[towerguy3]

Actually seeing cranes being lifted up 648 feet would be kinda neat to see, something you don't see every day

The signs along West Georgia this morning indicate No Stopping westbound between 1 a.m. tommorow morning and 10 pm Sunday night

[phesto]

The Sun has a photo gallery of Shangri-la with some surprisingly good shots, including some from the roof:

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/photogalleries/template.html?topic=shang

[towerguy3]

Confirming I was right about the 62 stories:

quote from the article:

"When the Shangri-La is completed later this year it will stand 201 metres tall and consist of 62 stories, making it the tallest buidling in Vancouver and the ninth tallest building in Canada.The first 15 floors will be occupied by the Shangri-La hotel with condos taking up the remaining floors. Vancouver Sun photographers caught this magnificent building from a variety of vantage points earlier this week.
Ian Smith/Vancouver Sun "

[Hong Kongese]

^^^*l*, I learn this from jlousa!

[phesto]

Confirming I was right about the 62 stories:

quote from the article:

"When the Shangri-La is completed later this year it will stand 201 metres tall and consist of 62 stories, making it the tallest buidling in Vancouver and the ninth tallest building in Canada.The first 15 floors will be occupied by the Shangri-La hotel with condos taking up the remaining floors. Vancouver Sun photographers caught this magnificent building from a variety of vantage points earlier this week.
Ian Smith/Vancouver Sun "

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with what constitutes an article, my pre-pubescent friend, but that is not an article.

Notwithstanding the fact that we've been through the whole height issue ad nauseum in this thread, can you not just appreciate or comment on photos without making a complete idiot of yourself?:yuck:

[towerguy3]

sorry phesto, you've just crossed the line with that idiot remark.

my patience with you has worn thin.

The matter is now going to the Mod.

I'll give you an opportunity to apologize or you're banned.

[cc85]

wow, people are childish.

how hard is it to check the development permit drawings and look at the stats for height and number of stories. SIMPLE.

[deasine]

The matter is now going to the Mod.

I'll give you an opportunity to apologize or you're banned.

Even if phesto started the fight, you have no right to determine who to ban on these forums and I do not want to be hearing this from anyone about this matter again.

I'll give both of you an opportunity right now to go back and think about what you've said.

[raggedy13]

Ok, first, no name-calling and direct insults are tolerated under new rules that went into effect on the forum about 2 months back - that even goes for the use of such childish slurs as "idiot" and "pre-pubescent". The webmaster (Dylan Leblanc) is trying to class this place up... good luck... :rolleyes:

Second, just because a journalist states a "fact", doesn't mean it is actually a fact. If you're trying to prove a point that has already been argued to death, please cite a more reliable source or don't say anything at all - otherwise it will only lead to unhappiness for us all. :(

And third, lets all try to give towerguy a bit of a break. He may or may not deserve one but either way he was not trying to insult anybody so lets try not to jump down his throat all the time. If you would like to prove him wrong, please resort to posting the appropriate facts (with links, ideally) or try to just ignore him. If towerguy is completely out of line then please contact a mod and we'll deal with him as we see fit.

Thank you.

And ditto to what deasine said above.

[Canadian Mind]

And third, lets all try to give towerguy a bit of a break. He may or may not deserve one but either way he was not trying to insult anybody so lets try not to jump down his throat all the time. If you would like to prove him wrong, please resort to posting the appropriate facts (with links, ideally) or try to just ignore him. If towerguy is completely out of line then please contact a mod and we'll deal with him as we see fit.



It really wouldn't suprise me if said journalists source was either towerguy or one of his posts. If media are to use this site as reference, which I know they have in the past, might aswell soon-feed them the right information. you know how screwed up shit can get when a journalist has two conflicting pieces of information.

As said in the past, this has been debated ad-nausium, aswell as many other towerguy related arguments. One of which ended in Jlousa being owed a steak. Posting the same responses to the same stupiditiy over and over again seems fruitless now.



And if Dylan is trying to clean up the site (god bless him for trying), then not only should he focus oncleaning it up visually by disallowing curse words, but he should als clamp down on the posting of false information. I feel that being the credit of false infrmation is far more damning and damaging to this site's reputation than the F-word is any day.

[Rusty Gull]

OK, this has gone on long enough! Someone on this forum needs to call Ian Gillespie or his development company, Westbank, and ask: How many storeys, Ian? Sixty-freakin'-one? Or sixty-freakin'-two?

That will settle this for once and for all!

