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WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
May 30, 2007, 12:27 AM
Alright guys and gals, we all have some kick ass proposals out there and it's time to share them. All I ask is that nobody posts Trump, Sapphire(lol), or The Bow since it's pretty obvious that's underway. This one has nothing to do with, though it can. :)




I'm going to start with Pier 27, one of the projects looking to kick start the development of Toronto's East Waterfront. Released today (May 29th 2007). Click the link.

http://www.pier27.ca/






Show us your goods!:tup:

Dylan Leblanc
May 30, 2007, 12:34 AM
A different design there.

This is the Radius office development in Victoria. It will be at the north end of downtown and will be the tallest office building in the city. A 17 storey residential tower and a university are also part of the development.

Here's a super cool animation of it - http://www.radiuscommercial.com/floorplates.html

http://www.radiuscommercial.com/images/RC_building_rendering.jpg

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
May 30, 2007, 12:43 AM
Sweet Dylan, that was super cool! That's a pretty massive development, way to go.

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 1:01 AM
These are some of my favorite proposals in Calgary:

Centennial Place:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9389/centennialplace7qr6.jpg

Jamieson Place:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4227/bentall4thave2as4.jpg

Centrium Place:

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/4758/centriumplace27tf.jpg

arriVa:

http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/5972/arriva82sl9.jpg

Neura:

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4548/nuera10wz2.jpg

These aren't my favroites, but they're major proposals:

Montreux & Lausanne:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8576/montreux3qp9.jpg

City Centre:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5844/citycentre3xf9to7.jpg

Penny Lane:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5729/pennylane11cb3.jpg

There's a lot more, but I'm too lazy to put them here...

@ Dylan: Is there really a University in there somewhere? :poke:

CCF
May 30, 2007, 1:02 AM
A $200 million development of free land steps away from Regina's downtown. These are preliminary renderings.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/curtis1982/collegecropped.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l314/ccf49/Scan0002.jpg

1ajs
May 30, 2007, 1:13 AM
CMHR
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4859/hr15mw.jpg

Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs
http://www.numberten.com/projects/in_progress/05091/05091al.jpg


100 main st
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c222/cvist/100mainB.jpg

canad inns hotel at HSC
yea i know its ugly
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1595/canadinnshsc5sf.jpg

Canwest global times square?
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5763/rw13etff6.png

Condos, boutique hotel, Assiniboine Avenue
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4215/front04202007kf0.jpg

Dylan Leblanc
May 30, 2007, 1:23 AM
What the heck is that??

@ Dylan: Is there really a University in there somewhere? :poke:
University Canada West is a private university that will be moving into this development. You can see it's location in the development if you go to the floorplates link and click on Blanshard Level and Herald & Caledonia Level. http://www.radiuscommercial.com/floorplates.html

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 1:27 AM
CMHR
Condos, boutique hotel, Assiniboine Avenue
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4215/front04202007kf0.jpg

Is that really where they're going to put it? It's gonna stick out pretty badly.

skrish
May 30, 2007, 1:50 AM
A few of my favourite Calgary proposals:

LaCaille on 4th
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8308/lacaille4thpa6.jpg

Taylor Family Digital Library
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6982/ccdlte9.jpg

Le Germain
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8572/grenvillegermain7gr4.jpg

Calgary Centre for Global Community
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3719/centreglobalcommfd4.jpg

City Centre I & II
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9065/citycentre5hz6.jpg

1ajs
May 30, 2007, 2:21 AM
Is that really where they're going to put it? It's gonna stick out pretty badly.
i think its neat i kinda wana see it get built

BrannyMuffin
May 30, 2007, 2:25 AM
i think its neat i kinda wana see it get built

I don't much like the building itself. In the right setting, it could be pretty cool but I agree with ctown.myth...it doesn't look right there. I think it needs to be in a spot with a complementary setting, not a contrasting setting.

alps
May 30, 2007, 2:31 AM
Most likely approved, I can't remember:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/halifax4.jpg

Not sure about this one, still working on the plan I think:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/halifax1.jpg

Final decision on these will be made this summer::fingerscrossed:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/2.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/halifax3.jpg

New Dal laboratories:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/halifax2.jpg

Prospects for this one do not look good:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/halifax5.jpg

Coldrsx
May 30, 2007, 2:35 AM
Edmonton- a few selections

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/whyteknight1/cp.png

http://members.shaw.ca/vincentwansink/Renderings/sobeys%20new.gif

http://www.bzka.com/images/projects/78/2.jpg

http://www.theicon.ca/html/images/ex/e2.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6360/founderscq2.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/Coltrain78/TheHood.jpg

http://www.stoutarc.com/Projects/Slideshows/EAG4.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1183/edmontonclinic1qa6.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1091/14417238aa6a3ug7.jpg


SEE the rest here...please comment

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=101053

vid
May 30, 2007, 2:47 AM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1192/waterfrontrenderingan4.png
Prince Arthur's Landing, a $100M dollar project to completely rebuild and expand the Marina Park. This is just a small part of the city's waterfront master plan. Construction has already started, and two chains are fighting over the hotel.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7553/current3wj9.jpg
George Jeffrey Children's Centre, should begin construction later this summer if they have the money for it.

There is also a new courthouse that will likely be built downtown but renderings aren't available yet as they're still unsure of where it's going.

aastra
May 30, 2007, 3:45 AM
Other Victoria proposals:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4289/roundhousecq0.jpg
Roundhouse (Victoria harbour - proposed)
www.roundhousevictoria.com

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/133a26b3-7939-4ba4-b93e-0c570ecf1751/wessex_tower.jpg
Silkwind at Westshore (Colwood, west of Victoria - this one was actually just approved last night)
www.silkwindwestshore.ca

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1779/hudsonho6.jpg
The Hudson (downtown - proposed)
www.hudsonliving.ca

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 4:25 AM
What the heck is that??


University Canada West is a private university that will be moving into this development. You can see it's location in the development if you go to the floorplates link and click on Blanshard Level and Herald & Caledonia Level. http://www.radiuscommercial.com/floorplates.html

Wow, that's one small university...lol.

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 4:26 AM
Edmonton- a few selections

http://www.bzka.com/images/projects/78/2.jpg



OOO...that's nice! Hope we get something like that!


Final decision on these will be made this summer::fingerscrossed:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/2.jpg


Finally some building I like on the east coast!

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 4:29 AM
http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/133a26b3-7939-4ba4-b93e-0c570ecf1751/wessex_tower.jpg
Silkwind at Westshore (Colwood, west of Victoria - this one was actually just approved last night)
www.silkwindwestshore.ca



Good for you Victoria! It reminds me of the taller look-a-like in Vancouver...don't worry, it still looks great!

adam-machiavelli
May 30, 2007, 5:18 AM
Wow, Ottawa has nothing of interest that is worthy of this thread.

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 6:08 AM
Guys, let's try to not make this a city vs. city, I want to know what other cities are building!

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
May 30, 2007, 2:50 PM
These look a lot like our College Park Buildings here in T.O. Also isn't Jamison already u/c?

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8576/montreux3qp9.jpg

http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/28toronto-residencesofcollegepark1.jpg

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 2:57 PM
Oh we can't post u/c? Well then...

Exchange:

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4048/exchange7cu2.jpg

La Caille:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8308/lacaille4thpa6.jpg

La Caille on 8th:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8049/lacaille8th01uv6.jpg

Renior Suites:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1672/renoir5gc0.jpg

These aren't my favroites, but they're major proposals:

Montreux & Lausanne:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8576/montreux3qp9.jpg

City Centre:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5844/citycentre3xf9to7.jpg

Calgary centre for Global Community:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3719/centreglobalcommfd4.jpg

There's a lot more, but I'm too lazy to put them here...

@ Dylan: Is there really a University in there somewhere? :poke:

Coldrsx
May 30, 2007, 2:58 PM
^god no...LM is a monstrosity...college park is nice

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
May 30, 2007, 3:01 PM
like LM, love the massing, I'm just not sure if the Yellow tops will look good.

ctown.myth
May 30, 2007, 3:14 PM
I don't like LM either, but they do have the most suites of any residential tower in Calgary (correct me if I'm wrong). It would take out almost half of my community if everyone moved there.

vid
May 30, 2007, 3:50 PM
LM is completely different colours, those are just odd pictures, iirc. I was going to draw it but just haven't been in the mood.

