New neighborhood developments [Archive]

Cre47

10-28-2007, 02:54 AM

This is probably the thread surrounding suburban sprawl - this is an element I often follow.

I'm also adding the list of newer developments across the suburbs (Ontario side and only inside Ottawa for the moment). Some them are proposed (PR)/approved (AP) or under development (UD).

Also I don't know the name of many subdivisions/new neighborhoods, and the list may be incomplete - anyone with more and/or precise details can post it here

Kanata/Stittsville

* Morgan's Grant/Brookside (UD, both sides of March Road north of Kanata North Business Park) - I've seen some bulldozing east of March Road this summer
* Fairwinds/Mahogamy/Kanata West/Carp River (UD, PR, portions under development south of Scotiabank Place, proposed north of Scotiabank Place along Huntmar RD)
* Bridlewood (UD, AP,most of the area east of Eagleson Road is done, but I've seen some bulldozing west of Eagleson south of the Business Park near Fernbank)
* Fernbank (PR, under consultation, between Stittsville and Terry Fox Drive)
* Shea Road/Terry Fox Drive/Fallowfield Road/Fernbank Road, (PR, proposed by Calgary developper, which might extend further east to near Barrhaven so to basically have a full suburban area from Stittsville to Leitrim in the very long range)
* North Stittsville (Jackson Estates, UD north of Hazeldean Road and Stittsville Main)
* West and South Stittsville (UD, west portion west of Stittsville Main and south section south of Fernbank Road)
* Carp (UD, likely north of the landfill)
* Kanata Lakes (UD, a new proposal for the area around Richardson Side Road and Terry Fox Drive)
* Richmond (sale of parcel of land in the area which may result in possible new large subdivision)

Riverside South/Barrhaven/Manotick
* Chapman Mills (UD, both side of Woodroffe south of Strandherd although most of the eastern section is done)
* Longfields (UD, mostly done north of Strandherd and south of the future extension of the Transitway from Fallowfield)
* Cedarview/Kennevale (UD, near Strandherd and Cedarview)
* Half Moon Bay (UD, south of the Jock River between the 416 and Greenbank), E-Map shows some streets
* Barrhaven Mews (UD, between Strandherd and the Jock River and west of Jockvale/Greenbank)
* Stonebridge (UD, most of the area east of Jockvale is done with portions between Greenbank and Jockvale south of the Jock River well underway.
* Manotick (PR, proposal by Minto to basically double the size of Manotick)
* Riverside South (UD)
* Leitrim (UD, south of Bank and Leitrim area)

Orleans/Cumberland

* Avalon (Tenth Line Road area south of Innes (UD)
* Notting Hill (Trim Road south of Innes) (UD, a few streets)
* Fallingbrook East north and east of the Trim/Innes intersection (UD)
* Chapel Hill South (or Bradley Estates?) (AP, UD south of Navan Road)
* Mer Bleue (UD) SW corner of Innes and Tenth Line. E-Map shows some streets

Gatineau

* Le Plateau/Le Plateau Symmes/Le Musee (Aylmer sector) (UD)
* Near Lucerne and Fraser Roads (Aylmer sector) (UD)
* L'Escarpement de Limbour (Gatineau sector/Cantley) (UD)
* Buckingham sector - near Lepine and Hwy 315 (AP)
* Les Hauteurs/Davidson (near La Verendrye and Labrosse Blvds - Gatineau sector) (UD)
* Cote des Neiges (Greber Blvd between La Verendrye and Paiement, Gatineau sector) (UD, mostly complete)
* Jardins Lavigne (Aylmer sector north of des Allumettieres Blvd between Eardley and east of Wilfrid Lavigne Blvds) (UD/PR, many sections are completed since several years)
* Near Lorrain and La Verendrye (UD, don't know the name of the community though)
* Cook Road in Aylmer North (PR)
* Chelsea Creek (PR)

Others

* Small development south of Prince of Wales and Hog's Back area
* Small development south of Hunt Club between Paul Anka and Uplands
* Centrepointe: Future development planned near the former Nepean City Hall and Baseline Transit Station
* There was also some bulldozing that took place this summer at Hunt Club and Cahill (a somewhat large space)
* Small development near Albion and Lester Road

waterloowarrior

10-28-2007, 03:16 AM

Good idea for a thread... I also like to follow these developments. here's the Half Moon Bay (http://www.mattamyhomes.com/uploadedFiles/Ottawa/Communities_in_Ottawa/Mattamys_Half_Moon_Bay_in_Barrhaven/Half_Moon_Bay_Site_plan.pdf) site plan...

