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NYguy
Mar 16, 2010, 3:16 PM
SteveDale (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephendale/4437437293/sizes/l/)

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CalibratedZeus
Mar 16, 2010, 10:07 PM
morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4439170754/sizes/l/) 3/16

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NYCLuver
Mar 17, 2010, 12:46 AM
March 16th, 2010

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NYCLuver
Mar 18, 2010, 7:03 AM
March 17th, 2010

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2-TOWERS
Mar 19, 2010, 3:09 AM
Looking Good...too Bad This Building Is Overshadowed By One World Trade.... But Soon As This Building Grows She Will Get Alot Of Attention

NYguy
Mar 19, 2010, 4:14 AM
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Cat 328D LCR
Mar 19, 2010, 11:13 AM
3-18-10

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NYguy
Mar 19, 2010, 1:30 PM
Great, keep the pics coming...:tup:

37TimPPG
Mar 19, 2010, 10:47 PM
Damn! Silverstein sure knows how to build 'em! Seems like just 6 months ago this building was just a hole in the ground.

Now if PA can get its act together 2WTC and 3WTC can join in on the building fun! :)

Thymant
Mar 19, 2010, 10:50 PM
ummm... not too impressed with progress.

NYCLuver
Mar 19, 2010, 11:38 PM
March 19th, 2010

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy306/DKNY619/IMG_1223.jpg
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http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy306/DKNY619/IMG_1222.jpg

And yes the shadows on the ground, are being caused by the blinding reflection off of 7 WTC. :haha:

BStyles
Mar 20, 2010, 2:57 AM
AAH! MY EYES!!!

I had a feeling that glass buildings would have that side effect. It's a good thing it won't last long.
March 19th, 2010
http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy306/DKNY619/IMG_1217.jpg
I've veen waiting a long time to do this. From: http://www.wtc.com
http://www.wtc.com/uploads/images/712x534/34_02_Tower4_Rendering.jpg

canadate
Mar 20, 2010, 1:46 PM
Took these yesterday evening.

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NYguy
Mar 20, 2010, 2:00 PM
:tup:
Loving all the shots, the tower is beginning to look like itself. It's not the most distinctive of the WTC towers, but it will probably be the most inviting, public friendly of the group.

NYguy
Mar 22, 2010, 7:57 PM
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NYguy
Mar 25, 2010, 1:09 PM
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NYguy
Mar 25, 2010, 10:55 PM
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NYguy
Mar 27, 2010, 3:38 PM
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NYguy
Mar 29, 2010, 1:58 PM
http://www.bondbuyer.com/issues/119_308/port_authority_ny_nj-1010158-1.html

N.Y.-N.J. Port Readies Refunding

March 29, 2010
By Ted Phillips

Development at the WTC stalled in part because the Port Authority was late delivering sites for development to Silverstein Properties, and because the downturn in the economy made financing three towers more difficult. Silverstein leases the site from the Port Authority.

In December, the New York Liberty Development Corp. sold $2.59 billion of escrow bonds on behalf of Silverstein to develop the World Trade Center site. The bond proceeds were escrowed because the authority and Silverstein were still in talks about a revised development agreement and the authorization for the federal Liberty bond program expired on Dec. 31.

The bonds were issued as mandatory tender bonds that all can be called on Oct. 12, 2010. The tender would allow for the debt to be remarketed as variable or fixed bonds with proceeds used for construction or as new escrow bonds if necessary.

Congress created the Liberty bond program following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks that destroyed the original World Trade Center. Liberty bonds are tax-exempt debt not subject to New York State’s private-activity bond volume cap.

Silverstein plans to use the Liberty Bonds to partially finance two towers. To use the bond proceeds, they have to be remarketed.

The authority and New York City have already agreed to lease 60% of Tower 4, which is already under construction and due to be completed in 2013.

Under last week’s tentative agreement, the Port Authority would agree to provide a lease on the currently unrented 40% of the tower that would serve as security on the remarketed Liberty bonds if Silverstein was unable to fully rent up the building.

Tower 3 would also use Liberty bond proceeds, but its construction would progress only if Silverstein met certain targets. New York City, the state, and the Port Authority would agree to act as a guarantors of the bonds for up to $390 million if Silverstein were unable to make debt service payments.

