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vanman
Sep 26, 2007, 6:08 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/533770.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/477114-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Picture.jpg


http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/index.html

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image01.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image02.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image03.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image04.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image05.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image06.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image07.jpg

The three tower project will eventually include a 4th and 5th tower and a significant amount of retail space adjacent to the New West Skytrain station.

Construction updates I took in July:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00995.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00996.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00994.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00998.jpg

mr.x
Sep 26, 2007, 6:29 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00998.jpg

Why is there something hanging over the SkyTrain guideway? Is it part of those station improvements?

vanman
Sep 26, 2007, 1:04 PM
It's a temporary barrier to protect the passing skytrains below from falling debris during construction. Eventually there will be a permanant overhang along the entire south side of the development to act as a noise barrier for the above condos. From some of the plans that I've seen it will be clad in some sort of metal ie. stainless steel.

osirisboy
Sep 26, 2007, 1:52 PM
The three tower project will eventually include a 4th and 5th tower and a significant amount of retail space adjacent to the New West Skytrain station.

Construction updates I took in July:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC00995.jpg

is this all above grade parking?

Volksboi
Sep 26, 2007, 3:00 PM
Yea they have 8 storys of above grade parking because they did not want anyones veiw blocked by the skytrain....

officedweller
Sep 26, 2007, 7:43 PM
There may also be soft soils/high water table in the area - a number of projects near there have above grade parkades. Not sure whether its a question of the cost being too high for underground parking or whether New West just doesn't insist on it or both.
I also heard that the London Drugs near there had subsided?
There will be retail at grade.

vanman
Sep 26, 2007, 9:26 PM
^ Yeah it must be because of soil conditions cause all the towers up the hill and in Uptown New West all have underground parking.

The London Drugs has been completely gutted and is now a vacant lot. There is a rendering of the new building on the fence surrounding the site. I got nothing to do today so I think I'll take some pictures of the area.

SpongeG
Sep 26, 2007, 9:53 PM
whats going at the london drugs site?

vanman
Sep 26, 2007, 11:20 PM
I believe it is a retail/ office building with retail at grade and 2 or 3 office floors above, I can't remember exactly however.

SpongeG
Sep 26, 2007, 11:31 PM
nice

SFUVancouver
Sep 27, 2007, 12:22 AM
Will there be retail at grade? Looking at the second and third illustrations it appears like the building won't relate very well to the street, in my opinion. There seems to be a lot of driveways crossing the sidewalk and it looks like pedestrians will have to walk alot of asphalt via crosswalks instead of having actual sidewalks.

I'm neutral, leaning towards critical, of this development. I like the density but I dislike the fact they have chosen to go with three identical towers and so much above-ground parking. If the parking to unit ratio is more than 1:1 New Westminster will have really stumbled in my books. It is right on top of a SkyTrain station -why so much parking? They'll have to work pretty hard to make the podium look like anything more than an eight-storey parking garage.

Also, who will pay to upgrade the SkyTrain station? If the developer does it Translink must oversee and approve the project to ensure quality materials and finishings are used. If the station is being enclosed in glass, as some of the renders seem to show, then will the station be airconditioned? I wouldn't want to breathe in vehicle exhaust from the garage while waiting for the train.

I like the idea, and I will hold off final judgement until it is complete, but so far not so good.

officedweller
Sep 27, 2007, 12:32 AM
The site spans several city blocks - so in that third pic, I think the one with the crosswalk zebra stripes is a street, not a driveway. The one closest to the viewer is probably a driveway.
I think I recall the New West Newsleader story saying that the podium for the middle tower is required to access the parking for the west tower. The west tower is the tower under construction in the pics and there was some controversy about proceeding with the podium for the next tower (to allow access to the west tower's parking) before all the details were worked out about the next tower.
- so hopefully there won't be too many driveways...