I used to have pictures but I can't find them now. :/

graupner
May 30, 2007, 5:19 PM
This is a list of the serious projects in Montreal, there are many more but I'M in a hurry :

The student residences @ Okeefe Brewery
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6350/okeefexa0.jpg

Le Bleury appartment building
http://www.pbase.com/martinmtl/image/70698517.jpg

Hines/SITQ Office tower
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7047/219436ch0.jpg
http://www.cataclaw.com/pix_qc/avant.jpg

333 Sherbrooke Residences
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1364/3332zc8.png

Universite de Montreal New Medicine and Biotechnics Campus
http://www.umontreal.ca/gare/images/maquette1.jpg
http://www.umontreal.ca/gare/images/maquette2.jpg

Extension of the subway Blue line to Saint-Leonard and Anjou City ; New Express commuter train line to Repentigny and Eastern Montreal
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8332/planmet2004el9.gif


Demolition of the Bonaventure expressway and densification of a neglected neighborhood
Now:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/avant/BonaventureSUD_2005_72dpi.jpg
2010:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/apres/BonavantureSUD_2025_72dpi.jpg
Now:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/avant/BonaventureNORD_2005_72dpi.jpg
2010:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/apres/BonaventureNORD_2025_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/reamenagement_bonaventure/large/Modelisation_rue_Duke_vue_vers_le_nord_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_vision2025/3d_entree_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_vision2025/3d_bassins_72dpi.jpg

ComeBack of tramways in Montreal after nearly 60 years of absence. 1 new line approved and 3 others on the drawing board.
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_vision2025/tramway_vision_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/fr/medias/rapport_final/plan_tramway_72dpi.jpg

Senior Residences Le Gouverneur
http://www.luxgouverneur.ca/images/gallerie/big29.jpg

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
May 30, 2007, 5:31 PM
ComeBack of tramways in Montreal after nearly 60 years of absence. 1 new line approved and 3 others on the drawing board.


Cool, I think you'll find it'll become your favorite form of mass transit when complete.

alps
May 30, 2007, 5:32 PM
:previous: Bonaventure expressway plans look amazing!

edit: @ graupner

1ajs
May 30, 2007, 7:18 PM
wow i have never seen montreal from that angle befor amazing now if it could get some more skyscrapers for its downtown......

phesto
May 30, 2007, 9:13 PM
A couple different ones for Vancouver:

The Yale:
http://www.rizealliance.com/img/project/abcdefghijklmnop-large.jpg

1409 West Pender:
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/Misc/SouthElevation.jpg

raggedy13
May 31, 2007, 6:17 AM
The majority of the most significant projects are (luckily) already u/c such as the Shangri-La, Canada Line, convention centre expansion, Olympic venues, athlete's village, etc. Other potentially significant projects are unfortunately more rumour/"planned" than proposal at this point such as the new Vancouver Art Gallery, Dalai Lama Centre for Peace and Education, a couple potential office towers, some starchitect designed future tallest condo, Millenium Line extension etc.

As for interesting proposals that are a little more tangible, there are the following...

- 1153 West Georgia
http://www.mcmparchitects.com/img/photos/1133%20W%20Georgia.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/Misc/Perspective20View201.jpg

- Hotel Georgia
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/raggedy13/Misc/nightt.jpg
http://www.pacificmetropolis.com/images/801_west_georgia_ii_3.jpg

- Jameson House (apparently to be underway in June)
http://www.fosterandpartners.com/content/projects/1289/110909.jpg

- Whitecaps Stadium (not the actual final design)
http://www.whitecapsnewstadium.com/data/upload/renderings_conert.jpg
http://www.stadiumnow.org/Stadium%20NOW!/Setting%20the%20record%20straight_files/renderings_city.jpg
http://www.whitecapsnewstadium.com/data/upload/renderings_vanmap.JPG

- Evergreen Line
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/SkyTrain2009.png

- Vancouver Streetcar
http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/engsvcs/transport/streetcar/images/DTStreetcarMap.jpg

WaterlooInvestor
May 31, 2007, 11:30 AM
Kitchener:

1) Centre Block
Andrin envisions a dynamic, inspiring, sustainable and engaging redevelopment concept for the Centre Block consisting of a mixed-use complex, combining:
� A total of up to 400 residential units, offering a range of residential suite types, including lofts, affordable condominiums, larger family oriented dwellings and penthouses.
� Grade-related retail along the King Street West frontage.
� Live-work units at grade along Duke and Young Streets.
� A multi-level underground parking structure for up to 750 spaces, with public parking and parking for the retail users and secure residential parking.
� A boutique hotel and spa in the restored and renovated heritage structures at the corner of King and Young Streets.
� A podium building on King Street West with at-grade retail, a parkette and green landscaped element as part of the streetscape design with a point tower set back from the podium.
� A similar podium building will be located at Duke and Young Streets to reflect an urban street edge with a point tower set back from the podium.
The development offers the following features and elements:
� The development will proceed in several phases, with the underground parking structure constructed as part of the first phase.
� The residential portion of the development will be made up of a “main street” style podium building of approximately five storeys in height, with live-work unites at grade along Duke and Young Streets and retail space at grade along King Street West, and loft style suites on the upper floors.
� The balance of the residential development will be incorporated into two point towers set back from the main faces of the podium buildings, a shorter tower of up to 12 storeys facing King Street West, and a taller tower of up to 18 storeys on Duke Street.
� The access to the parking and loading areas, which will be located internally on the site, will be partially covered by a landscaped green roof accessible from the second and third floors of the two podium buildings and screened from street view.
� The buildings will be designed to incorporate the highest levels of environmental measures and sustainable development features that are feasible, and be eligible for LEED certification. Some of these features will include a green roof, upgraded building envelopes, enhanced building systems, the use of local building materials and trades, the remediation of the existing site and maximizing the use of local transit systems.
The design will strive for architectural excellence and be:
� Compatible with the existing physical, heritage and social context of the site, including restoration and redevelopment of the existing heritage structures into a boutique hotel and spa.
� Responsive to angular planes and minimize shadow impacts.
� Address positively the existing City Hall to the west.
� Enhance the main street qualities of the three street frontages.
� Provide opportunities for outdoor animated uses such as cafes on King Street West.
� Overall safety and security within the site will be an important element of the design considerations.
The design will use traditional local materials as well as a contemporary design to create a dynamic composition that will fit comfortable within the fabric of the three street frontages and also set a high standard of design as a recognizable landmark in the ongoing revitalization of downtown Kitchener.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5991/downtownkitchenercentrehn6.jpg


2) Arrow Lofts
300 Units
http://www.auburndev.com/images/arrowLoftsBig.jpg

Waterloo:

700 Units
http://www.auburndev.com/images/barrelyards.jpg

caltrane74
Jun 4, 2007, 3:26 AM
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The Great Scaper
Jun 4, 2007, 5:06 AM
Also in Victoria is the Juliet at 14 stories
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/thegreatscaper/gallery_large_01.jpg

And the Falls at 18 and 13 stories two towers.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/thegreatscaper/thefalls016.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/thegreatscaper/thefalls019.jpg

Now under construction!!! :D

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/thegreatscaper/fallsanddowntownbuildings005.jpg

SunCoaster
Jun 5, 2007, 1:03 AM
- Vancouver Streetcar
http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/engsvcs/transport/streetcar/images/DTStreetcarMap.jpg

:previous: What's the timing on the streetcar project? And, are the streetcars to be more ala Toronto or San Francisco ...or, something completely different?

bomberguy
Jun 5, 2007, 1:32 AM
http://blueandgold.ca/Images/5_2.jpg

http://blueandgold.ca/Images/medb-night-1012.jpg

http://blueandgold.ca/Images/medb-day-1012.jpg

yumm

biggiebear
Jun 5, 2007, 2:35 AM
http://blueandgold.ca/Images/5_2.jpg

http://blueandgold.ca/Images/medb-night-1012.jpg

http://blueandgold.ca/Images/medb-day-1012.jpg

yumm

Hey bomberguy what is the website to view all the stadium proposals as shown in the first picture?

