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KingKrunch
Mar 5, 2009, 12:58 AM
Finally :)

NYguy
Mar 5, 2009, 1:13 AM
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/14_61_t4-tower-crane.jpg

http://wtc.com

:tup:

Here we go.

theWatusi
Mar 5, 2009, 1:22 AM
another tower crane for the site is just what the doctor ordered :yes:

NYguy
Mar 5, 2009, 1:24 AM
Here's the larger version:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109853737/original.jpg

uaarkson
Mar 5, 2009, 1:55 AM
progress on this tower should be blazing fast compared to the other sites

NYguy
Mar 5, 2009, 2:22 AM
^ It's got about a year headstart, so it should. Tower 3 should be next in line as far as progress goes.

pattali
Mar 5, 2009, 7:36 AM
^^^ A ton of congrats , change is coming , I am so happy !

37TimPPG
Mar 5, 2009, 5:54 PM
Silverstein certainly knows what he is doing. Love seeing that crane being installed!

NYCLuver
Mar 6, 2009, 3:24 AM
The crane is up! :D

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0120.jpg

NYguy
Mar 6, 2009, 6:21 AM
Yes indeed, the crane is up! It's the first of 3 cranes for this tower, and for people who don't know anything about the WTC reconstruction (most people), this is the first sign that there is in fact a tower rising on that site. It's the first above ground sign of a march to the sky nearly 1,000 ft above street level.

MARCH 5, 2009

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109887479/large.jpg

Tower 4, meet Tower 1
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109887684/large.jpg

A sweet sight
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109887755/large.jpg

Seven WTC stands proud, ready to welcome its WTC brethren
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109887876/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109887883/large.jpg

In time, these towers will be dwarfed
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109887887/large.jpg

Jumble of construction equipment
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/109887891/large.jpg

hunser
Mar 6, 2009, 1:23 PM
wow wow wow, the crane is up!! when i look at those pics i get a proud feeling, don't ask me why :D . eventually the whole wtc reconstrucion site is taking shape! the only thing what disturbes me every time: 975ft!! why can't it be over 1000ft?? then ny would have one supertall more... :banana:

ZZ-II
Mar 6, 2009, 3:33 PM
wow, 3 tower cranes..that's alot

Dac150
Mar 6, 2009, 4:39 PM
As much as I love 1 Liberty Plaza, I'm going to enjoy seeing it get dwarfed.

NYguy
Mar 7, 2009, 1:58 PM
As much as I love 1 Liberty Plaza, I'm going to enjoy seeing it get dwarfed.

My sentiments exactly. :yes:

And as much as this tower will dwarf Liberty Plaza, it will be dwarfed in turn by Tower 3.
(Which in turn will be dominated somewhat by those other two towers accross the way...:sly: )

NYguy
Mar 7, 2009, 2:43 PM
Crane before installation complete...

predsprowl (http://www.flickr.com/photos/predsprowl/3330902506/sizes/l/in/set-72157614763518301/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3587/3330902506_3e6ca0074d_b.jpg

Scruffy
Mar 7, 2009, 5:13 PM
I don't expect to see steel cracking street level next month, but I do not think it will take as long to reach street as it took 1wtc to do it when it was at this stage. This is a far less complicated build

RoldanTTLB
Mar 7, 2009, 9:44 PM
That last shot looks like it was taken from the second floor of the Burger King. I haven't been there in forever.

NYguy
Mar 8, 2009, 1:12 PM
^ I go up there, but never look out that window.

I don't expect to see steel cracking street level next month, but I do not think it will take as long to reach street as it took 1wtc to do it when it was at this stage. This is a far less complicated build

It is, but there is still the small matter of the PA hampering Silverstein's completion of the entire foundation. But lately, it looks like that's coming to an end.

Nomadd22
Mar 8, 2009, 1:44 PM
I hope somebody does a time lapse of WTC4 going up with the Deutsche building in the background going down. People wouldn't know if the video was running forward or backward.

