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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:14 PM
Skyscraperpage Archives - previous Canada Line topic: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=112753&page=76





Here you will find the most indepth information resource of the construction of a rapid transit rail line at Skyscraperpage.



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INTRODUCTION

The Canada Line, formerly known as the Richmond-Airport-Vancouver Rapid Transit Rail Line ("RAV Line"), is a new 19-km automated rapid transit line of the Greater Vancouver Transportation Authority (TransLink) currently under construction. The line is being built and will be operated by a private sector engineering firm, SNC-Lavalin (InTransitBC), for 35 years.

The line will be the third for Vancouver, Canada and will be added to the existing rapid transit system but will not use linear induction motor technology, rather standard third rail technology. Despite the fact the line will use different technology, it is unclear whether or not it will be branded "SkyTrain" as the other two existing lines.

The Canada Line will connect downtown Vancouver to the Vancouver International Airport and Richmond City Centre in time for the 2010 Winter Olympics. The line is expected to carry 100,000 passengers per day at launch on November 29, 2009 and 142,000 passengers by 2021.

CONSTRUCTION BEGAN IN SEPTEMBER 2005 AND WILL BE COMPLETED ON NOVEMBER 29, 2009.

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ROUTE

The Vancouver section of the line will run underground from Waterfront Station, with a cut-and-cover tunnel under Granville Street between Hastings and Dunsmuir and a bored tunnel under Granville and Davie Street and False Creek to the 2nd Avenue station on Cambie Street, where it will run as a cut-and-cover tunnel as far as 64th Avenue with the two directions either side-by-side or stacked on separate decks.

From there, the line will be elevated, crossing the North Arm of the Fraser River via a new cable-stayed bridge. At the proposed Bridgeport Station, the line would split, with the main line heading south on an elevated track along Number 3 Road to Richmond City Centre. A branch line will cross the Middle Arm of the Fraser River, connecting Bridgeport Station to stations on Sea Island and terminating at Vancouver International Airport. Portions of the airport branch will be at-grade in order to accommodate a future elevated taxiway for aircraft over the line. In addition, 400 metres of the final segments of the Richmond and Airport branches are single-tracked instead of double tracked to cut project costs and to appease Richmond City Council, which considered the overhead line an eyesore and had been fighting for an at-grade line.

- Elevated: ~7 kms
- At-grade: ~1.7 kms
- Bored tunnel: ~ 2.5 kms
- Cut & cover tunel: ~8 kms
TOTAL: 19 kms

Travel times southbound from downtown Vancouver will be 25 minutes to Richmond Centre and 26 minutes to the airport terminus. Northbound, trains will leave Richmond City Centre and YVR every six minutes heading to Vancouver. The departures will be coordinated to allow for a train every three minutes on the main line in Vancouver.

- Richmond frequency: ~6 minutes
- Airport frequency: ~6 minutes
- Combined Vancouver frequency: ~3 minutes

Bridges
- North Arm Fraser River Bridge
- Middle Arm Fraser River Bridge

The Canada Line tunnel boring machine, "Sweet Leilani"
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FREQUENCY


INTIAL SERVICE PLAN in 2009/2010
7-day frequency (32 vehicles/16 trains required)

Early Morning
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Morning Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Mid-Day
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Afternoon Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 mins 45 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 7 mins 30 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 7 mins 30 secs

Evening
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Late Night
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 10 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 20 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 20 minutes

SERVICE PLAN (will kick in when line gets busier)
7-day frequency (36 vehicles/18 trains required)

Early Morning
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 6 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 12 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 12 minutes

Morning Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Mid-Day
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Afternoon Peak Period
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 3 minutes 10 secs
- Bridgeport to YVR: 6 minutes 20 secs
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 6 minutes 20 secs

Late Night
- Waterfront to Bridgeport: 10 minutes
- Bridgeport to YVR: 20 minutes
- Bridgeport to Richmond Centre: 20 minutes





STATIONS

Stations are proposed to be built in two stages: 16 stations will be built for the line's projected opening prior to the 2010 Winter Olympics, with up to three additional stations being added after the line opens. Stations platforms will range from 40 and 50 metres in length. Stations that are 40 metres are expandable to 50 metres. The proposed stations are listed below.

Vancouver
- Waterfront (connection to Expo and Millennium Lines, West Coast Express and SeaBus) - 50 metres
- Vancouver City Centre (Granville Street at Robson Street) - 50 metres
- Yaletown-Roundhouse (Davie Street near Mainland Street) - 40 metres
- Olympic Village (Vancouver 2010 Olympic Village, SouthEast False Creek, Granville Island) - 40 metres
- Broadway-City Hall (Cambie Street at West Broadway) - 50 metres
- King Edward (Cambie Street at King Edward Avenue) - 40 metres
- Oakridge-41st Avenue (Cambie Street at West 41st Avenue, next to Oakridge Centre) - 50 metres
- Langara-49th Avenue (Cambie Street at West 49th Avenue) - 40 metres
- Marine Drive (Cambie Street at Southwest Marine Drive) - 40 metres

Richmond
- Bridgeport (north of Bridgeport Road in Richmond; major transit exchange for suburban buses; new 1,000 car park and ride; link to Airport branch) - 40 metres
- Aberdeen (No. 3 Road at Cambie Road) - 40 metres
- Lansdowne (No. 3 Road at Lansdowne Road; 2-3 blocks away from the Richmond Olympic Oval speed skating venue) - 40 metres
- Richmond-Brighouse (No. 3 Road at Cook Road, adjacent to the Richmond Centre shopping mall) - 50 metres

Vancouver International Airport
- Templeton (to be located north of Grant McConachie Way, near Templeton Street) - 40 metres
- Sea Island Centre (to be located on Grant McConachie Way, near the Air Canada service centre) - 40 metres
- YVR-Airport Terminal (adjacent to the main terminal of Vancouver International Airport) - 50 metres

Future stations post-2010
- 33rd Avenue (Cambie Street at West 33rd Avenue, next to Queen Elizabeth Park in Vancouver)
- 57th Avenue (Cambie Street at West 57th Avenue in Vancouver)
- Capstan Way (No. 3 Road at Capstan Way in Vancouver)
- YVR-3 (Vancouver International Airport future terminal expansion)

Station architects
- Segment One: Downtown (Waterfront, Vancouver City Centre and Yaletown-Roundhouse Stations) – VIA Architecture & PBK;
- Segment Two: North Cambie (Olympic Village and Broadway-City Hall Stations) – Stantec;
- Segment Three: Central Cambie (King Edward, Oakridge-41st Avenue and Langara-49th Avenue Stations) – Hotson Bakker Boniface Haden;
- Segment Four: Fraser River (Marine Drive and Bridgeport Stations) – VIA Architecture & PBK;
- Segment Five: No 3 Road (Aberdeen, Lansdowne and Richmond-Brighouse Stations) – Busby Perkins Will;
- Segment Six: Sea Island (Templeton Station, Sea Island Centre Stations) – Walter Francl;
- Segment Seven: Sea Island/Terminal (YVR-Airport Station) – Kasian Architects.



TECHNOLOGY

The Canada Line will not use the proprietary Bombardier Advanced Rapid Transit linear induction technology, but rather another fully automated transit vehicle using more conventional motors than the linear induction motor used in trains on the Expo and Millennium lines. The Request For Proposals also required that the system have an ultimate capacity of 15,000 pphpd (leaving the choice of technology and platform length to the proponent) and required a maximum travel time between YVR and downtown Vancouver of 24 minutes. The new line will also be automated like the other two existing lines.





COST

CAN$2.05 BILLION
- Government of Canada: $300 million
- Government of British Columbia: $400 million
- Greater Vancouver Transportation Authority (Translink): $400 million
- Vancouver International Airport: $250 million
- InTransitBC (SNC-Lavalin; private sector): $650+ million

mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:16 PM
VEHICLES

The trains (ROTEM EMU) will be designed and built in South Korea by Rotem Company, a division of Hyundai Motor Group.

In total twenty fully-automated articulated trains are on order. Capacity of the new trains is estimated at 334 people, with a top speed of 80 km/h. Married pairs of gangway connected cars will be 41 metres long and 3 metres wide, both longer and wider than the ART fleet used by the current SkyTrain lines, and will have electronic ‘Next Destination’ signs on each train. These trains are currently used by Hong Kong's MTR and KCR.

Each articulated train costs $3 million; $1.5 million for each car; a total of $60-million for 20 trains/40 vehicles.

