[Vicelord John]

eh, you're right. I always think of the two as the same thing.

[HX_Guy]

Taylor St. / ASU dorms streetscape:

http://campus.asu.edu/files/Taylor_Place_Retail.jpg

[THannay]

Taylor St. / ASU dorms streetscape:

http://campus.asu.edu/files/Taylor_Place_Retail.jpg


That FedEx guy is struggling.

[Don B.]

Why are the people in these renderings partly invisible?

--don

[PHX31]

They're ghosts.

[JAHOPL]

Two words: Distance-learning.

They're students, but they're not really there, like Rio Salado's many on-line students in our community college district.

It makes it look cooler from an artistic standpoint?

[gymratmanaz]

It is a school for Mutants - X-Men!

OR

The students of ASU's past and future. Only the Fed X guy and the blue vested guy in the back middle are real.

I hope the Fed X guy is delivering furnature and indoor decor. The is no freakin furnature in this busy place!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Don B.]

They're ghosts.

Ghosts of Pedestrians Past, in Downtown Phoenix? :D

Apologies to Charles Dickens, of course.

--don

[JAHOPL]

Nearly every room in the Cronkite journalism building is up for naming-rights for a minimum of $10,000. A list of at least 50 rooms and spaces accompanied this article:

Your name on a new ASU building: $15 million
azcentral.com

"For $15 million, you could place your name on the new 223,000-square-foot building that will house the ASU Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication.

It's set to relocate to downtown Phoenix this fall as one of the most technologically advanced media schools in the country. It's also viewed as key to downtown's rebirth.

Half a million bucks gets you naming rights to the library/student research center. For $10,000, you could put your name on an editing bay.

The school began its naming campaign this spring and has published a price and availability list.

Naming rights are certainly nothing new in higher education, but this effort is unique, said Christopher Callahan, the school's dean. (Naming rights to the dean's office cost $50,000).

"Typically when you have a naming program for a building, it's to pay for the building, the bricks and the mortar," he told The Buzz. "At ASU, we are in this wonderful position of being part of the city bond."

In 2006, Phoenix voters approved a $223.million bond issue that paid for the $71 million building.

"We get to put (the money) into programs for students, equipment, faculty, some of the immersion programs," Callahan said.

Are there any companies or institutions that would be prohibited from naming rights, because, well, it might be awkward?

For example, there might be eyebrows raised at a possible Hooters Student Services Suite ($250,000) or the Pink Taco faculty/staff lounge ($200,000).

"We don't have any set policies," Callahan said. "If there was a problem or a concern about something or someone, we would certainly address that."

[JAHOPL]

Actually, there's 145 room names up for sale, including 37 faculty offices and 19 tv editing bays. I wonder if University of Phoenix has any money left over from the football stadium's naming right for the journalism building name? I can see it now - the University of Phoenix Journalism Building.

Naming Opportunity (Available) - Amount - Location

Building (1) $15,000,000
Public Forum (1) $2,500,000 2nd floor
Broadcast Center (1) $2,000,000 6th floor
Theater (1) $1,000,000 2nd floor
Cronkite News Service Multimedia Newsroom (1) - $500,000 - 2nd floor
Marguerite and Jack Clifford Gallery - NAMED - 2nd floor
Library/Student Research Center (1) - $500,000 - 2nd floor
NewsWatch TV Newsroom (1) - $500,000 - 6th floor
Radio Newsroom (1) $500,000 3rd floor
Sony Instructional TV Studio NAMED 6th floor
Large Conference Room $400,000 4th floor
The Gannett New Media Innovation Lab Suite NAMED 2nd floor
Center for Digital Media Entrepreneurship Suite (1) $250,000 2nd floor
Donald W. Reynolds Leadership Office Suite NAMED 3rd floor
Student Services Suite (1) $250,000 2nd floor
TV Digital-Editing Complex (1) $250,000 6th floor
The azcentral.com Classroom (1 large classroom remaining) NAMED 2nd floor
Faculty/Staff Lounge and Terrace Suite (1) $200,000 4th floor
NewsWatch TV Control Room (1) $200,000 6th floor
Student Media Suite (1) $200,000 4th floor
Seminar Room 1 (1) $150,000 4th floor
Teaching TV Control Room (1) $150,000 6th floor
Classroom (1) $100,000 3rd floor
Computer News Labs (6) $100,000 3rd floor
Radio Studio (1) $100,000 3rd floor
Weather Central Terrace NAMED 6th floor
Leadership Suite Conference Room (1) $75,000 3rd floor
Radio Control Room (1) $75,000 3rd floor
Seminar Room 2 (1) $75,000 3rd floor
Thomson Grass Valley TV Engineering Suite NAMED 6th floor
Christine Devine Multimedia Newsroom Conference Room NAMED 2nd floor
Dean's Office (1) $50,000 3rd floor
Faculty Conference Room (1) $50,000 3rd floor
Interview Conference Room (1) $50,000 2nd floor
Public Relations Conference Room $50,000 2nd floor
TV Conference Room (1) $50,000 6th floor
Autoscript TV Equipment Room NAMED 6th floor
Green Room (1) $35,000 6th floor
Administrative Deans and Directors'Offices (7) $30,000 2nd and 3rd floors
Clear-Com Communication Office (for Cronkite News Service TV Director) NAMED 2nd floor
Cronkite News Service Print Director's Office (1) $30,000 2nd floor
Digital Media Entrepreneurship Director's Office (1) $30,000 2nd floor
KNXV-TV/Scripps Howard Foundation Office (for TV News Director) NAMED 6th floor
New Media Innovation Lab Director's Office (1) $30,000 2nd floor
Production Manager's Office (1) $30,000 6th floor
Public Relations Director's Office (1) $30,000 2nd floor
Radio Director's Office (1) $30,000 3rd floor
Student Media Director's Office (1) $30,000 4th floor
Faculty Offices (37) $25,000 3rd and 4th floors
Advisers and Other Administrative Offices (10) $20,000 2nd and 3rd floors
Faculty Adjunct Offices (6) $20,000 3rd and 4th floors
Cronkite News Service Editing Bays (5) $10,000 2nd floor
Radio Editing Bays (9) $10,000 3rd floor
TV Editing Bays (19) $10,000 6th floor

