school up there and I would have never guessed it was that big.

No, Boulder city proper has only about 100k people.

That number includes Niwot, Superior, Louisville, Eldorado Spgs, Erie, Lafayette, and parts of Broomfield and Longmont. Which is why Boulder ISN'T and SHOULD NEVER BE it's own metro. Half the people on this forum know damn well most these cities are in the urban glob that is Denver.

I don't know about the Ogden case, but these Census retards have been smoking too much in Boulder to decide it's its own urban area.

[GeorgeLV]

BTW, the census estimates for Las Vegas are ridiculously off. The UNLV Center for Business and Economic research pegged the July '06 Clark County population at 1,912,654. Their methodology is based on the active residential electrical meter count. The reality-based current Las Vegas-Pahrump CSA population would be a hair over 2 million.

[delts145]

Wow! Provo-Orem (Utah County) grew by 25.9 percent:yes:

Provo 376,778 474,180 25.9%


Thats ahead of PhX, and only behind Vegas 29.2% and St. George, UT 39.8%
in terms of percentage in the Mountain West.

I had no idea it grew that much in six years

We'll overtake Boise at that rate:justkidding:

I-15, if you haven't lately take a drive out to Eagle Mountain and then return and head out to Saratoga Springs and the other side of Utah lake. The amount of growth will blow your mind.

[delts145]

:) Of course we know that those rates won't stay this high for 30 years.

FYI, most of the growth in Provo/Orem is in the Eagle Mountain/Saratoga Springs area...

My gut feeling usually serves me well, and it told me yesterday that the entire Cedar Valley(Eagle Mountain and it's surrounding area) is entering an era of explosive growth.

[Northernlad]

Wow! Provo-Orem (Utah County) grew by 25.9 percent:yes:

Provo 376,778 474,180 25.9%


Thats ahead of PhX, and only behind Vegas 29.2% and St. George, UT 39.8%
in terms of percentage in the Mountain West.

I had no idea it grew that much in six years

We'll overtake Boise at that rate:justkidding:

Yeah, that is if Boise completely stopped growing which isn't likely.
The strange think about Provo/Orem is that Orem does not even seem like a real city because it is void of a city center, it just seems like a strip mall after strip mall, and then Provo is ...well, I will leave it at that:) A joke we Utahn's have who grew up in the Cache valley is that Provo and Orem are basically bedroom communites for Salt Lake County and that the Utah Valley probably would not exist as it does today if it weren't so close to Salt Lake.
But Utah Valley probably has their jokes about the Cache Valley. I have heard a few.
Every metro in our Mountain region is growing, and growing fast, so everybody is used to explosive growth.

[wrendog]

Cache Valley jokes? too easy... :)

[rds70]

Lets compare what we all know are the appropriate metro designations (top 4):

Phoenix 2006 - 4,039,182
Denver-Boulder 2006 - 2,691,054
Las Vegas 2006 - 1,777,539
Salt Lake City-Ogden 2006 - 1,565,362

But, of course, local estimates are better. Can everybody find estimates from state or local council of governments:

For Denver-Boulder:

State estimate - 2006: 2,723,661
DRCOG estimate - 2006: 2,752,344

[BarbulaM1]

Is Greeley included in DRCOG's estimates? The CSA of Denver for some reason includes Greeley now (and the Northern Colorado Metro area... Ft. Collins/Loveland)

[FrancoRey]

For CONSOLIDATED metro, yes, it does. Although for this particular case, I'm NOT sure why they would include that. Greeeley is by no means very close to Denver, I find it odd that for CSMA they would include it. Add that in for Denver, we've broken the 3 million mark, which I found out about 3 weeks ago.

[wrendog]

those numbers are pretty much dead on for the Utah estimates..

1,562,054 is the estimate from Utah... add Provo/orem (which they should too) and you get: 2,037,479

[GeorgeLV]

Lets compare what we all know are the appropriate metro designations (top 4):

Phoenix 2006 - 4,039,182
Denver-Boulder 2006 - 2,691,054
Las Vegas 2006 - 1,777,539
Salt Lake City-Ogden 2006 - 1,565,362

But, of course, local estimates are better. Can everybody find estimates from state or local council of governments:

For Denver-Boulder:

State estimate - 2006: 2,723,661
DRCOG estimate - 2006: 2,752,344

For Las Vegas (Clark County)
State estimate - 2006: 1,874,837
CBER estimate - 2006: 1,912,654

for Las Vegas-Pahrump CSA (Clark-Nye County)
State estimate - 2006: 1,919,632

and just for fun, the old Las Vegas, NV-AZ CMSA (Clark-Nye-Mojave County)
State estimates - 2006: 2,117,952

[CANUC]

and just for fun, the old Las Vegas, NV-AZ CMSA (Clark-Nye-Mojave County)
State estimates - 2006: 2,117,952 Um, why would Las Vegas include Mojave county into it’s measurement of population? Just wondering because by including Mojave county that would add Kingman and Lake Havasu, AZ into the population count of LV. Kingman, AZ is some 70 miles south of LV and Lake Havasu is over 100 miles south of LV so I don’t understand this type of count. By this rational that means Phoenix could include everything from Prescott Valley to Casa Grande and the city of Tucson.:sly:

[FrancoRey]

:previous: The same reason Denver would put Greeley/Loveland in its population. It's 40 sum miles north, not connected urban. But, it would put us well over the 3 million mark for consolidated metro. Throw in the whole Front Range, we are at 4 million :omg:

[CANUC]

:previous: That’s my point. With these types of island hopping schemes Phoenix could claim a tremendous amount of land and call it’s self the Phoenix-Tucson-Mesa-Scottsdale-Prescott MSA with a population of 5,036,315. But that’s just insane considering Prescott, Casa Grande and Tucson are far removed from Phoenix with no current continues development to connect them.

[DenverInfill]

For the record, the greater Denver CSA included Weld County (not just Greeley) for the reason that the southwest corner of Weld County (the area where the cities of Erie, Dacono, Firestone, Frederick, etc. are) is clearly a contiguous part of the northern edge of the Denver metro area. But, since the census bureau uses just counties to form CSAs, all of Weld County, including Greeley, comes along for the ride. Fort Collins and Loveland are in Larimer County, and have never been a part of any Denver-Boulder metropolitan designation by the census bureau.

[GeorgeLV]

Um, why would Las Vegas include Mojave county into it’s measurement of population? Just wondering because by including Mojave county that would add Kingman and Lake Havasu, AZ into the population count of LV. Kingman, AZ is some 70 miles south of LV and Lake Havasu is over 100 miles south of LV so I don’t understand this type of count. By this rational that means Phoenix could include everything from Prescott Valley to Casa Grande and the city of Tucson.:sly:

Commuting patterns. That's why there's the need for that huge bridge across from Hoover Dam.

Also, that was the prior census definition.

[Utaaah!]

Commuting patterns. That's why there's the need for that huge bridge across from Hoover Dam.

Also, that was the prior census definition.

And that is why Urbanized Areas (http://www.demographia.com/dbx-usua.htm) or Zip Codes should be used to identify metro areas -- especially in the West -- instead of Counties. Wendover, on the UT/NV border, is in the Salt Lake City MSA. I doubt many people make that 2-hour commute each day.

Here is a link to some Census Bureau maps of Urbanized Areas:
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/maps/ua2kmaps.htm

[I-15]

Wendover, on the UT/NV border, is in the Salt Lake City MSA. I doubt many people make that 2-hour commute each day.
I make that commute quite often, but for "different" reasons than work. :haha:

[wrendog]

from your nickname, I woulda pegged you as a Las Vegas or Mesquite guy.. :)