37TimPPG
Mar 8, 2009, 9:28 PM
It is amazing to me the amount of progress that has been happening lately at the entire site. This has to be one of, if not, the most complex construction projects ever undertaken in such a limited area.

Can't wait to see the majestic towers take shape on their march towards the heavens.

photoLith
Mar 9, 2009, 2:28 AM
I hope somebody does a time lapse of WTC4 going up with the Deutsche building in the background going down. People wouldn't know if the video was running forward or backward.

There is a project that has installed time lapse cameras all over the WTC site. They have been doing it since about 2002 I believe. And when the entire project is done they are going to make a documentary about the site and the people who have been working on it with tons of time lapse videos of the site from start to finish.

http://www.projectrebirth.org/

Check that shiz out, its amazing!

A-K O.G.
Mar 9, 2009, 4:57 AM
yes..pleasing progress! On deck 175 GW st. (T3)..

NYguy
Mar 9, 2009, 11:47 PM
Overhead from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33965463@N00/3342521328/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3342503640_a272e5bb83_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3342509220_c2e4e322f2_b.jpg

A-K O.G.
Mar 9, 2009, 11:52 PM
Also, looks as tho you can walk the memorial the entire distance north to south on solid floor now..!

NYguy
Mar 9, 2009, 11:59 PM
^ Memorial construction is moving faster than anything right now. They expect to have all of the steel in place before the end of the year.

jo91805 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29753115@N05/3337901895/sizes/o/in/photostream/)

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NYguy
Mar 11, 2009, 12:23 AM
wtc.com

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/14_61_Tower-4-Crane-March-2009-II.jpg


http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/14_61_Tower-4-Crane-March-2009.jpg


Larger version:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110080131/original.jpg

photoLith
Mar 11, 2009, 2:08 AM
gah! The last 3 months have been so exciting with this project! Its only going to be getting better as the months and years progress.

37TimPPG
Mar 11, 2009, 3:01 AM
There is nothing more beautiful than the sight of a skyscraper under construction. Thank you, Mr. Silverstein for giving us this wonderful opportunity to view history in the making.

NYguy
Mar 11, 2009, 11:42 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/03/10/2009-03-10_city_lowers_boom_on_crane_hazard_on_wtc_.html

City lowers boom on crane hazard on WTC street

BY Brian Kates
March 11th 2009

The city Tuesday ordered a halt to crane use at a World Trade Center tower after inspectors caught a contractor lifting a 50,000-pound crane part over a busy street into Ground Zero without a permit.

The hazardous incident happened as the contractor, Tishman Construction, was preparing to erect a huge tower crane at World Trade Center Tower 4.

A Tishman subcontractor used a smaller crane last Thursday to hoist the mammoth crane's boom over Church St., which was teeming with traffic and pedestrians.

The work was done without a permit and contrary to approved plans, the Buildings Department said.

The order has not stopped all construction at the site, but it has idled dozens of hardhats who need the crane to do their work.

The Buildings Department and the city Transportation Department issued violations to Tishman Construction; the company operating the smaller crane, DCM Erectors, and to the Port Authority, which owns the site.

The action marks the first time the city has flexed its muscle under a deal reached last week with the Port Authority granting the Buildings Department the power to issue violations for crane safety hazards at the bistate agency's city work sites.

In a meeting Tuesday, the Transportation Department informed Tishman and DCM that work would not resume until the contractor submits a final plan addressing crane safety at the site, an agency spokesman said.

There are 24 cranes operating on the 16-acre World Trade Center site, and the city wrangled for months to obtain the power to enforce crane safety there.

_________________________________

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--wtccranes0310mar10,0,730344.story
NYC revokes permits for 2 ground zero cranes

March 10, 2009

NEW YORK - New York City has revoked work permits for two cranes at the World Trade Center site after a crane part was placed in a nearby street.

