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Deek1978
Apr 28, 2011, 9:10 PM
I'm with Poodle, as soon as those buildings come down, construction is pretty much under way. Kind of how they bring in excavators to prepare the ground for a ceremonial shovel flip. Oh well, that's our society, people want to look cool, wearing $1,000 suits and hard hats flipping dirt with a golden shovel. Actually. . . that does kind of sound fun. Well, anytime you get to wear a hard hat is fun. Any word on when the wrecking ball will start hitting the bricks?

SLC Projects
Apr 29, 2011, 6:05 AM
yes, you are right..i guess, to me, groundbreaking is teardown...LOL...i know it shouldn't be, but when i see fences up and buildings coming down, to me it IS the groundbreaking.

but, technically, you are right...officially groundbreaking will probably be in june...

:cool:

poodledoodledude

:previous:
Technically CCC in SLC also never really had a ground breaking. It all started with the Inn at Temple Square coming down and the project was well underway. The buildings came down and the cranes went up. :haha::tup:

javiniscool
May 2, 2011, 10:24 PM
Looks like the club house at the Riverside Country Club house is coming up quite nicely. Wonder when they expect that to open.

jtrent77
May 4, 2011, 4:43 PM
I can't view streaming video at work....but I think this link is to the demolition related to Nuskin....for all those surfing this board right now:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nuskin-kress-building-demolition

Deek1978
May 4, 2011, 6:13 PM
thanks for the video link, now I'll be busy all day!!!

delts145
May 5, 2011, 12:26 PM
Nu Skin begins demolition work in Provo expansion

The Salt Lake Tribune

Nu Skin International marked the beginning Tuesday of the demolition of properties next to its downtown Provo high-rise office to make way for construction of the Nu Skin Innovation Center. The center will house a research and development laboratory, a network operations center, distributor recognition areas, retail space and a cafe. The network marketer of skin care and other personal products is investing $80 million in downtown Provo in an expansion that will include more than an acre of green space.

http://www.sltrib.com/csp/cms/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=i39ahoXWU9M1u_im_YmyCc$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYt74qIo8TmbGWLl$MQR_aDgWCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_CryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg
(Photo by Chris Detrick | The Salt Lake Tribune) Spectators watch as properties neighboring the Nu Skin High Rise are demolished Wednesday May 4, 2011. The Nu Skin Innovation Center will house world-class research and development laboratory, network operations center, distributor recognition areas, retail space and a café. Nu Skin is investing $80 million in downtown Provo with this expansion project that will include more than one acre of green space for employees, residents and visitors to enjoy.


Demolition makes way for Nu Skin center

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/provo/article_7ceb157a-d5de-5741-a79a-51cd7d514b57.html

Hundreds of Nu Skin employees and area residents looked on Wednesday as Nu Skin founders Blake Roney, Sandie Tillotson and Steve Lund took their turn at helping demolish the old Kress building.

The event marks the end of an era on Center Street, according to Mayor John Curtis, and signals the beginning of a new era in Provo history.

"This is a big deal for us," Curtis said at the demolition. "I have mixed feelings today, but any good city builds new landmarks. All of us appreciated the landmark that was here. But this is an important part of revitalizing downtown. It facilitates the things people have been asking for in downtown."...

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javiniscool
May 11, 2011, 10:43 PM
Here's some pictures of the Utah County Convention Center

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2392/5711612582_edb10e65cf.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711612582/)
IMG_0249 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711612582/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3410/5711051635_28ee3e286b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711051635/)
IMG_0248 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711051635/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2672/5711050405_564752ddf6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711050405/)
IMG_0247 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711050405/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3350/5711609344_9323ea390b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711609344/)
IMG_0246 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711609344/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/5711048433_f0c8bf3605.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711048433/)
IMG_0245 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711048433/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2220/5711047625_403a26decc.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711047625/)
IMG_0244 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711047625/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/5711606440_116bfc4b54.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711606440/)
IMG_0243 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711606440/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2628/5711605662_63daf13d8c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711605662/)
IMG_0242 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711605662/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2490/5711604804_46208e9aeb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711604804/)
IMG_0241 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711604804/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/5711035991_83fbf16825.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711035991/)
IMG_0250 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711035991/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr

And here's some recent demolition pictures as of today for the Nu Skin expansion.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/5711043899_bb3a8e9798.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711043899/)
IMG_0240 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711043899/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3532/5711042607_163926bb39.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711042607/)
IMG_0239 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711042607/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2192/5711041069_857e1e4038.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711041069/)
IMG_0238 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711041069/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/5711600230_b6ff823877.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711600230/)
IMG_0237 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711600230/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2775/5711039385_e10e91691d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711039385/)
IMG_0253 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711039385/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/5711038439_8339642e2e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711038439/)
IMG_0252 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711038439/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/5711597516_1cd55b58e8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711597516/)
IMG_0251 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711597516/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr

Neuroguy
May 12, 2011, 2:29 AM
Were you wearing a red shirt and blue jeans today, and do you have dark brown/black hair? If so, I totally saw you out taking pictures on my way home from work. I even made the comment to my friend: "I bet that is one of my forum geeks out taking pictures to post up tonight!"

javiniscool
May 12, 2011, 5:26 AM
Yea I was out taking pictures today but i had a black shirt on. Thought it was time some pics got put up, been a while. :)

i-215
May 12, 2011, 5:39 AM
At this rate, there will be NO downtown Provo left. The city would be smart to read a bit of history from other much larger cities which thought they too had the luxury to demolish unlimited old buildings. Just ask anyone from Denver about surface parking lots.

But I have an endless list of Provo errors which infuriate me every day.

Future Mayor
May 12, 2011, 5:07 PM
Hopefully with the recent completions of the Wells Fargo and Zions Bank buildings and with the convention center going a few blocks from Center/Univ that city leaders business owners and developers will realize that not everything has to go on that east/west access within a block of University Ave. Downtown Provo has the density that it can start to be a multi-street downtown.

TonyAnderson
May 12, 2011, 10:51 PM
Yea I was out taking pictures today but i had a black shirt on. Thought it was time some pics got put up, been a while. :)

And much appreciated.

It would be nice to see some updates on the plethora of housing developments as well.

poodledoodledude
May 13, 2011, 2:00 AM
At this rate, there will be NO downtown Provo left. The city would be smart to read a bit of history from other much larger cities which thought they too had the luxury to demolish unlimited old buildings. Just ask anyone from Denver about surface parking lots.

