[ICEVET]

I was looking through some proposals and was just wondering if anyone knows the status of that 319 houston st. building? I saw the location and thought a 300 footer would look great in that area.

SKW, myself and others have been asking about this ever since Andres Andujar posted info back in May '07 that the proposal for a 27-story condo/hotel development was going to close on June 1. At that time, the positive news was that the Historic Design and Review Board actually approved the conceptual plan. It was supposed to include participation by the "W" hotel chain. Later, when nothing happened, I believe Andres updated that by saying it was not dead, just postponed.
None of our subsequent inquiries has prompted any response, which I take as meaning there is at least the chance that it has gone "toes up". Can anyone (Andres, you must know, you're in the loop) confirm the current status of this project? Dead or alive? DOA? DNR?

Remember... start off every day with a smile and get it over with.

[KevinFromTexas]

It's still the Drury Plaza - they built more rooms on top of the garage.

Eww, and it's yellow? That's not doing that building a bit of justice!

[ydoc14]

Eww, and it's yellow? That's not doing that building a bit of justice!

Hahaha....no I don't think they've finished the facade yet lol.

[KevinFromTexas]

Ok, good. I figured it was just construction materials, insulation or whatever, so that's good. Are they redoing the facade on the parking garage? I remember back when Bank One was there that garage was quite unsightly.

[ydoc14]

Ok, good. I figured it was just construction materials, insulation or whatever, so that's good. Are they redoing the facade on the parking garage? I remember back when Bank One was there that garage was quite unsightly.

Yeah that part's been finished for quite a while

[ydoc14]

Hey guys, am I the only who's noticed that the main roof of the Hyatt looks like it's about 20' shorter than the roof of the Marriott...............maybe the 424' GH figure is for the roof and not the mech. penthouse. If so, then the Marriott would still be 441' to the roof.

If it's 37 floors all the way to the top of the penthouse on the Hyatt, then how could the Hyatt be 20' shorter than the Weston when the Weston has 5 less floors????????????????????????????

[KevinFromTexas]

The Weston is an office building. Typically office buildings have more space between each floor than residential buildings and hotels do.

A good example of this is there's a residential building under construction in Austin. Now it's going to be taller, but before they were planning for it to be 332 feet tall with 28 floors. Right nextdoor is an office building that is 320 feet tall with only 22 floors. So the office building had 6 less floors but would have been only 12 feet shorter. Since then they increased the number of floors in the residential building to 37 floors. But even so that building will only now be 412 feet tall.

[ydoc14]

The Weston is an office building. Typically office buildings have more space between each floor than residential buildings and hotels do.

A good example of this is there's a residential building under construction in Austin. Now it's going to be taller, but before they were planning for it to be 332 feet tall with 28 floors. Right nextdoor is an office building that is 320 feet tall with only 22 floors. So the office building had 6 less floors but would have been only 12 feet shorter. Since then they increased the number of floors in the residential building to 37 floors. But even so that building will only now be 412 feet tall.

Yeah that's true. I kinda thought that the spacing was more in office buildings, that would explain the extra space between windows on the Weston. I bet floor to ceiling in office buildings is 10' instead of 8' too.

[ICEVET]

I was looking through some proposals and was just wondering if anyone knows the status of that 319 houston st. building? I saw the location and thought a 300 footer would look great in that area.

SKW, myself and others have been attempting to answer your question since Andres Andujar posted info back in May '07 that a deal to build a 27-story condo/hotel complex at that location was going to close on June 1. Around a month or two later, after nothing happened, he posted additional info to the effect that the deal was not dead, but merely postponed. Since then, subsequent inquiries have not resulted in any further information on this project, and that would not seem to bode well. Can anyone on the forum (Andres, you're the dude in the loop) advise as to what the current status of 319 E. Houston is? DOA? DNR?


Remember... start off everyday with a smile and get it over with.

[ydoc14]

If the Marriott really is 441' to the roof and 546' to the spires, then that would put the pyramids around 494'. If you look at pictures of the Marriott from far enough away (i.e. matttwentyeight's new pics) and measure the distance between the roof and spires, then you will see that the pyramids are right at the midpoint. So, if this was true, and the mech. penthouse on the Hyatt appears to be slightly higher than the pyramids, I would say the penthouse could be 500'.

[Paul in S.A TX]

Aren't they now saying it is 37 floors?

[ydoc14]

Aren't they now saying it is 37 floors?

