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vandelay
Nov 5, 2011, 1:11 AM
Those last images were seriously gorgeous. A lot of people slagged the design, but in my opinion, quality doesn't have to shout.

Innsertnamehere
Nov 5, 2011, 2:15 AM
when will the setback happen? soon i am presuming, if it hasnt happened already and i missed it.

sterlippo1
Nov 5, 2011, 11:43 AM
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the glass is simply mesmerizing :worship:

steveve
Nov 5, 2011, 3:26 PM
the glass is simply mesmerizing :worship:

i agree.. that that is such a unique angle! reminds me of the old WTC's insane height right up to the street,

CHAPINM1
Nov 6, 2011, 5:19 AM
I LOVE that last picture! Look at 4WTC just dominating everything around it!!!

Zapatan
Nov 6, 2011, 9:35 AM
i agree.. that that is such a unique angle! reminds me of the old WTC's insane height right up to the street,

That's why I hate it when there are setbacks anywhere near the street.

CarlosV
Nov 6, 2011, 1:17 PM
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Alliance
Nov 6, 2011, 2:03 PM
My opinion of tower 4 continues to improve. Its cladding has some significant details that give it a clear edge over 1 WTC. The cladding is nice and dynamic, and the massing is a really excellent choice for its location. The glass also has a nice degree of transparency despite its reflective that gives characters to its many corners. Its main ailment is the poor visual context amongst the other future and current towers. 4 and 7 do a great job bookending the site but tower 4 is a statement in simplicity, one fairly well executed, but in the context of towers 1, 2, and 3 the simplicity gets lost in homogeneity and becomes blandness. I also will never forgive them for covering up those inverted V braces with spandrel.

Please, forgive my tripod-less night photos.

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steveve
Nov 6, 2011, 6:58 PM
yes i agree, tower 4 is looking better and better. and one might even argue, it's more interesting than tower 1 at the moment. it's got razor sharp edges, little setbacks (with a big one around the corner).. and it's finally looking less fat because the height is coming in to play now.

this tower looks best from the memorial park... way awesome for some reason, towering above at an angle.

Alliance
Nov 6, 2011, 9:48 PM
^^^ Its because its the acute angle side. Its the same side that facing southeast along trinity. Like 7, I looks best from the thinner perspectives.

CarlosV
Nov 8, 2011, 5:11 PM
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NYguy
Nov 9, 2011, 3:44 AM
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Very nice. I've always liked this building, and I believe if it were being built anywhere else in Manhattan besides the WTC, more people would come to appreciate it as I do.



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NYguy
Nov 9, 2011, 10:22 PM
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CarlosV
Nov 11, 2011, 6:33 PM
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colemonkee
Nov 11, 2011, 7:46 PM
There's our transfer floor. Thanks, Carlos! Next floors above that should be the setback.

CarlosV
Nov 12, 2011, 2:41 PM
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chris123678
Nov 12, 2011, 2:46 PM
I love Tower 4. It's desing and now, I'm really excited that it's about to setback. Yet, this tower can somewhat be a disappointment to me. Comparing it to the other trade center towers, it's bland. The Comcast Building In Philadelphia, is a better design, In my opinion

steveve
Nov 12, 2011, 2:50 PM
Yet, this tower can somewhat be a disappointment to me. Comparing it to the other trade center towers, it's bland. The Comcast Building In Philadelphia, is a better design, In my opinion

it's hard to compare the two, really. the Comcast is designed to be a standalone tower, not a "tower 4" of a complex, it has to look good with the bigger picture. i'd say, if anything, comcast would fit better as tower3, though i'll stick with tower 3.

comcast is a sexy building though. i saw it this summer. it was sick.

kickser
Nov 12, 2011, 2:52 PM
^^ Tower 4 was designed simple by purpose, to act as a bridge between the fancier WTC towers and the rest of Lower manhattan. This will harmonize the skyline, and give it a balanced appeal when all towers are done.

Alliance
Nov 12, 2011, 3:38 PM
Comparing it to the other trade center towers, it's bland.