The city says that contractors building one of four planned office towers at the site didn't have permission to put a crane boom down in a street before raising it. Tishman Construction was using one crane to lift a taller crane for the skyscraper under construction. It is one of three office towers being built at the government-owned site by private developer Larry Silverstein.

The cranes have been out of commission since Thursday.

Tishman spokesman John Gallagher says contractors are meeting with the city Tuesday to address crane concerns.

37TimPPG
Mar 11, 2009, 2:28 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/03/10/2009-03-10_city_lowers_boom_on_crane_hazard_on_wtc_.html

City lowers boom on crane hazard on WTC street

BY Brian Kates
March 11th 2009

The city Tuesday ordered a halt to crane use at a World Trade Center tower after inspectors caught a contractor lifting a 50,000-pound crane part over a busy street into Ground Zero without a permit.

The hazardous incident happened as the contractor, Tishman Construction, was preparing to erect a huge tower crane at World Trade Center Tower 4.

A Tishman subcontractor used a smaller crane last Thursday to hoist the mammoth crane's boom over Church St., which was teeming with traffic and pedestrians.

The work was done without a permit and contrary to approved plans, the Buildings Department said.

The order has not stopped all construction at the site, but it has idled dozens of hardhats who need the crane to do their work.

The Buildings Department and the city Transportation Department issued violations to Tishman Construction; the company operating the smaller crane, DCM Erectors, and to the Port Authority, which owns the site.

The action marks the first time the city has flexed its muscle under a deal reached last week with the Port Authority granting the Buildings Department the power to issue violations for crane safety hazards at the bistate agency's city work sites.

In a meeting Tuesday, the Transportation Department informed Tishman and DCM that work would not resume until the contractor submits a final plan addressing crane safety at the site, an agency spokesman said.

There are 24 cranes operating on the 16-acre World Trade Center site, and the city wrangled for months to obtain the power to enforce crane safety there.

_________________________________

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--wtccranes0310mar10,0,730344.story
NYC revokes permits for 2 ground zero cranes

March 10, 2009

NEW YORK - New York City has revoked work permits for two cranes at the World Trade Center site after a crane part was placed in a nearby street.

The city says that contractors building one of four planned office towers at the site didn't have permission to put a crane boom down in a street before raising it. Tishman Construction was using one crane to lift a taller crane for the skyscraper under construction. It is one of three office towers being built at the government-owned site by private developer Larry Silverstein.

The cranes have been out of commission since Thursday.

Tishman spokesman John Gallagher says contractors are meeting with the city Tuesday to address crane concerns.


NUTS!

shakman
Mar 11, 2009, 4:13 PM
:previous: :previous: OOPS!!! A very stupid OOPS!!!

colemonkee
Mar 11, 2009, 6:19 PM
In light of what has happened over the last year in NYC, I agree with the City here. Developers should properly notify the City when they will be lifting over unprotected areas like a street so that the City can take the necessary precautions to mitigate risks to pedestrians and construction workers.

By no means should it completely stop construction projects, but they should put things on hold until all safety measures have been put into place and double and triple checked. Once they are, that crane should go up quickly.

Essentially, do it, but do it right.

T-Mac
Mar 11, 2009, 7:10 PM
Overhead from morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33965463@N00/3342521328/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3342503640_a272e5bb83_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3342509220_c2e4e322f2_b.jpg

What will all these underground levels end up being used for under the memorial? In the pictures, where the crane is in the center and they haven't put any steel, what will be there. I think I remember it being trees and grass on top but will any of the underground be used for the public or is it all mechancial uses, etc?

JSsocal
Mar 11, 2009, 10:12 PM
^^^most of the floors of the structure will be used for the memorial museum, except for a couple on the bottom for mechanical stuff. Here's the memorial website... http://www.national911memorial.org/site/PageServer?pagename=New_Home

NYguy
Mar 12, 2009, 12:08 AM
In light of what has happened over the last year in NYC, I agree with the City here. Developers should properly notify the City when they will be lifting over unprotected areas like a street so that the City can take the necessary precautions to mitigate risks to pedestrians and construction workers.

