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sowat
Jun 26, 2009, 7:22 PM
13th floor was just poured. concrete polishing/smoothing machines are at it right now

see Cronked's cam:
http://71.193.207.57:8080/

lower 3rd floor tower glass is being installed. I'll take some pics as they progress.

Artist
Jun 29, 2009, 5:52 PM
Mirabella posted an update. http://www.mirabellaretirement.org/portland/2009/062509.htm

sowat
Jun 29, 2009, 10:23 PM
Le Hana Japanese Grill & Cafe has posted a banner out front advertising "50% off dinners, every day, for a limited time"; so it's a great time to come check out Le Hana & Mirabella progress first hand, if you haven't yet.

http://www.lehana.com/lehana/index.php
(maybe call them first if you want more details)

ad hoc
Jun 30, 2009, 6:40 PM
is this project being built to the maximum height or is it intentionally being built shorter than what could be allowed on that site?

cronked
Jun 30, 2009, 7:41 PM
New address for the Mirabella Cam: http://98.246.156.74:8080/

My IP has been the same for two years and now that I am using it for the cam, it changes. Go figure.

PacificNW
Jun 30, 2009, 8:43 PM
I think it is intentionally a low-rise...

cronked
Jun 30, 2009, 10:19 PM
We go to Le Hana all the time. We love it there. They also have a great late night happy hour.

If you don't know what to get off their dinner menu, I would recommend the Le Hana Bento. It comes with a little bit of everything. Their sweet potato fries are also delicious!

Artist
Jun 30, 2009, 10:57 PM
Thanks, Cronked. We've enjoyed watching how things are done. While the photo images (with comments) are much clearer, and therefore appreciated, the web cam is very informative in its own right.

sowat
Jul 1, 2009, 5:37 AM
I noticed plenty of heavy machinery and activity on the Schnitzer/OHSU land north of Ross Island Bridge today, and piles and piles of gravel, but I'm not sure if it means site/roads/bridge infrastructure work has started??

dkealoha
Jul 1, 2009, 5:46 AM
I noticed plenty of heavy machinery and activity on the Schnitzer/OHSU land north of Ross Island Bridge today, and piles and piles of gravel, but I'm not sure if it means site/roads/bridge infrastructure work has started??

They have been moving dirt around for about a month now and I've been wondering what is happening there too.

sowat
Jul 1, 2009, 3:07 PM
July 1.09

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/803/towermwu.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2954/towerdetail.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/803/balconydetail.jpg

after ripping out and re-filling the 4th floor gap between buildings, now they are ripping out the concrete in the 3rd floor gap:
(seen lower left below where the workman and two fans are)
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/677/joint.jpg

PacificNW
Jul 1, 2009, 5:33 PM
It is rising at a pretty good clip.. Thanks for the uodate and pics!

sowat
Jul 1, 2009, 6:07 PM
a month... guess I don't go that way very much.

from today's SWF Community Relations email:

South Waterfront Updates:
South Waterfront District Street Plan
During June, the Portland Department of Transportation held an open house to present to the South Waterfront neighborhood the updated South Waterfront District Street Plan, Criteria and Standards. Now that development plans for the Portland-Milwaukie Light Rail Line and parcels of land in the North District have been finalized, it's time to finalize a comprehensive transportation strategy for the entire South Waterfront. For more details about the proposed street plan:
http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=50535

from the June 11, 2009 Open House boards:
http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=50535&a=250663 (4.2 MB PDF)

The major proposed changes to the Concept Street Plan map include the following:

* Bond Ave extends north through the District and is one-way northbound
* Moody Ave becomes one-way southbound for vehicular traffic through the District; and one-way southbound for streetcar south of Woods St
* Moody Ave remains two-way streetcar north of Woods St
* Moody Ave includes a two-way bike/ped path along the west-side to minimize bike/streetcar interactions
* The grades of Moody Ave and Porter St are raised to a level consistent with the Willamette River Crossing Partnership findings necessary for light rail
* Porter St carries light rail in two directions
* River Pkwy terminates at Woods St
* Adjusted alignment of local east-west streets north of Gibbs St
* “Special Design Area” beneath the Ross Island Bridge has been relocated to reflect the location of the potential active-use park
* Grover St is aligned on either side of the Ross Island Bridge

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/500/sowa09.jpg

Willamette River Bridge Design Meetings
A workshop and public forum will be held to discuss design aspects of the new Willamette River Bridge to be built in South Waterfront. The new bridge will span the river from South Waterfront to OMSI and serve as a vital component of the Portland-Milwaukie light rail line. It will carry light rail trains, buses, cyclists and pedestrians, and be able to accommodate streetcars.