I like that it doesn't try to add random elements like diamonds or external cross bracing to try to hide its blandness.

sw5710
Nov 12, 2011, 10:35 PM
I think the roof will be just above the top of the cranes.

CarlosV
Nov 14, 2011, 2:30 PM
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NYguy
Nov 14, 2011, 11:05 PM
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Guiltyspark
Nov 15, 2011, 1:45 AM
I love Tower 4. It's desing and now, I'm really excited that it's about to setback. Yet, this tower can somewhat be a disappointment to me. Comparing it to the other trade center towers, it's bland. The Comcast Building In Philadelphia, is a better design, In my opinion

"I love this tower, but it is disappointing and bland." That is a nice coherent thought you've got going there... :tup:

But anyway, I am very excited for the setback.

cityenthusiast
Nov 15, 2011, 5:07 AM
The next jump of steel is where the setback happens right? I cant wait any longer Im so anxious to see the setback. This building keeps on getting better and better as it rises this might become my favorite tower at least from that last angle of the last picture!!

Big Rooster
Nov 15, 2011, 8:21 PM
The next jump of steel is where the setback happens right? I cant wait any longer Im so anxious to see the setback. This building keeps on getting better and better as it rises this might become my favorite tower at least from that last angle of the last picture!!

Agreed - this tower is definitely my favourite as it oozes class. While other towers and cities have to be audacious to make a statement, all the WTC towers, and in particular 4 WTC don't have to try to get noticed, they just get noticed. Loving this building!

Roadcruiser1
Nov 15, 2011, 11:11 PM
Sure Four World Trade Center might look bland, but so did the Twin Towers. What was wrong with that? The Twin Towers still had a presence so would Four World Trade Center. It would fit right in with the history of the site.

THE BIG APPLE
Nov 16, 2011, 1:23 AM
But the twin towers were noticed and beloved for their immense size. This is the shortest building in the WTC. Although it is and will turn out to be beautiful, it is so damn close to 3WTC that they look like siamese twins. The only building in the WTC complex that truly has its free space is 1WTC.

Roadcruiser1
Nov 16, 2011, 2:41 AM
Actually although off topic One World Trade Center doesn't have free space. From vantage points One World Trade Center would be blocked by Two World Trade Center at some locations. This blockage would prevent One World Trade Center from being visible except for the mast.

Servo
Nov 16, 2011, 3:36 AM
But the twin towers were noticed and beloved for their immense size. This is the shortest building in the WTC. Although it is and will turn out to be beautiful, it is so damn close to 3WTC that they look like siamese twins. The only building in the WTC complex that truly has its free space is 1WTC.

Just thought I'd point out that 4 WTC is not the shortest in the WTC (of the skyscrapers): 7 WTC is.

:tup:

Big Rooster
Nov 16, 2011, 8:31 PM
Just thought I'd point out that 4 WTC is not the shortest in the WTC (of the skyscrapers): 7 WTC is.

:tup:

And when completed 4 WTC will be the 5th or 6th tallest building in NYC. So it'll hardly be lost in the grand scheme of things.

In my humble opinion I think the difference between the new WTC complex and the old is that the old looked stunning from the skyline. The general consensus though is that it was quite soulless walking around the twin towers. The new WTC complex is definitely intended to be more inviting close by and around the memorial and the towers are going to look awesome up close - and in particular 4 WTC will look amazing up close.

:notacrook:

THE BIG APPLE
Nov 17, 2011, 12:34 AM
Wow can't believe I said 4WTC was the shortest without thinking. Looks like 7WTC has turned out to be an after thought.

