[Prairie Guy]

with your guys logic, if oil were $1 a barrel then a liter would cost 1 cent. there are costs involved with production and in the supply chain. changes in price per barrel and price per liter are never going to be a 1:1 ratio

So what you are saying is that despite the fact that the price of oil is going down, it still makes perfect cents for the price of gas to be going up?

Yeah, whatever. :rolleyes:

[worldwide]

So what you are saying is that despite the fact that the price of oil is going down, it still makes perfect cents for the price of gas to be going up?

Yeah, whatever. :rolleyes:

technically the price of gas is going down too... it makes no sense to look at day to day price fluctuations when were talking about long term trends.

anyways, this may be your answer





http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/02/15/ap6054098.html

[SpongeG]

98.0 today

[Nicko999]

91.4

[entheosfog]

98.0 today

boourns!

I got gas yesterday on Clark and it was 98 then later that day, same place, it was 93! Now, back up to 98. What the hell? They must have known I was coming :rolleyes:

[SpongeG]

yah i got it at 92.4 the other night - friday night

it seems to be go up saturdays

[mylesmalley]

...83.4 this afternoon.

[Denscity]

93.9 up 4 cents from a few days ago

[mersar]

Some stations here were 84.9 the other day, dropped to 80.4 yesterday though.

[Nicko999]

89.4 today

[manny_santos]

Whoa, poor Montreal. 82.9 in London today, about two cents lower than last week.

[Nicko999]

:previous: 87.9 today, catching S.Ontario before the 10 cents jump:D

[Nicko999]

87.4 now

[Nicko999]

86.4 today

[harls]

I drove to Montreal for work yesterday and gassed up in Casselman, ON for 79.5... Montreal was 89 cents..you guys are getting corn holed.

[1ajs]

average is 88 here lowest is the esso on main just a stones throw from me at 85 but theres also 7 cents off things at many of the stations here so realy ur paying 70somthing

[SpongeG]

89.9 today

the stations all had lineups

[Nicko999]

keep going down but for how long? 85.4

[Nicko999]

still no jump! 84.4

[Nicko999]

83.4

[MolsonExport]

79.1 in London (the boring one)

[Sony500]

81.4 in Moncton NB, regulation change is tomorrow night.
Oil still under $40.00 per barrel... $39.64

[Nicko999]

82.4 in Montreal

[Nicko999]

Down to 80.4

[mylesmalley]

word is, gas is going down another 5c tonight. should put us back around 77 in NB

[Sony500]

another week goes by myles, 7cent jump up tomorrow
77 cents today, probably 84 tomorrow

[MolsonExport]

the price is lower than the daily rate of job losses in London (the boring one).

[Nicko999]

Came back and 91.4
WTF

[Nicko999]

84.4 in Montreal

[Sony500]

82.2 in Moncton NB

[Nicko999]

I don't even want to check the price:yuck:

[Nicko999]

Getting closer to the dollar mark: 97.4

[harls]

They are saying that the new HST in Ontario will result in higher gas prices. I hope not... I really enjoy the savings gasing up in Ottawa.

[Nicko999]

They are saying that the new HST in Ontario will result in higher gas prices. I hope not... I really enjoy the savings gasing up in Ottawa.

How much will be the new HST?

[vid]

13%, a combination of the 5% GST and 8% PST. It will add 8% taxes to the current gas price, which is only taxed by GST, apparently. I don't think it actually takes effect until Summer 2010. In June 2010, December 2010 and June 2011, we will get cheques totalling $1,000 for families earning under $160,000 and $300 for individuals earning under $80,000 to help "offset" the cost on things that are currently only taxed by 5% GST and will be taxed 13% HST next summer. And that is if the budget passes, which is probably will.

The only thing my household buys that will see its taxes increase with HST is hydro, and we pay less than $40 a month for that. (Conservation and knowing well enough to stay away from "private" locked in contracts. My grandparents pay seven times what we do for energy and they use only slightly more and have a smaller home!! That's Direct Energy for you.)

Gas around the city is between 86.7 and 90.7, except for a place up the street from me, which is, for some reason, 99.9. The guy just loves gauging people. I never see vehicles go there but he just stays in business. And he put up a Vote Conservative sign in the last election. The only on in the neighbourhood. (The Green Party does better in my neighbourhood than the Conservatives.)

[mersar]

We went up to 85.9 last weekend, everyone has retreated to 82.9 for now. Couple Calgary stations are still up around 88, others down closer to 80

[Rumors]

91.4 in Montreal. :(

[MolsonExport]

They are saying that the new HST in Ontario will result in higher gas prices. I hope not... I really enjoy the savings gasing up in Ottawa.