The city, state and authority would also contribute $210 million to the project. The city’s portion would be in the form of $130 million of forgiven payments in lieu of taxes that Silverstein would otherwise have to make.

Silverstein would be required to raise $300 million of private unsupported equity, pre-lease 400,000 square feet of the tower, and obtain private financing.

Neither the authority, which is building Tower 1, nor the city will sell bonds to support Silverstein’s towers, city and authority spokesman said.

Plans for Tower 2 would be put on hold.

The Port Authority still expects to use $701.6 million of Liberty bonds allocated to finance its tower, assuming Congress passes a retroactive extension of the bond program.

NYguy
Mar 30, 2010, 1:31 PM
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wco
Mar 30, 2010, 5:12 PM
Wow. It's really moving along. Good stuff.

Zapatan
Mar 30, 2010, 8:29 PM
I really like this building, good stuff


It has 64 floors, at least according to the official site on silverstein properties, someone should change the title.

plinko
Mar 31, 2010, 2:09 AM
I'm alot more excited about this tower than 1WTC. I can't wait to see Maki's scintillating facade shimmer up nearly 1,000ft.

JACKinBeantown
Mar 31, 2010, 2:14 AM
I'm not. This one's more of a glass box. Too many glass boxes. At least the French Tower has the corners cut off.

NYguy
Mar 31, 2010, 1:17 PM
I'm alot more excited about this tower than 1WTC. I can't wait to see Maki's scintillating facade shimmer up nearly 1,000ft.

I can't wait to see the frame of this tower rising into the sky opposite the frame of the Freedom Tower. Two towers, at opposite ends of the site. While construction at the site, and on both towers has been ongoing for a long time now, it's that visual presence in the sky that most people will see and connect with. The stigma of a "ground zero" with little progress will be finally gone.

OneWorldTradeCenter
Mar 31, 2010, 4:13 PM
Could someone please the floor-count to 64 here???

NYCLuver
Mar 31, 2010, 11:03 PM
March 31st, 2010

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/DKNY620/IMG_1254.jpg

NYguy
Apr 1, 2010, 1:05 AM
http://lowermanhattan.info/news/3_questions_for_scott_54299.aspx

3 Questions for Scott Thompson, 4 WTC

March 26, 2010

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Scott Thompson, Silverstein Properties' project executive for Tower 4



The complexity of erecting a tower at the World Trade Center (WTC) site is unparalleled in New York City. The substructure alone for both 1 WTC and 4 WTC required more than two years’ time to plant the towers’ footings on bedrock, then construct reinforced-steel levels as deep down as 85 feet -- all while coordinating infrastructure for extensive utilities; the rebuilt Cortlandt, Fulton, and Greenwich Streets; and the Vehicular Security Center (VSC).

Then there are things like discovering a million-year-old glacial formation in the heart of the construction site, as was the case at the Tower 4 site.

For Scott Thompson, Silverstein Properties’ project executive for Tower 4, no detail of building the 2.5 million-square-foot skyscraper goes unnoticed. A New York native, Mr. Thompson has been building towers in New York City and the region for more than 20 years. He joined the Silverstein team at the start of 4 WTC construction in 2008, and is now at the center of coordination to get the building to its ultimate height of 64 stories.

The tower reached grade at the end of 2009, and Mr. Thompson is now managing ongoing superstructure erection by contractor Tishman Construction. And while the outcome of WTC arbitration proceedings have yet to be finalized, his team continues to install the steel beams (horizontal members) and columns (vertical members) with the help of two tower cranes and an average of more than 125 daily construction workers and tradesmen.

We asked Mr. Thompson three questions about his work at 4 WTC, and some of the complexities it involves.

Steel superstructure is rising at 4 WTC -- what’s the process for procuring skyscraper steel?

Mr. Thompson: The process begins with the structural engineer for Tower 4, Leslie E. Robertson Associates (LERA), preparing a set of drawings that show the sizes of standard steel shapes required to hold up the building. Our general contractor, Tishman, takes these drawings and prepares a scope of work which was used to solicit bids from steel contractors. The entire project will have 26,000 tons of structural steel.

We have five shops across the east coast fabricating the structural steel for Tower 4. The steel used is among the largest pieces rolled in the country -- up to 65 feet long and 110 tons.

