[SteelTown]

Got gas today for 79.6, cost me $28.00 to fill it up.

[Nicko999]

80.4 in Montreal:tup:

77.9 in Kahnawake:)

[LeftCoaster]

Got gas today for 79.6, cost me $28.00 to fill it up.

Do you drive a go-cart??

Still around mid to low 90s here in Vancouver. :hell:

[mersar]

Filled up at 76.9 in Calgary last night

[sconadian]

Filled up at 76.9 in Calgary last night

You lucky bastard

It was 94.9 when I gassed up today

[Sony500]

81.9 cents per liter in Moncton, NB

[entheosfog]

Do you drive a go-cart??

Still around mid to low 90s here in Vancouver. :hell:

The prices have been flip-flopping for the last couple of weeks. A couple of days ago it went from 95 back up to 99 and now I see good ol' Chevron is at 91 now...

[Nicko999]

Beleive it or not, oil is now under 50$ a barrel:banana: (49.60$)

[HomeInMyShoes]

And gas is still 92.7 in St. John's after this mornings controlled price change.

[harls]

Dude on the news said 72 cents this morning. Prices in Aylmer are finally starting to catch up to the Ottawa side.. I saw 79.4 yesterday near my place.

[MolsonExport]

76 cents today. First time my fillup was less than $30 since...a long time ago.

[drizzo_613]

filled up for 72.2 today in Orleans

[feepa]

Who would've thought this 3 - 4 months ago?

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7839/gas1mr7.jpgv

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2779/gas2ud9.jpg

[lubicon]

Diesel is FINALLY beginning to drop. It's down to $1.059 in Calgary now, but still about 20 cents higher than gas.

[Nicko999]

Under 80c in Montreal!!!

78.4 today

74.9 in Kahnawake(best price in Canada outside of Ontario):tup:

[vid]

All the way down to 92.9 here in Thunder Bay! WOW!! It's so cheap!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

[entheosfog]

I saw many stations around Van posting 89.9 and the diesel is around 1.18... Sweet!

[0773|=\]

Guess I should road-trip to the states sometime soon!

[harls]

Here's a handy map of gas prices.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_can_gastemperaturemap.aspx

Alderville, ON (south of Peterborough) is showing 69.9 today.

[Greco Roman]

I've seen it as low as 73.9 here in Edmonton

[Nicko999]

76.4 in Montreal today

73.9 in Kahnawake (4c from the cheapest gas in the country):)

[Slug]

Everybody will get used to low gas prices again then... POW Right in the kisser! On the other hand this is better than any government stimulus.

[vid]

Still 95.5! Lucky us! :rolleyes:

100.9 in Dorion! :eek:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9163/onks4.png

What the hell? :no:

[Sony500]

Superstore in Moncton, NB was down to 80.4, it will be interesting to see what the regulated price will be come Thursday. Should be another drop in price.

[mersar]

Cochrane is down to 80.9, filled up in Calgary at 74.9 though

[mylesmalley]

79.9 in Fredericton this evening.

[Habanero]

Paid 73.9 for my gas this morning.

[Denscity]

94.9. On a side note our 7eleven/esso is now a 7eleven/petro-can. Did they buy out esso in bc?

[mersar]

Probably an independently owned franchise that switched.

[Sony500]

78.7 in Moncton after the regulation price change on Thursday morning, a few stations went down to 78.4 later in the day

[Sony500]

They say when the economy picks up, the price of gas will go up with it. Talk about a conflict on interest within one's self.

[Nicko999]

81.4 in Montreal today

75.9 in Kahnawake

[canlefty]

$0.779/Ltr for Premium today.

[Prairie Guy]

Still 95.5! Lucky us! :rolleyes:

100.9 in Dorion! :eek:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9163/onks4.png

What the hell? :no:

Why is Fort Francis, Dryden and Kenora cheaper than Thunder Bay and Nipigon?

[Nicko999]

Some stations are showing 79.4 and it's going down!
Before Toronto:sly: !!!
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2373/scr1228091692gc3.png

[Denscity]

89.9 here and Vancouver. 82.9 Abbotsford

[entheosfog]

89.9 here and Vancouver. 82.9 Abbotsford

I've seen it as low as 86 but it's been changing every hour it seems. I wonder if the people who have to change the signs get really annoyed by this??

