[Jerry of San Fran]

From my window (telephoto) - a couple of days ago I took this photo. As of today the crane is assembled. As you can see it will be a few months before I have any significant photos to share from this view.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6392997305_e8b1a83923.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6392997305/)

[Jerry of San Fran]

From my window - some assembly required!:

Crane Jacking Itself Up

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6111/6407018393_d32a5bb214_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6407018393/)

Crane Fully Erect

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6100/6407018397_a88b9ea7c6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6407018397/)

[1977]

Thanks for the update!

[Jerry of San Fran]

I noticed today the pilings at the site so I got off the bus on Market Street and took a few pictures. The second photo shows up close the machine that turns or screws the pilings into the ground - quite a fascinating operation. They are not pounded into the earth as I've seen in past construction.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6504008907_f1b6fffccd_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6504008907/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6504009195_1549ea0084_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6504009195/)

[peanut gallery]

Thanks for the update, Jerry. Did you notice anything new around the corner at Market and 10th?

[CyberEric]

Thanks! Excited to see this underway.

[Jerry of San Fran]

Thanks for the update, Jerry. Did you notice anything new around the corner at Market and 10th?

Peanut Gallery - work on removing the foundation of the previous structures continues. There are lots of machines doing the job today.

Across the street the old Merchandise Mart is getting a new energy efficient roof and more. There is work going on there from the basement to the roof. It will have the highest energy efficiency green rating when done.

[peanut gallery]

Very cool, thanks Jerry! I read something the other day about Twitter's updating of the building to make it much more energy efficient (on SFGate, I think). Very interesting stuff.

[Jerry of San Fran]

I walked by January 31st and took this picture of the foundation - amazing stuff!

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6805632713_c05dfb252f_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6805632713/)
Trinity Place_Building II_Jan 2012_2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6805632713/)

[CyberEric]

Cool, thanks Jerry. Lot's of activity around several different parts of SoMa these days!

[Reminiscence]

Looks like the foundation is still underway. It's progressing nicely :)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1792/img0202zt.jpg

[peanut gallery]

Insane amount of rebar in those shots.

Looking at Rem's latest, I notice the porta-potty with the lifting bars attached right next to the crane. You just know they guys are dying to lift that thing out of there when the forman has a seat!

[minesweeper]

According to J.K. Dineen of the S.F. Business Times, they did a big concrete pour last Friday night (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/real-estate/2012/02/construction-underway-at-trinity-place.html):

The concrete trucks lined up along Mission Street in San Francisco late Friday night like tanks readying for battle.

Just before midnight on Feb. 10, they sprung into action. One after another they rolled up to the construction site at 1188 Mission St., where Angelo Sangiacomo is building phase two of Trinity Place, a 1,700-unit Central Market apartment complex.

A total of 300 trucks were emptied as the vehicles returned to the cement plant after dumping their load.

And some other tidbits:

Trinity Properties is on schedule to be topped out by October of 2012...

So far the project has benefited from the mild, dry winter. Typically Swinterton counts on losing 15 to 20 work days a winter due to inclement weather. This year, they have lost none.

[jbm]

I walked by on Thurs/Fri and the site is starting to rise above street level. Looks like columns of rebar starting a story or two below ground rising a story above street level.

[Jerry of San Fran]

Looks like the elevator core is being made. There is steel columns of rebar now above ground level.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7185/6919484105_e912f56dcc_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6919484105/)
Trinity Place_02-22-2012 (2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/6919484105/)

[colemonkee]

Wow, that was a remarkably quick foundation construction.

[jbm]

I walked down mission earlier this week, and along mission, right next to the first building, it looks as it some form of ground level flooring has been installed.

Separately, does anyone know when the demolition of the old trinity buildings along market are scheduled to take place?

[viewguysf]

I walked down mission earlier this week, and along mission, right next to the first building, it looks as it some form of ground level flooring has been installed.

Separately, does anyone know when the demolition of the old trinity buildings along market are scheduled to take place?

Trinity is still renting and collecting income from the remaining portion of the old hotel building; it won't be vacated and demolished until they proceed to the next phases of the total project sometime after the current building under construction has been completed.