[city-dweller]

I wonder if the hotel has sold-out for the two weeks of the Olympics?
I tried the website to no avail. I guess the follow up is how fast will it sell-out.
(that of course would depend upon whether booking was allowed before it opened)

[Yume-sama]

They are not yet taking reservations for opening night, let alone the Olympics :)

[cc85]

how hard is it to check the development permit drawings and look at the stats for height and number of stories. SIMPLE.

OK, this has gone on long enough! Someone on this forum needs to call Ian Gillespie or his development company, Westbank, and ask: How many storeys, Ian? Sixty-freakin'-one? Or sixty-freakin'-two?

That will settle this for once and for all!

See above.:rolleyes:

[skymaster]

See above.:rolleyes:

I agree we must settle this once and for all.. Sixty freakin two? Or sixty freakin one?

[Denscity]

How about some crane dismantling photos. A historical time for the tower. Last chance today. Anyone?

[Cypherus]

The height issue is really not a concern anymore.

[skymaster]

The height issue is really not a concern anymore.

Ok we will leave it at 201m and 62 floors final.

[jlousa]

Great to see somethings never change. Nor even sure why I waste my time here. :shrug:

[vanman]

How about some crane dismantling photos. A historical time for the tower. Last chance today. Anyone?

I got some pics on my phone from saturday thta I'll post later but they're not the greatetst quality.

[Yume-sama]

Well, I headed out to take some pictures this evening, it was quite beautiful and very picturesque with the moon appearing behind Shangri-La. I had just gotten to my spot and attempted to snap a photo when the camera refused to because the battery had died and I didn't bring a spare. I may have been foiled this time!! But not tomorrow...

[squeezied]

towerguy3, i've been dying to know how old you are

[officedweller]

Doesn't look like the window washing crane lowers in this Vancouver Sun photo, but there's something at the "T" that could be a folding joint.

http://media.canada.com/gallery/Shang/Sun0907n%20Shangi2.jpg

One of the trees is already dying! (another Vancouver Sun photo)

http://media.canada.com/gallery/Shang/Sun0907n%20Shangi5.jpg

[deasine]

OMG screw the tree... THE VIEW LOOKS SO NICE =D

[vanman]

A few pictures of the crane dismantling from Friday. Just a reminder my cameraphone is craptacular.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Image028.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Image030.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Image029.jpg

[AlexYVR]

Great pics, Vanman - even with the phone. Noticed the really cool diagonal shadows effect the afternoon sun gives the building, with all the footings for the light squares - makes it look pinstriped down the Burrard side. Anyone else noticed this?

[SpongeG]

could anyone live in the shangra la if given the chance?

I am too afraid of heights to enjoy it :( my friend lived on th 17th floor once and i couldn't look out the window let alone approach it - lol and i didn't dare go near the balcony

[mr.x]

watch out! it's a falling piano!!!! :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Image029.jpg

[skymaster]

Vancouver is gridlocked. Please evacuate the downtown core immediately.

[Hong Kongese]

could anyone live in the shangra la if given the chance?

I am too afraid of heights to enjoy it :( my friend lived on th 17th floor once and i couldn't look out the window let alone approach it - lol and i didn't dare go near the balcony

I would enjoy living there if I was given the chance. The height doesn't bother me. The worst thing would happen is if I lean on the railing of the balcony and it collapse and I would be free falling over 600ft down for about 6 seconds and would have the best view of downtown until I hit the ground and become a crushed tomato. :D

[Hourglass]

could anyone live in the shangra la if given the chance?

I am too afraid of heights to enjoy it :( my friend lived on th 17th floor once and i couldn't look out the window let alone approach it - lol and i didn't dare go near the balcony

Passing over the obvious irony that you're on a skyscraper forum ;) I take it that you won't be rushing out to buy an apartment in the Chicago Spire (http://www.worldrecordsacademy.org/events/tallest-residential_tower_the_Chicago_Spire_opened_for_sale_80117.htm)?

[raggedy13]

The Vancouver skyline with the Shangri-La clearly visible, taken yesterday (Sunday July 13th) from across Burrard Inlet in North Vancouver:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3230/2669304521_2e1359846b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/2670124808_97cdb59932_b.jpg

[subdude]

towerguy3, i've been dying to know how old you are

Can we please move past this TG3 crap? Mods?

[SpongeG]

Passing over the obvious irony that you're on a skyscraper forum ;) I take it that you won't be rushing out to buy an apartment in the Chicago Spire (http://www.worldrecordsacademy.org/events/tallest-residential_tower_the_Chicago_Spire_opened_for_sale_80117.htm)?

haha no

hated going on the 3rd floor of my old apartment too

such a wuss

[vanman]

watch out! it's a falling piano!!!! :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Image029.jpg

It kinda does look like it.