[HX_Guy]

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/06/20/20080620phx-cronkite0621.html

A couple cool things about the Cronkite Building...

One: It's $500,000 under budget. :D

Two: "Other high-tech finishes: A news ticker that will go on the outside of the building near Central Avenue and Taylor Street, said Kent Bosworth, a project director for the builder, Sundt Construction Inc.

[Vicelord John]

lets all chip in and buy the naming rights to the tv editing bays.

we can call them the super awesome #1 editing bays

and a news ticker on taylor and central? Whos gonna look at it? this isn't times square.

[kevininlb]

Sounds cool. Hopefully, there will be enough students walking around soon who will glance up and see the news. Maybe...

[HX_Guy]

Or people sitting at the Civic Space Park...that is, if the ticker is large enough to be seen from a bit further away.

[gymratmanaz]

and the passing light rail paseengers will see it too.

[scottkag]

Or people sitting at the Civic Space Park...that is, if the ticker is large enough to be seen from a bit further away.

I thought I read somewhere that it was going to be called John Vandercook park?

Couldn't they use the extra $500K to put something really cool out there? Laser defense perimeter? Holographic waterfront? A real big shiny statue of Vandercook?

[tempedude]

Isn't there some type of public art going to be mounted on the Cronkite building also? I forget what exactly it is...but I seem to recall it had something to do with the wind/air movement.

[gymratmanaz]

The wind art is in the park across the street. BUT I do recall some sort of light art on the Cronkite building.....anyone else recall this???

[Vicelord John]

Laser defense perimeter?

screw the statue of me... I vote for this ^^^

[HX_Guy]

Looking at a couple of pictures, I'm guessing the news ticker will go above the main entrance and have an L shape to it. It looks like there are brackets already installed as well as wires for data/electricity.

http://nitnelav.com/DTMay2208/37.jpg

http://nitnelav.com/DTMay2208/25.jpg

[gymratmanaz]

I agree. The other wires on the orange part are probably for a light up ASU sign.

[gymratmanaz]

Although wouldn't it be cool to have the hews scroll across the window screens on the west side of windows?

[HX_Guy]

I was thinking the exact same thing, but you have to remember that the west facing part of the building will have retail/restaurants so they will probably have signage themselves. Besides, it does make sense to have it right above the entrance to the Cronkite School.

[gymratmanaz]

True, and it is semi shielded from rain......just would be cool with a bigger scroll.

Have you stopped by the park...it is getting really cool each day, more gets done....I have so many questions...

[HX_Guy]

Nope, haven't stopped by downtown since last Friday and may not for another week or so, it's too damn hot to be outside walking around. I'm actually wanting to go back and get some more skyline pictures...a restaurant owner I know at Westgate wants to buy some of my photos, blow them up, and put them on the walls of his restaurant. :D

[tempedude]

The wind art is in the park across the street. BUT I do recall some sort of light art on the Cronkite building...