Yep. gives you more $ to spend on cheaper beer in Quebec. the benefits of living in the capital region...:D

[SpongeG]

99.7 this morning

last night was 100.9

its been that way for the last few days

although i did get some at 96.2 the other day

[Nicko999]

Wow, it went below 90 cents:sly:
89.4

[vid]

It's down around 86.7 here, our first ship was a big tank of gas from Sarnia so I think that might have had something to do with it. :P It was in the mid-90s last week.

[Nicko999]

Down to 87.4!

[harls]

Yesterday I stuck a 3 ft length of truncated garden hose into my neighbour's acura and sucked out the gas, gargling 91 octane fuel removes unsightly plaque.

price? free.

[Nicko999]

It went down to 84.9

[Sony500]

85.8 in Moncton

[MolsonExport]

Yesterday I stuck a 3 ft length of truncated garden hose into my neighbour's acura and sucked out the gas, gargling 91 octane fuel removes unsightly plaque.

price? free.

It is always a good idea to light a cigarette just after doing such.

[Nicko999]

88.4...

[Nicko999]

It went up to 104.4!!! Bastards

[Denscity]

It's been the same 89.9 here for a couple of months now. It used to change once a week. Hmm?

[Nicko999]

Back under a dollar: 99.4.

[mersar]

Calgary and area is slowly creeping up. A number of stations are at 91.9, others are still down around 82.9

[Nicko999]

Oil above 60$ for the first time in 6 months...

[MolsonExport]

93.8 cents here. what is the deal with the 0.8 cents?

[Nicko999]

98.4 today. Oil going up, gas going down! Oil going down, gas going up

[Nicko999]

I must be dreaming... I saw a station showing 94.9 in Montreal:sly:

[Sony500]

94.3 here in Moncton.

[mersar]

Some stations in Calgary were up to 95.9 according to the news last night. I filled up for 82.9 last night in the Beltline though.

[vid]

97.9 is the average here.

[Nicko999]

Keep going down, 94.4

[MolsonExport]

when the hell did mtl gas become as cheap as london gas? sounds like those oil companies are full of farts.

[Nicko999]

when the hell did mtl gas become as cheap as london gas? sounds like those oil companies are full of farts.

The 10 cents increase is probably coming soon...

EDIT: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6742/scr1242442440.png

[MolsonExport]

^I lived right behind that very shell station for 4 years! ch. Bonavista.

[Nicko999]

^I lived right behind that very shell station for 4 years! ch. Bonavista.

always the first to bring the price up.

[MolsonExport]

^y'know, I filled up there maybe only once in my 4-years. Hated the place. but I was 4 floors up, on the mountain...could see downtown, the river, heck, I could see Jay Peak from my balcony!!

[SpongeG]

it was 103.1 last night - i think it was 100.7 this morning

[Nicko999]

I was shocked... It was 103.4 in Montreal this morning! Went to Mont-Tremblant to see the gas at 90.4:sly:
Back to Montreal, gas was 102.4:yuck:

[MolsonExport]

^market forces, indeed.

[MolsonExport]

London gas price today: 97.7
St. Thomas (20 kms south of London) gas price today: 90.1

why? just 'cause they like fucking with you.

[highdensitysprawl]

London gas price today: 97.7
St. Thomas (20 kms south of London) gas price today: 90.1

why? just 'cause they like fucking with you.

Well, there has to be some incentive for wanting to live in St. Thomas.

[Nicko999]

Back under a dollar in Montreal: 98.4.

[Nicko999]

Back under a dollar in Montreal: 99.4

Probably the last time until a few more months(or years).

[SpongeG]

i got gas on the way in today - it was 106.4 and than i passed a station further on and it was 104.2

[MolsonExport]

Well, there has to be some incentive for wanting to live in St. Thomas.

yep. but i suspect it would take a shitload more than that.

[Nicko999]

Some gas stations are down to 105.9...

According to gasbuddy.com the cheapest gas in Canada is in Gananoque, Ontario and Rocky Mountain House, Alberta at 85.9

[harls]

filled up for 90.4 a couple of days ago in Ottawa.

94.4 in Aylmer.

it's BOLD so you know it's important.

[J-MAN]

London gas price today: 97.7
St. Thomas (20 kms south of London) gas price today: 90.1

why? just 'cause they like fucking with you.