[vanman]

Great pics, Vanman - even with the phone. Noticed the really cool diagonal shadows effect the afternoon sun gives the building, with all the footings for the light squares - makes it look pinstriped down the Burrard side. Anyone else noticed this?

Yeah those solar squares give the Shangri-la an interesting texture that changes throughout the day.

[androo3]

Doesn't look like the window washing crane lowers in this Vancouver Sun photo, but there's something at the "T" that could be a folding joint.

http://media.canada.com/gallery/Shang/Sun0907n%20Shangi2.jpg

One of the trees is already dying! (another Vancouver Sun photo)

http://media.canada.com/gallery/Shang/Sun0907n%20Shangi5.jpg

I am thinking based on what was said earlier about the crane not going to be visible that maybe they might be putting up false walls that fold down to hide this ugly crane, and fold down when in use. I was also thinking this because from some of the drawings we have seen in the past the core looks higher than the glass panels on the outside. Which it doesn't look like now, but may be an optical illusion:shrug: Any insite on if we are going to be looking at the crane as the tallest point of our skyline or not?

[androo3]

Oh and look at that guy say he is 6 foot that would make the washer crane at least 3 meters;)

[Yume-sama]

Well, here she is from this morning. Looking better than ever :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2670757754_23acc4b4cd_b.jpg
See full version at my Flickr for a much closer look.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/syume/2670757754/

[Hong Kongese]

That window washing crane is the ugliest eye sore in Vancouver!:(

[canucks23]

That building is always going to look like its under construction with that mini crane!

[skymaster]

That window washing crane is the ugliest eye sore in Vancouver!:(

Wow it sticks out like crazy from this angle. I'd say it adds at least 3-4 meters of height though. Would this crane count as pinnacle height or antenna height?

[skymaster]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2667091324_f00ca859a2_b.jpg

[Phil McAvity]

^Wow, great shot skymaster!

Wow it sticks out like crazy from this angle. I'd say it adds at least 3-4 meters of height though. Would this crane count as pinnacle height or antenna height?

Wow, some people will do anything for a little extra size!

[androo3]

^Wow, great shot skymaster!



Wow, some people will do anything for a little extra size!

I would lose the ugly crane in a heart beat and it's extra height. However, if its there it makes the building taller, and also uglier.:yuck:

[skymaster]

http://www.numinous.ca/images/webcam01.jpg

Why haven't they filled in those elevator shafts yet? What are they waiting for Christmas?

[phesto]

http://www.numinous.ca/images/webcam01.jpg

Why haven't they filled in those elevator shafts yet? What are they waiting for Christmas?

Thanks for the photos.

I'm not sure, but the external elevators will probably be there a while longer. When I was on site about a month ago, the high-rise elevators weren't functional yet, so they still need the exterior jump elevators to take up people, drywall, etc.

[TZTag]

Any chance that window washer crane could stow straight up and down to become a spire when not in use? It is so prominent that I can't believe it will stay as is.

Tag

[androo3]

Jlo you were saying something ealier about the crane not being as is, can you shed any light?

[jlousa]

You will not be able to see that crane when the building is complete. That's all I'll say. :tup:

[Smooth]

Here's my guess of how it works:

If you look at the base of the crane in the Vancouver Sun picture you'll notice there's an open area there that I think the long arm of the crane drops vertically down in to.

Vancouver Sun picture:
http://media.canada.com/gallery/Shang/Sun0907n%20Shangi2.jpg

The picture is a bit misleading because it looks distorted from a wide angle lense, but I think that the section that holds the counter-weight retracts right up to the base. You can see how the counter-weight has a notch in it in this picture from SFUVancouver...

SFUVancouver's picture:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3850/shangrilafromlookout2jurc3.jpg

What I can't figure out from these pictures is if it swivels at the base to drop the crane in or if it bends where the arm meets the base. You can see that there's a notched out part where the arm and base meet but it looks like that whole section is completely welded to the base.

Looks cool. I'll be interested to see how it actually all works.

[officedweller]

Yeah, there are a lot of bolts at the base, so it'll be interesting to see how it retarcts, moves, swivels, etc.

[SFUVancouver]

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9347/shangrilajuly152008p108lq0.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 15th, 2008.

The full effect
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9471/shangrilaandtrianglewestk8.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 15th, 2008.

Shangri-La from Harbour Green Park
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/371/shangrilafromthemilljultm6.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 15th, 2008.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3900/shangrilashinyzoomjuly1eg5.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 18th, 2008.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4301/shangrilashiny1july18thbe9.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 18th, 2008.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3797/shangrilaflatironjuly18kr7.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 18th, 2008.