Can't tell where the streets will be from this April 2007 Global Air Photo. A wider sidewalk or setback along that overpass would have been nice.
http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/new_westminster/2007/nwh2007_046.jpg

vanman
Sep 27, 2007, 12:44 AM
Will there be retail at grade? Looking at the second and third illustrations it appears like the building won't relate very well to the street, in my opinion. There seems to be a lot of driveways crossing the sidewalk and it looks like pedestrians will have to walk alot of asphalt via crosswalks instead of having actual sidewalks.


I agree that the north face of the site is definitely not that pedestrian friendly, however there is supposed to be retail at grade.

I like the density but I dislike the fact they have chosen to go with three identical towers and so much above-ground parking. If the parking to unit ratio is more than 1:1 New Westminster will have really stumbled in my books. It is right on top of a SkyTrain station -why so much parking? They'll have to work pretty hard to make the podium look like anything more than an eight-storey parking garage.


Once again I believe the above ground parking is due to the soil conditions on the site, and the fact that is in a low lying area not far from the Fraser River and could be prone to flooding. As for the amount of parking stalls I think the developer applied recently to the city to reduce the amount of parking required for the project to less than 1:1 ratio.

Also, who will pay to upgrade the SkyTrain station? If the developer does it Translink must oversee and approve the project to ensure quality materials and finishings are used. If the station is being enclosed in glass, as some of the renders seem to show, then will the station be airconditioned? I wouldn't want to breathe in vehicle exhaust from the garage while waiting for the train.


I'm still confused as to how the development will relate to the skytrain station. From what I've seen the main retail building to the south of the station will connect to the second floor of the station and not the platform level.

SpongeG
Sep 27, 2007, 12:50 AM
yeah they can't have underground parking in that area cause of the river

FYI there is a huge fire in New Westminster - something that was under construction - near the hospital... I am thinking its the one hooked to the skytrain at sapperton?

officedweller
Sep 27, 2007, 2:50 AM
On second thought, the aerial shots of the condos along the Quay don't show above ground parkades??

SpongeG
Sep 27, 2007, 3:11 AM
they are though - the towers are along the tracks and the townnhouses are built in and around and on top off

if you look at that first group of townhouses next to the hotel - that little white thing is a door to the parkade -see how also the whole things is a big square - thats all the parking underneath

i used to walk around that area a lot

that hotel at the quay is built on top of its parking lot - it looks ground level

mr.x
Sep 27, 2007, 3:21 AM
What improvements is the developer exactly promising for the SkyTrain station?

Canadian Mind
Sep 27, 2007, 4:42 AM
How much room does New West have left for towers? Even is foil isn't that great, I feel it a waste of space, and airspace (views) for there to be above ground parking. If there is a noise concern, put office on the lower levels, and soundproof the one wall.

officedweller
Sep 27, 2007, 8:34 PM
they are though - the towers are along the tracks and the townnhouses are built in and around and on top of


Thanks for the clarification.

Volksboi
Sep 27, 2007, 9:08 PM
Thanks for the clarification.

Hey Guys!

Just a FYI on the whole underground parking question. It has nohing to do with the proximity to the river at all. This developer has owned the site for 16 years and it has taken this long for the city to approve the above ground parking. And the reason they did this was because how close it is to the skytrain and they did not want anything blocking any veiws. and for the buildings along the river, Yes they do have underground parking as i used to live in one of them. The condos directly on the river have underground parking, and the ones across the street have above ground because they are right next to the railroad tracks. hope this clarifys lots!

And to touch base on the retail side of things, the development will have 90% of its retail space on the site opposite to the towers and they will all be connected to the tower aswell, and the skytrain station is being upgraded by translink while being partnered with the development company.

officedweller
Sep 27, 2007, 9:53 PM
Thanks!

SpongeG
Sep 27, 2007, 11:45 PM
doesn't it flood though?

the movie theatre floods often cause it has underground parking and is at the river level

paradigm4
Sep 28, 2007, 4:47 AM
Got some construction pics today.