Bridge Design Workshop
Thursday July 2, 1:00 - 3:00 p.m.
David Evans and Associates, Willamette Room - 1st Floor
2100 SW River Parkway, Portland, OR 97239

Bridge Design Forum
Friday July 24, 12:00 - 1:00 p.m.
AIA Portland
403 NW 11th St., Portland, OR 97209
Please RSVP to AIA Portland: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/369665680

For more information about the Portland-Milwaukie Light Rail Line, click here:
http://trimet.org/pm/

sowat
Jul 1, 2009, 6:21 PM
with 16 floors left, and if they stick to their "floor per week" schedule, that means roughly a late Oct top-off. :)

PacificNW
Jul 2, 2009, 5:31 AM
Hmmm... I just happened to switch on the cam link provided to us (Wednesday night) and there appears to be a reflection off the window where the cam is located of a person walking around their condo. Just thought I would give a heads up....(In case this person doesn't want to be visible to the forum.)... :)

cronked
Jul 2, 2009, 6:15 PM
Ha! Thanks for the heads up! I guess I'll have to put something behind the cam to block out that reflection.

tworivers
Jul 3, 2009, 12:39 AM
Great map. I haven't looked at the plan yet -- what is the timeline for laying down streets between the Ross Island and Marquam bridges, and moving the streetcar tracks? Does that mean that a deal is in place with the barge operation?

I heard from a reliable source that the Life Sciences Building was funded by the Legislature a week or so ago. I think they want it completed before the MAX bridge opens up. Anybody else know about this?

crow
Jul 3, 2009, 1:18 AM
Great map. I haven't looked at the plan yet -- what is the timeline for laying down streets between the Ross Island and Marquam bridges, and moving the streetcar tracks? Does that mean that a deal is in place with the barge operation?

I heard from a reliable source that the Life Sciences Building was funded by the Legislature a week or so ago. I think they want it completed before the MAX bridge opens up. Anybody else know about this?

I heard the same thing about the Life Sciences Building. It might need to go to the feds now - I believe this was the first step to get the funding, and by the State endorsing it, then it has even greater probability of federal funding.

ProTram
Jul 3, 2009, 6:27 PM
This is slightly related, but with all the hubub about where they are going to move the Portland Beavers, have they EVER considered building a new Stadium in the South Waterfront? It seems like it would be such a great idea, what with all the projected residency in the area and with both the MAX and the Streetcar going there, plus it would break up the monotany of the buildings, give it something different.

I thought they could either put it next to the water and the new bridge between the Ross Island Bridge and the Marquam Bridge. Or secondary, next to the water by SW Lowell and SW Bond. They have the room!

PacificNW
Jul 3, 2009, 8:23 PM
I feel any site that can accommodate AAA baseball MUST be able to be enlarged to MLB specs/future team....imo. :)

Dougall5505
Jul 4, 2009, 11:28 PM
This is slightly related, but with all the hubub about where they are going to move the Portland Beavers, have they EVER considered building a new Stadium in the South Waterfront? It seems like it would be such a great idea, what with all the projected residency in the area and with both the MAX and the Streetcar going there, plus it would break up the monotany of the buildings, give it something different.

I thought they could either put it next to the water and the new bridge between the Ross Island Bridge and the Marquam Bridge. Or secondary, next to the water by SW Lowell and SW Bond. They have the room!

parking is a issue in sowa

ProTram
Jul 5, 2009, 12:09 PM
That is true, maybe they could put a small parking garage next to the park if it were located between Ross Island and Marquam Bridges. If the developers allowed it, I could see plenty of room for a stadium there AND the transit bridge. Now it not the time to overly flood that area with new highrises and a little change would be nice, to compliment the highrises and give another reason for people to move to the SoWa.

PGE park doesn't really have much parking either and they get it done. I know it is more downtown which helps, but a new park there could have the Streetcar AND MAX running next to it. It could be a beautiful spot, IMO.

Leo
Jul 5, 2009, 3:25 PM
PGE park doesn't really have much parking either and they get it done.

When I lived in the NW neighborhood, I thought PGE Park traffic was a nightmare. From a resident's perspective, it definitely did *NOT* work.

That being said, SoWa may be a good compromise. It will satisfy those who want the stadium near the city center instead of out in the country, and since there are so few SoWa residents right now, few people will complain.

ProTram
Jul 5, 2009, 6:50 PM
Yea and it could be a great draw to stimulate that area and draw people there as well. On the plot of land they could fit the ballpark (with room make it larger), a decent sized parking garage, a large plaza with a station for both the new MAX line and Streetcar to unload near the entrance, and a few small retail shops and restaurants to compliment the plaza. They could have the Ballpark face in the Northeast direction so you can see the water, the new bridge and a little bit of downtown, the parking garage could be south of the park next to the existing building, and the plaza could be north of the ballpark and take up the land between that and the freeway overpass. IMO, that would just look great!

