New subdivision developments [Archive] - Page 9

canabiz

Apr 26, 2015, 2:48 AM

It looks like Minto will be building here for quite a while

http://ottawacitizen.com/life/homes/minto-launches-quinns-pointe-in-barrhaven

Minto may be selling off the last of its lots at Chapman Mills after a 15-year run there but the company’s not exactly calling it quits in Barrhaven.

On Saturday it launches Quinn’s Pointe, a master-planned community that will eventually see some 2,000 homes built on 250 acres off Greenbank Road not far from Chapman Mills. With over 1,700 units on the way in the east end at its Enclave at TrailsEdge and Avalon Encore projects and another 1,300 homes in the works for west-end Arcadia, Quinn’s Pointe will also rebalance Minto’s portfolio of active developments across the city.

“Barrhaven is definitely the strongest market in the city right now. People see the value (there),” says Minto senior vice-president Brent Strachan.

The first phase of Quinn’s Pointe will add 477 two-storey singles, bungalows and towns to the south-end community.

The new development features the 20 new designs Minto introduced last year at TrailsEdge, Arcadia Phase 2 and Avalon Encore as well as the popular Avenue back-to-back towns also launched last year. Those designs emphasize light, functionality and the optimal use of space.

Quinn’s Pointe also sees the debut of three new single-family designs as well as the new Executive Townhomes. All will be added to the selection at TrailsEdge, Avalon Encore and Arcadia.

The new single designs, all with traditionally themed elevations and four bedrooms, were borne of customer feedback at existing sites.

The 2,339-square-foot Georgian, for example, came from buyer demand for a dining room and living room plus a great room on the main floor. The home also features a flush breakfast bar. Situated on a 43–foot lot, it starts at $434,900.

The more modest Jefferson Corner is 1,744 square feet and starts at $379,900. It’s on a 30-foot lot but because it’s a corner location, the home has plenty of windows plus a two-car garage on the side.

The Okanagan, $549,900 and up, is 3,290 square feet on a 43-foot lot. It boasts a main-floor den, three-and-a-half baths and an optional fifth bedroom.

“For larger families or with an in-law living with them this provides that extra bedroom,” says Strachan. It was inspired by buyer requests for a larger home, again with dining, living and family rooms and a den on the main floor. It also has a “servery,” a short hall between the kitchen and dining room with room for a counter and sink, wine fridge, or storage space for fine dinnerware. The servery adjoins a walk-in pantry.

Both the Okanagan and Georgian boast a mudroom off the garage where grade permits, a practical design element Minto introduced with its new lineup last year.

The Okanagan boasts a main-floor den, three-and-a-half baths and an optional fifth bedroom.

The Okanagan starts at $549,900 for 3,290 square feet on a 43-foot lot. It boasts a main-floor den, three-and-a-half baths and an optional fifth bedroom.

The 2,339-square-foot Georgian came from buyer demand for a dining room and living room plus a great room on the main floor.

The Georgian sits on a 43–foot lot and starts at $434,900 for 2,339 square feet.

The new single designs, all with traditionally themed elevations and four bedrooms, were borne of customer feedback at existing sites. The Jefferson Corner sits on a 30-foot lot and boasts plenty of windows plus a two-car garage on the side.

The Jefferson Corner offers 1,744 square feet and starts at $379,900.

The first phase of Quinn’s Pointe will add 477 two-storey singles, bungalows and towns to the south-end community. Minto is debuting three new single-family designs as well as the new Executive Townhomes (pictured).

Photos: Minto launches Quinn's Pointe in Barrhaven

The master-planned community will eventually see some 2,000 homes built on 250 acres off Greenbank Road not far from Chapman Mills.

The homes at Quinn’s Pointe all give buyers the choice of three elevations for every floor plan and multiple exterior colours. “It provides variety for people who have different tastes and gives variation along streetscapes,” says Strachan.

Minto has also seen the flex kitchens it began offering with last spring’s new designs strike a chord. Options such as multiple or differently configured islands and varied sink locations are on buyers’ want lists, for example. Walk-in closets are popular at Minto’s other new sites so the company has included them in not just the master but in other bedrooms in the new Georgian and Okanagan models.

The singles at Quinn’s Pointe and elsewhere have fully insulated “rec room-ready” basements. Energy-efficient tankless hot water heaters and triple-paned windows are also standard. “Given the ceiling heights and the amount of glazing, we felt triple-glaze windows provide the optimal efficiency,” says Strachan.

Minto has gone with EnerGuide ratings on its new lineup. The rating on a scale of 0 to 100 provides a standard measure of a home’s energy performance, which can be compared to other homes. It includes a blower door test to identify potential energy loss through leakage. Compared to building just to Energy Star standards, EnerGuide “is more validation for the homeowner because each house is tested on how it performs,” says Strachan.

The EnerGuide rating will also apply to the five new executive towns being launched at Quinn’s Pointe. They range from the three-bedroom, 1,600-square-foot Carmel starting at $279,900 to the four-bedroom, 2,091-square-foot Venice Corner from $334,900.

The latter includes a den and optional fifth bedroom in the basement. All the executive towns have a finished family room in the basement. The executive towns also trumpet nine-foot ceilings on the main floor and open-concept main living areas for light and spaciousness.

Outside, buyers have the choice of either traditional or contemporary elevations.

“We’re offering affordability but without compromising layout or space,” says Strachan. “We’ve spent a lot of time on these designs, leveraging off our experience in towns.”

Minto is also offering its back-to-back Avenue townhome line at Quinn’s Pointe. They start at 1,154 square feet for $245,900.

Quinn’s Pointe, named for the Irish family that settled in the area in the 1800s, will include four acres of centrally located park land in phase one, a pond, and shorter streets for quieter, more private living.
Quinn’s Pointe

What: A master-planned community that will eventually see about 2,000 homes. Phase one is 477 singles and towns.

Builder: Minto Communities

Prices: Two-storey singles start at $334,900 for 1,441 square feet on 30-foot lots; bungalows at $444,900 for 1,478 square feet on 43-foot lots; towns at $245,900 for 1,154 square feet; executive towns at $279,900 for 1,600 square feet.

Sales office: 4005 Strandherd Dr.

Hours: Monday to Thursday, noon to 8 p.m.; weekends and holidays, 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. Closed Fridays.

Information: 613-823-1900, minto.com

Cre47

Aug 11, 2015, 12:34 AM

Street View has had various updates in May 2015 scattered around the area. Additionnal links may be added in the future

Here's Stonehaven Drive at Old Richmond, which they are filling up the last parcels of Bridlewood (Monahan Landing)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2808315,-75.8382821,3a,67.8y,167.81h,88.75t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smnltSkd56B4rv-iYqUZfWQ!2e0!5s20150501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Updated shot of Fernbank at Robert Grant (formely Founders Road) - though Google still did not entrered inside the neighborhood. Of note it appears Abbott Street extension appears to be under construction now

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2642804,-75.8853172,3a,18.2y,328.8h,89.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYIfv7fzKFCiOW2fQQO0kAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

First shots inside the area https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2781612,-75.8830157,3a,75y,1.27h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGZ2kj9-MSJgvbW6yN7W6jw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DGZ2kj9-MSJgvbW6yN7W6jw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D0.89589%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

Cre47

Aug 29, 2015, 4:06 AM

Google now has the first Cardinal Creek Streets shown. The first main collector (Laporte Ave) shown below. Not sure if I've posted this shot before.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4943583,-75.4678109,3a,51y,317.8h,85.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sc00a-a6m5rlPcGC6D3qsKw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dc00a-a6m5rlPcGC6D3qsKw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D67.846016%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

Plus slightly to the west at Dairy we have Barry Hobin's Aveia which is also just started in late 2014

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4916282,-75.4731372,3a,44.4y,123.37h,86.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC9lf9uBYRsspq6FPBFw8fg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

October Edit (thanks to recent Street View Updates throughout the summer):
Lots of work underway at Maple Grove and Johnwoods in East Stittsville (shot from June 2015)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.282584,-75.9283387,3a,75y,82.74h,81.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ7kAGPoasMdQVKWNI-YkLg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Jockvale west extension from June 2015

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.27352,-75.7814793,3a,75y,246.12h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFwPguFeqobJKWK6s3Wbvbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

South of Earl Armstrong/River Road (June 2015)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2638026,-75.7006254,3a,75y,48.65h,89.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDRSIjcgww6G4ewzRkniJmA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DDRSIjcgww6G4ewzRkniJmA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D233.18744%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

rocketphish

Oct 7, 2015, 2:04 AM

‘Urban creep’: Manotick fears OMB ruling could cost village its rural character

Joanne Laucius, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: October 6, 2015 | Last Updated: October 6, 2015 5:40 PM EDT

An Ontario Municipal Board decision to allow the rezoning of 124 hectares between Barrhaven and Manotick will expose the historic village to urban creep, says the head of the Manotick Village and Community Association.

Association president Klaus Beltzner wants to prevent Barrhaven from overrunning Manotick. “This basically gives the green light for developers to hopscotch across rural lands,” he said.

“The city has lost a significant case.”