[mersar]

I've seen it as low as 86 but it's been changing every hour it seems. I wonder if the people who have to change the signs get really annoyed by this??

More stations are starting to install electronic signs I've been noticing. Especially those with hard to reach sign boards (such as the Safeway gas bar here... the sign was located on the edge of the canopy over the pumps,meaning you literally had to get up on a ladder that rested on about 3 inches of siding below the sign to change it)

As for price, it dropped to 79.9 in Cochrane on Saturday, but as low as 72.9 in Calgary.

[mylesmalley]

apparently it's 75.9 outside fredericton.

[lubicon]

Cochrane is down to 80.9, filled up in Calgary at 74.9 though

Where are you seeing these prices? I still have not seen anything less than 82.9 (before discount) in NW Calgary.

On a better note, diesel has finally dropped to under 1$. I can finally fill up again without the credit card cutting off the transaction at $100.

[mersar]

Where are you seeing these prices? I still have not seen anything less than 82.9 (before discount) in NW Calgary.

On a better note, diesel has finally dropped to under 1$. I can finally fill up again without the credit card cutting off the transaction at $100.

Gas Plus (Bowness, Parkdale, Macleod Trail @ 11th Ave) have been around 75 for a week or so, and the Tsuu Tina gas station was posted on calgarygasprices.com as being 72.

And yes, diesel has really dropped. My dad filled up his truck on the weekend, he said it was down nearly 25 cents since he last filled up a couple weeks back.

[Nicko999]

77.4 today in Montreal

72.9 in Kahnawake!!! 2.5 cents from the cheapeat price in Canada(70.3 Sarnia, Ontario)

[Sony500]

Price regulation day in New Brunswick, Prices went up to 80.4 in Moncton, then dropped to 79.9 at most stations. Then it dropped .2 cents per litre even later, so we are at 79.7, and overall increase of 1.3 cents per litre. I heard oil is just above 43.00 per barrel. Lowest in 4 years.

[harls]

69.9 in Ottawa now... how much lower will we go?

[Yume-sama]

Saw a sign in Queens while driving in to Manhattan today... $1.99, or 52 cents / litre.

[vid]

A fantastically low 89.7 cents per litre!! It hasn't been this low in forever!

Gas price all about the market
Lindsay Lafraugh | December 4, 2008 | The Chronicle-Journal
http://www.chroniclejournal.com/top_story.php?id=151194

Drivers in Thunder Bay may be used to paying more for fuel than those living in the southern part of the province, but many people are asking whether the discrepancy is fair.
In recent weeks the price of a litre of regular gas has dropped across the province, giving drivers in Thunder Bay the chance to buy fuel for less than $1 per litre for the first time in nine months.
On Wednesday, price tracking website GasBuddy.com showed the lowest price of gas in Thunder Bay was 89.5 cents per litre while the highest was 93.2 cents.
In Toronto, drivers were seeing prices as low as 75.5 cents per litre, according to the website.
The Shell Canada website explains that the price of a litre of its gasoline is made up of:
• 40-55 per cent crude oil costs (the raw material for making gasoline and diesel fuel).
• 25-35 per cent federal, provincial and municipal taxes, and GST.
• 10-25 per cent is the refiner‘s margin (the difference between what it costs to buy crude oil and the price refined gasoline sells for in the wholesale market which, in turn, is influenced by supply and demand).
• 4-6 per cent to the marketing (or retail) margin that covers retail stations‘ expenses and profits.
Spencer Knipping, oil adviser with the Ontario Ministry of Energy and Infrastructure, said in an interview with The Chronicle-Journal that Northern Ontarians should not be comparing pump prices with those in the lower part of the province because their gas isn‘t always coming from the same place and local market conditions are very different.
He explained that Thunder Bay is most often supplied with fuel from refineries in western Canada – Edmonton and Regina, for example.
“So if supply demands in western Canada push up wholesale prices, then Thunder Bay will feel the impact of those wholesale prices at the pump,” he said.
Knipping said that even when fuel does come from refineries in southern Ontario like those in Sarnia, it takes longer to get here and longer to sell. There are simply more people buying gas in southern Ontario, allowing a cheaper product to enter the market and effect customers more quickly.

