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fflint
04-19-2007, 08:22 PM
Large number of cable car passengers riding for free

Rachel Gordon, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, April 19, 2007

(04-19) 11:01 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- Passengers who hop on a San Francisco cable car have a 40 percent chance of riding for free, according to findings of a City Controller's audit released this morning.

City auditors -- working undercover -- made 42 boardings along San Francisco's three cable car routes in January and February to determine whether conductors were properly collecting the $5 fare.

In 17 of those trips, the conductors never collected the cash fare. The auditors observed that conductors failed to collect fares from at least 76 other passengers during those trips.

The audit also found a few instances in which conductors allowed passengers to ride for free when they didn't have the exact fare.

"The agency needs to improve cable car fare collection practices,'' the report said.

The audit was conducted at the request of the Municipal Transportation Agency, which operates the city's public transit system. It comes after Mayor Gavin Newsom made a public stink last year when he accused cable car crews of illegally pocketing cash.

San Francisco's public transit system raises only 22 percent of its operating expenses at the fare box -- a rate that falls short of the national average -- in part because of broken fare boxes and riders who cheat the system.

There was some good news in the audit, which found that conductors properly issued receipts in 24 of the 25 boardings in which the fares were collected from the auditors. The receipts are used by management to reconcile the amount of money collected on the cable cars with the amount operators turn in at the end of the day.

The audit found that the worst collection rates were observed when the cable cars were crowded, and during morning and evening commutes. During their survey, auditors also tried to take into account the use of the monthly FastPass, a $45 pass that allows people to board any Municipal Railway vehicle without paying a cash fare, said audit division chief Peg Stevenson.

Muni chief Nathaniel Ford thanked the controller's office for the audit and said the problems that were highlighted would be addressed.

For instance, he said cable car crews will undergo increased training on the agency's fare collection process; undercover security personnel will be deployed to observe staff on the cable cars for quality control; and managers will be assigned to ride the cable cars "to demonstrate our interest.''

BTinSF
04-19-2007, 08:35 PM
Much as it truly pisses me off when people cop free rides on busses, at $5 a pop I can hardly blame them on the cable cars. I think SF needs to rethink that fare for starters. After that, though, with 2 Muni employees on each little car, and one of them not having a lot to do but collect fares and do a bit of braking occasionally, there's not much excuse for not collecting a fare from every rider. Add this to the Muni drivers who take their bathroom brakes while blocking the commute at Embarcadero station--there's just not a lot of motivation for them to actually do a good job.

DubbaG
04-22-2007, 03:23 AM
Last week i took a cable car to school and the guys didn't ask to see my pass or my $5.

JMancuso
04-22-2007, 11:38 PM
when i was in london, we kept on riding the bendy buses becuase you can get on from the back and avoid having to pay the bus driver or scan oyster card.

rs913
04-22-2007, 11:58 PM
at $5 a pop I can hardly blame them on the cable cars. I think SF needs to rethink that fare for starters.

I wonder how cable car ridership breaks down between tourists and locals, or even more interestingly, between regular riders and occasional riders. I've always heard people claim the cars aren't the most efficient way to get around. If most of their ridership is tourists or other people just occasionally trying it for fun, I'm not surprised they charge $5 just because they can.

No question that they definitely should try to collect whatever fare they charge, though.

BTinSF
04-23-2007, 06:50 PM
^^^Whether the cable cars are "the most efficient way to get around" obviously depends on where you are and where you want to go. For most locals, it also depends on whether they have a Fast Pass and which route you are talking about.

From where I live on Van Ness, the California Street cable car is a highly efficient and direct route to the Financial District and it also happens to be fairly unknown to the tourists who pack onboard the Powell/Hyde and Powell/Mason cars, so I ride it quite often when I have a Fast Pass--and it usually seems like a fair number of my fellow passengers, though probably not a majority, are also local.

On the other hand, even though the Powell cars would also be the most efficient way to get from Union Square to North Beach, I usually don't bother with them to do that because they are so packed beyond breathing room with tourists.

You are right--Muni charges $5 "because it can". Clearly it hasn't kept the tourists from riding. But I also suspect most of the fare evaders are not tourists and it should surprise no one that the sort of people who will board the back door of a bus to avoid paying $1.50 will do the equaivalent on a cable car to avoid paying $5.

Personally, I just feel embarrassed for my city when I see the expression on the faces of those tourists as they are told the one-way, no transfers fare is $5. It can't make them feel all warm and fuzzy for SF--nor can it improve the chances they will return.

rs913
04-23-2007, 07:35 PM
Personally, I just feel embarrassed for my city when I see the expression on the faces of those tourists as they are told the one-way, no transfers fare is $5. It can't make them feel all warm and fuzzy for SF--nor can it improve the chances they will return.

Are tourists really getting PO'd over the $5 fare? It seems like tourist attractions all over the country, if not the world, generally charge inflated prices...knowing full well that people splurge when on vacation or when doing "once-in-a-lifetime" types of stuff. It now costs $20 to go to the top of the Empire State Building, for instance.

When you factor in the idea that people who actually use the cable cars to commute probably have FastPasses, the $5 fare really doesn't seem that shocking to me, even if it's probably a gratuitious markup rather than a necessity. And if it's encouraging a bunch of fare evaders, maybe cracking down is better (at least from MUNI's point of view) than lowering the fare.

On a side note, I envy anyone who gets to use the California St. line (aka the "non-touristy" one) regularly...that's traveling in style!

BTinSF
04-23-2007, 07:51 PM
^^^From what I've seen and read, the tourists do find that fare a negative. Just as I paid the $20 at the Empire State, they'll pay it, but it just goes on the list of negatives (along with panhandlers) from their SF trip. Understand, though, I'm not suggesting that "negatives" list is yet the same length as the "positives" one.

For locals, though, Muni just has a problem with fare evasion throughout the system. I'd like to see a system-wide solution or series of solutions.

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