Kevin_foster
Jun 5, 2007, 3:30 AM
Demolition of the Bonaventure expressway and densification of a neglected neighborhood
Now:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/avant/BonaventureSUD_2005_72dpi.jpg
2010:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/apres/BonavantureSUD_2025_72dpi.jpg
Now:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/avant/BonaventureNORD_2005_72dpi.jpg
2010:
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_autoroute_bonaventure/apres/BonaventureNORD_2025_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/reamenagement_bonaventure/large/Modelisation_rue_Duke_vue_vers_le_nord_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_vision2025/3d_entree_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_vision2025/3d_bassins_72dpi.jpg

ComeBack of tramways in Montreal after nearly 60 years of absence. 1 new line approved and 3 others on the drawing board.
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/imgCommunes/img_vision2025/tramway_vision_72dpi.jpg
http://www.havremontreal.qc.ca/fr/medias/rapport_final/plan_tramway_72dpi.jpg

Senior Residences Le Gouverneur
http://www.luxgouverneur.ca/images/gallerie/big29.jpg

Montreal seems to be doing ALL the right things. Good job :tup: :tup:

bomberguy
Jun 5, 2007, 3:44 AM
Hey bomberguy what is the website to view all the stadium proposals as shown in the first picture?

Got those images from blueandgold.ca

SFUVancouver
Jun 5, 2007, 3:48 AM
The streetcar will be of the Toronto-variety, versus San Francisco's cable cars. They will use low-floor trams with parts of the route being mixed-with-traffic and other running along a grass median of the type found in Lyon.

The infrastructure for the first phase (referred to as phase 0) will be built in time for the Olympics, though unfortunately it won't be in operation due to it running through the secured area of the Olympic Village. The route will be from Granville Island to Science World with connections to the SkyTrain at the Olympic Village station (Canada Line) and at Main Street-Science World station (Expo and Millennium Lines). This is the same route as the demonstration streetcar route that runs during the summer using restored trains from 1900. The new system will likely use these restored cars at first and then expand the fleet to include the modern low-floor types soon after. The second phase (phase 1) will extend from Science World to the Waterfront Station (SkyTrain, SeaBus passenger ferry, and the Westcoast Express commuter rail), passing through Chinatown and Gastown in the process. The third (phase 2) phase will be an extension to Stanley Park via Coal Harbour. A spur line will split from the main line between Science World and Chinatown and go through Yaletown along Pacific Blvd, which is being upgraded in sections in preparation. This spur line will eventually be extended to the beaches along English Bay and then loop back to meet up with the main line near the entrance to Stanley Park, making a loop of downtown.

In the much longer run there is talk of the streetcars running up the Arbutus Corridor and then crossing over somewhere to meet up with the Canada Line at one of its South Vancouver stations. Exciting stuff for the city. We should never have got rid of the streetcars. At least we switched to electric trolley buses for the most part in the City of Vancouver. But the other municipalities didn't want the overhead wires and have been stuck with diesels ever since.

WaterlooInvestor
Jun 16, 2007, 9:14 AM
http://www.city.waterloo.on.ca/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=1690

TAKE NOTICE that the Council of The Corporation of the City of Waterloo will hold a Formal Public Meeting on Monday, June 25, 2007, at a time to be determined, in the Council Chambers, 3rd Floor, Waterloo City Centre, 100 Regina Street South, Waterloo, to consider the following application to amend the Zoning By-law pursuant to Section 34 of the Planning Act and to amend the Official Plan pursuant to Section 17 of the Planning Act.

Original Proposal(for reference)
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsPage47.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsPage48.jpg


Revised Proposal :banana:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsPage1.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsPage2.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsProposalDescription.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsPreliminaryConceptPlan.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsPage20.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BarrelYardsMap8.jpg


$200-$250 million (up from 100-130)
1006 units (up from 750)
Building heights up to 25 stories (up from 17)
230,000 sq ft of commercial and office space (up from 150,000)
280 hotel rooms (up from 120-150)
Plus a more modern design

All these changes equate to WaterlooInvestor being one happy guy :D :cheers:

(I dare someone to say Waterloo Region isn't urbanizing :haha:)

ScottFromCalgary
Jun 17, 2007, 6:22 PM
^god no...LM is a monstrosity...college park is nice

Well I wouldn't worry too much about LM, as it appears to be dead in the water, at least in its current state. It's too far from the core of downtown, too pricey, and the developer has never built a single major development. I think they should at least get their feet wet before they set off to build "Alberta's Tallest Residential Towers" aka "Calgary's Most Prestigious Residence".

malek
Jun 17, 2007, 6:37 PM
$200-$250 million (up from 100-130)
1006 units (up from 750)
Building heights up to 25 stories (up from 17)
230,000 sq ft of commercial and office space (up from 150,000)
280 hotel rooms (up from 120-150)
Plus a more modern design

All these changes equate to WaterlooInvestor being one happy guy :D :cheers:

(I dare someone to say Waterloo Region isn't urbanizing :haha:)

Any idea about how much those units will cost? range of prices?

Deez
Jun 18, 2007, 6:18 AM
Here's some Ottawa stuff copy-pasted directly from our development thread. Nothing overly exciting...a lot of stuff has just recently started construction.

The Ottawa Centre for Innovation - Proposed
"A physical focal point for the local tech community, and possibly an incubation centre and commercialization station." Described as a flagship building for the city.
Developer: The Ottawa Partnership
Location: TBD
Web: http://archive.ottawabusinessjournal.com/archive_detail.php?archiveFile=./pubfiles/obj/archive/2007/April/13/OBJ-Technology/20506.xml&start=0&numPer=20&keyword=the+ottawa+partnership&sectionSearch=&begindate=1%2F1%2F2007&enddate=12%2F31%2F2007&authorSearch=&IncludeStories=1&pubsection=&page=&IncludePages=1&IncludeImages=1&mode=allwords&archive_pubname=OBJ-Web%0A%09%09%09
Rendering: Not available

150 Elgin St. - Leasing
27 storey mixed use tower and 900-seat concert hall
Developer: Morguard
Location: 150 Elgin St.
Web: http://www.150elgin.com/
Rendering:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/Reersmeer/150E.jpg

Edinburgh Common - Sales
Two 25 storey residential towers and numerous townhouses on large vacant lot (site of former Dominion Bridge) overlooking the Rideau River.
Developer: Claridge
Location: 100 Landry St., off Vanier Parkway just south of Beechwood Ave.
Web: http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/pec/2006/10-24/ACS2006-PGM-APR-0217.htm
Rendering:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/Reersmeer/commontower.jpg

Claridge Plaza, Phase II - Sales
25 storey twin of Phase I (see below)
Developer: Claridge
Location: 200 Rideau St.
Web: http://www.claridgehomes.com/projects/condominiums/plaza/
Rendering:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/Reersmeer/registera_08.jpg

Place de Ville Phase III - Leasing
500,000 sq ft. commercial tower of unknown height (likely ~20 storeys)
Developer: Brookfield
Location: Kent St. at Queen St.
Web: Not available
Rendering: Not available

265 Laurier - Proposed
Currently a parking garage, GWL plans to build a 385,000 sq. ft. office tower on this site some time in the future
Developer: Great-West Life
Location: 265 Laurier Ave. W.
Web: Not available
Rendering:
http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/bmo2.JPG

Hudson Park Building 2 - Sales
18 storey residential tower
Developer: Charlesfort
Location: Kent St. at Lisgar St.
Web: http://www.charlesfort.ca/hudson-park-ii/
Rendering:
http://www.charlesfort.ca/hudson-park/images/ext-large-0.jpg

500 Preston St. - Approved
18 storey residential tower with ground level retail
Developer: Routeburn
Location: 500 Preston St.
Web: Not available
Rendering:
http://www.ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/pec/2006/03-28/ACS2006-PGM-APR-0047_files/image004.jpg