waterloowarrior

10-30-2007, 05:18 PM

Mahagony Manotick (http://www.fotenn.com/?q=projects/village-of-manotick-development-concept-plan) (Minto) Development Concept Plan (July 07) (http://www.fotenn.com/files/DCPReportJuly1607LowRes.pdf)
There is a meeting tonight about it, where I think the finalized plan will be presented.

edit: Citizen article

1,400 homes could be built in Manotick: city

Response to Minto proposal infuriates many residents

Laura Drake, Ottawa Citizen

Published: Tuesday, October 30, 2007

The city planning department suggested to a crowd in Manotick on Tuesday night that between 1,300 and 1,400 homes could be built as part of a controversial new subdivision, less than the 1,800 that developer Minto proposed. But that didn't come close to satisfying the hundreds of residents at the meeting.

"What part of 'No' don't you understand?" asked Manotick's Steve Montero, eliciting applause from the crowd gathered at Tudor Hall.

"Manotick spoke loud and clear: They did not want this."

In an hour-long presentation Tuesday night, city planner Myles Mahon outlined the city's initial response to a development plan submitted by Minto in July for the Mahogany community.

"We can understand why the city came to the conclusion it did," said Jack Stirling, Minto's vice-president of land development.

"When we did our application, we didn't know if there would be room for 2,000 homes or 1,400 homes or 1,000 homes - we thought our application would help clear that up."

However, the overwhelming response from the crowd was that 1,400 homes is still about 75 per cent too many.

According to Brian Tansley, president of the West Manotick Community Association, Manotick's Secondary Plan - a document drafted in 2000 that sets out guidelines for the village's growth - only allows for about 250 new homes to be built in the village between now and 2020, to keep in line with the current rate of growth of 30 lots per year.

While many people at the meeting echoed Mr. Tansley's assertion, Mr. Mahon said his calculation, based on Manotick's Secondary Plan, allowed for between 800 and 1,436 new homes. He later added that the city has not yet developed a recommendation as to how many of those could be built before 2020.

Mr. Mahon said the development of the Minto land will depend on some infrastructure that's not yet available, including a bridge connecting Strandherd and Armstrong roads.

The city's initial report also recommended no blocks of townhouses be built and that lot sizes be increased - both of which received applause from the crowd - but the main concern was over the number of units that could be built in the new area.

Currently, there are only about 1,750 homes in Manotick for its 5,250 people, which Minto's original proposal would have eventually doubled.

"I have yet to meet a single person who has said this won't threaten the character of Manotick," said Mr. Tansley. The association made its own 43-page submission to the city on Sept. 21, which included results of a survey distributed to every resident in the K4M postal code, which includes all of Manotick and its surrounding area. It also includes the association's top 10 issues with the proposal, including increased burdens on traffic, emergency services, recreational facilities and the environment.

Mr. Tansley said that none of the nearly 1,000 people in his association are opposed to development, but they believe that growth must be gradual and density should be confined to the core of the village.

Though the planners will not present their final recommendations to the agriculture and rural affairs committee for several months, Mr. Mahon said city staff wanted to hold Tuesday night's meeting to discuss their initial response to have "a two-month window for resolving issues."

Minto will have an opportunity to present a revised plan to the rural issues advisory committee on Nov. 27. The final staff recommendation will be presented to a meeting of the agriculture and rural affairs committee on Jan. 24, which is open to the public.

© Ottawa Citizen 2007

harls

11-06-2007, 05:38 PM

waterloowarrior

11-06-2007, 05:45 PM

I just heard on the news that Algonquin College is selling their land for some sort of "town centre" development called Centrepointe (?)... it would involve rerouting the Baseline transitway station..

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/csedc/2007/11-06/ACS2007-CMR-CSE-0012-(Complete).htm

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/csedc/2007/11-06/ACS2007-CMR-CSE-0012-%28Complete%29_files/image008.jpg

harls

11-06-2007, 05:51 PM

^ that's it. Apparently it's a go, according to Michael O'Byrne just moments ago..