[viewguysf]

BTW, I can't wait to see the front portion go, not only because it's ugly, but also because the new building will restore the proper property and building line along Market Street.

[peanut gallery]

^Me too. This, Crescent, and hopefully one day City Place will make a huge difference in the look and feel of this whole stretch of Market.

[jbm]

walked by the site this evening. looks like they did a concrete pour today as the ground floor appears to be entirely covered.

[Jerry of San Fran]

As of June 5 this is the progress I saw.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7346273544_63a724ebd2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/7346273544/)
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/7346273544/]

[peanut gallery]

Thanks Jerry! Haven't seen it in awhile and things are definitely progressing nicely.

[wakamesalad]

Looks super-
With Crescent Heights and Trinity rising at the same time this neighborhood is going to be exciting to watch!

[tommaso]

Could we get a current shot of this thing? Thanks :)

[jbm]

Could we get a current shot of this thing? Thanks :)

i don't have a current shot, but i walk by daily, and i'd guess its up to floor 11 or 12.

[timbad]

i don't have a current shot, but i walk by daily, and i'd guess its up to floor 11 or 12.

here are a couple from last week... looking south-ish from Market, kind of a family portrait, showing past, present and future of the Trinitys:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7255/7602092966_529cc7107e_b.jpg

and a closer-up shot from the southwest corner:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8020/7602096852_9411db1372_b.jpg

[peanut gallery]

I'll throw in one that I took on Tuesday as well:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8154/7602263400_aaca86ec8b_b.jpg

Looks like they're at the deck for floor 12, so about half way there.

[jbm]

you beat me to it! here are some photos that i took this morning from different points of the mission x 8th intersection.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7119/7607066804_55271ae504.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7258/7607066366_2af3fb8b21.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7274/7607067360_532420737a.jpg

[peanut gallery]

With all these shots in quick succession, you can see how fast they are adding those exterior panels. Quite a change in just a day or two.

[jbm]

I just chatted with one of the workers at the site. I asked when they were going to tear down the one remaining older building (largely facing market st) and he said the plan was to have it done by the end of year. That will be a welcome development.

[1977]

They must have tweaked the design a bit. The exterior on the southwest corner in the rendering is the glass portion, while in reality it's the beige cladding:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7258/7607066366_2af3fb8b21.jpg
Picture by jbm

http://arquitectonica.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files_mf/12948679154.00.338.19.1PIL.jpg
Source: www.arquitectonica.com

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KYnnWGQ12-M/S42Wuuas43I/AAAAAAAAARg/qSrcTXIzp5w/s1600/trinityplace.jpg
Source: www.arquitectonica.com

I assume the building will be broken up into 4 buildings as opposed to the original 3. Anyone have the scoop?

[wakamesalad]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KYnnWGQ12-M/S42Wuuas43I/AAAAAAAAARg/qSrcTXIzp5w/s1600/trinityplace.jpg
Source: www.arquitectonica.com


I hope they keep the holes in the buildings. If not, that is the kind of shit that developers pull that angers people into blocking their projects. I hope they learn.

[tech12]

I hope they keep the holes in the buildings. If not, that is the kind of shit that developers pull that angers people into blocking their projects. I hope they learn.

Yeah I'm pretty sure the holes are gone unfortunately, as that largest building with the holes in it has now been split into two buildings (the one currently under construction being one of them), with the space between them being where the holes would have been. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember this topic being discussed a while back.

[peanut gallery]

They must have tweaked the design a bit. The exterior on the southwest corner in the rendering is the glass portion, while in reality it's the beige cladding:

I assume the building will be broken up into 4 buildings as opposed to the original 3. Anyone have the scoop?

That is odd since the first building stayed pretty much identical to the renderings, other than those panels turning out more beige than mustardy. They've already established the look of having glass along the entire base then raising that portion of the exterior up a couple of extra stories. I wonder why they would change it up on this one, especially right on the corner?