Yep, I'm hoping that Hyatt or Faulkner or Arquitectionica or whoever will release the height when the building's finished.

[KevinFromTexas]

Aren't they now saying it is 37 floors?

Quote from Sejie who works with the company that will manage the hotel. The 37 number is including mechanical levels.
Post number 1,025 in the highrise construction thread:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=80919&page=52

The very top of the tower is designated as level 37 because of the various machine rooms and elevator mechanical rooms above the cabana level which is level 34.

In Austin our new tallest, the Austonian, will have 4 levels inside the mechanical penthouse, so if you counted those, the building would officially have 60 floors. Frost Bank Tower also has two levels inside the mechanical penthouse, that would make it 35 floors.

Typically mechanical levels are not counted in official floor numbers.

[Xeelee]

looks good.

[ydoc14]

Taken on 1/14 by sabry1 @ Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2393/2215761126_e729a71262_b.jpg

[Wattleigh]

:previous:

I've seen that sclupture in a bunch of the DT San Antonio pix over the years. Is there any background on it, history, etc...? I kinda like it.

[ArizonaTexan]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0PCH/is_5_3/ai_113053666

[J.Dskyhigh]

:previous:

I've seen that sclupture in a bunch of the DT San Antonio pix over the years. Is there any background on it, history, etc...? I kinda like it.

A symbol of friendship from Mexico i guess.

[ydoc14]

Both taken by Photogrl2007 @ Flickr

Look what's peeking over Hotel Contessa :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2272/2218794446_4cb67b7310_b.jpg


:slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2218768666_99344ea1c8_b.jpg

[verbl]

^^^^Sweet shot!!! Our skyline looks real long lol I love those pics thx a lot.

GH is looking good fellas

[verbl]

Oh yeah illegal lane change much???

[matttwentyeight]

^^^^Sweet shot!!! Our skyline looks real long lol I love those pics thx a lot.

GH is looking good fellas

it totally does look long, doesn't it?!?!!!

[verbl]

^^^ Yeah for sure dude. Kinda weird

[KevinFromTexas]

Great pics.

[Christianmx]

:previous:

I've seen that sclupture in a bunch of the DT San Antonio pix over the years. Is there any background on it, history, etc...? I kinda like it.


It was donated to the city by the government of Mexico. It was made by Mexican sculptor Sebastian who seems to have one of his creations in about every city in Mexico... I'm not a big fan of his work personally. This one seems a little out of place considering the surroundings IMO.

[kornbread]

It was donated to the city by the government of Mexico. It was made by Mexican sculptor Sebastian who seems to have one of his creations in about every city in Mexico... I'm not a big fan of his work personally. This one seems a little out of place considering the surroundings IMO.

It was not donated by the Mexican Governament.

Link from earlier post
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0PCH/is_5_3/ai_113053666

Q. Who commissioned you to create the sculpture and why?

A. I was commissioned at the request of the Association of Mexican Entrepreneurs of San Antonio to design the sculpture because I have made numerous urban monumental sculptures for Japan, Canada, and Latin America. I made the sculpture in Mexico, and it was shipped to San Antonio in six pieces. Subsequently, the Torch of Friendship was presented to the City of San Antonio as a gift from the Association.

[sakyle04]

The second shot (with the long skyline) is nice. What we need to hope for now is a multi-dimensional skyline, something where buildings pop from behind buildings - like iin the first shot.

Both taken by Photogrl2007 @ Flickr

Look what's peeking over Hotel Contessa :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2272/2218794446_4cb67b7310_b.jpg


:slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob: :slob:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/2218768666_99344ea1c8_b.jpg

[Christianmx]

It was not donated by the Mexican Governament.

Link from earlier post
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0PCH/is_5_3/ai_113053666

I have a friend who works at the Mexican consulate in San Antonio and she told me this... just wait until I get a hold of her!!! :hell: :hell: :hell:

:haha:

[J.Dskyhigh]

That last pic. does make our skyline look big but it sad that its not.:slob: If you drive on the highway around Downtown ,you pass through it quick. Hopefully the expansion of the river on the northside of downtown will expand some buildings that way. Enlarge the cities downtown area.:tup:

[ydoc14]

Both taken by duncanmm @ Flickr

Not really related to skyscrapers...but it looks like the Red Roof Inn got a paint job. MUCH BETTER imo...way better than it's former white and red self. Now the other side of 37 will have some color before you get to Vidorra haha.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/2230157803_c861a79ce2_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2230157369_d651637e71_b.jpg

[verbl]

Great pic of river center. I think GH is looking like a great addition to our city.