Jamaican-Phoenix

11-06-2007, 07:28 PM

I like the townhomes near Centrepointe. Now all we need is LRT running along Baseline, and we could start to see some serious improvement in the area.

Cre47

11-06-2007, 07:49 PM

That's looks quite good indeed, although not sure if Baseline was part of the LRT plans, I think it was further south closer to Hunt Club however I think it was close to one of the vision-proposal METRO lines. I know there are plans for making the 118 a BRT route with better transit priority measures (there are gradually doing it in the eastern part of the road, with some rush-hour extension to Orleans). So they will have some excellent transit service also with the future completion of the Gap of the Southwest Transitway and being not too far from the future Western Transitway

Also I may suspect that this the project in question (in stake) that explained why Rick Chiarelli voted for the re-opening of Albion Road, although I don't see how the Albion issue would influence this project - it is much faster via the Parkway and Heron

Jamaican-Phoenix

11-06-2007, 08:20 PM

:previous: Baseline was never intended for LRT, but I can dream, can't I? ;)

Cre47

11-06-2007, 08:42 PM

Well maybe, but since the MTTF prefers existing rail, we can dream. Also I've seen in the past an article that some Centrepointe residents wants to close the eastern intersection of Baseline and Centrepointe because of growing traffic concerns because of that. Looking at the Public Consultations section of the City they are planning a new intersection (Baseline and Ben Franklin Place) which would probably ease the potential problems. Route 118 will no longer likely do the circuitous loop at Baseline and Woodroffe thus saving a few minutes of traffic jam.

bradnixon

11-09-2007, 09:19 PM

:previous: Baseline was never intended for LRT, but I can dream, can't I? ;)

The E-W LRT EA had its preferred route along Baseline.

http://www.ottawa.ca/public_consult/lrt/ew/stage_3/display_en.html

Closeup here: http://www.ottawa.ca/public_consult/lrt/ew/stage_3/boards/Exhibit_18prefer_section4.jpg

jeremy_haak

11-09-2007, 09:31 PM

I think the city was originally planning BRT along Baseline, like the B-line in Vancouver, not the Transitway.

waterloowarrior

11-09-2007, 09:43 PM

re: BRT on baseline
TMP has these plans

Baseline Corridor Phase I- Transit priority
Phase II- Semi-exclusive rapid transit (Navaho Drive to Data Centre) (Baseline Road Widen from four to six lanes to create bus lanes from Navaho Drive to Prince of Wales Drive)

Provides high quality city-wide transit access to employment, commercial and institutional land uses adjacent to Baseline Road, and fast, reliable service to major rapid transit lines for corridor residents. Also, provides key link between Southwest and Southeast bus rapid transit network segments by avoiding downtown and promotes corridor redevelopment particularly at Confederation Heights

Under Transplan 2009, this was supposed to happen, don't know the status of anything now, but there is some stuff happening on Heron:

Transit priority measures

·Heron/Baseline – Transit priority measures are required to reduce travel times and to improve the reliability of service between Heron Station, Baseline Station, and Queensway-Carleton Hospital. These improvements will increase the attractiveness of the new crosstown east-west rapid transit 90-series bus routes that will bypass downtown. A transit priority study is underway by consultants to the Traffic and Parking Operations Branch; this study will define the feasible options (in two phases – short-term and longer-term) and make estimates of costs for each element. The first, short-term, phase of these measures will be required by early 2007, so that the crosstown rapid transit bus routes can be in place to encourage customers to bypass the heavy construction in downtown for the light rail line. Possible transit priority measures include:
-Signal priority;
-Signal pre-emption;
-Bus lanes;
-Removal of bus bays and installing bus bulbs;
-Traffic management measures such as queue relocation and traffic metering;
-Turn and operation restrictions to non-transit vehicles;
-Corridor-wide traffic management and public information systems favourable to transit users.

waterloowarrior

11-09-2007, 10:05 PM

Longfields Concept Plan (http://www.barrhavenbia.ca/planning/LongfieldsConceptmar07.ppt)
City-owned and planned subdivision...

