[gttx]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s259/gtg326y/mandarinoriental.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s259/gtg326y/mandarin2.jpg

Mandarin Oriental Hotel
1138 Peachtree St. (between the 1100 Peachtree building and the Atlanta Women's Club)

From the preliminary DRC meeting:

Floor Count: 54
Height: ~700 ft
Hotel: 190 rooms
Residences: 67
Parking: 6 levels
Spa: 3 floors
Hospitality: ballrooms, conference areas
Retail: 10,300 sf, probably along entire Peachtree St. frontage and perhaps on Crescent Ave.

[RobMidtowner]

^10,300 sf of Retail according to Midtown Alliance:

http://www.midtownalliance.org/Documents/Midtown_Atl_Dev_Tour_07_04.pdf

[MarketsWork]

That is one very interesting building! Instead of a spire, the Mandarin appears to sport a crowning "blade" that cuts north-south in parallel with Peachtree Street. And the lower of those two funky angled protrusions creates a sort of awning over the front entrance. It's impossible to dislike the height or the density this shoe-horned project enhances. I like it.

[gttx]

I'd love to see the trademark Mandarin Oriental fan lit up on the top fin...

[ClaySkyHigh]

I am impressed !! I like it. Tons of style !! More ellaberate than Chicagos' Version. That long line that comes to a curve at the bottom looks like it could be a cool roller coaster ride or free fall ride !!! lol, I love it. More style for the ATL Skyline when built !!!

[Texas Tuff]

Congrats!!! I like it!!!! Atlanta never ceases to amaze me. You guys seem to end up with some of the best looking projects in the country. That will look very nice along with the other signature towers in Atlanta's already impressive skyline.
:banana: :cheers:

[Sulley]

OMG, Atlanta! You've done it again!

[micropundit]

Now Hines has to really go big time to keep up with the Joneses.

[holladay]

Is this getting BUILT?? wow!

[StevenW]

Very nice! :yes:

[Ersh]

Very nice!!! I'd love to watch this one rise! :cheers:

[gttx]

Is this getting BUILT?? wow!

It still needs to be approved by the city, but we can sure keep our fingers crossed! It would be excellent not only to have the tallest building built in Atlanta in probably 15 years, but to have it across the street from others that will get under way soon: the 2-block 12th and Midtown development that includes 3 40+ story buildings, the first phase of which is a 725,000 sq ft office tower and a hotel + condo mixed-use tower. Having these buildings, coupled with the towers already lining 14th Street, will make this area incredibly dense and certainly push the city towards its goal of creating an urban retail and destination district along Peachtree St. in Midtown.

Per its original DRC meeting, there are a few zoning variances that need to pass before approval, including impermeable surface coverage increasing from 85% to around 88.5%.

[marcus]

WOW! Another amazing project for Atlanta!

[kazpmk]

Looks nice!

[mSeattle]

Please build this beauty for all us who hate the mind-warfare boxes being built in our own cities (cough).

[mexibone]

wow. i'm LOVING this building! i really hope it gets done!

[kardon]

WOW...nice building. This area is going to be special...I just hope that the clubs in this area are able to stay, and not get pushed out by developers.

[jlhopkins]

it's great to see a new 700+ footer for atlanta, and i'm really liking this design.

[alphawolf]

props

[gttx]

From this morning's Atlanta Business Chronicle:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s259/gtg326y/mandarin2.jpg

It mentions that they are still in talks with Mandarin Oriental, but that regardless it will be a 5-star hotel operator. Mandarin would seem natural, since they are moving their US headquarters to an office on 10th Street. Also, it provides a few more details:

Residences: From $1 million to over $10 million
Spa: Dramatic, 3-story spa starting on the 20th floor and overlooking the Atlanta skyline
Groundbreaking: Early 2008

[Tombstoner]

:previous: I have to say, I thought it was alright, but not loving it until I saw this illumination scheme. Looks like it will tie in nicely with the Symphony Tower. :tup:

[shanthemanatl]

Wow, how elegant. Simply gorgeous!

[Thefigman]

This is a beauty!