Yeah thats right...it is supposed to be some sort of light art on the building. Thanks. And yep...I already knew about the floating jellyfish uterus wind art thingy at the park. LOL J/K (Actually, its going to look cool IMHO)

[gymratmanaz]

Anyone know of the light art that is to go on the Cronkite Building?

[loftlovr]

Nope, haven't stopped by downtown since last Friday and may not for another week or so, it's too damn hot to be outside walking around. I'm actually wanting to go back and get some more skyline pictures...a restaurant owner I know at Westgate wants to buy some of my photos, blow them up, and put them on the walls of his restaurant. :D

You're so cocky now!
(kidding)

[Luke Skyscraper]

Has anyone seen any progress on the new downtown nursing school? I assume excavation must be well under way by now?

[gymratmanaz]

Slow but they are working on the Nursing Building. Nothing major though.

[JAHOPL]

Journalism School Gets Downtown Home
ASU's Cronkite School To Move Into $71 Million, State-of-the-Art Facility
by Jahna Berry - Jun. 25, 2008 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic

Next month, Arizona State University's journalism school will move into a sleek, six-story bronze cube on Central Avenue.

The $71 million building will raise the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication's national profile and put a big-city stamp on ASU's downtown Phoenix campus, university officials said.

The move will add about 1,400 students to the Phoenix campus. About 3,400 students were talking classes downtown last fall, according to university figures.

The Cronkite School joins other journalism schools in investing in upgrades to help students marry shoe-leather reporting and digital technology, said Sara Quinn, a faculty member at the St. Petersburg, Fla.-based Poynter Institute for Media Studies.

Ball State University in Muncie, Ind., for example, last year dedicated a new, $21 million journalism facility, Quinn said.

Northwestern and Michigan State universities have hired more staff with an eye for technology, she said.

"A lot of people are beefing up their programs," said Quinn, the co-director of a fellowship program for recent college graduates.

The basics - such as journalistic ethics and interviewing skills - are still important; but after graduation, "recruiters are looking to hire people with multimedia skills," Quinn said.

There is no ranking system for journalism programs - because vetting such schools is "totally subjective," Quinn said - so it's hard to say where the Cronkite School stands nationally.

But ASU officials say the upgrades will help move the journalism school to the head of the pack.

"The Cronkite building's design, space and technology will make it unparalleled in journalism education," said Christopher Callahan, the Cronkite School's dean, adding its journalism program is "one of the best two or three" in the United States.

The school offers bachelor's degrees in digital media, public relations, broadcast or print and master's degrees in mass communication.

Nearly 290 students graduated from the Cronkite School in the 2007-2008 academic year.

The new building is light-years ahead of the 1970s-era Stauffer Hall in Tempe, the school's home until this summer.

It will have 280 digital workstations for everything from Web production to digital video editing, two TV studios and an electronic news ticker outside, Callahan said.

The school's Tempe building only has a few computer labs, a tiny newsroom, a TV studio and basic classrooms, the dean and students said.

"Our old journalism building is kind of a dump," said Celeste Sepessy, 21, who will be a senior in the fall and who has interned at The Arizona Republic. "It will be nice to be in a building with new computers and upgraded equipment."

Journalism classes currently are taught all over the Tempe campus because Stauffer Hall doesn't have enough computers for students, said Sepessy, who hopes to work for a magazine when she graduates.

The only downside, Sepessy said, is that she will be on the road a lot: She still lives in Tempe, and her internship is in north Scottsdale.

Other students, including those with double majors, may be in the same boat this fall, she said.

The journalism school will share the Central Avenue building with Channel 8 and KBAQ, a classical-music radio station, said Deputy City Manager David Cavazos.

The building was funded by a $220 million, voter-approved bond. Phoenix owns it until it will transfer to ASU in 25 years, Cavazos said.

ASU wanted a distinctive look for the journalism school, because it's the first custom-built academic building on the downtown campus, said ASU planner Richard Stanley.

The other university buildings downtown were remodeled office buildings, he added.

"We wanted to put in place the notion that this was for an urban campus," said Stanley. "It's not just another office building."

The accordionlike folds and the shifting shades of brown on the outside of the building are a nod to a radio frequency's band, said Kent Bosworth, a project director for builder Sundt Construction Inc.

[HX_Guy]

The nursing building has started to rise...

http://nitnelav.com/DTJune252008/4.jpg

http://nitnelav.com/DTJune252008/5.jpg

[JAHOPL]

HX_Guy, how tall is the nursing building going to rise?

[HX_Guy]

Off the top of my head, I think it was 78'.

[gymratmanaz]

Yea, I think i hear 7 stories.

Wow they got the first beams up fast!!!!