Roadcruiser1
Nov 17, 2011, 1:03 AM
Actually I don't really thing much about 7 World Trade Center anymore. When I think of the World Trade Center, 7 World Trade Center doesn't come up much. It's the 4 marauding giant towers that I really think about.

steveve
Nov 17, 2011, 2:15 AM
Actually I don't really thing much about 7 World Trade Center anymore. When I think of the World Trade Center, 7 World Trade Center doesn't come up much. It's the 4 marauding giant towers that I really think about.

lol! i agree... i think a lot of it is because it was built so many years ago (4), and when the new ones are built, it will be considered old... by the time the whole complex is built, it'll be around 7 years old

also, it's the one with the most simple design, and not actually located on the world trade center site

Danielson27
Nov 17, 2011, 3:21 PM
Looks like core scaffolding now going up for the first trapezoid floors :)

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SkylineFan
Nov 18, 2011, 4:32 PM
"As of November 16th, 2011, the building's steel has reached the 56th floor, concrete to the 50th floor, and glass to the 33rd floor. Topping out 4 WTC is expected by April 2012." :banana:

meh_cd
Nov 18, 2011, 4:57 PM
lol! i agree... i think a lot of it is because it was built so many years ago (4), and when the new ones are built, it will be considered old... by the time the whole complex is built, it'll be around 7 years old

also, it's the one with the most simple design, and not actually located on the world trade center site

I disagree. If anything, Tower 7 will be the hidden gem of the complex. Understated in its simplicity, but the materials used make it a real looker.

And a 7 year old building isn't "old."

Anyway. I love Tower 4 myself. At first I hated it. Then I was saddened by the switch from matte glass to reflective glass. Then I saw it in person, loved it, and realized that if Towers 2 and 3 take a while to get built, Towers 1 and 4 will make a great set of "twins" until 2 and 3 are built.

Hudson11
Nov 18, 2011, 9:36 PM
April 2012." :banana:

excellent, 5 months is a lot sooner than i expected.

Tall guy 31
Nov 19, 2011, 7:05 PM
"As of November 16th, 2011, the building's steel has reached the 56th floor, concrete to the 50th floor, and glass to the 33rd floor. Topping out 4 WTC is expected by April 2012." :banana:


Nice....so both towers will be topped out ( tower 1 is due to be topped out in the first quarter of 2012) by April.

As my kids use to count about Christmas time.... " how many more wakeups till Christmas?" So, how many more wakeups til April??? ;)

NYguy
Nov 19, 2011, 11:04 PM
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Nov 20, 2011, 12:45 AM
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animatedmartian
Nov 20, 2011, 3:07 PM
:previous: Love those interior shots of the podium. :D

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CarlosV
Nov 20, 2011, 7:23 PM
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chris123678
Nov 20, 2011, 9:19 PM
Isn't the set back floor start after the finish building this enormously long mechaincal floor?

2-TOWERS
Nov 20, 2011, 9:27 PM
i really don't follow up on this building like i do with 1WTC but lately i have and these beast of a building is really turning out to be awesome...:tup:

Aleks
Nov 21, 2011, 9:37 AM
the massing is wonderful and i really loved the basicness of this building. i though it would look amazing if everything went right but alas, the glass is not up to my expectations. could've been so much smoother and seamless :(

still like it, but i taste reclad in the future.

simms3_redux
Nov 21, 2011, 11:55 AM
^^^I like the glass on this one better than 1WTC. I am worried that the glass on all four will look basically the same, though.

MrSlippery519
Nov 21, 2011, 7:05 PM
Isn't the set back floor start after the finish building this enormously long mechaincal floor?

As far as I know yes the next floor will be the setback floor. You can see how different this current floor is.

meh_cd
Nov 22, 2011, 1:56 AM
the massing is wonderful and i really loved the basicness of this building. i though it would look amazing if everything went right but alas, the glass is not up to my expectations. could've been so much smoother and seamless :(

still like it, but i taste reclad in the future.

Reclad? The thing looks absolutely fantastic in person.

Don098
Nov 22, 2011, 6:00 AM
the massing is wonderful and i really loved the basicness of this building. i though it would look amazing if everything went right but alas, the glass is not up to my expectations. could've been so much smoother and seamless :(

still like it, but i taste reclad in the future.

The glass isn't up to your expectations??? :sly: The glass is mind-blowing...what could you possibly have been expecting that would look better?!?!