Standard Life Phase III - Rumoured
17 storey commercial tower at 142 Bank St.
Developer: Northam
Location: 142 Bank St. (across from new Telus Building)
Web: http://www.colliersmn.com/prod/cclod...2570C2004A297F
Rendering: Not available

The Continental - Sales
15 storey residential tower
Developer: Charlesfort
Location: Richmond Rd.
Web: http://www.charlesfort.ca/continental/
Rendering:
http://charlesfort.ca/continental/images/ext-large-0.jpg

Petrie's Landing - Sales
Four 13 storey residential towers
Developer: Brigil
Location: North Service Rd. near Petrie Island in Orleans
Web: http://petrieslanding.com/index.html
Rendering:
http://petrieslanding.com/images/floorplans_img.jpg

Orleans Town Center Complex - Approved
Mixed use 10 storey complex
Developer: Brigil
Location: St. Joseph Blvd. at Tenth Line
Web: Not available
Rendering: Not available

Rideau Centre Expansion - Construction application withdrawn, likely to be resubmitted
2 storey expansion of Rideau Centre into the former Ogilvy Dpt. Store
Developer: Viking-Rideau
Location: Rideau St. at Nicholas St.
Web: Not available
Rendering:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/Reersmeer/image018.jpg

80 Metcalfe - Rumoured
150,000 sq ft. commercial tower of unknown height rumoured to be in the works
Developer: Metcalfe Realty
Location: 80 Metcalfe St.
Web: Not available
Rendering: Not available

O'Connor at Slater - Rumoured
350,000 sq ft. commercial tower of unknown height rumoured to be in the works
Developer: Brouse Holdings
Location: O'Connor St. at Slater St.
Web: Not available
Rendering: Not available

Orleans Arts Center - Approved
Part of the Orleans Town Center concept, this facillity will house a 500-seat concert hall, among other things
Developer: Orleans Town Center Partnership
Location: Centrum Blvd. in Orleans
Web: http://www.orleansonline.ca/pages/A2006091301.htm
Rendering:
http://www.orleansonline.ca/images/arts_centre_1.jpg

Ottawa Congress Center Expansion - Proposed
Expansion (possibly vertical) of the current Congress Center Facilities
Developer: Federal/Provincial Governments
Location: Rideau Centre
Web: Not available
Rendering: Not available

Lebreton Flats Redevelopment Phase I - Approved
Directly adjacent to downtown, this large piece of land is slowly being sold off by the NCC. First phase includes no less than two 13 storey towers.
Developer: Claridge
Location: Directly West of the CBD
Web: http://www.claridgehomes.com/lebreton/
Rendering:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/Reersmeer/LeBret.jpg

Lebreton Flats Redevelopment - Proposed
Directly adjacent to downtown, this large piece of land is slowly being sold off by the NCC. After the completion of the first phase, another parcel of land will be sold.
Developer: TBD
Location: Directly West of the CBD
Web: http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/bins...4-20506&lang=1
Rendering:
http://www.cfff.ca/memorial/images/memorial_map.JPG

Former CFB Rockcliffe Redevelopment - Proposed
The DND has recently turned this 310 acre parcel of land over to the Canada Lands Company, who have contracted architects to come up with a preliminary configuration for how the land will be appropriated. Design process scheduled for completion at year-end 2008.
Developer: Unknown
Location: South of Ottawa River, north of Montreal Rd., west of NRC, east of St. Laurent Blvd.
Web: http://www.clcrockcliffe.ca/
Rendering:
http://www.clcrockcliffe.ca/images/rockcliffeAeriallg.jpg

WaterlooInvestor
Jun 18, 2007, 6:54 AM
Any idea about how much those units will cost? range of prices?

No word yet from the developer. However, I can give you prices from the Bauer Lofts which is under construction right now in Uptown. Bauer is a $50-million mixed-use development involving 3 buildings. It will include ground-floor retail part of which is a specialty grocery store that is relocating, offices, and 131 condos as part of a 15 storey building.

Prices as of Feb. 15, 2006 , condo prices have increased ~10% since then (Bauer is sold out, so there's no price updates)

674 sq feet: $182.900
835 sq feet: $208,900
957 sq feet: $241,900
1124 sq feet: $286,900
1295 sq feet: $353,900
1509 sq feet: $391,800

Three units sold close to $700,000 - but thats because two smaller units were merged together. I can see a few people doing the same thing at the Barrel Yards. Hope this gives you an idea of Uptown prices.

Bauer Lofts Rendering:
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BauerLoftsRendering.jpg

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
Jun 18, 2007, 8:23 AM
Here is a new one for Hogtown. A fairly large building, look at the starting prices!

http://www.thestthomas.com/

caltrane74
Jun 18, 2007, 2:38 PM
Starting price 2 million dollars. wow! for an apartment.

I think Regency starting prices were 2.5 million. anyways I am not rich enough to buy there.

malek
Jun 18, 2007, 3:10 PM
Prices as of Feb. 15, 2006 , condo prices have increased ~10% since then (Bauer is sold out, so there's no price updates)

674 sq feet: $182.900
835 sq feet: $208,900
957 sq feet: $241,900
1124 sq feet: $286,900
1295 sq feet: $353,900
1509 sq feet: $391,800

Three units sold close to $700,000 - but thats because two smaller units were merged together. I can see a few people doing the same thing at the Barrel Yards. Hope this gives you an idea of Uptown prices.



wow thats damn expensive, how are these prices competitive with single family housing?

WhipperSnapper
Jun 18, 2007, 4:12 PM
for most of the country, those Waterloo prices are affordable and for a select few, rock bottom

malek
Jun 18, 2007, 4:24 PM
Yeah most of the country being the big cities.

I am just curious to understand why develop in density like that in a small city, is it because the prices are really competetive against single family house ? or not really.

trueviking
Jun 18, 2007, 5:00 PM
Here is a new one for Hogtown. A fairly large building, look at the starting prices!

http://www.thestthomas.com/

very nice!

someone123
Jun 18, 2007, 5:10 PM
Some people, mostly retirees, want to own their home but don't want to be bothered with maintaining a house. A lot of them don't really care about the square footage because they start out with homes that are too big for them anyway.

malek
Jun 18, 2007, 5:14 PM
Some people, mostly retirees, want to own their home but don't want to be bothered with maintaining a house. A lot of them don't really care about the square footage because they start out with homes that are too big for them anyway.

Thats an excellent reason for retirement homes, are these proposals retirement ones? Here in Laval (370k), the only tall structures serve that purpose. Everything else is low rise and single family housing (bungalows).

someone123
Jun 18, 2007, 5:45 PM
Most suburban condos are basically retirement homes. The cheaper units are often purchased by first time buyers who can't afford a house. Some single people buy because they don't want a house but they want the equity.

WaterlooInvestor
Jun 19, 2007, 9:02 AM
wow thats damn expensive, how are these prices competitive with single family housing?

Overall these prices are competitive with single-family homes. The best indication is how quickly the Bauer Lofts sold out. It was initiallly a 12-storey building, sold out in a month. 3 more stories were added (bringing it to 15 like the render), which also sold out in a month after release. Also remember these are high-end condos: 10 foot ceilings, 8 foot doors, granite countertops, stainless steel sinks, modern design, seperate shower, etc.. so you are getting value for your money.

Here's an idea of a single family home in the 300's. You really need to spend 500+ for an executive home in Waterloo Region. MLS®: 631546, $354,900, 2200 sqft
http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb16/highres/6/631546_1.jpg

for most of the country, those Waterloo prices are affordable and for a select few, rock bottom
Yeah most of the country being the big cities.

Compared to the million+ cities, these prices are cheap. When you compare prices with our similar sized neighbours, Waterloo real estate tends to be the most expensive.


