Grumpy
06-03-2007, 06:56 PM
Look at this picture and tell me why ,cause I don't have a clue :shrug:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/528142736_4aac68c11e_b.jpg
jcchii
06-03-2007, 07:02 PM
is this a jedi mind trick?
Minato Ku
06-03-2007, 07:14 PM
Wrong a lot of Parisian houses has tiles. :)
Don't forget that less than 20% of Parisian houses are haussmannian
Scroll >>>>>>>>>>
http://earthworm.online.fr/photos/parisis/panoramique_paris.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/104/289151343_3b1eb4fa16_b.jpg
http://derouault.net/IMG/jpg/11_avril_02_ref_no_6.jpg
http://derouault.net/IMG/jpg/2_juillet_99_ref_no_5.jpg
But it is right, haussmanian and modern building don't have titles.
I don't know why?
Minato Ku
06-03-2007, 07:18 PM
It maybe because zinc are more expensive than tiles.
The old houses with tiles in inner suburbs was worker house (Now their prices are over the million :D )
fflint
06-03-2007, 08:18 PM
Even in the specified photograph I see tiles on rooftops. WTF?
BnaBreaker
06-03-2007, 09:16 PM
Wang Chung confused.
BTinSF
06-03-2007, 10:53 PM
Metal roofs, while they've certainly been around a very long time, are becoming quite popular even in the US (and even in places where "tin roofs" used to be considered very low class). In Florida these days many very upscale houses are being built with metal roofs because they are more hurricane resistant and many people, including my sister, who lost a roof to the 2005 hurricane season, are replacing tile or shingle roofs with metal. I know hurricanes aren't the issue in Paris, but metal is just a very sensible type of roof and I'm no more surprised that they chose it than that they would chose shingles or tile.
ardecila
06-03-2007, 11:51 PM
BT - we are actually converting to standing-seam metal roofing for looks. You gotta admit, anything looks better than asphalt shingles, which are pretty much ubiquitous here in Chicagoland.
Our house's original, oldest roof is cedar shake, but we paid for an addition to be built, and we (oops) forgot to ask what roof material the architect had chosen. After the builder gave us asphalt shingles as per the plan, we decided something had to be done, so we are now ordering some standing-seam to be placed on the addition. I'm interested to see how it will look next to a cedar-shake roof.
Also... ceramic tiles are really a Mediterranean thing, aren't they? I can't picture them in a more Northern European city like Paris. They're INCREDIBLY rare here in the North of the US.
BTinSF
06-04-2007, 12:31 AM
Also... ceramic tiles are really a Mediterranean thing, aren't they? I can't picture them in a more Northern European city like Paris. They're INCREDIBLY rare here in the North of the US.
But tile is practically ubiquitous on houses with pitched roofs (quite a few have flat roofs) in Tucson. I wouldn't say they are so much Mediterranean as hot-climate--the sun can beat on them for decades and it doesn't hurt them. Being heavy, though, the underlying roof structure has to be beefy. You can substitute metal on almost any pitched roof as far as I know.
SHiRO
06-04-2007, 12:32 AM
No, ceramic tiles are very much a Northern European thing also.
staff
06-04-2007, 12:54 AM
ceramic tiles are really a Mediterranean thing, aren't they? I can't picture them in a more Northern European city like Paris.
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/8219/vidvinkelfx5.jpg
Via Chicago
06-04-2007, 01:20 AM
Theres a large number of bungalows in my area that have clay roofs.
http://www.berwyninformer.com/Images/Tour%20Homes%20Exteriors/460x460%20Frames/Homes_Bungalow1.jpg
http://www.berwyninformer.com/Images/Tour%20Homes%20Exteriors/460x460%20Frames/Homes_Bungalow3.jpg
http://www.berwyninformer.com/Images/Tour%20Homes%20Exteriors/460x460%20Frames/Homes_Bungalow4.jpg
http://www.berwyninformer.com/Images/Tour%20Homes%20Exteriors/460x460%20Frames/Homes_Super_Bungalow1.jpg
http://www.berwyninformer.com/Images/Tour%20Homes%20Exteriors/460x460%20Frames/Homes_Super_Bungalow2.jpg
They may be pricey, but they'll last you 80-100 years.
ardecila
06-04-2007, 03:46 AM
Via - you get a different perspective living in the suburbs for 15 years.
The house in which I spent the first 7 years of my life in Beverly had a tile roof. Pretty much every single park fieldhouse in the CPD system that was built prior to WWII has a tile roof. I didn't say they were unheard of in Chicagoland, just very rare, especially in anything built after WWII.
Oh, and I should probably end this discussion and get back on topic. I've noticed that Chicago forumers tend to assimilate a large number of threads on this board that originally had nothing to do with Chicago. Probably because there are so many of us.
tunnelbana
06-04-2007, 06:26 AM
I am not an expert in roofing, but based on brief internet research, here is my theory:
Ceramic tiles gained popularity because they are more resistant to rot and fire than wood. The fire point specifically, probably is why they are so popular in dense older cities.
The problem with tiles is that they are porous so extensive exposure to moisture and freeze-thaw cycles (Northern Europe, incl. Paris) breaks them down ever time. The cost of replacing tiles on large buildings adds up, so a more durable alternative becomes desirable. Metal roofing, at least of the style photographed below, is probable more expensive than tile to install but much more weather-resistant. At least in Sweden, tiles are mostly used on houses, while metal roofs are used on larger urban buildings and grand country estates.
http://www.brodyaga.ru/images/Sweden/Stockholm%206.jpg
Architecturally, the metal roofs look pretty damn good, too.
Parisians certainly had money when building the city, and to resist the damp without costly maintenance, for a long time metal roofs were probably the most cost-effective choice.
LMich
06-04-2007, 06:41 AM
Tunnelbanana,
Paris rarely sees snow or extremely cold temperatures, at least nothing more than trace amounts. The climate is rather temperate and stable. I guess the climate is pretty moist, though. So, all that said I'm really not sure how much climate, in this case has much to do with it. Perhaps someone more versed in climatology could make a pretty good guess at this. What I do know is that it can't be grouped with most Northern European cities in terms of climate, though.
BTinSF
06-04-2007, 07:57 AM
Nevertheless, in the US I'll stick with what I said. I haven't seen anywhere in the northern US where even inexpensive tract houses are currently being built with tile roofs like they are in the southwest. And the reason is that tile can take incessant sun and heat like no other material suitable for a pitched roof (the alternative is what my house has: a flat roof coated with a material that reflects most solar radiation--mine is supposed to reflect 98%).
Grumpy
09-20-2007, 08:01 AM
But it is right, haussmanian and modern building don't have titles.I don't know why?
Who does know ? :shrug:
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