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ozonemania
Jan 14, 2010, 10:39 PM
The christmas lighting they have hanging in the Village @ PR is really cool. I haven't seen animated LED lights like that before. I'm interested to see how this skating canal will look but I suspect it will look very festive.

hrhsheba
Jan 14, 2010, 10:49 PM
do you think these idiots will have a successful restaurant?

that place was shut down long ago last year how freaking long are they taking to open? :shrug:

its that place just off robson - up and across from triple o's i forget the street names i pass it every few days and i can't think of the streets :rolleyes:

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/index.html?releasePID=4Ek_dV_6CqbSnV0EjpU667Fa8enaFxbm
It's the Corner Suite Bistro Deluxe at the corner of Thurlow and Haro. It used to be Piccolo Mondo and then Saveur. Anthony Sedlak and a couple of ex-Chambar(?) managers are behind it. Frankly, I think it's one of the worst examples of how to launch a business I've ever seen. They managed to generate a ton of hype in May and touted a June opening. Now, I know they couldn't possibly have foreseen that the City would nix the old venting system but this has been going on for moons. They even took reservations for the Christmas party season and then had to cancel them all :rolleyes: That space is not very big - I would say, seating for 50 at most (probably less given the size of the bar), they've gone OTT on fixturing (a friend of mine installed a $10,000 espresso machine (in August)) and they're way over budget. With only 50 seats, unless they get a clientele of hard-core drinkers, it will take them years to turn a profit! We'll see, but I'm not holding my breath that they'll be around in years to come.

SpongeG
Jan 14, 2010, 10:57 PM
The christmas lighting they have hanging in the Village @ PR is really cool. I haven't seen animated LED lights like that before. I'm interested to see how this skating canal will look but I suspect it will look very festive.

those lights are cool - they had them in the cambie street super liquor store

David
Jan 19, 2010, 6:14 PM
Nesters is now open at SFU UniverCity

officedweller
Jan 19, 2010, 6:59 PM
When did the Adidas store on Granville close down?

vancityrox
Jan 19, 2010, 7:10 PM
When did the Adidas store on Granville close down?

hmmm i think its just renovations.

SpongeG
Jan 19, 2010, 9:32 PM
hopefully - they closed their store in seattle earlier this year

awful close to the olympics to do renos

officedweller
Jan 19, 2010, 9:40 PM
The windows and doors were papered over - didn't see any signs - but I walked by quickly.

David
Jan 19, 2010, 9:46 PM
they are renovating. i actually tried going there as they shut down on their last day at 3:00 and there was a sign saying it was for renos

SpongeG
Jan 19, 2010, 10:01 PM
its still listed on their corporate site

SpongeG
Jan 20, 2010, 7:36 AM
I remember their locations on georgia/granville and robson - the few times i have been to the west 4th store it was always pretty empty of customers

Vancouver's Duthie Books to shut down after 52 years

By Randy Shore, Vancouver Sun

VANCOUVER -- Independent bookseller Duthie Books will shut its doors at the end of February after 52 years in business.

Facing pressure from online bookseller Amazon and multinational chains such as Chapters, owner Cathy Duthie Legate has decided to pack it in and close the last of eight locations on Fourth Avenue in Kitsilano.

The family-owned chain was founded in 1957 by her father Bill Duthie.

"I'm just not making it, so I'm going to close it down," said Duthie Legate. "We are going to start our regular sale Jan. 28, but it will be better, of course, with discounts of 40, 60 then 80 per cent and I hope to have all the books out of here by the end of February.

"Then I will tear down the store," she said. "I'm sorry that it will leave a void in the city."

Duthie Books has been hurt in recent years by encroachment on the traditional book market from every direction: big box stores, online sellers and most recently Kindle.

The store typically carries between $650,000 and $900,000 in paid inventory and pays $16,000 a month in rent for its Kits location since the lease expired last October. The recession has taken a toll.

"The last two years have been brutal," she said. "When the dollar went par that hurt and then last year hurt."

"Most of the year we run in the red and at Christmas we run in the black," she said. And this year my black wasn't as black as it should have been."

When the dust settles, everyone will be paid, said Duthie Legate who has run the family business for ten years.

"I'm in good shape and this is the one time that I can do this where I pay everybody off and pay severance and everything is good. It costs a lot of money to close down."

Duthie employs seven staff, widely regarded as the most knowledgeable in the city.

