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Goothrey
Aug 24, 2007, 1:36 AM
Well, I have spent my summer watching this project. Very interesting stuff if I do say so myself.

From the statesman:
http://www.statesman.com/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/lkv%20stadium%20aerial.jpg

Time lapse video through the web cam.
http://videos.utexasclan.com/view.php?id=1072

My own rendering that I created in sketchup and then used the basic render option in 3ds max 9.(must note that I created this last fall, and I did not completely finish do to too much detail, slowing the program down)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9893/dkr3dsoq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Then at hornfans.com us fans follow the construction through the lens of a fellow comrade named SMDhorn http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=stands&Number=5152150&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

BSofA04
Aug 24, 2007, 2:24 AM
DKR already is an awesome place to catch a football game. I'm really glad they decided to add to the north endzone. Acoustically, it should sound much louder than it currently is. Hook 'em!

TexasBoi
Aug 24, 2007, 2:25 AM
So when that end is completed by the fall of 2008. What will the capacity be for the stadium with the temporary bleachers added on what I believe is the south endzone by the new scoreboard aka God(or Ad)zillatron? Also, yes, SMDHorn has been great with those pictures over the past few months.

Goothrey
Aug 24, 2007, 3:06 AM
Right now, 2007 season, with the addition of the 6400 temporary seats in the SEZ, the official capacity is 80,638. Nearly 600 more than the 2005 capacity of 80,082. However, in 2006 the capacity was 85,000+.

From Wednesday's Sports Extra in the Stateman:

Attendance during Mack Brown's era:

1997: 74,040
1998: 77,440
1999: 82,673
2000: 82,216
2001: 83,062
2002: 83,150
2003: 83,339
2004: 83,094
2005: 83,333
2006: 88,505

As you can see, since 1999, attendance has surpassed official capacity. Now in 2008, with the additions in the NEZ, the capacity could be around 92,000+. If the 6400 temporary bleachers stayed, the capacity could be 98/99,000+. And if we sell out above official capacity, with the Arkansas game, we could see the capacity reach beyond 100,000. Of course, ticket demand has to be there for the temporary bleachers to stay there.

KevinFromTexas
Aug 24, 2007, 4:00 AM
Wicked aerial of the stadium, and thanks for that link to the other forum.

GoldenBoot
Aug 24, 2007, 5:13 AM
...Of course, ticket demand has to be there for the temporary bleachers to stay there...

I don't think ticket demand is really an issue. If the stadium seated 120,000, there would still be people willing to pay to get in. Additionally, UT's average gameday attendance has been at or above 104% "official capacity" for the past decade.

GoldenBoot
Aug 24, 2007, 5:20 AM
Nonetheless, even if there is demand, I’m not so sure UT would keep the bleachers in the SEZ after this expansion is complete – for aesthetic reasons. It would be cool if they did; solely for overall attendance purposes…

Goothrey
Aug 24, 2007, 7:26 AM
DeLoss Dodds said that if they receive around 70,000 orders for season tickets that they will keep the temporary bleachers. Now, my memory could be way, so do not take that number seriously. Just keep in mind the if there are enough orders for season tickets, the temporary bleachers stay.

jtk1519
Aug 24, 2007, 7:47 AM
The bleacher will stay... bet on that. The powers that be have eluded to that for some time, but I think there capacity will be decreased to more around the 4000 or so we saw last year. It should push the official capacity up to around 97-99,000 or so. That means for big games, the "official" attendance should be well over 100,000. I'm expecting close to 102,000 for the Arkansas game in '08. A pretty amazing figure when you consider that prior to last season, the largest attendance at a football game in the history of the state of Texas was 87,555.

texboy
Aug 24, 2007, 7:51 AM
ah even more people to watch us beat y'all! lol love it!

Nice addition. nice to see that stadium finally have a north endzone! Ive always liked the architectural detail that ut puts into its structures.

jtk1519
Aug 24, 2007, 11:08 AM
ah even more people to watch us beat y'all! lol love it!