Michael Ervin, an analyst with MJ Ervin & Associates, a Calgary-based consulting firm that provides perspectives on petroleum marketing, said the average station in Toronto pumps close to 10 million litres of fuel per year, while the average Thunder Bay station pumps closer to five to six million litres per year.
“Thunder Bay generally has somewhat higher wholesale to retail markups than in other big cities because (stations are) pumping fewer volumes of gasoline per station . . . so there is generally a bit more markup in gasoline in Thunder Bay than in a city like Toronto for example,” he said.
He too said the lengthy process of getting fuel to the city can keep prices higher in Thunder Bay than in cities closer to refineries.
“Logistically, product takes a lot longer to get to Thunder Bay and so a lot of the product in the retailer‘s tanks is still at a higher price relative to the retail inventories in the tanks where the station is just half an hour down the road from the refinery,” he said.
Currently, Thunder Bay‘s sole distribution terminal has about 50 per cent of its fuel coming from western Canada, the other half from Sarnia.
Terminal manager Al Hamilton said that when fuel comes from Sarnia via the St. Lawrence Seaway, it takes about 40 hours for a shipment to get to Thunder Bay. Shipments via rail from western Canada take between one and two weeks to arrive.
He said from Jan. 1 to April 1, when the seaway is closed, shipments from southern Ontario stop. Throughout the rest of the year, the volume coming from southern Ontario varies.
Price wars also play into varying gas prices, said Knipping, an activity that is much more frequent in Toronto than in Thunder Bay.
“Price wars start when one dealer lowers their price to gain volume. Other dealers will match the price because consumers are very price sensitive,” he said. “When a price war starts to do damage, dealers will raise their price back. If the other dealers follow suit, the price goes up sharply when the price war ends.”
He said when a price war is going on in a southern Ontario city like Toronto, and there is no war in Thunder Bay, the price discrepancy can be exaggerated.
During his reign as Thunder Bay mayor, former Thunder Bay-Rainy River Liberal MP Ken Boshcoff took a look into gas prices when he created a team of community members in 1999 who wrote letters to all major gas companies asking why Thunder Bay‘s prices were so high.
“We wrote to the president of every oil company who ended up sending representatives to us with their dog and pony, and explaining how hard done by they were,” Boshcoff recalled during an interview with The Chronicle-Journal.
He said if he had of been re-elected MP in the October election, he would have brought forward a private members bill that would have put enforcement teeth into the Competition Bureau, an independent Canadian law enforcement agency that investigates complaints and monitors businesses for fair practices.
“Every item of correspondence says that it is up to the individual . . . to prove there is gouging and I am saying . . . it should be the government who is proving the gouging,” he said.
Mayor Lynn Peterson said Tuesday that in the next few weeks she plans to have letters written to major gas companies about pricing.
She said the topic will also be brought up in discussions with local MPs and MPPs.
“We‘ve been looking at the cost of gas. Obviously crude costs have gone down, have plummeted actually, in the last little while,” she said.

[Architype]

Now's the time for that cross-country coast to coast mid-winter driving trip you've been planning.

:)

[Sony500]

There is still a big gap between 0.00 and 69.9:P

[MolsonExport]

74.2 in London. I am laughing all the way to the tank.

[Nicko999]

82.4 today in Montreal

[Sony500]

Another drop in Moncton, some prices are down to 78.9 cents per litre, now only .5 cents above what the price was when they put it up.

[Denscity]

89.9 and has been for around 3 weeks. Still due for another drop.

[drizzo_613]

Filled up for 68.2 in Ottawa today.
To anyone who lives here, does anyone know why the Helco gas station in Vanier seems to always have the cheapest gas prices?

[entheosfog]

I saw an 82.9 in North Van the other day. That's the lowest I've seen so far.

[Nicko999]

Costco have the cheapest price!

77.9 today.

74.9 in Kahnawake

Oil is 40$:sly:

[yyzer]

just gassed up for 72.9 in Mississauga......yippee! :cool:

[entheosfog]

I saw a 78.9 posted in East Van and that's before the 3 cent discount...

[mersar]

76.9 in Cochrane as of Sunday.

[entheosfog]

76.9 in Cochrane as of Sunday.

we're closing in!