Either Azure I or II. Part of the Plaza 88 development directly north of New Westminster Station.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1340/1449772625_7538b13691.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1203/1449882003_34bd69147c.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1088/1450641858_52c84a036d.jpg

Either Azure I or II. Part of the Plaza 88 development directly northwest of New Westminster Station. This is the tower with the overhang.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1255/1450644266_614d031d8c.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1326/1450636838_4c9527fcef.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1162/1449787607_7626fc5975.jpg

Same tower as above, with the Marinus at Plaza 88 site getting prepped in the foreground.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1337/1450632580_808c419212.jpg

mr.x
Sep 28, 2007, 4:51 AM
so exactly what kind of renovations/improvements will the SkyTrain station get?

SpongeG
Sep 28, 2007, 6:10 AM
there's a rendering somehwere

it shows a shopping mall type thing where people get to the trains

SpongeG
Sep 28, 2007, 6:13 AM
heres another view

http://www.pacificmetropolis.com/images/plaza_88.jpg

mr.x
Sep 29, 2007, 8:27 PM
SkyTrain access key to the design of Marinus
Bus lines, shopping, will also be within steps of project

Westcoast Homes
Published: Saturday, September 29, 2007

MARINUS AT PLAZA 88

Location: New Westminster

Project size: 240 residences, 26-storey tower

Residence size: 600 sq. ft. -- 1,152 sq. ft.

Prices: From $288,900

Presentation centre: 901 Columbia

Hours: Noon -- 5 p.m., Sat -- Thu

Telephone: 604-519-9188

Web: marinusliving.com

Developer: Degelder Group and Charter Pacific

Architect: Via Architecture

Interior: Jane McCutcheon Design

Occupancy: Summer 2009

- - -

"Close to transportation links" is a claim local developers like to make, but there's only one project in the Lower Mainland that can truly claim SkyTrain is at its doorstep.

The developers of Marinus at Plaza 88 in New Westminster, have forged close links with BC Transit and the municipality to offer a development that has a SkyTrain platform bisecting its residential and commercial development.

Residents of the 26-storey tower will simply take their condo elevator downstairs to the main level -- also a retail level -- in order to access SkyTrain. There is also the existing New Westminster bus loop, which will be upgraded, at street level.

"The whole emphasis of the project is getting people out of their cars and to promote public transport," says developer Mike

Degelder. "There's no comparable for this type of project."

The Marinus is the third tower at Plaza 88 now under construction on a five-acre site at Columbia Street, near New Westminster Quay. There already is an overpass on the site to access the nearby waterfront. In total, there will be 2,140 condo units in the residential component of the project, and 180,000 square feet of retail. Already, Safeway and Shoppers Drug Mart are on board as major retail clients.

Because transportation was key in this project, the development had to do an overall design for the entire project instead of designing it in phases, says Degelder.

After the third tower, Marinus, is completed in the summer of 2009, construction will begin on the retail phase of the project.

"People will be able to live and shop here," says Degelder, who adds the project will be a benefit to the community as a whole, noting students from nearby Douglas College can easily access transit and enjoy shopping at the complex.

He adds many students or their parents have bought units from the first two phases -- Azure and Azure II.

Both towers are now sold out. The official opening for Marinus is today, but 80 condos have already been presold. The first occupancy for these first two towers commences next summer. The penthouses in Marinus will not be offered for sale until after construction is completed.

Each floor will have nine suites per floor, with one unit per floor being a one-bedroom unit of 600 square feet, and the remaining units either two-bedrooms or two-bedrooms, plus den. The two-bedrooms average around 800 square feet, with the largest -- it includes a den -- being 1,152 square feet.

And because the eight-level parkade is elevated, all the suites have views, either toward the Fraser River or the North Shore.

"It's like the Coal Harbour of New Westminster," says Degelder.