[sakyle04]

Great photo.

Imagine what this might look like in a few more years if the RiverCenter people do in fact develop their existing parking garage in to a luxury hotel.

It would put another 300-400 footer there and really work on the density of the area (which already feels pretty dense, 3-4 stories, on street level)....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2230157369_d651637e71_b.jpg

[verbl]

^^^Dude that is gonna be a great day, do you guys know what that yellow landing pad looking thing on top of the GH is???? I have not seen that yet.

[verbl]

When you say the parking garage are you talking about the one in front of the marriot or it might be on the side of it it ha been a while. ( across from the denny's?) lol I sound like a noob

[ydoc14]

^^^Dude that is gonna be a great day, do you guys know what that yellow landing pad looking thing on top of the GH is???? I have not seen that yet.

They're enclosing those parts because they're actually the top rooms of the penthouse condos.

[JACKinBeantown]

Behind the blue roof?

[sakyle04]

When you say the parking garage are you talking about the one in front of the marriot or it might be on the side of it it ha been a while. ( across from the denny's?) lol I sound like a noob

from what i understand, they would take the vacant lot on the NE corner and make it a parking garage and put the hotel where the current Rivercenter Comedy Club garage is (bordering Commerce Street). hope that makes sense.

(the existing parking garage on the north side of the property would remain unchanged.)

[sakyle04]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/stories/MYSA100406.01A.rivercenter.redo.35e79a8.html

There is the article that talks all about it... I'll try to post the diagram.

[sakyle04]

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z83/theburkholders/rivecenter.jpg

See? If only....

:slob: :slob: :slob:

[Dom"n"Converse]

Good luck with that; so long as we have nothing but old people on the Historic and Design Review Comission they'll fight everything new, unless it's tan or light brown.

[SAguy]

Dom"n"Converse-Good luck with that; so long as we have nothing but old people on the Historic and Design Review Comission they'll fight everything new, unless it's tan or light brown.

I believe city council reduce the number HDRC mbrs last years. Also, the original Grand Hyatt model never made it to HDRC. The change was done by Faulkner USA.

[ydoc14]

I believe city council reduce the number HDRC mbrs last years. Also, the original Grand Hyatt model never made it to HDRC. The change was done by Faulkner USA.

Wishful thinking but I'd like to see the original Grand Hyatt design go up in place of the parking garage.

[SADWatcher]

I just noticed today driving up 281 that it looks like a crane is up at The Broadway site.:tup:

[SAguy]

Wishful thinking but I'd like to see the original Grand Hyatt design go up in place of the parking garage.



Wishful thinking??? What are you referring to? City Council did reduce the number of HDRC members last year. That was moved push by our Mayor.

[ydoc14]

Wishful thinking??? What are you referring to? City Council did reduce the number of HDRC members last year. That was moved push by our Mayor.

No, I'm not saying that I don't think the old design could get approved now, I feel like it could since the HDRC was reduced -- what I'm sayin is I doubt that Ashkenazy would really use the old design...although if they were smart they would :cool:

[ydoc14]

It would put another 300-400 footer there and really work on the density of the area (which already feels pretty dense, 3-4 stories, on street level)....



Basically the same angle here, but since you were talking about how the area seems dense, this picture makes it look a little denser

Taken by sebastian6 @ Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/2233356336_8af25cd2b2_b.jpg

[KevinFromTexas]

That red building in the lower left is interesting.

[sirkingwilliam]

No, I'm not saying that I don't think the old design could get approved now, I feel like it could since the HDRC was reduced -- what I'm sayin is I doubt that Ashkenazy would really use the old design...although if they were smart they would :cool:

I would have to assume the design of their hotel would be a mixture of old and new and be a hybrid of the original Joske's facade (that will be restored) and new/modern/glassy of the Rivercenter Mall.

[sirkingwilliam]

Here's the original Joske facade that will be restored.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Joskespostcard2.jpg/800px-Joskespostcard2.jpg

[verbl]

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z83/theburkholders/rivecenter.jpg

See? If only....

:slob: :slob: :slob:

This does help a lot thank you:)

[JACKinBeantown]

Wow, I never knew Joske's had an old facade. I only knew about the white one, which I kinda like. But the old oine is cool too. They don't make 'em like that anymore.