[Canadian Mind]

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9471/shangrilaandtrianglewestk8.jpg


:tup:


Even the diving board looks good in this picture. In my opinion it gives a bit of geometrical variety.

[AlexYVR]

Even the diving board looks good in this picture. In my opinion it gives a bit of geometrical variety.

Guess god needs somewhere he can iron his cardigans. . .

[raggedy13]

^Ha! Love it. :cheers:

[skymaster]

Is it just me or is the cladding very dirty?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2681190147_060f03d6d3.jpg?v=0

[mr.x]

^ i don't think they've washed it yet.

[towerguy3]

Even a City Council document says it's 62 stories. Go to Page 4:

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20080722/documents/p5.pdf

quote: "The site is surrounded by mixed-use commercial/residential and retail developments, and
notably the city’s tallest building, the mixed-use, 62-storey ‘Shangri-la’ tower is nearing
completion across the street at 1120 West Georgia Street."

[LeftCoaster]

Well you just believe what you want to believe. I think this has been talked to death. Those who want to believe TG3 do and those who dont dont... lets just let this rest.

Just for the record some of the people who disagree with you TG3 may work with firms involved in Shangri-La and therefore have much better information (ie blueprints...) than a rezoning application for a completly different building.

just something to think about... although I'm sure you wont.

[SpongeG]

urban fare and the retail is suppossed to open this fall or next spring?

[skymaster]

Even a City Council document says it's 62 stories. Go to Page 4:

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20080722/documents/p5.pdf

quote: "The site is surrounded by mixed-use commercial/residential and retail developments, and
notably the city’s tallest building, the mixed-use, 62-storey ‘Shangri-la’ tower is nearing
completion across the street at 1120 West Georgia Street."

It's 62 without a doubt, I don't know why people are arguing over this. If its 62 then just let it be.

[LeftCoaster]

yeah... no doubt about it skymaster.... if you say so...

http://www.livingshangri-la.com/documents/shangrilaPH01.pdf

If you need more proof please feel free to read through the last 90 pages of this thread where TG3 has been proved wrong numerous times.

enjoy :tup:

[Yume-sama]

I really don't know why it matters.

My house in Calgary is a 98 storey house, because I don't like the numbers 2 - 97.

[Denscity]

Is it just me or is the cladding very dirty?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2681190147_060f03d6d3.jpg?v=0

Yeah, I don't think the building's been cleaned outside or in yet.

[LeftCoaster]

Yeah, it will get at least two complete cleans before it reaches occupancy.

[Hong Kongese]

I really don't know why it matters.

My house in Calgary is a 98 storey house, because I don't like the numbers 2 - 97.

You have a house in Calgary too? You are one sick RICH fellow, no wonder you can afford to have that expensive watch!:tup:

[amac]

Yeah, I don't think the building's been cleaned outside or in yet.

Think of Shangri-La as a 60-story Ikea bookshelf. You don't wipe it down until AFTER you've put it together.:)

[Yume-sama]

Think of Shangri-La as a 60-story Ikea bookshelf. You don't wipe it down until AFTER you've put it together.:)

Yikes, I don't think I'd want to live in something that was put together with nothing more than a cheap IKEA wrench :P

[Hong Kongese]

^^I bet all your furnitures are Italian made.:)

[towerguy3]

Have you see the new Shangri-La squad cars? Jet black with gold lettering on driver door. Saw one parked in the alley behind the Carmana

[jlousa]

You mean the one BMW 750, that's now advertising Shangri-la Toronto which happens to be the same car the developer used during the Fairmont Pacific Rim sales drive? Nope never seen it. :koko:

[towerguy3]

It might have been a BMW, can't remember; I'll try to take a photo

[Cypherus]

^Nothing too exciting anyways, so save yourself the time.

[skymaster]

Have you see the new Shangri-La squad cars? Jet black with gold lettering on driver door. Saw one parked in the alley behind the Carmana

I think your reffering to the 2008 BMW 750Li which are priced around $80,000 - $120,000.

[skymaster]

I bet no one was more closer to LSL then I was during the crane lowering.

http://www.dailycommercialnews.com/images/archivesid/29259/160.jpg

[AlexYVR]

Pretty spectacular pic. Good job!

[skymaster]

Pretty spectacular pic. Good job!

Give me a holla, holla, holla!