:cheers:

according to http://www.winnipeggasprices.com/ the cheapest gas in winnipeg is 91.4 while the most expensive is 98.9

[SpongeG]

it was 107.0 this afternoon when i filled up and a couple hours later it was 104.9

[Nicko999]

Down to 104.4

[Nicko999]

101.4

[SpongeG]

was 105.3 on the way in

[Nicko999]

Back under a dollar again 99.4.
According to gasbuddy some stations are 96.9 in Montreal

[MolsonExport]

assholery. the whole damned thing.

[Nicko999]

97.4 in Montreal... for now

[Nicko999]

Gananoque has the cheapest price in Canada: 85.6, I filled there this weekend.:)

In Montreal, 105.4:yuck:

[Nicko999]

101.4 today in Montreal. Will be 111.4 tommorow:yuck:

[harls]

101.4 today in Montreal. Will be 111.4 tommorow:yuck:

Why don't you close your anus and drive to Ontario for gas (unless you like it like that?)

[Nicko999]

Why don't you close your anus and drive to Ontario for gas (unless you like it like that?)

Vermont is closer and cheaper. Less than an hour drive and you can fill for 65 cents in the States.
But yeah, I fill everytime I go to Ontario(85.9 last week).

[Nicko999]

You don't want to know the price in Montreal...Oil is only 70$:rolleyes:

[Rumors]

You don't want to know the price in Montreal...Oil is only 70$:rolleyes:

I can't believe we are letting these thieves get away with this bullshit. :yuck:

[Boreal]

^market forces, indeed.

Isn't that the truth. Every time I hear that argument regarding gas prices I have a very similar reaction as yourself. It's such a joke. Those firms that claim market forces ARE the market forces. (I apologize if I extrapolated too far on your quick input, I'm not trying you put words in your mouth MolsonExport)

[harls]

103.4 here today. Been like this for a while now.

[waterloowarrior]

Quirky, sometimes confusing gasoline discounts being cut in Manitoba capital
By Steve Lambert (CP) – 2 hours ago

WINNIPEG — It's the end of an era for some Prairie motorists - an end that the mathematically challenged are bound to welcome.

For almost 10 years, the discount gasoline hunt had become a way of life for drivers in cities such as Winnipeg in search of the best deal. They would pay little heed to the official price posted on large signs at gas stations and searched instead for a smaller sign that would indicate a discount of anywhere between 3 1/2 and seven cents a litre.

The discount could vary from day to day and neighbourhood to neighbourhood. That prompted drivers to do subtractions in their head while their hands were on the wheel. At the peak of the discount frenzy five years ago, discounts were sometimes adjusted more than once a day.

Now, however, some of the larger retailers have decided that times have changed. They're phasing out the at-the-pump discounts and are reducing the price on their signs, so what you see is what you pay.

"We felt it was just appropriate that ... the price at the pump reflect the price on the sign," Jeff Gabert, spokesman for Shell Canada, said this week from Calgary.

Winnipeg is one of the very few cities in Canada (Edmonton is another) where gas has been regularly selling below the advertised price.

"It definitely is unique," says Rob Warren, a director and instructor at the University of Manitoba's business school.

"There aren't many products that are sold below the price that's promoted."
The discounts started in the early 2000s, when gas prices jumped suddenly to then-unheard-of level of around 70 cents. It's not clear which company was first to offer the discounts - the companies point to each other. But the practice mushroomed.

"I think it was some of the major box stores, like Safeway, that started it," says Calgary-based Dennis Floate, spokesman for Husky, which is ending at-the-pump discounts in both Winnipeg and Edmonton.

The discounts caught on in Winnipeg largely because of its relatively-low incomes and a steady economy that neither booms nor busts, according to Warren. He also says residents of the provincial capital are more likely than other Canadians to hunt for a special deal.

"People (here) are very price-sensitive and they'll wait out a price reduction before they buy," he says.

"Winnipeg and Edmonton are kind of government centres, so you're got kind of a nice stable income, but people who aren't overly wealthy, whereas a place like Calgary, you've got a lot of wealthy people because of ... the oil industry."
The ever-changing discounts were popular, despite the fact they were enough to bewilder even the most experienced drivers.

"By the time you'd chase around all week long, you probably spent more gas trying to get a bargain than just going to one place," chuckles Debbie McMahon, a driver and dispatcher at Dave's Courier Service with 30 years of driving behind her.

"It was confusing because you were always trying to find the places that always had the 3.5 or 5.5 (cent discount) or whatever."

The retailers are calling the move away from at-the-pump discounts "net pricing" and are promoting it as more transparent for consumers.

But the discounts are proving to be a hard habit to break completely. Some smaller retailers are, at least for the time being, continuing to offer discounts. And McMahon says her colleagues at the courier company have found one outlet that offers a steady seven-cent discount on weekends.