Nice addition. nice to see that stadium finally have a north endzone! Ive always liked the architectural detail that ut puts into its structures.

You'll get to see The University win at DKR-East this year. ;)

Mopacs
Aug 24, 2007, 1:16 PM
Lets not forget the 'mediocre' years of the late 80s thru mid-90s (the 1990 "Shock the Nation" tour, notwithstanding). There were at least 2-3 or more games each season that were far from sell-outs (Rice, TCU, etc.). I doubt we'll see those days again during the Mack Brown era, but you never know. Fans can be fickle.

southsideatx04
Aug 24, 2007, 3:36 PM
Why don't we talk about the huge stadium at Texas State:haha: One day it will be as good as the University of Texas stadium though it maybe take 20 years. Oh yea hopefully we get into Division 1-A pretty soon.:tup:

texboy
Aug 24, 2007, 4:33 PM
You'll get to see The University win at DKR-East this year. ;)

Actually the game is at Kyle Field this year...

southsideatx04
Aug 24, 2007, 4:44 PM
Actually the game is at Kyle Field this year...
only an aggie wouldn't understand:haha: just kidding. He's talking about your field.

ScizzoTX
Aug 24, 2007, 5:21 PM
Aren't there plans in the works to fill in the south side of the stadium as well?? I could have sworn I saw renderings for a completely built out DKR a few months ago. If so I imagine the total capacity would be 125,000+

ATXboom
Aug 24, 2007, 6:09 PM
Yes... complete plans call for finishing out the south endzone similar to the North.

As of next year [completion of the north endzone] game attendence should be around 92K-93K

The south endzone is awaiting revenue goals from the games/added capacity... only a small portion of revenue is slotted to get reinvested.

I have heard the south endzone could get underway in 10-15 years so its a ways off. When complete DKR will hold between 105K and 115K.

This should put DKR at least in the top 5, if not top 3 game day stadiums in the nation... Michigan, Penn St, Tennessee, Ohio State all seat over 105K. I think next down is USC and UCLA which seat in the mid 90's for regular games... of course the Rose Bowl holds about 120K for the actual bowl... but not season games.

Goothrey
Aug 24, 2007, 6:32 PM
This image has been circulating around the web for some. If you notice, the front design of the NEZ is different then what it will be.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/934/29nc7.jpg

Come next year, we have the chance to be above Rose Bowl capacity. http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/stadium_list/90000.shtml

Actually, the attendance for the 2005 Texas vs. the boys of troy was 93,986.

UCLA-91,136
Rose Bowl Game-92,542

Wikipedia-
"The maximum stated seating capacity was 104,594 from 1972 to 1997. Capacity was lowered in 1997 to widen the playing field for soccer and remove lower seats that were blocked by players on the sidelines."

With the completion of the NEZ, the stadium could be the 5th largest college stadium. Of course, it would be larger(capacity) than any NFL stadium as they usually have capacities at 60-70,000. If the SEZ were to be completed, I believe DKR's capacity would easily surpass Michigan's official capacity of 107,000+.

jtk1519
Aug 24, 2007, 7:41 PM
Actually the game is at Kyle Field this year...

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Kyle Field = DKR-East since Texas has a winning record there.

DruidCity
Aug 24, 2007, 8:07 PM
Why don't we talk about the huge stadium at Texas State One day it will be as good as the University of Texas stadium though it maybe take 20 years. Oh yea hopefully we get into Division 1-A pretty soon.

I visited Austin-San Marcos-New Braunfels for the first time this past weekend. Is Texas State seriously considering moving up to I-A ?

GoldenBoot
Aug 24, 2007, 8:18 PM
...As of next year [completion of the north endzone] game attendence should be around 92K-93K...

Actually, that will be the stadium's "official" seating capacity (somewhere between 91,500 and 92,500). It's gameday attendances may actually reach 94,500 to 98,500.


...When complete DKR will hold between 105K and 115K...