Shaped by choice, not by chance - the Longfields subdivision will be a smart-growth community demonstrating the City’s 20/20 principles. The City will register the plan of subdivision, rezone the lands, adopt design and environmental requirements and will then oversee phased land sales and construction of homes by an array of local builders. While securing a balanced return on investment, the project will “demonstrate” the following:
§ 4 distinct neighbourhoods, embracing public parks
§ compact development
§ an array of housing types for all income ranges
§ neighbourhood conveniences and a central transit station
§ a modified grid road network complemented by a rapid bus corridor
§ a network of pathways for pedestrians and cyclists
§ extensive landscaping and the preservation of environmental features
innovative planning principles and progressive design standards

clynnog

11-10-2007, 02:01 AM

Longfields Concept Plan (http://www.barrhavenbia.ca/planning/LongfieldsConceptmar07.ppt)
City-owned and planned subdivision...

I don't mean to burst your bubble but IMHO the City doesn't have the entrepreneurial spirit and skill to take land through a City driven process such as subdivision and rezoning. As well, it is highly unlikely that City Council would turn down a rezoning request initiated by internal City staff.

waterloowarrior

11-10-2007, 02:31 AM

I don't mean to burst your bubble but IMHO the City doesn't have the entrepreneurial spirit and skill to take land through a City driven process such as subdivision and rezoning. As well, it is highly unlikely that City Council would turn down a rezoning request initiated by internal City staff.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that..

I've talked to someone at the city (real estate services) about this, and this person was really excited about the whole project and how a lot of the city's current thinking and expectations about mixed uses/densities, parks, transportation, and design were being incorporated into this project. They felt that there was a general level of support for their initiative. Apparently the draft plan of subdivision and rezoning were submitted in June 07 and it should be approved by December 07...

from October 10th council

4. ComMunity LANDS Development Project -
Implementation Strategy

Committee Recommendations as amended

That Council:

1. Proceed with the development of the Longfields Subdivision lands on a phased basis, as described in this report, subject to registration of a plan of subdivision and on condition that a development agreement is executed prior to transfer of the lands from the City, and staff be directed to:
a) Undertake the necessary studies and design work required for registration of the plan of subdivision and subdivision agreement;
b) Prepare Request for Proposals (RFP’s) in 2007, as described in this report, for:
i) The sale of the Neighbourhood # 1 1ands (Beatrice to Woodroffe area) (Phase 1A) on a serviced lot/block basis with the City establishing the sales price and urban/architectural design guidelines/criteria for selecting the best proposal for a high standard of community design; and
ii) The sale of the Neighbourhood # 3 lands (Highbury Park Drive area), (Phase 1B) on an unserviced lands basis with the City establishing the sales price and environmental guidelines/criteria for selecting the best proposal for a demonstration “green community”; and
c) Report back to the Corporate Services and Economic Development Committee and Council with respect to the above RFP processes set out in this report prior to initiating the call(s) for proposals;

2. Proceed with the establishment of a Community Lands Development Corporation (holding company) for the Longfields Subdivision and Centrepointe Town Centre projects, as described in this report, by:
a) Approving this report and the “Corporate Purposes” and the “Corporate Structure and Organizational Direction” set out in Documents 3 & 4 attached hereto as the Business Case Study for establishing the Community Lands Development Corporation; and
b) Authorizing staff to proceed with the incorporation of the Community Lands Development Corporation for the Longfields Subdivision and Centrepointe Town Centre projects in accordance with the Business Case Study set out above and also in accordance with the provisions of the Municipal Act, 2001, as amended, and the Business Corporations Act and;

3. Direct staff to report back to CSEDC and Council with recommendations pertaining to the transfer of surplus lands from the City to the Community Lands Development Corporation.

CARRIED

also, here's a link to the report and a pic that I forgot to include in my previous post
http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/csedc/2007/11-06/ACS2007-CMR-CSE-0012-(Complete).htm (http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/csedc/2007/11-06/ACS2007-CMR-CSE-0012-%28Complete%29.htm)

http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/csedc/2007/11-06/ACS2007-CMR-CSE-0012-%28Complete%29_files/image004.jpg

Cre47

11-10-2007, 11:45 PM

Cre47

11-11-2007, 12:35 AM

^ that's it. Apparently it's a go, according to Michael O'Byrne just moments ago..