[phesto]

Skymaster - that photo you posted was featured on the Journal of Commerce website on Monday, with a credit to someone at Ledcor. Just sayin....;)

www.joconl.com

[Cypherus]

Skymaster - that photo you posted was featured on the Journal of Commerce website on Monday, with a credit to someone at Ledcor. Just sayin....;)

www.joconl.com

As they say on the internet, Skymaster has just been 'Owned.'

[Yume-sama]

As they say on the internet, Skymaster has just been 'Owned.'

pwned actually. Geez, where did you guys go to school? :yuck: :D

UNLESS... he works for them :cool:

[AlexYVR]

As they say on the internet, Skymaster has just been 'Owned.'

For that, I will give you the 'holla holla holla!'. It probably tastes like pain.

[raggedy13]

^:haha:

I bet no one was more closer to LSL then I was during the crane lowering.

http://www.dailycommercialnews.com/images/archivesid/29259/160.jpg

Please provide sources for photos that are not your own... :)

[deasine]

Please provide sources for photos that are not your own... :)

Actually talking about that, raggedy and I have been really lenient with that... it is our job to remind everyone that it is mandatory to source your photos [forum policy].

[SFUVancouver]

The Coastal Church has received flying butresses as part of the transitionary space between it and the Shangri-La podium.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7650/coastalchurtbuttressesjft2.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 21st, 2008.

Progress on the Shangri-La podium.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6010/shangrilapodiumprogressor1.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/) Taken by SFUVancouver, July 21st, 2008.

[NewfBC]

You mean the one BMW 750, that's now advertising Shangri-la Toronto which happens to be the same car the developer used during the Fairmont Pacific Rim sales drive? Nope never seen it. :koko:

Rennie's old car before the Bentley he has now was a 750.. maybe he's 'leased' or loaned it to his company. :)

Ron.

[Denscity]

Could be Ron. I remember seeing that car beside Shaw Tower during its Fairmont days.

[entheosfog]

^:haha:



Please provide sources for photos that are not your own... :)

And not just a flickr link but the actual user name, too when posting from flickr.
Thanks!!

[entheosfog]

The finished (mostly) product from Burrard and Robson:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc300/whereismymind2007/DSCF7333.jpg?t=1217178249

[skymaster]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/2709514154_de1f9f8def_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/2690029441_7d0b81a220_b.jpg

[LeftCoaster]

Nice pics, did you take those ones too? :cool:

[skymaster]

Nice pics, did you take those ones too? :cool:

No but a good friend of a friend of mine did ;)

[djp]

Is this thing going to have lighting effects or something? I remember speculation at the beginning that the little squares would be able to light up and maybe even form an image somehow (although I didn't really believe it at the time). That sort of thing is starting to seem completely unlikely. But does anyone know what, if any, lighting effects will it have? Or when we'll be likely to find out?

[fever]

Being 10 lights wide, it would make a half-decent tetris display. The tree boxes kind of get in the way but by that point you've pretty much lost already

[LeftCoaster]

haha no way! you cant give up there... you can still recover!

Is this thing going to have lighting effects or something? I remember speculation at the beginning that the little squares would be able to light up and maybe even form an image somehow (although I didn't really believe it at the time). That sort of thing is starting to seem completely unlikely. But does anyone know what, if any, lighting effects will it have? Or when we'll be likely to find out?


I'm sure there are a few people on these fourms who know what is in store regarding the solar pannels and the crown/architectural lighting... but dont you think they would have said something by now if they could? You are just going to have to be patient and wait until the news is made public.... if it makes you feel any better it should be close to christmas time when you might see it, so wont that be a nice little present?

[skymaster]

haha no way! you cant give up there... you can still recover!




I'm sure there are a few people on these fourms who know what is in store regarding the solar pannels and the crown/architectural lighting... but dont you think they would have said something by now if they could? You are just going to have to be patient and wait until the news is made public.... if it makes you feel any better it should be close to christmas time when you might see it, so wont that be a nice little present?

I have to agree with you about the lighting. For sure it will be fully lighted up before Christmas.

[Delirium]

great shots! the sail from the Melville looks attached to the roof of Escala in that last pic.

speaking of christmas and lights, i can't help but feel the LED lighting atop L'hermitage is too christmas like and it just doesn't work with the building. when they start blinking it looks particularly bad.

[skymaster]

Here is some of the underrated detailing that when into the LSL.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2715093963_86f1da0283.jpg?v=1217386515

[Phazed]

^^^Wow, that's a crazy shot :tup:

[Cypherus]

Here is some of the underrated detailing that when into the LSL.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/2715093963_86f1da0283.jpg?v=1217386515

You must cite these "Flickr" photos that are not your own. This one is from "troutwerks" from flickr.