[Vicelord John]

wow that came out of nowhere. I drove by monday night and it didn't look like anything was happening, all of a sudden there are two stories?

[kevininlb]

There's a pretty cool pic of the art piece going up in the civic park in today's Az Republic (sorry if this was posted in a different thread).

This thing is huge -- and the photo doesn't quite do the size justice -- it's massive in person.

It's so big that people will either love this or hate it. I can't imagine there being a middle ground. I'm hopeful but when I saw how big it is, my reaction was, "gulp."

[AZ KID]

So was that a love gulp or a hate gulp??

[kevininlb]

It was a gulp like "Oh my god, this better be awesome." It's so big that if it's ugly, it's going to be a huge eyesore. I don't think it will be but wow, it's big.

By the way, the photo is here: http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2008/06/30/20080630sculpture0630.html

[CANUC]

The artist has her own website and a few images of what the "Sky Bloom" will look like as well as other pieces she has done. However I'm not sure if "Sky Bloom" will be illuminated the way the similar sculpture is shown on the front page of her site.
http://www.echelman.com/

[andrewkfromaz]

I think it's hilarious that AZ Republic can carry a quote the Journalism school will be among the top in the nation when just a few years ago (when I was at ASU) it was facing losing its accreditation. I don't think any school can recover quite that quickly. Plus, a four-year degree to learn multimedia skills? No wonder our news sucks so bad....

[PHX31]

When was it ever facing losing accreditation? I graduated from ASU 5 years ago (not in journalism), but ever since I can remember it was doing well and ranked pretty high.

[gymratmanaz]

Andrewkfromaz......sucks so "badly"....not sucks so "bad" use ther adverb and not the adjective..... sure your degree is valid? hehehe Just joking.

[HX_Guy]

Can someone post the complete article? Thanks.

http://phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2008/06/30/story6.html

[JI5]

I'm a May '08 Cronkite School graduate..

The program was never at risk of losing accreditation. Not even close. What happened was: the school was warned that it did not have enough diversity on its staff, and that it had to take steps to diversify staff members or it could potentially be at risk in the future.

[kevininlb]

Andrewkfromaz......sucks so "badly"....not sucks so "bad" use ther adverb and not the adjective..... sure your degree is valid? hehehe Just joking.

Actually, it's "so badly sucks," to use the adverb correctly (or, sorry, to correctly use the adverb).

Anyway...

I don't know about being at risk a few years ago, but, for what this is worth, the journalism program is tough to get into and in the publishing world has a pretty great reputation.

[gymratmanaz]

well played Kevin....or played well!

[PhxSprawler]

I think it's hilarious that AZ Republic can carry a quote the Journalism school will be among the top in the nation when just a few years ago (when I was at ASU) it was facing losing its accreditation. I don't think any school can recover quite that quickly.

We should give credit to that chick from Gilbert on the Real World for the free advertising.

[andrewkfromaz]

All right, all right, thanks for setting me straight there guys. Eesh.

[gymratmanaz]

You're a good man Andrew!!!!

[IdahoZonie]

Hello all. This is my first post on the forum, but I have been a periodic lurker in the past. Every couple of months I write feature stories for Rocky Mountain Construction magazine, and my most recent stories focused on the ASU Downtown Campus construction — mainly the Cronkite building and the new housing towers. The articles are heavy on tech, since the magazine's subscribers are primarily people in the trade.

On this story and a previous one focused on the Sheraton Downtown, I came to this forum looking for ideas and angles I hadn't considered. The forum has been a valuable resource, and I hope to use it again on future stories.

I'm not sure what the protocol is, but I can provide a link to the online version of the stories if that is not a violation of the No-Commercial-Stuff clause I agreed to at sign up. If it is, I imagine I'll be hearing from the moderators soon. If it's okay, I'll check back tomorrow.

[combusean]

^ I don't think the mods would mind.

[IdahoZonie]

^ I don't think the mods would mind.

I'll assume it's okay. Here's the link: http://www.acppubs.com/article/ca6569795.html

The story on the Cronkite building generated some interest, mainly because of the innovative approach the contractors used to get the building designed and built so quickly.

[Sonoran_Dweller]

Wow, thanks for the article, great read. I appreciate the building already, but reading this makes me appreciate it a lot more. Thanks again and welcome.

[Vicelord John]

Hello all. This is my first post on the forum, but I have been a periodic lurker in the past. Every couple of months I write feature stories for Rocky Mountain Construction magazine, and my most recent stories focused on the ASU Downtown Campus construction — mainly the Cronkite building and the new housing towers. The articles are heavy on tech, since the magazine's subscribers are primarily people in the trade.