[ThrashATL]

The fin lighting is just as I imagined... the condos in this thing are going to be ground zero for high end living in midtown.

With this, 1180 and 50 Allen Plaza, the spire age is officially over.

[RobMidtowner]

Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?

[tdawg]

holy crap! that is an AMAZING building!!!

[RobMidtowner]

Crown jewel of Midtown Mile
Atlanta Business Chronicle - April 13, 2007by Jill Lerner FriedmanStaff Writer
Byron E. Small
Scott Leventhal: “We think the luxury market for that location of the Midtown Mile is great,” the developer says.
View Larger One of the most breathtaking additions to Atlanta's skyline in recent years will be a 700-foot-tall illuminated wave shooting into the sky.

The Mandarin Oriental will feature a dramatic three-story spa and residences topping $10 million.

Planned at 1138 Peachtree St. in Midtown -- a stone's throw from another still-new architectural gem, the King & Spalding tower -- the Mandarin will be the tallest structure built in the city in nearly 15 years.

"This building will be an icon and a treasure for the city to enjoy and will absolutely be the crown jewel of the Midtown Mile," said Scott Leventhal, CEO of Tivoli Properties Inc., which will develop the hotel and luxury condo tower.

Atlanta-based Smallwood, Reynolds, Stewart, Stewart & Associates Inc., whose other hotel projects include the Ritz-Carlton Jakarta and the Westin Grand Bohemian Hotel, is the designer.

The Mandarin will join a swell of new high-end hotel and condo projects including Trump Towers Atlanta, St. Regis, The Mansion on Peachtree, the W Atlanta Downtown Hotel & Residences and Sovereign in Buckhead.

The 50-story tower will front Peachtree Street, between the 1100 Peachtree office tower and the Atlanta Woman's Club, just south of the intersection of 14th Street and Peachtree.

The building will have around 200 luxury hotel rooms, 70 residential units, a three-story spa and six stories of above-ground parking.

The space allotted the hotel and residences will be about equal.

A small street lobby off Peachtree opens to a shared lobby and internal motor court.

The main hotel lobby will be several floors up from the street.

There will also be an auto entrance on Crescent Avenue.

Leventhal said Atlanta-based Tivoli, which is also developing condo properties Aqua in Midtown and Mezzo in South Buckhead, has been in discussions with Mandarin Oriental for a long time, but he would not confirm the hotel operator has signed on to the project.

He added that the flag that ultimately flies from the building will definitely be a five-star operator.

Hong Kong-based Mandarin Oriental, known for its fan logo and five-star luxury, is in the process of moving its U.S. development offices to Atlanta from New York City, and is relocating at 10 10th Street, at 10th and West Peachtree streets, not far from 1138 Peachtree.

One of the most distinctive amenities at the property will be a three-story spa, 20 stories up, that will be suffused with natural light and awash in views of the Atlanta skyline.

"This will be one of the most dramatic spas in the world," Leventhal said.

The residences, which will average 3,000 square feet, will range from more than $1 million to more than $10 million.

"We think the luxury market for that location of the Midtown Mile is great," he said.

Although Atlanta is teeming with luxury condo projects, Mandarin Oriental may have an edge.

In February, more than 90 percent of the luxury condos at CityCenter's Mandarin Oriental Las Vegas sold in 14 days, generating more than $600 million, according to MGM Mirage, developer of the CityCenter community.

The Mandarin Oriental Las Vegas will feature roughly 227 condo units situated atop a 400-room hotel tower.

Tivoli has amassed an impressive record of its own -- and equally impressive funding partners -- since its founding in 2004.

The 84-unit Aqua is more than 90 percent sold and Leventhal expects to be sold out in the next two months.

Prices range from the $400,000s to $1.8 million, and the first units will deliver in August.

Mezzo, which just opened its sales office and will be completed next year, features 94 units in the same price range as Aqua.

Developer Jorge Perez, CEO of Miami-based The Related Group, and John Williams, founder of Atlanta-based apartment developer Post Properties Inc. (NYSE: PPS), are equity investors in Mezzo; and Perez has bought the first unit.