Technical Summary
- Train Configuration: 2-car trains
- Maximum speed: 80 km/h
- End to End Journey time: 25-26 mins
- Passenger capacity: 400 per train
- Seating configuration: Side-by-side transverse seats, flip-up seats at wheelchair and bicycle positions
- Bicycle accommodation: 2 per train
- Wheelchair accomodation: 4 per train
- Length: 41 metres
- Width: 3 metres
- Height: 3.6 metres
- Weight: 76 tonnes empty

Features
- Air conditioned interior
- Wide aisles between seats for smooth passenger flow
- Walkway between vehicles
- Accessible for wheelchairs, strollers and bicycles
- Passenger silent alarm
- Emergency passenger-operated intercom panels
- Electronic “Next Station” signs in each train
- Electronic “Destination” signs on the outside of each train
- Public Address System announcing next stations
- Modern vandal-resistant finishes
- Silver stainless steel exterior
- Fully automated and driverless operations


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Canada Line train incomplete from the factory in South Korea
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Update - September 2007
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First four trains loaded on to a ship in South Korea in November '07 - bound for Vancouver in December '07. Images courtesy of Canada Line Project Office.

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:17 PM
WATERFRONT STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:18 PM
VANCOUVER CITY CENTRE STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:19 PM
YALETOWN-ROUNDHOUSE STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:19 PM
OLYMPIC VILLAGE STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:20 PM
BROADWAY/CITY HALL STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:21 PM
KING EDWARD STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:22 PM
OAKRIDGE-41ST AVENUE STATION

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Station entrance and general platform design for King Edward, Oakridge-41st, and Langara-49th Avenue Stations:
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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:22 PM
LANGARA-49TH AVENUE STATION

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Station entrance and general platform design for King Edward, Oakridge-41st, and Langara-49th Avenue Stations:
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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:23 PM
MARINE DRIVE STATION

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TUNNEL PORTAL JUST NORTH OF MARINE DRIVE STATION
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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:23 PM
CANADA LINE NORTH ARM FRASER RIVER BRIDGE

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Illustration of the bridge over the North Arm of the Fraser River.

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Illustration of bicycle and pedestrian path, North Arm Fraser Bridge.

The Canada Line consists of an extradosed precast segmental box girder bridge with continuous deck of 562 m (1844 ft.). The 180 m (590 ft.) main span provides comfortable clearance to the 150 m (492 ft.) wide main navigation channel. The 139 m (456 ft.) wide side span easily clears the 57 m (187 ft.) wide north navigation channel. The locations of the substructures for these spans avoid direct encroachment upon the environmentally sensitive shoreline areas of the Fraser River.

The Crossing includes two main pylons (45 m/143 ft. high) and two approach piers on each side of the North Arm. The pylons above deck at the main piers are designed in steel and provide anchorage for the extradosed main span tendons. The bridge is also designed to carry a pedestrian/bikeway over the North Arm.

mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:24 PM
BRIDGEPORT OPERATIONS & MAINTENANCE CENTRE

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:24 PM
BRIDGEPORT STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:25 PM
TEMPLETON STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:25 PM
SEA ISLAND CENTRE STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:26 PM
YVR-AIRPORT STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:27 PM
ABERDEEN STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:27 PM
LANSDOWNE STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:28 PM
RICHMOND-BRIGHOUSE STATION

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:28 PM
Richmond's No.3 Road Redevelopment

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mr.x2
09-25-2007, 09:33 PM
Error delays Canada Line construction
Miscalculation on Cambie Street section extends timeline by a week, adds to cost

Kelly Sinoski, Vancouver Sun
Published: Tuesday, September 25, 2007

VANCOUVER - Construction crews will have to redo a section of a stacked tunnel along Cambie Street after a miscalculation narrowed parts of the tunnel by between 20 and 46 centimetres.

The discovery was made when the crew remeasured the top tunnel, which is being excavated along Cambie Street between 11th and 12th avenues, and found two sections were too narrow.

One was out by 20 centimetres (eight inches); the other by 46 centimetres (18 inches).

The sections, which have already been dug and reinforced with shotcrete -- or spray-on concrete -- will now have to be redone, said Steve Crombie, spokesman for InTransitBC.

This will delay the building of the tunnel -- pouring the concrete and adding metal frames -- by more than a week and add extra costs to the project.

Crombie would not say how much more it would cost to redo the section, which would only require cutting panels out.

It's a tricky section, he said, because the stacked tunnel is narrower than side-by-side tunnel configurations. But he added it would not affect the completion date for that section of the tunnel, which is set for the end of December.

"It's not going to throw off the completion," he said. "When we're going to pour the tunnel, we want to make sure it's absolutely precise."

Crombie said the Canada Line has already experienced a handful of similar miscalculations, which he said are a "logical normal step in the process."

He insists such problems are built into the $2-billion extension to the Lower Mainland's rapid transit system.

"This is probably the biggest one we've had so far but it's not significant," Crombie said. "One of the beauties of cut-and-cover [tunnels] is that when you run into problems you can leapfrog and go onto another piece."

But Gregor Robertson, NDP MLA for Vancouver-Fairview, said he isn't holding his breath that the project will be completed on time.

"They made big promises to all the merchants in Cambie Village that they'll have this part finished by the end of December," he said.

"The patience of small business owners on Cambie has long been worn out."

Dale Dubberley, owner of Thai Away Home, said she can't take much more of the construction, which was only supposed to disrupt her business for three months. Business is already down 49 per cent with lost revenue of $374,000 since construction began, she said.

Business owners say they have not been offered any compensation and many have already closed.

"I just want this over with; the impact is truly devastating," Dubberley said. "They're creating huge damage to a very small group of dedicated people. I can't understand how this is happening."

ksinoski@png.canwest.com


© The Vancouver Sun 2007

bils
09-25-2007, 10:24 PM
News1130 is stating that the entire project is now slated for completion at the end of December 2009? I thought it was originally due to be finished in Nov 2009? Damn, they're cutting it close.

mr.x2
09-25-2007, 10:36 PM
News1130 is stating that the entire project is now slated for completion at the end of December 2009? I thought it was originally due to be finished in Nov 2009? Damn, they're cutting it close.

According to News 1130's online article about the Canada Line miscalculation, they got their "December 2009 completion" info from the Vancouver Sun.

But they must've misinterpreted wrong since the Vancouver Sun article i posted above says that the Cambie Village cut and cover sections will be completed by THIS December, not the entire line.

"They made big promises to all the merchants in Cambie Village that they'll have this part finished by the end of December," he said.


The Canada Line is still going to be in operation by November 29, 2009.....unless InTransitBC wants to pay penalties for not having the line completed in time, under its contract.

We're still a whole lot better than the Italians and Greeks though. Torino finished their metro exactly a week before their Games.....and Athens was about the same as well.

djh
09-25-2007, 11:26 PM
Bravo Mr. X for such a thorough thread on the tech specs of the Canada Line, and putting it all into one thread. Lots of good stuff in there.

smasher000
09-27-2007, 02:25 AM
good job mr.x2!
nicely done

mr.x2
09-27-2007, 04:10 AM
More pictures by Tafyrn, taken on Sept. 25:


YALETOWN-ROUNDHOUSE STATION
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http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1456.jpg

giallo
09-27-2007, 04:20 AM
The stations are tastefully done; nothing too outlandish, but not boring either. My personal favourite is the Sea Island Center station.

mr.x2
09-27-2007, 04:23 AM
The stations are tastefully done; nothing too outlandish, but not boring either. My personal favourite is the Sea Island Center station.

The final station renderings should be out sometime next month. [and don't expect me to post them all here and on the first page......at least not right away]

SFUVancouver
09-27-2007, 07:22 AM
Very well done mr.x2! Now that's thorough!

mr.x2
09-27-2007, 07:38 AM
More pictures by Tafyrn, taken on Sept. 25:



OLYMPIC VILLAGE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1472.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1466.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1489.jpg





BROADWAY/CITY HALL STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1508.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1511.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1510.jpg

mr.x2
09-27-2007, 07:46 AM
btw, that's your 50-metre platform right there:
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-25/images/KICX1508.jpg

excel
09-27-2007, 10:33 AM
Very impressive work mr. x. Thanks for all the well organized information.

Canadian Mind
09-27-2007, 08:43 PM
wow... 50 meters is short.

officedweller
09-27-2007, 09:24 PM
Tafryn's shots also have good shots of the Loft 495 building and The Rise project.

At the Vancouver City Centre Station, the forms have been removed from a number of concrete columns (so you get a better idea of the platform area) and the formworks are in place to pour the floor above the platform level.

osirisboy
09-28-2007, 02:30 AM
wow... 50 meters is short.

lol did you just realize this now?

the platforms are shorter than the other lines b/c the trains will be wider.