But I have an endless list of Provo errors which infuriate me every day.

ahem...what do you mean? from my perspective, I-215, the buildings they are tearing down have absolutely NO real historical value. sure, you had the kress building...but it wasn't THAT old, and it had no decorative use for the city....now, IMO, if they started tearing down the buildings on the corner of univ/center: WE HAVE A PROBLEM. but the buildings coming down where the expansion of nuskin is going: good riddance! they were put together with chewing gum and duct tape. i've been in all those buildings--and trust me, the first earthquake over 3.5 they would have come down anyway. they were old, dilapidated, and, quite frankly: UGLY. where the convention center is going-- the buildings were in the same, dilapidated state. they weren't pretty, or historical...they were SQUARE buildings made out of cinderblocks in the 1950's. the nice old facades left a LONG time ago. even our good friends over at sensuous sandwich wanted to rip the wood off the front of her facade/store front and found out the entire FRONT of the store was made out of the same wood! no historical value with that one either. where the zions and wells fargo bank were built, we see the SAME scenario. the buildings were old, dilapidated, un-historical, and UGLY. i think downtown provo is headed in the right direction. now, if we can just keep the momentum up and head WEST from 300 west to 500 west on the north side....them are some UGLY buildings--and unhistorical at that. if the owners of the buildings would fix them up, i could see some GREAT potential. but they don't. they don't care. the building across from the covey center for the arts--where the roasted artichoke used to be-- the buildings owner lives in california and wants MILLIONS for that building. the city of provo has tried to talk her DOWN to sell it, but she won't. budge. at. all. so, there it sits: bricks falling off the back, and pigeon poop all over the facade. a gallon of paint only goes so far. i feel like i can see where the vision is headed. if that means taking down OLD, UGLY, NON-HISTORICAL buildings, and REPLACE them with something that will attract people (convention center, banks, nuskin, etc) then so be it.

poodledoodledude

poodledoodledude
May 13, 2011, 2:07 AM
on a side note, i see where you are coming from with respect to the old hotel roberts. what a tragedy to see that go. but, if you remember, even provo city was SHOCKED that it was torn down in the middle of the night! also, the old historical catholic church. but, the catholics wanted to sell, and provo wouldn't let them because of the historical designation they had on the building. the catholics couldn't get their money to finish their other church in orem. with such pressure, provo felt that in order to help out the catholic church, they had to release the historical designation so the church could sell. thereby, receiving money to finish their church in orem. but....again-- the catholic church didn't upkeep their building. that thing was so dilapidated too! it would take MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars to restore the building--which no one had. so, there it sat: empty and alone. guess who moved in??? bums, crime, vandals...and VOILA: the 1980's and BY Academy ALL OVER AGAIN. the neighbors were NOT happy-- and who can blame them?! i don't think provo city can take the ENTIRE blame for that one.

poodledoodledude
May 13, 2011, 2:15 AM
not to be annoying in this, but it is tough to drive downtown and see the tabernacle all destroyed (eye sore), the nuskin expansion buildings destroyed (eye sore), and the convention center construction....all within two blocks from one another...yeah, it does look like a bomb hit down there...but in a few years, it will be cleaned up and look good again! don't forget about the (hopefully) new hotel just NORTH of the new convention center. the developers are having a tough time getting funding, so the city may be forced to make that entire block a parking lot until the hotel gets built. either way, those buildings are NOT historical...tear them down and start new. IMO.

Neuroguy
May 17, 2011, 3:06 AM
what is going down on BYU campus around Heritage Halls (the older dorms on the East side of campus by the Creamery on 9th? I was driving through campus today and they are constructing a rather permanent temporary fence (hows that for an oxymoron) that is roughly 10 feet tall and is anchored into the ground with bolts. It appears to begin on the hill South of the new student housing project (old DT) and extends down the street and ends at Heritage drive (the street that connects Campus dr. to 9th East and runs between Heritage Halls and the Law building. There is also a portion of the parking lot on the West side near the HFAC and the MOA that is fenced off in similar manner. In some parts the work area is very narrow, only being the width of the street. I figured they were probably working on the canal that runs in that area and that they put underground a few years back, but the fencing seemed a bit too formal and formidable for a simple dig-and-replace/restore project. Then I thought maybe they were constructing a series of underground tunnels that the LDS church is so fond of building, but figured that was less likely. Anyway, anyone know the 411?

i-215
May 17, 2011, 5:11 AM
:previous:

Building a new utility tunnel. Should be done in August.

It's cheaper for BYU to create service tunnels than to bury and dig pipes over and over again.

poodledoodledude
May 18, 2011, 5:42 PM
....a little rant, if you dont' mind.....
:hell:

this bugs me to NO END--even drives me to drink, a little bit!

when i drive by orem, i get so annoyed--
they just put up a 5 story building (should have been 8 stories, but the economy tanked so they had to shorten it) behind a gas station, in front of a condo unit, on a HILL.

this thing sticks out like a sore thumb! it does NOT FIT in the area, AT ALL.
it looks TERRIBLE!
what the #@$%!?

i mean, ....ugh...and THEN, we have the monstrosity of a development on state street-- the 8 story mistake right by a pawn shop and a couple of tire stores.

what the #$%@!? is orem THINKING?!?!
who is their city planner, and why the hell are they NOT fired for this?!
also, their parking lots dont add up. you go into the development in front of the FYE store on university parkway, and if you dont pull into the right lot, you have an island in the middle of the road, so you have to either park in the next lot over, or hike in!
it's ridiculous!!!

the entire city is a mess when it comes to development planning....
sure, they have great stores, but the PLANNING on how to put stores in is MUCH TO BE DESIRED!!!

ugh....

k, rant over...
carry on...

:)

poodledoodledude

kbashby
May 18, 2011, 7:55 PM
Which is precisely why I have never wanted to live in Orem. Everything about that city looks like it was just plopped in all willy-nilly without any foresight to aesthetic beauty. Isn't the office building you are speaking of located by Home Depot on the Orem/Lindon border? I was shocked to see that anyone would choose that location for such a building. If I remember correctly, back in the early 80's Orem's State Street won the distinction of being the ugliest stretch of city road anywhere in the entire U.S. And it probably still is.

delts145
May 18, 2011, 8:22 PM
Yeah, that's the office mid-rises on 1600 No. overlooking I-15. I completely agree for the moment, but mark my words, that junction is going to be sizzling hot within the next ten years. Once the economy gains some more ground, that old Geneva Site area is going to be a gold mine of activity. That area, along with Thanksgiving Point is about to be numbered among the hottest districts in the entire Wasatch metro. I would definitely have preferred them to have been built on the west end of Center in Downtown Provo at the very least, but whoever built those offices is going to see a very appreciable increase in their value.

Orem has stunning vistas, is very clean, and definitely for those who prefer a quiet bedroom community. It's not somewhere I would prefer to settle, especially when you consider that the Wasatch Front is full of cities with stunning vistas.

As far as having the ugliest stretch of street, that's ludicrous. I've lost count of much uglier across the U.S.,topped off with an onslaught of raw trash and grafitti. Also, they didn't have magnificient Timp and Squaw peaks towering to the East to mitigate the mundane atmosphere.

tygr
May 18, 2011, 8:24 PM
I thoroughly agree on the expressed sentiments about the city of Orem. It leaves much to be desired in so many ways and is the epitome of urban sprawl gone awry.

I ask, where is their downtown? Many will say it's the intersection of Center and State (primarily because of the address and the city offices), but in reality, there is no downtown; definitely no CBD.

Future Mayor
May 18, 2011, 8:56 PM
I would venture to guess however that we could give Orem the nickname "worlds longest strip mall" and I'm not sure what other city could challenge that. lol

tygr
May 18, 2011, 10:55 PM
I would venture to guess however that we could give Orem the nickname "worlds longest strip mall" and I'm not sure what other city could challenge that. lol

100% agreed!!!

Reachforthesky
May 19, 2011, 12:39 AM
Provo and Orem should just become one :cheers: ...they'd become the states largest city!

UTPlanner
May 19, 2011, 3:21 PM
FutureMayor, I would have to submit WVC as either the "world's longest strip mall" or a close second. They even have several options Redwood Road, 3500 South and now 5600 West.

Future Mayor
May 19, 2011, 10:04 PM
Yeah but at least WVC's strip malls are broken up by some open space and a bit of residential here and there. lol Unlike the 1700 miles of strip malls in Orem, lining both sides of State. Ok 1700 miles may be a slight exaggeration. :haha:

poodledoodledude
May 20, 2011, 12:08 AM
Provo and Orem should just become one :cheers: ...they'd become the states largest city!