The steel contractor fabricates all of the steel on a floor-by-floor basis, typical in groupings of two floors, known as tiers. This is done because a typical steel column will extend across two floors. Once enough steel is fabricated, the steel is shipped to the site by truck, with each truck having a designated crane that will assemble its load of pieces.

Tower 4 has two tower cranes inside the building to erect the steel. We hired DCM Erectors to erect the tower’s steel, which rose above street level in December 2009.

Once the steel arrives to the site, ironworkers attach it to the crane’s hook by steel “choker” cables. Another group of ironworkers grab and guide the steel as it is lowered into place, securing it temporarily with a tapered drift pin shoved through the matching bolt holes of the pieces to be connected. The choker cables are then released and the process starts all over as the ironworkers fasten high-strength steel bolts into the bolt holes.

As there are no floors or walls installed yet to keep the steel from moving, large steel guide cables are secured from the columns to the floor below. These are released over the next week or two as bolts are tightened and welds are made between members. Corrugated metal deck is spread over the steel members and welded down. This deck serves as both formwork and reinforcing steel for the concrete slab to be poured. Once all of the connections are made and all of the deck is installed, the floor is then turned over to our concrete contractor, Roger & Sons, a few floors below the current working erection floor.

Construction of Tower 4 includes programs for the office building, retail, WTC Transportation Hub and Vehicular Security Center (VSC) -- what are some of the challenges you face?

This job poses very different challenges than I’ve faced before because it is a multi-stakeholder project. We not only have to coordinate base building mechanical systems for a massive project such at this, but also to work with the design teams for the hub, retail, and VSC on the four lower floors as well as up through the fourth floor above street level.

It makes it even more challenging when there are unknown elements to those projects that we have to take into consideration. Once their drawings are submitted, we have to facilitate their needs as best we can and have them comply with our schedule. We also have to coordinate, for example, openings and sleeves within the shear walls and slabs for each of the other stakeholders while working within a schedule.

Once we awarded the trades, we continually make them aware of the design documents for each system from each stakeholder. On this job, we had a room on the 10th floor of 7 WTC where we brought in the awarded contractors, starting with the ventilation system because they set the backgrounds first. Once the ductwork is set, the construction drawings are circulated from trade to trade, with each one putting the overlay of their work on them, distinguished by different colors by trade.

To manage the data for building Tower 4, we are using Building Information Modeling (BIM), which makes the process more efficient and easier to track. As the information is logged, we get to see a 3D model of what it will look like, allowing us to better coordinate among all the stakeholders.

What was the process for selecting the glass for Tower 4?

Maki & Associates, the architects for Tower 4, designed the tower façade to achieve a mat metallic quality with a luminous sheen that also changes with the light of day. In selecting the glass for the tower’s curtain wall, we looked for reflectivity and flatness to give a uniform exterior appearance. We also wanted the most transparent glass to accomplish Fumihiko Maki’s intention of “bringing the outside in.”

The curtain wall panels for Tower 4 are among the largest anywhere -- 10 feet wide by 12 feet wide at the podium level, and 5 feet wide by 13 feet high in the office tower. Each panel has three layers of glass with a built-in air pocket. In total, there will be 10,000 glass panels for the office tower and about 1,000 at the podium level.

Last spring, a mockup of the storefront for Tower 4’s office lobby façade was completed at the New Jersey headquarters of metal fabricator MetFab Metals. The mockup stood 50 feet tall by 20 feet wide. It was built-to-scale of the tower’s first three floors, and the entire process, including shop drawings, submission and approval process, and erection, took nine months to complete. It is unusual to build such a large mockup, but it was critical to the success of the project. We were able to examine closely the steel, glass, and mullions to ensure the curtain wall would achieve the visual effect we were aiming for.

FerrariEnzo
Apr 1, 2010, 2:22 AM
Could someone please the floor-count to 64 here???

Come again. ?

djvandrake
Apr 1, 2010, 5:30 AM
Fascinating intervew with Scott Thompson. He has one incredible job! I can't wait to see the glass and I especially enjoyed that part of the interview. Thanks NYGuy for posting it. :cheers:

NYguy
Apr 2, 2010, 5:29 AM
^ I'm ready for that myself...