Even Shell is hinting that its move away from discounts may not be permanent.

"From now on, at the Shell stations at least, for the near future, you're going to see that the price on the sign is going to be the price at the pump," Gabert says.
Copyright © 2009 The Canadian Press. All rights reserved.

[waterloowarrior]

Stepping on the gas, in record amounts
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/stepping-on-the-gas-in-record-amounts/article1226382/
While U.S. gasoline sales have slumped, Canadian consumption has soared to a new high

Heather Scoffield and Jennifer MacMillan
Ottawa, Toronto — Globe and Mail Update

Last updated on Tuesday, Jul. 21, 2009 07:54PM EDT
Thanks to his Ford Ranger, house painter Richard Gouveia has kept on trucking through the recession, relying on his pickup to get to work from his Toronto-area home and to haul gear from one job to another.

After a slump in business last year, Mr. Gouveia said he's now driving as much as he ever has.

Like many other Canadians, he hasn't cut back on the gas he uses, despite the recession, and in stark contrast to Americans who have changed their driving habits.

Gasoline consumption in Canada hit a record in April as consumers spent $1.839-billion, Statistics Canada said yesterday, using data adjusted to eliminate price changes and seasonal factors.

In the United States, in contrast, gasoline consumption dropped sharply late last year, and has since stabilized at a lower level, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. Mileage has also dropped sharply for American drivers.

The Statscan numbers show consumption rose 3.6 per cent in April from a year earlier, although there's no specific data for 2009 to suggest Canadians are driving more or are returning to gas guzzlers.

But the fact that Canadians are doing better than Americans means they're not facing the same pressure to drive less, said Michael Ervin, president of refining and marketing consultancy MJ Ervin & Associates.

“People still have to get to work and pick up groceries,” he said from his Calgary office. “We haven't seen any discernible decline in demand.”

Mr. Ervin also pointed out that gas prices in April were lower than they were last year, despite being on the rise since the beginning of this year. But Canadians haven't been immune to the effects of the global recession and high gas prices.

Last summer, drivers cut back as the slump took hold in Canada and gasoline prices soared.

But consumption climbed again last fall and stabilized during the darkest days of the downturn. And when the labour market slowed its freefall this spring, gasoline consumption resumed its upward track.

Canadian gas use isn't higher across the board – sales of low-sulphur diesel, used by transport trucks, fell 7 per cent in the first four months of 2009 from last year. The drop was steeper in Ontario, which saw a 15-per-cent decline as manufacturers shuttered operations over the past year.

However, Philip Cross, chief economic analyst at Statistics Canada, said the latest gas use numbers are another sign that employment and incomes are not declining as much in Canada as in the U.S.

In Canada, auto sales have also picked up – in May, sales of new motor vehicles rose 1 per cent from April, mainly because of a 2.2-per-cent increase in sales of trucks, vans and buses. Over the past year, car sales have plunged 24 per cent, but truck sales have only fallen 4.6 per cent, Statscan said.

Many Canadians are still driving the compact cars they bought last year and earlier, when gasoline prices were rising, said Benjamin Tal, an economist at CIBC World Markets. However, with their more efficient cars, Canadians are also showing a tendency to drive more as they take advantage of their savings – a paradox of efficiency, he said.

“What you're seeing now is the ‘efficiency paradox' working beautifully,” he said. “You drive more miles because you think you're saving money.”

Fuel efficiency has improved so much that vehicles in Canada use 9.8 litres to travel 100 kilometres on average, the first time that number has fallen below 10 litres.

Auto industry analyst Dennis DesRosiers said he's skeptical that Canadians are spending more time on the road.

“Two-thirds to three-quarters of driving is related to work,” said Mr. DesRosiers, president of DesRosiers Automotive Consultants Inc. in Richmond Hill, Ont. “With these unemployment rates, the total amount of driving is down, absolutely down.”

Bob Bentley of the Freedom Ford dealership in Edmonton said he has seen a growing interest in fuel-efficient cars, but not from his truck-driving customers.

“In rural areas, people have always favoured trucks over cars and that trend hasn't changed,” Mr. Bentley said.

He added that trucks have also been insulated from big fluctuations in sales because of the built-in demand from people who need them for work, such as Mr. Gouveia back in Ontario. With files from reporter

Greg Keenan in Toronto

[Nicko999]

Back to under a dollar in Montreal... 99.4

[Witty Nickname]

95.9 for the past 3 weeks or so in Calgary.

[Holden West]

107.4

[Nicko999]

Back to 109.4
It's only in Montreal where you could see one of the highest gas prices in the country and the next week, one of the lowest.