As for the Mandarin, Leventhal said he hopes to begin construction in the beginning of 2008 and deliver and open the building in fall 2010.

[gttx]

Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?

Condos at The Mansion on Peachtree are from $2.5 to $12.5 million. This is, more specifically, a first for Midtown. Some of the residences at the Four Seasons are pretty expensive, though...

[RobMidtowner]

Condos at The Mansion on Peachtree are from $2.5 to $12.5 million. This is, more specifically, a first for Midtown. Some of the residences at the Four Seasons are pretty expensive, though...

Good point gttx, it'll be exciting to see this part of midtown in 5 years.

[PremierAtlanta]

This is a gorgeous building. While I won't say that spires in Atlanta are over, we are definitely in a different phase. Now if we could just get a 900ft tall building like the Trump World Tower I would be happy. This building along with all the other buildings going up in Midtown will surely make the choice between living in Buckhead or Midtown more difficult. :cool:

[BANKofMANHATTAN]

That'll look nice on the skyline, for sure!

[SteveD]

Wow. The changes coming, or already in progress, for Buckhead, Midtown, and Downtown...are astonishing. I think all three skyscraper clusters, 5 years from now, will simply be breathtaking. There's also a good chance, I believe, that in that time frame or not too much longer, Downtown and Midtown will appear to have substantially merged. The 12th to 17th street cluster, with 12th and Peachtree, 1180, and the proposed Trump/Mandarin/MetLife towers, will have Midtown supplanting Downtown and the premier skyline cluster, if that hasn't already happened.

[PremierAtlanta]

Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?


I feel that the market can support such a lofty price tag. There will probably only be one or two at that price. Taking into consideration that Midtown has an amazing corporate presence (all the lawyers within walking distance), the increasing retail options, access to the subway, interstate access, access to some of the southeast best cultural options, great dining and two five star hotels....yes, this building and those units will sell well. It's great that they have limited the units to 70. This almost guarantees larger units. A necessity in that price range.

[trvlr70]

Wow $10 million condos...that's a first for Atlanta. Do y'all think the market can support this?

I think in time the market can and will absorb these prices. Mandarin, it seems, is pushing the prices that's for sure. The MO in Chicago, which in on the verge of breaking ground, has residences that are selling for as high as $23 million and surprisingly there are higher in the city. So, I definitely think Atlanta can handle these prices.

I need to see a better render of the tower, however. I'm not convinced yet. I hope this one is spectacular since Atlanta got screwed over with the Trump design, IMHO.

[BANKofMANHATTAN]

I'd love to see the trademark Mandarin Oriental fan lit up on the top fin...

and here you go...

the fans give it an interesting "crown" feature from the side angle.

a little reminiscent of BOA, Charlotte

enjoy!

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5839/mandarinorientalql2.jpg

[gttx]

Haha...that's kind of interesting. Although I just meant sticking the logo on the protruding fin thing, like they have on the Chicago building.

[ThrashATL]

A single fan/scallop might work well but all those "cooling fins" would be hideous on the skyline. Interesting photoshopping though, looks entirely legit in the rendering, nice job!

[micropundit]

Just saw the rendering on the cover of the ABC and this is hands down the premier high rise in the city. peroid. Just one thing in the article: Scott would not confirm a MO signing for 1138 Peach but promised a 5-star hotel. Hmmm.

[micropundit]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s259/gtg326y/mandarin2.jpg

[Labtec]

Wow, can't wait for it to be built. Last time I was excited was when I saw the 1180 proposal.

[gttx]

Heh....it's already posted at the beginning of this thread...

[ATLmangum]

By far the most impressing design of any on that are planned.

[Aleks]

its nice i like it why doesnt Seattle have a Mandarin Oriental?!?!
squigily!?!?

[Stratosphere 2020]

Jaw dropping tower! I like the lightning. Must be the best proposed tower for Midtown since 1180 peachtree. Atlanta should approve this definately.:yes: :tup:

[alleystreetindustry]

holy damnit. this is amazing. i thought the market was at a mild slow down a couple months ago, but with all of these new projects coming up and recent articles i have read, it seems the market is just now starting, even though it really began to "boom" in 2000. damn. boy how i love atlanta.