Also according to OBJ a vote on November 14 on the foot bridge/walkway will be made. And looks like from what the article says it ŵill be approved. And that will be finally. http://www.ottawabusinessjournal.com/290256075046454.php

Cre47

11-11-2007, 07:34 PM

I've check the E-MAP for the City of Ottawa which now shows new streets west of Tenth Line south of Innes which appears to be residential (or planned) streets. I suspect they are starting (or very soon) to do some bulldozing for the new Mer Bleue Community in south Orleans. The new update seems to show more streets/bulldozing done further south and east in Avalon as well as well as the area west of Jockvale Road in South Barrhaven

Rysdad

11-15-2007, 03:46 PM

This is a different type of dev for this area I believe

http://chelseacreek.ca/project.php

Deez

11-15-2007, 04:46 PM

^I just threw up on my keyboard. Thanks.

harls

11-15-2007, 08:47 PM

This is a different type of dev for this area I believe

http://chelseacreek.ca/project.php

Interesting that on the map they show autoroute 50 in behind the development. There is no highway there right now.. maybe the developer knows something the MTQ doesn't?

Rysdad

11-16-2007, 07:25 PM

I think thats autoroute 5 in the plan. Its just off the 5 at the old chelsea overpass

harls

11-16-2007, 07:50 PM

I think thats autoroute 5 in the plan. Its just off the 5 at the old chelsea overpass

5 is there, yes, but they also show "50" right to the south of it.. and it doesn't exist (well, not yet anyway)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2038606724_ef228d0c7b_o.jpg

waterloowarrior

11-16-2007, 08:07 PM

5 is there, yes, but they also show "50" right to the south of it.. and it doesn't exist (well, not yet anyway)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2038606724_ef228d0c7b_o.jpg

I found this on Gatineau's webite (on their official plan page under transportation)
http://www.ville.gatineau.qc.ca/urbanisme/images/plans_pu/planp05_07.jpg

(map is too big to post here)

harls

11-16-2007, 08:14 PM

waterloowarrior

11-16-2007, 08:24 PM

^ Yeah, I believe that is their long-term plan, but I don't think it will be completed for a long time to come. I just found it odd that this site would show this tiny part of the proposed extension as an existing road. If you check google maps, they don't show it..

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=hull+quebec&ie=UTF8&ll=45.495819,-75.786524&spn=0.033692,0.069094&z=14&iwloc=addr&om=1

actually, now that I think of it.. someone mentioned on here before that extension though Gatineau Park and Aylmer/Ottawa River Parkway will never see the light of day.

That's pretty bizzare, I guess it's probably some bad data. On the bottom right of the developers map it says Tele-Atlas, but Google Maps link shows the map data is from Navteq...the developer's map does have some elements of custom programming, so they are probably using the Google Maps API. The Google Maps API uses Tele-Atlas data, rather than Navteq so probably Tele-Atlas made a mistake

harls

11-16-2007, 08:30 PM

I'm thinking the developers added it manually to entice buyers (ooh, two freeways? honey, look at this!).. or maybe there's some backdoor shenanigans going on with the city/province (build this highway and we'll build this development or vice-versa) :D

waterloowarrior

11-16-2007, 08:36 PM

^ :D Here's a site that compares Teleatlas and Navteq.. (click on the top right to switch)
http://uwmike.com/maps/source/?ll=45.488659,-75.773907&z=13

waterloowarrior

11-19-2007, 07:08 PM

minto's mahagony community in manotick open house presentation (http://ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/manotick/oh3_presentation_en.html)
and questions and answers (http://ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/manotick/q_and_a_en.html)

http://ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/manotick/oh3_presentation_en-1.jpg

http://ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/manotick/oh3_presentation_en-4.jpg

http://ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/manotick/oh3_presentation_en-7.jpg

AylmerOptimist

11-20-2007, 02:02 AM

can anyone find something on Aylmer's development?

harls

11-20-2007, 07:22 PM

Brigil has a bunch :

Rivermead:

http://www.brigil.com/fr/emplacements/pdf/rv/lots.pdf

Plateau Symmes -

http://www.brigil.com/fr/emplacements/pdf/ps/lots.pdf

Chateau Golf

http://www.brigil.com/fr/emplacements/pdf/cg/lots.pdf

Ambassade Champlain

http://www.brigil.com/fr/emplacements/pdf/ac/plansite_ambassade.pdf

then there's Vieux Moulins - by Chabitat

http://www.chabitat.com/pg_plan_ensemble.php

Cre47

01-15-2008, 05:52 PM

clynnog

01-16-2008, 10:34 PM

Thanks to Waterloowarrior, I've checked the Shad Qadri's site and quite a lot of applications for residential developments from say the newly extension of Stittsville Main Street to almost Terry Fox Drive with other applications on the western end of Stittsville on Westridge as well as in the south on Fernbank not to mention also the proposed Fernbank subdivision. http://www.shadqadri.com/planning.htm#residential