PacificNW
Jul 6, 2009, 1:28 AM
Even though it is not written as a strict rule of MLB the baseball field layout probably would never face in a NE direction. (As viewed from behind home plate.) :)

ProTram
Jul 6, 2009, 3:41 AM
Even though it is not written as a strict rule of MLB the baseball field layout probably would never face in a NE direction. (As viewed from behind home plate.)

why?

bvpcvm
Jul 6, 2009, 4:46 AM
the road access to sowa is poor enough that i'd be surprised to see it considered. i know, sowa is all about transit, but whatever stadium they build would not be.

pdxf
Jul 6, 2009, 5:43 AM
I think the north end of SOWA could be a pretty good location, and should definitely be looked at.

Also, I found this page of baseball stadium orientations when I was playing around with the OMSI location:
http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/general/facts/diamonds/index.htm

crow
Jul 6, 2009, 2:41 PM
I think the north end of SOWA could be a pretty good location, and should definitely be looked at.

Also, I found this page of baseball stadium orientations when I was playing around with the OMSI location:
http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/general/facts/diamonds/index.htm

nice diagrams - SOWA is a little tight and hemmed in, but i don't think necessarily that parking should dictate. in reality that is the worst part about stadiums and arenas in general. it is the like the christmas syndrome that sizes all mall parking. ugh. I went to some games in europe (soccer - of course!!) and it was one packed train after another. As well they try to hustle you out of there after the game, b/c they don't want any riots etc. does not bode well for a mixed use venue, but nevertheless, the transit worked - they doubled up the train frequency and you just had a tube of people filing from train to stadium and back...this was a 120,000 stadium.! They had some parking as well, but it did not take over, it was isolated, or tucked under. Good design could happen here too if we don't fall prey to a cookie cutter design. i still wonder if the city could help the Portland Public School site just north of Broadway work - that would be ideal, then they could fix up the fabric around the MC and make it work and help bridge broadway with some active edges, and maybe span over Interstate Ave to the river and make this a mixed use entertainment sports mecca...?

ProTram
Jul 6, 2009, 5:55 PM
Here is kinda what I thought, please forgive the quality of the drawing. There could be a plaza north of the park with restaurants and such and the MAX/Streetcar station could stop at the plaza. The Stadium could obviously be made much larger due to the available room. Outfield seating, for example.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3695098778_9a8401d245.jpg?v=0

dkealoha
Jul 6, 2009, 6:08 PM
Here is kinda what I thought, please forgive the quality of the drawing. There could be a plaza north of the park with restaurants and such and the MAX/Streetcar station could stop at the plaza. The Stadium could obviously be made much larger due to the available room. Outfield seating, for example.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3695098778_9a8401d245.jpg?v=0

I think the fact that this land was gifted to OHSU by the Schnitzer family might prevent any kind of development of a stadium there. I doubt the Schnitzers would give the land to OHSU without terms and conditions about what it would be used for. So, they probably can't just sell the land to the city or whoever else.

ProTram
Jul 6, 2009, 6:42 PM
Yea that is logical. It just hurts to see all that valuable land sit there when something like this can go in and benefit the area. And after seeing all these drawings of proposed residential or commercial projects for the area, I see a much more beneficial future for it this way. The new light rail line is planned to go through there regardless.

sowat
Jul 6, 2009, 9:23 PM
Big Blue 7.6.09

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3081/img2890.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5691/img2892.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3951/img2893o.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4360/img2897.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8299/img2896.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1671/img2899v.jpg

NJD
Jul 7, 2009, 3:25 AM
This is going to be the ugliest building in the South Waterfront. The renderings look bad enough, but now that we can see the material choices for the skin...

Artist
Jul 7, 2009, 5:37 PM
Patience. The model isn't all blue. The terra cotta accents in the balconies will be a nice foil for the blue. And notice how changeable the blue panels appear depending on the color of the sky and the angle of the sun. The mini blinds on the windows will be off-white, so windows will reflect whatever color the sky and surrounding buildings are. Although I prefer colors native to the site, I think this will be ok when it is done. Thanks for the photos and the ongoing cam.

What is going on with the green roofs? Water barrier went down (I think), but what is all the other stuff sitting on the yet-to-be green roofs.

dkealoha
Jul 7, 2009, 5:53 PM
I'm a little surprised about how much blue panneling there is and how little window there is so far. I guess I'm used to our unit at the Ardea that is practically all window and hardly any grey pannel on the outside.

