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fflint
04-30-2007, 02:49 AM
Free transit offered to lure commuters away from destroyed highways

Marisa Lagos, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, April 29, 2007

(04-29) 18:03 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- Rides on all Bay Area transit lines - including BART, AC Transit and the region's ferries -- will be free Monday, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said today, following the collapse of part of the MacArthur Maze.

Officials are scrambling to figure out ways to ease the impact on the region's roads after the accident, which occurred when a tanker truck carrying gasoline exploded around 3:45 a.m. and collapsed the connector to Interstate 580 from the Bay Bridge. The highway crashed down and landed onto the roadway that connects I-80 to I-880 and downtown Oakland, decimating two major interchanges in one of the Bay Area's busiest corridors.

Some of the region's largest transit agencies said today that they would also enhance service on Monday in hopes of giving drivers alternative ways to work.

BART announced that it would run longer trains all day Monday, which are expected to increase capacity by about 50 percent on the regional system. There will be no additional parking at BART stations, a spokesman said, but the agency will add several trains during the morning and evening commutes.

The Alameda/Oakland Ferry will also add a boat to double its service from the East Bay to downtown San Francisco. Spokesman Ernest Sanchez said the agency will double its capacity and speed up service by having one boat running directly from Jack London Square in Oakland to the Ferry Building in downtown San Francisco, and another going from Alameda to San Francisco.

Normally, one boat goes from Oakland to Alameda, then to San Francisco. Sanchez said the schedule will remain the same.

AC Transit also plans to add extra buses that will go from San Francisco to the East Bay during the evening commute hours, a spokesman said.

Municipal Transportation Agency chief Nathaniel Ford said Muni would add service to connect Muni to other agencies if needed.

Most other transit agencies said they did not immediately plan to increase service but would work together this week to adjust to whatever needs arise.

Any future decisions will depend upon how commuters react to the changes, officials said.

"We need to see what happens," said John Goodwin, a spokesman for the regional Metropolitan Transportation Commission. "As a consequence of the ripple effect through much of the region, this will be an enormous challenge for the transportation system."

Caltrans has already hired a demolition contractor to raze the section of damaged roadway, and has engineers working on the design aspect. Officials expect any fix to take weeks, but Caltrans director Will Kempton refused to estimate exactly how long at a news conference today.

People headed to Warriors and A's games were told to expect delays, but several tailgaters said this afternoon that their drive to Oakland was a breeze.

Mark Schilling, a certified public account from San Francisco, said it normally takes him 45 minutes to get from his home to the Oakland ballpark. Today, he and his 5-year-old daughter arrived in only 15 minutes.

"It was unbelievable, the first time there's been no traffic -- ever. I've never seen the bridge so empty," he said.

Ed and Mary Lane of Pinole agreed. The couple has been tailgating for 20 years and went out of their way to avoid the maze, detouring through Orinda on Highway 24 then back to I-880.

The detour took them an extra 30 minutes, they said, but the roads were pretty empty.

"I think a lot of people heard the talk about the freeway collapse and were scared off," Ed Lane said.

Detour signs have been placed along West Grand Avenue, one of the Oakland city streets being used to reroute drivers around the disaster.

Jim Allison, a spokesman for BART, said the agency is asking riders who can tweak their work schedule do so.

"Ride early or late, avoid the peak of rush hour," he said. "Many people may choose not to go to work or to drive in at 3 a.m. The good thing is that our system can count down to each and every person who rides day to day (and we can adjust service from there)."

Getting to BART may be half the battle, Allison said. Officials expect parking to be in high demand and are urging East Bay riders to use public transit, or get dropped off.

AC Transit has already rerouted buses heading over the Bay Bridge, said spokesman Clarence Johnson. The vehicles will exit on 12th Street in Oakland and run along Market Street, using the West Grand Avenue approach to the bridge, according to Johnson.

Allison said that BART riders who live in areas such as Fremont or Hayward could also drive across the San Mateo Bridge or Dunbarton Bridge to access Peninsula BART stations with free parking. Those stations include Millbrae, South San Francisco and San Bruno.

Officials at the Golden Gate Bridge District, the agency that oversees the bridge as well as Golden Gate Ferry service, said North Bay commuters who need to get to the East Bay can take ferries into San Francisco, then connect to BART there.

Spokeswoman Mary Currie said officials at the agency are waiting to see how commuters react before making any major changes on the bridge or to ferry service.

"We expect to see heavier traffic in the afternoon (on Monday)," she said. "The bottom line is we have six lanes (on the bridge) and we can adjust those if we need to."