Some people, mostly retirees, want to own their home but don't want to be bothered with maintaining a house. A lot of them don't really care about the square footage because they start out with homes that are too big for them anyway.
Thats an excellent reason for retirement homes, are these proposals retirement ones? Here in Laval (370k), the only tall structures serve that purpose. Everything else is low rise and single family housing (bungalows).
Most suburban condos are basically retirement homes. The cheaper units are often purchased by first time buyers who can't afford a house. Some single people buy because they don't want a house but they want the equity.

someone123: Speak for your own city, this isn't a retirement home. These are modern professional condos marketed towards the 20-40 age range. Also these are not suburban condos: it's mixed use, with ground floor retail, on King Street (KW's main street). The Barrel Yards will also have some ground floor retail/patios and some mixed-use as well. Here is how the Bauer is being marketed:

Live and entertain in a modern loft space where signature architecture meets industrial design. Come home to a bright, open-concept loft space with 10foot high ceilings and a spectacular 8 foot high entrance door. Loft sizes range from 600 to 1200 square feet and are offered in a variety of floor plans including one bedroom, one bedroom with den, two bedroom and two bedroom with two full bathrooms and den. The inside of the units also feature 8 foot high pocket doors. Whether you’re preparing a snack or a sumptuous five-course meal, you’ll enjoy the well-appointed bistro style kitchen with center island and stylishly modern cabinetry. Let daily stress drift away as you unwind in a spa-like bathroom. Enjoy the view from your private terrace as many of the lofts overlook the open courtyard of the Bauer Buildings. Destined to become a coveted address, the distinctive loft residences stylishly blend the old with the new creating a versatile and intimate space. Choose the floor plan that suits your lifestyle and enjoy the luxury of the Bauer Lofts standard features. You can also customize your space with a variety of upgradeable finishes and features. The decision is yours. After all it's your life. Your loft. http://bauerlofts.com/

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/BauerLofts-TheLofts.jpg

I am just curious to understand why develop in density like that in a small city, is it because the prices are really competetive against single family house ? or not really.

Waterloo's high-tech economy is booming: 2000 openings are currently available. One example is RIM: ten years ago they only had ~130 employees. Today the company employs 6,250 people worldwide, 4400 in Waterloo.

Now this is a generalization, but a lot of those new employees are fresh young graduates out of the University of Waterloo. So you're making $50K+, single or in a couple but without kids, and in your 20's. A condo seems like the perfect fit.

These aren't the only two projects. There have been close to 3000 units either constructed in the past 2 years, under construction or proposed in Waterloo Region's urban areas. As a personal example, I'm 23, and my bf's 25: we bought a 645 sq. ft. unit at the Kaufman Lofts (270 units) which are also on King Street just 1.9 km south from the Bauer Lofts. Kaufman's is "downtown", Bauer is "uptown", but it's all being connected with LRT. Also the main university campuses are just north of uptown, and two satelitte campuses have been built/are under construction Downtown (further connecting the two areas).

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
Jun 19, 2007, 3:21 PM
Planning docs for the building with units starting at $2 million.



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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1079/569774744_db41428885_o.jpg

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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1388/569774726_6540798ff2_o.jpg

malek
Jun 19, 2007, 3:55 PM
WaterlooInvestor thanks for the explanations. The markets and prices are really different.

someone123
Jun 20, 2007, 1:02 AM
The Salter Street waterfront proposal was approved by Halifax's city council tonight. It may still be appealed, although its prospects seem pretty good. Here is a rendering I made of it (it is the building in black and white):

http://www.pbase.com/halifaxphoto/image/78764235/original.jpg

It doesn't look like much but it is fairly significant since it is the last large undeveloped chunk of the downtown waterfront (there are plenty of other stretches that need work but at a minimum they all have wooden boardwalk, etc).

Another major proposal not listed earlier is King's Wharf in Dartmouth:
http://www.faresinc.com/images/home.jpg

Rnr_ss
Jun 20, 2007, 2:34 AM
701 univercity 33 fl Montréal
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Les diamants 28 fl Montréal
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My favorites
Le vistal (U/C) 25 fl
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Concordia Pavillon John-Molson 17 fl (U/C)
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8920/67518789am0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Le Crystal de la Montagne 27 fl (U/C)
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malek
Jun 20, 2007, 4:33 AM
The last three aren't proposals but UC ;)

BrannyMuffin
Jun 20, 2007, 4:54 AM
Qu'Appelle Diocese lands in Regina...Right now there are 5 historical buildings on this 20 acre site. The plan is to add single family housing, condos, retail and office space to the area.
St. Chad's College...one of the existing buildings.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p277/BrannyMuffin/StChads.jpg
Original Site Plans...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p277/BrannyMuffin/1final_master_plan_11x17.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p277/BrannyMuffin/west_perspective1_11x17.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p277/BrannyMuffin/west_perspective2_11x17.jpg
Revised Site Plan...
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p277/BrannyMuffin/CityRegina-SitePlan-1-May16-2007.jpg
I'm thinking the final plans will be a cross between the two...I think I like the revised plan better, except for the buildings on the corner of College/Broad. SAHS says it takes away from what should be the "gateway" to the historical area and I tend to agree...
A link to architectural guidelines...might give you an idea of what the area will look like. http://www.regina.ca/pdfs/open-houses/diocese/info-package.pdf The two towers will have views of downtown to the north and Wascana Centre to the south.

All the images came from SAHS.
http://sahsonline.ca/

WaterlooInvestor
Jun 21, 2007, 11:30 AM
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alps
Jun 22, 2007, 11:34 PM
New farmer's market :P supposed to be done next year if it goes through (actually, I'm not sure if they even need it approved?):

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/market_perspective.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/halps00/planpage.jpg

Rnr_ss
Jun 23, 2007, 1:53 AM
Hotel 8 Floors Sherbrooke
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Sherbrooke University 8 floors (pavillon de recherche appliquée)
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hospital enlargement 6-8 floors (hôtel-dieux de Sherbrooke) (u/c)
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art center of Sherbrooke (u/c)
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WaterlooInvestor
Jun 26, 2007, 11:45 AM
UPDATE: Waterloo OKs BarrelYards vision
Region's largest development project to create brand new town in centre of city
TAMSIN MCMAHON
WATERLOO (Jun 26, 2007)

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Waterloo council gave the green light to the $250-million BarrelYards project, paving the way for the largest development project in the region.

Councillors unanimously approved changes to zoning requirements that will allow London-based Auburn Developments to build highrise luxury condominiums and apartments buildings, along with hotels, shops and offices in the old industrial heart of the city.

"We're creating a brand new town in the middle of our city," said Coun. Mark Whaley. "It's pretty marvellous."

Plans for the complex on about five hectares (12.7 acres) of the former Canbar lands at Erb Street and Father David Bauer Drive include:

-Two 25-storey condominium towers;

-Four apartment towers, two 21-storeys high, one 18 storeys high, one 12 storeys high;

-12 townhouses;

-10 lowrise mixed-use residential and retail units;

-Two hotels with 280 rooms;

-230,000 sq-ft of commercial office and retail space;

-2,250 parking spaces, most of which would be in a two-level underground garage.

The project was the first major development proposal approved by the new council, which earlier this year supported plans to redevelop a parking lot at Waterloo Town Square into a public square.

The city scrapped a height and density cap that would have restricted the apartment buildings and condominiums to no higher than seven storeys.

Instead, the developer is planning several highrise buildings along Father David Bauer Drive.

Yesterday's council approval signalled an end to a decade-long debate on the property between the city and residents who wanted to keep their low-rise leafy streets from becoming a crowded city core overrun with traffic.

In 1998, Canbar asked the city to change its zoning restrictions in order to turn the site, which once held its fibreglass and plastics manufacturing business, into a commercial and residential complex. The company hoped to sell the land to a developer that would build a series of highrise apartments, hotels and business space. But those plans were scuttled after residents balked at bringing Toronto-style development and traffic into the quiet suburban core.

The company scaled back its plans and Auburn Developments bought the site in 2005. The land had undergone an environmental cleanup and passed a 2003 Ministry of the Environment audit.

The BarrelYards is the largest project that Auburn has undertaken, said company president Jamie Crich. The company is also developing the Arrow Lofts in Kitchener.