"No one is offering waterfront access like us and the views."

Features include granite kitchen and bathroom countertops, stainless steel appliances and a soaker tub and separate glass shower in the master bathrooms. All of the suites have large balconies, of approximately 150 square feet, and are wired for advanced in-home multi-media communication technology.

homes@png.canwest.com


© The Vancouver Sun 2007

Mike K.
Sep 29, 2007, 8:48 PM
Which of the three towers is currently u/c?

Volksboi
Sep 29, 2007, 11:24 PM
Azure and Azure II

Mike K.
Sep 29, 2007, 11:40 PM
Thanks, but I meant from the rendering posted at the top of this page.

Volksboi
Sep 29, 2007, 11:44 PM
The first two next to the overpass

Mike K.
Sep 29, 2007, 11:45 PM
Excellent. Thanks.

vanman
Sep 30, 2007, 6:41 AM
Which of the three towers is currently u/c?

I'm pretty sure Marinus is u/c as well, the parking lot directly to the north of the Skytrain station has already been dug up as far as I remember.

Volksboi
Sep 30, 2007, 6:42 PM
Yes it is, but they are just pile driving right now.. so there is nothing actually built as of yet...

Mike K.
Sep 30, 2007, 6:54 PM
Oh, interesting. So all three towers have some form of activity taking place. It's amazing how quickly projects in Vancouver move from proposal to construction.

Volksboi
Sep 30, 2007, 10:31 PM
They sure are, this particular development is going up fast!

SpongeG
Oct 1, 2007, 12:55 AM
i thought it was kinda slow - lol

I first heard about it a few years ago and its only this year it seems that ithad finally started

officedweller
Oct 1, 2007, 9:03 PM
Pic from the Weekend Sun:

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/idl/vasn/20070929/158121-53005.jpg
Incomparable, developer Mike Degelder says of the latest Plaza 88 tower, a description equally appropriate for the three-tower, five-acre project in New Westminster.
Photograph by : Mark Van Manen, Vancouver Sun

vanman
Oct 4, 2007, 8:49 PM
Update from today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01237.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01233.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01232.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01231.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01229.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01228.jpg

Pile driving for Marinus.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01239.jpg
Ha, I never even noticed that zebra excavator until now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01238.jpg

officedweller
Oct 4, 2007, 9:01 PM
Looking good!
Thanks!

On Vanmans pics, you can see what is proabbly the retail space with higher ceilings on the Skytrain side of the podium:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01233.jpg

On Vanmans pics, that same retail level seems to be at the same elevation as the Skytrain Station mezzanine for a continuous connection:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01232.jpg

vanman
Oct 6, 2007, 8:18 AM
^ Never noticed that before but you might be right.

hollywoodnorth
Oct 6, 2007, 12:30 PM
wow does the New Westminister website suck shit....I cant find any renderings or plans or anything on Plaza 88..........pretty odd

CC420
Oct 6, 2007, 10:18 PM
I'm not a big fan of this project. To me, it looks like a giant wall much like the highrises to the west of this one which lie between the river and railroad tracks.

cornholio
Oct 6, 2007, 10:30 PM
I find it so stupid to have the parkade on the street side Canarvon st(sp?) while having the commercial space going up to the top on the skytrain guide way side. They should of just reversed it so they could help build up a decent highstreet which is what that part of Carnarvon should be rather then only doing a half ass job of limited retail at the bottom and a several story blank parkade at the top, and taking all the pedestrian traffic in to the middle of the project and away from anyplace where they could have a significant positive impact on safety and vibrancy of the neighborhood.

hollywoodnorth
Oct 7, 2007, 1:40 AM
ya I would REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! like to see a proper rendering or hell even a proper few pics of the fucking model.........again.....slack job on the New West city........but this project from what I am reading/hearing seems to have been rammed through city hall and also through translink.