[feepa]

59.9 in Edmonton

[98fb]

59.9 in Edmonton

wtf

[harls]

From Saturday night when I was fillin' up.. you should see the looks you get when you take a picture of gas station sign from your car.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/3091983713_9f9282085e.jpg?v=0
source: me.

[feepa]

sorry, typo... 69.9

[LeftCoaster]

I saw a 78.9 posted in East Van and that's before the 3 cent discount...

3 cent discount is a thing of the past...

[Sony500]

3 cent discount is a thing of the past...

Hey is it wasn't for the right coast there wouldn't be a left coast:D

[youngregina]

76.9 in regina!

[entheosfog]

3 cent discount is a thing of the past...

Is that just recently? I've noticed gas stations around town putting up signs saying the posted price is the same as the pump price...

[mersar]

Last few weeks a lot of stations have started phasing it out. Theres a reason why all the Safeway gas bars had in fine print on the pump a small note reading: 'Offer expires December 31st, 2008'. Not sure if Superstore and company have phased it out as well, I know that even as recently as a month back the Westhills Superstore in Calgary was still doing 7 cent/litre

[Denscity]

Just went down 4 cents to 85.9

[LeftCoaster]

Is that just recently? I've noticed gas stations around town putting up signs saying the posted price is the same as the pump price...

Yeah quite recently. I noticed it at first about 5 days ago when I went to fill up. If is for sure done at Chevron and Esso from what I have seen. Esso doesn't have any signs up but all Chevrons have signs stating that the price on the signs is now the same as at the pump.

Its about time really. That 3 cents off garbage was completly pointless by the end.

[Nicko999]

77.4 in Montreal

[SpongeG]

Is that just recently? I've noticed gas stations around town putting up signs saying the posted price is the same as the pump price...

yeah i noticed that too

but you still get superbucks at superstore and costco is always still the cheapest by usually 6 cents or more

i saw in burnaby last night it was 79.9 but i never looked this morning

[You Need A Thneed]

Last few weeks a lot of stations have started phasing it out. Theres a reason why all the Safeway gas bars had in fine print on the pump a small note reading: 'Offer expires December 31st, 2008'. Not sure if Superstore and company have phased it out as well, I know that even as recently as a month back the Westhills Superstore in Calgary was still doing 7 cent/litre

Still got 3.5 cents off at Co-op when I filled up yesterday. So I paid 73.4.

[Sony500]

Its regulation time in New Brunswick, prices in Moncton dropped to 71.9 cents per litre this morning

[Nicko999]

75.4 in Montreal

[Metro-One]

Filled up for 77.9 in Maple Ridge yesterday, felt like old times.

[mersar]

Couple stations in Cochrane were at 70.9 when I came home, but Bearspaw Gas showed 69 on my way in to work this morning

[Nicko999]

74.4 in Montreal

[harls]

63.9 in Carleton Place (SW of Ottawa) today.. praise the lord JEESUS.

[highdensitysprawl]

63.9 in Carleton Place (SW of Ottawa) today.. praise the lord JEESUS.

These prices at or below 65 cents/litre are what the price went up to in 1990 after Iraq invaded Kuwait (southern Ontario prices) in 1990 dollars.

[Brandon716]

OPEC is keeping the junkie hooked along with speculators. Gotta love how they reacted when the world economy started to melt down. I have become even more skeptical of the information fed to us about oil prices, even educated economists who make intelligent sounding reasons for the oil prices can be full of total crap. Demand for oil is slightly down by the slightest of margins, and its still being used heavily in the demanding world, so how the heck did oil just drop to $40?

It was a rhetorical question, so don't try to answer if you must... I've heard all the "reasons" by talking heads on CNBC, blogs, web news articles, etc. They all seem a little chaotic to me.

Its certainly not a simple "supply and demand" economy, but its not like I have the answers either. LOL

[Denscity]

Down 4 more cents to 81.9

[Greco Roman]

67.4 here in Edmonton. It's back to under $40 to fill my tank!

[entheosfog]

Saw a 75.4 last night in Van at a Super Save but most of the other stations still had it over 80.

[NetMapel]

I'm from Vancouver... it's about 80c last night when I filled my tank. Down from 87c about 2-3 weeks ago when I last filled my tank. I can just feel the sound of "cha-ching" and savings when I fill my gas !!!