Yeah, ordinarily I would be annoyed with a minor delay, but as a pedestrian who walks around this massive construction site, (and others around the city), I have to agree. Safety first!
http://panynj.com/AboutthePortAuthority/PressCenter/PressReleases/PressRelease/index.php?id=1209

NYguy
Mar 13, 2009, 4:57 AM
http://downtownexpress.com/de_307/workstopped.html

Work stopped after W.T.C. crane dangles over street

By Josh Rogers

World Trade Center contractors allowed a heavy crane boom to hover over bustling Church St. last Thursday without getting approval to do so.

The city Departments of Buildings and Transportation issued violations to Tishman Construction, which was erecting a crane to build Tower 4 for Silverstein Properties March 5.

“Lifting over the street can put pedestrians and drivers in danger if the proper safety precautions have not been taken,” said Kate Lindquist, a Buildings spokesperson. The agency issued a stop work order on both the tower and mobile crane, which was used to transport the boom across the busy street. No fines have been issued yet but the agency is still reviewing the case.

Tishman had a D.O.B. permit but not one from Transportation, and the Buildings permit was contingent on the firm obtaining a permit to close the street. A Transportation spokesperson said the agency would never issue such a permit during the week and will consider granting Tishman a weekend permit to close Church St. once the firm submits a safe plan.

“Safety is our top priority, and we held a meeting yesterday to discuss procedures to prevent an incident like this from happening again,” D.O.T. said in a prepared statement Wednesday. “A stop-work order remains in place for this part of the work site until the contractor submits a final plan addressing this issue.”

John Gallagher, Tishman’s spokesperson, said in a prepared statement that “we are working to address [the city’s] concerns.”

A Silverstein spokesperson had no comment beyond the Tishman statement.

“The community was lucky in this case that no one was hurt, but this would not be allowed in any other part of the city,” said Catherine McVay Hughes, chairperson of Community Board 1’s World Trade Center Committee. “What will be done to prevent this from happening again?”

Hughes wanted to make sure violations at the W.T.C. are posted on the Buildings’ Web site.

Lindquist said the department is planning to post W.T.C. violations on its site but the agency has just formalized its agreement with the Port and plans to develop a system to do this soon.

WOR Radio, which is based near the W.T.C., first reported the crane violations five days later and posted a picture on its Web site.

The Port Authority of New York and Jersey, which owns the W.T.C., announced in January that it was opening the site to city inspectors regularly. Chris Ward, the Port’s executive director, said then that they would post incidents at wtcprogress.com on a weekly basis.

Steve Coleman, a Port spokesperson, said the authority did not put anything on its Web site about the crane problems, but they did let all of the groups involved with W.T.C. rebuilding know.

“We reached out to stakeholders just as we always do and we’ll continue to provide frequent and appropriate updates in the future,” he wrote in an email to Downtown Express.

The day after the incident, the Port announced it had signed a memorandum of understanding with the Buildings Dept. for crane inspections. Coleman said the timing of the agreement was unrelated to the violations by a Silverstein contractor.

The agreement was under discussion for quite some time and coincidentally, it was signed the day of the incident and announced the next day, Coleman said.