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SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Apr 6, 2010, 1:24 AM
they rolled in quite a bit of steel today

CalibratedZeus
Apr 6, 2010, 2:31 PM
http://lowermanhattan.info/news/3_questions_for_scott_54299.aspx
Last spring, a mockup of the storefront for Tower 4’s office lobby façade was completed at the New Jersey headquarters of metal fabricator MetFab Metals. The mockup stood 50 feet tall by 20 feet wide. It was built-to-scale of the tower’s first three floors, and the entire process, including shop drawings, submission and approval process, and erection, took nine months to complete. It is unusual to build such a large mockup, but it was critical to the success of the project. We were able to examine closely the steel, glass, and mullions to ensure the curtain wall would achieve the visual effect we were aiming for.

Was there ever a picture of this released or has anyone managed to ever get to their headquarters and snap off a shot of the mock-up?

NYguy
Apr 6, 2010, 2:56 PM
Is this what you were looking for? (second clip)

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More on the final version (lobby) from wtc.com...

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Someone asked earlier if construction here would catch up to the Freedom Tower. Still seems highly unlikely, especially the way things are moving now.

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T-Mac
Apr 6, 2010, 3:16 PM
What a beautiful view of Crane City. Ooops, I mean New York City. :)

SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Apr 6, 2010, 3:59 PM
this tower is finally starting to look like itself

NYguy
Apr 7, 2010, 1:28 AM
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NYguy
Apr 7, 2010, 1:09 PM
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Wheelingman04
Apr 8, 2010, 11:42 AM
:yes: ;) I am in awe.

NYguy
Apr 8, 2010, 4:07 PM
:yes: ;) I am in awe.

You can almost feel the presence of the towers in those last photos, even at just a few stories.


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BStyles
Apr 8, 2010, 8:01 PM
I walked by the site this afternoon. They are starting to weld the escalator frames into place. Not only that, the stairs in front of 1 Liberty and Libety Plaza were packed with people watching the tower!

NYguy
Apr 9, 2010, 5:56 AM
the stairs in front of 1 Liberty and Libety Plaza were packed with people watching the tower!

Yeah, that, along with the wintergarden has become the place to go to view the construction.


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philvia
Apr 10, 2010, 3:18 PM
yesterday i visited the entire wtc, fulton street transit station, and fitterman hall construction sites.

here are pics regarding wtc4

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs519.snc3/27216_384779298910_562298910_3727771_6486043_n.jpg

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members for the escalators and elevators
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http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs499.ash1/27216_384779623910_562298910_3727805_5444220_n.jpg

notice the little people for scale :p
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NYCLuver
Apr 10, 2010, 6:56 PM
April 9th, 2010

(Sorry some are blurry. No tripod. :rolleyes: )

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NYguy
Apr 11, 2010, 1:06 AM
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs519.snc3/27216_384779723910_562298910_3727819_811036_n.jpg

http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs519.snc3/27216_384779728910_562298910_3727820_3295321_n.jpg

The site will finally be enclosed once construction of towers 2 and 3 begins. If not for that, they could have put an entrance down there and added an extra 80 ft to the building's height...:)

Wheelingman04
Apr 11, 2010, 1:14 PM
Wow baby that tower is going up fast!!:tup:

GioFX
Apr 11, 2010, 11:23 PM
What's the use of those underground floors, a car park?

Also, is there a plan for a new underground mall? That would be nice!

NYguy
Apr 12, 2010, 1:49 AM
Also, is there a plan for a new underground mall? That would be nice!

That's exactly what that is, at least half of it. In fact, most of the retail will be in the underground mall,
which will be the lower levels of the towers.

From wtc.com

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123522253/large.jpg


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BStyles
Apr 12, 2010, 12:20 PM
Yeah, they're pretty much reviving the Mall at the World Trade Center. It's predecessor was on a much larger footprint than the one they're constructing now, so this mall will be double-leveled to make up for it.

Retail extending all the way from the Fulton Street Transit Center, through the Dey Street Underpass, Through the Transit Hub, through the mall itself, then through the East-West Connector inside 1WTC's base, and then all around in the World Financial Center. It's going to be the largest shopping district in Lower Manhattan!

NYguy
Apr 12, 2010, 1:08 PM
A friendly rivalry with that "other", taller construction project and a prediction...(from wtc.com)

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nycdagreatest
Apr 12, 2010, 5:55 PM
I wish tower's 2 and 3 were looking down on tower 4 right now instead tower 4 is going to be looking down on tower's 2 and 3 for a while:(

GioFX
Apr 12, 2010, 10:51 PM
Very interesting... the site is gonna be a concrete and steel jungle for the next few years!