HA! yeah, i would LOVE that. it would be cool. we'd have a population of 210,000. :cheers: we know they never will...but hey: if GERMANY did it, why can't provo and orem?
the new name?!

1. Provorem :cool:
2. Porem :(
3. Provo/Orem :yes:
4. Cougartown :yuck:
5. Utah County City. :hell:

any other ideas??

poodledoodledude

BrighamYen
May 20, 2011, 12:10 AM
Yeah but at least WVC's strip malls are broken up by some open space and a bit of residential here and there. lol Unlike the 1700 miles of strip malls in Orem, lining both sides of State. Ok 1700 miles may be a slight exaggeration. :haha:


The only place worse than Orem's State Street lined with strip malls and chain restaurants is any street in Las Vegas outside of the Strip. :yuck:

TonyAnderson
May 22, 2011, 2:29 PM
Orem is clean for now, but I get the feeling it's slowly turning into the part of Utah County's WVC.

redzeppelin
May 23, 2011, 12:44 AM
HA! yeah, i would LOVE that. it would be cool. we'd have a population of 210,000. :cheers: we know they never will...but hey: if GERMANY did it, why can't provo and orem?
the new name?!

1. Provorem :cool:
2. Porem :(
3. Provo/Orem :yes:
4. Cougartown :yuck:
5. Utah County City. :hell:

any other ideas??

poodledoodledude

They could play off of Salt Lake City with something like Utah Lake City, South Lake City, or Freshwater Lake City. They would probably go with something safe like Timpanogos City. I like Timpton.

poodledoodledude
May 23, 2011, 4:46 AM
just FYI...

provo city is going to tear down the lloyds building west of the city justice court building. (the purple builidngs) and ALSO the autocraft building just NORTH of those on 100 north on 300 west.

i hear they want to make a parking lot for the courthouse.
shhhhh...don't tell I-215, he'll be TICKED. ;)

i hear for the future, they'll use that property for other development....or buy up more buildings on that same block and go from there.

i think they are coming down this summer/fall.

poodledoodledude

i-215
May 23, 2011, 5:48 AM
I should invite a Denver forum member into a city council meeting to talk about the "downtown that was."

http://www.denverinfill.com/images/blog/2009-02/2009-02-05_civic_center.jpg
Link: http://denverinfill.com/blog/category/urban-form/parking

I love parking my car as much as the next person. I just hate to sacrifice one of Utah's few functioning "downtowns" to do it. Let me park in Orem.

Orlando
May 23, 2011, 4:42 PM
just FYI...

provo city is going to tear down the lloyds building west of the city justice court building. (the purple builidngs) and ALSO the autocraft building just NORTH of those on 100 north on 300 west.

i hear they want to make a parking lot for the courthouse.
shhhhh...don't tell I-215, he'll be TICKED. ;)

i hear for the future, they'll use that property for other development....or buy up more buildings on that same block and go from there.

i think they are coming down this summer/fall.

poodledoodledude


I'm with 215 on this. Unless those buildings are crappy buildings with little to no architectural value, then I think it's a mistake to knock them down.

Future Mayor
May 23, 2011, 5:02 PM
I just looked at the images of the buildings they are tearing down. They are simply one story buildings, Lloyds is on Center and AutoCraft, I don't have a problem with the AutoCraft building being torn down, and while Lloyds isn't anything to fancy, I hate to see anything be torn down on Center St. It just seems like the hole left by Lloyds will create and awkward gap on Center.

poodledoodledude
May 23, 2011, 6:21 PM
those buildings aren't historical. they were built much later.
also, behind them (their back ends) are falling apart and crumbling. it's a liability issue.

the autocraft stores were built out of cinderblocks in the 1950's.
it's WEEDS back there now, and looks rather unsightly.

i do see your points though, guys.
remember the two theaters that used to be on center and university?
the paramount, and the uinta. both were REALLY cool OLD theaters. the city tore them down, and now there has been a huge vacancy on center for over 20 years. the new university towers project was SUPPOSED to fill those gaps in, but.....like is said in an earlier post--its gonna be 5 years before we see ANYTHING done with that property...they announced it in june of 2007--it's now (almost) june of 2011-- it's been 4 YEARS now..and nothing...but, they have put up a sign that says what they want to do with the property, and have "plans" but...we'll just have to see if they start this project NEXT year...ugh....

anyway, if the buildings are falling apart--and to get them up to code again--i don't see what other options the city has. so...what do you recommend?! leaving them there, VACANT, and falling apart? the city is LIABLE for those old, dilapidated bldgs. they are falling apart, roof is leaking, broken glass up front, roofs need to be replaced. the city has no money for that....it would cost a FORTUNE to get them up to code....i think the city wants to tear them down (if they aren't historical--which these aren't) and have some fresh land for future development in the redevelopment offices arsenal.

i know the old saying, "nothing is more permanent, than something that is temporary" but in THIS case, downtown provo from 300 west to 500 west is in ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES. it looks junky, it feels junky, it IS JUNKY. it does NOT look good. i think it needs to be demolished and started over! again, i think the city feels like it's a LIABILITY issue. it would be cheaper to tear down, and have it for the redevelopment agency to use for FUTURE development.

also, once the convention center is up, utah county needs 2000 hotels rooms for the demand--on top of what we have already! ...and don't forget about the airport with frontier airlines. that alone will cause some GREAT development in provo. we need more hotels. period. we only have about 2800 rooms in our county...so, basically, we're 2000 rooms SHORT. we NEED space for new hotels. i think the city is looking ahead and seeing how provo can change for the better. ENOUGH TALK. let's get going on this. the residents are ready. yes, the downtown will change, but for the better! IMO.

the redevelopment agency just purchased the land SOUTH of the tabernacle. they want to redevelop that land and get it on the tax rolls for the city. um.....new hotel?? also, i hear the city opted NOT to renew the rcwilley bldg contract when it's up in 2013 (i think thats the year...either 2012 or 2013). they can re-use that land as well for more HOTELS if we need to.

right now, the city has land as arsenal to get in some good development. if there are gaps on center street NOW, fine...but im sure the city knows about it and want to conserve it as much as they can, but they also want to be smart about it.

once the convention center goes up, the HYATT place hotel wanted to come in, but i hear the developer (peg development) is having a rough time getting funding--due to the economy. so, provo HAS to supply parking for the convention center as per their contract. so, we may see all those buildings go for a parking lot until the hotel comes in.

this is a rough time for provo-- but i think (and hear) we are on the cusp for some EXCELLENT development coming in.

poodledoodledude

gemery
May 25, 2011, 4:24 AM
I'm excited for a new hotel in Provo too, but I really think the key to helping downtown is not just to put hotels there. Rather, I think the main focus should be to make downtown attractive to college students. However, there is very little to pull me (a college student) downtown. I feel like the students would be the first to latch on to the new trendy place, which would encourage further development and longer-term residents.

scuba1415
May 27, 2011, 2:31 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it on here yet. The expansion of the Provo airport is coming along nicely. I drove out there last week and the structure is pretty much done. It looks like they're mainly working on the finishing touches now. Shouldn't be much longer before it's done.

delts145
May 27, 2011, 5:58 PM
It was covered and talked about at length a few pages back. No one has been out there for update pics though.

scuba1415
May 31, 2011, 8:32 PM
I followed the discussion about the fact that there was an expansion taking place, and that commercial flights would be taking off and landing in Provo. I was just simply saying that the structure itself is near completion...

poodledoodledude
Jun 1, 2011, 4:34 AM
my dad was talking to the construction guys working on the provo tabernacle and he told me that they told him that the church is going to re-build....

....and that it just hadn't been announced yet.
who knows if this is the case, but i will say this: they are doing their darndest to shore up that building with supports, AAAAND cover the exposed brick with plastic, AAAAAND make the fence all nice and covered (since, IMO, it looks like a MAJOR eye sore right now), AAAAAAND, the fact that they've been clearing out a LOT of debris and what not....

doesn't it seem strange that IF the church decided to tear down, they would have moved along with it already?? maybe not, the LDS Church does move at a VERY slow pace sometimes...but it is interesting that the tabernacle is being "prepped" for something....

guess we'll just have to wait and see...
...but my dad isn't usually wrong, and he's REALLY friendly-- anyone will tell him anything... :)

poodledoodledude

Neuroguy
Jun 2, 2011, 2:03 AM
my dad was talking to the construction guys working on the provo tabernacle and he told me that they told him that the church is going to re-build....

...
.
...but my dad isn't usually wrong, and he's REALLY friendly-- anyone will tell him anything...

poodledoodledude

This is awesome (both the news about the Tabernacle and your dad being really friendly :))

As another note, They are starting to lay brick on the conference center.

SLC Projects
Jun 2, 2011, 6:09 AM
Somehow I know the church would save it. Glad to hear it.

(Eco)nomy_404
Jun 2, 2011, 8:28 PM
They have some good deals right now, though it probably makes more sense if you're flying east since any flight from PVU is going to connect through Denver.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2i6nk2u.jpg

$114 to New York isn't bad. Frontier's flight to LGA from SLC is $215. When you multiply the savings by a family of four, driving to Provo and flying out of an airport without amenities that wasn't designed for any passenger service doesn't look as bad as you might think.

I could fly to my mom's from Provo for about $40 cheaper than from SLC. Considering I will be living between the two airports, it would be worth it! I hope these fares hold out at least through the end of the year.
:banana::banana::banana:

jedikermit
Jun 2, 2011, 8:51 PM
The numbers of tickets available, and available at those prices, is very limited. We tried to make it work flying into Boston, LaGuardia, or Philadelphia, and the tickets at those rates were sold out. And that was the day after Ark posted that. So hopefully you'll find something that works for you. :)

(Eco)nomy_404
Jun 4, 2011, 4:44 PM
Does anyone know it there will be any public transit that already goes or will go to PVU? I can image there isn't too much demand - considering it is a small municiple airport that just opened to the public in a suburban area. But I'm sure they could at least send a city bus that would connect into the city's bus system and the future FrontRunner.

i-215
Jun 4, 2011, 5:13 PM
:previous:

There's no bus service to PVU. I don't think two flights a day will justify enough ridership for UTA to create a route..

redzeppelin
Jun 5, 2011, 2:41 AM
:previous:

There's no bus service to PVU. I don't think two flights a day will justify enough ridership for UTA to create a route..

It's really just one filght. Plane comes in from Denver at 9:14 pm, flight crew spends the night and takes off again at 8:30 am on the return. They are using an Embraer E-190, which seats about 90-100 people (depends on configuration--I'm not sure what Frontier/Republic uses). This flight isn't going to generate enough demand for UTA to notice. The UVU flight school at PVU probably generates more demand than this does. I expect that the majority of flyers on this route will be Utah county residents who will park their own cars or get rides from family and friends, but I'm sure that some out-of-towners will also use it. BYU especially brings in a lot of travelers.

I could definitely see some of the Provo hotels offering shuttle service, and I wonder if the car rental places in Provo might do the same. Has anybody heard anything about that? The web says that Hertz, Avis and Enterprise all have offices in Provo. It would make sense for them to offer some kind of service.

Boisekid
Jun 5, 2011, 5:26 AM
It's really just one filght. Plane comes in from Denver at 9:14 pm, flight crew spends the night and takes off again at 8:30 am on the return. They are using an Embraer E-190, which seats about 90-100 people (depends on configuration--I'm not sure what Frontier/Republic uses). This flight isn't going to generate enough demand for UTA to notice. The UVU flight school at PVU probably generates more demand than this does. I expect that the majority of flyers on this route will be Utah county residents who will park their own cars or get rides from family and friends, but I'm sure that some out-of-towners will also use it. BYU especially brings in a lot of travelers.

I could definitely see some of the Provo hotels offering shuttle service, and I wonder if the car rental places in Provo might do the same. Has anybody heard anything about that? The web says that Hertz, Avis and Enterprise all have offices in Provo. It would make sense for them to offer some kind of service.


Not to make your thread go off on a tangent, but having just exited a rental car company that shall not be named after 2 years of waste, I know nearly 99% of all US airports ban rental car companies from picking customers up at the airport. Enterprise/Avis/Hertz would have to open an office and have a lot available at the airport for the customers to walk to after their flight. Here in Boise, BOI could supposedly fine a rental car company $250,000 (ridiculous i know) if we were found out to pick a customer up at the airport. They don't want us to offer our lovely free pickup service and destroy the market for the taxis.

So unless Provo Airport picks up many, many, many, many more flights, no rental car agency will open there. They'd have to get space in the airport, find a lot adjacent to the airport, etc. Simply put, no rental car agency will open an office in Provo Airport in the foreseeable future or have shuttle service available unless Provo Airport decides to be extremely unique.

Sorry for the boring rental car rant. Also, great to hear the church may rebuild the tabernacle, i haven't been updated on anything since it burned down. And for a new town name for Provo/Orem, how about Jimmerville?

Sincerely,
Boisean who is MTC-bound in 1.5 weeks:tup:

i-215
Jun 5, 2011, 5:59 AM
Props re: the MTC. I personally hated the MTC, but loved the 102 weeks after I left the place.

I could see Hertz parking two or three "self-serve" rental cars at PVU. Similar to FlexCar?

SLC Projects
Jun 5, 2011, 6:09 AM
I won't name the company, but I know for a fact that car rentals here at slc int. Do pick ups. they call them "meet and greet". I've done these in the past. Not sure if they still do. But that is intereasting airports could fine these companies for doing such.

redzeppelin
Jun 5, 2011, 3:42 PM
In the past year I have rented cars at three different airports (LAX, SAN and STL). At all three, the rental lot was off of the airport property, and you had to catch a shuttle at the terminal. There are probably some contracts that they have to sign with the airport that specify what they can and can't do. As long as the shuttle only takes passengers to and from the rental lot, they aren't going to compete with taxi service. In fact, if the shuttles did go anyplace else, the city or state would probably require them to have special licensing, similar to a taxi service. Possible that each airport and municipality has its own rules. Sounds like Boise is especially strict.

redzeppelin
Jun 6, 2011, 4:29 PM
This is only slightly related, but the memory came back to me recently and I haven't been able to shake it. I thought you all might enjoy it.

In about 1996-97, I was walking on a sidewalk near the BYU Wilkinson Center when a car pulled up and asked me for directions. My impression was that the driver was a businessman from out of town, probably in a rented car. He was clearly frustrated, and asked me for help finding the WordPerfect campus. It turned out that he had the right address, but wrong city. The address for WordPerfect in Orem (about 800 E, 1400-1600 N) translates to someplace on the BYU campus when applied to the Provo grid.

Will Utah County towns ever break down and adopt a unified grid system like SL County? It seems like the time to do that should have been about 30 years ago. At this point, I can't even imagine the expense of updating street signs, maps, and everything else that companies and households print their addresses on...

poodledoodledude
Jun 6, 2011, 4:54 PM
red--

i'm glad you posted this.
the WORST is when you are in PG, AF, and highland and there are THREE names for the SAME street! or, PG, AF, and cedar hills....

provo and orem had a good start when they named 1200 south, 1300 south and university parkway to just: university parkway. that's helped some of the confusion with out of towners--but still....i wish we could do it differently down here.

the expense would be ENORMOUS--as EVERYONES address would change.
would university ave still be "0" and where would the east/west "0" be?? university parkway, or provo center street--like it is in the COUNTY address system...

and will SOMEONE PLEASE explain to me WHY highland STILL uses the old utah county address system?!?! are the NOT incorporated??? how is that any easier than having their own system??

i think with the freeway, all being one stretch that looks the same and feels the same, will help people (locals at least) to feel like utah county is one city, but that each "city" feels like a neighborhood of sorts-- like SL County.

when i lived in SLC for a number of years, people would ask where i was from. 9 times out of 10, they would say, "oh, provo-- yeah, my sister lives in the orem part of provo." or, "yeah, my friends live in spanish fork part of provo." etc....they would ask what part of provo i was from, and i would say, with a blank stare-- "by the freeway" i mean, provo isnt' THAT big, so i was often confused when they asked, "which part of provo do you live in??" LOL

but, i guess from THEIR perspective, provo is anything south of point of the mountain until you get to nephi...

any salt lakers on here that can confirm this?

on a side note, the nuskin groundbreaking ceremony will be july 18th at 10 AM.
:)
now, if we can just get the university towers project started........

poodledoodledude

poodledoodledude
Jun 6, 2011, 9:10 PM
can someone post the link about the new dance club/bar/lounge that is coming to downtown provo in the old provo craft building??

it was in the daily herald today....
great addition to downtown provo!!!

:D

poodledoodledude

redzeppelin
Jun 6, 2011, 9:28 PM
the WORST is when you are in PG, AF, and highland and there are THREE names for the SAME street! or, PG, AF, and cedar hills....
...
and will SOMEONE PLEASE explain to me WHY highland STILL uses the old utah county address system?!?! are the NOT incorporated??? how is that any easier than having their own system??


I totally feel your pain. My brother lives in Lehi near the border with Highland, and my wife used to work at a school in that area. It's a mess. A road can have 3 names over the course of a mile.

Maybe Highland and a few of its neighbors in the north county can lead the way shifting everything to the county grid. There is nothing wrong with one city at a time shifting to a unified system. It doesn't have to happen all at once. Of course, if it ever happened, then everybody would complain that it messed up their Garmins so they couldn't find anything anymore.

tygr
Jun 6, 2011, 9:29 PM
In watching the reconstruction of I-15 CORE, I think UDOT should allow cities with freeway frontage the ability to add markers as vehicles enter their boundaries. If there's a sound wall, UDOT would give a certain amount of space on a panel for a city's logo. If there's not a sound wall, UDOT could place a section of sound wall perpendicular to the freeway to allow placement of a city's logo.

They could even implement something similar to what they did with Legacy Parkway.

This could reduce some confusion for multiple exits having the same/similar names... Center Street, Main Street, University (Parkway/Avenue), etc.

I like the sign, but not the execution for the "American Fork" "Main Street" signs they put up at Pioneer Crossing. "Main Street" is legible no matter what direction you are driving, but because of the angle of approach and the width of those bridges, the "American Fork" part gets lost or goes unnoticed.

They should have placed the entire "American Fork Main Street" on the side of the bridge that traffic is approaching.

gemery
Jun 7, 2011, 4:22 AM
In watching the reconstruction of I-15 CORE, I think UDOT should allow cities with freeway frontage the ability to add markers as vehicles enter their boundaries. If there's a sound wall, UDOT would give a certain amount of space on a panel for a city's logo. If there's not a sound wall, UDOT could place a section of sound wall perpendicular to the freeway to allow placement of a city's logo.

They could even implement something similar to what they did with Legacy Parkway.

This could reduce some confusion for multiple exits having the same/similar names... Center Street, Main Street, University (Parkway/Avenue), etc.

I like the sign, but not the execution for the "American Fork" "Main Street" signs they put up at Pioneer Crossing. "Main Street" is legible no matter what direction you are driving, but because of the angle of approach and the width of those bridges, the "American Fork" part gets lost or goes unnoticed.

They should have placed the entire "American Fork Main Street" on the side of the bridge that traffic is approaching.

Yeah, you're right. I thought there was no American Fork on the sign. I just thought it said Main Street.

UTPlanner
Jun 7, 2011, 3:19 PM
Davis County also doesn't have a unified address system for the county. It can be very confusing.

tygr
Jun 7, 2011, 4:03 PM
Davis County also doesn't have a unified address system for the county. It can be very confusing.

Yeah. I grew up in northern Davis County and it was confusing. Some cities have their own grid, while some smaller towns use a continuation of their larger neighboring city.

They are consistently inconsistent.

Weber and Salt Lake counties seem to be the only ones that use a unified grid system.

Weber's "Zero Point" seems to be oddly placed; it's basically west of "Five Points" shopping center but on Wall Avenue. I don't understand why that was determined as the starting point of their grid. There doesn't seem to be any historical significance to that location. It's not even at an intersection... just plain weird. I don't think it's the geographic center of the county... maybe it is.

Future Mayor
Jun 7, 2011, 4:11 PM
I think the key to a more active downtown Provo is not getting students to live down there, but young professionals. Zions, Wells Fargo, NuSkin all have a major presence in downtown Provo and there needs to be housing opportunities for young professionals, those that will be working for those companies and others, including the tech campus area of East Bay. There is a condo development just south of Center St that is fairly new, there needs to be some additional urban living opportunities in Provo. These are the types of individuals that will bring disposable income to downtown.

I like that somebody is taking a chance on opening a real restaurant/bar/club on Center St. The Madison will be a great addition to downtown Provo, will enhance the viability of conventions choosing Provo, as well as young professionals possibly wanting to live in Provo. It will also attract people from around the county that tend to travel to SL County to go to a club. It could also be a place for young professionals that work in the south county area that want an urban lifestyle.

Provo Craft building to house nightclub and bistro

Provo's downtown is getting something it's never seen before. Come August the old Provo Craft and Novelty Store on 300 West and Center Street will be completely renovated and open as The Madison, a three-story upscale restaurant and nightclub.

http://www.heraldextra.com/business/local/article_055447ac-fde2-585f-bb0f-d1044cbbc728.html



I do have to add my opinion on the music mentioned in the article "from Hip hop to Salsa" I'm a little nervous that those are the two genres mentioned. The downfall of most clubs is when they either start or convert to hip hop music as their main music genre. To be successful, the club needs to focus at least one weekend night as just dance music (no hip hop is not dance music). I hope the Madison is successful, and I hope the two mentioned genres are just two of several they will have on the main floor.

Orlando
Jun 7, 2011, 4:53 PM
:previous:I totally agree with you Future Mayor. I think it would be a great time to be building housing downtown, like the residential tower( what's the name?) that was proposed for the northeast corner of Center and University. There are young professionals that would probably prefer living close enough to walk to work, and to be able to walk to a nice restaurant or entertainment afterwards. I bet there are some university students that have rich parents that would want to live downtown, too. Right now, there is no option to live downtown. But, now there are more and more reasons to live downtown. Build it and they will come!

gemery
Jun 8, 2011, 1:57 AM
:previous:
Not quite accurate. There are some residences in one of the towers downtown (I forget if it's the Wells Fargo Building or the Zions Bank Building). A friend of a friend apparently lives there, but it definitely falls into the rich kid category. His parents bought him the place for college ($200K). But as far as reasonable options, there aren't any.

poodledoodledude
Jun 9, 2011, 5:11 AM
I think the key to a more active downtown Provo is not getting students to live down there, but young professionals. Zions, Wells Fargo, NuSkin all have a major presence in downtown Provo and there needs to be housing opportunities for young professionals, those that will be working for those companies and others, including the tech campus area of East Bay. There is a condo development just south of Center St that is fairly new, there needs to be some additional urban living opportunities in Provo. These are the types of individuals that will bring disposable income to downtown.

I like that somebody is taking a chance on opening a real restaurant/bar/club on Center St. The Madison will be a great addition to downtown Provo, will enhance the viability of conventions choosing Provo, as well as young professionals possibly wanting to live in Provo. It will also attract people from around the county that tend to travel to SL County to go to a club. It could also be a place for young professionals that work in the south county area that want an urban lifestyle.

Provo Craft building to house nightclub and bistro

Provo's downtown is getting something it's never seen before. Come August the old Provo Craft and Novelty Store on 300 West and Center Street will be completely renovated and open as The Madison, a three-story upscale restaurant and nightclub.

http://www.heraldextra.com/business/local/article_055447ac-fde2-585f-bb0f-d1044cbbc728.html



I do have to add my opinion on the music mentioned in the article "from Hip hop to Salsa" I'm a little nervous that those are the two genres mentioned. The downfall of most clubs is when they either start or convert to hip hop music as their main music genre. To be successful, the club needs to focus at least one weekend night as just dance music (no hip hop is not dance music). I hope the Madison is successful, and I hope the two mentioned genres are just two of several they will have on the main floor.


thanks for posting this future mayor. it will be a great addition to downtown....maybe even a trend setter?? :)

Wasatch_One
Jun 9, 2011, 3:45 PM
:previous:
Not quite accurate. There are some residences in one of the towers downtown (I forget if it's the Wells Fargo Building or the Zions Bank Building). A friend of a friend apparently lives there, but it definitely falls into the rich kid category. His parents bought him the place for college ($200K). But as far as reasonable options, there aren't any.

Its the Wells Fargo Center where the residential units are. This is also a newer housing complex in downtown Provo: http://www.emg-apts.com/huntington.htm

Dromosaur
Jun 9, 2011, 4:00 PM
Its the Wells Fargo Center where the residential units are. This is also a newer housing complex in downtown Provo: http://www.emg-apts.com/huntington.htm

Oh wow that's pretty cool. I always thought the Huntington was low income housing, good to know.

Neuroguy
Jun 16, 2011, 5:34 PM
Below are some quick shots of ongoing projects in the Provo area.

New student housing replacing DT on BYU campus
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/5839857066_4fe1ed5a9d_b.jpg

Detail of stone/brick work on housing project
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/5839307315_55a663f792_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3385/5839307215_33d6fab9d8_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3545/5839306991_a37282da0e_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5263/5839856534_48fb0dd7a6_b.jpg

BYU through the barbwire, seemed all too fitting ;):haha:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5839306915_2ddd06e67e_b.jpg

Joaquin student village project

What it is supposed to look like when done
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/5839306571_c1a56f1a2e_b.jpg

Current status
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3300/5839856436_9eba5a6e5f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3407/5839306433_1bf8517099_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2774/5839855996_f498b45723_b.jpg

Farrer Junior High-

I thought they were just building a huge addition, but it looks like they built an entire new school on the south lawn of the original campus and are now tearing the older buildings down. Does any one know for sure? It makes sense since you can know longer see the old building anyway as it is blocked by the new building.

This is sad to me as the older building was beautiful (at least the main part- not the later additions) and I thought it would be something historic.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3433/5839306171_f67ba02963_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3470/5839855664_456e964f3a_b.jpg

Front of new school- I like it- IMO they used a better color scheme and material quality than the new Timpanogos elementary they built a few years ago next to my house.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/5839305817_ab57a78946_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5021/5839305643_23aacd9066_b.jpg

Nu Skin project

Since all the buildings have been torn down and only a empty lot sits, I didn't bother getting too close for my pictures.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5319/5839305501_5b68d45ea7_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5225/5839305415_b424fba897_b.jpg

Utah Valley Conference Center

They've started brick work and placing window already!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2663/5839854960_7aa1bd3811_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/5839854610_94d9d94467_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2569/5839854678_d5718a9da2_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5279/5839854810_b922637166_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/5839304921_fdedb57ea9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3343/5839304857_6c7a2090a9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/5839304693_1306e0da99_b.jpg

John Martin
Jun 16, 2011, 5:41 PM
Wow, that's a handsome school. I like it, it's refreshing.

Orlando
Jun 17, 2011, 2:33 AM
:previous: No offense, John Martin, but I was going to say that school just makes me want to throw up!:slob: That style was done back in the 1920's or so. It's not refreshing. It's old and stinky! And, it doesn't have near the amount of depth and richness of stonework that an original one would have. Fake historicism, once again, rears it's ugly head.

Stenar
Jun 17, 2011, 3:16 AM
:previous: No offense, John Martin, but I was going to say that school just makes me want to throw up!:slob: That style was done back in the 1920's or so. It's not refreshing. It's old and stinky! And, it doesn't have near the amount of depth and richness of stonework that an original one would have. Fake historicism, once again, rears it's ugly head.

I have to agree with Orlando. This is a horrible mish-mash of styles that don't really even go together.

s.p.hansen
Jun 17, 2011, 3:32 AM
I really like this new school. It doesn't look like a correctional facility.

John Martin
Jun 17, 2011, 3:44 AM
:previous: No offense, John Martin, but I was going to say that school just makes me want to throw up!:slob: That style was done back in the 1920's or so. It's not refreshing. It's old and stinky! And, it doesn't have near the amount of depth and richness of stonework that an original one would have. Fake historicism, once again, rears it's ugly head.

Well, that's no surprise. :P

Age is not a characteristic that can be attributed to most of Utah's architecture, and certainly not Utah county's. I find this school attractive because it's all about relativity. Were it built somewhere back east with a great deal of classically-inspired architecture (that is to say old by our standards, but still emulating the true originals, which are thousands of years old), sure, it could be considered stylistically offensive. If it were erected in the face of something created when intimate craftsmanship and originality were more highly sought after (to say, at the very most, the early 20th century), then it would be ugly by comparison. But the only thing this school can be compared to in person is memory. But I think they've done a particularly good job on a style that is so drop-dead rare in new construction in this day and age, not to mention rare in Utah's history.

To Utah, and particularly the area in which it is located, this school is new and refreshing. Allow me to reciprocate that no offense is intended, but most of the new schools (and every other new commercial/governmental/academic building for that matter) in Utah are "modern" or "postmodern" --or whatever you prefer to call the unmistakable style of contemporary architecture-- and are in my opinion as uninspired and inauthentic as the school pictured above, if not more. Furthermore, most of it is just flat out ugly. We have plenty of modern architecture, and we're tired of it. It's boring. There are occasionally a few spectacular exceptions, but for the most part, the lot is bland and boring.