Normally, there are three northbound and three southbound lanes during the afternoon commute, she said, but the agency could route four in the northbound direction if they determine there is a large increase in drivers leaving the city.

Currie encouraged people to use the agency's Sausalito ferry. The Larkspur ferry is already near capacity on most weekdays. There also is little available parking at the Larkspur station -- it normally fills up by around 10 a.m. -- but commuters can carpool to the Sausalito location and pay to park there, Currie said.

The agency runs more than 40 ferries a day from the North Bay to San Francisco and back.

The district is considering the possibility of adding ferry service or looking to expand parking at some facilities in the future, but will not make any changes on Monday, she said.

Caltrain and SamTrans have no plans at this time to adjust their schedules, a spokesman said. Officials for Vallejo Baylink Ferry could not immediately be reached for comment.

BART will reassess its plan after Monday's commutes, Allison said.

"I think we're primarily interested in getting a plan in place for tomorrow, then we will be talking to other transit agencies, particularly in terms of the long term. If this is something that's going to be weeks, we will see what we can do to create more parking, for instance."

There are no plans to extend BART hours, he said.

Sanchez, the spokesman for the Alameda Oakland Ferry, said the agency will also be monitoring the situation and will adjust as needed.

"Based on past experience, and that bridge is still open, we are not really expecting too much (impact)," he said. "We have free parking at both East Bay locations, so we should be OK there, but we will see what happens, and if need more we have more."

Johnson said AC Transit, like most of the region's transit agencies, doesn't have a large stock of extra buses or extra personnel that can be mobilized in emergencies.

"We'll have to figure out what we can do with our existing personnel," he said. "It's not an easy thing for us to do, but we'll do whatever we can. We have past emergencies to draw from that we can go back and see what worked and what didn't."

But Johnson and Allison said AC Transit, BART and other transit agencies are already discussing ways to coordinate their activities and work together as they did after the 1989 collapse of the Cypress Freeway structure following the Loma Prieta earthquake.

"Transportation, period, is so fragile," Johnson said. "If one network goes down, it's tough for other agencies to pick up that burden. Even for a collaboration of agencies it's hard for all the agencies to figure out a plan."

Carpooling will help ease the burden for all travelers, Goodwin said.

"It's incumbent on all of us to get more capacity with fewer vehicles, because the capacity to move vehicles has been slashed," he said.

Local cities were also scrambling to asses the potential impact on their city streets and services.

Caltrans officials are working with Oakland city officials to devise a plan for rerouting traffic, said spokesman Bob Haus.

"We want to make sure everyone's on board before we do anything," he said.

Across the Bay, San Francisco officials are also pondering how to deal with the impact on city streets.

"It looks like it's going to be a situation that will take a couple months to remedy,'' said Nate Ballard, spokesman for Mayor Gavin Newsom.

City officials are expecting increased traffic congestion on San Francisco roads leading to the Bay Bridge. One option they're looking at is increasing casual carpool pick-up points in downtown San Francisco, such as was done in the aftermath of the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989.

Police Chief Heather Fong said the department will work with Muni to support the expansion of casual carpools. Ford, the MTA chief, said Department of Parking and Traffic officers would be also working with police Monday to ensure traffic is moving on and off the Bay Bridge in the city.

"I think tomorrow's really the acid test," said Goodwin. "At that point we'll see where there are holes that need to be plugged and get a better sense on how to plug them."

Reminiscence
04-30-2007, 05:00 AM
Did this really need its own thread?

I though we had it covered in the other thread.

EastBayHardCore
04-30-2007, 06:31 AM
Yes.

BART is going to be hellacious tomorrow. Spare the Air '06 Redux. I'm predicting a clusterfuck that is typical for these free transit days. You're going to have the transit clueless exurbanites (STAND TO THE RIGHT, MFers), bums seeking A/C and a place to nap, and the roaming groups of adolescent thugs joyriding and aimlessly pushing through packed rushhour trains. Ahh what a wonderful thing free transit is.

pdxstreetcar
04-30-2007, 06:45 AM
wouldnt it have been better to use that state money to run additional trains/buses as opposed to free rides? its the volume of people that will be the problem, a $5 fare is probably the least of a commuter's problems.

BTinSF
04-30-2007, 06:52 AM
How about Muni? I was going to buy a May Fast Pass tomorrow--but I'm tired of paying when I could be riding free (like everybody else on the bus). It happened too much when we were sparing the air.

fflint
04-30-2007, 09:08 AM
^That will show the State of California not to reimburse public transit agencies for providing free transit during transportation crises, BT! Your heart is in the right place--law 'n' order! Well, law at least. Order should only be for those who pay extra...

sf_eddo
04-30-2007, 10:50 AM
Yes.