NYguy
Apr 13, 2010, 2:06 AM
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NYguy
Apr 14, 2010, 2:52 PM
Building in the heart of the city. Love it.

Danny L. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dannyl/4519321897/sizes/l/in/pool-18964236@N00/)

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NYguy
Apr 15, 2010, 12:52 AM
Descendant of Aaron (http://www.flickr.com/photos/shabadoo/4521263197/sizes/l/)

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NYguy
Apr 16, 2010, 7:33 AM
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Fabb
Apr 17, 2010, 7:23 AM
I don't know if it's been answered before, but is there a possibility that 150 Greenwich may catch up with the freedom tower, therefore becoming temporarily the tallest building in the area ?

BStyles
Apr 17, 2010, 12:29 PM
There's more steel in place ofer at One World Trade Center. Tower 4 may top out faster, but it will not be taller.

Speaking of which, I went down to the site yesterday and got s few pics.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/CIMG0058.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/CIMG0060.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/CIMG0061.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/CIMG0062.jpg
When I crossed the south bridge, I saw the new entrance for the first time. Few bonus pics:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/CIMG0063.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk157/BOJAMforeva/CIMG0064.jpg

NYguy
Apr 17, 2010, 2:19 PM
^ Nice.

I don't know if it's been answered before, but is there a possibility that 150 Greenwich may catch up with the freedom tower, therefore becoming temporarily the tallest building in the area ?

If you watch the clip above, there's talk of temporarily "looking down" on the Freedom Tower. I'd have to see it to believe it.

Dac150
Apr 17, 2010, 3:22 PM
That’s a temporary bridge I take it?

NYCLuver
Apr 19, 2010, 11:55 PM
April 19th, 2010

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Bonus WTC 7

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4535863559_9126b8e148_b.jpg

NYguy
Apr 20, 2010, 1:09 AM
I'd say we're getting close to a hundred feet, if not already...

NYguy
Apr 20, 2010, 2:40 PM
http://lowermanhattan.info/news/wtc_towers_rise_as_49276.aspx

WTC Towers Rise as PA and Silverstein Negotiate

April 15, 2010

One World Trade Center (WTC) is now rising above the 24th level, with concrete being poured daily to set each expansive floorplate. Across the site, 4 WTC steel columns are up to floor six, while the 80-foot-tall entrance lobby has taken shape along Church Street. These are the two skyscrapers, along with the eight-acre Memorial quadrant, that showcase the tremendous progress that’s been made at the WTC over the past year.

The two organizations building these mega structures sat side by side on April 12th to present updates to Community Board 1. Christopher Ward, executive director of the Port Authority, spoke first, stating that 1 WTC construction is gaining momentum.

Janno Lieber, Silverstein Properties’s (SPI) president of WTC development, shared his company’s updates with the board as well, stating, “We are going full steam ahead on Tower 4, and we are a lot further along than what is really understood.” He noted that nearly 600,000 square feet of substructure is already complete, eventually housing building mechanicals as well as several retail floors.

“We are on the cusp of creating the greatest mixed-use urban model that may exist in the United States,” said Lieber. “It is a one-of-a-kind community where first-class, green, high-tech office space lives alongside a great residential community, and they really feed each other. This is what we wanted to create. Obviously there were an enormous number of constraints, and that is what it took a long time to work through. But we think we’ve achieved the critical mass necessary to realize that vision.”

NYguy
Apr 22, 2010, 12:48 PM
Slowly making an impression. We can clearly see where the new dominant towers of lower Manhattan will stand...

Samantha Kwok (http://www.flickr.com/photos/samantha_kwok878/4541650293/sizes/o/)

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chex
Apr 22, 2010, 4:13 PM
great pic!
from this distance or angle, looks like a small footprint for such a tall tower like 1wtc

hunser
Apr 22, 2010, 4:18 PM
great pic!
from this distance or angle, looks like a small footprint for such a tall tower like 1wtc

look at GS, what a monster - but a good one. and beekman is currently the king of lower manhattan. :)

BostonBuild
Apr 22, 2010, 5:13 PM
From my visit 4-17-10

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/tomhinch/WTC/DSCN0057.jpg

BStyles
Apr 22, 2010, 7:56 PM
I have looked through the renderings, and it looks like the next level will be the end of the retail podium. Those two yellow beams are supposed to be for the elevator shaft(just like in any underground mall:P ). Steel is already up to the mechanical grates, but those could also be offices, i'm not sure.