As for the other question, I still hold out hope they keep the original configuration of 3 buildings. I've seen construction where a wing gets completed much later. They can put a temporary covering over the part that will be added to, and if they plan to demo the rest of the old one this year it wouldn't have to be that way long. Looking back at one of timbad's shots, you can see that's where the exterior lift is so it will be the last area to get cladding anyway. We'll find out for sure before too long.

[pdxtraveler]

Too bad the wholes are gone, it looked so neat and different.

[jbm]

Here's a couple pics I took this morning from 8th and mission

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8422/7750255210_67d542771f.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/7750255744_c3f6005326.jpg

[minesweeper]

And here's the view from 8th and Market this morning. Cladding is going up on the north side too.

http://i.imgur.com/BevbKl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/BevbK.jpg)

[ozone]

Aside from adding housing to an area that really needs it the best thing about this project is that it's going to help hide the Federal Building from certain angles. Too bad about the holes though. I often wonder how a developer can get away with not building according to the plans that they won approval for. Couldn't there be a hefty fine imposed if they pull stuff like this?

[peanut gallery]

I think the original plan for three buildings might still stand and with it the holes. It's possible they are just building this wing for now, then will complete the other two wings after the last residents in the old building have moved into this one and the old building is demolished. Looking closely at minesweeper's last shot you can see a column of doorways and I wonder if that's for the hallways that would connect to the next wing? I'm not sure either way yet, but still hope the holes will be included.

Thanks for the shots, guys!

[viewguysf]

Aside from adding housing to an area that really needs it the best thing about this project is that it's going to help hide the Federal Building from certain angles. Too bad about the holes though. I often wonder how a developer can get away with not building according to the plans that they won approval for. Couldn't there be a hefty fine imposed if they pull stuff like this?

I love the Federal Building and certainly don't think that's the best thing about this project, although I'm very happy that it is being built.

[ozone]

I love the Federal Building and certainly don't think that's the best thing about this project, although I'm very happy that it is being built.

I'd loved it too --if it were in LA.

[easy as pie]

?? the federal building is one of sf's most beautiful pieces of architecture, certainly the most spectacular high midrise tower in the city.

[timbad]

was by here on Sunday... exterior still going up quickly:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8444/7878367450_6b5a73f858_b.jpg

as seen from near Market:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8427/7878375672_6ca3abbc4d_b.jpg

[CyberEric]

Wow, this one's come quite a ways. Thanks. Can anyone find out why they aren't doing the holes?
I too love the Federal Building! :)

[timbad]

we're a few floors taller, but they don't seem to have made much progress on the external stuff since the last photo update a month ago:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8449/8042530815_638c850c9d_b.jpg

as seen from Mission looking east:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/8042529063_25533e38a4_b.jpg

[easy as pie]

^ man, what an imperious dominion that thing casts over that mission street view. every time i walk by there, i try to discern whether the tenants in the adjacent low rise rental have vacated it yet, wondering when the next phase will begin. there's this hammer coming down on the civic center flotsam here, as the cvs moves into the oddfellows, this one is built out with ground floor retail and the federal building reopens. more normal people than ever in the hood, but fewer places than ever for them to hang out without immediate police/private security harassment. so sweet. seriously, even though he's reputed to be one of the biggest scumbag slumlords in the city, the trinity place guy deserves some sort of recognition for bringing in 2000 new sets of eyes and ears to the hood.

[jbm]

^ man, what an imperious dominion that thing casts over that mission street view. every time i walk by there, i try to discern whether the tenants in the adjacent low rise rental have vacated it yet, wondering when the next phase will begin. there's this hammer coming down on the civic center flotsam here, as the cvs moves into the oddfellows, this one is built out with ground floor retail and the federal building reopens. more normal people than ever in the hood, but fewer places than ever for them to hang out without immediate police/private security harassment. so sweet. seriously, even though he's reputed to be one of the biggest scumbag slumlords in the city, the trinity place guy deserves some sort of recognition for bringing in 2000 new sets of eyes and ears to the hood.

I spoke with one of the workers a couple months back, and he thought the low rise on market and 8th would be vacated Nov-Dec, and torn down end of this year, early next. Hope he's right.