PacificNW
Jul 7, 2009, 6:40 PM
The project isn't even completed and the negativity is all ready beginning. Why?

sowat
Jul 7, 2009, 7:01 PM
I agree we should reserve final judgment until it's completed.

Artist, they are using the roofs for ongoing construction staging & storing. They have so little room to work with, all open space will be used until the very last minute, and I would expect the roof planting to be the very last thing that happens.

The sidecar section is skilled nursing, I understand, which would explain the smaller amount of glass where the gray paneling is. The corners of the tower look like they will have much more clear glass.

We do have to prepare for a very large profile though, especially from the north, and Ross Island Bridge, for example. The tower is almost a full block wide, and will look enormous from the bridge. Of course it will appear extremely narrow from I-5 & the E-W, and the upper-most floors will be even narrower and more dramatic. Ultimately when more towers fill in to the north the Mirabella will fill in the SoWa fabric fine.

dkealoha
Jul 7, 2009, 7:17 PM
The project isn't even completed and the negativity is all ready beginning. Why?

I wasn't trying to sound negative... I was just surprised how much panneling there is vs. window. I actually like the blue and think it will brighten up the area a bit (especially depending on how the orange areas turn out).

PacificNW
Jul 7, 2009, 8:09 PM
:cheers: Sorry if I misunderstood but my comment/question wasn't directed to your comments.. :)

bvpcvm
Jul 7, 2009, 9:48 PM
I liked the renderings quite a bit, but will reserve judgment until it's complete.

MightyAlweg
Jul 8, 2009, 11:28 AM
I like the blue panels. They remind me of my alma mater, Woodrow Wilson High School, which was built in 1958 and uses blue glass panels in aluminum frames much like this building.

But really, I like the greyish blue of these glass panels. It's the pink terra cotta balconies and grey blocks I'm not crazy about.

sowat
Jul 8, 2009, 2:59 PM
...It's the pink terra cotta balconies and grey blocks I'm not crazy about.

the pink material is insulation that is being covered up.

14th floor slab pour today

cronked-cam: http://98.246.156.74:8080/

sowat
Jul 9, 2009, 12:29 AM
from a Realty Trust promo email:

Enjoy South Waterfront Condominium Living at 2004 Prices

John Ross Reduced Pricing: Coming Soon!

Urban living in Portland's newest neighborhood has never been easer to afford.

With the John Ross now being over 64% sold, we are excited to announce that new price reductions at the John Ross are just around the corner! Please see below for examples of new pricing to come.

Example Price Adjustments:

Suite # Sq./Ft. Bd/Bth Previous Price > New Price ($Sq./Ft.)
207 638 Studio/1 $299,000 > $199,000 ($311)
1100 1,205 1/1 $549,000 > $349,000 ($289)
2508 1,831 2/2 $989,000 > $634,000 ($346)

Stay tuned over the next couple of weeks as we roll out new pricing to the public. For further questions regarding residential opportunities at the John Ross or to schedule a private appointment to view model homes, please contact our sales office at 503.227.2871.
Open hours Wednesday - Sunday 12-5pm, Monday & Tuesday by appointment.

smendesPDX
Jul 9, 2009, 9:37 PM
South Waterfront building gets cash
State gives $110 million in bonds; other funding still needed
By peter korn

The Portland Tribune, Jul 9, 2009

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The city’s future skyline received a boost last week when the Oregon Legislature passed a last-minute capital construction bill that provided $110 million in state bonding toward a new bioscience building in the South Waterfront area.

University officials and bioscience industry officials welcomed the news, which came despite warnings from critics who in recent months have said funding the building would not be a wise use of public money.

Oregon University System and Oregon Health & Science University officials sought $125 million in state bonds for the proposed $250 million Life Sciences Collaborative Building, and legislators pared that amount to $110 million. The rest of the costs are to be made up by private donations and grants from government agencies.

The proposed building would house laboratories and classrooms to be used by science and engineering students from a variety of Oregon universities as well as OHSU’s medical school. In addition, rentable lab space would be made available to bioscience companies, and a facility in the building would manufacture substances used in new drug trials.

In fact, university system officials have said the building could provide a major boost to Portland’s private bioscience industry, the size of which has been a matter of debate among scientists and industry experts. But the fate of the South Waterfront building is far from secured. The Legislature’s $110 million still leaves the project an estimated $30 million short of full funding.

According to Patrick Quinton, Portland Development Commission manager for the South Waterfront Urban Renewal Area, in today’s development climate, even having most of the necessary money secured does not guarantee success.

“That last amount can be the toughest,” Quinton said. “There’s a reason why it’s the last money to be raised.”

Quinton and OHSU officials said it is likely the shortfall will mean the 300,000-square-foot complex, if built, will be scaled down from its original design. But getting the building green-lighted, Quinton said, would represent a major step forward for the South Waterfront district, where development has stalled and many condominium buildings want for residents. The building would be built north of the buildings in South Waterfront – the first one north of the Ross Island Bridge.

“It is the biggest challenge we have right now,” Quinton said. “The combination of this building and light rail will jump-start development there. It’s a real development, but it also convinces people we’re actually going to be able to develop that area as well.”

The Legislature, in what some considered a surprise move, approved bond money for the new building despite cutting higher education operating budgets, including funds for OHSU’s medical school.

State Rep. Dennis Richardson, R-Central Point, a member of the Legislature’s Ways and Means Committee that sent the capital construction bill to the full legislature, said money for the new building was approved in a way that highlights the Legislature’s vulnerability to special interest requests.

Funding for the building was encompassed in an end-of-session capital construction bill that included money for dozens of Oregon University System projects throughout the state. Richardson said legislators received the bill the same day they voted on it.

“There are very few people who actually read the bills, and those that would read them, they have a hard time understanding what they say. They are very complicated,” Richardson said.

Richardson said he actually knew very little about the South Waterfront project, but that he voted against the capital construction bill because he did not think the state should be taking on more long-term debt during uncertain economic times.

In 2001, the Legislature provided OHSU with a $200 million state-backed bond, most of which OHSU used to build and staff a new biomedical research building at the university’s main campus on Marquam Hill.

Critics have said that state expenditures did not produce the promised public return of bioscience jobs. OHSU officials have said the money has paid for itself by allowing OHSU to hire scientists who bring grant money with them and by improving health care for Oregonians through clinical work provided by some of those scientists.

But State Sen. David Nelson, R-Pendleton, a supporter of the proposed building, said he viewed the building as a continuation of the state’s original investment, which he considered a success.

“From what I know it has (created jobs),” Nelson said. “OHSU is from my viewpoint one of the jewels of Portland. They create a huge amount of high-paying jobs and keep us in the forefront of medial advancements. I think we should invest more money in OHSU.”

Artist
Jul 9, 2009, 11:10 PM
MightyAlweg, the terra cotta color will be kind of earthy orange, or some variation of it. We will not have to look at Pepto Bismol Pink forever.

WonderlandPark
Jul 10, 2009, 3:34 AM
Why is it a waste of money? You build now, when people need the jobs, when construction costs are lower. Then when things rebound, you have a great building on the water to provide full time jobs. Its called being smart.

smendesPDX
Jul 10, 2009, 5:26 AM
I would love to see more students and more jobs enter the South Waterfront area, I hope this building happens soon!

zilfondel
Jul 10, 2009, 7:44 AM
When Republicans from rural oregon are voting for these kinds of Portland projects, I find that very interesting.

sowat
Jul 10, 2009, 9:16 PM
just happened to notice this larger rendering photo, and different angle, posted by NC3D at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Waterfront

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5255/southwaterfrontmirabell.jpg

there are a few other renderings we (or at least I) haven't seen, posted here:
http://www.nc3d.com/projects/the-mirabella.html

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6851/mira3.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9274/mira4.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8321/mira6.jpg

PacificNW
Jul 10, 2009, 11:44 PM
Personally, I think this tower is going to be a nice addition to Portland....we could have ended up with a project like the Mirabella in Seattle... Ugh!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/PacificNW/Picture2-4.png

Sioux612
Jul 11, 2009, 3:46 AM
I can tell I'm going to hate the material. The dull glass and the blue reminds me so much of the Benson.

cab
Jul 14, 2009, 8:16 PM
Come on, Retired seniors love baby blue :)

PacificNW
Jul 14, 2009, 8:46 PM
I know I do....:yes: :yes:

sowat
Jul 17, 2009, 3:45 PM
15th floor pour today. Half way there.

cronked-cam: http://98.246.156.74:8080/

sowat
Jul 17, 2009, 9:07 PM
the Mirabella org posted a July 13 update:
http://www.mirabellaretirement.org/portland/2009/071309.htm

sowat
Jul 19, 2009, 5:25 AM
SWF 7-18-09

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9517/sowa71809.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1048/sowa71809b.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1746/sowa71809c.jpg

sowat
Jul 19, 2009, 5:41 AM
Matisse 7-18-09

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6113/matisse718a.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7858/matisse718b.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1204/matisse718c.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3018/matisse718d.jpg

crow
Jul 19, 2009, 2:56 PM
SWF 7-18-09

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9517/sowa71809.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1048/sowa71809b.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1746/sowa71809c.jpg

nice shots - were you on the river?

sowat
Jul 19, 2009, 5:38 PM
no, just on the riverfront bike paths. The first one is by OMSI, the second just south of the Ross. Is. Br.

RoseCtyRoks
Jul 19, 2009, 11:56 PM
Thanks, Sowat! You got some beautiful shots. This area still seems like this modern day land of Oz that has just suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

I can't wait to see the Milwaukee Light Rail bridge in similar pics in a few years! All the future postcards will sell like hotcakes, whether sowa, or downtown is in the shot.

ad hoc
Jul 20, 2009, 6:58 PM
well, it isn't too low-rise. it is already twice as high as the surrounding buildings (to the east and south).

ad hoc
Jul 20, 2009, 7:02 PM
what an awesome view of the ross island bridge from that photo. that would be great to wake up to...

dkealoha
Jul 20, 2009, 8:34 PM
what an awesome view of the ross island bridge from that photo. that would be great to wake up to...

Until someday when they build those two towers on the block north of the Meriwether. Then... bye bye view.

NJD
Jul 25, 2009, 11:38 PM
Pastel pink... and baby blue. Ugliest addition to Portland since the 1000 Broadway building. Please tell me the pink is temporary...

Tykendo
Jul 26, 2009, 5:49 PM
Does anyone else notice that the accent railing or crown of the John Ross is different than the large rendering in the Mirabella site. That accent steel crown that was supposed to jutt out from the top of the John Ross was pretty cool and IMO, made the design better. I guess cost must have been a factor in it's deletion from the final product. Too bad!

MOPIdaho
Jul 27, 2009, 9:34 PM
Pastel pink... and baby blue. Ugliest addition to Portland since the 1000 Broadway building. Please tell me the pink is temporary...
Do you like Big Pink?

dkealoha
Jul 27, 2009, 9:58 PM
Pastel pink... and baby blue. Ugliest addition to Portland since the 1000 Broadway building. Please tell me the pink is temporary...

Note previous posts on page 14...

the pink material is insulation that is being covered up.

MightyAlweg, the terra cotta color will be kind of earthy orange, or some variation of it. We will not have to look at Pepto Bismol Pink forever.

MightyAlweg
Jul 28, 2009, 8:45 AM
Very pretty pictures there! Thanks for sharing.

sowat
Jul 28, 2009, 4:33 PM
Floor 16 poured today

the main crane will have to jack up next week, maybe this weekend? They're running out of clearance room above the concrete pour boom.

NJD
Jul 28, 2009, 7:58 PM
the pink material is insulation that is being covered up.

Ahh, thats good, i saw it from the Ross Is. and couldn't tell if it was temp or not. and...
Do you like Big Pink?

No, it was a horrible addition to our city, but at the time it was thought to be a good idea. The only reason that building is 'Post Modern' is its street-grid fitting shape and glass 'steps' that were a compromise with the city council. It is pure International style (as originally intended by SO&M), which is purely utilitarian and is not architectural artistry. The office floors are short and dark, and have no natural ventilation. The base is the worst part, no street level interaction at all, and they closed off Ankeny St. to open air and true public realm. Actually, the real worst part is the accompanying parking garage and squat plaza building that makes the whole area a dead zone.

I'm pretty sure that 'Big Pink,' along with the other 70's-80's office towers, were the reason for Portland's insistence on better design and street level amenities.

Now, back to the Mirabella:

I am glad to see an urban retirement home tower going up rather than another golf course subdivision on farm land or forests, no matter how 'ugly' it looks to me.

Artist
Jul 30, 2009, 2:49 AM
We had many reasons for selecting Mirabella. That is not have a golf course was important to us. They consume far too much water.

sowat
Jul 30, 2009, 7:20 PM
a few quick shots through the window, 7-30-09. Lunch break, raising the decks.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4113/mirab73009c.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8099/mirab73009b.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2586/mirab73009a.jpg

cronked
Jul 30, 2009, 7:31 PM
I wanted to just update everyone on the South Waterfront Neighborhood Park. Also known as the Elizabeth Caruthers Park. I overheard some people the other day saying how this park is moving along so slow that it won't be done until Christmas. They also mentioned how they only see 2-3 workers down there at a time. From my 17th floor vantage point things look much different to me. Things seem to be moving along at a good pace. Every day when I come home the park looks different and more developed. Granted they still have to plant all the trees and shrubs and I would imagine that might take a while but I would not be surprised to see this park done by the end of August. Considering we have a four month old baby, we are especially excited about the water feature pictured below. Originally they weren't sure if they could do a water feature at all due to budget constraints. Does anyone have any details on it? What kind of water feature will this be?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/3773085104_730d2826f3_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3545/3772277183_4c2a0fcde7_b.jpg

RoseCtyRoks
Jul 31, 2009, 5:46 AM
:previous: The fountain will be an interactive stepping stone spray/play feature that has become very popular in recent years at neighborhood parks.

Our boys, 10 & 8, still love the different ones around town that vary in design somewhat. Kids love to be able to control the water.....and when it shuts off, believe me, they figure it out in this weather!! Your little one(s) will come to enjoy this....guaranteed!

cronked
Jul 31, 2009, 8:30 PM
Excellent. An interactive water feature is even better! I'm sure it will be a hit. I think the size of this water feature is big enough to provide plenty of fun and attract people to the park but not too big that it brings swarms of people to the park. Visit Jameson Square on a sunny day and you'll see what I mean!

Rhome
Jul 31, 2009, 10:40 PM
A little off topic, but . . .

I've heard several people complaining about the activity at Jameson Park. I admit I've walked there myself with my kids, and I enjoy the positive energy there.

Is the concern that there's TOO much energy and that if you're looking for a quiet contemplative place to read a book, have a picnic, or carry on a conversation with the neighbor that it is difficult or impossible to? If so, I can understand why you would want to balance the attractions at Elizabeth Caruthers Park so that it is useful to everyone. This question is really open to everyone who uses/would use Caruthers or Jameson Park.

cronked
Aug 1, 2009, 12:36 AM
Yes, there is a ton of energy at Jameson Square and since I don't live near there I can always get away from it. I do enjoy taking my nieces and nephews there though. They have a blast. Ideally, with the Elizabeth Caruthers Park I would prefer a balance. Too much energy and you have parking problems, litter and excessive noise. Too little energy and you have a dead park that doesn't attract people to the neighborhood to live or visit. Which in turn is also bad for the businesses in South Waterfront, which I support. I went to many of the planning meetings for this park and after sitting through the meetings I really feel they came up with a great combination that will suit the neighborhood well. I'm looking forward to it!

pdxtraveler
Aug 1, 2009, 5:30 PM
A little off topic, but . . .

I've heard several people complaining about the activity at Jameson Park. I admit I've walked there myself with my kids, and I enjoy the positive energy there.

Is the concern that there's TOO much energy and that if you're looking for a quiet contemplative place to read a book, have a picnic, or carry on a conversation with the neighbor that it is difficult or impossible to? If so, I can understand why you would want to balance the attractions at Elizabeth Caruthers Park so that it is useful to everyone. This question is really open to everyone who uses/would use Caruthers or Jameson Park.


I love the energy of Jameson Square. And even more I love Tanner Springs two blocks away that was designed for the people who wanted a tamer park. They both are working exactly as planned! Although, I do think they would be surprised just how popular Jameson Square became.

Leo
Aug 1, 2009, 7:29 PM
I love the energy of Jameson Square. And even more I love Tanner Springs two blocks away that was designed for the people who wanted a tamer park. They both are working exactly as planned!

I don't think Jameson Square was planned to be a water playground for kids. I distinctly remember that before it was built, the Hoyt Street literature referred to the future park as having a "contemplative" water feature. That's definitely not what it turned out to be.

I'm glad the Tanner Springs park was planned to be more quiet (possibly, the way things turned out at Jameson Square was taken into consideration during the design of Tanner Springs).

sowat
Aug 3, 2009, 2:08 AM
Great. Just what south waterfront needs right now:

a SECOND dog spa:

http://thedoghouseportland.com/ :(

Artist
Aug 6, 2009, 11:46 PM
http://www.mirabellaretirement.org/portland/construction.htm
posted a July 29 update. Man, that blue is blue. It's getting hard to defend.

cityscapes
Aug 7, 2009, 3:12 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3796406487_42a1698c5b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/3797225724_b77bb99c35_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3796392433_a433fc160f_b.jpg
Taken today by me.
I can't tell if the blue is going to look cheap or be a welcome change from the darker glass on the other buildings.

cityscapes
Aug 7, 2009, 3:17 AM
Taken 8/6/09
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2645/3797212074_428aa99a62_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3516/3796393633_c5427ace45_b.jpg
Does anyone know what this is?

Atomic Glee
Aug 7, 2009, 4:18 AM
Does anyone know what this is?

Looks to me like a sample of facade materials. Developers will often build small installations of facade to see how the materials look in the real world.

RoseCtyRoks
Aug 7, 2009, 4:54 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/Hype_won/bensontower.jpg

Does the color of the Mirabella remind you of another building going up not too long ago?

Three guesses......some of you hit it on the head a while back, on the comparison. O.K. NOW I believe you! :rolleyes:

mmeade
Aug 7, 2009, 5:45 PM
Looks to me like a sample of facade materials. Developers will often build small installations of facade to see how the materials look in the real world.

Architects call this a facade mockup. We use it to make sure that the contractor and subs understand the building detailing and that the details hold up. The mockup can help solve problems on a small scale before they are installed on a large scale. Typically systems are installed one at a time and complications might not be visible until several different subs have come and gone. Getting it all done correctly once ensures that it can be done correctly across the whole building.

360Rich
Aug 8, 2009, 2:43 PM
Lenders take charge of South Waterfront condos
by Ryan Frank

Portland's two most prestigious real estate developers have lost primary control of two condo towers in Portland's South Waterfront district after sales collapsed in the housing crisis.

Gerding Edlen Development Co. and Williams & Dame Development built and marketed the John Ross and Atwater Place as part of a massive riverfront urban renewal project fueled by $125 million in taxpayer money for public works projects.

After developers fell behind their sales schedules, lenders exerted their power to take more control over sales at both buildings. The two developers remain involved in the projects.

continued at http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/08/lenders_take_charge_of_south_w.html

Northeast79
Aug 10, 2009, 3:14 PM
That looks like a 'mock-up'. It's a chance for the owner/architect to review how the contractor is going to construct the building envelope. They are looking at different transitions where water intrusion into the building is a potential problem.

I would say this is quite an ambitious mock-up. They are not always as big or as nice.

smendesPDX
Aug 10, 2009, 8:46 PM
ugh, this whole area makes me sick. its just so dead, windy, lonely and depressing.

PacificNW
Aug 10, 2009, 8:56 PM
:previous: :previous: Give the area a chance to grow and mature.... Wind??? Try living down here on the coast if you are not a fan of the wind.....

cronked
Aug 10, 2009, 11:55 PM
I am definately seeing a change in South Waterfront over the past couple of months. There is much more activity down there. Just last weekend I saw moving vans at Atwater, Ardea and Meriwether and all were move ins. We had another move in today at the Meriwether. As long as the economy doesn't drop the other shoe on us, we can expect that area to become increasingly popular. The finished park will really change the perception of the area, in my opinion. I don't know if the Gibbs St. bridge (construction starts this fall) will bring many people down there but it will be a cool looking bridge!

The wind is a pain sometimes although this summer things haven't been so bad. Our evening walks are mostly wind free. Not much we can do about the wind anyhow.

rsbear
Aug 11, 2009, 3:59 AM
ugh, this whole area makes me sick. its just so dead, windy, lonely and depressing.

Why bother reading and posting about an area that makes you sick. Doesn't that just make you sicker?

WonderlandPark
Aug 11, 2009, 4:53 AM
Was down there this morning, lots of activity, around OHSU, of course, but quite a bit of life happening on the waterfront, the various towers, joggers, dog-walkers, yada, yada, parking somewhat hard to find. Life seems to be finally coming to the area.

pdxtraveler
Aug 11, 2009, 1:57 PM
ugh, this whole area makes me sick. its just so dead, windy, lonely and depressing.

Really? I have ridden the streetcar down there several times and found many people around. I was actually quite pleasantly surprised! They never said this area would be built out instantly, it was always going to be a process. I still think of it as a success.

pylon
Aug 11, 2009, 3:54 PM
The park will take much of the barren feel away from down there, as well as reduce dust storms when the wind picks up. And the bridge will provide an easier, more aesthetically attractive way to get down there, especially for all of us living in the Corbett-Terwilliger-Lair Hill 'hood.

The bridge and the park together should create a synergy that will add more life down there. I'm looking forward to it, as the park and ped bridge are part of the reason I've decided to continue living here.

The ped bridge will create a unique exercise opportunity- walk up hill from SoWa to the upper terminus of the tram, and then ride it down for free.

In the near future smart retailers/foodies will be looking to rent some of those ground floor retail spots that have been empty.

pylon
Aug 11, 2009, 5:41 PM
This two-story retail space in the Matisse looks like it would be the perfect place for a much-needed dog spa-starved South Waterfront...

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6113/matisse718a.jpg

sowat
Aug 11, 2009, 9:16 PM
water leak test (a bit hard to make out in this digital zoom shot)

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7610/leaktest.jpg

cab
Aug 11, 2009, 11:02 PM
I do like the fact that this is one of the few buildings really taking advantage of the location by provide large out door spaces.

dkealoha
Aug 13, 2009, 6:08 PM
Some of the workers were protesting this morning. Didn't go up close enough to read their signs. Kind of seems like in this economy they should be happy to have jobs and not be protesting.