SpongeG
09-28-2007, 02:43 AM
well if they are that short i will never even attempt to ride it :rolleyes:

size queens :haha:

mr.x2
09-28-2007, 06:00 AM
Even more pictures by Tafryn, taken Sept. 26:



BROADWAY/CITY HALL STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1520.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1518.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1522.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1515.jpg








CAMBIE Cut & Cover Tunnel construction
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1525.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1526.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1527.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1534.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1541.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1546.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1552.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1556.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1572.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1567.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1574.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1576.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1588.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1590.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1592.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1559.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1583.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1587.jpg

deasine
09-28-2007, 06:05 AM
^oh that view of downtown is beautiful. I can't wait until I walk out of Broadway Station, seeing a sunset and the cityline.

officedweller
09-28-2007, 08:46 PM
You can see the start of the "roll-over" transition from stacked tunnels to side-by-side tunnels here (the tunnels are side-by-side at Broadway City Hall Station):

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1541.jpg

mr.x2
09-29-2007, 04:37 AM
Pictures from CanadaLine.ca


VANCOUVER CITY CENTRE STATION
http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1617.JPG

http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1616.JPG

http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1615.JPG




NORTH ARM BRIDGE
http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1604.JPG

http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1602.JPG

http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1600.JPG

http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1599.JPG

http://canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1598.JPG

mr.x2
09-30-2007, 03:52 AM
More pictures by Tafryn, taken Sept. 26:


KING EDWARD STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1598.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1599.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1602.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1605.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1606.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1607.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1611.jpg



South section of the station is completed, has been refilled with dirt
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1613.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1615.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-26/images/KICX1614.jpg

mr.x2
09-30-2007, 10:18 PM
More pictures by Tafryn, Sept 27:


VANCOUVER CITY CENTRE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-27/images/KICX1675.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-27/images/KICX1686.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-27/images/KICX1671.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-27/images/KICX1659.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-27/images/KICX1676.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-27/images/KICX1655.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-27/images/KICX1647.jpg

officedweller
10-01-2007, 08:04 PM
Thanks for posting - moving quickly.

The_Henry_Man
10-03-2007, 08:23 AM
I'm planning on going to the Canada Line construction open house tomorrow in Richmond. Anyone else going? Hopefully I can bring home as many useful news as possible.

mr.x2
10-03-2007, 08:30 AM
I'm planning on going to the Canada Line construction open house tomorrow in Richmond. Anyone else going? Hopefully I can bring home as many useful news as possible.

^ too busy, and it's a one-on-one open house - no information display boards.

officedweller
10-03-2007, 09:55 AM
BTW - when the TBM reaches Vancouver City Centre Station, I doubt we'll be able to see it - the concrete floor above the platform level will be in place by then.

officedweller
10-04-2007, 01:39 AM
New Canada Line update on the Richmond Stations, incuding some pics (same ones we've seen before, but Bridgeport pic looks a bit different):

http://www.canadaline.ca/uploads/NewsReleases/News492.pdf

Summary of the testing and Commissioning Phase (starting early 2008):

http://www.canadaline.ca/uploads/NewsReleases/News490.pdf

deasine
10-04-2007, 02:04 AM
^I think it is different. The original one seemed to have a much heavier roof similar to the one at Production Way - University stations (the station which I do not like out of all the stations on the m-line). I like this one actually...

One thing about the rendering... either (A) there are plans to have electric trolley busses in Richmond or (B) the renderes were stupid enough to take an electric trolley bus and put it in the Bridgeport drawing... an old one too =.="

mr.x2
10-04-2007, 03:24 AM
thx for posting those links office, and here's that Bridgeport render:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/974/bridgeportrender1es4.jpg

mr.x2
10-04-2007, 03:35 AM
Some more pics by Tafryn, Sept. 30:


ABERDEEN STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1860.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1866.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1862.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1870.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1871.jpg






LANSDOWNE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1796.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1799.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1832.jpg







RICHMOND-BRIGHOUSE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1755.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1754.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1756.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1766.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1759.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-09-30/images/KICX1778.jpg

tintinium
10-04-2007, 04:53 PM
^I think it is different. The original one seemed to have a much heavier roof similar to the one at Production Way - University stations (the station which I do not like out of all the stations on the m-line). I like this one actually...

One thing about the rendering... either (A) there are plans to have electric trolley busses in Richmond or (B) the renderes were stupid enough to take an electric trolley bus and put it in the Bridgeport drawing... an old one too =.="

i don't think they're stupid... it's not really highlighting the bus system and there are no guide poles. They probably just had the rear end of a bus and put it in there.

officedweller
10-04-2007, 05:49 PM
It is pretty much the same - here's the old render posted by Mr. X and the new one (the roof slopes down on the side not shown in the new pic):

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/4876/bridgeport1qa5.jpg

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/974/bridgeportrender1es4.jpg

SFUVancouver
10-04-2007, 06:56 PM
^ The Canada Line's elevated stations are sure looking more and more like those on the Millennium Line, with Bridgeport station in particular reminding me of the Production Way-SFU station. I think this is a good thing.

While I am still unhappy that the Canada Line may not be branded "SkyTrain" I am happy that they will be virtually indistinguishable to the general public, thus reinforcing the impression that this is an organic continuation of the SkyTrain network. Most people will never know that a private company will be operating the line, nor that the trains are incompatible with SkyTrain. As far as the general public is concerned this will be SkyTrain, just with different trains on a different route. The station tie-in with SkyTrain at Waterfront and the future tie-in at SkyTrain at Broadway will only further reinforce the broader SkyTrain brand.

On a different note I do think there will be some hiccups when the Evergreen Line opens, assuming it will be LRT, and the public is faced with a wholly new technology that doesn't fit with the SkyTrain brand. It will be interesting to see if Translink dubs it 'light rail' or 'LRT' with several different line names, with Evergreen Line to start. Alternatively, and more likely, they will pursue a broader 'Rapid Transit' brand for all rail-based modes and more heavily leverage the individual line names, Expo, Millennium, Canada, Evergreen, etc. The SkyTrain brand is too strong to abandon but its applicability may be stretched thin for the mostly at-grade lines LRT that are to come.

officedweller
10-04-2007, 07:23 PM
Branding doesn't need to reflect reality. The "Underground" or "Subway" isn't always underground. The "El" isn't always elevated.
I think you can expect some segments of any LRT lines to be elevated - leaving at least a thread of a connection to the name.

The only real problem I could see arising is if they do the Boston or Los Angeles route of calling a rapid bus route a "line" - in Boston the Silver Line, I think, and in LA, the Orange Line.
We already have the B-Line brand name firmly established, so that is unlikely.

mr.x2
10-04-2007, 09:08 PM
Bridgeport Station, being the terminus for many bus routes with its huge bus loop, should really be a 50-metre platform rather than 40.

mr.x2
10-05-2007, 06:43 AM
'A bit ahead of schedule'
CANADA LINE
By MATT KIELTYKA, 24 HOURS

Construction crews had some good news to pass on to Richmond residents at a Canada Line open house last night: The end is near.

So close, in fact, that the superstructure for the elevated rapid transit line in Richmond is scheduled to be completed in February.

"We're a bit ahead of schedule. We're talking a matter of months now until the guideway is complete," said Canada Line spokesperson Steve Crombie. "Of course, the stations still have to be built, but that's a more localized process."

That should be welcome news for residents who endured snail-paced traffic along No. 3 Road over the last few months.

Crombie said traffic issues top the list of concerns people in Richmond have expressed - the others being noise and access to businesses - and admits the situation hasn't been easy.

"We've had some problems with the traffic-pattern changes," he said. "But people can see how fast it's coming together and the construction is coming to an end."

Yesterday's open house was the last for 2007, although Crombie said there will be some Canada Line community events coming up later this year.

The_Henry_Man
10-05-2007, 06:47 AM
'A bit ahead of schedule'
CANADA LINE
By MATT KIELTYKA, 24 HOURS

Construction crews had some good news to pass on to Richmond residents at a Canada Line open house last night: The end is near.

So close, in fact, that the superstructure for the elevated rapid transit line in Richmond is scheduled to be completed in February.

"We're a bit ahead of schedule. We're talking a matter of months now until the guideway is complete," said Canada Line spokesperson Steve Crombie. "Of course, the stations still have to be built, but that's a more localized process."

That should be welcome news for residents who endured snail-paced traffic along No. 3 Road over the last few months.

Crombie said traffic issues top the list of concerns people in Richmond have expressed - the others being noise and access to businesses - and admits the situation hasn't been easy.

"We've had some problems with the traffic-pattern changes," he said. "But people can see how fast it's coming together and the construction is coming to an end."