[coyotetrickster]

^ man, what an imperious dominion that thing casts over that mission street view. every time i walk by there, i try to discern whether the tenants in the adjacent low rise rental have vacated it yet, wondering when the next phase will begin. there's this hammer coming down on the civic center flotsam here, as the cvs moves into the oddfellows, this one is built out with ground floor retail and the federal building reopens. more normal people than ever in the hood, but fewer places than ever for them to hang out without immediate police/private security harassment. so sweet. seriously, even though he's reputed to be one of the biggest scumbag slumlords in the city, the trinity place guy deserves some sort of recognition for bringing in 2000 new sets of eyes and ears to the hood.

This complex is Sangiacomo's final gift to the city. The other, conversely, are our rent control ordinances. It will be a lovely space when completed. The synergies of the twitter hq, Market Place and Trinity Place will have significant impact on mid-market. In more ways than Chris Daly could have prevented.
(and yeah, I still hate Daly)

[minesweeper]

Angelo Sangiacomo ready to go on third Mid-Market tower (http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/print-edition/2012/10/12/trinity-going-full-blast-on-housing.html)
San Francisco Business Times by J.K. Dineen

The completion of Trinity’s next 417-unit building is still eight months away, but already the San Francisco developer is gearing up to start the next two phases: A 1,450-car underground garage and a 19-story, $133 million tower with 570 studio and one-bedroom apartments at 33 Eighth St.

Trinity Properties has served notice to the existing residents of the Trinity Plaza building — formerly the Del Webb Townhouse motel — that they need to vacate by the end of November.

[peanut gallery]

SocketSite has the revised rendering for Phase II (http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2012/10/trinity_place_phase_two_redesigned_renderings_versus_re.html):
http://www.socketsite.com/Trinity%20Phase%202%20Revised.jpg

Between that and their latest construction shot, it's clear the holes are gone (note the beige panels where the lower "bridge" should be):
http://www.socketsite.com/Trinity%20Place%20Phase%202%20-%208th%20Street.jpg

Too bad.

[Austinlee]

Big squares.

[timbad]

a pic from a few days ago. I'm still a little :irked: about this project.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8074/8255811612_a698b59c48_b.jpg

[fimiak]

I can see this thing going up outside of my apt. It's pretty ugly, but I do have hopes that at night time the center glass square will light up, perhaps making up for the bland colors in the daytime. I would call the two exterior colors 'sidewalk gray' and 'community center beige'.

[tech12]

In my opinion it's just "inoffensive", like so much other stuff that gets built in SF. It's not exactly ugly, but it's not that good looking either. It's a shame they value-engineered the unique design elements away.

[Duck From NY]

http://www.socketsite.com/Trinity%20Phase%202%20Revised.jpg

-
Looks very California

[jbm]

I walked by the market st part of this complex today and it looks like they are getting ready to begin demolition of the next building. the construction trailers were set up in the parking lot at the corner of 8th and market. guess it could start any day.

[timbad]

:previous: copying here Jerry's post from the main run-down forum, on the same topic:

Today, 12/10/12, construction trailers were moved to the site of Trinity Place. I suspect that Phase III may be happening soon with the teardown of the now empty Trinity Plaza. I'll keep an eye on the property. Picture from my apartment.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8364/8262213621_a5a2eea73b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/8262213621/)
Trinity Place (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/8262213621/) by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/antinous/]

[fimiak]

http://i.imgur.com/8ILo9l.jpg (http://imgur.com/8ILo9)
From 12/10/12.

It's a little grainy, but that is an iphone picture from my apt. You can see that the roof facade has begun to go up. It's going up very fast and I expect all of the non-glass facade to be complete by the end of next week. Glass panels have been moving around on the crane as well but I cannot see where they are being installed just yet.

http://i.imgur.com/7Ku5Ll.jpg (http://imgur.com/7Ku5L)

From 12/11/12

Here we can see the progress of under 24 hours. I am quite impressed. This building will probably be open for business by summer time.