"I think this store is really important to the neighbourhood and to the city," said staffer Michael Varty, an employee at Duthie for 16 years. "It will leave a real hole in the heart of the city."

"It seems like family-run businesses are going the way of the do-do," he opined.

Duthie Legate is not a believer in debt, especially in a market that is being carved up by retailing giants. Price wars waged by the big box stores have devalued books, she said. "I just don't want to go down that road. It's going to be more common, not less and with Kindle coming it's just too hard."

Duthie Legate admits her only chance for survival would be to own her location. But she doesn't.

Bill Duthie built his business into a city-wide chain through the decades, but "he didn't have much business sense," she recalled.

Some of the locations he opened were financial disasters.

"But we don't do this because we love money," Duthie Legate said. "We do it because we love books."

The Duthies were stunned when Chapters sent agents into their stores to do marketing research, not at their audacity, but because they had never thought of doing research themselves.

...

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Vancouver+Duthie+Books+shut+down+after+years/2459603/story.html

Yume-sama
Jan 20, 2010, 7:51 AM
It'd be hard to run a bookstore nowadays. Frankly, I'm surprised Indigo and Chapters are still surviving at their retail outlets (or do people just go for the Starbucks :P?). I buy books online, albeit from Indigo, and of course e-readers could just make the concept of a bookstore as ancient as the iPod and iTunes has made the concept of a record store, especially as they continue to improve with color. Not really much you can do, I'm afraid!

SpongeG
Jan 20, 2010, 8:16 AM
chapters and indigo home gift section keeps growing

they have some nice frames candles and gifty things

Yume-sama
Jan 20, 2010, 8:16 AM
Hmm, I see. Well, that is kind of smart of them.

SpongeG
Jan 20, 2010, 8:20 AM
yah i guess they have to figure a way to survive

mezzanine
Jan 20, 2010, 8:29 AM
I remember their locations on georgia/granville and robson - the few times i have been to the west 4th store it was always pretty empty of customers

I remember their french-language branch at the manhattan on robson! (i think it was a duthies...) it was where blue-ruby now is - just image that multi-level pocket store just being for books - super-cool...

Now long gone... sophia books on hastings has some of that vibe, though...

SpongeG
Jan 20, 2010, 8:35 AM
yes i remember that store too - i have some pics from inside hehe

SpongeG
Jan 20, 2010, 10:39 AM
would Famima (http://www.famima-usa.com/) work in Vancouver?

wrenegade
Jan 20, 2010, 6:36 PM
Pandora Jewellery is going in on Alberni, next to Calvin Klein underwear. At least I think that was the name, can anyone confirm?

Blake
Jan 20, 2010, 6:38 PM
The leasing plan for Morgan Crossing has been released:

Impressive list of retailers for sure, and some places that my wife is certainly excited to see come out to the burbs:

http://www.theshopsatmorgancrossing.com/files/morgancrossingleaseplan.pdf

In addition to the main anchors of Steve Nash, Thrifty Foods, Best Buy and Winners:

Tommy Bahama, Blo, Bopomo Pictures, Puma, Banana Republic Factory Store, Dunn's Tailors and Caffe Artigiano etc.

Also if anyone knows through the grapevine which restaurants are a possibility for the area? White Spot has committed. Of all the major chains, the only ones really missing from South Surrey are Brown's and Red Robin (off the top of my head). Although I've always thought Earl's might be a candidate to move out of the Semiahmoo Mall towards the Morgan Heights area...

SpongeG
Jan 21, 2010, 10:16 AM
the Granville Street McDonalds is getting a renovation - for the olympics?
also the McDonalds near oak on SW Marine is closed for renos...

officedweller
Jan 21, 2010, 10:51 AM
Odd - maybe new benches to allow more of a holding area on the ground floor.

GeeCee
Jan 21, 2010, 3:01 PM
the Granville Street McDonalds is getting a renovation - for the olympics?
also the McDonalds near oak on SW Marine is closed for renos...

probably.. nearly all of them around Vancouver have been getting brief renos. haven't actually been inside one to see but I know off the top of my head that the two near lougheed mall have been renovated in the past few months as have the mcdonalds on either side of the pne grounds.

hollywoodnorth
Jan 21, 2010, 3:31 PM
would Famima (http://www.famima-usa.com/) work in Vancouver?