According to UT's Master Plan, the stadium's seating capacity will be 115,500; once the south endzone is filled-in. If built, and compared to official stadium capacities of today, it would be the largest football stadium in North America (Michigan=107,501; Penn St.=107,282; Tennessee=104,079; and Ohio State=101,568). However, by the time DKR-TMS closes-off the south endzone, I'm pretty sure one, or more, of the aforementioned stadiums will have expanded as well.

Just an FYI: the Rose Bowl's capacity is 98,636, ot 120,000.

texboy
Aug 24, 2007, 8:22 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Kyle Field = DKR-East since Texas has a winning record there.

I think thats probably about the dumbest thing Ive heard, but then again, its coming from a tu fan so Im not surprised. :tup:

GoldenBoot
Aug 24, 2007, 8:27 PM
I visited Austin-San Marcos-New Braunfels for the first time this past weekend. Is Texas State seriously considering moving up to I-A ?

They've been toying with the idea for some time...

Shasta
Aug 24, 2007, 8:50 PM
I wonder if they partnered with the City of Austin to build a jail at the new DKR?

The UT football team is thug central (although the Aggies have funnier crimes...like the linemen busted for busting a nut in his car)

southsideatx04
Aug 25, 2007, 12:40 AM
They've been toying with the idea for some time...

I think they are pretty serious about it now because they are conducting a comprehensive feasibility study as we speak.

TexasBoi
Aug 25, 2007, 2:17 AM
I think thats probably about the dumbest thing Ive heard, but then again

Well. The Longhorns are 24-21 all time I believe at Kyle Field. That's why Texas fans call it DKR East. Win the next four at Kyle, then maybe UT fans won't call it DKR East. Just like many Cowboy fans call Fed Ex field in DC, Texas Stadium East because we have a winning record there as well.

jtk1519
Aug 25, 2007, 3:18 AM
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7328/dkreastsp0.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6198/pyleont1oy2.jpg

KevinFromTexas
Aug 25, 2007, 3:22 AM
:haha: Oh boy, we're never gonna hear the end of this. :D

Goothrey
Aug 25, 2007, 4:09 AM
Michigan is renovating their stadium: http://www.umich.edu/stadium/

They will only add 1,000+ seats though. Anyway to add even more seats would result in massive protests as people think it would flirt with history and tradition too much.

I dont see how Tennessee could expand Neyland Stadium. There is just no room. Same thing with the Shoe.

The only stadiums that I can think of that would rival Texas' master plan is Alabama, Auburn, LSU etc. Stadiums that aren't completely bowled in yet.

KevinFromTexas
Aug 25, 2007, 4:36 AM
With all this talk of stadiums, sizes and where they are, I thought of this website. Not sure if you guys have heard of it.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/

with 115,000 or more in the United States, there are 11. The largest is Indianapolis Motor Speedway with 250,000 seats which is the largest sporting events facility in the world. The largest in Texas is Texas Motor Speedway in Fort Worth with 154,861.

The largest football stadium in America is Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor with 107,501. That also appears to be the largest football stadium in the world. So at total build out at 115,000, DKR Stadium would easily be the world's largest football stadium. That is insane. It would also be the world's largest sporting events stadium that is not for auto racing or horse racing.

Goothrey
Aug 25, 2007, 6:48 AM
With 115,000 tickets, I sure hope they would lower the cost. $60 is mighty expensive to see Arkie St. while relieving myself in portacans. Of course, I wouldnt be going by myself. So at least $120 for tickets, $5 for parking, $30 for a bottle of water. That is just too expensive.

That would be wild if and when they bowled off the SEZ, they put adzillatron:haha: on top of one of the endzones and then created another one of equal size in the other endzone. It would look ridiculous, but it would be wild stuff. Godzillatron is supposedly a fairly temporary structure.

texboy
Aug 25, 2007, 11:06 AM
24-21 alltime at Kyle....not a whole lot of braggin room left there...

GoldenBoot
Aug 25, 2007, 3:41 PM
...It would also be the world's largest sporting events stadium that is not for auto racing or horse racing...

Don't forget the true "football" (that's "soccer," for all Americans out there :)) stadiums. There are a couple out there which seat 120,000-200,000.