[JACKinBeantown]

Found another one on Wikipedia.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/Joskespostcard1.jpg

[ydoc14]

The original facade is beautiful and I can't wait to see it restored --- I know it's gonna do great things for the area combined with the mall redevelopment.

[adtobias]

does anyone one know what hotel is going up there

[METALMiKE]

does anyone one know what hotel is going up there

I remember reading an article awhile back that stated they were aiming for Ritz-Carlton but nothing is confirmed atm.

[alexjon]

That red building in the lower left is interesting.

I think that's the newest building on that particular block-- the white things are so tacky.

[adtobias]

that would be a nice hotel for san antonio

[sirkingwilliam]

Does anyone know when the 10-story Staybridge in Cattleman's Square is going to break ground? Last I heard it was to be complete by the first or second quarter of 2009.

[ydoc14]

Click on this link for some really sweet night shots of ToA, MR, and GH
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpolanco/sets/72157603407396416/

[verbl]

looked like a rad night to go photo hunting

[KevinFromTexas]

Click on this link for some really sweet night shots of ToA, MR, and GH
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpolanco/sets/72157603407396416/

Wow, those are gorgeous!

[ydoc14]

Wow, those are gorgeous!

This one's my favorite. Really impressive angle. The MR and GH together are really shaping up SA.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpolanco/2092313277/in/set-72157603407396416/[

[Schertz1]

Headed to San Antonio/Schertz today for the week. I should take a few pix. Hope I can figure out this pano feature.

[sirkingwilliam]

Headed to Schertz? You don't live there?

[Schertz1]

I live in Houston.

[ydoc14]

I live in Houston.

Do you think you could snap a shot of the skyline from I-10 E? Say near the AT&T Center?

[sakyle04]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA020508.01A.FedCourthouse.37e99f9.html

River dropped as new site for fed courthouse
Web Posted: 02/05/2008 02:26 AM CST

Scott Huddleston
Express-News

A 5-acre tract beside the San Antonio River has been eliminated as a potential site for a new federal courthouse.

That means a proposed new courthouse will either stay in the HemisFair area or replace San Antonio's 45-year-old police headquarters.

Monday's announcement by the U.S. General Services Administration ends a battle that neighborhood and historical preservationists had waged against plans for a new courthouse by the river, at the northwest corner of Dwyer Street and Durango Boulevard.

Besides an impact on an area where walkers and joggers like to exercise near a landscaped section of the river, opponents also were concerned about the future of two historic homes and hundreds of venerable trees.

"This is great news," said Marcia Ince, San Antonio Conservation Society president.

Of the three final sites in the running, the one federal officials dubbed the "river site" caused the most heartburn, Ince said.

"We definitely did not want it on the river because of the historic structures," she said.

Two sites remain under consideration: a 2-acre spot in HemisFair Park, just east of the existing U.S. courthouse, and the San Antonio Police Department's 7-acre headquarters at 214 W. Nueva St.

That in turn would create a need for a new modern police station, which some city officials would welcome.

Shala Geer-Smith, regional spokeswoman for the General Services Administration in Fort Worth, said the agency decided to drop the river site after a draft environmental assessment study raised significant problems.

"It was obvious that it was third on the list, way far down from the other sites," said Geer-Smith.

Concerns about historic preservation, neighborhood compatibility and cost, and a "community outcry" at a public hearing in November left the agency with a sense that the river site wouldn't work, she said. Although the services administration welcomes comments in response to the draft study through Feb. 29, it's asking people to focus on the HemisFair and police headquarters sites.

The agency hopes to make its final selection this spring.

Its 83-page draft study, now posted on the Internet, cites concerns about the river site, including two Queen Anne-style houses that would have to be razed, moved or preserved. One is occupied. The other, at 408 Dwyer St., is a law office. The site also is near other historic homes and structures, including the old U.S. Army arsenal that serves as H-E-B headquarters.

There also are possible "archeological deposits," particularly from the mid-1800s, and potential conflicts with the city's land-use plans for the area.

Federal officials have said the current circular courthouse, which served as the U.S. Pavilion during HemisFair '68, is too small for the courts in the western district of Texas and other agencies that work with them.

Carla Morrison, a lawyer who restored the former Sanchez House, a two-story house built on Dwyer in the early 1900s, led a "Save Our River" campaign against the river site. As of Monday, 170 anonymous and signed comments, most in opposition to the site, had been posted on a Web site the campaign created last spring.