Plans for the project were scaled up from original concept, which was for 750 apartments and condos in mostly low-rise buildings, a 120-room boutique hotel and mostly above-ground parking.

Construction could start as early as this fall and would take between four and seven years, depending on how strong the market is for the project, Crich said in an interview.

But he said he's confident there is strong interest in a massive development in Waterloo and that his company has been flooded with calls from interested residents and businesses.

"You can't do everything overnight, but there is definitely a good strong market here. The city's done a great job with their Uptown and people are responding. They want to live there."

Local companies have long been pushing for a downtown Waterloo hotel and conference centre. Yesterday, Crich said the company is proposing both a long- and short-stay hotel, and would push for conference facilities.

Auburn has been getting as many as five calls a day from interested hotel chains since putting out a request. The hotels would be built by the hotel chains themselves.

He wouldn't name the potential hotel operators, but Crich said they were "some five-star hotels. Great brands have expressed an interest in being here."

Both the city and the developer said they would ask the region to make some road improvements, such as traffic lights and left-turn lanes, to Erb Street, said consultant Chris Pidgeon of GSP Group.

The developer isn't expecting the region to support the proposed changes, Pidgeon said, but they are critical to building the hotels.

The city is still negotiating to share the cost of about $100,000 in improvements to Father David Bauer Drive, such as landscaped medium and bike lanes on both sides.

John Shortreed, who lives on neighbouring Euclid Avenue, was concerned that the city was approving zoning changes before knowing the region would support road improvements to protect residents and pedestrians from an onslaught of new traffic. "It's a huge impact on a very small neighbourhood," he said.

Mike Hudson, who also lives on Euclid, was concerned the proposed highrise condos and apartments would destroy the natural skyline of Waterloo Park. "We should consider what it is about Waterloo Park that makes it special and try and see if that can be preserved," he said. "I don't think it can be preserved in its current form with very large office towers immediately adjacent to the park."

The proposal doesn't include any affordable housing, but a staff report said the developer plans to look into any low-cost housing opportunities and that creating luxury units would free up affordable housing elsewhere in the city.

Uptown Coun. Ian McLean said the project shows Waterloo is a leader in intensifying in its downtown. "Because we're running out of land, we will continue to be a leader and show Kitchener and Cambridge and other parts of the region how to intensify in a way that respects our existing neighbourhoods and provides for our future," he said.

WaterlooInvestor
Jun 26, 2007, 11:47 AM
UPDATE: CENTRE BLOCK RENAISSANCE
Construction on first phase of developer's vision could start next year
TERRY PENDER
KITCHENER (Jun 26, 2007)

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Details of Andrin Limited's plans for downtown Kitchener's Centre Block were displayed at City Hall last night. The first phase, shown in this artist's rendition, includes a three-storey building along King Street, with some retail and living space.

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Kitchener city councillors Kelly Galloway and Berry Vrbanovic look over the scale model of the Kitchener downtown Centre Block redevelopment. Councillors and the public had their first look at the plans last night.

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This aerial view of the artist's conception shows a 12-storey condo tower fronting along King Street (on the left) and a water feature and courtyard (centre) and a 18-storey condo tower in phase two, in the upper right, at the corner of Young and Duke streets. Nearly the entire site will sit on top of three floors of underground parking.

Peter Smith is willing to bet about $90 million that a moribund chunk of city-owned land in the core can be transformed into a vital and thriving collection of condominiums, retail outlets, specially designed units for artists and a central courtyard.

Smith is the president of Brantford-based Andrin Limited, the developer who wants the nod from city council to redevelop the 2.6 acres of publicly owned land on the Centre Block, which is bounded by King, Young, Duke and Ontario streets.

Yesterday, the public consultations began when a detailed model of the proposed development was made public in the City Hall Rotunda. Dozens of curious citizens studied the model and illustrations around the room.

Smith's company converted the Kaufman building into 270 condominiums -- that project is worth nearly $40 million.

"We responded to this proposal call because of the success of Kaufman," Smith said in an interview prior to his presentation to city council yesterday evening.

The Kaufman project sold out in a matter of months and the first residents started moving in a few weeks ago.

The success of Kaufman "demonstrated to us that Kitchener is ready for downtown living," Smith said.

"We also feel positive about the marketplace. We wouldn't go into this if we didn't think we could market these units," Smith said.

"We feel pretty confident there is an appetite in downtown Kitchener for revitalization," Smith said.

In a perfect world, Smith said construction could begin in the fall of 2008 on the first phase, which includes a three-storey building along King Street with some retail and live-work units for artists. Behind that will be a condo tower with 12 floors and the underground-parking garage. That first phase will have 156 units.

"While we are doing that we would market phase two, and our plan on phase two is to start that roughly in 2009," Smith said.

The second phase includes an 18-storey condo tower and a three-storey building that wraps around both Young and Duke streets.

The second phase includes about 270 units.

"The third phase is the redevelopment of the Mayfair Hotel, and the building next door and we see that roughly in the 2011 time frame," Smith said.

"So basically, we are looking at five to six years for total build out," Smith said.

The units will sell for about $300-per-square foot.

That compares with about $270-a-square foot for the last units sold at the Kaufman Lofts.

"So if you said a unit had 600-square-feet, that would be $180,000," Smith said.

"It won't be cheap, and obviously we have to respect what the marketplace can afford," Smith said.

Andrin Limited has hired Quadrangle Architects of Toronto to design the new Centre Block.

That's the same architectural firm that did the Kaufman Lofts, and has worked on several signature buildings in downtown Toronto, including the St. James Condominiums, the Candy Lofts, the Chocolate Factory Lofts and the CHUM-TV building.

For about seven years, Centre Block has been little more than a litter-strewn parking lot.

It cost the city about $9.1 million to assemble the land, buy several buildings and compensate owners for the loss of their businesses.

Public consultations will run until Aug. 3, and then the developer, architect and the city's selection committee will refine the design before coming back to city council this fall for final approval.

Rick Haldenby, the director of the University of Waterloo's school of architecture sits on the committee that will make a final recommendation to the city this fall on whether to proceed with the development.

"I think it's a pretty successful and intelligent-looking project," Haldenby said of the proposed design.

Both the developer and the architects have already demonstrated they are willing to incorporate suggested changes to their design, Haldenby said.

"It's an urban block, and I've thought all along the right way to handle it is to build out to the streets and create a space in the middle of the block," Haldenby said.

The two condo towers have features that reference the award-winning design at the City Hall on the next block.

"The towers are articulated forms, they are not just blobs or rectangular blocks, and they have a kind of conversation with the City Hall, which I think is quite thoughtful and clever," Haldenby said.

Les Klein is one of the principals at Quadrangle Architects.

"It's a solid approach to all the things the city has set out as principles, and that we heartily endorse -- the notion of creating streets that are pedestrian friendly, supporting the fabric, vocabulary and life along King Street," Klein said.

Klein said everyone the team spoke to believes the time has come for a boutique hotel in the old Mayfair building.

Klein said there will be 250 parking spaces for the public on the first level of the underground garage.

The two floors below that will have 500 parking spaces for the condo owners.

"I think, for us, the most important thing is the citizens of Kitchener feel it is their project as well," Klein said.

"Its success is dependent on the people of Kitchener embracing not only the commercial value, but the civic value we are hoping to inculcate in this project," Klein said.

Glenn Woolner is a Kitchener resident with a long-standing interest in the redevelopment of Centre Block, and the intensification of the downtown.

"I think my first impressions are very positive," Woolner said.

Thomas Seebohm, who teaches at the University of Waterloo school of architecture, was equally impressed with what he saw last evening.

"I like the fact the tall buildings are not just boxes, but they have style," Seebohm said.

"Overall, I'm quite impressed with how it's going to look and how it's going to work," Seebohm said.

In the centre of the block, a courtyard-park with a water feature will be built. Pedestrians will get into this through a grand staircase and gallery off King Street.

Off of Young Street, there will be a covered staircase leading into the courtyard, and from Duke Street, people will be able to walk through a short tunnel into the heart of the development.