TexasBoi
Aug 25, 2007, 5:04 PM
24-21 alltime at Kyle....not a whole lot of braggin room left there...

Well, Texas has a winning record at your homefield. Doesn't matter if it's that close. You just have a losing record against Texas in every conceivable way whether you play in Austin or College Station. I think that deserves bragging rights.

DruidCity
Aug 25, 2007, 5:06 PM
The only stadiums that I can think of that would rival Texas' master plan is Alabama, Auburn, LSU etc. Stadiums that aren't completely bowled in yet.

I doubt if those are likely to go much higher than about 100k, even if bowled in, because the focus is mostly on premium seating and skyboxes, rather than many more "regular" seats.
The rumor in Tuscaloosa is that Bryant-Denny might start construction on its next expansion after the 2008 season, to be ready for the 2010 season. This would have it bowled in, with the total seating around 100,000.

What is the relationship like between Texas and Texas State ? Are they rivals, or are a lot of Texas State students Texas fans ?

TexasBoi
Aug 25, 2007, 5:06 PM
What is the relationship like between Texas and Texas State ? Are they rivals, or are a lot of Texas State students Texas fans ?

The latter. Many TSU students go to UT for games.

Goothrey
Aug 29, 2007, 10:14 PM
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/index.html

"Royal-Memorial thinking big

By John Maher | Monday, August 27, 2007, 03:44 PM

As early as next season, the University of Texas could expand Royal-Memorial Stadium to seat 96,000.

UT men�s athletic director DeLoss Dodds said Texas was considering adding more permanent seating in the south end zone and would make a decision on that at some point in the future.

This year, with construction continuing in the north end zone, capacity is 80,638. When the north end zone is completed next year capacity will be just over 90,000.

Dodds said eventually he�d like to see capacity around 100,000."

bluedogok
Sep 1, 2007, 3:06 AM
only an aggie wouldn't understand:haha: just kidding. He's talking about your field.
I'm a Sooner and I got the joke :D

I would think the demand would be there that the bleachers would stay, I know that I am something like 4,500 on the OU season ticket waiting list of about 15,000 after the new deck opened up on the east side to push the "official" capacity to 82,112 but usually have crowds in the 84,000+ range and last years Texas Tech game (which we went to, my wife is a Tech alum) was 85,313. I would think that OU, UT, A&M and Nebraska could all do over 100,000 and will all edge their way to that mark in the future. I think the new renovations will make DKR look nicer and provide a closer in experience for those in the north end zone, should help with noise as well. We will see the other end of the stadium size spectrum this weekend when we go to the Tech-SMU game in Dallas on Monday.

This is what the OU stadium looks like after the new deck, there has been talk about closing in the south end zone more or adding a deck to the north end zone which is where my father's seats are. All I know that it has changed a bunch since I started there in 1982 and the architecture school was still in the north end of the stadium, I only had two arch. classes in the stadium as the others were scattered all over campus.

http://www.flintco.com/images/image_large_ou_gaylord.jpg

jtk1519
Sep 1, 2007, 5:22 AM
ou sucks, but their stadium is very nice. Very clean looking.

Goothrey
Sep 1, 2007, 6:18 PM
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/03/17/86/image_5786173.jpg

TexasBoi
Sep 1, 2007, 11:29 PM
Wonder what the attendance is for tonight's game.

KevinFromTexas
Sep 2, 2007, 5:34 AM
Wonder what the attendance is for tonight's game.

Not sure. An American-Statesman article yesterday said the game was sold out, though.

jtk1519
Sep 2, 2007, 7:08 AM
Wonder what the attendance is for tonight's game.

Officially it was 84,440.