Yesterday's open house was the last for 2007, although Crombie said there will be some Canada Line community events coming up later this year.

LOL.....Sorry for being off topic, but I know the reporter of this news article (but not very well). He used to go to my elementary and high school. I doubt he remembers me though.

Back to topic: Excellent news!! I hope they'll repave No.3 Rd very soon after.

Also, I went to the 16th Ave (and Cambie) C-Line Community and Info place yesterday noon. I've talked to one of the people there and this is what he told me that day (unfortunately, due to sudden changes in my work schedule that day, I couldn't make it to the C- Line Open House at Richmond Inn):

1) Even with the current length of single-tracking sections, it is possible AND doable with confidence that frequency can be increased to 3-4min in the YVR and Richmond portions of the C-Line.

2) If the passenger capacity is reached for the C-Line, the frequency of the trains will be increased.

3) Contrary to what we've talked about in regards to possible station platform extensions beyond 50m, he said that it'll not be possible to extend the platform lengths beyond 50m in the future, because doing so will mean the entire modification to the entire system (the ventilation rooms etc.)

4) He said that given the increase in population of Richmond of only 1.8% (compared to Surrey's around 4%), the required capacity of the C-line is justified. He also added that the goal of putting 120,000ppl in Richmond's downtown will not be realized in the near future, more like in the year 2100 (and this guy was involved in the City of Richmond's city planning before taking his current job with the C-Line), due to limited availability of land and the physical structure of the island (damn, should've mentioned about the population of Vancouver proper, as well as Ladner, Tsawassen and White Rock). But I have a feeling that a lot of ppl are underestimating the population increase in Richmond.

5) YOU GOT TO BE PISSED OFF WITH THE COV UNIONS. If not for the current COV municipal strike, the repaved sections of Cambie St would've been opened to traffic BY NOW. It can't open now because the COV workers are responsible for installing street lights etc on Cambie St. The traffic directions would've been similar to the one just before the cut-and-cover process: the northbound traffic traveling on reopened sections and then switch to the southbound one when it arrives at station sites. He told me that it takes up to around 3 weeks to reopen the sections after repaving the roads, and that's depending on weather.

6) There will be (I guess) one more open house showing the finalized designs of all the C-Line stations, most likely sometime next year

7) I asked about potentially building a pedestrian bridge from Richmond-Brighouse Station directly to Richmond Centre (which is awfully needed) and another potential park-and-ride near that station, and he told me that the relationship between InTransitBC and Richmond Centre wasn't very good compared to Aberdeen Mall (where its owners are more than willing to expand to integrate the station with its mall). The owners of Richmond Centre wasn't willing to give up any space for a park-and-ride in their current parking lot. But I think they should build it near that station because I, or anyone living near Steveston area seriously don't want to drive ALL THE WAY to Bridgeport (too much traffic on Garden City now) if they don't want take a bus to transfer to the Skytrain. I doubt the talks about building the pedestrian bridge got anywhere either.

8) The construction of Capstan Station is very likely to be built. However, InTransitBC is now recalculating the cost due to modifying the system by incorporating the station. He said it's most likely to be over $15 million needed for that station.

9) He told me the news media covering the mistakes done on the tunneling in the sections around 11th-12th Ave was exaggerating. It was rather a minor problem and the problem is now fixed. The just had to chop more of the sides of the trench. In fact, it's a normal occurrence for projects like this and it happened before on the C-Line. I guess those mistakes were never serious enough to be covered by the media.

10) He has heard about the SSC and SSP forums.

deasine
10-05-2007, 07:20 AM
^ The Canada Line's elevated stations are sure looking more and more like those on the Millennium Line, with Bridgeport station in particular reminding me of the Production Way-SFU station. I think this is a good thing.

While I am still unhappy that the Canada Line may not be branded "SkyTrain" I am happy that they will be virtually indistinguishable to the general public, thus reinforcing the impression that this is an organic continuation of the SkyTrain network. Most people will never know that a private company will be operating the line, nor that the trains are incompatible with SkyTrain. As far as the general public is concerned this will be SkyTrain, just with different trains on a different route. The station tie-in with SkyTrain at Waterfront and the future tie-in at SkyTrain at Broadway will only further reinforce the broader SkyTrain brand.


I completely agree with you. I think all rapid transit that is automated should be branded SkyTrain. Honestly if all of you haven't told me that it will be run by InTransitBC I would never have known. Actually I was VERY surprised when I heard about this... Adding to the fact that the trains reach to the Airport. When tourists come and take the Canada Line, they wouldn't know Vancouver's rapid transit network is called SkyTrain unless they look at the system maps or take the SkyTrains..

mr.x2
10-05-2007, 07:37 AM
1) Even with the current length of single-tracking sections, it is possible AND doable with confidence that frequency can be increased to 3-4min in the YVR and Richmond portions of the C-Line.

2) If the passenger capacity is reached for the C-Line, the frequency of the trains will be increased.

That's very good to know. It'll be quite similar to the current SkyTrain frequency in Surrey during peak hours, and similar in capacity too since a 4-car Mark I train is equivalent to the articulated Canada Line train.


3) Contrary to what we've talked about in regards to possible station platform extensions beyond 50m, he said that it'll [b]not[b] be possible to extend the platform lengths beyond 50m in the future, because doing so will mean the entire modification to the entire system (the ventilation rooms etc.)

That's what I thought too. Really, these should've been 60 metre platforms. 40 and 50 are just too small. It's not just about capacity, but people like space - they don't want to be waiting for a train at a crowded station....and they need room to maneuver around, getting on and getting off.




5) YOU GOT TO BE PISSED OFF WITH THE COV UNIONS. If not for the current COV municipal strike, the repaved sections of Cambie St would've been opened to traffic BY NOW. It can't open now because the COV workers are responsible for installing street lights etc on Cambie St. The traffic directions would've been similar to the one just before the cut-and-cover process: the northbound traffic traveling on reopened sections and then switch to the southbound one when it arrives at station sites. He told me that it takes up to around 3 weeks to reopen the sections after repaving the roads, and that's depending on weather.

Dry and warm weather would be the absolute best conditions for paving roads......and since the union strike went on throughout the entire summer and now we're getting into rainy and cold weather.....argh!



9) He told me the news media covering the mistakes done on the tunneling in the sections around 11th-12th Ave was exaggerating. It was rather a minor problem and the problem is now fixed. The just had to chop more of the sides of the trench. In fact, it's a normal occurrence for projects like this and it happened before on the C-Line. I guess those mistakes were never serious enough to be covered by the media.

Not surprising to hear, the media has exaggerrated and sensationalized a lot of things about the Canada Line. They keep calling it a $2 billion line, but fail to ever mention $700 million is from the private sector.



10) He has heard about the SSC and SSP forums.

You'd be surprised to know exactly who reads our comments. ;)





I completely agree with you. I think all rapid transit that is automated should be branded SkyTrain. Honestly if all of you haven't told me that it will be run by InTransitBC I would never have known. Actually I was VERY surprised when I heard about this... Adding to the fact that the trains reach to the Airport. When tourists come and take the Canada Line, they wouldn't know Vancouver's rapid transit network is called SkyTrain unless they look at the system maps or take the SkyTrains..


I agree.



Thx for the updates Henry Man.

officedweller
10-05-2007, 11:09 AM
I hope they'll repave No.3 Rd very soon after.

Tafryn's pics show some repaved sections of No. 3 Rd. near Aberdeen and Yaohan Centre.

7) I asked about potentially building a pedestrian bridge from Richmond-Brighouse Station directly to Richmond Centre (which is awfully needed) and another potential park-and-ride near that station...

I think that having a station integrated with the mall is overrated. Lougheed Station was originally supposed to be at the mall - but it was more expensive. I think that having the station be stand alone adds visibility - both for the station (adding to street life) and for safety (malls hours are shorter than transit hours). As is being done at Aberdeen and will probably be done at Brentwood and Lougheed - the mall should build out to the street and station at its expense - rather than moving the line to the mall at taxpayers' expense.

10) He has heard about the SSC and SSP forums.

Best news by far!

officedweller
10-05-2007, 11:37 AM
Tafryn has new Oakridge Stations pics posted (mislabelled as Langara).
This Oakridge Station pic from Tafryn shows the underpass under the platform (to get to the northbound platform from the Station house). i.e you can see the train tunnel is a level above the lowest part of the station excavation. I would have preferred a mezzanine configuration.

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-02/images/KICX1931.jpg

hollywoodnorth
10-05-2007, 12:48 PM
You'd be surprised to know exactly who reads our comments.