[Derek]

love the tower, hate the base :(

[smArTaLlone]

Here's a Mandarin rendering from SRSSA (http://www.srssa.com/ontheboards2.php)

[cabasse]

i'm seriously in love with this.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9174/onboards1138jj6.jpg

(^i took liberties, smartallone, and just swiped it right off their site)

[SteveD]

:previous: Wow...that lower right hand night rendering blows me away. A 700 ft shimmering blue/green and brilliant white slender beast...I love it.

[GregBear24]

That's really cool/unique/refreshing. I really like this one and the one here in chi-town. Congrats to ATL.

[Trae]

Wow. The changes coming, or already in progress, for Buckhead, Midtown, and Downtown...are astonishing. I think all three skyscraper clusters, 5 years from now, will simply be breathtaking. There's also a good chance, I believe, that in that time frame or not too much longer, Downtown and Midtown will appear to have substantially merged. The 12th to 17th street cluster, with 12th and Peachtree, 1180, and the proposed Trump/Mandarin/MetLife towers, will have Midtown supplanting Downtown and the premier skyline cluster, if that hasn't already happened.
I believe it already has (Midtown surpassing Downtown).

[Matty]

"Midtown" Atlanta? what the hell does that mean?

[RobMidtowner]

Matty, Midtown Atlanta is a neighborhood north of Downtown Atlanta.

[PremierAtlanta]

"Midtown" Atlanta? what the hell does that mean?


Midtown:

American Heritage Dictionary

mid·town (mĭd'toun') Pronunciation Key
n. A central portion of a city, between uptown and downtown.


Soooooooooooo, Midtown Atlanta is between Downtown Atlanta and Uptown Atlanta....or as we call it Buckhead. Of course unless you are Mr Dewberry...which in case Uptown is at Pershing Point. Midtown is from North Avenue north till Peachtree @ I-85. The eastern and western boundaries are always a little foggy.

Almost every city has a "midtown".....including NYC. Midtown Manhattan is between 14th St and 59 St. East of the Hudson River and west of the East River. I'm sure you already knew this since your avatar has the transit authority emblem present.

I hope this helped.

[john3eblover]

"Midtown" Atlanta? what the hell does that mean?

what the hell is this post for? are you an idiot?

[scguy]

Since when has Midtown surpassed Downtown? DT still has quite a few more buildings that are taller than anything in Midtown. Midtowns density isnt up to par with DT yet either but its working on it with all the new buildings going up...but DT isnt lacking there either.

[scguy]

I may have been off on that first statement, what i meant to say was on average the buildings are taller in DT Atlanta. If BofA is included in DT then there would be 4 buildings there over 700 ft compared to Midtowns 1.

[oldpainless]

With this, 1180 and 50 Allen Plaza, the spire age is officially over.
I like this design, but a part of me is saddened that Atlanta hasn't received any spires lately. Atlanta's skyline for many years was truely unique in its abundance of spired skyscrapers. Before 1180 and this building, Midtown had an almost complete spired skyline, which created a strange cohesion and identity. Maybe it was coincidence, maybe not, but I thought it was really cool to see nothing but spired, pointed buildings. It had a cool gothic kind of feel to it.

None the less, I like this building. I'll take em' any way they come!

[oldpainless]

Man, the Proscenium (sp ?) building thats between 1180 and the future Mandarin is going to look even more ridiculous once the Mandarin gets built. The scale on the building is way off for the area. I think the developers underestimated the boom Midtown would see 4-5 years in the future, and so they built way too small. The Proscenium is more on a scale of Colony Square and would look much more appropriate in Buckhead, or Perimeter, or Cumberland.

Maybe at the time it was constructed the market in Midtown was a lot less robust and so they ended up building small scale. But you just know when 1180 was getting built right next to it, the Proscenium people where probably thinking "we could have really unlocked the potential of this site a lot better than what we did", while they stared up at it in envy.