What began as a fight to stop acquisition of her building through eminent domain became a crusade to protect a neighborhood sandwiched between downtown tourism and homes to the south, she said.

"It's really a neighborhood that's coming back," said Morrison, who handles child abuse and neglect cases.

"It's been a great community effort," she said. "We should all give ourselves a pat on the back for saving our river."

U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez, the judicial liaison in the site selection, said his primary concerns about the river site were parking and potential flooding. Although it made a short list from an original list of 18 sites when the search began eight years ago, it didn't offer the strengths of the HemisFair and police headquarters sites, Rodriguez said.

"All along, the river site has been a distant third for consideration," he said.

[sirkingwilliam]

This is good news and now it looks like the combined Federal Courthouse/Police HQ/Fire fighters HQ is closer to becoming a reality.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140684

[sakyle04]

This is good news. That site was wrong from the get go. Hopefully the police site is selected and not the one in Hemisfair Park.

why do you prefer that one? just curious.:tup:

[sakyle04]

This is good news and now it looks like the combined Federal Courthouse/Police HQ/Fire fighters HQ is closer to becoming a reality.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140684

^^^^^^i do see that link...but i wonder if the hemisfair site (2 acres) wouldn't be more of a vertical necessity than the police hq (7 acres)... :shrug:

[sirkingwilliam]

why do you prefer that one? just curious.:tup:

Because of the 3 combined facilities. I believe the city will go this route if the Police HQ is selected. Also, the sooner those buildings on Hemisfair Park are vacated the sooner it can become a turn urban park for downtown.

[sakyle04]

Because of the 3 combined facilities. I believe the city will go this route if the Police HQ is selected. Also, the sooner those buildings on Hemisfair Park are vacated the sooner it can become a turn urban park for downtown.

ever see those sites (if abandoned by the gov) torn down and used for commercial property...i.e. office, hotel or residential towers?

i fear that somehow the buildings links to 1968 and hemisfair may keep them as permanent , low-slung fixtures of that area.

[sirkingwilliam]

^^^^^^i do see that link...but i wonder if the hemisfair site (2 acres) wouldn't be more of a vertical necessity than the police hq (7 acres)... :shrug:

I think there would be more incentive to go vertical with the Police HQ site as it wouldn't be one sole building housing all three departments but instead three separate structures on the seven acres that would connected via a plaza.

[sirkingwilliam]

ever see those sites (if abandoned by the gov) torn down and used for commercial property...i.e. office, hotel or residential towers?

i fear that somehow the buildings links to 1968 and hemisfair may keep them as permanent , low-slung fixtures of that area.

I don't see that. I could possibly see them converted by the city into something that could be connected to the park, i.e. a learning center or museum of some sort. I could see them easily torn down, wasn't the Hemisfair Arena torn down?

[verbl]

A new police HQ will be great our old one looks like it sells pol supplies lol

[KevinFromTexas]

I'd be against any height within Hemisfair Park if there was a chance it would block or cramp views from the tower. I'd like to see more park space there as sirkingwilliam said. More landscaping with flowers and trees (tropical plants). Walkways and park benches. And maybe some more water features. There aren't a lot of parks on the east side of downtown. The Alamo sort of doubles as one, and then you have Hemisfair Park. Other than that there are few in the central area. Of course there are others farther west and north.

Hemisfair Arena torn down?

Yes. It occupied some of the land where the convention center now sits.

[The Nano]

Has anyone heard anything about this Witte Museum master plan? i know it really doesnt belong in here but i didnt want to start a whole new thread for it.
http://www.wittemuseum.org/Capital%20Campaign/Master%20Plan%201.html

[ydoc14]

Taken on 2/8 by jgsatx @ Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/2253297766_3ba281cd62_o.jpg

[sirkingwilliam]

I like it more and more each day.

[ydoc14]

I like it more and more each day.

Me too. I'm glad that it still looks tall even from Hemisfair Park.

[KevinFromTexas]

Did anyone realize that fountain is actually part of the original mono-rail that Hemisfair Park had? I read that somewhere. And yeah, the GH looks alright there.

[METALMiKE]

Did anyone realize that fountain is actually part of the original mono-rail that Hemisfair Park had? I read that somewhere. And yeah, the GH looks alright there.

Wow thanks for that little piece of info. I never knew that.:) and yeah the GH is lookin really nice.