[easy as pie]

man, it bears repeating: the large number of incoming market rate units in mid-market will bring improvements that are hard even to fathom at this point. another 10,000 people living around the civic center, it sets the heart to racing. imagine how many normal businesses these people could support? half of the battle in gentrifying around here is blowing out the sleazy shops that anchor a block's popularity with the undesirable element.

[wakamesalad]

I thought the holes were going to be on the 8th st. and Market St. buildings (looking at the renderings). This building appears to look just like the original renderings on the first page (no holes).

[tech12]

I thought the holes were going to be on the 8th st. and Market St. buildings (looking at the renderings). This building appears to look just like the original renderings on the first page (no holes).

The no-hole version is not the original version, it's the new version. They changed the design and got rid of the holes after they built the first building (so the second building has now been split into two different buildings).

[Jerry of San Fran]

fimiak - glad to see more pictures of Trinity Place posted by you. The metal structure on the top of the building is oval from my view - will most certainly be a mechanical room.

Sorry to see some of the elements that made the building more interesting taken out.

[timbad]

... the second building has now been split into two different buildings.

... and now they will need to call it Quadrennity Place ;)

[NOPA]

Ya not impressed with the materials and changes to design. Starting to look like a big public housing project. Hopefully the market-rate renters and new condo owners will help clean up the area. :)

[fimiak]

http://i.imgur.com/vLmzIl.jpg (http://imgur.com/vLmzI)

12/13/12. The glass is going up at the base.

[Jerry of San Fran]

It is nice to see how Trinity Place has hidden the mechanical stuff on both buildings I & II. Being that I look down on a number of buildings in my neighborhood it is nice to see some style on the roofs. Very little of this oval structure can be seen from street level.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8273856174_2ed780b3b6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/8273856174/)
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/antinous/8273856174/]

[minesweeper]

I just checked the SF Building Permit database, and the demolition permit for 1169 Market was issued on Christmas Eve, 12/24.

So, it sounds like that last low-rise building isn't long for this world.

[fimiak]

http://i.imgur.com/hri1Al.jpg?1 (http://imgur.com/hri1A)

http://i.imgur.com/aIcoyl.jpg (http://imgur.com/aIcoy)

1/3

[minesweeper]

Someone with access to the construction site posted a bunch of photos on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/omaromar/tags/trinityplaza/) recently.

Here's one his photos from the topping off ceremony of Phase II:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7138/8168755786_a36f135d4e_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/omaromar/8168755786/)
Topping Off 05354 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/omaromar/8168755786/) by Omar Omar (http://www.flickr.com/people/omaromar/), on Flickr

[timbad]

not too different from recent pics, but since I was by there today:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8054/8404890952_47aa0328f5_b.jpg

didn't see any evidence that any of the older buildings were being torn down yet

[fimiak]

http://i.imgur.com/9Ateau4.jpg (http://imgur.com/9Ateau4) 2/6/13 Mine.

[biggerhigherfaster]

Trinity is actively preleasing the Phase 2 location (1190 Mission) now.

Regardless of the architectural and urban development merits, Phase 1 has been very poorly managed by Trinity and has a horrid reputation among past and current tenants. On Yelp, there are over 100 horror stories, mostly relating to the 1188 Phase 1 location--the average review is 1.5/5 stars

Hopefully we won't eventually have 4 phases and 1900 units filled with pissed off tenants; more likely they'll have to reduce rents to find any actual takers even in this rental market

[easy as pie]

yeah, by all accounts, trinity place/plaza is a notoriously (some would say humorously) awful place to rent, which doesn't really auger well for neighborhood building, even if it does bring in hundreds and hundreds of new tenants. when i'm feeling blue, i can always elevate my mood by reading a few trinity place reviews on yelp.

[biggerhigherfaster]

looks nearly done on the outside

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8487890938_d7260fbfc0.jpg

[NOPA]

Who wants to bet this looks like crap in 25 years? I blame Chris Daly.