You would think that seeing a TRANSLINK SKYTRAIN STATION is being severly modified........let alone moved a hundred feet or so west.....that the plans and renderings would be you know available for the public to see on their site etc..........ok thats it I am emailing translink now.

salmafan
Oct 7, 2007, 1:53 AM
Hi guys,
It's my first post on this forum :yes:

Here are some pics I took of Azure/Mariuns on this rainy day. I can confirm they have finished driving piles on Tower 3 (Mariuns).

Azure Tower 1 is only 5 floors from being topped off, it stands at Floor 28 right now. Conversly, Azure Tower 2 is on Floor 6, only 3 floors shy of the actual tower structure (as opposed to parkade) being constructed.

We bought a unit in Tower 2, so we can't wait to see it come up for air!

Happy Thanksgiving! :cheers:

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/salmafan/?action=view&current=IMG_0401.jpg

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/salmafan/?action=view&current=IMG_0402.jpg

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/salmafan/?action=view&current=IMG_0403.jpg

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/salmafan/?action=view&current=IMG_0404.jpg

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee187/salmafan/?action=view&current=IMG_0405.jpg

osirisboy
Oct 7, 2007, 6:01 AM
^^^^thanks for the pics and welcome to the forum!!!

i have to say i hate the podium to this project. the above ground parking is disgusting. if they didnt want to sell that space as condos b/c of the lack of views then they ought to have made it into office space.

vanman
Oct 7, 2007, 7:47 AM
Azure Tower 1 is only 5 floors from being topped off, it stands at Floor 28 right now.

I counted only 16 foors above the podium so in actuality the building has another 10 floors before topping out.

BTw welcome to the forum.

Volksboi
Dec 5, 2007, 9:28 PM
New Picture I took today from my balcony

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture214.jpg

vanman
Dec 5, 2007, 10:27 PM
It's starting to look quite massive now, especially from Surrey. I believe it must be the tallest building in New West.

officedweller
Dec 6, 2007, 4:28 AM
Thanks.
Is that only about 5 floors higher than the last pic posted by Vanman 2 months ago? (or is that a different tower (phase)?)

Volksboi
Dec 6, 2007, 8:52 AM
yea it appears that way...The reason I think its slowed down is because they have started the other two towers now....

Volksboi
Dec 7, 2007, 8:32 AM
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture217.jpg

SpongeG
Dec 7, 2007, 8:34 AM
wow - cool shot

officedweller
Dec 7, 2007, 9:37 AM
Wow, looks wide - and there are 2 more...

vanman
Dec 7, 2007, 8:26 PM
Some pictures I tool literally less than an hour ago at work from Annacis Island:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Picture568.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Picture571.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/Picture565.jpg

It's making quite an impact.

mr.x
Dec 7, 2007, 9:17 PM
^ New West looks dense from this angle. thx for the shots.

officedweller
Dec 8, 2007, 6:33 AM
Thanks - these should modernize the skyline a bit - i.e. cleaner looking towers.

Lead
Dec 8, 2007, 10:59 PM
Is that tower the 33, 35, or 37 floor tower?

vanman
Dec 9, 2007, 10:06 PM
^The tower under construction is actually the shortest of the 3 so the other two will be taller.

vanman
Dec 9, 2007, 10:07 PM
Thanks - these should modernize the skyline a bit - i.e. cleaner looking towers.

I agree. The current NW skyline especially close to the river is overwhelmingly ugly and dated.

Dylan Leblanc
Dec 9, 2007, 10:22 PM
wow, new west's skyline is starting to look crowded!

SpongeG
Dec 9, 2007, 10:44 PM
it looks great when you head north over the Alex Fraser - you could tell out of towners its the main city and they might believe you

vanman
Dec 9, 2007, 11:01 PM
I concur. Especially on days like we saw last week. You have all of NW (uptown & downtown) Metrotown and Edmonds with the mountains in behind all laid out in front of you, it's quite dramatic. One of these days i'm going to walk across that bridge and take some pictures.

shovelsauce
Dec 28, 2007, 11:51 AM
It's starting to look quite massive now, especially from Surrey. I believe it must be the tallest building in New West.