BART is going to be hellacious tomorrow. Spare the Air '06 Redux. I'm predicting a clusterfuck that is typical for these free transit days. You're going to have the transit clueless exurbanites (STAND TO THE RIGHT, MFers), bums seeking A/C and a place to nap, and the roaming groups of adolescent thugs joyriding and aimlessly pushing through packed rushhour trains. Ahh what a wonderful thing free transit is.

This response bothers me a little and I think it smacks of elitism and also of the "bad city issue of the moment" that is so evident in SF Chronicle opinion pieces. We bemoan the cost and frequency and efficiency of public transit, and when they try to increase public transit use (or in this case, respond to a regional transportation crisis), we whine about the *quality* of the *users* who take advantage of the free transportation.

I say, if it gets a car off the road, fine. If it makes people go other places they wouldn't go otherwise, well, that's that. It's public transit. That's what it's supposed to do. Just because you don't like the "public" who uses it (because we all know exactly which people those who complain are complaining about) doesn't make it meaningful for the thousands of riders who appreciate the break from paying for transportation.

Reminiscence
04-30-2007, 11:37 AM
I dont know, it seems to me that most people has the mentality that this free transit situation is going to last for a while. We should probably wait until tonight for them to make an announcement about what they plan to do from now on before we start to complain heavily. I think we are capable of enduring with this for a day at least.

BTinSF
04-30-2007, 04:20 PM
^That will show the State of California not to reimburse public transit agencies for providing free transit during transportation crises, BT! Your heart is in the right place--law 'n' order! Well, law at least. Order should only be for those who pay extra...

I'm not going to try to justify what is admittedly a fairly selfish attitude, but I do think the transit agencies should recognize when they offer free service that riders who would ride anyway and pay to do so are going to start feeling foolish and stop paying.

Anyway, to give is better than to receive and I enjoy giving you openings to slam me since you seem to enjoy it so.

But consider that the transit experience IS, in part, about how pleasant or unpleasant it is and even more overcrowded busses full of joy-riders (as we had on spare the air days) do make for a disincentive for a lot pf people to ride transit. In this situation, I see no reason to subsidize people to do what is in their own self-interest: staying out of a traffic nightmare. As someone else said, the state should use its money to make transit better for those willing to pay, not free to lure the determined drivers out of gridlock.

BTinSF
04-30-2007, 04:27 PM
I say, if it gets a car off the road, fine. If it makes people go other places they wouldn't go otherwise, well, that's that. It's public transit. That's what it's supposed to do.

Take this to its logical extreme and you have something like I posted (in "Transportation") about the commuter railroad in Mumbai--so overcrowded and underfunded as to be lethal. But those trains carry millions and only an few are crushed every day.

rs913
04-30-2007, 06:05 PM
I can see BT's argument to some extent.

To look at it another way, there are lots of people who insist on driving (alone) even though transit is as good an option for them. It's socially sub-optimal for these people to keep driving.

There are three ways to correct this:
1) Make transit better.
2) Make transit free (at least temporarily)
3) Have something like the freeway collapse happen, making the driving option worse.

The problem with #2 is that it actually makes transit a little worse on that day, to the point people won't continue riding it once it's not free. #3 may be the best way to accomplish the above - if you don't throw in #2 as well.

Richard Mlynarik
04-30-2007, 07:34 PM
I'm not going to try to justify what is admittedly a fairly selfish attitude, but I do think the transit agencies should recognize when they offer free service that riders who would ride anyway and pay to do so are going to start feeling foolish and stop paying.
It isn't the transit agencies pulling this stunt (or the worse than useless "Spare the Air" free transit, or the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS given away in 100% unnecessary and counter-productice in FasTrak(tm)(sm)(c)(r) toll giveaways) -- it's the completely anti-transit (Caldecott Tunnel and BART to San Jose) Metropolitan Transportation Commission.

This is all hard cash that could have gone to something useful, but instead disappears without a trace. The opportunity costs are immense, and heartbreaking.

Overall, there's nothing positive that can come of this.
Which is just the way we like things around here.

"Gee, I was thinking about spending two hours driving on surface streets in Oakland in order to get from Fruitvale to San Francisco. But since BART and Muni are free, and since saving $6.20 in fares means a whole lot more than four hours of driving, I think I'll try transit just this once!"

fflint
04-30-2007, 07:39 PM
Let's be clear about something: today's situation isn't the same thing as a "spare the air" day. Each has a utilitarian purpose, of course, and is authorized by the government--but today's situtation is prompted by a pressing need that cannot be ignored by responsible, reasonable state and local officials.