Last October, council voted against an application from Barnsdale Landowners Group to re-designate the 124 hectares north of Barnsdale Road and bounded by Prince of Wales Drive to the east and Cedarview Road to the west from “agricultural resource” to “general rural area.” The developed areas just to the north of the 124 hectares forms the urban boundary.

The Barnsdale land is composed of 11 parcels of property. In their submission to the OMB, the landowners argued that the property did not qualify as prime agricultural land.

https://postmediaottawacitizen2.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/disappearing-agricultural-land.jpg?quality=55&strip=all&w=660

The city argued that agricultural lands should not be rezoned in a piecemeal fashion and maintained that the landowners should wait for a Land Evaluation and Area Review (LEAR), a comprehensive project to update soil mapping, which has not been completed.

Barnsdale appealed the matter to the OMB, a quasi-judicial provincial body that can overturn city council planning decisions.

The OMB agreed with the city that the land should be considered in a comprehensive way. But it also agreed that the landowners shouldn’t have to wait until 2018 for the completion of the LEAR to have the land considered for redesignation. The OMB added that Barnsdale Road was a logical boundary between the urban lands to the north and the agricultural lands to the south.

Belzer contends that this is bad news for Manotick. As soon as a rural property is re-designated from agricultural to rural general, it becomes a candidate for development.

“We already have developers who own large parcels of land between Barnsdale and Bankfield. They’re just waiting.”
Rideau-Goulbourn Coun. Scott Moffatt disagrees.

Land to the south of Barnsdale and west of the village of Manotick is protected because it is prime agricultural land, he said. The 124 hectares in question are of little agricultural value, and there’s a strong chance it would have been redesignated in the LEAR process anyway, said Moffatt.

What actually worries the councillor is that the OMB decided that developers don’t have to wait for the LEAR to be completed before applying for land to be re-zoned.

Moffatt adds that it will be at least five years before the urban boundary is reconsidered.

“I certainly don’t want people to think this will open the doors to the influx of development,” he said.

In a report to the Agricultural and Rural Affairs Committee, city staff said the OMB’s decision “may encourage other land owners to submit similar applications on the periphery of the Agricultural Resource Area, seeking the redesignation of their land and using this case as a precedent.”

The Barnsdale decision “may increase the likelihood that it be considered in any future expansion of the Barrhaven community,” said policy development and urban design manager John Smit.

Until the agricultural land review is completed, city staff will continue to recommend that similar applications are refused, he said.
Beltzner wants the city to develop a policy to protect the character of rural villages. He doesn’t blame developers. Developing land is their business, but the city has to state what it expects, he said.

He doesn’t share Moffatt’s confidence that development won’t creep toward Manotick because it’s prime agricultural land.
“We need to stop them or we won’t have a rural village anymore.”

jlaucius@ottawacitizen.com

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/urban-creep-manotick-fears-omb-ruling-could-cost-village-its-rural-character

MountainView

Oct 7, 2015, 2:34 AM

Boy, does there every need to be an interchange at Barnsdale / 416.

I know it is 'in the works' but it should really be a top priority for the MTO.

rocketphish

Nov 9, 2015, 6:36 PM

Developers reveal plans for new Manotick subdivision

By Megan DeLaire
Manotick News, Nov 06, 2015

http://media.zuza.com/a/5/a5c6ea45-bf8d-4d79-af23-9c016f3b5553/web_map___Content.jpg

A panel of developers, engineering consultants and city staff gave residents an overview of a proposed 16-lot subdivision develpoment targeted for Manotick at a meeting on Oct. 29 in the second last step toward gaining approval.

During the public meeting at the Manotick Arena and Community Centre, representatives of Cavanagh Construction detailed plans to develop land situated between Mud Creek to the east and First Line Road to the west by adding a westward extension of McManus Avenue, a public park, a pedestrian bridge over Mud Creek and a walking path beside it, and preparing the land for 16 new single family homes.

The site is bordered by land approved for the Maple Creek Estates subdivision to the south and west, and the planned extension of McManus Avenue is expected to connect the subdivisions.

Although the draft application was received by the city at the end of 2015, in 2006 the city approved a special design area concept plan for the area west of Mud Creek allowing for a lower density subdivision with larger lots.

“This is all part of a pre-planned development, an extension of what was already there,” Rideau-Goulbourn Coun. Scott Moffatt said of the area covered by the existing special design area concept plan. “All these homes are all planned in sequential order. This is all part of a larger 200-lot development and they’re all consistent with each other.”

With at least 30 metres of frontage for each lot, the proposed lots will be larger than those east of Mud Creek.

Three private wells have already been prepared at the site of the proposed subdivision, and if the draft plan is approved, development is expected to begin by summer, 2016. John Gerard Homes will construct the houses.

Reactions from residents at the meeting were mild. Some expressed concerns about whether well water supplies in the area would remain sustainable with the addition of 16 new homes, but were assured by developers that local water supplies would not be impacted by the development.

“I wasn’t expecting a lot of concern,” Moffatt said after the meeting. “Having it be an extension of what’s already there, there’s not a whole lot new for people to take in. With 16 lots it’s not a huge piece.”

In fact, Moffatt said that he expects residents will actually derive some benefit from the development’s proposed public park and walkway.

“The great part about this development versus the other ones is that this actually has the park space that is allotted to the area, which provides an amenity to the people who live on this side,” Moffatt said. “Which is great, to have that walking path in that naturalized area.”

http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/news-story/6085093-developers-reveal-plans-for-new-manotick-subdivision/

Cre47

Nov 11, 2015, 9:36 PM

Subdivision beside Tanger now starting to expand further north (as of September 2015)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.3014802,-75.9362349,3a,45.6y,338.4h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_XIVF_uYUcpLOvQdgqxvPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Cre47

Dec 6, 2015, 3:53 AM

This area is now under construction in the SW corner of Brian Coburn and Tenth Line. The shot was from August last years, but several streets or currently under development.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4467724,-75.4798096,3a,63.9y,259.99h,87.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8aIVaaVJs3US87mPILlo0g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Cre47

Dec 8, 2015, 11:23 PM

200+ units for Huntmar Road just south of the CTC. The speed limit from Maple Grove to north of Tanger was lowered from 70 to 50 lately

http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/mtgviewer.aspx?meetid=6477&doctype=agenda&itemid=342493

Also 600+ units for near Hazeldean and Terry Fox part of the Fernbank development.

http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/mtgviewer.aspx?meetid=6477&doctype=agenda&itemid=341523

MoreTrains

Dec 9, 2015, 12:21 AM

Wowie. 800+ units to be added in Kanata, what is this insanity! Isnt there enough vacant units already in Kanata?

waterloowarrior

Dec 9, 2015, 12:47 AM

There is another 750 unit subdivision (Richcraft) west of the 600 unit subdivision (Mattamy) and a 250 unit subdivision (Metric Homes) to the east :) IIRC Fernbank will be about 10,000 units total.

Cre47

Dec 9, 2015, 12:56 AM

waterloowarrior

Dec 9, 2015, 1:18 AM

We can be thankful, they have pretty much finish building up Bridlewood. There might be space for less than 100 units, but anything between Crownridge and old Richmond along Hope Side, is pretty much fill up now. Even the land where there used to be a farm area is been filled up. And I don't see much parcels of vacant land left elsewhere. Only thing older left on Hope Side is that single home right by the corner of Old Richmond.

Much of the vacant parcels at Eagleson/Terry Fox will likely be big box stores (something that Kanata definitely lacks of (sarcasm!)) or gas station or other businesses.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2758565,-75.8392366,3a,43.5y,29.41h,82.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNRDlBuKfld-2gsxl26OEVw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

here is a new proposal for the lands on the east side of Terry Fox - north of Fernbank. Mix of employment, residential, retail and commercial uses.

concept plan
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%20Referencing_Zoning%20Bylaw%20Amendment%20Application_Image%20Reference_D02-02-15-0066%20Concept%20Plan.PDF

planning rationale
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%20Referencing_Zoning%20Bylaw%20Amendment%20Application_Image%20Reference_D02-02-15-0066%20Planning%20Rationale.PDF
http://ottwatch.ca/devapps/D02-02-15-0066

Uhuniau

Dec 9, 2015, 4:20 PM

Wowie. 800+ units to be added in Kanata, what is this insanity! Isnt there enough vacant units already in Kanata?

Even if there is... that's not your problem or mine, is it?

Cre47

Jan 23, 2016, 6:48 PM

Southern end of Woodroffe which was transformed basically in residential street south (with speed limit dropped to 50 km/h from 70) of Chapman Mills after access was cut off to Prince of Wales.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2711972,-75.7159863,3a,75y,39.4h,82.23t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smAnWoPXuKiflva5JXHwE6g!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656

MoreTrains

Jan 25, 2016, 3:55 PM

Even if there is... that's not your problem or mine, is it?

Sure it is.

You and I both want better transit for inside the Greenbelt. Adding all the units means a drop in prices which means more people will move there and then Jimbo will likely try to fast forward the extension of the Confederation line to Kanata as has already been mentioned. Once again preventing any useful buildup of mass transit in the real city.

rocketphish

Feb 24, 2016, 12:19 AM

Committee OKs Potter's Key subdivision in Stittsville
Planning committee unanimously approves controversial Stittsville development, but with several amendments.