Easily the tallest. At the time the initial construction began this was going to be the tallest building (at least the 37 story) outside of Vancouver but that has since changed with what's going to go up in Central City.

For the past few weeks the lead tower has reached a height where you marvel at it and think man that's a big ass tall building! Since I first saw the plans I have loved the way these towers look and from the renderings I have seen the 8 level parkade isn't going to as much an eye sore as some are predicting.

Interesting to read earlier in this thread that Safeway was mentioned as the grocery anchor. For the longest time Save-On-Foods was mentioned. Shoppers Drug Mart and a liquor store are also pencilled in as tenants and although there is no official mention of it I will bet my entire 2008 salary there's a Starbucks in the equation somewhere!

worldwide
Dec 28, 2007, 6:30 PM
i'll take you up on that bet..... assuming your salary will even cover the price of a cappuchino

Lee_Haber8
Dec 28, 2007, 8:17 PM
They're going to mask that parkade right?

vanman
Dec 31, 2007, 2:49 AM
No, well not really. There going to try to liven up the street by having retail at grade but all the parking above will be exposed.

MolsonExport
Jan 3, 2008, 5:11 PM
Great stuff. I used to work in Metrotown (Burnaby), then Whalley (Surrey City Centre) back in the mid 90's, so I passed though New West very often. I always liked the gritty, hilly parts of the city juxtaposed with the new condos.

Is the dilapidated Hotel Garfield still around?
What about the Paramount Strip Club?

vanman
Jan 3, 2008, 8:02 PM
Hotel Garfield along with that whole block is about to be torn down for social housing (actually I think it will be a new shelter). The Paramount is still around but unfortunately it won't be for much longer.I've heard rumours that it will be closing. Mugs n Jugs has already closed as well as Chicagos. New West is definitlely losing alot of it's seediness and I'm not completely sure that it's a good or bad thing.

vanman
Jan 18, 2008, 2:11 AM
Pictures from today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01429.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01431.jpg
Too bad the sky was so dark and depressing today.

excel
Jan 18, 2008, 7:30 AM
Any clue on how close to topping out?

vanman
Jan 19, 2008, 6:32 AM
Azure I will be 33 flrs when completed including the 8 level parking podium. I counted 21 completed flrs above the parkade so 3 or 4 more floors til top out.

Volksboi
Jan 20, 2008, 3:51 AM
I think its actually topped off now, I live in the News the new towers accross from them and It looks like its topped off now...

officedweller
Jan 23, 2008, 5:31 AM
VIA Architecture has updated its website:

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/index.html

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image01.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image02.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image03.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image04.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image05.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image06.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image07.jpg

SpongeG
Jan 23, 2008, 5:44 AM
VIA Architecture has updated its website:


http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image06.jpg

http://www.via-architecture.com/projects/plaza88/image07.jpg


restaurant restaurant restaurant cafe :haha:

could there be a few more eating places - worst

officedweller
Jan 23, 2008, 5:56 AM
Restaurants would probably do better up there since they are "destination" retail.

cornholio
Jan 23, 2008, 6:23 AM
i wonder where the other two future towers will go. Maybe the Old Spaghetti Factory and south of that?
The current phazes should include 4 towers but from what i understand there will be one or two more towers built later on, i think one might be a hotel tower.

mr.x
Jan 23, 2008, 7:35 AM
holy crap, that's amazing! i've been really looking forward to this project, the outdoor rooftop mall is pure genius.