[KevinFromTexas]

Wow thanks for that little piece of info. I never knew that.:) and yeah the GH is lookin really nice.

Yeah, I was really surprised by that. Had no idea.

Here's where I saw it. Click the link, (PDF file), and scroll down to page 8. This has info on other structures in the park too.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:ahfwl5qHomIJ:www.sanantonio.gov/PLANNING/pdf/hemisfair/09b_site_inventory.pdf+Hemisfair+Park+fountain+was+part+of+monorail&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[ydoc14]

Here's today's traffic cam from 281/St. Mary's

The monster has devoured the Marriott, and is waging war on Tower of the Americas! ;)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2333/cctv0281s144321us281atstp5.jpg

[verbl]

Haha good:)

[ydoc14]

Today's traffic cam:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5585/cctv0037s139868ih37atihkr5.jpg

[verbl]

Like somebody said before it's the great wall of San Antonio :) I love it

[verbl]

Anyone of you fellow San Antonians have new pics of the Vistanna? If I was back in SA I would contribute pics but of course........ I love that new building

[necropolis]

Anyone of you fellow San Antonians have new pics of the Vistanna? If I was back in SA I would contribute pics but of course........ I love that new building

Well the Vistana website has a webcam that you can look @ and it's updated every few minutes too... http://www.thevistana.com/

[Dom"n"Converse]

Does anyone have any idea what the pricing starts at?

[METALMiKE]

Does anyone have any idea what the pricing starts at?

$650 per month.

[ydoc14]

A new pedestrian bridge will be built across the Riverwalk linking the Drury Plaza to Main Plaza.

Seen in the HDRC Agenda for Feb. 20

The applicant is requesting final approval...the structure will be clad with punched bronze and copper panels...either linear flourescent or LED fixtures are being considered. For the torchere type fixtures, either LED or incandescent sources are being considered.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9066/s4021120jw1.jpg

[verbl]

Rad is it gonna be like the under pass over by the Alamodome? ( the one with all the LEDs) that bridge is gonna look awesome.

[adtobias]

any new highrises for downtown

[The Nano]

I just thought id let yall know that i read in the SA Business Journal that Piazza San Lorenzo will break ground this spring. But who knows, theyve been saying it will break ground for quite a while now. Ill attempt to scan the article sometime later in the week.

[ydoc14]

Some new GH pics. The first one can't be posted, so you'll have to click the link.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/louloublue/2269923131/

Taken by Nathan Huth @ Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2269/2272612925_925e752c3a_b.jpg

[verbl]

Those were good flicks. I love the ones she took were river north is going to be.

[KevinFromTexas]

Austin's KXAN News 36 has a collection of web cams from various cities. There's several web cams of San Antonio listed.

Click on the links to check it out. The website has it set up so you can view the images as a time lapse. This is neat since the camera is pointing towards the Grand Hyatt. The time lapse works for all the cameras.

Click on the link below.
http://wwc.instacam.com/instacamimg/KENST/KENST_l.jpg?rnd=15-021820081901
http://web.live.weatherbug.com/LiveCameras/1/LiveCameras.aspx?no_cookie_zip=78701&no_cookie_stat=KXANT&no_cookie_world_stat=&zcode=z4505&camera_zip=78701&camera_id=KENST&lid=CLI

http://wwc.instacam.com/instacamimg/SNCPS/SNCPS_l.jpg?rnd=15-021820081901
http://wwc.instacam.com/instacamimg/SNCPS/SNCPS_l.jpg?rnd=15-021820081901

Main page is here:
http://web.live.weatherbug.com/LiveCameras/1/LiveCameras.aspx?no_cookie_zip=78701&no_cookie_stat=KXANT&no_cookie_world_stat=&zcode=z4505&camera_group=1&camera_zip=78701&show_list=1&lid=CENLIST

[Mopacs]

Sneak preview of a thread I'm putting together. Check this out, from 20 years ago next month... the old Hemisfair arena..and the old garage. Now home to the convention center and Grand Hyatt. The Rivercenter mall had just opened and the Marriott was still u/c:

http://images32.fotki.com/v1091/photos/5/54967/234517/SanAntonioRivercenter88_03a-vi.jpg

[Schertz1]

The web cam pix also shows what I noticed when I was last in San Antonio, the red lights on top of the marriott spires are very close to the bottom of the house on the TOA and quite a bit taller then the GH.