NYguy
Apr 23, 2010, 1:59 PM
At look at the way the retail works, with 2 levels underground connecting the tower to the entire site...

lower levels

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123875677/original.jpg


upper levels

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123875669/large.jpg

NYguy
Apr 23, 2010, 2:26 PM
Another view of the footprint, you can see how large it is...(from wtc.com)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123876039/original.jpg

NYCLuver
Apr 23, 2010, 11:12 PM
April 23rd, 2010

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/4546313591_35c2a2a1dd_b.jpg

NYguy
Apr 24, 2010, 1:28 PM
This tower is becoming a center of attention itself...

APRIL 23, 2010

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885451/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885467/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885492/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885505/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885515/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885520/large.jpg

7.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885524/large.jpg

8. Arrogant Beekman looking down - for now...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885546/large.jpg

9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885581/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885587/large.jpg

11.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885592/large.jpg

12.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885596/large.jpg

13.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885597/large.jpg

14. "Attention, puny New Yorkers! I am your new World Trade Center. Worship and bow down before me..."

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885599/large.jpg

15.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885601/large.jpg

16.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885607/large.jpg

17.
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18.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885650/large.jpg

19.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/123885683/large.jpg

A quick video overlook...

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meh_cd
Apr 24, 2010, 2:21 PM
Thanks for those retail plans, NYguy.

NYC4Life
Apr 24, 2010, 4:21 PM
Really big footprint, almost swallows space for the other 2 planned towers.

BStyles
Apr 24, 2010, 10:53 PM
That is really big retail space....and is that a concourse I see? It's the Kings Plaza of Lower Manhattan!

I can't wait to walk through that mall when it's finished!

NYguy
Apr 26, 2010, 3:43 PM
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colemonkee
Apr 26, 2010, 5:39 PM
beau-dog knows how to use the Shadow/Highlight feature in Photoshop. ;)

OneWorldTradeCenter
Apr 27, 2010, 1:34 PM
Construction update from wtc.com (http://www.wtc.com/news/wtc-construction-update-april-2010) :

Tower 4

Steel frame work for the lobby is 100% complete

Concrete pour for the second deck in April 2010

Completion of core steel to the 5th floor in April 2010

NYguy
Apr 29, 2010, 2:16 AM
janice.simms2007 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/15599206@N07/4562045094/sizes/l/in/set-72157623828831301/)

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StijnD (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spikey/4560779301/sizes/o/)

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NYguy
Apr 30, 2010, 4:33 AM
morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4560669610/sizes/l/)

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RoldanTTLB
Apr 30, 2010, 5:23 PM
They poured the floorplates for the first few stories yesterday/today. Hopefully we can get a good photo from across the street sometime soon.

uaarkson
Apr 30, 2010, 6:10 PM
Hah, yeah I just noticed that on earthcam.

CHAPINM1
Apr 30, 2010, 6:18 PM
I don't know about you guys but I am honostly about as excited to see this building go up as I am 1WTC. Until further notice it will be the 2nd tallest building in lower Manhatten and even by itself would dominate lower Manhatten if it were built first and not with 1WTC or later.

Onn
Apr 30, 2010, 7:21 PM
Agreed, although not so much for the height. I actually like the tower itself architecturally. 4WTC is simple but powerful, much the Original Twin Towers were. I think the glass is going to be insane too. I'm really excited for it, I think it's going to be very unique. :)

NYguy
Apr 30, 2010, 10:54 PM
Don't worry about this one, it will impose itself over Church Street, a little closer to the masses who shop below it and almost as dominant as the Freedom Tower. It has a few years before tower 3 catches up and surpasses it in height.

APRIL 30, 2010

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088165/large.jpg

2. A long way to go, but it will surpass these towers in the background...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088221/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088230/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088304/large.jpg

5.
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6.
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7.
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8.
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9.
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10.
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11.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088693/large.jpg


12. One thing you will note about the construction of the new WTC, the city goes on around it. Not exactly building in the desert or swampland here...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088723/large.jpg

13.
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14.
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19.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088855/large.jpg

20.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088903/large.jpg


A few clips to go with the pics...