I think so. Especially with all the workers and students downtown. I'm a little surprised FamilyMart/Famima is not looking at Vancouver. seems a perfect fit....

but with 7-11 keeping up a good pace on expansion in Vancouver they should be able to freeze out a player like that I think.

osirisboy
Jan 21, 2010, 6:05 PM
wow i didnt realize how big morgan crossing would be. one thing is I find it kinda odd that best buy and future shop are so close to each other, I thought they wanted to have the two stores placed farther apart.

Shibuya
Jan 21, 2010, 6:32 PM
wow i didnt realize how big morgan crossing would be. one thing is I find it kinda odd that best buy and future shop are so close to each other, I thought they wanted to have the two stores placed farther apart.

That always confused me as well but if you look at Lansdowne Centre in Richmond or Pinetree Village / Coquitlam Centre, it's not the first time they have put both so close together. Not quite sure why they choose to especially in Lansdowne Centre's case where they are in the same mall.

SpongeG
Jan 21, 2010, 6:35 PM
so the public thinks they are separate companies and will check em both out

is the winners in the part of south surrey gonna move? shut down?

vancityrox
Jan 21, 2010, 7:13 PM
wow i didnt realize how big morgan crossing would be. one thing is I find it kinda odd that best buy and future shop are so close to each other, I thought they wanted to have the two stores placed farther apart.

Haha, thats nothing. Back home in Montreal's suburb of Laval. They have Best Buy and Future Shop next door to each other. Really strange.

Blake
Jan 21, 2010, 8:57 PM
That always confused me as well but if you look at Lansdowne Centre in Richmond or Pinetree Village / Coquitlam Centre, it's not the first time they have put both so close together. Not quite sure why they choose to especially in Lansdowne Centre's case where they are in the same mall.

I would guess that the company thinks the demographics in these areas could support it.

South Surrey has been underserviced for big box retail for a LONG time and residents have had to to shop in Guildford or Langley for such things.

This area is a sleeping shopping as far as retail spending goes as it's one of the most affluent areas in the country and now has over 100,000 residents in the immediate service.

I think there is no question the area can support both, but there are few areas in South Surrey that are zoned for big box so separating them within the community would not be easy.

All that said when finished, Morgan Crossing combined with Grandview Corners across the street now has over 130 shops and services making it as large as any of the suburban malls - albeit with a slightly better design than a typical shopping mall.

Yume-sama
Jan 21, 2010, 8:58 PM
Haha, thats nothing. Back home in Montreal's suburb of Laval. They have Best Buy and Future Shop next door to each other. Really strange.

There's a couple of those in Calgary, too. :koko: Newly built in new developments.

Blake
Jan 21, 2010, 9:05 PM
I recall when Best Buy first acquired Future Shop they pointed out that there stores would overlap in numerous locations as they felt both offered a considerably different shopping experience.

Future Shop - Commissioned salespeople that are generally more helpful, have greater product knowledge. Better if you don't know what you want and need your hand held.

Best Buy - More of a 'window shopping' experience, where you can try before you buy in peace. Better if you know what you want.

Yume-sama
Jan 21, 2010, 9:08 PM
That used to be true for Future Shop. You would see older people working there, who knew what they were talking about. My brother worked there 10 years ago or so. However, since then they have slashed commission rates by a substantial amount, and, they don't provide a good base pay like Best Buy, SO, at least in my experience, you very rarely see someone who is over their early 20's (most often younger), and not really that knowledgeable.

Frankly, I choose Best Buy where possible so I'm not pestered by some teenager who wants his $10 or whatever :P

SpongeG
Jan 21, 2010, 9:15 PM
there still people who think HomeSense and Winners are different companies - I've heard in the last few weeks people only knowing that - I was in winners and this woman had bought a lamp at homesense and she was talking about the price with a store employee at winners and he said oh winners owns that store we are the same and the woman was shocked how could you not know that? so many of them are combined into one store - and than before that at the one in burnaby - a guy goes to his girlfriend oh look honey theres homesense you might like that store and she goes yeah we'll go there after we check out winners - they have separate entrances and signs on the outside but inside is all one store...

SpongeG
Jan 21, 2010, 9:16 PM
That used to be true for Future Shop. You would see older people working there, who knew what they were talking about. My brother worked there 10 years ago or so. However, since then they have slashed commission rates by a substantial amount, and, they don't provide a good base pay like Best Buy, SO, at least in my experience, you very rarely see someone who is over their early 20's (most often younger), and not really that knowledgeable.

Frankly, I choose Best Buy where possible so I'm not pestered by some teenager who wants his $10 or whatever :P

they turn over staff fast - they have high quotas and if they don't meet em they get slashed

officedweller
Jan 21, 2010, 11:52 PM
Pacific Centre has odd looking red and white banners (horizontal) hanging from the ceiling. They look more "Muskoka" rather than West Coast.

SpongeG
Jan 21, 2010, 11:59 PM
i saw those they have em outside too

osirisboy
Jan 22, 2010, 12:24 AM
I recall when Best Buy first acquired Future Shop they pointed out that there stores would overlap in numerous locations as they felt both offered a considerably different shopping experience.

Future Shop - Commissioned salespeople that are generally more helpful, have greater product knowledge. Better if you don't know what you want and need your hand held.

Best Buy - More of a 'window shopping' experience, where you can try before you buy in peace. Better if you know what you want.

I was under the impression that they completely got rid of commissions. I really see or feel no difference between the two stores

SpongeG
Jan 22, 2010, 12:30 AM
i love how they price the exact same item differently and than "match and beat" the price

SpongeG
Jan 22, 2010, 11:44 PM
The Source on Davie (@Burrard) has shut down

it would be a great location for Five guys...

also Target annopunced it wants to expand into Canada within the next 5 years! they hope to have a store in 3 years or so...

wrenegade
Jan 25, 2010, 7:23 PM
Future Shop and Best Buy both have stores in South Edmonton Common (large big box development at Hwy 2 & Anthony Henday) and both are top 3 in sales for the chains country-wide.

officedweller
Jan 25, 2010, 8:44 PM
The "Watch It" store in R&R on Robson is now "Oakley".

wrenegade
Jan 26, 2010, 5:10 AM
^really? do they sell more than just sunglasses/goggles? They make some great streetwear/outerwear.

SpongeG
Jan 26, 2010, 8:36 AM
the oakley store in metrotown sells clothes and more

GeeCee
Jan 31, 2010, 5:27 PM
The McDonalds around town (at least the ones that have undergone the recent renovations) now seem to have a recording that greets you as you first drive up to the drive-thru.. it's kinda weird.

That half-empty retail building at Hastings & Sperling in Burnaby is finally being redeveloped. They've stripped the building bare down to the beams. I think TD may be the primary tenant if the picture on the redevelopment sign which has been up for a long time is any indication..

LotusLand
Jan 31, 2010, 7:29 PM
There is a Pandora (Jewelry store??) opening up on Alberni between CK underwear and Memphisto I think. Still wondering who will take up that space across from Burberry (the old Ritz Carlton Sales site)??? I'd like to see something high end to tie in that block.

Locked In
Feb 1, 2010, 12:00 AM
Yaletown Mini has almost finished moving out of the 1100 block of Hamilton, and is moving into the old EQ furniture space on the 1000 block.

And I don't recall this being mentioned on here, but I may have missed it - Hapa Izakaya opened their 3rd location a couple of weeks ago next to Cactus Club on Hamilton. My photo, taken today:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/S2YYo6dInlI/AAAAAAAACcM/BHE2PlwYJFc/s800/IMG_3320.jpg

Yume-sama
Feb 1, 2010, 12:03 AM
Nice, I'll have to check it out. Hopefully it has some good authentic Izakaya food.

vansky
Feb 1, 2010, 12:07 AM
check out the new mcdonald deco on marine drive close to oak street...it's pretty neat, but maybe too nice for the food...which is junk

osirisboy
Feb 1, 2010, 12:59 AM
ugh another asian restaurant although there aren't too many around there.

I was hoping a restuarant would go into the eq3 with a nice big patio, oh well.

Locked In
Feb 1, 2010, 2:07 AM
^ IMO, Yaletown desperately needs casual dining places like this - plus, like you said, there aren't a ton of asian places in Yaletown. I've been hoping for a while that an Izakaya place would move in, so I'm pleased.
I also noticed that there's a restaurant called Charlies (I think) next to Society - is that new?

SpongeG
Feb 1, 2010, 2:17 AM
they need a mcdonalds or cheap fast food place too

hollywoodnorth
Feb 1, 2010, 2:22 AM
Hapa Izakaya also is expending their Robson Location for the 2nd time.

hollywoodnorth
Feb 1, 2010, 2:26 AM
they need a mcdonalds or cheap fast food place too

subway and 7-11 not enough for you? ;)

Yume-sama
Feb 1, 2010, 2:27 AM
Hapa Izakaya also is expending their Robson Location for the 2nd time.

Oh? Is it pretty good?

vancityrox
Feb 1, 2010, 2:38 AM
The "Watch It" store in R&R on Robson is now "Oakley".

The store is only going to be open for 6 weeks. Not sure if anyone knew.

Its too bad. Its nice to see some brand name retail on that side of Robson.

SpongeG
Feb 1, 2010, 2:39 AM
subway and 7-11 not enough for you? ;)

nope not that i eat there but the area doesn't have that option there are some nerd geek companies down there they must like mickey d's

Yume-sama
Feb 1, 2010, 2:39 AM
I wonder why they don't think Oakley could survive here permanently.

vancityrox
Feb 1, 2010, 2:48 AM
I wonder why they don't think Oakley could survive here permanently.

Yeah, considering the fact that they sell amazing skiing gear and Vancouver is a hotbed for winter sports.

I know that in Montreal, the store does VERY well. You see too many people with the big Oakley shades. Its become somewhat of a French Canadian thing now haha.

SpongeG
Feb 1, 2010, 2:58 AM
its sort of off the main shopping though isn;t it? its near the library?

wrenegade
Feb 1, 2010, 7:23 PM
How have you people not been to Hapa Izakaya? I only knew of their Robson street location before (where is the 2nd?), but it is awesome. Not only great food, but easily one of the best value restaurants in the city.

entheosfog
Feb 1, 2010, 10:02 PM
Any idea what's going into the Flack Block (Cambie & Hastings) on the corner? I thought there was a money loaning place there but there's hoarding up now.

SpongeG
Feb 1, 2010, 10:36 PM
its a furniture place isn't it

hollywoodnorth
Feb 2, 2010, 12:39 AM
Oh? Is it pretty good?

I'm a Vegetarian so I'm gonna say no....it sucks majorly ;)

now NUBA, NAAM, BUDGIES or FOUNDATION on the other hand.......YUM YUM YUM :) :cheers:

Yume-sama
Feb 2, 2010, 1:06 AM
I'm a Vegetarian so I'm gonna say no....it sucks majorly ;)

now NUBA, NAAM, BUDGIES or FOUNDATION on the other hand.......YUM YUM YUM :) :cheers:

No veggie tempura :P?

Has JapaDog on Robson opened yet? They're only about 2.5 months behind schedule.

Good thing they're gonna sell A LOT of HotDogs, or this little venture could have sunk them.

CPE
Feb 2, 2010, 1:08 AM
No veggie tempura :P?

Has JapaDog on Robson opened yet? They're only about 2.5 months behind schedule.

Good thing they're gonna sell A LOT of HotDogs, or this little venture could have sunk them.

Where exactly on Robson is their store?

Yume-sama
Feb 2, 2010, 1:12 AM
Beside the Beard Papa's! :D

Between Richards and Seymour / Robson across from the Telus Store, or thereabouts, beside where the Sil Vous Plait cafe was.

delboy
Feb 2, 2010, 1:35 AM
Any idea what's going into the Flack Block (Cambie & Hastings) on the corner? I thought there was a money loaning place there but there's hoarding up now.

a coffee shop i think. the money mart moved across the street some time ago.

jlousa
Feb 2, 2010, 1:40 AM
In the Flack building there is a higher end home furnishing store, and a Bean Around the World is getting very close to opening up. Not sure what is going into the corner, but it will not be a money mart.:tup:

SpongeG
Feb 2, 2010, 3:54 AM
oh yes bean around the world - we saw some signage when my friend and I walked past a couple weeks ago - but there other spot is going to be a furniture or is it all one space?

hollywoodnorth
Feb 2, 2010, 4:46 AM
what happened with the FORMER STOREYUM site?

I thought a high end furniture store was gonna go in? and a fitness center?

jlousa
Feb 2, 2010, 4:57 AM
There is a furniture class on the water st side of the old Storyeum, on the Cordova side there isn't anything permenant, they had a x-mas fair there and now there is some kind of arts and craft fair again. Think the eco fitness thing fell thru and it was now supposed to be a family entertainment place, arcade/bowling lanes etc but I haven't heard anything in almost a year.

SpongeG
Feb 2, 2010, 5:01 AM
i thought the city turned down the proposal? i don't know which one though

jlousa
Feb 2, 2010, 5:47 AM
The city had chosen the fitness place over the entertainment place but the fitness place fell thru so they ended up choosing the entertainment place after all.

entheosfog
Feb 3, 2010, 2:45 AM
:previous: Thanks guys! Bean Around the World sounds like a great addition to the area. I can't wait to see those store fronts on the south side of the 100 Block of West Hastings across from Woodwards filled up. They've been vacant for a long long time.

Skook
Feb 3, 2010, 4:39 AM
There's a new restaurant opening up in the Paris Block as well, east of Woodwards, towards Save on Meats. Talk about gutsy, but the way things are turning around - I see progress in the short term all the way up to the Carall Street Greenway - it may not be such a crazy move after all.

It will be called the Acme Cafe and has some people involved from some name restaurants around town. Will supposedly specialize in comfort food. And pies.

On Hastings Street! Who'd-a-thunk-it?

hollywoodnorth
Feb 3, 2010, 4:58 AM
There's a new restaurant opening up in the Paris Block as well, east of Woodwards, towards Save on Meats. Talk about gutsy, but the way things are turning around - I see progress in the short term all the way up to the Carall Street Greenway - it may not be such a crazy move after all.

It will be called the Acme Cafe and has some people involved from some name restaurants around town. Will supposedly specialize in comfort food. And pies.

On Hastings Street! Who'd-a-thunk-it?

well no less gutsy then Campagnolo at 1020 Main Street. They have been doing very well since they opened a few years back.....

SpongeG
Feb 3, 2010, 8:37 AM
i was at duthis books tonight - that place is really cleared out considering the sale just started on the 28th - not much left but they had some cool skyscraper and city books if anyone is looking...

also Pulse has a store called "Greens" opening soon - looks like a capers style store

officedweller
Feb 3, 2010, 7:26 PM
Yeah, considering the fact that they sell amazing skiing gear and Vancouver is a hotbed for winter sports.

I know that in Montreal, the store does VERY well. You see too many people with the big Oakley shades. Its become somewhat of a French Canadian thing now haha.

Thaks for the info.

Maybe if it does well they'll upen up a downtown location permanently

officedweller
Feb 3, 2010, 7:42 PM
Info sent around to Pacific Centre tenants -
Mall open to 11:00 pm during the Games (except Sundays til 7:00pm)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6496/27719831.png (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/27719831.png/)

phesto
Feb 3, 2010, 8:08 PM
Looks like the retail space (former Crime Lab corner) in the Flatiron has been leased. The signage up on the windows is for Virani Real Estate, so it appears that it will be a residential real estate sales office.

I hope it's short term. Otherwise, it would be very disappointing. This is something you expect in a resort, not a "cosmopolitan" city like Vancouver. How about a service that area residents can use? Luxury real estate sales??? Really?..:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Yume-sama
Feb 3, 2010, 8:19 PM
Maybe that's just the real estate responsible for leasing it out?

In groundbreaking hotdog news, JapaDog will begin selling Kobe Beef hotdogs soon. And yes it will be American imitation Kobe beef, as Japanese Kobe beef is *illegal* in Canada.

Maybe whenever their store opens?

johnjimbc
Feb 3, 2010, 8:55 PM
Unfortunately it's probably not short-term, but I don't think anyone should get worked up about the tenant. I suspect the situation is similar to a retail space in a very healthy neighborhood I worked near in DC.

There a heritage building was expanded, and the expansion created 5 or 6 cute little new retail spaces. The neighborhood residents and council were all delighted at the things they envisioned there to augment the already nice retail mix of the commercial strip. I remember thinking what great little spaces they would be for shops as well.

Unfortunately, the lease terms being asked for the spaces were exorbitant compared to the surrounding area, and after months and months every single one of the spaces sat empty. Finally, a long-time real estate brokerage who had occupied a small office on the opposite side of the street for several years offered to lease the entire space. The local neighborhood commission was quite irritated initially, and the broker of the office had to do quite a bit of hand-holding so they didn't come out against it, which could have gummed up the bureaucracy of the move even if it didn't halt it. Eventually the commission gave its blessing, and the brokerage office shifted to the much larger combined space across the street, where it remains to this day.

The point being is the broker was the only tenant willing to accept the spaces and pay even close to the lease terms the owner of the expanded building was asking. At some point the neighborhood had to weigh having vacant spaces with having a viable business occupying and maintaining and even improving the space (cleaning sidewalks, landscaping the tree beds along the street, etc).

Having a viable business of any type in the new building may even encourage other retailers in the area, even if they won't occupy those specific places. That's just how the market works sometimes. It's not necessarily the tenants one might want to see, but instead the tenants who find the terms of the lease acceptable.

That may not be the case in this specific instance, but I've seen it play out before so thought I'd offer that perspective.

P.S. Or it could be what Yume suggested, in which case never mind ;)

SpongeG
Feb 3, 2010, 9:42 PM
good to know Pacific Centre will be open late - do you think other stores malls in the city wil at least stay open till 9 6 days a week?

phesto
Feb 3, 2010, 9:52 PM
Unfortunately it's probably not short-term, but I don't think anyone should get worked up about the tenant. I suspect the situation is similar to a retail space in a very healthy neighborhood I worked near in DC.

There a heritage building was expanded, and the expansion created 5 or 6 cute little new retail spaces. The neighborhood residents and council were all delighted at the things they envisioned there to augment the already nice retail mix of the commercial strip. I remember thinking what great little spaces they would be for shops as well.

Unfortunately, the lease terms being asked for the spaces were exorbitant compared to the surrounding area, and after months and months every single one of the spaces sat empty. Finally, a long-time real estate brokerage who had occupied a small office on the opposite side of the street for several years offered to lease the entire space. The local neighborhood commission was quite irritated initially, and the broker of the office had to do quite a bit of hand-holding so they didn't come out against it, which could have gummed up the bureaucracy of the move even if it didn't halt it. Eventually the commission gave its blessing, and the brokerage office shifted to the much larger combined space across the street, where it remains to this day.

The point being is the broker was the only tenant willing to accept the spaces and pay even close to the lease terms the owner of the expanded building was asking. At some point the neighborhood had to weigh having vacant spaces with having a viable business occupying and maintaining and even improving the space (cleaning sidewalks, landscaping the tree beds along the street, etc).

Having a viable business of any type in the new building may even encourage other retailers in the area, even if they won't occupy those specific places. That's just how the market works sometimes. It's not necessarily the tenants one might want to see, but instead the tenants who find the terms of the lease acceptable.

That may not be the case in this specific instance, but I've seen it play out before so thought I'd offer that perspective.

P.S. Or it could be what Yume suggested, in which case never mind ;)

There was a Cushman sign that said "leased" and then the Virani signage/window dressing appeared saying "coming soon" - pretty sure this is a new downtown sales office for them. (they haven't done commercial leasing anyway).

johnjim - I think you've nailed it on the head as far as this real estate company being the only one willing to lease the space. This is the economic reality of retail leasing in the area, and I can understand the Landlord's reasoning (ie. they pretty much have to accept whatever tenant pays the most); and the market for retail in Coal Harbour is tough right now, particularly as you move West from Bute. The retail in the Ritz building along Bute still has yet to lease after almost a year; Citrus Cafe at Bute and Melville recently closed...

It is just a disappointment given the prominent corner location and cool nature of this space. When I think of other places where realtors are outbidding retailers for space I think Whistler, Kelowna, but not Downtown Vancouver - a tad concerning...:uhh:

Hopefully things will pick up in Coal Harbour for retail - my only concern is that the area is getting close to built-out, so I'm not sure where retailers view there to be growth in pedestrian traffic.

duener
Feb 3, 2010, 11:05 PM
I don't see what the problem is with having a realtor's office occupy retail space. You see that all over the UK/Europe. Pick any town, go for a walk down the high street there will always be cafe/shops/realtors offices.

In the windows, they usually have pictures of properties for sale/rent in the area; so at night people passing by stop and gaze. During the day the space is animated because it's an office, so you can see the realtors going about their business.

It's an interesting question though: how much street-side retail space can downtown absorb? I guess the market will decide and it's nice to have alternatives to the usual cafe/convenient shop/restaurant mix.

SpongeG
Feb 3, 2010, 11:22 PM
the 7-11 down that area is a good addition

officedweller
Feb 4, 2010, 5:16 AM
Bean Around the World was on the news tonight for handing out cards to regular customers because they were going to raise prices and gouge the tourists during the Olympics (that's what the saleclerks told customers) - the cards would identify "regulars" who would get a lower price.

When contacted by the news (CTV?) they denied that prices would be increased and said that the cards would allow regulars to get preferential treatment and bypass line-ups.

The story also said that Cactus Club would be increasing prices about 3% at the downtown locations to cover increased costs of operating during the Games (late night deliveries, etc.).

jlousa
Feb 4, 2010, 5:29 AM
I heard that Earls is going to be adding gratuity to it's bills during the games, apparently a few restarants will be adding upto 20% on their bills. They claim they are doing it as they need to bring in staff from other locations to deal with the increased traffic and need incentive for their staff. (I hate that pratice and refuse to go anywhere that does that, if they deserve a tip that's my desicion as is how much it should be)
The Joeys On Burrard by Robson will be rented out by Bosco Sports for 10 nights during the game, the one at Pender will have it's Patio converted to a Stella Artois beer garden.