I know eh.....we should start to out em.......

cough Rennie cough

cough Bosa cough

cough Toderian cough

cough Sullivan cough

cough Mitham cough

there my throat feels much better now ;) any one else itchy? ;)

:cheers:

Nutterbug
10-05-2007, 12:57 PM
I know eh.....we should start to out em.......

cough Rennie cough

cough Bosa cough

cough Toderian cough

cough Sullivan cough

cough Mitham cough

there my throat feels much better now ;) any one else itchy? ;)

:cheers:

They don't have better things to do with their time?

johnjimbc
10-05-2007, 02:04 PM
Rumour aspects aside - though knowing rumours can be valuable as well - I would think this would be a great source for a developer. In a business journal you could learn some things. And through the network of contractors you would learn another aspect. But this board discusses development from a unique perspective.

It provides a mix of factual knowledge and pure feedback of impressions by a varied collection of people ranging from experts to those who happen to find development "interesting." If I were a developer, I'd defintely read it to see what people were saying about my projects - and those of my competitors - from design to construction to marketing. I wouldn't consider it a waste of time at all to spend a small bit of time each week to take a look.

Not that I'm doing that now or anything . . .

Bob (that is a joke ; ).

hollywoodnorth
10-05-2007, 02:13 PM
They don't have better things to do with their time?

don't you? you posted this at 5 am? ;) i kid ;)

but really for them (developers, agents, construction company reps, etc) to hit it (the board) once or twice a week for 10 minutes is just good buisness sence dont ya think? ;)

Nutterbug
10-05-2007, 03:27 PM
don't you? you posted this at 5 am? ;) i kid ;)

but really for them (developers, agents, construction company reps, etc) to hit it (the board) once or twice a week for 10 minutes is just good buisness sence dont ya think? ;)

That is assuming we are in any way representative of the normal general public. ;)

mr.x2
10-05-2007, 09:54 PM
this is just a few metres north of Oakridge Station....what is it? space for the tunnel ventilation fans?

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-02/images/KICX1921.jpg

pic by Tafryn

mr.x2
10-09-2007, 09:53 PM
Mayor pledges $2 million for Cambie
Mayor promises $2 million to beautify street, seeks matching provincial funds

Frances Bula, Vancouver Sun
Published: Tuesday, October 09, 2007

VANCOUVER - The city will put $2 million into beautifying Cambie Street, which has borne the brunt of the massive Canada Line construction project, Mayor Sam Sullivan said Monday.

Although council still has to receive a report on the issue, Sullivan committed the city to contributing money for Cambie Street improvements in a letter he sent last week to Finance Minister Carole Taylor. In it, he asked the province to provide a matching $2 million.

"We believe Cambie Street is a real gateway into the city and we also are conscious of the difficulties merchants are facing," said Sullivan. "We would like to ensure we do our part."

The money will be spent on things like improved lamp standards, benches, sidewalk treatments, additional trees, and, if provincial money comes through, small plazas. A significant amount of the money will be spent in the Cambie Village area, between 15th and 19th avenues.

The city's commitment came as welcome news to merchant and Canada Line representatives, who said that until now the city had not been willing to put in its own money and was only offering to write to ask the provincial and federal governments for contributions.

"Merchants would certainly welcome any assistance we could get," said Leonard Schein, the owner of the Park Theatre on Cambie and the liaison between the Cambie business owners association and Canada Line.

But he said the plan doesn't address the devastating losses merchants have suffered in the past year due to the trench down Cambie, blocked entry from side streets, and erratic flow through major intersections.

"We would all like the street to look better, but I think the merchants would have preferred to see it go to mitigation."

So far, all the agencies involved with Canada Line have declined to provide any mitigation, including tax relief from Vancouver or Richmond or direct compensation from TransLink or the province.

Canada Line, which will be the third line of the region's SkyTrain system, has been described as the biggest construction project ever in B.C. It was controversial from the beginning, four years ago, after the provincial and federal governments, in preparation for the Olympics, offered to contribute significant money to build the line even though it was not at the top of TransLink's priority list.

The province also insisted it be built as a public-private partnership, another controversy, and the decision to run it down Cambie rather than using the existing rail line on Arbutus also generated heated debate.

Cambie businesses started to feel the impacts of the construction when construction moved north of 25th Avenue.

Construction in the Cambie Village area is due to wind up by Nov. 30, in time for the Christmas season. Sullivan said that's happening because the city has been pushing for that date and signing additional exemptions to allow the work to proceed faster.

However, Canada Line spokesman Alan Dever said the project will wind up five months earlier than anticipated because the merchants agreed last year to allow construction to go ahead for the full length of the street. Originally, the plan was for work to proceed on short sections of three blocks at a time.

But because of the continuing civic workers' strike, it's not clear whether traffic will be allowed onto the formerly closed parts of the repaired street.

Even though Canada Line crews will fill the trench and put on one layer of pavement, city crews are supposed to take over from there and complete the roadwork, said Dever.

Although Canada Line expects to finish up most of the street in the next few months, work on the station boxes will continue until late 2008 or early 2009.

officedweller
10-09-2007, 10:51 PM
The City had plans long ago to revitalize Cambie in conjunction with the Canada Line. Sam seems to be trying to get some publicity over it.

****

Not sure what the hole is for - maybe lowering equipment into the tunnel. Note that the tunnel is not divided at that location - maybe there's a switch there and the hole is required to lower switching track and equipment into the tunnel.

mr.x2
10-11-2007, 05:41 AM
more pics by Tafryn, Oct. 4:


VANCOUVER CITY CENTRE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX2000.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX2002.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX2014.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX2013.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX2016.jpg




WATERFRONT STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX1966.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX1982.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX1987.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-04/images/KICX1989.jpg




OAKRIDGE-41ST STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-02/images/KICX1930.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-02/images/KICX1936.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-02/images/KICX1931.jpg

mr.x2
10-11-2007, 11:19 AM
more pics by Tafryn, Oct. 9:


TEMPLETON STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2105.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2106.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2108.jpg




SEA ISLAND CENTRE STATOIN
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2090.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2091.jpg

Third rail for power installed
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2092.jpg
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2093.jpg

The white metal supports in the middle are for the walkway I'm guessing.
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2095.jpg

The station itself
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2102.jpg
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2103.jpg

j4893k
10-13-2007, 09:39 PM
I had to bus to white rock today and I noticed that they're starting to attach the cables on the north tower for the bridge. It's looking really good.

Btw, has anyone else noticed the new announcements on some of the busses? They sound really clear and much, much nicer than the driver shouting the next stop.

mr.x2
10-13-2007, 10:07 PM
Shots of the North Arm Bridge from Flickr taken earlier this month:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/1488063766_d79e745595.jpg?v=0

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1126/1487125557_67d9418c23.jpg?v=0

officedweller
10-15-2007, 08:41 PM
I drove over the Oak St Bridge yesterday - Heading northbound, you can't see the bridge if you're in a car (as opposed to SUV) - the guardrail of the Oak St./ Bridge blocks the view.

Hot Rod
10-17-2007, 01:58 AM
I like this line from the sun above, Canada Line, which will be the third line of the region's SkyTrain system, has been described as the biggest construction project ever in B.C..

How long will it be until those idiots brand the darn thing SkyTrain Canada Line, to go along with the other two (SkyTrain Expo Line and SkyTrain Millennium Line)???????

I know most of us will call it SkyTrain, as will most common people or they may just call it 'the subway', but I think it is a matter of time before it is branded as a Metro Network. ..

SkyTrain IS the name of the metro system!!!!!!

SpongeG
10-17-2007, 02:40 AM
is it in doubt?

cc85
10-17-2007, 05:59 AM
who uses garden city to get to bridgeport from steveston? you obviously dont know the makeup of Richmond roads:rolleyes:

the existing capacity is fine, dont look to Richmond becoming a huge hub of population. with a future line going to north delta and surrey, it will all even out.

cadillac fairview is either really stupid or quite smart for not allowing a park and ride facility at richmond centre. but why allow it anyways, their existing capacity is nearing the limits as 70% of the parking fronting no. 3 road is filled by employees who dont bother taking the bus. beside, having park and rides flys in the face of contemporary transit planning, we want to encourage transfers from busses to rapid transit.

lansdowne centre will surpass richmond centre in terms of profitability in the next 10 years as they redevelop. Richmond centre is too new (relative to lansdowne) to redevelop and maximize their potential of RAV line access.

no compensation for cambie street businesses by the way - they can f off. (excuse the language, but everyone today is a big cry baby).

lightrail
10-17-2007, 06:08 AM
I like this line from the sun above, Canada Line, which will be the third line of the region's SkyTrain system, has been described as the biggest construction project ever in B.C..