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Onn
Apr 30, 2010, 11:25 PM
Great pics NYguy! It's really going to look massive once they get a few floors down. You could almost land a plane on this building.

banned
May 1, 2010, 3:33 AM
Is Cortland (spelling?) station open on the R line? It was closed for years -- I think it was open after 9/11 but had to close it shortly thereafter due to construction nearby.

NYC4Life
May 1, 2010, 6:08 AM
Is Cortland (spelling?) station open on the R line? It was closed for years -- I think it was open after 9/11 but had to close it shortly thereafter due to construction nearby.

Yes, it is open, but only the northbound platform. The rest of the station is scheduled to reopen on Sept. 11 2011. On another note, Courtlandt Street on the 1 line was the station beneath the WTC that was destroyed on 9/11. There are plans to reconstruct the station in the future once the site is built although its name may change.

NYguy
May 6, 2010, 2:34 AM
morrongiello (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrongiello/4581475223/sizes/l/) (May 5)

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SkyscrapersOfNewYork
May 7, 2010, 3:41 AM
took these today

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PhilippeMtl
May 7, 2010, 6:07 AM
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088855/large.jpg

Cute girl and nice t-shirt

Ferocrete
May 7, 2010, 4:26 PM
I see that the 4 columns on each side of the tower are encased in concrete. Will they continue in this manner to the top of the tower, or will they just do this to the lower floors as some sort of blast protection? I've never seen it done before.

winlinmac001
May 7, 2010, 6:20 PM
Looks like a foreigner, lol
Right behind her is an advertisement for 1-800 ENGLISH
porfavor

The new WTC site is attracting more than people than ever since 9/11. This is good news considering that Downtown has looked like a ghost town since that day.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/124088855/large.jpg

Cute girl and nice t-shirt

Innsertnamehere
May 7, 2010, 7:10 PM
:previous: ya, i love how its says learn english in english! (i know, :offtopic: )

NYguy
May 7, 2010, 8:22 PM
This is good news considering that Downtown has looked like a ghost town since that day.

It's been years already since the area around the WTC (formerly ground zero) has looked like a ghost town. The streets have been pretty packed, especially considering that the office towers and retail have yet to surface with their own populations. It's not where it was pre 9/11, but its nowhere near the doom and gloom that was predicted immediately after, even with the bad economy.

uakoops
May 9, 2010, 6:07 AM
Yes, it is open, but only the northbound platform. The rest of the station is scheduled to reopen on Sept. 11 2011. On another note, Courtlandt Street on the 1 line was the station beneath the WTC that was destroyed on 9/11. There are plans to reconstruct the station in the future once the site is built although its name may change.

The station actually occupies the northern half of the #1 box where it goes through the WTC site. You can see where the box is wider there. The platforms are already built, they just have to build the mezzanine and all the stuff that goes around it.

NYguy
May 9, 2010, 2:15 PM
The station actually occupies the northern half of the #1 box where it goes through the WTC site. You can see where the box is wider there. The platforms are already built, they just have to build the mezzanine and all the stuff that goes around it.

Right. While the station may not be open, they were actually the first to get their ship in order, allowing express trains to resume normal service on the 2 and 3 lines. That was followed by the reopening of the PATH terminal, and even though street access to and from the PATH trains had to "cross" the IRT station, the MTA didn't think the timing was right to open the station, so for now the trains just pass through. There is other subway service around the site, so I guess we can't get too upset about that.

bam63
May 9, 2010, 4:58 PM
Looks like a foreigner, lol
Right behind her is an advertisement for 1-800 ENGLISH
porfavor

The new WTC site is attracting more than people than ever since 9/11. This is good news considering that Downtown has looked like a ghost town since that day.

I have the same shirt,its from the Rolling Stones 2005 tour.Oh and i think she's HOTTTT!!!!

kznyc2k
May 10, 2010, 11:18 PM
2010.05.06

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/4592265213_fc983f7a47_b.jpg

nycdagreatest
May 11, 2010, 1:09 AM
Why is it that their is not one render of 4wtc anywhere around the area for people to see,but you see plenty of renders of 1wtc, the memorial and the transportation hub?:shrug: