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Shodan
08-15-2007, 05:38 PM
Alta.-Ottawa clash inevitable
Oil industry, environment debate coming to a head, Lougheed warns

Janice Tibbetts
CanWest News Service

Wednesday, August 15, 2007

CALGARY - Canada is facing a bitter constitutional clash over the environment and Alberta's oil industry that will threaten national unity and eventually end up in the Supreme Court of Canada, former Alberta premier Peter Lougheed warned Tuesday.

"The issue is there front and centre and coming to a head, in my view," Lougheed told a gathering of the Canadian Bar Association.

"In due course, soon in my view, the matter could evolve into a major constitutional battle."

One one side is the Canadian public, deeply worried about climate change, putting pressure on the federal government for strong environmental protection legislation that will lead to reduced greenhouse gas emissions.

On the other side is the province of Alberta, which has constitutional power over its non-renewable resources, including the oilsands in Fort McMurray, which have been dubbed "Alberta's Runaway Train" because they are the fastest-growing source of greenhouse emissions in the country.

"It's a very major matter that threatens Canadian unity," said Lougheed, who seldom speaks out on public policy matters. While Ottawa, Alberta and the oil industry have historically clashed, Lougheed predicted that the bubbling battle "will be 10 times greater than in the past" because the public is more engaged than ever before.

"I've been worried about this confrontation growing and growing," said Lougheed. "It's just been boiling with me over the last few weeks."

He predicted that the federal government's proposed clean air legislation, which aims to curtail emissions but gives a three-year exemption to the oil industry, will die in the Commons amid a public outcry for stronger environmental protection.

"Public pressure will force the passage of strong environmental laws -- and soon," said Lougheed, who works at a Calgary law firm.

Now 79, the elder statesman who led the province from 1971-85 remains an Alberta icon. He already sounded an alarm last summer over the oilsands, calling for a slowdown as the industry seeks sustainable solutions to cap pollution and the strain on the water supply.

He said that production at the oilsands is expected to double over the next few years. Lougheed's concern was sparked by a helicopter ride over the oilsands in June 2006.

"When you actually see the magnitude of it by helicopter, it just gets you," he told reporters. "I was appalled by what was happening there."

Former Reform leader Preston Manning has also raised concern about rapid development of the oilsands.

In a speech to the bar association Monday, he predicted that the next political revolution in Alberta will occur when a party is able to harness "green conservatism" or "blue environmentalism."

© The Edmonton Journal 2007

Copyright © 2007 CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc.. All rights reserved.

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
08-15-2007, 07:01 PM
This should be locked now! Mods?

This is Skyscraperpage.com not http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showforum=16.

ScottFromCalgary
08-16-2007, 01:32 AM
^By that standard nearly half the threads in the Canada section need to be locked since they don't pertain to skyscrapers.

Calgarian
08-16-2007, 02:28 AM
This should be locked now! Mods?

This is Skyscraperpage.com not http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showforum=16.

No need to lock this thread, as long as people can be sensible and keep their cool.

adam-machiavelli
08-16-2007, 02:45 AM
This is old news anyway.

MolsonExport
08-16-2007, 02:55 AM
Lougheed...aint that a highway in Coquitlam? :D

WHISTLERINMUSKOKA
08-16-2007, 04:02 AM
^By that standard nearly half the threads in the Canada section need to be locked since they don't pertain to skyscrapers.


And to that I would agree, or a new lets talk about anything section should be set up. This is why this forum is always the last place to go for architectural info.

Boris2k7
08-16-2007, 04:34 AM
And to that I would agree, or a new lets talk about anything section should be set up. This is why this forum is always the last place to go for architectural info.

What, just the Canada forum or SSP as a whole? Better than that worthless SSC...

WhipperSnapper
08-16-2007, 04:47 AM
SSC's Toronto forum certainly beats the Toronto thread here and its much better organized and up-to-date as far as global development goes

Kevin_foster
08-16-2007, 04:58 AM
And to that I would agree, or a new lets talk about anything section should be set up. This is why this forum is always the last place to go for architectural info.

Actually, it's awesome for that. It just contains alot of filler :) Kind of nice actually, that we can come to a place and talk about our interests/cities etc. - AND have side discussions on other things :tup:

Boris2k7
08-16-2007, 05:05 AM
SSC's Toronto forum certainly beats the Toronto thread here and its much better organized and up-to-date as far as global development goes

Depends what you mean by "global." SSP is enormously better for North America-centric info, and is the best place ANYWHERE for Western Canadian developments (as opposed to the Prairie section on SSC that is populated by 4 or 5 people). And what is the world without North America?

Besides, I thought that everyone left for SSP to get away from all the Toronto forumers over on SSC acting like children... :P

Xelebes
08-16-2007, 08:21 AM
Hey man, I'm trying to make a difference on the Prairie forum. Maybe you could help out. I know it is not as invigorating as here, but it does give the chance for Calgary, Edmonton and Winnipeg to be seen with the wanderlust foreigner's eyes.

Boris2k7
08-16-2007, 08:40 AM
Nah, I've long since given up. The local audience is just way too small to get much interesting discussion. The most you can get out of foreigners is usually "Calgary's got some nice developments going on. The Bow is nice, kool!" or "Hey guys, what is going on with (insert project!)." TBH, I'd rather not have threads filled with such nonsense. Not to mention that keeping up with the rapid pace of developments on this forum is already quite time-consuming.

Xelebes
08-16-2007, 09:01 AM
Fair enough.

Boris2k7
08-16-2007, 09:51 AM
BTW, this particular discussion is turning out in a most predictable fashion on SSC, which is one of the reasons I hate it so. What fashion is that, you say? Well, the patronizing and regionalist kind. Somebody, help! Ottawa will come and save the poor Albertans from themselves! Ottawa will fight on behalf of all Albertans!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=14817235#post14817235

What a bunch of one-sided tripe.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9883/pot20kettle20blackks1.jpg

Boris2k7
08-16-2007, 10:07 AM
Now, as for this article, I agree with Lougheed and Manning, who are both still very influential figures. This is getting out of control, and people are coming to realize that. To be somewhat realistic, most people have never been to Fort Mac, have no idea about the scale of the development, and don't give a rats ass about the environmental damage, as bad as it is. But they are seeing the high rates of inflation that are being caused by the oilsands and it is chipping away at both the standard of living and quality of life for many people.

We have a provincial government that is directionless and, dare I say it, illegitimate. We also have a federal government that really wants Ontario votes but probably realizes what happened when the last incarnation of the party stabbed the West in the back. I can't see either of these governments doing anything rash. They'll be as conservative as possible and let the industry do whatever it wants. I'm not feeling particularly threatened, or encouraged, by this bunch of wusses. Which means we will be coasting on autopilot for a while.

Let's also take into account that this is a sensationalistic news article, designed to grab our attention



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