On this story and a previous one focused on the Sheraton Downtown, I came to this forum looking for ideas and angles I hadn't considered. The forum has been a valuable resource, and I hope to use it again on future stories.

I'm not sure what the protocol is, but I can provide a link to the online version of the stories if that is not a violation of the No-Commercial-Stuff clause I agreed to at sign up. If it is, I imagine I'll be hearing from the moderators soon. If it's okay, I'll check back tomorrow. holy crap dude did you seriously just ask that? how retarded can you be? asking if you can share your own writing on a FORUM... do you know what a forum is? do I need to explain that to you?

dumbass.


thanks for the article, I always like reading different perspectives on my neighborhood.

[IdahoZonie]

holy crap dude did you seriously just ask that? how retarded can you be? asking if you can share your own writing on a FORUM... do you know what a forum is? do I need to explain that to you?

dumbass.


thanks for the article, I always like reading different perspectives on my neighborhood.

Thanks for your gracious welcome. As soon as I sold the article to the magazine, it became their property. Referencing the magazine could be construed as promotion of a commercial enterprise, and doing that is prohibited in the terms of agreement for this site. I do know what a forum is, and I also know that more than a few intellectual-property lawsuits have sprung from forum postings.

You seem to be very angry about this. Why?

[Vicelord John]

oh don't mind me. you'll get to know me after a while. I have a high tolerance for people who do what they want without regard (as long as it doesn't affect me) and a low tolerance for people who are timid, abide by the rules, or ask too many questions.

oh yeah, and I'm just flat out a dickhead.

[IdahoZonie]

oh don't mind me. you'll get to know me after a while. I have a high tolerance for people who do what they want without regard (as long as it doesn't affect me) and a low tolerance for people who are timid, abide by the rules, or ask too many questions.

oh yeah, and I'm just flat out a dickhead.

Nice to meet you. I imagine we'll be crossing paths frequently, since this forum is a great resource for story ideas, and I don't mind sharing. If you know of any other interesting construction projects that would make a good story, let me know.

[HX_Guy]

I think both Cityscape and One Central Park East could make for good articles.
One Central Park East seems to have a lot of "technical" stuff that goes with it...would be nice to hear more about it, the type of materials being used, the height, what makes it "special" etc.
Same with Cityscape...more technical information about it's height, the parking garage, access off the street or underground? Things like that.

[Vicelord John]

Nice to meet you. I imagine we'll be crossing paths frequently, since this forum is a great resource for story ideas, and I don't mind sharing. If you know of any other interesting construction projects that would make a good story, let me know.
I've always wanted someone to write an article about why I wake up with a boner every morning.:shrug:

[IdahoZonie]

I think both Cityscape and One Central Park East could make for good articles.
One Central Park East seems to have a lot of "technical" stuff that goes with it...would be nice to hear more about it, the type of materials being used, the height, what makes it "special" etc.
Same with Cityscape...more technical information about it's height, the parking garage, access off the street or underground? Things like that.

I will check both those projects. Thanks. My recent articles have been all about the Phoenix and Tucson metro areas, so my current focus is outside the two big cities. I'm hoping things will get moving on the refinery down by Yuma, but haven't seen much action on that front lately. There's an update on the Hoover Dam bridge on my agenda for October. The solar generating station near Gila Bend and the algae biofuel refinery near Coolidge are on the agenda as well. Of course, this time of year, anything in Northern AZ looks good.

[tempedude]

I've always wanted someone to write an article about why I wake up with a boner every morning.:shrug:

ew! not only are you a complete dickhead, you are a complete dumbass too! ;) :rolleyes:

LOL!

btw.....cold brew, burgers, dogs, n brats for all! happy 4th! enjoy.

[Vicelord John]

ew! not only are you a complete dickhead, you are a complete dumbass too! ;) :rolleyes:

LOL!

ouch! plus I'm smelly and fat.

[IdahoZonie]

I've always wanted someone to write an article about why I wake up with a boner every morning.:shrug:

Probably some kind of post-tensioning or compaction problem. The magazine probably won't be interested. We don't do residential projects much.

[Vicelord John]

dude i am cracking up at work and everyone is looking at me .... stop it!

[combusean]

oh don't mind me. you'll get to know me after a while. I have a high tolerance for people who do what they want without regard (as long as it doesn't affect me) and a low tolerance for people who are timid, abide by the rules, or ask too many questions.

oh yeah, and I'm just flat out a dickhead.

ROFLOL John V ... you have no idea how glad I am you haven't been banned by now!

Cool article Idaho! I had no idea the building had that much going on in it!