There is also a possible development planned, albeit small since a lot of the lands are occupied there since several years already north of Fallowfield and Strandherd just east of the 416 and west of Cedarview. http://www.barrhavenbia.ca/notices.htm

The new extension of Stittsville Main Street (I assume you mean at the north end near Hazeldean) has been in the works for about 1.5 years now. People have moved into their freshly moonblasted surroundings. The Fernbank subdivision is more of a long term thing.

Having been involved in a couple of projects in Stittsville, the place strikes me as the reluctant offspring of Ottawa...they don't want any part of the urban life that the greater Ottawa area enjoys...they just want to be left alone in their community of single family homes with poor public transit service(and they like it that way).

IIRC, there is a stacked TH project likely to go to the OMB in Stittsville. The nearby residents were opposed to something like 32 stacked TH's (16 pairings of 2 units). The local Councillor (Shad) rallied the troops after it passed at PEC and was overturned by the full Council.

BlackRedGold

01-17-2008, 03:42 AM

Having been involved in a couple of projects in Stittsville, the place strikes me as the reluctant offspring of Ottawa...they don't want any part of the urban life that the greater Ottawa area enjoys...they just want to be left alone in their community of single family homes with poor public transit service(and they like it that way).

It's like Ottawa's own little slice of Americana.

waterloowarrior

01-18-2008, 01:01 AM

Mahogany Manotick going to next Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee meeting (http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/ara/2008/01-24/ACS2008-PTE-PLA-0014.htm) (recommendation for approval - 1400 units, up to 25% multiples)

http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/mintomanotick.jpg

clynnog

01-18-2008, 01:22 AM

[QUOTE=waterloowarrior;3290397]Mahogany Manotick going to next Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee meeting (http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/ara/2008/01-24/ACS2008-PTE-PLA-0014.htm) (recommendation for approval - 1400 units, up to 25% multiples)

Thanks for the heads up on this one. Despite what a persons position is on this subdivision, it takes a lot of effort on either side to see a project like this through to the end in order to consider how all the various pieces of the puzzle all fit together. I find it a bit rich that existing Manotickers are bemoaning this proposed subdivision as cookie cutter sprawl etc, as my recollection of the lands to the north are that they represent McMansions on large open lots with lots of grass.

waterloowarrior

01-25-2008, 01:09 PM

Committee rejects Minto's Manotick plans
Patrick DareOttawa Citizen
Thursday, January 24, 2008

Citizens fighting a huge expansion of Manotick booed city staff and cheered their leaders Thursday night as they argued for the preservation of the community's village feel.

About 200 residents showed up at the city's rural and agricultural affairs committee at Tudor Hall as the committee considered the Mahogany community Minto Developments wants to build. After a seven-hour meeting, the committee voted 4-2 to reject Minto's proposal. The issue will be debated by full council on Feb. 13.

Several times, the committee's chairman, Councillor Rob Jellett, asked the crowd to stop cheering and jeering, to no avail. The Minto plan has hit a nerve with many of the community's 1,750 residents.

Minto wants to build a new community on 430 acres the company owns in Manotick. The land is bounded by Century Road, First Line Road and Manotick's Main Street.

Yesterday, the city's planning staff told councillors to approve the plan, which would see 1,400 houses go up, including single-family homes, townhouses and semis.

An additional 350 homes, in phases six and seven, could be built at a later date. Minto originally wanted to build 2,000 houses on its land.

City planner Myles Mahon acknowledged that the community's road system is at capacity. But he said key changes were made to the original plan, including the preservation of a woodlot and a more gradual staging of development, as well as design guidelines to make the houses fit in better. Phase 2 of the development would only proceed when measures to increase transportation capacity are complete.

Many citizens who showed up at the meeting weren't impressed.

Speaker after speaker argued against Minto's project, saying the development would destroy the scale and ambiance of the community.