You know, I actually think the attitude that traditional styles ought not be replicated due to lack of care and craftsmanship is partially a bunch of BS. I say this simply because modern architecture isn't necessarily much easier to execute. As an architecture student, modern design is my preference and my forte, but there's so much crappy modern architecture out there that it combines to worsen the reputation of modern design as a whole. Off the top of your head, how many modern designs can you think of in Utah, not designed by a starchitect or major out-of-state firm, that you thought were truly beautiful or magnificent? I'm really hard-pressed to think of any that I actually truly love, and not just somewhat admire. Probably the best examples in my opinion are high-end houses, where people have the money, motivation, and patience to make modern design look good. Modern architecture isn't inherently better in terms of practicality or in terms of taste, and as an architecture who has seen excessive examples contrary to these elements, I welcome classically-inspired design to Utah's mix. This school isn't perfect, but I applaud the effort. It stands out among Utah's schools, which I appreciate. I think FFKR modeled my junior high school after a prison, and they're about to do it again with my former high school.

SLC Projects
Jun 17, 2011, 4:51 AM
A much needed photo update. Thank you. Provo sure has alot going for itself right now with all these projects.

Orlando
Jun 17, 2011, 6:35 AM
Well, that's no surprise. :P

This school isn't perfect, but I applaud the effort. It stands out among Utah's schools, which I appreciate. I think FFKR modeled my junior high school after a prison, and they're about to do it again with my former high school.

You can't always blame modern architecture for blandness. A lot of it comes from the school district's watching out for the bottom line. Cheap schools, in other words. Build it fast and cheap. Design and character get sacrificed. Btw, are you talking about Olympus Jr. High by FFKR?

I am very familiar with the work of FFKR. Some of their work can be some of the best in the state. But, a lot of their work is stripped down modernism that is very bland. I would agree with you on that. The school architecture here in Oregon is way better. And, they don't do fake historic architecture. But, there is good craftsmanship and detailing.

SLC Projects
Jun 17, 2011, 3:23 PM
Some people on here are just wayyyyyyyyyy too picky.

poodledoodledude
Jun 17, 2011, 8:36 PM
you know....i like the new farrer elementary school. looks neat for that neighborhood--which wanted the older looking historic feel of the old school to fit in with the surrounding area. they've been working on it FOREVER it seems. i'm with john martin on this one...i like the "replication" of it, and when it's all said and done, i think it will fit in the area, just like the last one.

i STILL can't believe how MUCH provo is GROWING. it's amazing!

1. The New Deseret Towers
2. Joaquin Village-- waaaay bigger than i thought it would be....
3. NuSkin Expansion-- DOWNTOWN :D
4. Convention Center-- DOWNTOWN :D
5. Frontier Airlines :cheers:
6. new I-15/interchanges
7. 3 BIG developments/condos by BYU
8. airport improvements (new ticket counters/baggage claim) at provo airport
9. The Madison Club going in the old provo craft building-- DOWNTOWN :D

and on the dock:
10. University Towers Project-- will it EVER get going?!?!
11. Southgate retail center by novell
12. re-doing of the provo tabernacle/gardens in the HEART of downtown provo.
13. 5 story hyatt hotel (or SOME kind of hotel) across from conv. center-- DOWNTOWN :D
14. retail by Hyatt hotel and office space with apartments on north end-- DOWNTOWN :D

recently completed:
14. riverwoods retail is pretty much done
15. zions bank "tower" downtown provo

have i missed anything??

John Martin
Jun 17, 2011, 9:18 PM
delete......

H4vok
Jun 21, 2011, 5:56 AM
Frontier Airlines I believe starts flying out of Provo tomorrow or Wednesday...

SLC Projects
Jun 21, 2011, 6:11 AM
Frontier Airlines I believe starts flying out of Provo tomorrow or Wednesday...

:previous:
Frontier Airlines landed tonight in Provo.

Provo Municipal Airport welcomes first commercial flight
June 20th, 2011 @ 10:55pm
By Ladd Brubacker

PROVO — Utah County has waited over 50 years for regularly scheduled commercial airline service. Having to wait another 25 minutes for the Frontier Airlines maiden flight from Denver Monday night didn't seem to bother anybody much.

The 99-passenger Embraer 190 finally touched down to cheers and a water cannon salute, courtesy of two lime green Provo Fire and Rescue water tankers.

The flight had been delayed due to thunderstorms

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16051816

delts145
Jun 21, 2011, 2:42 PM
Ohhh, What the heck...This is historic... Let's give it the fireworks...:yes:

:fireworksProvo Airport welcomes first commercial flight:fireworks

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The first Frontier Airlines flight from Denver to Provo is greeted with a water cannon salute by Provo firefighters after landing at the Provo Municipal Airport on Monday, Jun. 20, 2011. (Kristin Murphy, Deseret News)

Provo Municipal Airport welcomes first commercial flight

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705374881/Provo-Municipal-Airport-welcomes-first-commercial-flight.html

By Ladd Brubaker, Deseret News

PROVO — Utah County has waited over 50 years for regularly scheduled commercial airline service. Having to wait another 25 minutes for the Frontier Airlines maiden flight from Denver Monday night didn't seem to bother anybody much.

The 99-passenger Embraer 190 finally touched down to cheers and a water cannon salute, courtesy of two lime green Provo Fire and Rescue water tankers...

http://static.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/509596/509596.jpg
People wait to watch the first Frontier Airlines flight from Denver to Provo land at the Provo Municipal Airport on Monday, Jun. 20, 2011. (Kristin Murphy, Deseret News


Provo takes off with daily flight service to Denver

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Frontier Airlines flight 1655 form Denver lands at the Provo Airport Monday, June 20, 2011. Frontier Airlines will begin offering daily flights from the Provo Airport. Mario E. Ruiz for the Salt Lake Tribune.

By Donald W. Meyers, The Salt Lake Tribune

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52042034-78/provo-denver-frontier-airport.html.csp

...But when a Frontier Airlines Embraer 190 — with room for nearly 100 passengers — touched down Monday night, it was greeted by a large banner downtown, firetrucks spraying waterand hordes of dignitaries.

The hoopla wasn’t for any visiting celebrity. Rather, it marked Provo’s golden-spike moment, its arrival in the world of air transport and the launching of a new era in travel...

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poodledoodledude
Jun 27, 2011, 5:52 AM
looks like the provo marriott is undergoing a renovation....sunstone properties sold it to marriott. all the rooms are going to be re-done and they are going to put in a great room--i guess what marriott is famous for.
i'm not into hotels much, but does anyone know what a "great room" is? is it like a big gathering room? like a lobby? where would they put it??

anyway, with the convention center coming, and airline service, the marriott wants to renovate the provo marriott into a much nicer hotel.

sweet. :D

poodledoodledude

SLC Projects
Jun 27, 2011, 6:07 AM
looks like the provo marriott is undergoing a renovation....sunstone properties sold it to marriott. all the rooms are going to be re-done and they are going to put in a great room--i guess what marriott is famous for.
i'm not into hotels much, but does anyone know what a "great room" is? is it like a big gathering room? like a lobby? where would they put it??

anyway, with the convention center coming, and airline service, the marriott wants to renovate the provo marriott into a much nicer hotel.

sweet. :D

poodledoodledude

:previous:
I hope they redo the outside as well and for the love of god line up all those windows as one straight line going up and down. I hate that "checkers board" look. :yes:

airhero
Jun 27, 2011, 9:39 PM
For those of you who don't know, excavation has started for the new life sciences building at BYU. I was under the impression that they weren't going to start until next summer, but I checked with some faculty members in the Widtsoe, and they have, in fact, started. It will supposedly be completed in 2013, but I, along with several faculty members, are skeptical about that. I took a few quick pictures (bad and crooked ones) of the site on my way back home from campus. There really isn't much to see, but it shows that they have started. The building in the third picture will be torn down soon (whatever "soon" means) and the building in the fourth picture (the Widtsoe building, arguably the ugliest building on campus), will be torn down upon completion of the new building. As far as I know, no rendering has been released of the new building.