[IdahoZonie]

ROFLOL John V ... you have no idea how glad I am you haven't been banned by now!

Cool article Idaho! I had no idea the building had that much going on in it!

The thing I enjoy most about writing these stories is finding out about all the behind-the-scenes stuff that's involved. I did a story last year on the light rail bridge over Tempe Town Lake. People are going to be astonished when they crank up the light show that's been built into that bridge. Another story I did last year was on the Kinder-Morgan pipeline replacement between El Paso and Tucson. There's a lot of cool technology involved with a pipeline like that.

[PhxPavilion]

I did a story last year on the light rail bridge over Tempe Town Lake. People are going to be astonished when they crank up the light show that's been built into that bridge.

It was lit up last year during this time and I just saw it again tonight for the fireworks display.

[HooverDam]

oh don't mind me. you'll get to know me after a while. I have a high tolerance for people who do what they want without regard (as long as it doesn't affect me) and a low tolerance for people who are timid, abide by the rules, or ask too many questions.

oh yeah, and I'm just flat out a dickhead.

Don't you work at a hotel? I want to come watch you at work sometime.

Hotel Guest: Sir, is the pool open at this time?

John: OF COURSE IT IS. Its two in the afternoon you f****** C***!!!! Why wouldn't the pool be open? You don't need to ask- just get your sweet a** in the water and have a mother f****** fantastic day!

[Vicelord John]

Don't you work at a hotel? I want to come watch you at work sometime.

Hotel Guest: Sir, is the pool open at this time?

John: OF COURSE IT IS. Its two in the afternoon you f****** C***!!!! Why wouldn't the pool be open? You don't need to ask- just get your sweet a** in the water and have a mother f****** fantastic day!

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHH

yesssss. Thats funny I have actually been known to do similar things. :haha:

[CANUC]

I got my first chance yesterday to really take in the new ‘art’ piece at the civic park and I must say I have had a change of heart. I was one of those that thought it would be a nice focal point and welcome addition. But after actually seeing it the damn thing is just too, too much. Its not located at the park it is the park. It dominates the space so much it almost seems that the park was constructed merely to contain the piece as an after thought. Its cablings stretch to all the edges and seem overly obtrusive creating an eye soar, old dangling power lines come to mind. I wonder why it had to be on such a large scale, why it couldn’t have been integrated more making it something to see at the park and not the only thing you see.

[HX_Guy]

I guess different strokes for different folks...but the size of it is what leaves you in awe in my opinion...a smaller version would have seemed like an afterthought as you see the park being.

Besides, the park isn't anywhere close to being finished...how can you call it an afterthought already?

[gymratmanaz]

Plus...Just wait till the net is attached. I wish i could find the film clip of the one in Portugal. It is amazing to see it move in the wind!!!!!

[CANUC]

:previous: Oh, don’t get me wrong I don’t view the park as an after thought its just my opinion that the piece is so large that you could conjecture that the park was made to showcase the piece and not that the piece was a proposed addition. I mean you have to admit, if you’ve seen it, that it dominates and not just because of the rings and columns but all of the cables that run from the columns towards the sidewalks. It just seems to busy. But I’ll take you suggestion and hold further judgment until everything is complete I just hope with the addition of plants, hardscapes and shading I’m proven wrong.

[shawneriksmith]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7VtnkMzxPs

That's the link of the video of Janet Echelman's "net" in Portugal...I think it'll be a great addition to DT Phoenix and help draw people into the core. Besides, if Phoenix wants to start being a world class city then it needs things that set it apart...this will.

[HX_Guy]

Taylor Place dorms may boost downtown Phoenix
Phoenix Business Journal - by Yvonne Zusel

A new Arizona State University dormitory could give downtown Phoenix a needed economic boost when students move in this fall.

Taylor Place, at Taylor and First streets, is at 61 percent occupancy, according to Jennifer Shea, director of operations. She said pending applications should fill the beds by the Aug. 21 move-in date.

Patrick Panetta, assistant director of university real estate development, said he has seen extensive interest from businesses looking to rent ground-floor retail space at both Taylor Place and the nearby Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication.

"They've done their homework," he said.

Possibilities for Taylor Place include a coffee shop, other eateries, and a convenience store run by food service provider Aramark, which also will provide dining services for dorm residents.

Panetta said the university was interested in getting local vendors into both buildings. He is confident the space will fill up quickly.

Shea also said she feels Taylor Place will reach full occupancy. The 13-story tower can accommodate 744 students. Housing costs about $3,500 per semester for a double room; prices for the single rooms vary.

Prices are comparable to those at Hassayampa Village, a dorm at ASU's Tempe campus, according to George­ana Montoya, dean of student affairs.