[vid]

Only 85.9c/L! I think that's the lowest in the country!!!

[Greco Roman]

Only 85.9c/L! I think that's the lowest in the country!!!

Yes, lowest in the Western Superior country :D

[vid]

Even Rainy River and Kenora have lower prices than us! :(

There is this bubble around Thunder Bay where gas is 20% higher than the national average. People are pissed off, but not enough to actually do anything about it.

[highdensitysprawl]

Even Rainy River and Kenora have lower prices than us! :(

There is this bubble around Thunder Bay where gas is 20% higher than the national average. People are pissed off, but not enough to actually do anything about it.


Is it worth the drive to northern MN or are the prices high there?.....maybe people in TB could set off some fires in their backyards to tick off people. or is that an accepted practic in 7 digit dialing areas.

[vid]

Yeah, lots of people drive down to Ryden's store to fill up, it's about 40c less per litre, or almost $2.00 less per gallon. A lot of people from around Grand Portage come up here to christmas shop at this time of year and they're floored when they see gas prices up here. :no: The low dollar is also hurting them, less people going to the reserve to gamble this winter and probably in the near future.

[Sony500]

71.4 in Moncton NB now.

[Sony500]

Even Rainy River and Kenora have lower prices than us! :(

There is this bubble around Thunder Bay where gas is 20% higher than the national average. People are pissed off, but not enough to actually do anything about it.

I don't think its a matter of not being pissed off enough, but what can you do? They will put the price up or down as they see fit, it don't matter how angry you get, it won't do any good. The government says they want to see why gas prices were so high. They are the reason the price was so high with all the taxes they put on gas. Just like alcohol. I bought a 1 litre bottle of Captain Morgan rum in St. Thomas for $6.99, here in New Brunswick for a 750ml. they want $24.00. Its all tax.

[harls]

Can you run your car on it?

[worldwide]

The government says they want to see why gas prices were so high. They are the reason the price was so high with all the taxes they put on gas.

and yet the tax is still not enough

also, how could this be the case and yet we still have large fluctuations in price? if the tax was really as high as you say it is then how could gas cost so little right now?

[mersar]

The claim its all (or even just mostly due to taxes) is laughable, especially considering a lot of the tax is a fixed amount per litre, not a percentage that will increase as price goes up. Really only the GST/HST/PST are percentages, all the excise taxes, provincial taxes, etc, are a fixed amount.

[SpongeG]

well vancouver has an 11 cent translink tax on all gas in the metro and the BC gove't has a 2 cent carbon tax on all gas in BC - its a fixed amount not a %

so in abbotsford which is not part of the GVRD gas is always much cheaper

[vid]

I don't think its a matter of not being pissed off enough, but what can you do? They will put the price up or down as they see fit, it don't matter how angry you get, it won't do any good. The government says they want to see why gas prices were so high. They are the reason the price was so high with all the taxes they put on gas. Just like alcohol. I bought a 1 litre bottle of Captain Morgan rum in St. Thomas for $6.99, here in New Brunswick for a 750ml. they want $24.00. Its all tax.

Tax Rates

Rates in Effect at this date

The Act imposes a tax on a purchaser at the rate of:

* 14.7 cents per litre of unleaded gasoline
* 17.7 cents per litre of leaded gasoline
* 4.3 cents per litre of propane
* 2.7 cents per litre of aviation fuel

http://www.rev.gov.on.ca/english/bulletins/gt/gas1_2003.html#Tax

I'm sorry, but the tax isn't that much. If you removed the tax from the prices, Thunder Bay would still be 20c more expensive per litre than Toronto!

Now explain that.

[Nicko999]

77.4 in Montreal

[Sony500]

EXCUSE ME!! so I didn't mean its ALL tax, don't take much does it? All I was saying is that the gas would be alot cheaper if there wasn't so much tax on our gas. I will be more careful on how i word things.

Gas went up here 3 cents per litre, then dropped one cent now 73.9
Crude oil is just over 36.00 per barrel yesterday, apparently it went below 36.00 at some point.

[Sony500]

I understand that prices would still be 20cents more than Toronto, because they would remove the taxes in Toronto too. It sucks that you have to pay such high prices and the only thing you can do about it is move.