Here's an incredibly crooked picture
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5318/5878187311_ebc30e8913_b.jpg




http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5271/5878748016_d8727af384_b.jpg



Here's the building to be torn down promptly
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This is the hideous Widtsoe building. I can't wait to say "good riddance" to this freakishly ugly building.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5078/5878185803_d678d13b6a_b.jpg

airhero
Jun 27, 2011, 9:45 PM
Again, I'm sorry. Those pictures were really bad, but I was in a hurry. And I forgot to mention that the greenhouses at the bottom of the hill are also coming down to make room for the new life sciences building. New greenhouses are already under construction directly west of Kiwanis Park.

tygr
Jun 27, 2011, 9:51 PM
:previous:
I saw an early rendering of the new building a year or so ago.

If they have maintained a similar design, then it will be a seven story tiered design that is built into the south hill on campus. At the bottom of the hill, it will be three stories, then as it goes deeper into the hill, it gains a story until it is three stories tall at the top of the hill. I don't think it will be a complete "seven story" building at any one point though. The early plans also had an "A" parking garage under at least part of the building.

The building would give someone the ability of entering at ground level (near 800 N), ascend stairs or elevator(s) as they go further into the building, and then when they get to the back of the building, they would exit at ground level (up at Campus Dr.). More or less "climbing South Hill" inside the building.

I guess it remains to be seen how, or if the plans I saw have survived.

gemery
Jun 29, 2011, 1:13 AM
I went to a meeting last semester where they showed the plans. I forget if it was 7 stories, but it was definitely tiered up the hillside. And, actually, the only buildings that were to be torn down were the Cluff (the one that attaches to greenhouses at the bottom) and the Widstoe. That building in the picture was actually the Nuckols (I think that's the name), which is attached to the Benson. As of that meeting, that building was staying.

delts145
Jun 29, 2011, 10:13 AM
Just in case there's any confusion, this building below is definitely the Widtsoe Building. I looked it up to make sure I hadn't remembered it wrong myself. Like Airhero, I'm anxious to see it replaced.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5078/5878185803_d678d13b6a_b.jpg
Pic By Airhero
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SLC Projects
Jun 29, 2011, 2:41 PM
Time to start a movement. "Save the Widtsoe Building" Ha Ha.

airhero
Jun 30, 2011, 3:57 AM
I went to a meeting last semester where they showed the plans. I forget if it was 7 stories, but it was definitely tiered up the hillside. And, actually, the only buildings that were to be torn down were the Cluff (the one that attaches to greenhouses at the bottom) and the Widstoe. That building in the picture was actually the Nuckols (I think that's the name), which is attached to the Benson. As of that meeting, that building was staying.

The building in the fourth picture is the Widtsoe. I had an anatomy lab in there. However, I was wrong about the one in the third picture. I thought it was the Cluff building, but it is the McDonald building. I'm actually not sure if it will be torn down. The Nicholes Building isn't pictured.

gemery
Jun 30, 2011, 7:57 PM
The building in the fourth picture is the Widtsoe. I had an anatomy lab in there. However, I was wrong about the one in the third picture. I thought it was the Cluff building, but it is the McDonald building. I'm actually not sure if it will be torn down. The Nicholes Building isn't pictured.

Sorry, I must have been tired. The corner that is shown in the first picture, we always referred to as the Nucholes building when I worked in it. Perhaps that is indeed part of the Benson. I must be dyslexic, because I thought that there was a comment about a building being torn down in the first picture ... not enough sleep :koko:

Oh, and when I asked them about the McDonald building, they said that it was still going to be there. But things could have changed since then.

poodledoodledude
Jul 8, 2011, 2:55 PM
looks like a big yellow crane type thing is being unloaded at the nuskin site. can anyone confirm this? does it see rather early to anyone to have the crane go up FIRST before they start anything else?? looks like a big yellow crane to me, but it hasn't been put together yet--just the parts laying around the site....i thought they put in the foundation first, then the crane went in....

anyway, no one has posted in awhile, so i thought i'd say something to get the conversation going again.

:D

poodledoodledude

SLC Projects
Jul 8, 2011, 3:41 PM
Has the site even been cleared yet?

javiniscool
Jul 8, 2011, 4:35 PM
My cousin works for Nu Skin and he said that ground breaking has been pushed back till the 18th of July.

Neuroguy
Jul 8, 2011, 9:56 PM
looks like a big yellow crane type thing is being unloaded at the nuskin site. can anyone confirm this? does it see rather early to anyone to have the crane go up FIRST before they start anything else?? looks like a big yellow crane to me, but it hasn't been put together yet--just the parts laying around the site....i thought they put in the foundation first, then the crane went in....

anyway, no one has posted in awhile, so i thought i'd say something to get the conversation going again.

:D

poodledoodledude

There are several sections of yellow crane laying on the north west corner of the cleared lot. I assume they are for the project, although I doubt they erect the crane right away.

By the way, the conference center is coming along nicely. maybe if you're all good, i'll go snap a few photos..

delts145
Jul 8, 2011, 10:00 PM
I've been super good Neuroguy! More pics please.

poodledoodledude
Jul 9, 2011, 6:28 PM
My cousin works for Nu Skin and he said that ground breaking has been pushed back till the 18th of July.

i mentioned this over a month ago. i'm helping with the stage work for the groundbreaking ceremony. :D

poodledoodledude

TonyAnderson
Jul 10, 2011, 1:03 PM
I've actually been pretty bad but hope that won't be held against the rest of the group.

TonyAnderson
Jul 12, 2011, 7:27 AM
I thought this was kind of a cool shot overlooking Provo:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6025/5902387132_bf4a837eb7_b.jpg
Copyright All rights reserved by emailme http://www.flickr.com/photos/37599063@N02/5902387132/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Neuroguy
Jul 13, 2011, 2:43 AM
Well even though Tony has been naughty, I will reward him for his honesty in fessing up. Here are a few updates of the convention center. Not the highest quality of shots, I'm no T-mac or John Martin, plus I'm incredibly lazy and wont take the time to get off my bike to find a decent angle. Progress on the convention center is moving along, a lot of the brick work and glass work is going up, and rather quickly too. The building has a huge presence and at street level looks larger than the Salt Palace, this is of course because they chose to go up rather than spread out. I am excited for the alleged roof garden/court yard. That will be a nice view from way up there. Least Provo City Council did something right! Enjoy.


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http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6007/5931929607_ff953dee60_b.jpg

SLC Projects
Jul 13, 2011, 4:10 AM
Went by there last night, looking good.

delts145
Jul 13, 2011, 12:04 PM
Thanks for the update Neuroguy, it's very much appreciated. Glad to see such a cool piece of architecture being added to Downtown Provo. Along with the many other recent and ongoing additions, Provo is beginning to tempt me to move back someday. I really enjoyed the years I spent there. Now, if they would just finally get that world-class ski resort off the ground, directly east and above the city.