How long will it be until those idiots brand the darn thing SkyTrain Canada Line, to go along with the other two (SkyTrain Expo Line and SkyTrain Millennium Line)???????

I know most of us will call it SkyTrain, as will most common people or they may just call it 'the subway', but I think it is a matter of time before it is branded as a Metro Network. ..

SkyTrain IS the name of the metro system!!!!!!

How about a writing campaign to Translink - we need a unified identifier for the system, similar to the London Underground. In London, the Underground is called the underground, even where trains run on the surface or on viaducts (and there's one station where you will walk upstairs to an outdoor viaduct to catch an Underground train and down into the tunnel to catch the Overground trains).

mr.x2
10-20-2007, 08:55 PM
more pics by Tafryn, Oct. 10:


VANCOUVER CITY CENTRE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2111.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2112.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2116.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2120.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2127.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2133.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2134.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2139.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2115.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2114.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2149.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-10/images/KICX2147.jpg

mr.x2
10-20-2007, 08:56 PM
more pics by Tafryn, Oct. 15:


OLYMPIC VILLAGE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2230.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2250.jpg



BROADWAY/CITY HALL STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2210.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2214.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2215.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2216.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2217.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2222.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2224.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2225.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2229.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2213.jpg




YVR-AIRPORT STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2188.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2202.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2201.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2183.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2208.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2187.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2190.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2185.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2198.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2209.jpg

mr.x2
10-20-2007, 08:56 PM
RAV line draws density

Real Estate By Carlito Pablo
Publish Date: October 18, 2007

When the Canada Line becomes operational in late 2009, community planner Art Cowie hopes to see more than just a new rapid-transit system. According to the former Vancouver*-Quilchena MLA, the approximately 19-kilometre course linking downtown Vancouver to Richmond and the international airport presents an opportunity to alleviate the housing crunch in the Lower Mainland.

Cowie, who once served as critic for municipal affairs, recreation, housing, and transit, envisions the Canada Line's route as a potential corridor on which to build dense and compact communities that are linked to each other by transit.

In an interview at the Georgia Straight offices, Cowie said that last summer he presented this concept in separate letters to Vancouver mayor Sam Sullivan and Richmond mayor Malcolm Brodie. "I've got a response from the mayors of Vancouver and Richmond saying they're giving this to their planning departments," he said. "I believe you're going to have high-density development along wherever you have transit stops."

Cowie, who is also a former Vancouver councillor and former chair of the city's park board, explained that this concept has worked in London, England, and in Scandinavian countries where transportation nodes have served as the base for urban growth.

"This is not being too adventurous," he said. "For years, we haven't linked land use with transit. We put the transit in but we don't design the housing to fit with it. The planning hasn't been done at the same time. They should, in fact, be planning for this area."

In the case of Vancouver, Cowie projects that the city will grow by 200,000 people over the next 20 to 30 years. The big problem, he noted, will be where to put them.

"We can't afford to build single-family houses anymore," he said. "So we have to go to row housing or condominiums or apartments."

According to the City of Vancouver, single-family dwellings take up 45 percent of the city's land, excluding roads. Only 11 percent of the land, excluding roads, is devoted to multiple-unit residences.

Last year, Sullivan unveiled his EcoDensity initiative, which aims to create more housing options in traditional single-family-housing neighbourhoods, such as duplexes, row houses, and apartments. However, this has come under fire from various community associations. According to critics of the plan, such as community activist Alicia Barsallo, EcoDensity is largely a developer-driven program meant to free up land for market housing.

Cowie said that while the city sorts out opposition to Sullivan's EcoDensity initiative it can also look at other options where multiple-dwelling units can be put in place. "The easiest place to put them where you're not upsetting people is along the Canada Line," he said.

Cowie's concept has about the same foundation as that of Patrick Condon, a UBC professor of landscape architecture. In an interview for the Straight's July 26, 2007, cover story entitled "Housing Solutions", Condon suggested that Vancouver's housing crisis could be partially addressed by allowing four-storey mixed-use residential-commercial buildings on every arterial road in the region. He defined an arterial road as any street that "has a bus on it now".

Condon also said that in Vancouver alone, this could create room for an additional 700,000 residents, all living close to transit. He also noted that four-storey mixed-use projects are often cheaper than high-rises because all that's necessary is adding floors onto an existing commercial building.

Cowie, a resident of Cambie Street where construction crews cut a trench for the line's underground tunnel, is content that his street was chosen as the bridge between Vancouver and Richmond. He noted that this means easy transit access to and from such areas like Vancouver City Hall, the Broadway district, Vancouver General Hospital, Oakridge Shopping Centre, and Langara College.

"They put it in the right spot," he said. "Now the question is let's do higher density along there. Let's do some social housing, let's do some rental housing, and let's do a lot of privately owned homes."





They certainly did put it in the right spot with the right technology, but with terrible capacity. This could be our own Scarborough RT.

vitc
10-21-2007, 10:06 PM
Wondering...

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-15/images/KICX2188.jpg

Am I overthinking or are the columns designed with YV (out of YVR) in mind??? Looks cool!!

mr.x2
10-21-2007, 10:11 PM
^ lol yea, YVR probably payed more insisting for a more unique design (compared to the Richmond stations). That's probably part of the YVR-Airport Station cost.



is this going to be a problem?
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-09/images/KICX2104.jpg

SpongeG
10-21-2007, 10:28 PM
is what a problem?

SFUVancouver
10-21-2007, 10:39 PM
That looks to me like a normal drainage channel for the guideway. My hunch is that the gutter will be hooked into a proper storm sewer drain pipe once they begin landscaping. With the rains we've been having I'm actually amazed the erosion of the dirt in that picture is so limited.

mr.x2
10-21-2007, 10:49 PM
That looks to me like a normal drainage channel for the guideway. My hunch is that the gutter will be hooked into a proper storm sewer drain pipe once they begin landscaping. With the rains we've been having I'm actually amazed the erosion of the dirt in that picture is so limited.

It's probably a lot worse now...that photo was taken on or before October 9.


And that's called an alluvial fan! all thanks to Geography 12! :p

mr.x2
10-23-2007, 08:54 PM
more pics by Tafryn, Oct. 18:


Cambie Cut
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2316.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2319.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2325.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2327.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2328.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2334.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2340.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2318.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2335.jpg




Broadway Station
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2302.jpg

mr.x2
10-24-2007, 03:15 AM
It's been quite awhile since i've read through the Concessionaire Agreement, but thanks to officedweller i was reading it over again and found that i missed some interesting info.

http://www.canadaline.ca/pubLibDocs.asp?ID=4#38



Unlike SkyTrain, there will be DYNAMIC VISUAL DISPLAYS at the Canada Line stations....in other words, electronic displays.

The will show:

- destination of next two trains
- time of arrival of next two trains
- the existence of, and reason for, delay to service when length of delay is greater than service route headway for off-peak hours or twice the service route headway for peak hours
- relevant system information (e.g. escalators out of service, maintenance work)
- special event information
- current time

Example:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/65696382_8bb6a14acf.jpg?v=0


Not only will the trains have exterior electronic displays at both ends of the trains to show the train's terminal station destination, there will be electronic displays on the sides of the trains as well....though we haven't quite seen that yet with the latest vehicle pictures the project office has posted.


InTransitBC is responsible for all advertising, and will receive all advertising revenues.....I hope they don't blanket the trains with ads, like on the Las Vegas monorail.


In addition, the trains will stop at terminal stations and important interchange stations for 10 seconds to let passengers in and out. At all other stations, they will stop for 5 seconds.

officedweller
10-24-2007, 03:32 AM
And for those of you hinging on the branding of the system, I noticed this clause which I hadn't noticed before. The words "GVTA's regional transportation system identity" could open the door for "Skytrain" to appear on the vehicles (if not elsewhere). Note that "System" means Canada Line.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1362/80231991xn1.jpg

This clause could allow "Skytrain" to appear on system posters in the stations:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6638/70176849xx0.jpg

djh
10-24-2007, 03:33 AM
In addition, the trains will stop at terminal stations and important interchange stations for 10 seconds to let passengers in and out. At all other stations, they will stop for 5 seconds.

Nah, that *can't* be right! 5 seconds to load and unload a train carriage?! You ever seen an elderly person board a train? Or a family with kids?

djh
10-24-2007, 03:38 AM
more pics by Tafryn, Oct. 18:



http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-18/images/KICX2335.jpg





Somebody was earlier talking about the amount of rain we've been having and the effect this is having on the soil around the construction.