Today's free rides aren't intended to lure choice riders out of their luxury cars with a "pleasant" free ride in the Tube, but rather, to avert disorderly gridlock that would impede the flow of goods and workers and thus harm the local economy.

Whether or not free transit will help save us from that sort of nightmare is not clear. It may not work; it may turn out to have been unnecessary. But in any case, this decision by local and state officials has my full support. This is what government is for--coordination of resources, in response to disaster, on a scale we ordinary citizens cannot manage on our own.

rs913
04-30-2007, 08:07 PM
but rather, to avert disorderly gridlock that would impede the flow of goods and workers and thus harm the local economy.

fflint, I'd agree with what you said 100% if we knew the ramp would be fixed tomorrow...who cares if the trains are crowded, just suck it up and deal.

But since we're looking at the ramps being down for several months, I think their decisions have to cater to those "choice riders in their luxury cars". It bugs me that BART et al have to kiss these people's asses, but what can you do? To keep the situation manageable over the next several months, you need to get as many of these people as possible to change their minds and use transit. The situation with the bridge should accomplish that by itself to some extent. How much does a "free transit day" help on top of that? Hard to say. It could get more people trying transit today, but it also might turn transit into a mess today, making them say, "Yeah, I knew I avoided transit my whole life for a reason. I'm sticking to my car from here on out no matter how bad things are on the bridge."

Also, most of the people who need to get from point A to point B would have just paid the fare if transit weren't free today, right? I'm not sure if "free transit" is rescuing people who'd be stranded otherwise.

This is what government is for--coordination of resources, in response to disaster, on a scale we ordinary citizens cannot manage on our own.

Well said, and the local agencies have done quite a few things right so far (esp the quick start on the reconstruction and the addition of transit capacity). I just don't know if "free transit" is one of them.

Richard Mlynarik
04-30-2007, 08:10 PM
Let's be clear about something: today's situation isn't the same thing as a "spare the air" day. Each has a utilitarian purpose, of course, and is authorized by the government--but today's situtation is prompted by a pressing need that cannot be ignored by responsible, reasonable state and local officials.
What on earth are you talking about?

The only possible gridlock that is being alleviated by this nonsense is queues at BART ticket vending machines, which are hardly the most pressing pressing issue I can imagine. Perhaps not taking fares will make AC Transbay buses board 3 minutes faster over the entire trip ... which is then lost many times over in increased and non-mitigated auto congestion.

How free Muni or Caltrain or VTA rides are supposed to accomplish anything is beyond me.

This is simply a stunt that makes it sound as if something is being done. It obviously worked for you.
(Of course, real things are being done -- Caltrans employs many very competent engineers, and we know that the repair project -- unlike non-highway tranportation under CDoT's purview -- will be undertaken with great speed and great skill.)

Anyway, I'm off to take a free ferry ride now for no purpose whatsoever other than my own enjoyment, and riding Muni free to get to downtown to the ferry terminal. What a great use of public money. Thanks, everybody.

Ahoy!

BTinSF
04-30-2007, 09:36 PM
Let's be clear about something: today's situation isn't the same thing as a "spare the air" day. Each has a utilitarian purpose, of course, and is authorized by the government--but today's situtation is prompted by a pressing need that cannot be ignored by responsible, reasonable state and local officials.

I agree with that.

Today's free rides aren't intended to lure choice riders out of their luxury cars with a "pleasant" free ride in the Tube, but rather, to avert disorderly gridlock that would impede the flow of goods and workers and thus harm the local economy.

Whether or not free transit will help save us from that sort of nightmare is not clear. It may not work; it may turn out to have been unnecessary. But in any case, this decision by local and state officials has my full support. This is what government is for--coordination of resources, in response to disaster, on a scale we ordinary citizens cannot manage on our own.

I think it would be smarter to "avert . . . gridlock" by making transit better rather than making it cheaper. The state and others can spend their dollars either way. They could run BART 24 hours. They could put more trains on the tracks. They could pay for driver overtime or whatever it takes to increase service. Or they can do the politically popular thing--give out freebies. I can tell you, having just come from Powell & Market where the tourists, who couldn't even guess where the MacArthur Maze is, are enjoying riding the cable cars for free. Do cable cars help out the East Bay commute?

fflint
04-30-2007, 10:21 PM
What on Earth am I talking about? The same thing everyone else in the Bay Area is talking about: the closures, and free transit. If this is a "stunt" then I'm all for it.