KingKrunch
Mar 13, 2009, 10:30 PM
The RebuildGroundZero webcam is finally back up :)
http://www.rebuildgroundzero.org/modules/mod_webcam_pop_up.php?refresh=60&altText=Groud+Zero+Webcam+-+Rebuild+Ground+Zero+.org&camImgY=768&camImgX=960&imageurl=http://rebuildgroundzero.org/webcam/rgz_000.jpg

NYCLuver
Mar 14, 2009, 12:00 AM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t263/DKNY617/IMG_0150.jpg

NYguy
Mar 14, 2009, 12:49 PM
MARCH 13, 2009

1. Work continues with our newest crane...
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110180992/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110180997/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181003/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181005/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181007/large.jpg

6. - 7. This tower will be a giant among giants
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181010/large.jpg__http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181036/large.jpg

8. - 9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181032/large.jpg__http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181043/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110181130/large.jpg

NYguy
Mar 16, 2009, 11:34 AM
Distant shot

mascaralullaby (http://www.flickr.com/photos/83582750@N00/3355818274/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3634/3355818274_fbbb87dd1d_b.jpg

Nomadd22
Mar 16, 2009, 11:51 AM
Expect OSHA to show up and issue a citation to the contractor for every pedestrian in range who wasn't wearing a hardhat when the crane was over the street.

uaarkson
Mar 16, 2009, 4:21 PM
whoa, I've never seen those lights before. what street is that on?

Dac150
Mar 16, 2009, 4:35 PM
I love that plaza, especially at night.

NYC2ATX
Mar 16, 2009, 6:37 PM
whoa, I've never seen those lights before. what street is that on?

That's the newly renovated (I say newly but it was completed about two years ago) Liberty Plaza. It is adjacent to the WTC site as seen in that photo, between Church Street and Broadway.

NYguy
Mar 16, 2009, 11:30 PM
That's the newly renovated (I say newly but it was completed about two years ago) Liberty Plaza. It is adjacent to the WTC site as seen in that photo, between Church Street and Broadway.

It's a nice spot to sit and look up at the towers. The new 4 WTC will join this group...

Brian Einarsen (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brian_einarsen/3168874934/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/3168874934_b512fd6a57_b.jpg

NYguy
Mar 19, 2009, 6:19 AM
morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33965463@N00/3365403201/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3365385411_570bb90efd_b.jpg

NYguy
Mar 20, 2009, 12:15 AM
whoa, I've never seen those lights before. what street is that on?

Here's a better angle of the park plaza looking in the direction of 4 WTC.

Ricardo.Rodriquez (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36440182@N03/3364087696/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3364087696_0656484a35_b.jpg__http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3364086944_91862fbba7_b.jpg

NYguy
Mar 21, 2009, 11:55 PM
MARCH 20, 2009

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110464787/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110464827/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110464904/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110464978/large.jpg

NYguy
Mar 22, 2009, 12:24 AM
Dacchi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61593249@N00/3371243353/sizes/l/in/set-72157615434878021/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3371243353_0885965656_b.jpg

NYguy
Mar 22, 2009, 1:08 PM
Lorezo Amisano (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lorenzo-amisano/3372716595/sizes/o/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/3372716595_79e7e8aa48_o.jpg

chex
Mar 23, 2009, 7:06 AM
almost street level!
nice pix! i like this kind of pics, very urban... cranes, buildings, steam, people, traffic lights... cool.

NYguy
Mar 23, 2009, 12:54 PM
almost street level!

Maybe by the end of the summer.

chex
Mar 23, 2009, 5:12 PM
but on your pix looks like one more floor of steel beams and they reach it!

Thymant
Mar 23, 2009, 11:45 PM
Ahh. When is it going to get above the ground.

NYguy
Mar 24, 2009, 12:39 AM
but on your pix looks like one more floor of steel beams and they reach it!


There's a lot more to go before street level.

http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/14_61_Tower-4-Crane-March-2009.jpg

NYguy
Mar 24, 2009, 12:41 PM
OmahaMH (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67774977@N00/3381198128/sizes/l/in/set-72157615828980464/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3438/3381198128_7a778e8916_b.jpg

chex
Mar 24, 2009, 5:24 PM
yeah! sorry, my mistake, mi brain was fooled, with your first pic above... its the part tehy are building between the memorial and tower 4!! thanx nyguy again! haha..

NYguy
Mar 25, 2009, 12:15 AM
yeah! sorry, my mistake, mi brain was fooled, with your first pic above... its the part tehy are building between the memorial and tower 4!! thanx nyguy again! haha..

I believe its the memorial you were talking about. You can get a better understanding of placement from this angle:

morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33965463@N00/3379657893/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3379647187_af13d7d63a_b.jpg

chex
Mar 25, 2009, 5:42 AM
MARCH 20, 2009

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110464787/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/110464827/large.jpg


yeah i guess so, it was with this 2 pics... and i think it's that part with the steel beams looking like stripes, the one for the train i guess, that i thought it was the tower 4...

thanx again, nice pic there..

NYguy
Mar 25, 2009, 12:00 PM
^ Yeah, that's the memorial, largely up to street level.

milophoto (http://www.flickr.com/photos/milophoto/3383634611/sizes/o/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3383634611_4cce9a15d6_o.jpg

talltowers08
Mar 25, 2009, 5:13 PM
where are the perimeter colums for wtc4 ?

NYguy
Mar 25, 2009, 10:51 PM
where are the perimeter colums for wtc4 ?

They will be on the perimeter (the outside) of the tower.

NYguy
Mar 26, 2009, 8:51 PM
Quote from the Downtown Express...

http://downtownexpress.com/de_309/bustleanddelay.html

Looming above the Tower 4 construction is one of the latest additions to the site: a tower crane Silverstein Properties installed at the beginning of the month. Local residents have turned a nervous eye to the crane after contractor Tishman Construction allowed it to dangle over cars and pedestrians on Church St. March 5.

The city Dept. of Buildings, which only recently gained the authority to issue violations on the W.T.C. site, stopped work on Tower 4 after the incident. Tishman presented a revised safety plan to the Port Authority the next week, and the Port was satisfied, so the D.O.B. lifted the stop-work order, said Steven Figueiredo, liaison with the D.O.B.

Figueiredo told Community Board 1’s Quality of Life Committee that the city did not see the new safety plan.

“We’re not privy to the safety plan,” Figueiredo said.

The D.O.B. is still looking into why Tishman allowed the crane to be suspended over the busy street. Tishman should have sought a permit from the city Dept. of Transportation to close the street during the work, Figueiredo said.

NYguy
Mar 28, 2009, 12:17 PM
Hendrik Hoefer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schmoell/3390566903/sizes/l/in/set-72157616002359554/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3639/3390566903_5b722a69e2_b.jpg

NYguy
Mar 28, 2009, 12:29 PM
Heavy lifting...

Andurinha (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andurinha/3389805481/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3389805481_df41816be4_b.jpg

Nomadd22
Mar 30, 2009, 12:14 PM
It's kinda hard to tell, but is there some sort of action happening on that #1 line retaining wall that Larry was complaining about? I never was really clear on how much that was holding things up.

NYguy
Mar 30, 2009, 12:19 PM
It's kinda hard to tell, but is there some sort of action happening on that #1 line retaining wall that Larry was complaining about? I never was really clear on how much that was holding things up.

The Port Authority has been working on that, and is due to give Silverstein full access to all of the sites this week. Of course, with the PA, no date is set in stone, so we'll see.

NYguy
Mar 30, 2009, 12:39 PM
Emma Ni Loingsigh (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33946729@N04/3397413030/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/3397413030_029abbe933_b.jpg


Where were you when the new World Trade was built?...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3543/3396605483_1c0d4b3512_b.jpg

Aleks
Mar 31, 2009, 2:21 AM
i dont like it and in my opinion i dojnt think it fits in with the rest of the complex
they need to redesign this tower again in my opinion
way 2 fat!!!

Worst post of the year award! My opinion on this tower has changed so much over time! I feel silly now!

NYguy
Mar 31, 2009, 11:31 AM
My opinion on this tower has changed so much over time! I feel silly now!

Well, opinion can and do change sometimes. I do however believe that more people will like it in the end.
A lot is riding on the cladding which is to be the signature of this tower.


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NYguy
Mar 31, 2009, 11:48 AM
For an idea of scale, this tower will be about the height of Australia's Eureka Tower

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Also, Japan's Landmark Tower is near the same height...

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NYguy
Mar 31, 2009, 12:12 PM
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MercurySky
Mar 31, 2009, 7:25 PM
The height and design are fine. Actually it is my favorite of the five towers including 7. I just hope the cladding although aluminum will echo the etheral look of building 7.

hammersklavier
Mar 31, 2009, 8:08 PM
What kind of cladding will it be? Some pictures suggest shiny metal cladding, others glass cladding a la the Comcast Center, where the cladding is most definitely effective!

Zerton
Mar 31, 2009, 8:15 PM
This tower is very nice, but I with the Foster tower would go up first. :|

NYguy
Mar 31, 2009, 11:52 PM
What kind of cladding will it be? Some pictures suggest shiny metal cladding, others glass cladding a la the Comcast Center, where the cladding is most definitely effective!

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=506

it would be clad in a perforated aluminum that would make it the lightest-colored of the three buildings. In the 146,000 square feet of retail space at the base, Maki has proposed a multilevel public chamber at Liberty Street, through which commuters bound for Wall Street, will pass. He has also proposed a restaurant overlooking the memorial plaza, offering the public an elevated vantage. Maki's building will look transparent from the inside but a metallic mesh, which pays homage to midtown's Chrysler Building, will make it look luminous from the outside

CoolCzech
Apr 1, 2009, 1:24 AM
"...but a metallic mesh, which pays homage to midtown's Chrysler Building, will make it look luminous from the outside"

How does a "metallic mesh" pay homage to the Chrysler??

samoen313
Apr 1, 2009, 9:06 AM
"...but a metallic mesh, which pays homage to midtown's Chrysler Building, will make it look luminous from the outside"

How does a "metallic mesh" pay homage to the Chrysler??

Right?? Unless there's something missing or the cladding is different than most of us are imagining, I would say that comes right out of the "retroactive justification" file that corpo firms love.

I'm sure it would look great and "luminous" at night. But really, what building doesn't? I'm more afraid that this metallic mesh will be the same stuff on the NY Times Tower. I know it has distinct and advantageous properties to help the environmental effects within the building, but it wipes the face clean of any depth or texture. Only time will tell. I hope we're pleasantly surprised.

NYCLuver
Apr 1, 2009, 11:03 AM
I guess the aluminum metallic mesh on the facade pays tribute to the Chrysler's spire which is nickel or something, aluminum.

NYguy
Apr 1, 2009, 11:39 AM
I guess the aluminum metallic mesh on the facade pays tribute to the Chrysler's spire which is nickel or something, aluminum.

The Chrysler's spire really shines when the sunlight hits it just right. I'm assuming this tower will be just the same. But really, we won't know until the cladding begins. Either way, it will be different from the other towers.

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NYguy
Apr 3, 2009, 4:11 AM
The greatest show in town...

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Apr 8, 2009, 11:08 PM
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NYguy
Apr 9, 2009, 6:42 AM
Image from Epoch Times...
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/15020/

Downtown 2020: Manhattan's Lifeline Into the Future

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World Trade Center towers keep rising in Downtown Manhattan.

By Charlotte Cuthbertson
April 8, 2009

Preparing for the Good Times

Elizabeth Berger, President of Alliance for Downtown New York, was adamant that Lower Manhattan not only has a future, “but could lead the future.” She said the area remains the business location of choice, proven by the 203 firms that have moved operations there since 2005. Between 2005 and 2008, employment increased by 26 percent in Downtown Manhattan, she said. The residential population Downtown has doubled sine 9/11, and tourism has almost doubled since 2003.

“We have to keep building and diversifying. We have to be ready for the next wave of investment and prosperity,” Berger said.