[timbad]

Who wants to bet this looks like crap in 25 years?

yeah, I'm trying really hard to reserve judgement till we see more of it, but the whole project was so bulky to begin with that it needed all its tricks (e.g., the hole(s), interlocking shapes, grand stairs etc) to keep it from being overwhelming. I'm afraid too much has been surreptitiously removed, and we are left with just massive numbing blocks. I'm quite annoyed that what we thought we were getting, we're not. am trying to be hopeful for the Market St side of things, at least. the current building is a failure.

makes me want to understand the approval process better - seems like we go through torturous processes in this city to make anything happen (or not), and I just don't get how things are then allowed to slip once all the energy has been expended.

[biggerhigherfaster]

I don't think it's that bad. Not everything can or should be luxurious and high end. Assuming all four phases are done, bringing in 3000+ "middle income" residents to the area will be a good thing--and by middle income, I mean ppl who will pay 2200 for a 1bd/1ba, rather than the 3k going rate in SF now. If Trinity Management wasn't running those buildings, I'd have much more confidence in having those buildings filled with residents (who renew their leases) and being well maintained

[fimiak]

There is no way any 1br apartments are going to be $2200 at the new trinity buildings. If current market for the neighborhood is 3k, then for a new building 1br to be $2200 in a few years will mean a 30% reduction in prices. This could only happen from a huge crash in the market that would be devastating for development in SF. If we are lucky the market for a 1br in SoMa will have capped at 3k and will not rise for 5 years as new development meets demand.

http://i.imgur.com/GnVAQT8l.jpg (http://imgur.com/GnVAQT8)

[biggerhigherfaster]

There is no way any 1br apartments are going to be $2200 at the new trinity buildings. If current market for the neighborhood is 3k, then for a new building 1br to be $2200 in a few years will mean a 30% reduction in prices. This could only happen from a huge crash in the market that would be devastating for development in SF. If we are lucky the market for a 1br in SoMa will have capped at 3k and will not rise for 5 years as new development meets demand.

Trinity is preleasing 1 bedrooms at 1.7k and 2k. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/3625766298.html

It's cheaper because (a) the units aren't that nice or big (among other missing amenities are in-unit laundry); (b) that area is still a but run-down; (c) Trinity has a horrendous reputation as a management company

[fimiak]

But surely when the entire complex is finished the prices will go up, since construction will have ended and the new units will be facing market st. Still, I am surprised at how cheap those listings are.

[Gordo]

Keep in mind those are "starting at" prices for each layout. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that while they have one bedrooms starting at $1999, there's actually only one or two really crappy locations in the building that are that price, while the average price of one bedrooms is more like $2500 or more.

[easy as pie]

wow, so move in is 1 july, not bad. sounds like demo on the final tower(s) will be complete by then, so that new residents should be able to open the windows occasionally.

also, don't be surprised by the low initial prices, trinity has a very high turnover rate and there's every reason for these folks to believe that they'll be able to price these units up as the market evolves to support it (i.e. as construction finishes, other projects are built out, good neighborhood-servicing takes hold and generally further gentrification takes place). by the time the neighborhood is where a person would want to drop 3k/month, most of the apartments will likely have turned over a couple times.

[wakamesalad]

wow, so move in is 1 july, not bad. sounds like demo on the final tower(s) will be complete by then, so that new residents should be able to open the windows occasionally.

also, don't be surprised by the low initial prices, trinity has a very high turnover rate and there's every reason for these folks to believe that they'll be able to price these units up as the market evolves to support it (i.e. as construction finishes, other projects are built out, good neighborhood-servicing takes hold and generally further gentrification takes place). by the time the neighborhood is where a person would want to drop 3k/month, most of the apartments will likely have turned over a couple times.

No need for turnover. They can just raise the rents to market rate. These are not rent controlled.