By: Lucy Scholey, Metro
Published on Tue Feb 23 2016

A controversial subdivision proposal for Stittsville passed the planning committee hurdle on Tuesday.

But faced with neighbours’ concerns about a traffic surge, speeding vehicles, construction hubbub and townhouses backing onto single-family homes, Potter’s Key developer Minto is bound to a few changes.

The planning committee unanimously approved the plan, but with these amendments:

A temporary construction access road will link directly to Hazeldean Road, preventing any heavy duty vehicles from cutting through the existing neighbourhood.
Only single-detached dwellings will be permitted to back onto existing single-family homes.

The plan still does not include a direct route to Hazeldean Road, which is an arterial route. But city staff say that once an adjacent southern parcel of land is developed, it will include a road that connects both properties to Hazeldean.

The next step is for council to vote on the plan.

http://www.metronews.ca/news/ottawa/2016/02/23/planning-committee-approves-stittsville-development.html

http://stittsvillecentral.ca/wp-content/uploads/potters-key-subdivision-plan.jpg
http://stittsvillecentral.ca/tag/potters-key/

Cre47

Feb 24, 2016, 1:10 AM

What an ugly street layout especially left side or should say north side since Hazeldean on the map is vertical while it is an east-west arterial.

Other updates

Abbott Street is also connected to the Fernbank neighborhood (been at least a couple of months I think). The connector road (Robert Grant) already has three roundabouts. Yet I haven't seen any indications OC Transpo will run a route inside that neighborhood soon (not even a express, say... an extension of route 62 or 66).

The Mahogany subdivision in Manotick seems to be moving at a glacially slow pace (which is a good thing), am I wrong here?.

Uhuniau

Feb 24, 2016, 7:23 PM

townhouses backing onto single-family homes,

How is this a problem?

Norman Bates

Feb 25, 2016, 11:15 AM

How is this a problem?

One word: Stittsville.

TransitZilla

Feb 25, 2016, 12:56 PM

Abbott Street is also connected to the Fernbank neighborhood (been at least a couple of months I think). The connector road (Robert Grant) already has three roundabouts. Yet I haven't seen any indications OC Transpo will run a route inside that neighborhood soon (not even a express, say... an extension of route 62 or 66).

There is apparently a shuttle being funded by the builders that runs to Kanata Centrum: http://shadqadri.com/blackstone-transit-community-shuttle-update/

Uhuniau

Feb 25, 2016, 6:57 PM

One word: Stittsville.

I fail to understand the answer.

What is so bad about one type of housing facing another type of housing?

When did we, as a culture, start to get traumatized by other people's windows?

Norman Bates

Feb 25, 2016, 9:21 PM

Since forever. Where were you for the past decade of paranoia, mistruths and cowardice on parliament hill?

It was the time of snitching on your neighbor. Before that we had Mike Harris and his common sense revolution where people had to work for their welfare and water testing was left to Homer Simpson. Meanwhile, the problem is always the other. Les autres, as the québécois say. Need I say any more.

If it's not language its culture. If it's not religion its skin colour. If it's not socioeconomic status it's multi-unit residential buildings.

Stittsville always pitched itself as the nicer, gentile, community. Right from the start of amberwood village where children were bylawed out of existence (I kid you not) to crossing bridge estates that gave people plantation-style mini-mansions on 70 foot lots.

The riffraff and hoipoloi were kept in fringewood and that trailer park. But not in Stittsville.

waterloowarrior

Jul 6, 2016, 2:46 AM

Big report on Kanata North Expansion area
http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/agdocs.aspx?doctype=agenda&itemid=351364

more development on Terry Fox
http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/agdocs.aspx?doctype=agenda&itemid=348368

Cre47

Jul 23, 2016, 4:08 AM

Street View has been updated, so should be post my updated Street View shots of newer development sometime (not sure this weekend or next one). They haven't gone through most of the side streets, though there should be some good ones from the collector or main arteries.

Cre47

Jul 24, 2016, 1:22 AM

Here we go...

First on the Quebec side

East end of Old Chelsea Village behind the Hendrick Farm beside A-5 (May 2016). I passed around there today and looks to be a pretty substantial neighborhood to be built there (unsure of how many homes.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.5030921,-75.804485,3a,51.6y,166.04h,84.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb31DDbtVlFYA7Q6lhYqUVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Gatineau

Just off Saint-Rene and Lorrain (just west of a trailer park area) (June 2016)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.498986,-75.6191884,3a,22.1y,346.24h,88.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEXur7RJmSl_1aQAlue82vA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Domaine Bowman in Buckingham (April 2016)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.498986,-75.6191884,3a,22.1y,346.24h,88.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEXur7RJmSl_1aQAlue82vA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Just off Georges & Hwy 50 in Masson-Angers (April 2016)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.5458307,-75.4312776,3a,41.4y,277.86h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siT1E46sSFU4KjWwv4UZ2Gg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Saint-Louis & La Cite (just a sea of red) (April 2016)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.474163,-75.6772529,3a,68.4y,355.95h,81.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shE3vMC0IAub65laPEN5BuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Le Plateau (starting to develop a bit on the last section of Le Plateau Blvd that opened

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4318966,-75.8057786,3a,89.7y,299.85h,83.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfR5UeQqUNgSmcTqnNI9g1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Just west of the former Aylmer race track. Was a controversial project, not a lot done yet as of now

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4014619,-75.8029457,3a,43.4y,175.96h,88.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdovGdgsD3O7HGYpCvtsuMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

At the former track itself

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4026292,-75.7996606,3a,75y,165.76h,86.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1st-0q0xzXFJ8EBrf_yDy2hw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dt-0q0xzXFJ8EBrf_yDy2hw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.033855%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

eternallyme

Jul 24, 2016, 1:40 AM

New communities have been quite slow to develop lately, at least in the immediate Ottawa area, it seems new home demand is quite modest right now.

Cre47

Jul 24, 2016, 1:46 AM

Now in Ottawa

Old Montreal Road east of Trim as well as a shot from the 174

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4945036,-75.4677244,3a,43y,302.82h,87.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRYcbzfvJmc_Y8Wqk8_o_XQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRYcbzfvJmc_Y8Wqk8_o_XQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D107.28671%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4984816,-75.4778222,3a,23.3y,109.09h,87.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seMHMCTPuxtxYfoy1YbSYUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Near Navan & Page/Renaud

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4294034,-75.5113292,3a,39.1y,231.68h,92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW0ue7JURbEhx7zJiyPa6eQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Just further north peeking through the trees

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4355714,-75.520687,3a,31.1y,71.5h,88.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-CroyC84jyeQslrZZzSz2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Mer Bleue & Brian Coburn (turn around and you see that Brian Coburn Blvd is been extended westward towards probably the Page/Renaud/Navan Road area)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.445897,-75.4986984,3a,75y,82.15h,84.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVptUE86RTL-EnQiYXipgaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Southwest side of Tenth Line and Brian Coburn (at Southfield Way) - lots of new development there

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4482759,-75.4805941,3a,49.7y,197.4h,90.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOfddZT8NcgoGd-wjw_8ykg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Bank Street and the Southeast corner of Findlay Creek

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.3146203,-75.5903563,3a,75.2y,283.75h,90.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZC6Q42HEtc1vkRlXmn_z5Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

River Road south of Earl Armstrong

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2629247,-75.7004308,3a,16.2y,72.15h,87.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swQPFdW5elEQTten20ZmX9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Eastward on Earl Armstrong

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2700084,-75.6947782,3a,22y,96.67h,89.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sizeurvJxmI83Ap-P_hALnw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

In Manotick - the glacially slow going Minto Mahogany Project
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2174429,-75.6748782,3a,75y,165.14h,86.79t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZcyK97RL8WEa1HA1ztUctQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DZcyK97RL8WEa1HA1ztUctQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D46.776619%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

A few shots of Half Moon Bay

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2468135,-75.7379226,3a,75y,12.54h,83.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s04N4MX2_GedYir7Cg08N3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2430833,-75.7405583,3a,75y,60.72h,85.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKl6NbhOgSXtIBY-cuUtSIg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKl6NbhOgSXtIBY-cuUtSIg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D101.86745%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2483077,-75.7353419,3a,75y,53.13h,86.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSrP1ZgpyK5MCSFg--732Mg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2457012,-75.7399513,3a,81.4y,312.64h,86.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sW7oP6pW_DCtizLIKTMoKsA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DW7oP6pW_DCtizLIKTMoKsA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D60.104511%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2483069,-75.7479565,3a,16.7y,120.25h,89.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srfaq_qX868qvKzDnWZxzZQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This one is near Barnsdale Road on Greenbank

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2371427,-75.7265261,3a,67.5y,294.93h,90.25t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1seM6aJc5AShoyEh1xmH8HlA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DeM6aJc5AShoyEh1xmH8HlA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D87.974442%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

Longfields and Chapman Mills (this was back in October) - the speed limit has since dropped to 60

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2688593,-75.7348941,3a,75y,40.16h,88.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbkyREhlDPtd2_mFjirXtNQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