"It will be an asset for the people living there, and as an oasis in the city," Seebohm said.

If yesterday's reaction to the model is any indication there will be little or no opposition among city councillors when a vote is held in a few months.

The block is located in Coun. John Smola's ward.

"It's exactly what we need in the downtown, that's what we are trying to do -- get more residential," Smola said.

"What I've seen so far is exactly what the whole plan for the downtown is about," Smola said.

Added Coun. Kelly Galloway: "I think the new proposal for Centre Block is great. I think it incorporates a lot of wonderful aspects that will improve the downtown."

Galloway particularly likes the rooftop gardens that will go on some of the buildings.

John MacDonald is a local architect who listened carefully to the developer's presentation to city council after studying the model.

"I'm a little disappointed at the scale of the retail associated with it, there is only about 7,000 square feet of retail," MacDonald said.

MacDonald was one of the few wondering about the financing behind the development.

The city has already spent $9.1 million on the project. It spent more to demolish the historic Forsyth factory and build a parking lot in its place.

Earlier, the city was going to transfer ownership of the land and buildings to a developer who agreed to build an underground-parking garage on the site with some public spots.

At this point, it's not known if the city will transfer ownership of the land in exchange for the parking spots, or if city council will buy or lease the spaces.

"My understanding is it may not be clear at this point what the financial deal is," MacDonald said.

"What exactly is the deal here?" MacDonald said.

"We want to get public opinion at this point, but do we have all the information?" MacDonald said.

After listening to the developer's presentation Coun. John Gazzola had finances on his mind as well.

Gazzola wanted to know if the details of the financing would be made public during the public consultations.

Rod Reiger, the city's director of economic development, said negotiations between the developer and city will be held in August to reach an agreement on the financials.

"We will be bringing that information to council in the fall," Reiger said.

WaterlooInvestor
Jun 26, 2007, 11:49 AM
http://www.kitchener.ca/centreblock/

http://www.kitchener.ca/images/centre_block_Elevation.jpg

http://www.kitchener.ca/images/centre_block_Board5_Courtyard.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/AndrewEH/CentreBlockProposalJune252007.jpg

WhipperSnapper
Jun 27, 2007, 2:19 AM
MARS 2 in Toronto

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/mark3333/mars2.jpg

23 storeys, 900000sqft of biotech space

Wooster
Jul 1, 2007, 12:47 AM
^That is very cool

Condo/office/cultural proposal in Calgary. Designed by a calgary forumer.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7953/jacobsladder01lt5.jpg


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7291/jacobsladder02ba6.jpg

It The office space is primarily for non-profits similar to the existing brown office building you see there. There is also a hard landscaped courtyard between the buildings in the middle of the block. It looks really cool. 39 and 29 storey condos. 17 storey office. There will also be a cultural building east of the office building.

There was also news today to "Look for an announcement shortly of a major international architect designing a new condo in Calgary." According to an column in the Calgary Herald. Look forward to seeing what it will be. :tup:

vid
Jul 1, 2007, 12:59 AM
"Look for an announcement shortly of a major international architect designing a new condo in Calgary."

I'm putting my money on Calatrava. :yes:

WhipperSnapper
Jul 1, 2007, 6:03 AM
There was also news today to "Look for an announcement shortly of a major international architect designing a new condo in Calgary." According to an column in the Calgary Herald. Look forward to seeing what it will be.

I'd love for it to be the 'kind child' just to read Fury's reaction


http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7953/jacobsladder01lt5.jpg

those are great - no unnecessary doodads complicating the design with a distinctive Calgary look (IMO) at the crown

The Geographer
Jul 1, 2007, 6:11 AM
Here's an idea of a single family home in the 300's. You really need to spend 500+ for an executive home in Waterloo Region. MLS®: 631546, $354,900, 2200 sqft
http://pictures.mls.ca/mls/reb16/highres/6/631546_1.jpg

That is a lot of house compared to what you would get in Calgary.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5218/ghettohousezf6.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ghettohousezf6.jpg)

WhipperSnapper
Jul 1, 2007, 6:24 AM
"Look for an announcement shortly of a major international architect designing a new condo in Calgary."

I'm putting my money on Calatrava.

not impossible but a long shot considering how Ryerson and NIMBYs fuck around with him and how he was last seen running to the airport ranting and raving to never step foot in Canada again

Hopefully the author doesn't mean a Ziedler or a HOK (Canada) or an Erickson

Rusty van Reddick
Jul 1, 2007, 6:39 AM
I'd love for it to be the 'kind child' just to read Fury's reaction

"Dear child," not "kind child."

shappy
Jul 1, 2007, 3:14 PM
MARS 2 in Toronto

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/mark3333/mars2.jpg

23 storeys, 900000sqft of biotech space

very nice!

WhipperSnapper
Jul 1, 2007, 4:09 PM
"Dear child," not "kind child."

its all the same - kind just sounded better

Wooster
Jul 2, 2007, 6:01 PM
not impossible but a long shot considering how Ryerson and NIMBYs fuck around with him and how he was last seen running to the airport ranting and raving to never step foot in Canada again



It would be unfortunate for him to judge all of canada based on one community/project in one city.

Beltline is a place very friendly to development, experimentation, and density. Probably the least NIMBYish community imaginable. It is fertile ground for innovation.

someone123
Jul 4, 2007, 1:34 AM
Phase II of the Brewery Market proposal in Halifax was re-introduced to council today. The original version included a taller tower and was torpedoed by a couple of councillors in 2003.

http://www.pbase.com/image/81624973/original.jpg

The building on the right has already been constructed. The one behind is the Maritime Centre. In the middle of the block is the Keiths brewery, built in 1820. There are a number of older buildings around this site, which could mean trouble.

The proposal would also include the restoration of Keith Hall:

http://www.pbase.com/halifaxphoto/image/44428784/medium.jpg

Boris2k7
Jul 4, 2007, 4:00 AM
This one was leaked back last year in the Calgary Construction Thread and was promptly taken off at the request of the architect. Just found out today it was in a presentation by Colliers last November... so I am posting the info from that report.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1063/fcc2renqn2.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3436/fcc2ren01ia0.jpg

While I don't think I can reveal the true height of the building, expect it to be in Canada's top ten tallest U/C. In the top five actually.

Boris2k7
Jul 4, 2007, 4:08 AM
"Look for an announcement shortly of a major international architect designing a new condo in Calgary."

I'm putting my money on Calatrava. :yes:

I'm putting my money on Alsop, he was here doing an art auction a few weeks back... a presentation which I attended.

someone123
Jul 4, 2007, 1:34 PM
Here is a little rendering of the presently underdeveloped Southern/"lower" end of the downtown area (original photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bencnh/578000874/):

http://www.pbase.com/halifaxphoto/image/81652156/original.jpg

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
Jul 5, 2007, 1:36 AM
Not sure what to think of this one, a little to PoMo for me, maybe it's just the colour choice. It might also be the poor base or that boxy feature on the upper left. I'm sure this will see a design change before it goes any further.


http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1063/fcc2renqn2.jpg

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
Jul 5, 2007, 1:37 AM
Not sure what to think of this one, a little to PoMo for me, maybe it's just the colour choice. It might also be the poor base or that boxy feature on the upper left. I'm sure this will see a design change before it goes any further.


Cool scoop none the less.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1063/fcc2renqn2.jpg

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
Jul 14, 2007, 9:18 PM
An application for a 46 storey mixed use tower has been submitted to the city of Toronto for 18 Lower Jarvis.

No blueprints yet.

Here is an overview of land availability.
Legend

Red - 18 Lower Jarvis
Yellow- Available Parking lots
Green - Municiple Works lot

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1287/819314223_5df94442fe_o.jpg


And a quick mock up, with park thrown in :) though it would be a great space for a park.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1284/819314185_b0f25aac83_o.jpg

The Great Scaper
Jul 15, 2007, 7:46 PM
Check out this crazy development. It's been approved and the sites under excavation. It's in one of Victoria's Suburbs. On top of a mountain. Total units 1000 in four towers.