This is a lead story on the news: it is the carrot, and in conjunction with the stick (the closures), so far it kept the first workday morning rush without an 80-880S and 80-580E connection moving smoothly, considering. Today was the day we didn't know if motorists would get the news, or know the detours, or if those detours would work, or if motorists would give public transportation alternatives the consideration due. Today was the day we needed layers of solutions. Free transit gets BART and AC Transit on the motorists' radar, and Channel 2 reported anecdotal evidence of increased ridership on BART. That is a good thing.

Reminiscence
04-30-2007, 11:36 PM
I think I'm in the middle of this debate. On the one hand, I think it was somewhat nessesary for BART, MUNI, and the other various transportation networks to increase capacity and perhaps offer a lower fare. However, I'm not at all convinced that the "Free BART" was all that great of an idea. I see what Richard is saying when people take advantage of free rides, even though they dont really have to go anywhere. And naturally, when BART is free, you almost always will see an increase in ridership, which is not nessesarily a good thing.

CalTrans should make it aware to drivers far in advance on highways and roads where the bypasses will be at and all the alternate routes available so as to avoid confusing drivers and causing backups from last minute lane changes. After all, its not like there is absolutely no way to get from one side to the other. All we need is clear signs telling drivers how to get from Oakland to SF, and vice-versa. In the future, I believe cutting fares in half perhaps, would be a better alternative during such times.

fflint
05-01-2007, 11:29 PM
THE MAZE MELTDOWN: SEEKING SOLUTIONS
MASS TRANSIT: Traveling on buses, trains, ferries 'pretty nice'

Rachel Gordon, Chronicle Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 1, 2007

Regional transit officials hope the temporary problems at the MacArthur Maze cause long-term shifts in the number of drivers who give up their cars and commute on public buses, trains and ferries.

That happened after the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, which damaged freeways in the East Bay and San Francisco and destroyed a section of the Bay Bridge. Although some people returned to their cars once the roadways were repaired, transit ridership remained higher than it had been before the quake.

"This is another opportunity to show people that public transportation can work," said Rod Diridon, executive director of the Mineta Transportation Institute in San Jose.

He said the confluence of rising gasoline prices, a growing awareness that auto pollution contributes to global warming, and worsening traffic congestion on the state's highways makes a potent argument for public transit. Sunday's freeway collapse may be just the nudge to push more commuters out of their cars, he said.

"Opportunity" was a word used by transit officials throughout the Bay Area on Monday.

BART, Muni, AC Transit and other agencies that have tried to build ridership and bolster fare-box revenue said the freeway closures inevitably will force some people out of their cars. However, the big question is: For how long?

Experts say that to get motorists onto public transit, they must be convinced that a bus, train or ferry is cheaper, more reliable and more convenient.

Roughly 11 percent of Bay Area commuters take transit to work, according to the Association of Bay Area Governments.

About 80,000 drivers a day pass through the connectors to Interstates 580 and 880 that were damaged by Sunday's fire.

"This is a good opportunity for people to migrate to transit, though the number of people who make the switch is probably going to depend on the duration of the freeway closures, and whether there is a time advantage for transit versus crowded freeways," said John Goodwin, spokesman for the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, a regional planning agency.

"We'll probably have a clearer picture of the commute patterns in the next few days," said Nathaniel Ford, executive director of the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency.

Ford, who expects demand to go up in the coming days, said the big challenge will be to provide a service that will keep people coming back.

"What we hope to do is provide an experience that is good enough to retain people," said Ford, who is trying to reverse the trend of declining ridership on Muni.

He said that while Muni is committed to providing extra trains and buses in the short term, sustaining the increased capacity will not be easy. The system already is being tested with the recent addition of a new streetcar line that has delayed service throughout the rail operation.

BART spokesman Jim Allison said more transit commutes that went as smoothly as Monday's could make people think twice about jumping back into their cars.

One of those people is Jim Kelly, a 40-year-old financial analyst who boarded a BART train in Oakland on Monday morning for a ride into San Francisco.

"I thought I'd give it a try," said Kelly, who usually drives to his job near San Francisco City Hall and takes advantage of the free parking provided by his employer.

His assessment of his BART ride: "Pretty nice." He got to read the newspaper. Still, he's not sure if he wants to give up the convenience -- and solitude -- of driving.

"Even if I'm sitting in traffic, it's just about the only alone time I get during the day. And I can run errands after work. But this," he said, staring out the window of the BART train, "isn't that bad."

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