On the other side of the road

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2677036,-75.7344525,3a,49.3y,275.03h,91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgZpTNJKF6RMYdIIIdsQG7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Strandherd from Jockvale to Kennevale

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2721099,-75.7846195,3a,75y,70.29h,80.6t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spBZQIa9Miuj2sV1ktLqAvA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DpBZQIa9Miuj2sV1ktLqAvA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D30.210463%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2648504,-75.7778015,3a,69.9y,224.15h,80.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTkbZnR8vlWZtFClyo5WBqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Near Longfields Station and further east on Longfields (for some reason the speed limit on the second shot is still at 60)

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2847291,-75.74406,3a,51.3y,248.46h,90.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suYCT9xPIgf4u-jEGNmMRaQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2893172,-75.7321029,3a,45.3y,90.68h,84.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9LL558SE7W_HtqyZi63n7g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Old Richmond Road in Bridlewood

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2796598,-75.8365389,3a,75y,215.73h,84.68t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxO_9oadPgdM55KjmoBvv-Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DxO_9oadPgdM55KjmoBvv-Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D60.0273%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

Inside the newer section of Bridlewood off Hope Side

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2772015,-75.8416326,3a,75y,233.82h,82.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s33NYDsuWihkStSnmjEmEpw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D33NYDsuWihkStSnmjEmEpw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D163.50308%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

Eagleson at Terry Fox

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2711836,-75.8586365,3a,75y,68.64h,83.7t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1slAGMNA7Ec84lQONwafYC0w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DlAGMNA7Ec84lQONwafYC0w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D51.742622%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

Terry Fox just south of Hazeldean and the incredible fast growth there

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.283796,-75.884204,3a,25.9y,187.06h,89.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfaFi0WsVZERWlkgS766LPw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DfaFi0WsVZERWlkgS766LPw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D53.502605%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

As seen also from Hazeldean Road

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2869613,-75.9058526,3a,23y,118.37h,88.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO0sAs5Ag2gyoBNaBJ0NdIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Just southwest of CTC

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2909513,-75.922979,3a,64.6y,201.16h,85.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRQybuzD2Nxn-pd86dXuSDQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRQybuzD2Nxn-pd86dXuSDQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D28.086309%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

Maple Grove heading towards Stittsville

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.2843934,-75.9274421,3a,75y,144.49h,85.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1soUrj2Pl5NkIjVECDdKR-GA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DoUrj2Pl5NkIjVECDdKR-GA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D262.07169%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

At the Campeau dead end west of Terry Fox

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.3059359,-75.9226597,3a,15y,259.9h,89.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1soFpOsyNmjlUSaQH-uIHQ0w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DoFpOsyNmjlUSaQH-uIHQ0w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D332.98007%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

North of Terry Fox and Richardson including one shot from in the community

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.3182139,-75.945241,3a,39.3y,89.19h,88.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRGRMdRa-9iYFSHMXWFlfJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.3188617,-75.9406689,3a,89.5y,82.25h,77.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHqQrPK8l81UaBER83ovafw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DHqQrPK8l81UaBER83ovafw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D358.89621%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

rocketphish

Nov 2, 2016, 5:15 PM

Cemetery land sale in south Ottawa ignites worries in Findlay Creek
Stakeholders to gauge concerns at consultation meeting.

By: Erin McCracken, Metroland Media
Published on Wed Nov 02 2016

A number of Findlay Creek residents are hopeful an area developer will meet them halfway as it prepares to build a new subdivision that will back onto their homes.

“There has to be bungalows built against our bungalows, otherwise it’s too much,” said Doug Brousseau, who lives on Bulrush Crescent, which will back onto a 150-home Tartan neighbourhood currently working its way through the city application process. “We don’t want a two-storey house in our backyard.”

Yvon and Paulette Landry’s view from their home won’t be fully impacted, since the plans call for new homes behind the house attached to theirs on the west side. Still, when they were shopping for their new Bulrush Crescent house in 2009, they claim Tamarack reps assured them the cemetery lands would remain vacant. The couple then sought a similar promise from a Hope Cemetery official.

“He said there will never be buildings there, so we made our decision (based) on the (promises of the) cemetery director and on Tamarack,” said Paulette.

“We wanted somewhere where we could sit in our backyards and have peace and quiet,” she said, following a Findlay Creek Community Association development-themed meeting at the Fred Barrett Arena on Oct. 26. “We wanted to put (in) a gazebo, feel like we were at the cottage, but still feel like we were in town.”

Brousseau also asked Tamarack reps back when he was purchasing his home about eight years ago and said he received similar promises. He was largely attracted to the area because of the open green space.

“We went away with the absolute conviction that there would never be houses in a cemetery,” he said.

The neighbours are part of a group that recently wrote a joint letter to the city to express their concerns.

“We understand the process, but the least they can do is ensure that they don’t build two-storey houses against our bungalows,” said Brousseau.

Benoît Bariteau, director of cemeteries with the Catholic Archdiocese of Ottawa, which owns and operates Hope Cemetery, said as far as he is aware no promises had been made at that time, but that there were no plans to sell in 2009.

Archdiocese officials have been in regular talks with area developers for years because of nearby advancing subdivision construction. The decision to sell the section was made because “if we would have kept it, (it) would be used in maybe 150 years from now,” Bariteau said.

“Cemetery services have changed,” he added.

In terms of demand, when the cemetery first opened after farmland was bought in the 1950s and 1960s, cremations made up 10 per cent of requests. Now cremation requests have climbed to 75 per cent, far surpassing casket burials.

As well, knowing that Tartan’s subdivision plans to the north include space for an elementary school, archdiocese officials wanted to help make the area a walkable community for schoolchildren, said Bariteau, adding that Hope’s surplus land could help make that happen since it backs onto what will become the extension of Kelly Farm Drive.

It will serve as a connector between the established Findlay Creek Village to the south and the larger subdivision to the north, said Dufresne, adding the development will also trigger the continuation of Kelly Farm Drive, north of White Alder Avenue, to Leitrim Road, where there will be a signalized intersection.

The sale was “a studied decision” that also took into account the quality of the terrain, which is part wetland, Briteau said. While it would have been usable, it would have required significant resources such as drainage and fill, he added.

When asked if there is potential to construct low-rise homes to pair the house heights in the established section, Pierre Dufresne, Tartan’s vice-president of land development, said public input will be sought during a public consultation meeting in late November.

“Right now we’re going through the approvals process and we’re in the public comment period really,” he said following the meeting. “No decisions will be made until after we get through the process, have all the concerns and comments, and start to move forward.”

Tartan is planning to build about 150 homes on 6.1 hectares of land purchased from the cemetery, which is located at 4660 Bank St. and owned by the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Ottawa.

Construction of the mostly single-family homes, townhouse blocks and possibly some semi-detached houses is slated to begin in 2018, said Dufresne.

Pending approval, the cemetery parcel will be developed at the same time a 900-unit subdivision of single-family dwellings and townhomes is built up on the north side along Leitrim Road, west of Bank Street. Construction is expected to begin in 2018 and continue for eight to 10 years, Dufresne said.

According to the City of Ottawa’s website, Tartan’s plan call for about 61 single-family homes, 89 townhouses and three new streets.

Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Michael Qaqish said it can be upsetting for home buyers when they are promised specific amenities only to find out later that change is coming.

“Plans do change,” he said at the close to the meeting. “I understand it’s frustrating for residents.

“They were promised by the developer: ‘You’re going to back onto a quiet piece of land or ravine or cemetery' and then they have a change of heart and they go and do it,” Qaqish said. “They’re allowed to do it under the Planning Act. Now, does that mean I’m a big supporter or not?”

While he doesn’t sit on the city’s planning committee, he said he won’t support the application if he has issues with the project. That’s where the upcoming consultation meeting comes in. The date will likely be scheduled for late November, but had not yet been finalized before press time.

“I want to listen to the arguments being made on both sides,” Qaqish said.

As for the future of Hope Cemetery, Bariteau said while he can’t promise another chunk of cemetery land won’t be sold off, “the chances are very slim” that more will be parcelled off.

“The bread and butter of any cemetery is the land,” he said. “We cannot build a mausoleum out on the street.”

http://www.metronews.ca/news/ottawa/2016/11/02/cemetery-land-sale-ignites-worries-in-findlay-creek.html

kwoldtimer

Nov 2, 2016, 5:59 PM

I wonder if home buyers will ever come to understand that (alleged) verbal representations about future development are not worth the paper they're not written on?

rocketphish

Nov 2, 2016, 10:32 PM

Cemetery land sale in south Ottawa ignites worries in Findlay Creek
Stakeholders to gauge concerns at consultation meeting.

By: Erin McCracken, Metroland Media
Published on Wed Nov 02 2016

“There has to be bungalows built against our bungalows, otherwise it’s too much,” said Doug Brousseau, who lives on Bulrush Crescent, which will back onto a 150-home Tartan neighbourhood currently working its way through the city application process. “We don’t want a two-storey house in our backyard.”