[Stratosphere 2020]

I like this design, but a part of me is saddened that Atlanta hasn't received any spires lately. Atlanta's skyline for many years was truely unique in its abundance of spired skyscrapers. Before 1180 and this building, Midtown had an almost complete spired skyline, which created a strange cohesion and identity. Maybe it was coincidence, maybe not, but I thought it was really cool to see nothing but spired, pointed buildings. It had a cool gothic kind of feel to it.

None the less, I like this building. I'll take em' any way they come!

I agree, though Atlanta can add some boxes, I believe it should continue to add spires and lit them up. The spire disease in Atlanta truely distinguishes its skyline from other skylines in the rest of the World.

[bATLbecks]

Man, the Proscenium (sp ?) building thats between 1180 and the future Mandarin is going to look even more ridiculous once the Mandarin gets built. The scale on the building is way off for the area. I think the developers underestimated the boom Midtown would see 4-5 years in the future, and so they built way too small. The Proscenium is more on a scale of Colony Square and would look much more appropriate in Buckhead, or Perimeter, or Cumberland.

Maybe at the time it was constructed the market in Midtown was a lot less robust and so they ended up building small scale. But you just know when 1180 was getting built right next to it, the Proscenium people where probably thinking "we could have really unlocked the potential of this site a lot better than what we did", while they stared up at it in envy.

Actually, I've read and seen elsewhere that Promenade, the building you're talking about was just one of several buildings to be built, and in fact, this one was to be the shortest.

http://www.atlantamodels.net/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.atlantamodels.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/att-promenade-fs.jpg&target=tlx_new

[john3eblover]

Proscenium is different than Promenade.

[Mojava]

I really like the design. Has this been officially announced yet. I did a google search and nothing comes up for Mandarin Oriental Atlanta.

[oldpainless]

Actually, I've read and seen elsewhere that Promenade, the building you're talking about was just one of several buildings to be built, and in fact, this one was to be the shortest.

http://www.atlantamodels.net/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.atlantamodels.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/att-promenade-fs.jpg&target=tlx_new
Thats an awesome picture of the whole development. I think its the Promenade buildings you're talking about. I was referring to the shorter building built at 14th and Peachtree back in 2001-2002.

[RobMidtowner]

I really like the design. Has this been officially announced yet. I did a google search and nothing comes up for Mandarin Oriental Atlanta.

Not officially but they're "talking" with Mandarin according to the ABC article.

P.S. WOW! I'm glad they never built the other two Promenades...one is definitely enough!

[cabasse]

^ gotta agree with that one, rob. i'm also glad one atlantic didn't turn out as originally planned either. both of those seemed to be almost like suburban office complexes in their original multi-tower designs; having more variety just seems more organic and urban, if i could possibly attribute the latter quality to describe midtown.

[ATLksuGUY]

Sweeeeet! I LOVE THIS BUILDING. Spire or not, originality continues to flourish in ATL architecture. Build it soon plz

[DanyCan]

oohhh ... nice curves ;)

[RobMidtowner]

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9174/onboards1138jj6.jpg

In the lower right-hand rendering, it looks like this building will really dwarf 1180 Peachtree. I can't wait to see this get built!

[shanthemanatl]

^^^^^^^

I think that's a bit of an illusion, since it's only gonna be about 50 feet taller than 1180.

However, I think the lighting scheme will certainly help it to stand out on the skyline.

[oldpainless]

This is Awesome. Its going to transform the skyline. I drove south down Peachtree through midtown last night and took a look at where its going right next to the Proscenium. 14th and Peachtree is going to be tizight with skyscrapers once this thing gets built.

[ATLarch]

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7770/mapsux1.jpg I guess the parking lot is the site.

[gttx]

Yeah, it is. Sadly, I guess this means we'll never see 13th street connected over to the Crescent side

On a lighter note, I've never realized that the nasty car wash on the lot across the street (future site of 12th and Midtown Phase III) actually had "Car Wash" painted on top of it. :haha:

[john3eblover]

man when is that car wash going to be replaced with a huge tower!!?

[SteveD]

On a lighter note, I've never realized that the nasty car wash on the lot across the street (future site of 12th and Midtown Phase III) actually had "Car Wash" painted on top of it. :haha:


Yeah, that's wild. I just zoomed in on the 1010 webcam and you can actually see it! What an eyesore for people in the surrounding towers!

[RobMidtowner]

This area will be very dense when 12th and Midtown is completed.

[ThrashATL]

This area will be very dense when 12th and Midtown is completed.

That's no way to talk about residents of this area, we have many of them on this board, have some sensitivity! :D

[ltsmotorsport]

Great looking tower. Is there a larger rendering of it and its surroundings?

[ThrashATL]

Great looking tower. Is there a larger rendering of it and its surroundings?

Did you see this one earlier in the thread? About all there is right now
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9174/onboards1138jj6.jpg

[ATLmangum]

man when is that car wash going to be replaced with a huge tower!!?

I think phase III of 12th and Midtown will go there.

[ATLBlaxican]

So that pannel looking thing will be on both sides??? This makes me even more excited because I thought it would only be on the side fronting Peachtree St. So, we will be able to see the design form the connector as well, awsome!!!

[ltsmotorsport]

Did you see this one earlier in the thread? About all there is right now
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9174/onboards1138jj6.jpg

Yeah, I was just hoping there was a larger image of the lower right render floating around somewhere.

[alleystreetindustry]

this and 12th and midtown are great projects, but midtown still needs to fill in with mid-rise and high-rise before it becomes "dense". right now, across from one atlantic center, you have einsteins and a parking lot, next door to that an abandoned home, and so on and so on. i feel 'tall' is nice, but if alot of the lots sitting around in atlanta were replaced with not so tall projects like the mertopolis, atlanta would be on a roll. i want more dense than more tall, if we have a 1,000 ft. building next to a walgreens, what good does that do? for me, dense is better than tall. besides, think about atlanta if every lot between peachtree and the connector from 5th street to 17th was filled with 200-350 ft somethings, atlanta would be gorgeous.

[Stephenapolis]

That is one gorgeous proposal!

[SteveD]

this and 12th and midtown are great projects, but midtown still needs to fill in with mid-rise and high-rise before it becomes "dense". right now, across from one atlantic center, you have einsteins and a parking lot, next door to that an abandoned home, and so on and so on. i feel 'tall' is nice, but if alot of the lots sitting around in atlanta were replaced with not so tall projects like the mertopolis, atlanta would be on a roll. i want more dense than more tall, if we have a 1,000 ft. building next to a walgreens, what good does that do? for me, dense is better than tall. besides, think about atlanta if every lot between peachtree and the connector from 5th street to 17th was filled with 200-350 ft somethings, atlanta would be gorgeous.

:previous: I understand your perspective and agree. That doesn't stop me from craving and lusting after TALL, though, and I'm delighted that this one may soar over 700 ft! This is, after all, a forum for skyscraper enthusiasts, and a proposal for a new 700 footer certainly fits the bill! I just can't get as excited about the 200 to 300 footers!

[alleystreetindustry]

I understand your perspective and agree. That doesn't stop me from craving and lusting after TALL, though, and I'm delighted that this one may soar over 700 ft! This is, after all, a forum for skyscraper enthusiasts, and a proposal for a new 700 footer certainly fits the bill! I just can't get as excited about the 200 to 300 footers!


i understand, and plenty of 'tall' ones are nice.

[Stratosphere 2020]

this and 12th and midtown are great projects, but midtown still needs to fill in with mid-rise and high-rise before it becomes "dense". right now, across from one atlantic center, you have einsteins and a parking lot, next door to that an abandoned home, and so on and so on. i feel 'tall' is nice, but if alot of the lots sitting around in atlanta were replaced with not so tall projects like the mertopolis, atlanta would be on a roll. i want more dense than more tall, if we have a 1,000 ft. building next to a walgreens, what good does that do? for me, dense is better than tall. besides, think about atlanta if every lot between peachtree and the connector from 5th street to 17th was filled with 200-350 ft somethings, atlanta would be gorgeous.

Atlanta is already gorgeous, you mean it would be more gorgeous.;)

[MidtownMile]

:previous: I understand your perspective and agree. That doesn't stop me from craving and lusting after TALL, though, and I'm delighted that this one may soar over 700 ft! This is, after all, a forum for skyscraper enthusiasts, and a proposal for a new 700 footer certainly fits the bill! I just can't get as excited about the 200 to 300 footers!

There is also a huge benefit to having a core of development. With these projects, the stretch between 14th and 10th will start the development. Those blocks will be the draw. Then, it will likely trickle down Peachtree toward Spire, then lateral over to W Peachtree, and finally finish out south to North Ave. and the Fox. It is better to build densely in clusters to create a hub of people when you are trying to attract retail. If you can say you have a Mandarin, several hundred condos, and high end restaurants already on THE BLOCK, people lease space (not even mentioning the Four Seasons, W, Palomar, and almost 1000s of condos within walking distance).

[smArTaLlone]

I noticed they show a different angle and removed the Mandarin logo since the deal is not yet signed. I can't tell if they intend to extend 13th street or if that's just a curve in the street.


http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9174/onboards1138jj6.jpg

http://www.srssa.com/img/home/onboards_1138.jpg

[SteveD]

:previous: Interesting. Might they only have the logo on the west elevation, to be visible to Andrea Connector traffic, and not the east elevation?

[alleystreetindustry]

I noticed they show a different angle and removed the Mandarin logo since the deal is not yet signed. I can't tell if they intend to extend 13th street or if that's just a curve in the street.


i think they may extend the street because the building appears to be very narrow, and the space between it, the proscenium, and 1100 peachtree seems vast for such such a narrow base. some of you might not think so, but i think it is likely.

[RobMidtowner]

:previous:
I don't think so because if you look at the rendering, the building directly south of the site (is that the 1100 peachtree building?) is almost directly adjacent to the building. And I remember Terminus saying something a while back about them building to the property line. Is this correct?

[micropundit]

My .02$: MO is not going to 1138; it will end up a Shangri La or something similar.

[MarketsWork]

My .02$: MO is not going to 1138; it will end up a Shagri La or something similar.

Based upon...?

[micropundit]

Just my gut: these deals are worked on years in advance and if they haven't signed them by now.. . Plus , if you re-read the ABC article,Scott says IF it isn't a MO it will be a 5-star operator(?) and no other media has picked the story up even after the front page piece ; no real estate publications like Globestreet.com, nothing. So there you have it-my gut.

[bATLbecks]

So, supposedly there's been discussion on other Atlanta threads that this design/building is not to be the Mandarin Oriental. Does that mean they chose another site or that they are not building one in Atlanta?

[smArTaLlone]

Even in the premature ABC article, its clearly stated that no deal has been signed.

I've been told that these hotels deals can be pretty complicated. I recall that it was probably more than a year after it was known that Barry was in talks with the W for Allen Plaza before the deal was signed.

[Tuckerman]

The Mandarin Oriental's organizational website shows developments up through 2010. Atlanta is not in the list.

[jeffschade3]

The Mandarin Oriental's organizational website shows developments up through 2010. Atlanta is not in the list.

The American proposals only go up through 2009, and if I remember correctly, 1138 Peachtree wasn't due to be delivered until 2010, since as of yet there has been no activity on the site. Construction was rumored to start in 2008 anyway.

From the latest information I've heard though, 1138 is indeed not going to be a MO, however I do believe they are going to be building in Atlanta somewhere (they are moving their headquarters down here...why wouldn't they have a hotel here?).

Rumors have thus far pointed farther north to Buckhead for the current time but pretty much everything is speculation at this point until a firm announcement is made. At any rate, I wouldn't expect it to be operational until at least 2010...

[alleystreetindustry]

i don't understand as to why mandarin oriental would move their headquarters to the city but not build a crown jewel on peachtree. it would be a great project to kick start the relocation and let atlantans know who they are.