SpongeG
Jan 23, 2008, 7:54 AM
Restaurants would probably do better up there since they are "destination" retail.

i know but thats all poor columbia street is :haha:

excel
Jan 23, 2008, 12:18 PM
nice

officedweller
Jan 23, 2008, 7:32 PM
i know but thats all poor columbia street is :haha:

The same could be said for Yaletown, and Gastown has more and more restaurants moving in. I think people spend more freely on food than hard goods.

vanman
Jan 24, 2008, 12:06 AM
Nice find Ofiicedweller. I'm really not sure if there is enough demand in NW to sustain the amount of retail that will be built, maybe once all the condos are finished.Either the market at the quay or the IGA and surrounding stores will suffer though.

officedweller
Jan 24, 2008, 12:21 AM
Since Kwantlen is close by those restauarnt spaces could be made smaller and occupied by 99 cent pizza places!! (Seriously - just like along Pender downtown near SFU and BCIT downtown)

cornholio
Jan 24, 2008, 7:03 AM
^^I think the Quay is doomed...though not like I care.
^Its Douglas College thats there.

vanman
Jan 24, 2008, 7:15 AM
^Possibly. But I believe the owner of the quay has submitted plans for two 20 story res towers for the parking lot next to the Boathouse restaurant. With the Larco development+ nearby Columbia st buildings+Plaza88 the ever increasing density in the area may be enough to save it. They would probably have to invest in some renovations however.

officedweller
Jan 24, 2008, 7:46 PM
Thanks for the correction.

Volksboi
Feb 17, 2008, 4:14 AM
The First tower is topped off now, they are now working on the roofing "structure" and the second tower is now about one floor above the parkade. The third towers "footings" are poured and the parkade should be going up very very soon.

Volksboi
Feb 20, 2008, 12:33 AM
New Pics taken today!

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture596.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture602.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture629.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh57/volksboi/Picture598.jpg

officedweller
Feb 20, 2008, 1:06 AM
Nice looking towers.

mr.x
Feb 20, 2008, 2:57 AM
the parkade is huge.....thx for the pics.

Volksboi
Feb 20, 2008, 7:27 AM
Hey no prob, that development is huge and really coming along. Its been kind of neat seeing it rise ablove. Cant wait to see it finished!

vanman
Feb 20, 2008, 7:42 AM
Nice pics. Looks as though Azure II will be making an impact shortly.

SFUVancouver
Feb 21, 2008, 7:09 AM
A trio from the SkyTrain this evening.

(My photo, taken February 20th, 2008)
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8920/p1050469ty9.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/)

(My photo, taken February 20th, 2008)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1476/p1050473ba7.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/)

(My photo, taken February 20th, 2008)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2425/p1050474ky0.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.png (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ca/)


The last one is a little fuzzy due to the zoom and the zooming SkyTrain.

Three of the towers and InterUrban will make quite a nice impact on the New West skyline.

mr.x
Feb 21, 2008, 7:49 AM
it should make quite a bit of impact towards the New West skyline....can't wait to walk around that rooftop mall.

vanman
Mar 3, 2008, 4:57 AM
Some pictures I took earlier today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01589.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01559.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01560.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01561.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01562.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01563.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01564.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01566.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01565.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01570.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/DSC01582.jpg

officedweller
Mar 3, 2008, 6:03 AM
Nice, thanks.
There's another tower planned for the west side of the completed tower, right?

deasine
Mar 3, 2008, 6:05 AM
I think that was the plan... don't remember too well...

Great shots!

vanman
Mar 3, 2008, 1:46 PM
Nice, thanks.
There's another tower planned for the west side of the completed tower, right?

It looks like it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/image01.jpg

I'm sure once Marinus sells out they will begin marketing this fourth tower.

cornholio
Mar 3, 2008, 5:12 PM
^There is at least one more tower that will be built but its not part of the currently planed phases. It will replace the Old Spaghetti factory. There was even talk of a 6th tower at some point in the future but im not sure if that still is planed...definitely though there will be at least one more tower on the Old Spaghetti factory site that isnt shown in those renders and istn part of the currently planed phases.