She outlined the business community’s priorities, the first being the World Trade Center. “We have to keep this going. This is the single largest stimulus project in New York City. We need this project.”
The redevelopment of the WTC site will provide the office infrastructure that will be required to remain the business capital of the world when the economy recovers, she said.

The second priority is the Fulton Transit Center, Berger said. She said the Transit Center should have: “More capacity, better connections, and the kinds of passenger amenities that employees expect—as they get them in Midtown and every other international business center.

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President and CEO of Silverstein Properties, Larry Silverstein, said his company will build three towers along the eastern side of the 16-acre WTC.


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NYguy
Apr 9, 2009, 7:18 AM
When to expect second crane...
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/construction/project_updates/world_trade_center_tower_76774.aspx

*The following information was last updated on April 9, 2009.

-Foundation work including pouring concrete

-Port Authority turned over "offset" area near 1 train box; SPI now completing foundations

-Paving for Vehicular Security Center ramp on southeast corner

-Tower crane was installed in early March 2009; second crane to be installed in August 2009.

NYguy
Apr 10, 2009, 5:32 AM
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Apr 11, 2009, 10:28 PM
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NYguy
Apr 13, 2009, 10:45 PM
Taken from wtc.com


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talltowers08
Apr 13, 2009, 10:56 PM
this tower is racing thru sublevels

NYguy
Apr 14, 2009, 11:50 AM
A little cement...

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Nomadd22
Apr 14, 2009, 11:59 AM
I'm still a little confused as to what the problem near the 1 line wall was. It looks like they just backed one section off a couple of feet.
Guess I could get off my lazy Jersey butt and go look.

Aleks
Apr 14, 2009, 10:15 PM
That small red building is going to look amazing next to this beauty!

NYguy
Apr 15, 2009, 9:56 PM
http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2009/april/156_credit-freeze-could-icewtc-site.html

Credit Freeze Could Ice World Trade Center Site

By Matt Dunning
UPDATED Apr. 15

During the April 13 community board meeting, Lieber was asked when construction of Tower 4 would reach street level.

“You mean, if we keep it going?” he answered, adding that the company may have to stop construction on Tower 4 to allow the Authority time to catch up on infrastructure work, some of which cannot be completed until foundation work on Towers 2 and 3 begins. The three buildings were to be completed between 2012 and 2015.

“We’re trying to figure out whether you can finish, open and operate a building, given where they are in the infrastructure,” Lieber said.

NYguy
Apr 16, 2009, 6:13 AM
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NYguy
Apr 21, 2009, 11:40 AM
http://www.observer.com/2009/real-estate/huge-credit-worthy-tenant-deloitte-thickens-plot-world-financial-center

Huge, Credit-Worthy Tenant Deloitte Thickens the Plot at World Financial Center

By Dana Rubinstein
April 20, 2009

The plot has thickened at Brookfield Properties' World Financial Center, a mammoth office complex that's been the source of endless speculation since Bank of America bought its primary tenant, Merrill Lynch, during the bank consolidations of yesteryear.

Now, new complications! Deloitte -- the enormous accounting firm with headquarters at Two World Financial Center--has issued a request for proposals to landlords across the city in search of between 600,000 and 800,000 square feet of office space, according to industry sources.

Deloitte's reps at Cushman & Wakefield, John Cefaly and Dale Schlather, wouldn't comment for this story, but insiders tell The Observer that the landlords of both 11 Times Square and the future 4 World Trade Center have received the request for proposal.

NYguy
Apr 21, 2009, 8:44 PM
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NYguy
Apr 27, 2009, 11:17 PM
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CoolCzech
Apr 30, 2009, 1:44 AM
Those last two photos look photoshopped...

NYguy
Apr 30, 2009, 5:28 AM
Rising in one corner of the site...

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NYguy
May 1, 2009, 5:53 AM
Race to the top...

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NYguy
May 6, 2009, 11:12 PM
Posted on wtc.com (May 1)

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