A second residential tower at Taylor Place is expected to be completed by August 2009, adding 550 beds.

Cronkite School Dean Christopher Callahan said Taylor Place will provide students with a "sense of place and camaraderie," and the economic opportunities will be a boon for downtown.

"It's hard to envision now, because it's still a construction site," he said. "But in two months, this place will be teeming with students."
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[HooverDam]

^^I still can't believe its opening in 2 phases. From the exterior it looks like its at exactly the same point. Weird.

:previous: Oh, don’t get me wrong I don’t view the park as an after thought its just my opinion that the piece is so large that you could conjecture that the park was made to showcase the piece and not that the piece was a proposed addition. I mean you have to admit, if you’ve seen it, that it dominates and not just because of the rings and columns but all of the cables that run from the columns towards the sidewalks. It just seems to busy. But I’ll take you suggestion and hold further judgment until everything is complete I just hope with the addition of plants, hardscapes and shading I’m proven wrong.

I'm not sure all those cables are permanent. If you look at the video of the one in Portugal it doesn't seem to have as many cables.

[kevininlb]

:previous: Oh, don’t get me wrong I don’t view the park as an after thought its just my opinion that the piece is so large that you could conjecture that the park was made to showcase the piece and not that the piece was a proposed addition. I mean you have to admit, if you’ve seen it, that it dominates and not just because of the rings and columns but all of the cables that run from the columns towards the sidewalks. It just seems to busy. But I’ll take you suggestion and hold further judgment until everything is complete I just hope with the addition of plants, hardscapes and shading I’m proven wrong.

I totally understand what you're saying. I said it in an earlier post. I really, really want to like this piece when it's done. But when I saw the size of it, wow, it's just so damn big that this has got to be beautiful. There's no forgiving ugly when it's big and ugly. Fingers crossed...

[PHX31]

Yeah, the second dorm flew up there, i can't imagine it is 1 year behind. I would venture to guess it will open in Dec/Jan for the Spring semester.

[gymratmanaz]

Maybe they are doing a slow roll out of added students. The dorm might be ready, but maybe they aren't admitting enough students to fill all the rooms yet????

Art piece...also, the cables won't be so visable as the park is filled with other aspects.....

[PhxPavilion]

I guess different strokes for different folks...but the size of it is what leaves you in awe in my opinion...a smaller version would have seemed like an afterthought as you see the park being.

Besides, the park isn't anywhere close to being finished...how can you call it an afterthought already?

A park exists to provide people with a place to gather, have a picnic, play sports or lounge around, they do not exist to showcase art and this art is too big to ignore. It's like seeing a person in bright red on a black and white screen. Form over function is not a good thing.

[gymratmanaz]

You can easily have both if planned well. This is planned well!!!!

[andrewkfromaz]

I guess different strokes for different folks...but the size of it is what leaves you in awe in my opinion...a smaller version would have seemed like an afterthought as you see the park being.

That's what she said? :shrug: :shrug:

This thing is going to tower over Central Ave, and we're all going to get used to it and embrace it eventually. No one thought the "Cloud Gate" sculpture in Millennium Park in Chicago was going to be as cool, iconic, and popular as it is. Just you guys wait.

[Sonoran_Dweller]

http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2008/07/19/20080719phx-asu0719.html


1st tower of downtown ASU dorm soon to open

by Jahna Berry - Jul. 19, 2008 08:00 AM
The Arizona Republic

Within a few weeks, hundreds of students will replace the sight of construction workers at the Taylor Place dorms on Arizona State University's downtown campus.

Students will begin moving Aug. 20 into the first tower of the 13-story dorm complex, 120 E. Taylor Street. The second tower will be open in fall 2009.About 60 students and their families tour the building each week, said Jennifer Shea, director of operations at Taylor Place.

"Students are really jazzed about this," Shea said. About 382 students have signed up to live in the dorm. The first tower has 744 beds.

The designers used bright pops of color to invigorate the project's gray and brown midrise, said Mark Kranz, design principal at SmithGroup.

Colored lights shine above each unit's door. Several student lounges, painted in vibrant colors, are visible from the street at night. There are many modern flourishes, including bamboo plywood - it's called "plyboo" - in the lobby.

Outdoor spaces also played a role in the design, Kranz said. There are several open-air bridges that connect the first and second tower. Open-air study areas also take advantage of Arizona's weather.

"Where else in the country can you have an outdoor study group in the middle of winter, 13 stories up overlooking your entire campus?" he said.

The dorm will also feature a shade garden, a 5,000-square-foot cafeteria, a coffee shop, convenience store, a fitness room and 24-hour security.