Goothrey
Sep 3, 2007, 10:23 PM
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00CO2.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00COB.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00COD.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00COM.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00CON.jpg

BG918
Sep 4, 2007, 7:24 AM
OU's stadium with south endzone bowled in, hopefully the next project after the Sooners win another national title... :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bg918/OUBowl.bmp

Then it's turning the westside upper deck and press box into what the eastside looks like with an expanded club level and two rows of suites, plus exterior brickwork, and then the stadium is complete $200+ million later.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/bg918/oustadium4.jpg

Texas Tuff
Sep 5, 2007, 3:34 AM
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00CO2.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00COB.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00COD.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00COM.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/BlackMamba_01/opr00CON.jpg

Fantastic aerials! Were these photos taken from a blimp? airplane?
:worship:

RobDSM
Sep 5, 2007, 7:40 PM
That place is going to be huge after they finish the upper deck! Soon, very soon. :yes:

Goothrey
Sep 5, 2007, 11:49 PM
Those pictures were taken by the statesman. I imagine by helicopter.

ATXboom
Sep 26, 2007, 3:27 PM
http://americasbestonline.net/index.php/pages/collegestadiumsbest.html



Top 10 College Stadiums by Capacity

Rank
Stadium (School)
Capacity

1
Michigan (Michigan)
107,501

2
Beaver (Penn State)
107,282

3
Neyland (Tennessee)
104,079

4
Ohio (Ohio State)
101,568

5
Bryant-Denny (Alabama)
92,138

6
Sanford (Georgia)
92,000

7
Tiger (LSU)
91,600

8
L.A. Coliseum
91,000

9
Ben-Hill Griffin (Florida)
88,548

10
Jordan-Hare(Auburn)
85,612

TexasBoi
Sep 27, 2007, 5:21 AM
The 5th highest starting in 2008.:cheers:

Shasta
Sep 27, 2007, 5:29 AM
With the news out of Austin lately, they should build the city/county jail in the endzone!

KevinFromTexas
Sep 27, 2007, 8:31 AM
lol Yeah, they haven't exactly been championship material lately.

Goothrey
Sep 28, 2007, 2:24 AM
Taken 9-26

http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=stands&Number=5220702&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=1

Two important pictures I would like to pick out:

You can see the progress of the towers, which I find pretty cool.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/SimkinsBucket/IMG_1898.jpg

From what I have heard, they are trying to fill in the NW gap in time for the k-state game and hope to sell those tickets.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/SimkinsBucket/IMG_1894.jpg

KevinFromTexas
Sep 29, 2007, 4:07 AM
Yeah those towers are pretty cool. 115 feet each is what they've been saying.

Major AWACS
Sep 30, 2007, 4:55 AM
Problem at Michigan is you get about 4 inches for each seat!

Thanks for the photo updates. I saw some pans on TV last weekend and it was hard to tell what was going on. How old am I, I remember the switch to grass in the mid-90s. Before that we could go on the field and workout anytime on the astroturf...wow. glad to see the updates.


Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, It's shake and bake and I helped

Goothrey
Oct 27, 2007, 4:49 AM
Update as of 10-24. The NW corner has now been filled and will be ready for Saturday's game. The last third of the lower deck has begun construction and now all towers are in construction I do believe.
http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=stands&Number=5271696&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

Here is a funny picture:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff112/SimkinsBucket/IMG_2000.jpg

jtk1519
Oct 27, 2007, 8:31 PM
Godzillatron is trying to send a message, but I have yet to figure out what. I think the caveman and dinosaur are code for "ou sucks", but that has yet to be confirmed.

bluedogok
Oct 31, 2007, 3:04 AM
How old am I, I remember the switch to grass in the mid-90s. Before that we could go on the field and workout anytime on the astroturf...wow. glad to see the updates.


Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, It's shake and bake and I helped
It was the same way at OU when I was there in the early 80's. You could get on the field pretty much anytime between football and band practice and play on the field.

Strayone
Oct 31, 2007, 6:11 AM
^ Yeah I was fortunate to play some touch football on the turf, those were the days, my brother blew out his knee one of those games. I was always surprised they let people onto the field, it would be something to get out there again since I never realized it would surely end due to liability issues and wear and tear. Some of my friends would prefer the stadium kept it's U shape but I wait for the day they make it a monstrous bowl and then add on to the east side so it mirrors the upper deck on the west making it's capacity 150,00 on gameday!:D