Wow.

lrt's friend

Nov 2, 2016, 10:49 PM

I know somebody who will be directly impacted by this. It is too bad that they bought their house based on backing onto a cemetery and now this is changed. I am sure they must have paid a premium for this.

waterloowarrior

Nov 3, 2016, 2:35 AM

Here is the Hope Cemetary subdivision plan - CDP showed it as Institutional, so it wasn't just the verbal assurances people might have considered. At the end of the day though, there is always a risk plans could change and the only way to be assured nothing will happen behind you is to buy the land yourself :/
http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%20Referencing_Subdivision_Image%20Reference_september%202016%20-%20D07-16-16-0015%20-%20plan%20of%20subdivision.PDF

http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__0A7M7F

not sure if this one was posted earlier - Remer Lands at the the south end of Findlay Creek... 806 units. DCR Phoenix,Richcraft and EQ Homes.

http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__0WTDBL

Uhuniau

Nov 3, 2016, 5:57 PM

One could also stop worrying about the use of the land changing. After all, if you live in a bungalow on a land, that land at some point in the past changed from not having a bungalow on it to having a bungalow on it.

Cre47

Nov 6, 2016, 12:40 AM

East side of Mer Bleue at Renaud well south of Brian Coburn. Looks like something brand new as nothing shown on Google Maps yet although development coming from Tenth Line is already about 1/3 between Tenth Line and Mer Bleue on the south side of Brian Coburn. Number of units not known

http://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/cache/2/o30r5tzwkvngikaglrhjpw23/40467711052016083052497.PDF

Seems that in Orleans the Mer Bleue/Brian Coburn/Renaud area is currently where the bulk of the development is. East of Tenth Line to Trim seems not a whole lot have been built for a couple of years

daud

Nov 8, 2016, 3:09 PM

Housing Starts October:

https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/odpub/esub/64695/64695_2016_M11.pdf

Ottawa-Gatineau showing some very strong numbers. Up 16% YTD but 73% for October-October comparison.

Also seems to have been a big multiple start in Gatineau this month-not sure what project that is.

Acajack

Nov 8, 2016, 4:45 PM

rocketphish

Nov 29, 2016, 6:10 PM

Findlay Creekers suggest measures to offset impact of new subdivision
Questions raised over why homes built before roads widened

By Erin McCracken, Ottawa South News
Nov 28, 2016

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Findlay Creekers whose homes back onto cemetery lands that will one day be transformed into a residential subdivision have no shortage of ideas to minimize their loss of privacy.

“We're losing all that and we're going to have a bunch of houses in our backyard,” said Doug Brousseau, who lives on Bulrush Crescent, one of two affected streets at the north end of the community.

“My biggest concern ... is having a two-storey house in my backyard where I used to have green space and coyotes and turkeys and deer. We don't want people two-storeys up looking into our houses there and we were never told they would be there.”

Homeowners recently sounded the alarm after learning the Catholic Archdiocese of Ottawa sold a vacant parcel of Hope Cemetery land to developer Tartan. The proposal currently working its way through the city approval process calls for the transformation of six hectares into 150 housing units, including 60 detached single-family homes and 90 townhomes.

“We're not going to stop it. We all know that. The houses are going to be built,” Brousseau said. “We'd just like consideration (for) the mix of housing. Single-family homes is fine, but they should be bungalows against bungalows.”

Melissa Côté, Tartan land use planner, said residents’ concerns have been heard.

“And we are floating around ideas, things that we can do to kind of alleviate those concerns,” she told about 25 homeowners at a public consultation meeting at the Fred Barrett Arena on Nov. 23.

Building mirror-image bungalows, putting in a buffer block and berm, planting tall trees close together, as well as increasing the distance between new homes and the existing property line are the preferred options pitched by those living on Bulrush and Mangrove crescents at the north end of Findlay Creek.

“Some of those options are viable,” Côté said. “Some, I think, could be a little more challenging.”

While the future homes backing onto existing single-family bungalow townhomes will be single-family dwellings, whether bungalows can be built will have to be discussed with Tartan and Tamarack builders, she said.

“We are sensitive to this issue,” added Pierre Dufresne, vice-president of land development at Tartan.

Randy Ray, who lives on Bulrush, urged Tartan reps to consider homeowners as well as the future loss of green space and wild animals.

He also pressed Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Michael Qaqish for an opinion on the project and was told Findlay Creek is one of many suburban communities in Ottawa that is experiencing fast-paced growth.

“The reality is we can say no to this at committee and council and (the developer) can appeal it at the (Ontario Municipal Board) and then we'd be spending our dollars on lawyers,” Qaqish said, adding that while he doesn't like giving up green space, Findlay Creek is a suburban community seeing significant housing construction.

The councillor then turned to Dufresne and asked whether he can commit to building bungalows behind about a dozen pre-existing single-storey homes.

Input from the community will be collected and options will be presented to the homebuilders, Dufresne said.

Ray, who hopes 12-foot trees spaced close together can be planted, asked how realistic it would be to put in a tree line in back of affected homes.

“We obviously didn't plant in our backyards because no one was ever going to live behind us,” he said. “So now we've got nothing – no trees, nothing.”

A landscape architect will have to be consulted, but Côté said “I think doing enhanced plantings would be a viable option.”

BUILDING BACKWARDS

The new neighbourhood would be built at the same time as a 900-home subdivision proposed for a large swath of undeveloped land southwest of Bank Street and Leitrim Road. As part of the redevelopment, Kelly Farm Drive would be extended from White Alder Avenue to Leitrim Road, where a traffic signal will be installed.

Phase one of the new neighbourhood to the west of Hope Cemetery, which will begin with the addition of sewers, utilities and a stormwater pond, would get underway in the fall of 2017 or early 2018.

“I expect that you will be using that road some time in 2018,” Côté said.

The discussion also saw the return of concerns over traffic headaches on Bank Street and Leitrim and Albion roads.

“It's great that you're building roads within the complex, but we need the roads outside the complex built up,” said Barbara D’Amico, representing the Findlay Creek Community Association. “We're completely surrounded by one-lane roads.”

Dufresne said once a transportation study is complete, area developers will discuss how to move forward.

One resident suggested it doesn’t make sense to build residential neighbourhoods first before much-needed road infrastructure and other services.

“I'll start off by saying you're absolutely right,” Dufresne said. “It would be wonderful to have the infrastructure in the ground, the parks built, the community centre built ... (but) it would be unachievable financially.”

Development charges collected from new developments help fund city roads, which are expensive, and the reason they can't be built at once.

“It's really just a cash-flow issue with the city,” Dufresne said, adding “it's financially prohibitive for us to be able to come out to a site and say we're going to build roads like that.”

Qaqish agreed it is a backwards process, but said he has met with area developers to discuss whether they can pay to widen Bank Street in the short term and be paid back later by the city. No promises have yet been given.

The four developers working in Findlay Creek don't want to wait, and plan to look for solutions to alleviate congestion, said Dufresne.

“We can't just go out and build it because it's a $20- to $22-million project,” he said. “And we're as interested as anybody else in fixing it because we're going to be here for another 10 years and we have to sell houses.”

Erin McCracken is a reporter/photographer with Metroland Media’s Ottawa South News. She can be reached at erin.mccracken@metroland.com.

http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/news-story/6990479-findlay-creekers-suggest-measures-to-offset-impact-of-new-subdivision/

Proof Sheet

Nov 29, 2016, 6:44 PM

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“My biggest concern ... is having a two-storey house in my backyard where I used to have green space and coyotes and turkeys and deer. We don't want people two-storeys up looking into our houses there and we were never told they would be there.”

“We're not going to stop it. We all know that. The houses are going to be built,” Brousseau said. “We'd just like consideration (for) the mix of housing. Single-family homes is fine, but they should be bungalows against bungalows.”

You know in a parallel universe I could have sworn that I've come to a public meeting like this...or are they all just like this.

I think this is the kind of neighbourhood that Uhaniau would like :notacrook::notacrook:

Findlay Creek. Come for the mandated setbacks, stay for the promise that only bungalows will back up against ident-a-kit bungalows and where greige siding is not just a wish, it's mandated.

Uhuniau

Nov 29, 2016, 9:45 PM

Findlay Creekers suggest measures to offset impact of new subdivision
Questions raised over why homes built before roads widened

By Erin McCracken, Ottawa South News
Nov 28, 2016

Findlay Creekers whose homes back onto cemetery lands that will one day be transformed into a residential subdivision have no shortage of ideas to minimize their loss of privacy.

“We're losing all that and we're going to have a bunch of houses in our backyard,” said Doug Brousseau, who lives on Bulrush Crescent, one of two affected streets at the north end of the community.

“My biggest concern ... is having a two-storey house in my backyard where I used to have green space and coyotes and turkeys and deer. We don't want people two-storeys up looking into our houses there and we were never told they would be there.”

My unprintable response to that concern is unprintable.

My printable response is: what was on your property before it was a house?

kwoldtimer

Nov 29, 2016, 9:56 PM

You know in a parallel universe I could have sworn that I've come to a public meeting like this...or are they all just like this.

I think this is the kind of neighbourhood that Uhaniau would like :notacrook::notacrook:

Findlay Creek. Come for the mandated setbacks, stay for the promise that only bungalows will back up against ident-a-kit bungalows and where greige siding is not just a wish, it's mandated.

I'm no expert, but I imagine that the chance of these new homes being bungalows is about the square root of b*gger all. Maybe they're just positioning themselves now in hopes of discouraging three storey townhouses.