Remember last year when all those houses on steep slopes in North Van got washed away in the floods? I look at this picture and wonder, with all the rain we've had, is there any chance that this soil could become super-saturated and cave-in to the tunnels? The shotcrete that holds the walls of the tunnel up is not exactly thick, or meant to hold-back tonnes of soil and water. I also remember late last year/early this year one of the construction projects on Georgia Street had their excavation hole cave-in during the rains.

Anybody here have an idea of the size of forces being applied here?

officedweller
10-24-2007, 03:45 AM
There are tie-back rods behind the shotcrete - don't now the tolerances though.
Compare to Yaletown Station, though, where the adjacent underground parkade structures (or soft soils?) prevented them from using tie-backs - they have the huge steel beams spanning the excavation from side to side. Come to think of it, they used shotcrete and tie-backs at Vancouver City Cnetre Station next to the Future Shop Building, so I'm not sure if that's the reason at Yaletown Station.

Nah, that *can't* be right! 5 seconds to load and unload a train carriage?! You ever seen an elderly person board a train? Or a family with kids?

Those are minimum dwell times:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8392/16299712et1.jpg

mr.x2
10-24-2007, 03:45 AM
^ ahhhh, my bad lol.

i guess the 5 sec and 10 sec dwell time could be applied to a train at 11 pm though.

officedweller
10-24-2007, 03:53 AM
I remember back in Toronto late at night the operator would open the doors for - literally - a split second. You had to jump out fast or you'd miss your stop.

mr.x2
10-24-2007, 03:56 AM
Nah, that *can't* be right! 5 seconds to load and unload a train carriage?! You ever seen an elderly person board a train? Or a family with kids?

it kind of reminds me an incident in Tokyo a year ago...i think someone got their foot stuck between the doors, and they weren't even on the train. so they got dragged along the platform for quite some distance, luckily he was freed before hitting the end wall.:sly:

officedweller
10-24-2007, 04:31 AM
That happened in Toronto too - I think someone's backpack got caught in the doors.

The_Henry_Man
10-24-2007, 08:28 AM
It's been quite awhile since i've read through the Concessionaire Agreement, but thanks to officedweller i was reading it over again and found that i missed some interesting info.

http://www.canadaline.ca/pubLibDocs.asp?ID=4#38



Unlike SkyTrain, there will be DYNAMIC VISUAL DISPLAYS at the Canada Line stations....in other words, electronic displays.

The will show:

- destination of next two trains
- time of arrival of next two trains
- the existence of, and reason for, delay to service when length of delay is greater than service route headway for off-peak hours or twice the service route headway for peak hours
- relevant system information (e.g. escalators out of service, maintenance work)
- special event information
- current time

Example:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/65696382_8bb6a14acf.jpg?v=0


Not only will the trains have exterior electronic displays at both ends of the trains to show the train's terminal station destination, there will be electronic displays on the sides of the trains as well....though we haven't quite seen that yet with the latest vehicle pictures the project office has posted.


InTransitBC is responsible for all advertising, and will receive all advertising revenues.....I hope they don't blanket the trains with ads, like on the Las Vegas monorail.


In addition, the trains will stop at terminal stations and important interchange stations for 10 seconds to let passengers in and out. At all other stations, they will stop for 5 seconds.

But what about the still-relatively-new flat-screen TVs (showing the real time info) that are present in some of current Skytrain stations, like Waterfront Station? Will they be present in the C-Line stations too? I hope they do have them.

mr.x2
10-24-2007, 08:48 AM
But what about the still-relatively-new flat-screen TVs (showing the real time info) that are present in some of current Skytrain stations, like Waterfront Station? Will they be present in the C-Line stations too? I hope they do have them.

That's Translink's own thing, which they signed a $100+ million contract with Lamar advertising for SkyTrain, SeaBus, and the buses. Speaking of which, we still don't have the large LCD screen matrix at Burrard Station...they said it was to be installed by the summer of 2005.



InTransitBC is responsible for the coordinating advertising on the Canada Line. The private company will also receive all advertising revenues, not Translink.

The_Henry_Man
10-24-2007, 08:49 AM
And for those of you hinging on the branding of the system, I noticed this clause which I hadn't noticed before. The words "GVTA's regional transportation system identity" could open the door for "Skytrain" to appear on the vehicles (if not elsewhere). Note that "System" means Canada Line.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1362/80231991xn1.jpg

This clause could allow "Skytrain" to appear on system posters in the stations:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6638/70176849xx0.jpg

When they mention "GVTA's regional transportation system identity", could they just mean "Translink"?

mr.x2
10-24-2007, 09:02 AM
Even more pics by Tafryn, Oct. 19:


BRIDGEPORT STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2383.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2378.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2377.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2380.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2381.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2376.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2375.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2365.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2366.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2361.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2356.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2351.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2347.jpg









MIDDLE ARM BRIDGE
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2384.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2386.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2389.jpg








TEMPLETON STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2391.jpg






YVR-AIRPORT STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2400.jpg

The_Henry_Man
10-24-2007, 09:10 AM
In one of the files in the Consessionaire Agreement, they mentioned that the last train will leave Waterfront Station at 0115h, compared to 0144h for the current 98B bus (according to the Translink website). Also, the last train leaves Richmond-Brighouse/YVR-Airport at 0045h, compared to 0107h for the current 98B.

This is not very impressive. The should've provided the length of the operating hours similar to the current 98B. I bet people who want to avoid the late-night buses will be too rushed to catch the last C-Line train back home from downtown.

tintinium
10-24-2007, 05:04 PM
Most cities stop their metro between 12 and 1am to about 4am. This is nothing unusual.

officedweller
10-24-2007, 07:06 PM
When they mention "GVTA's regional transportation system identity", could they just mean "Translink"?

They could mean "Translink", but "transportation system identity" leads me to think it is a trademark or tradename specific to the "transportation system" rather than to "GVTA".
"Translink" is a tradename or "doing business as" name for the entity, GVTA, rather than the system.

bils
10-24-2007, 07:12 PM
any idea what this building is? it's located on the west side of no.3 road, just north of bridgeport road.

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-19/images/KICX2351.jpg

officedweller
10-24-2007, 07:32 PM
Power supply substation

officedweller
10-25-2007, 08:34 PM
Breakfast Television (CityTV) had their latest exclusive live segments from the Canada Line again this morning.
The parts I saw showed progress on the Middle Arm Bridge and live broadcasts from atop and inside the King Edward Station (the station roof is being poured soon). The platforms looked reasonably spacious and the columns are set back a good distance from the edge of the platform.
They mentioned that Cambie from 29th Ave to 39th Ave. will reopen in the next couple weeks. They also mentioned that a couple of cross streets near 22nd Ave. or so have already reopened.

officedweller
10-26-2007, 02:34 AM
Just noticed this on Jim's Construction Gallery at the Canada Line website - the side excavations are for Emergency stair towers. There are a lot of them on the stacked section. Not sure where they end up - i.e. in the sidewalk?

http://www.canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1690.JPG

http://www.canadaline.ca/uploads/Gallery/1674.JPG

mr.x2
10-26-2007, 02:47 AM
Breakfast Television (CityTV) had their latest exclusive live segments from the Canada Line again this morning.
The parts I saw showed progress on the Middle Arm Bridge and live broadcasts from atop and inside the King Edward Station (the station roof is being poured soon). The platforms looked reasonably spacious and the columns are set back a good distance from the edge of the platform.
They mentioned that Cambie from 29th Ave to 39th Ave. will reopen in the next couple weeks. They also mentioned that a couple of cross streets near 22nd Ave. or so have already reopened.

Don't forget that there's a down escalator/staircase at the King Edward Station platform to the lower level platform, so i would assume they needed a wider platform for that...and i'd assume the columns line up with rim of the escalator/staircase hole.


i saw the most assuming thing today on the bus....on the 99 B-Line, my driver stopped at a non B-Line bus stop to get himself a cup of coffee.

officedweller
10-26-2007, 03:01 AM
Yeah, that's where the column was - I posted a pic in the SSC thread. There were forming stairs in the area shown.

lightrail
10-26-2007, 03:23 AM
In one of the files in the Consessionaire Agreement, they mentioned that the last train will leave Waterfront Station at 0115h, compared to 0144h for the current 98B bus (according to the Translink website). Also, the last train leaves Richmond-Brighouse/YVR-Airport at 0045h, compared to 0107h for the current 98B.

This is not very impressive. The should've provided the length of the operating hours similar to the current 98B. I bet people who want to avoid the late-night buses will be too rushed to catch the last C-Line train back home from downtown.