[timbad]

I was surprised how squat the new building looks from farther down Mission, as I was walking over there yesterday. hadn't noticed that before

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8090/8525349862_c6943195f3_b.jpg

and, the windows have been removed from the older building(s?), so maybe demolition is imminent there finally (tho I am not as enthusiastic as I used to be about what will replace it):

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8507/8522918191_c773c52a3c_b.jpg

[viewguysf]

I was surprised how squat the new building looks from farther down Mission, as I was walking over there yesterday. hadn't noticed that before...and, the windows have been removed from the older building(s?), so maybe demolition is imminent there finally (tho I am not as enthusiastic as I used to be about what will replace it):

I was thinking before that I don't like the abundance of 2-floor window squares in the new tower because it makes 20 floors look like 10 big squatty ones. I'm really hoping that the next two buildings are much better, even more so than the first tower is from the second one.

It has recently looked to me as though they were abating asbestos from the old hotel building behind the parking lot on Market, so along with what you reported today, it's going to meet its deserving demise soon.

[fflint]

No need for turnover. They can just raise the rents to market rate. These are not rent controlled.
Some of the units at Trinity are indeed under rent control.

Anway, I'm disappointed in how the buildings look so far. The renders were just too cool, I guess.

[fimiak]

http://i.imgur.com/QJaGx9k.jpg (http://imgur.com/QJaGx9k)

3/7 out the window

[jbm]

i am not positive, but i believe i saw the beginnings of the demolition of the small building that is in the middle of the complex. it looked as if the part of the building that is closest to Trinity I was knocked down, but the part along 8th street was still up.

[timbad]

i am not positive, but i believe i saw the beginnings of the demolition of the small building that is in the middle of the complex. it looked as if the part of the building that is closest to Trinity I was knocked down, but the part along 8th street was still up.

this is what it looked like from 8th yesterday:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8565444388_4312e1994e_b.jpg

and the wider shot:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8236/8564341095_8d112a58ba_b.jpg

[jbm]

There is confirmed demolition along 8th st. as of today. Nothing on the building along Market yet though.

[timbad]

courtesy of spyguy (THAT guy) in the main rundown thread, a link to the oxblue Trinity webcam:

http://oxblue.com/open/trinity

[viewguysf]

Demolition update as of Friday, April 5th, from Curbed SF:

http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2013/04/05/trinity_place_clears_way_for_next_step.php

[timbad]

just to document what will be so sorely missed when it is gone soon:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8650403489_b3e16d4c99_b.jpg

looking east from Eighth:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8540/8650404759_08b93760f3_b.jpg

[minesweeper]

The building along Market Street is starting to disappear. Here's a photo from last week I found on Flickr:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8243/8663462802_43ba7d6f0a_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/carbonnyc/8663462802/)
The Curse of Silverado (http://www.flickr.com/photos/carbonnyc/8663462802/) by CarbonNYC (http://www.flickr.com/people/carbonnyc/), on Flickr

[fimiak]

From today
http://i.imgur.com/ZyT6OEB.jpg (http://imgur.com/ZyT6OEB)
http://i.imgur.com/CY19hE0.jpg (http://imgur.com/CY19hE0)

[cv94117]

With the old building now mostly gone, standing at Market and 8th you can clearly see the difference between the first building, which looks great and the second, which looks cheap like something from a second-rate architect. It's a shame that the City doesn't have the will to force Sangiacomo to build what he originally proposed and what the approvals were based on. What could have been a transformation of the area will just be a big, bland, cheap-looking collection of buildings not much better than Parkmerced.

[fimiak]

I am worried about this as well. I still have not seen any renders of the revised 6-building project. I can only hope that this building is cheaper because it is on Mission, whereas the Market St. buildings will look better/non-value engineered. I doubt it though.


Old rendering from official webpage. http://www.trinityplace.com/full_size.php?img=1

http://i.imgur.com/ttdPDzB.jpg (http://imgur.com/ttdPDzB)

[minesweeper]

Another view of the demolition Friday morning:

http://i.imgur.com/5iQMxHNl.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/5iQMxHN.jpg)

[easy as pie]

if i'm really honest with myself, i have to admit that this project is horribly ugly and that i've only really liked (loved?) it because of what it's demolishing, the high number of normal people it's bringing, and the retail wrap. it'll definitely be a complex that's instantly hated, no question, but it serves a super important function in terms of gentrification.

that said, i bet this next phase includes the two central buildings, with the market street-fronting lot serving as a construction staging area.