Proof Sheet

Nov 29, 2016, 10:08 PM

My unprintable response to that concern is unprintable.

My printable response is: what was on your property before it was a house?

The self-awareness that most people have on these things is pretty low. Very few realize that the home that they live in that is located in a suburban setting likely was the former site of a farm or woodlot with deer, wild turkeys etc. It is OK for them to have their piece of paradise but once they are in then new development has to stop. Those same people don't cause traffic, they are held up by other peoples traffic generation.

lrt's friend

Nov 29, 2016, 11:44 PM

I know this area very well. When Findlay Creek was first starting to be developed in 2003, their was a mass migration of groundhogs. I saw this happening when they moved to neighbouring properties in great densities. I expect this must be typical when farmland is first subdivided and bulldozed. Beyond this, it is deer and coyotes that are forced out and song birds that prefer open fields such as Meadowlarks and Bobolinks.

Uhuniau

Nov 30, 2016, 3:41 AM

Requin

Nov 30, 2016, 12:13 PM

(Clutches pearls)

Won't someone think of the groundhogs?!!?

:D

LOL! :haha:

canabiz

Dec 6, 2016, 11:33 AM

It looks like Glenview Homes is coming to the 'Haven, right behind my place actually. They already have a presence in Kanata in their Monahan Landing community

http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%20Referencing_Subdivision_Image%20Reference_Planning%20Rationale%20D07-16-16-0018.PDF

MountainView

Dec 7, 2016, 8:05 PM

A 416 interchange at Cambrian or Barnsdale would be nice. Unsure what would be better though.

waterloowarrior

Dec 23, 2016, 6:19 AM

http://www.minto.com/ottawa/new-homes/Harmony/main.html

http://www.minto.com/slideshows/651/hero.png

http://www.minto.com/img/templates/51/map_harmony.png

Proof Sheet

Jan 19, 2017, 12:47 PM

(Clutches pearls)

Won't someone think of the groundhogs?!!?

:D

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/proposed-subdivision-ticks-off-manotick-residents-1.3941683

Won't somebody think of the 'forever home' lifestyle?

Acajack

Jan 19, 2017, 2:20 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/proposed-subdivision-ticks-off-manotick-residents-1.3941683

Won't somebody think of the 'forever home' lifestyle?

It's the classic "pull up the drawbridge now that I'm in" argument.

I looked up what these people describe as a "village setting" and it's not a village at all. It's classic 1970s suburbia.

I'd be a bit more sympathetic if the area truly resembled a heritage village like Merrickville or something, but it's not that at all.

So hurry, everyone. To the drawbridge!

Uhuniau

Jan 19, 2017, 4:28 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/proposed-subdivision-ticks-off-manotick-residents-1.3941683

Won't somebody think of the 'forever home' lifestyle?

"Forever home".... like that cemetery?

waterloowarrior

Jan 19, 2017, 10:27 PM

The ship has already sailed. This is across the street from a future phase of Minto's Mahogany community. The site is designated as medium density in the secondary plan and the policies mandate densities of 12-20 units per gross hectare and only up to 50% of the units can be single family.

SkeggsEggs

Jun 28, 2017, 4:14 PM

Next phase of the Blackstone community in Kanata is being proposed by Mattamy Homes:

https://shadqadri.com/2017/06/23/5482/

waterloowarrior

Aug 9, 2017, 1:04 AM

http://eqhomes.ca/pathways/images/pathways-map.jpg

http://eqhomes.ca/pathways/

http://eqhomes.ca/riverwalk/images/manotick-slide4.jpg
http://eqhomes.ca/riverwalk/

rocketphish

Aug 23, 2017, 4:49 PM

OMG... added density in Kanata! ;)

Developer gets go-ahead for increased density for Kanata housing community
Despite significant pushback from residents, planning committee approves lifting density cap.

By: Kieran Delamont, Metro
Published on Tue Aug 22 2017

http://www.metronews.ca/content/dam/thestar/2017/08/22/developer-gets-go-ahead-for-increased-density-for-kanata-housing-community/story-307843-346902-image-rendered.jpg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpg

Despite the opposition of residents as well as local Coun. Marianne Wilkinson, the city’s planning committee approved an amendment that will allow developers to increase the density of a housing community by up to 41 per cent.

The lot under development at 124 Battersea Cr. currently has two buildings, comprising 28 units. A third 79-unit building is currently under construction. Rather than build several smaller buildings, as first planned, the developer is asking for permission to build a second 79-unit building.

Brigil was asking the committee to lift a density cap that dates to 2006, when issues with the sewer system in the area led to a cap on the density permitted by zoning. Those servicing issues have been resolved, and the owners of the site argued that the density cap is thus irrelevant.

But for residents, the issue is playing out as a developer seeking to impose a different vision for the community than what they envisioned.

“They are making so many changes, that what I bought is not what I bought anymore,” said Janie Poirier, who lives in one of the existing smaller buildings. “I bought into a community that was low, that was calm, that was nice and green. And that’s not what I’m getting right now.”

Coun. Wilkinson says that the site plan has not yet been approved, and that she hopes to work with the developers to try to find compromise. “For downtown Ottawa, that may work,” she said following the committee meeting. “But in this area, we really try to build with nature.”

http://www.metronews.ca/news/ottawa/2017/08/22/developer-gets-go-ahead-for-increased-density-for-kanata-housing-community.html

rocketphish

Aug 23, 2017, 5:02 PM

:previous:

Development application:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__0FUNJS

rocketphish

Sep 12, 2017, 5:08 PM

City poised to open 72 acres of Urbandale’s Leitrim land for development

By: OBJ staff
Published: Sep 7, 2017 1:20pm EDT

The community of Leitrim in south Ottawa could see more than 500 new homes in the coming years if city councillors accept the advice of municipal staff and open a large swath of land off Bank Street to development.

Ottawa homebuilder Urbandale is seeking an official plan amendment that would allow it to build on the currently undeveloped property, known as the Kellam Lands at 4789 Bank St., south of Findlay Creek Drive and a proposed Claridge subdivision.

http://www.obj.ca/sites/default/files/inline-images/Screenshot%202017-09-07%20at%2013.08.29.png

A concept plan referenced in a city report says Urbandale envisions constructing about 562 homes, including 254 single-detached houses, 254 multiple units and 54 apartments.

Mixed-use nodes – such as low-rise apartments above ground-floor commercial units – would be constructed along the east side of Bank Street in a “compact format that is easily accessible from the immediate neighbourhood and surrounding community.”

Before any construction could begin, the land needs to be designated part of Ottawa’s “general urban area” in the city’s official plan. It’s currently considered an “urban expansion study area.”

Councillors on the city’s planning committee will consider the request next Tuesday, Sept. 12.

City staff argue that the proposal “reflects planned growth in the city” and say it “represents a natural extension of the adjacent Leitrim community.”

During a community consultation, several residents raised concerns about the current traffic constraints on Bank Street. City staff responded that Bank Street is scheduled to be widened to four lanes from Leitrim Road to south of Blais Road sometime between 2020 and 2025.

http://www.obj.ca/index.php/article/city-poised-open-72-acres-urbandales-leitrim-land-development

OTSkyline

Sep 12, 2017, 7:37 PM

TransitZilla

Sep 18, 2017, 2:22 PM

Looking through Google Maps, isn't Leitrim (and this proposed development) inside the Greenbelt?

How did these developments come to be if so? I thought it was a big "no-no" to ever build anything in the Greenbelt?

No, none of these were ever in the Greenbelt. Historically the south edge of the Greenbelt was Leitrim Rd.

When Findlay Creek was developed there was a section of land protected from development because it is a provincially significant wetland (Leitrim Wetland). The NCC now shows the Leitrim Wetland as part of the Greenbelt in their maps although it is owned by the South Nation Conservation, not the NCC.

TransitZilla

Sep 18, 2017, 2:23 PM

Urbandale is now advertising the new Leitrim development as "Cowan's Grove"

http://urbandaleconstruction.com/communities/cowans-grove

McC

Sep 18, 2017, 2:27 PM

This old man read that as "Gowan's Cove"
http://photos.mp3va.com/220/31/98/089831.jpg

Uhuniau

Sep 18, 2017, 7:23 PM

This old man read that as "Gowan's Cove"
http://photos.mp3va.com/220/31/98/089831.jpg

This oldster read it is "Yet Another Tacky Faux-Authentic Development Name".

phil235

Sep 18, 2017, 7:52 PM

This old man read that as "Gowan's Cove"
http://photos.mp3va.com/220/31/98/089831.jpg

I would live in Gowan's Cove.

BlackRedGold

Sep 18, 2017, 8:20 PM

I would live in Gowan's Cove.

You're a Strange Animal.

roger1818

Sep 18, 2017, 8:37 PM

I would live in Gowan's Cove.

As would All the Lovers in the World.

You're a Strange Animal.

But does he have A Criminal Mind?

:P

phil235

Sep 19, 2017, 1:39 PM

But does he have A Criminal Mind?