SpongeG
Feb 4, 2010, 8:50 AM
they also claimed that europeans don't tip so this is to ensure they do basically

phesto
Feb 4, 2010, 4:13 PM
Apparently A&W has leased one of the spaces next to the new (upcoming) liquor store on Alberni & Bute.

officedweller
Feb 4, 2010, 6:07 PM
The Gyudonya restaurant (former S'il Vous Plait) has a big bright orange awning up and the fluorescent lighting behind the glass block was lit up this mornig. Looks good. (Note that the signs previously said the name was "Gyu Don Gyu")

Still no visible progress on Japadog (plywood hoardings and old awnings still up).

dreambrother808
Feb 4, 2010, 7:15 PM
A few months ago, Starbucks raised their prices in BC only, obviously in preparation for the games.

Yume-sama
Feb 4, 2010, 7:27 PM
The Gyudonya restaurant (former S'il Vous Plait) has a big bright orange awning up and the fluorescent lighting behind the glass block was lit up this mornig. Looks good. (Note that the signs previously said the name was "Gyu Don Gyu")

Still no visible progress on Japadog (plywood hoardings and old awnings still up).

Gyudonya definitely makes more sense grammatically than Gyu Don Gyu :jester:

GeeCee
Feb 4, 2010, 7:35 PM
Important Japadog on Robson update for Yume..

As of yesterday, it's not open yet.

:jester:

officedweller
Feb 4, 2010, 7:36 PM
So what does it mean?
Beef noodle or something?

Yume-sama
Feb 4, 2010, 7:37 PM
Important Japadog on Robson update for Yume..

As of yesterday, it's not open yet.

:jester:

:hell: This is ridiculous. I have so many questions about this restaurant.

Like, how will they preserve the JapaDog taste? Will they be barbecuing... inside?! I just don't know. :frog:

They've also been teasing us with new kinds of JapaDog, like a Tempura dog. Will this be a Japanese corndog, or will they just put tempura flakes on top?!?

THE WORLD MUST KNOW.

So what does it mean?
Beef noodle or something?

Gyudon can be translated as Beef Bowl. Gyu Don Gyu would have been Beef Bowl Beef.

What a beef bowl might look like :P But unlikely to be what you'll see in Canada. I think most would freak out about the raw egg?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Gyudon_by_jetalone_in_Higashi-Ginza%2C_Tokyo.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gyudon_by_jetalone_in_Higashi-Ginza,_Tokyo.jpg

There are several BIG chains of Gyudon restaurants in Japan, like Yoshinoya, and Sukiya.

officedweller
Feb 4, 2010, 7:39 PM
What does the "ya" mean?
- oh, so it's not soup?

In groundbreaking hotdog news, JapaDog will begin selling Kobe Beef hotdogs soon. And yes it will be American imitation Kobe beef, as Japanese Kobe beef is *illegal* in Canada.

One friend, whenever she goes to Glowbal etc. always presses them to admit it's not Kobe beef (meatballs), but Wagyu beef. But they never do.

GeeCee
Feb 4, 2010, 7:43 PM
:hell: This is ridiculous. I have so many questions about this restaurant.

Like, how will they preserve the JapaDog taste? Will they be barbecuing... inside?! I just don't know. :frog:

They've also been teasing us with new kinds of JapaDog, like a Tempura dog. Will this be a Japanese corndog, or will they just put tempura flakes on top?!?

THE WORLD MUST KNOW.

Hahaha.. I think you might have a problem. :tup:

FWIW their website now says Mid-Feb 2010 where it said end of Jan 2010 a few days ago. We can only hope that it'll be open in time for the Olympics..

Yume-sama
Feb 4, 2010, 7:46 PM
What does the "ya" mean?
- oh, so it's not soup?

"ya" is one of the many things in Japanese where there is no real meaning, and you don't really know how it came to exist.

In this form, it just means the place is a shop.

Sukiya, Yoshinoya, Konbiniya... :P So, I guess, literally Gyudonya, would be a beef bowl shop. Very to the point lol

officedweller
Feb 4, 2010, 8:30 PM
Cool. Thanks.