Guiltyspark
Nov 22, 2011, 6:15 AM
the massing is wonderful and i really loved the basicness of this building. i though it would look amazing if everything went right but alas, the glass is not up to my expectations. could've been so much smoother and seamless :(

still like it, but i taste reclad in the future.

Uh, the glass is fantastic. What a strange thing to complain about. They will not be doing a reclad of this supurb glass for many decades. Your assumption that they will change the glass shows your lack of understand of how expensive a reclad is. :whip:

Don098
Nov 22, 2011, 10:45 PM
I still can't get over that comment...I'm beginning to wonder if Aleks is blind or has some kind of vision impairment. The glass is this building's strength...in fact, I'd say that it's about the only thing is has going for it.

Roadcruiser1
Nov 22, 2011, 11:22 PM
Four World Trade Center is actually a monster close up. It isn't a normal building, but a beast. Many people actually have not seen Four World Trade Center and they are criticizing it.

vandelay
Nov 23, 2011, 12:44 AM
4WTC is actually an extremely well designed building as a massive box. Its right next to One Liberty, which is a massive box, and from various angles it bookends the WTC site with 7WTC (box), or Goldman Sachs (massive box in silhouette). It adds a hell of a lot of balance to the downtown skyline. Just look at the contrast between black matte One Liberty and ultra glassy 4WTC (which was supposed to be matte silver--that was a well conceived detail), it gives One liberty something to play off of and makes it less of an dull black eyesore. Look at the skyline from the south east, the bloated Goldman Sachs building used to make the WTC skyline lopsided.

uaarkson
Nov 23, 2011, 4:00 PM
4WTC would be the largest office tower in 90% of the cities on earth. The cladding is world-class.

Onn
Nov 24, 2011, 2:11 AM
Oh yeah, I think the cladding is first class! It's right up there with 1WTC and the London Shard, as far as quality goes.

QUEENSNYMAN
Nov 25, 2011, 9:02 PM
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CarlosV
Nov 27, 2011, 7:11 PM
4WTC would be the largest office tower in 90% of the cities on earth. The cladding is world-class.

:omg:


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Big Rooster
Nov 28, 2011, 8:50 AM
Walked past this one yesterday. Absolutely love it. The photos, (though awesome, great job lads), really don't do the glass justice.

The glass is out of this world, making this easily my favourite of the 4 WTC towers. It looks like it is made out of chrome, but not in a tacky Vegas pimped up kinda way. It looks like a monolith from the future. Cant wait to see this one poke above all the other skyscrapers in FiDi!

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Nov 29, 2011, 5:18 PM
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uaarkson
Nov 29, 2011, 5:46 PM
FiDi!

I would happily castrate myself before seeing this nickname used again.

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Nov 30, 2011, 9:20 PM
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pnapp1
Dec 1, 2011, 2:52 PM
You can see the cranes have jumped in Carlos's latest pic. Time for 4 WTC to start rising again. :tup:

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Dec 1, 2011, 5:13 PM
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CarlosV
Dec 4, 2011, 2:08 AM
nothing in last 2 days.... :(

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Dec 4, 2011, 10:52 PM
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Dec 4, 2011, 11:00 PM
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Dec 4, 2011, 11:07 PM
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Bond007
Dec 5, 2011, 5:51 PM
Awesome pics Carlos. :) That glass looks great.

CarlosV
Dec 5, 2011, 8:10 PM
thanks :)

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NYC GUY
Dec 5, 2011, 10:03 PM
I have to say 4 wtc looks HUGE in person

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Dec 6, 2011, 12:04 AM
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Otie
Dec 8, 2011, 2:25 AM
Fantastic update, mate!


W.T.C. Command Center alterations questioned (http://www.downtownexpress.com/?p=5177)
BY ALINE REYNOLDS
December 7, 2011

| The World Trade Center Command Center is moving its headquarters to W.T.C. Four, according to a recent announcement made by Mayor Michael Bloomberg and confirmed by the New York Police Department.

The decision, which Bloomberg announced at the annual World Trade Center press conference on Sept. 7, came as a surprise to Community Board 1 Chairperson Julie Menin during an interview this week.