The photo is of the 27 story model which is the shortest of the four towers.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4475/newpaperarticles005jc9.jpg

The Great Scaper
Jul 15, 2007, 7:52 PM
Also a 12 story office tower is in Jeperody because it's being proposed to close to this old church in Old Town Victoria. Though right across the street an 18 story residential building is going up.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1809/newpaperarticles010iu2.jpg

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
Jul 17, 2007, 2:23 AM
482ft :tup:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1401/824249966_a2554c64c8_o.jpg

Canuck
Jul 24, 2007, 3:13 PM
I posted the first half of this list in the Construction thread http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=124156&page=11, here's the remainder of the list for the proposal thread. This list is only for towers in Toronto/GTA that are over 400 feet.

All of the pictures link to a full size render.


Sales

1) Trump International - 925 ft. 57 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=656)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Trump_2.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Trump_2.jpg)


2) Shangri-La - 704 ft. 65 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=640)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Shangri-La_2.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Shangri-La_2.jpg)


3) Four Seasons Hotel [Four Seasons] - Approx 686 ft. 55 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=648)
Tower on the right
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Four_Seasons_2.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Four_Seasons_2.jpg)


4) The L Tower [Hummingbird Centre] - 673 ft. 57 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=682)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/L_Tower.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/L_Tower.jpg)


5) Burano [The Murano] - 518 ft. 48 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=657)
[Photo taken by Rapid of www.Skyscrapercity.com]
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Burano_courtesy_of_Rapid_of_SSC.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Burano_courtesy_of_Rapid_of_SSC.jpg)


6) Clear Spirit Living Tower II [Clear Spirit Living] - 433 ft. 40 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=698)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Clear_Spirit_2.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Clear_Spirit_2.jpg)



Pre-Sales

1) 1 Bloor East - 732 ft. - 76 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=634)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/1_Bloor_East_New_2.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/1_Bloor_East_New_2.jpg)


2) Clear Spirit Living Tower I [Clear Spirit Living] - 509 ft. 48 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=698)
Tower on the right
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Pure_Sprit_-_Tower_One.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Pure_Sprit_-_Tower_One.jpg)


3) Couture - HEIGHT NEEDED - ~44 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=935)
[No rendering]


4) Solaris [MetroGate] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 40 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=700)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Solaris.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Solaris.jpg)


5) Solaris II [MetroGate] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 40 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=700)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Metrogate_2.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Metrogate_2.jpg)



Approved Proposals

1) Signature Tower [CityPlace] - 714 ft. 69 floors
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Signature.jpg (http://chartattack.com/ut/Signature.jpg)


2) Bay-Adelaide Centre East Tower [Bay-Adelaide Centre] - 590 ft. 43 floors
[Tower on the left - approximate size shown]
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Bay-Adelaide_Centre_Tower_II.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Bay-Adelaide_Centre_Tower_II.jpg)



Proposals Not Yet Approved

1) 300 Front Street West - 600 ft. 58 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=5560)
[No rendering]


2) 50 St. Joseph Street Tower I [St. Mike's Parking Lot] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 55 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=729)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/St._Mikes_2.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/St._Mikes_2.jpg)


3) Hullmark Centre - 538 ft. 45 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=859)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Hullmark_Centre.jpg (http://chartattack.com/ut/Hullmark_Centre.jpg)


4) 40 Wellesley - 533 ft. 44 floors
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/40_Wellesley.jpg (http://chartattack.com/ut/40_Wellesley.jpg)


5) Two City Hall [One City Hall Condominiums] - 522 ft. 50 floors
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Two_City_Hall.JPG (http://chartattack.com/ut/Two_City_Hall.JPG.jpg)


6) *Parkside Village - Tower I [Parkside Village] - 505 ft. 50 floors
[No rendering]


7) 18 Lower Jarvis - 476 ft. 46 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=6021)
[No rendering]


8) *Parkside Village - Tower II [Parkside Village] - 456 ft. 45 floors
[No rendering]


9) *Parkside Village - Tower III [Parkside Village] - 456 ft. 45 floors
[No rendering]


10) 50 St. Joseph Street Tower II [St. Mike's Parking Lot] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 45 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=729)
Tower on the left
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/St._Mikes.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/St._Mikes.jpg)


11) 1501 Yonge Street - Tower I - 417 ft. 39 floors
Tower in the middle
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/1501_Yonge_Street.JPG (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/1501_Yonge_Street.JPG)


12) *Parkside Village - Tower IV [Parkside Village] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 40 floors
[No rendering]


13) *Parkside Village - Tower V [Parkside Village] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 40 floors
[No rendering]



Rejected Proposals (Appealing)

1) Aura [RoCP] - 787 ft. 75 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=678)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Aura.JPG (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Aura.JPG)



Proposed Office Towers

1) Richmond-Adelaide Centre [Richmond-Adelaide Centre] - 595 ft. 41 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=1010)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Richmond-Adelaide.jpg (http://chartattack.com/ut/Richmond-Adelaide.jpg)


2) 20 York Street/151 Front Street/7 Station Street - 576 ft. 36 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=765)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/151_Front_Street_3.jpg (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/151_Front_Street_3.jpg)


3) 18 York - HEIGHT NEEDED - 26 floors (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=636)
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/18_York.JPG (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/18_York.JPG)



Visions

1) Manulife Tower ~1,000 ft. (as reported by V of E on UrbanToronto) (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=5335)
[No rendering]


2) 426 University - 50 floors (as reported by V of E on UrbanToronto) (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=5335)
[No rendering]


3) Future Office Tower 1 (as reported by V of E on UrbanToronto) (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=5335)
[No rendering]


4) Future Office Tower 2 (as reported by V of E on UrbanToronto) (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=5335)
[No rendering]


5-7) "Toronto Landmark" by Bazis International - 3 Towers
http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/Thumbs/Toronto_Landmark.JPG (http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Toronto_Landmark.JPG)

caltrane74
Jul 24, 2007, 9:25 PM
good work!!

Wooster
Jul 24, 2007, 11:24 PM
An early sketch of a big project on 10th ave in Calgary by Qualex-Landmark (of Stella/Nova/Luna) to be designed by Foad Rafii.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2034/bootyl0.jpg

Calgarian
Jul 24, 2007, 11:39 PM
I would like to see these look a little more different from each other, I hate the "Calgary Twin" scheme.

aastra
Jul 24, 2007, 11:46 PM
What's that one at the far left of the Halifax pic?

b13
Jul 25, 2007, 1:29 AM
^ OMG those towers look like Trump Toronto!!!! especially the tall one!

Boris2k7
Jul 25, 2007, 2:03 AM
Here... got rid of the words and cropped a bit. Just a bit nicer for posting. :)

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5817/abootskv1.png

WhipperSnapper
Jul 25, 2007, 3:13 AM
1) Richmond-Adelaide Centre [Richmond-Adelaide Centre] - 595 ft. 41 floors


this one is dead - concourse is going to be restored as residential instead of demolished

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5817/abootskv1.png

possible new tallest following in Petronas' footsteps?

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
Jul 25, 2007, 3:42 AM
^ OMG those towers look like Trump Toronto!!!! especially the tall one!

I was gonna say that! I like it still :)

Canuck
Jul 25, 2007, 3:45 AM
this one is dead - concourse is going to be restored as residential instead of demolished
I was aware of the Concourse is being saved, but is the office proposal for that block still going ahead, be it in a modified form?

WhipperSnapper
Jul 25, 2007, 3:57 AM
but is the office proposal for that block still going ahead, be it in a modified form?


I imagine so but with a different design and dimensions

3madjack
Jul 26, 2007, 6:17 PM
Cresford is planning on building a 29 story condo at the SW corner of Yonge and Merton Streets (Merton Yonge Condominiums) and I am happy to report that there is now a re-zoning notice on the premises.

It's not a tall one at 29 floors but the views south facing should be quite awesome because it will overlook Mount Pleasant Cemetery with nothing in sight until you hit Yonge and St. Clair.

I didn't get a chance to get the file number. Anyone have an idea of what this will look like? Any info, most appreciated.



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