True - but the 1:15am departure is consistent with the last Expo Skytrain from Waterfront Station. Then there's the night buses after that. They need time for power-off maintenance, so later shutdowns might not be sustainable over the long term.

mr.x2
10-26-2007, 08:08 AM
more Tafryn regulars, taken Oct. 22:


YVR-AIRPORT STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2466.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2458.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2464.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2457.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2447.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2446.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2477.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2476.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2465.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2463.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2462.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2467.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2465.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2442.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2445.jpg



Where double tracking ends and single tracking starts. Also the future site of YVR-AIRPORT 3 STATION.
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2471.jpg





SEA ISLAND CENTRE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2479.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2481.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2482.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2483.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2484.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2485.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2487.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2488.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2489.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2490.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2491.jpg





TEMPLETON STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2495.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2496.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2499.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2500.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-22/images/KICX2498.jpg

officedweller
10-26-2007, 09:51 PM
At Vancouver City Centre Station, it looks like the south end of the platform will have a higher ceiling than we thought.
In this pic from Tafryn, you can see that the floor of the level above the platform is higher than to the north. It seems unlikely that there would be an intermediate floor since there would be exposed rebar for the floor's rebar to tie into.

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2530.jpg

mr.x2
10-26-2007, 10:45 PM
More pics by Tafryn, Oct. 23:

VANCOUVER CITY CENTRE STATION


Future site of station entance
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2502.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2505.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2506.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2512.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2513.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2515.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2517.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2519.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2521.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2523.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2524.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2525.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2527.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2529.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2501.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-23/images/KICX2528.jpg

mr.x2
10-27-2007, 11:08 PM
by zivan56 at ssc

Pictures from the finished sections (King Edward to South of QE Park)
King Edward looking West
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03183.jpg


http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03187.jpg


Brand new street shoulders:
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03190.jpg

http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03192.jpg

Starting from the Northern point of QE park, we have an almost completed part (minus landscaping)
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03193.jpg

http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03194.jpg

http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03200.jpg

http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03201.jpg

mmm, brand new asphalt
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03202.jpg

Castings waiting to be put in place:
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03203.jpg

http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03205.jpg

Newer type manhole covers:
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03207.jpg
One of the first parts that was dug up...I had a picture of when construction just started in this thread
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03210.jpg

South of QE part, they are still laying asphalt (city of Vancouver crews)
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03212.jpg

http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03213.jpg

http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03214.jpg

Work going on today (Saturday)
http://www.iwdstudio.com/slike/rav/10/DSC03216.jpg

Wish I had brought my DSLR instead of a 6 year old camera...

SpongeG
10-27-2007, 11:57 PM
Don't forget that there's a down escalator/staircase at the King Edward Station platform to the lower level platform, so i would assume they needed a wider platform for that...and i'd assume the columns line up with rim of the escalator/staircase hole.


i saw the most assuming thing today on the bus....on the 99 B-Line, my driver stopped at a non B-Line bus stop to get himself a cup of coffee.

they often did that

they run in and out

deasine
10-28-2007, 12:32 AM
wow the paved Cambie St... three lanes and I'm guessing a bike lane as well. I'm interested in what the city has plans for North cambie st... from three lanes to one lane =.=" or was it one lane in the southbound direction =S

SpongeG
10-28-2007, 12:58 AM
i thought it was always three lanes

deasine
10-28-2007, 01:30 AM
that wasn't my point -__-", I was just excited to see that it's done! And I'm very curious if the city of Vancouver had made a decision on Cambie St. North...

officedweller
10-29-2007, 02:29 AM
I don't think they have. I remember a decision a few months back on bike lanes through Cambie Village and I think that the decision make wasn't earthshattering - i.e. share the road through the Cambie Village. I think that sharing the road is reasonable where the road narrows.

Delirium
10-29-2007, 03:11 PM
the north arm bridge is just about connected

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2393/1796903975_b6049fc9c7_b.jpg
from www.flickr.com

officedweller
10-29-2007, 08:29 PM
Nice!

deasine
10-29-2007, 11:40 PM
The bridge looks amazing seeing it from that shot! =D

Delirium
10-30-2007, 02:17 AM
it'll really cool to fly in and see the trains and people go by.
speaking of, does anyone know how the bike path will work? will it follow the guideway to the station or veer off towards marine dr?

squeezied
10-30-2007, 05:28 AM
east side of cambie st from 29 to 39 ave will be reopened to traffic sometime during november. i don't really see any point in doing so; it's only a short stretch so it's not gonna relieve traffic that much...

mr.x2
10-30-2007, 06:13 AM
east side of cambie st from 29 to 39 ave will be reopened to traffic sometime during november. i don't really see any point in doing so; it's only a short stretch so it's not gonna relieve traffic that much...

that's still 10 blocks....as suppose to reopening the section next April. and it proofs to the public that there are signs of improvement on Cambie.


one big problem i have with that pedestrian/bike route on the bridge is security...will it be monitored by CCTV? it's going to be covered by gravitti quite quickly, and i could see illegal activity going around there.

Jared
10-30-2007, 06:30 AM
one big problem i have with that pedestrian/bike route on the bridge is security...will it be monitored by CCTV? it's going to be covered by gravitti quite quickly, and i could see illegal activity going around there.


sounds like it would be a good place for UBC Engineers to hang a red bug from...:hmmm: :D

deasine
10-30-2007, 06:45 AM
that's still 10 blocks....as suppose to reopening the section next April. and it proofs to the public that there are signs of improvement on Cambie.


one big problem i have with that pedestrian/bike route on the bridge is security...will it be monitored by CCTV? it's going to be covered by gravitti quite quickly, and i could see illegal activity going around there.

exactly. i see it for a spot for homeless too... although it is very loud and cold...

mr.x2
10-30-2007, 07:06 AM
exactly. i see it for a spot for homeless too... although it is very loud and cold...

perfect! social housing! lets move all of the homeless to the bridge!

or maybe that pedestrian/bike way can be our red light district!

mr.x2
10-30-2007, 07:52 AM
Updates by TafrynOct. 25


BROADWAY/CITY HALL STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2537.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2538.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2539.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2540.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2550.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2547.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2548.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2549.jpg




YALETOWN/ROUNDHOUSE STATION
http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2555.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2559.jpg

http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2007-10-25/images/KICX2558.jpg

tintinium
10-30-2007, 06:55 PM
Unless, of course, you're trying to make a left turn onto 33rd. :-)

officedweller
10-30-2007, 07:55 PM
They'll be excavating pretty deep at Broadway-City Hall Station to get a fairly level platform. You can see the north end of the platform area is right near the surface. The tunnel approaching the station from the south will probably be the deepest part of the cut and cover tunnel.

bils
11-01-2007, 02:04 AM
:banana:

Richmond Seeks Feedback on Guideway Lighting
http://www.richmond.ca/news/city/canadalineguidewaylights.htm

31 October 2007

For the restoration of No. 3 Road, the City of Richmond is nearing completion of Detailed Design for the northern section from Cambie Road to Bridgeport Road. As part of the design process, the City is investigating streetscape improvements, which include special effect lighting of selected sections of the Canada Line guideway, and would like the public’s input.

As a test, the City is demonstrating night time special lighting effects on the Canada Line guideway on No. 3 Road immediately north of Leslie Road from November 1 to 5. This test will light the west side of the Canada Line guideway between two columns and will include programmed coloured light changes.

The public is welcome to share their input of special effect lighting treatments with the City by sending comments to citylights@richmond.ca or by completing and submitting the feedback form available at www.richmond.ca > Canada Line > Public Participation. (click here (http://www.richmond.ca/__shared/assets/2007-11SpecialEffectLightingFbackFormPDF18686.pdf))

Please note, the decision to incorporate special effect lighting will depend on factors such as safety, cost, funding, visual impact, public and Council assessment. Therefore, the public’s comments regarding this special effect lighting test would be appreciated.

Detailed Design for the remainder of No. 3 Road is currently scheduled to be complete by the summer of 2008. The City anticipates that restoration of No. 3 Road will begin in 2008.

The City wishes to acknowledge the assistance from Lightworks (special effect lighting supplier), Canada Line, InTransitBC and RSL (Canada Line Contractor in Richmond).

For more information, please contact Brian Guzzi in Major Projects at 604-276-4393.

About the No. 3 Road Restoration
Construction of the Canada Line, the Richmond-Airport-Vancouver rapid transit line, will soon link the City of Richmond to both downtown Vancouver and the Vancouver International Airport. In Richmond, the elevated rapid transit guideway will follow the eastside of No. 3 Road from Bridgeport Road to its final station just south of Westminster Highway.

The City of Richmond will be undertaking the restoration of No. 3 Road as construction of the Canada Line nears completion.

Some of the key features included in the restoration of No. 3 Road are as follows:

* Raised Cycle Lanes with the exception of southbound between Sea Island Way and Alderbridge Way;