“I don’t know why we weren’t notified — we asked to be notified,” said Menin.

Relocating the command center, now situated in Tribeca, to the W.T.C. site is a “questionable” move, she said. “I’d absolutely want to hear more from the Commissioner about this as to why it should be on the site itself. It has to be near the site, because it has to be proximate, but not [directly] on the site.”

Specifically, Menin fears that the command center could become a potential terrorist target if it is located at the redeveloped W.T.C. rather than in its vicinity — citing former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s widely criticized move to place the then-police command center at 7 W.T.C.

“When 9/11 happened, so many of the top commanders and officers at the site were out of communication with the rest of the field — that was a major issue,” said Menin.

Meanwhile, the command center, which has temporarily replaced the 1st Precinct horse stable on Ericsson Place, is now being scrutinized for what is considered to be potentially unlawful alterations to the building.

“We don’t think the [city Landmarks Preservation Commission] approved it,” said C.B. 1 Landmarks Committee Chair Roger Byrom. “So we sent an e-mail to the [Department of Buildings] and the L.P.C. saying, ‘Can you tell us what went wrong here.’”

L.P.C. Spokesperson Lisi de Bourbon said the commissioners are investigating the matter per the community’s request. “It’s a landmarked building,” she said. “We’re looking into whether a permit would be needed [to make renovations],” she said. “It’s not clear whether you needed one to begin with.”

C.B. 1 member Michael Connolly, president of the condominium at 27 North Moore Street, also raised the issue of noise and lights emanating from the newly constructed stairwell, which has purportedly been a disturbance to nearby residents.

“At the end of the day, I want the horses to come back,” said Connolly. “In the meantime, we need to address quality of life issues created by building a new staircase in the alley adjacent to the windows of a residential building.”

The nearby residents are outraged about it, said Connolly.

“They said, ‘how could this happen?’” noted Connolly.

The residents who complained weren’t available for comment as of press time.

Meanwhile, construction of W.T.C. 4 is well underway, according to Malcolm Williams, construction manager for Developer Silverstein Properties, who recently gave a tour of the tower to the Downtown Express.

Once fully built out, W.T.C. 4 will have a larger floor plate than does W.T.C. 7 but will share other features with its predecessor, such as a study, concrete core; massive, column-free floors; and floor-to-ceiling windows offering panoramic views of the metropolitan area.

So far, the bottom half the building has been leased out: a quarter of it to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, and the other quarter to the city, which in addition to the first precinct will house the NYC Human Resources Administration. While office workers will enter the completed building on Greenwich Street, shoppers will access the building via Church Street, according to Williams.

As of late November, steel construction reached 56 stories, while construction of the tower’s outer curtain wall is 32 stories high. Workers are just beginning to install the building’s mechanical systems and elevators.

However the tower’s construction isn’t all that rosy. Williams and a team of engineers met with Liberty Street resident Howard and other local residents who recently expressed angst about pedestrian congestion caused by a sidewalk shed Silverstein erected last summer on the southern side of Liberty Street between Church and Greenwich Streets.

However, the engineers agreed with officials’ previous claims that nothing could be done to accelerate the speed of constructing W.T.C. 4’s southern façade — which, once finished, will eliminate the need for the sidewalk shed.

W.T.C. 3, also being handled by Silverstein, is now above grade by two levels. W.T.C. 2, whose foundations and basement levels will be built out by next September, is guaranteed only seven floors’ worth of financing by the Port Authority until the developer finds a 400,000-square-foot tenant (or approximately 10 floors) for the tower.

CarlosV
Dec 8, 2011, 2:11 PM
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2-TOWERS
Dec 8, 2011, 2:53 PM
wow carlos great shots man... I never come to this thread... but seeing this in person and i told you already this is a massive building with bulk.... high def glass will make this the world trade 4 tron sony's way of the jumbo tron lol.. i will pay may ATTENTION to this thread !!!!

NYguy
Dec 9, 2011, 12:06 AM
December 6, 2011

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/140197302/original.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/140197303/original.jpg

hunser
Dec 10, 2011, 4:43 PM
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/world_trade_center_tower_76774.aspx

*The following information was last updated on December 9, 2011.

Steel is now above floor 50
Concrete is being poured above floor 46
Curtain wall installation began in late April 2011 and is now above floor 26
Fireproofing and masonry underway
Below-grade mechanical work underway
Elevator shaft work underway
Two cranes are now active at the site
The tower's substructure reached grade in mid-November 2009

STR
Dec 10, 2011, 4:49 PM
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/140197303/original.jpg

I think I see the beginnings of framing the first floor above the setback.

animatedmartian
Dec 11, 2011, 9:29 PM
The lone column.

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3137/zscren480.png
http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3581/skylineview201112111626.jpg
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=wtc

patriotizzy
Dec 11, 2011, 9:47 PM
So, how much longer until the setback??? It's taking way too fracking long.

Roadcruiser1
Dec 11, 2011, 9:55 PM
So, how much longer until the setback??? It's taking way too fracking long.

We already got to that point.

THE BIG APPLE
Dec 11, 2011, 10:08 PM
I think the building would've looked even more impressive if the portion of the building under the setback would've been higher.

NYCLuver
Dec 12, 2011, 4:30 AM
December 11th, 2011

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/DKNY620/IMG_0940.jpg
http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/DKNY620/IMG_0939.jpg
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http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/DKNY620/IMG_0962.jpg

MrSlippery519
Dec 12, 2011, 7:55 PM
Looks like new steel is going up

QUEENSNYMAN
Dec 12, 2011, 11:33 PM
At what height is the tower now? Also cant wait to see it pop into the skyline view from Rockaway.

cityenthusiast
Dec 12, 2011, 11:55 PM
Ive been waiting for the setback to happen for weeks the anticipation is killing me!!!!!!

animatedmartian
Dec 13, 2011, 6:13 PM
Its height seems more impressive than the webcams let on.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5474/zscren482.png

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/558/zscren483.png
http://www.video-monitoring.com/construction/kpitv/silver.htm

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9241/tower4progress201112131.jpg

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9241/tower4progress201112131.jpg

Check out the reflection! :D

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1439/tower420111213130435.jpg
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/worldtradecenter/?cam=wtc

CarlosV
Dec 13, 2011, 8:04 PM
More steel erected!

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uaarkson
Dec 13, 2011, 8:30 PM
I've never been so happy to see an erection.

animatedmartian
Dec 13, 2011, 8:38 PM
I've never been so happy to see an erection.

:haha::haha::haha:

Roadcruiser1
Dec 13, 2011, 10:51 PM
Ladies and gentlemen 4 World Trade Center has now past it's setback and the top part is the only part that needs completion. Time to celebrate.

chris123678
Dec 13, 2011, 10:57 PM
Um, why is there a steel column all by it's self, with about 5 others on the other end of the tower. I thought one end of the tower would not grow anymore?

JSsocal
Dec 13, 2011, 11:13 PM
The setback goes from the Southwest corner, to roughly the center of the north side of the tower. That column is one of two that will stick up in that corner, you'll notice it is set back several feet from the current column, and that is because of the setback

CarlosV
Dec 14, 2011, 6:56 PM
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Dac150
Dec 14, 2011, 7:06 PM
The mass of this building already seems to dwarf OLP, which itself is a massive building. The final product is going to be huge.

THE BIG APPLE
Dec 15, 2011, 2:04 AM
Why is everyone celebrating, it's just a setback; something 2 and 3 WTC are facing right now.

NYC2ATX
Dec 15, 2011, 6:49 AM
I've never been so happy to see an erection.

homie don't even get me started. :rolleyes:

Why is everyone celebrating, it's just a setback; something 2 and 3 WTC are facing right now.

well someone's a Debbie Downer. :P

THE BIG APPLE
Dec 15, 2011, 11:02 PM
^ Actually it's called a sense of humor.:)

CarlosV
Dec 16, 2011, 3:06 PM
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