But Taylor Place isn't cheap.

A standard room costs $3,475 per semester, according to the Taylor Place Web site. "City view" rooms, which have bigger windows, cost $3,575 per semester. That price range makes Taylor Place one of the most expensive dorms at ASU.

The Taylor Place prices are "comparable" to other newly built ASU dorms such as the Hassayampa dorm in Tempe, said Shea, the Taylor Place official.

Taylor Place rates include furnishings, cable television, high-speed Internet, air-conditioning, electricity, water, sewer and trash.

Other dorms on other ASU campuses list rates as low at $2,100 per semester, according to ASU's Web site.

[HX_Guy]

The dorms are finishing up...here's the streetscape along Taylor and 1st St...

http://nitnelav.com/DTJuly212008/asu1.jpg

http://nitnelav.com/DTJuly212008/asu2.jpg

http://nitnelav.com/DTJuly212008/asu3.jpg

http://nitnelav.com/DTJuly212008/asu4.jpg

The ASU School of Nursing topped out...
http://nitnelav.com/DTJuly212008/asu5.jpg

And the Cronkite school getting ready for asphalt, I think they may need to remove that power poll ;) ...
http://nitnelav.com/DTJuly212008/cronkite1.jpg

[PHX4EVER]

I love the colors of this buildings.Nice pics hx_guy.:tup:

[Phxbyrd211]

There was a crew working on the roof of the Phoenix Art Center building in the park last night after mid-night. I assume they were doing some kind of restoration as that building needs it for sure. Good for them if they plan to work through the night when it's cool and sleep during the day.

[HX_Guy]

I read that classes start on Monday at the ASU Downtown Campus...does that mean the Cronkite School is ready to go? What about the dorms? Are students already moving in?

I haven't been by downtown in about 1.5 weeks so I haven't had a chance to see how these two projects are coming along.

[phoenixwillrise]

This thread needs updated photos. The journalism building is complete and opens in 20 days. One dorm building is complete the other well along.

[HX_Guy]

I think this has been talked about before...but theres a Starbucks being built into the ground floor of the ASU dorms. Add that to the Starbucks going into the Sheraton hotel and I think we're starting to get just a few too many in downtown.

[escodu05]

welcome to our world, there are like 20 in downtown denver. no joke. hopefully Dunkin Donuts will give them a run for the money in phoenix..

[Tfom]

I read that classes start on Monday at the ASU Downtown Campus...does that mean the Cronkite School is ready to go? What about the dorms? Are students already moving in?

I haven't been by downtown in about 1.5 weeks so I haven't had a chance to see how these two projects are coming along.

I don't know about monday. There is a guy moving in to my spare room in about 2 weeks who is a ASU DT grad student. So unless grad classes start later for some reason I would think they start on the 25th.

I also wanted to mention that b/c it shows evidence of people moving to the core (not technically DT though) to be near ASU DT. This was one of the specific things the guy was looking for when searching for a room.

[HX_Guy]

Yea, I think school starts on the 25th.

Very cool to hear about people moving into the downtown area. Combusean and me did a rough estimate of potential new residents between 44 Monroe, Summit Copper Square, Alta, Cityscape apartments, and the ASU dorms and we came up with 2500 new residents. Not a terribly big amount, but it's something.

[kevininlb]

The move-in date for ASU freshmen (at least in Tempe) begins Aug 20 (week from Wednesday). I'm assuming it's the same for downtown. Classes start on the 25th.

[Sonoran_Dweller]

Cool look inside Taylor Place.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=637nhfbUAXU

[Locofresh55]

That is going to be a pretty sweet place to live. Good views of the Hyatt and Downtown Phx. That Elenia Sotelo girl was cute......oh to be in College again. Oh wait...i'm doing my degree @ the University of phoenix. :tup:

[Vicelord John]

That Elenia Sotelo girl was cute

you mean the fat mexican at the end?

I'll take the blonde girl x 3

[nickkoto]

you mean the fat mexican at the end?

I'll take the blonde girl x 3

Oh you are so wrong there. If you replay at about the 0:31 mark, you will see that she has a nice petite body.



I'm going back to school this fall for the first time since I graduated high school. I think I'll be a little bit too old to be hooking up with my classmates (I'm 34 now), but the view should be great nontheless. :drooling:

[Vicelord John]

looks a little out of shape to me... like i said, the dopey blonde is hot.

[combusean]

Very nice. Taylor Place looked a little grey and cheap at first, especially in the rendering, but some of its colors are just absolutely amazing. How it's coming to look at night is definitely a pleasant surprise.