:P

It's all I've ever known.

lrt's friend

Sep 19, 2017, 4:42 PM

I know this was discussed before somewhere but I am not sure where. A crane was erected over the weekend for the replacement development on Heron Road at Heron Gate. This project is going ahead.

Uhuniau

Sep 19, 2017, 8:12 PM

If I end up with 80s CanCon earworms, I am not responsible for my actions!

rocketphish

Oct 24, 2017, 11:43 AM

Taxpayers on the hook for an extra $10M to help developers build homes in Kanata
Public has never been explicitly alerted to growing costs of two west-end projects

By Laura Osman , CBC News
Posted: Oct 24, 2017 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Oct 24, 2017 5:00 AM ET

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4367663.1508783212!/fileImage/httpImage/image.PNG_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/carp-river-restoration-and-kanata-west-pump-station.PNG

Taxpayers are on the hook for $10 million more than planned after the cost for two projects to help developers build homes in the city's west end has shot up in the last decade.

The escalating price tags for the Kanata West sewage pumping station and the Carp River restoration — projects shared between the city and local developers — have received little to no public scrutiny, despite overshooting their original budgets by millions.

In the case of the pumping station, the cost of the project has ballooned from an estimated $15.95 million in 2012 to $61 million in 2017. The city's share of that project is about 10 per cent, and has grown to $6 million from $1.6 million.

When the Carp River restoration project was approved in 2006, the city's share was $1.5 million. Since then the taxpayer contribution has grown to $6.4 million, even as many public benefits have been scaled back.

Both projects are vital if developers hope to continue building homes in the area.

The pumping station will increase the sewage capacity of the area, allowing the system to accommodate more homes. The Carp River restoration will reduce flooding and allow developers to build closer to the river.

In fact, at Tuesday's planning committee, councillors will vote on a rezoning application for a new 945-unit Richcraft subdivision on Maple Grove Road that would not be possible without the pumping station and the river restoration.

And yet, city staff and city council have not alerted the public to the cost increases or design changes in a report to council or committee.

Technically, council did approved the annually expanding costs, but only as part of a 200-page budget.

Each project appears as a single line item in the dense financial document, and in an annual list of infrastructure projects. Staff has not explicitly presented the project increases to committee, where the cost escalations would be more visible to members of the public.

When asked why the public was never alerted to these projects, Stittsville Coun. Shad Qadri said the public was invited to take part in the budget process.

"The budget process was brought to the public's attention, and that's where it was discussed," said Qadri.

Qadri said all Kanata and Stittsville councillors have been kept up to date on the costs of the projects, and he was satisfied with the way staff answered his questions.

Kanata North Coun. Wilkinson said councillors have done their best to keep citizens abreast of the costs and share reports with the public when they can.

Coun. Allan Hubley, of Kanata South, was not available for an interview over a three-day period.

In a 2012 consultant report, the estimated cost of the pump station for Kanata West was $15.95 million. By 2013, the cost rose to $30 million.

Every year, there would be single line item in the city's capital budget dedicated to the pumping station, and every year the cost would grow — a lot.

In 2014 council approved an additional $9 million for the project. The next year council approved another $9 million for the project, and another $7 million the year after that. The project budget has now reached $61 million.

The pump station is under construction directly next to the Carp River on the border between Kanata and Stittsville.

City staff declined an interview request. In an emailed statement, Alain Gonthier, director of infrastructure services, said no geotechnical study had been done to support the initial cost estimates, which later surged to accommodate for poor soil conditions.

Kanata soil is notoriously soft and difficult to build on, especially along the river — a fact that has been well known since amalgamation, said Wilkinson.

Other reasons for the increased cost include changes to city standards and industry best practices.

Building along the Carp River has also been difficult in the past because much of the land is in a floodplain. But all that is supposed to change thanks to the Carp River restoration project.

The project involves narrowing the river, which in turn helps keeps the water moving and prevents sediment from building up. The narrowing also prevents floods and leaves more land for developers to build on.

The restoration project was approved by council in 2006. At the time the project included walking paths, fish habitats and pedestrian bridges.

A group of landowners agreed to pay 70 per cent of the cost while the city paid the remaining 30 per cent. The city's initial contribution was estimated at $1.5 million.

But because the city also happens to own land in the area, it is also paying part of the landowner's costs as well. It's not clear how much that contribution is worth.

The project, which is being led by the landowners, quickly began to rack up costs.

In 2014, the land owners hired a consultant who recommended axing a number of elements from the proposal, including two pedestrian bridges, turning several habitat ponds into wet meadows, using more rock along the river bed and planting less vegetation.

The decision was also made not to raise pedestrian walkways as promised, shaving $3 million off the project, but also making the pathways more likely to flood.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/kanata-west-pump-station-carp-river-restoration-development-1.4367641

roger1818

Oct 30, 2017, 7:24 PM

From https://shadqadri.com/2017/10/27/johnwoods-street-closure-for-multi-use-pathway-from-maple-grove-to-rosehill-avenue/

Johnwoods Street Closure for Multi-Use Pathway from Maple Grove to Rosehill Avenue
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ON OCTOBER 27, 2017 BY SHADQADRIIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WEEKLY COLUMN

https://shadqadri.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/johnwoods-linear-park-design1.jpg?w=800 (https://shadqadri.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/johnwoods-linear-park-design1.jpg)

Starting on Wednesday, November 15, 2017, Johnwoods Street will be permanently closed to vehicular traffic from Maple Grove Road to Rosehill Avenue and will be rebuilt as a multi-use pathway for pedestrians and cyclists.

This work will add a safe and accessible recreational amenity, more greenspace and direct connections for pedestrians and cyclists in your community. The pathway will also enhance privacy and livability for nearby residents by reducing vehicle traffic noise and headlight glare.

For more information on this project, including history regarding the decision I encourage residents to please review the documents available on my website (https://shadqadri.com/johnwoods-closure/).

Uhuniau

Oct 30, 2017, 7:36 PM

So they are taking a suburban street layout, and making it even more suburban?

roger1818

Oct 30, 2017, 7:48 PM

So they are taking a suburban street layout, and making it even more suburban?

LOL. The objective is to reduce traffic on the John Woods St. I don't see how this is going to help though, as everyone will detour along Santolina and Rosehill to John Woods St instead. What they really need to do is extend Maple Grove 150m to the Stittsville Main street extension. Stittsville Main is better suited to handle this traffic.

1overcosc

Oct 30, 2017, 8:08 PM

LOL. The objective is to reduce traffic on the John Woods St. I don't see how this is going to help though, as everyone will detour along Santolina and Rosehill to John Woods St instead. What they really need to do is extend Maple Grove 150m to the Stittsville Main street extension. Stittsville Main is better suited to handle this traffic.

The best approach would be to extend Maple Grove to connect to Rothbourne Road and thus to Carp Road. This would not only create a proper through route in northern Stittsville, it could form a very efficient bus route as well. Imagine a route extending from Terry Fox station down Maple Grove to Carp Road, then going south along Westridge. A very straight line (and thus fast) local route whose walk-up catchment would include much of northern and western Stittsville.

MountainView

Oct 30, 2017, 8:12 PM

That seems like madness. I don't live in the area so these comments are based off me looking at google maps...but... Why are they closing a street with no houses fronting onto it in that section to make it a MUP. If people complained about traffic volumes they are essentially just going to shift them down Santolina Street.

And yes... as you mentioned why don't they extend Maple Grove to Stittsville Main? Seems too easy!

roger1818

Oct 30, 2017, 8:55 PM

The best approach would be to extend Maple Grove to connect to Rothbourne Road and thus to Carp Road.

In the long term, I agree. The extension to Stittsville Main is a quick fix though. Stittsville Main is designed to handle the traffic as the long term plan is to extend it to Palladium Drive near the 417 ramp.

This would not only create a proper through route in northern Stittsville, it could form a very efficient bus route as well. Imagine a route extending from Terry Fox station down Maple Grove to Carp Road, then going south along Westridge. A very straight line (and thus fast) local route whose walk-up catchment would include much of northern and western Stittsville.

But that would make too much sense. OCTranspo is convinced that the 162 needs to serve the Tanger Mall. I once asked if they could extend the 162 on the west end to loop back to the GRC as not only would that be a good destination for Stittsville residents, but it would also serve Sacred Heart students along Westridge who are just within the 3.2 km busing boundary. The answer I got was there isn't time in the schedule as the priority is serving the Tanger Mall.

BlackRedGold

Oct 30, 2017, 9:11 PM

What is the purpose of a pedestrian/bicycle path that leads to nowhere?

Multi-modal

Oct 30, 2017, 9:27 PM

What is the purpose of a pedestrian/bicycle path that leads to nowhere?

Its actually a nice N-S cycling corridor...

If you are heading south from Maple Grove Road, you can cross Hazeldean to Victor Street, then you are on a pathway all the way to Abbott Street and the Trans Canada Trail.

BlackRedGold

Oct 31, 2017, 12:13 AM

Its actually a nice N-S cycling corridor...

If you are heading south from Maple Grove Road, you can cross Hazeldean to Victor Street, then you are on a pathway all the way to Abbott Street and the Trans Canada Trail.

But you're still going from a regular road to a regular road.

Multi-modal

Oct 31, 2017, 2:12 AM

But you're still going from a regular road to a regular road.
I'm not sure I understand. There are many reasons someone might take this route... recreation, to bike to stittsville, or high school for instance.

I'm not saying the change is that much better for cyclists... other than slightly less traffic on the route. I'm just saying it's nice they are at least preserving it as a north-south route that doesn't require biking on an arterial. These "neighbourhood bikeways" are common in Vancouver.

Keeping a ped and cycling grid (as much as there is one in the suburbs) is good. A vehicular grid is also good for distributing traffic and transit, but it's not as important in my mind. I wouldn't have made this change if I ruled the world, but it's not the worst change caused by neighbourhood complaints I've seen.

P.s. they should totally connect stittsville to maple... So silly.

roger1818

Oct 31, 2017, 3:41 AM

But you're still going from a regular road to a regular road.

Why do you think cyclist need to stay off of roads? As Multi-modal said it is keeping a route open for pedestrians and cyclists that is being closed for automobiles. It would also be a good dog walking path for those who live nearby.

BlackRedGold

Oct 31, 2017, 4:11 AM

I'm not sure I understand. There are many reasons someone might take this route... recreation, to bike to stittsville, or high school for instance.

I'm not saying the change is that much better for cyclists... other than slightly less traffic on the route. I'm just saying it's nice they are at least preserving it as a north-south route that doesn't require biking on an arterial. These "neighbourhood bikeways" are common in Vancouver.

Keeping a ped and cycling grid (as much as there is one in the suburbs) is good. A vehicular grid is also good for distributing traffic and transit, but it's not as important in my mind. I wouldn't have made this change if I ruled the world, but it's not the worst change caused by neighbourhood complaints I've seen.

This isn't a grid. This is literally a path to nowhere. It doesn't connect any bike paths with any other bike paths. South of Hazeldean there appears to be lots of paths through Stittsville. But this doesn't connect to them.

zzptichka

Oct 31, 2017, 4:25 AM

What is the purpose of a pedestrian/bicycle path that leads to nowhere?

It's a park. The path just happens to be there.

Multi-modal

Oct 31, 2017, 11:23 AM

This isn't a grid. This is literally a path to nowhere. It doesn't connect any bike paths with any other bike paths. South of Hazeldean there appears to be lots of paths through Stittsville. But this doesn't connect to them.

You know cyclists can bike on both roads and paths right? So it's a path that connects two roads that are part of a larger network of roads and paths. Roads are not "nowhere" to cyclists. And us others have pointed out the point is not the path, but the park and the (debatable) traffic calming.

roger1818

Oct 31, 2017, 1:31 PM

You know cyclists can bike on both roads and paths right? So it's a path that connects two roads that are part of a larger network of roads and paths. Roads are not "nowhere" to cyclists.

Agreed, and John Woods street is a decent street to ride on. Maple Grove, not so much anymore though, as it is rapidly becoming a major collector, but Rosehill will be a better cycling route. There will also be links to the path from Sweetbay Cir, Escallonia Ct and Mika St.

And us others have pointed out the point is not the path, but the park and the (debatable) traffic calming.

Also, the path will probably be used more by pedestrians than cyclists. In my neighbourhood, the pedestrians greatly outnumber the cyclists. Dog walkers especially like paths as you don't need to worry about cars or people complaining that your dog is peeing on their lawn.

roger1818

Nov 7, 2017, 2:51 PM

from: https://shadqadri.com/2017/11/03/johnwoods-closure-update-2/
Johnwoods Closure Update
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ON NOVEMBER 3, 2017 BY SHADQADRIIN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, WEEKLY COLUMN

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I have received a number of questions and comments from residents regarding the Johnwoods Street Closure which will be taking place on November 15th. For background, including information on the decision to close the road, I encourage residents to ensure they have reviewed the information posted on my website here (https://shadqadri.com/johnwoods-closure/).

Working with City staff, the following responses have been prepared for some of the questions that have been raised. I am continuing to work with City staff on the questions that have been raised and will share more information with the community in the coming weeks as we move forward in this process.

There have been requests for a delay to the closure and at this time there are no plans to delay the closure of the road. It is anticipated that this entire project will be completed by the end of June 2018.

Linear Park Design Comments:

Some residents have requested an extension to the comment deadline for the design details of the park. The deadline for design comments has been extended until November 30th, 2017.
Following the deadline of November 30th, comments will be consolidated and reviewed. Responses and any revisions will be posted in my eNewsletter.
Road Inquires:

Residents have raised concerns with some of the road conditions in the area. Santolina and the portion of Rosehill within the Fairwinds West subdivision is complete with top lift of asphalt. Top lift on the remaining portion of Rosehill is estimated for summer 2018 due to continuous work on the Poole Creek subdivision. The barricade on Rosehill will be open without the top lift being completed. A request has been placed with Tartan to help fix some of the potholes near Rosehill and Warmstone to provide a better driving condition.
There have been inquiries regarding the classifications of roads in this area and on the map it notes that Maple Grove Road is a Major Collector Road and that the southern portion of Johnwoods and Rosehill are classified as Collector Roads. A reminder that an extensive list of all road classifications in Stittsville is available on the “Ward Maps” section of my website under the “Community” header or by clicking here (https://shadqadri.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/ward6.pdf).
Rosehill and Santolina were designed to accommodate transit service and this was also noted in the purchase and sales agreements of the homes on these streets.

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Rosehill Traffic Calming:

Rosehill Drive will have traffic calming measures installed on the street. Please see the map available here (https://shadqadri.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/johnwoods.jpg), showing the location of the permanent and temporary traffic calming measures planned for the street.
The long term permanent plan is to have traffic calming chicanes installed on the street. These will be installed once the entire street receives the top lift of asphalt in 2018. The final design for these is in the process of being completed and will be shared with the community once complete.
In the interim, by November 8th there will be flex stakes placed in 5 locations on Rosehill Drive. These will remain in place until the snow falls this season and if necessary will be re-installed in the Spring 2018 before the chicanes are installed.

Traffic Counts for Johnwoods

Transportation staff are reviewing the traffic data submitted by the community. This data is being compared to the City’s existing data as well as data which I contracted to have done on the street. The City’s Transportation Department has also recently taken a traffic count during Ottawa Senators home games and this data is currently being processed.

Closure Notice Signage

Portable visual messaging signage (PVMS) has been installed in a number of locations as of November 2nd to advise commuters of the road closure.

Update to Mapping Programs

The City’s mapping program will be updated and the City has also been in contact with mapping agencies such as Google Maps.

Proof Sheet

Nov 7, 2017, 4:10 PM

Agreed, and John Woods street is a decent street to ride on. Maple Grove, not so much anymore though, as it is rapidly becoming a major collector, but Rosehill will be a better cycling route. There will also be links to the path from Sweetbay Cir, Escallonia Ct and Mika St.

Also, the path will probably be used more by pedestrians than cyclists. In my neighbourhood, the pedestrians greatly outnumber the cyclists. Dog walkers especially like paths as you don't need to worry about cars or people complaining that your dog is peeing on their lawn.

20+ years ago when the area around the Scotia Bank Place was rapidly being expanded etc, many on Johnswood feared their street would be filled with cars using it as a shortcut. One resident ranted and ranted about it, got speed bumps put on the road to slow down cars and basically bellowed and bellowed to bully his way through the system. Eventually he ran for City Council and lost, but in the end became the Councillors assistant. A number of years ago though he passed away.

https://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/news-story/3946010-mike-o-rourke-dies/

Could the issues he raised been the impetus for the road closure?

rocketphish

Nov 22, 2017, 6:27 PM

Stittsville subdivision open house Nov. 30

by Brian Dryden, Stittsville News
Wednesday, November 22, 2017, 11:05 AM

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More residential development in the ever-growing community of Stittsville that could eventually involve about 1,100 housing units will be the focus of an open house and public meeting on Nov. 30.

The meeting starts with an open house at 6:30 p.m. at the Goulbourn Recreation Complex in Hall A at 1500 Shea Rd. on that date, with a presentation about the project to start at 7 p.m.

According to plans released by the city, “the Plan of Subdivision proposes the development of approximately 1120 detached, townhouse, stacked townhouse, and low-rise apartment residential units.

“The subdivision also includes blocks for commercial development to accommodate a range of small scale retail, restaurant, and service commercial uses and automobile dealerships. A secondary school (OCDSB) and parks, including the Kanata West District Park, are also proposed,” the city’s description of the proposal states.

The proposed plan of subdivision by Shenkman/Cavanagh is in relation to a property at 195 Huntmar Drive that is located west of Huntmar Dr. and south of Hwy. 417.

Stittsville Coun. Shad Qadri is asking residents seeking more information about the proposal to contact his office or contact Ottawa city planner Louise Sweet at 613-580-2424, ext. 27586, or via email at Louise.Sweet@ottawa.ca.

“If a person or public body does not make oral submissions at the public meeting or make written submissions to the City of Ottawa ... then they are not entitled to appeal the decision of the City of Ottawa to the Ontario Municipal Board,” once the city makes a decision about the proposal, city staff point out.

by Brian Dryden
Email: brian.dryden@metroland.com

https://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/news-story/7947784-stittsville-subdivision-open-house-nov-30/