"Manotick is a rural village. It's not a suburb," said Brian Tansley, president of the West Manotick Community Association. He said Manotick is a historic village that cannot keep its "sense of place" by doubling its size in 10 years.

Susan Boucher said the development would "effectively kill the village as we know it today." She said council has an obligation to support what residents want and they don't want the development.

Mary Findlater, waving a sign that said "a village speaks," said the development will make the community suburban, while Tom Levasseur said he fears "rows and rows of houses on postage-sized lots."

Residents also said they fear the increased traffic from development, saying that ambulances, fire trucks and police cars will have difficulty getting to people in need during heavy traffic periods.

But opposition to the development isn't unanimous.

Mike O'Neil, president of the Manotick Community Association, said there is some support in the community for the development. He said Manotick needs some of the things that come with development, such as community buildings. As an example, he noted that Manotick didn't have a meeting hall big enough to accommodate Thursday night's gathering.

Jack Stirling, vice-president of land development for Minto, said some residents didn't attend the meeting because they fear reprisals if they speak out in support of the development.

He said one of the builder's key disagreements with residents is over how many houses Minto can build on the land within the existing municipal secondary plan. He said residents believe it only allows for 250, but the company believes it allows many more.

Mr. Stirling said Minto will go to great lengths to ensure the new housing fits into Manotick, using materials such as wood and design guidelines with a more rural look.

Mr. Stirling said if the city approves the development, Minto could start building by late 2009. It plans to build about 150 houses a year.

Any appeal to the Ontario Municipal Board could push construction to 2011.

....

waterloowarrior

01-30-2008, 03:10 AM

Chelsea Creek...
Housing project to triple size of Old Chelsea

200-home 'green' community planned

DAVE ROGERS, Ottawa Citizen

Published: Tuesday, January 29, 2008

One of the Gatineau Park's most picturesque villages is about to triple in size with the addition of a 200-home "sustainable and green" community.

The Chelsea Creek housing project, to be built on a farm near the entrance to Gatineau Park, at Highway 5 and Old Chelsea Road, will include 46 two-storey condominiums, 73 single homes, 81 units of senior citizen housing and a mixture of shops and offices.

But what makes this development unique will be its green philosophy. It will promote car sharing, cycling, water conservation and the use of recycled and reclaimed building materials. Vinyl siding will be banned and much of the development will have a district heating system using central ground source heat pumps.

Mayor Jean Perras said the development will change the face of Old Chelsea. He said greater housing density will require the construction of a sewage lagoon, probably on Mill Street near the Gatineau River. Most Chelsea homes and businesses now use septic tanks and private wells, but they won't be allowed in the new part of Old Chelsea because the lots will be too small to accommodate them.

Charles Cardinal, a spokesman for the municipality, said the Chelsea Creek sewage system may be linked to a municipal sewage lagoon that will be constructed for the existing part of Old Chelsea. Mr. Cardinal said the federal and provincial governments will pay most of the $6-million cost of the Old Chelsea sewage lagoon and a similar system in the Farm Point area.

Developer Mark Shank said 55 homes were planned on the 83-acre farm in 2004, but new provincial regulations allow higher density where there are communal services. Water for the development will come from a central well.

Meanwhile, Gatineau Park activist Jean-Paul Murray said land for the development is a wildlife corridor used by animals living in Gatineau Park.

"That is urbanization of what was a small town," Mr. Murray said. "Deer and bears walk across Highway 5 to get to that corridor. When 200 houses are built on that land it, will become more like Kanata.

"We are losing something that is precious for a lot of Ottawans who go there for peace and quiet. That is disappearing more and more now."

A public meeting on the housing project is scheduled at 7:30 p.m. Thursday Jan. 31, at Chelsea Community Centre on Old Chelsea Road. More details are available on the developer's website: www.chelseacreek.ca.

harls

01-30-2008, 02:30 PM

The Chelsea Creek housing project, to be built on a farm near the entrance to Gatineau Park, at Highway 5 and Old Chelsea Road, will include 46 two-storey condominiums, 73 single homes, 81 units of senior citizen housing and a mixture of shops and offices.

At first glance, I thought that said "two 46-storey condominiums"!

This is what happens when you don't have your morning coffee.

Rysdad

02-01-2008, 06:50 PM

Chelsea Creek...

a green community of people that commute to gatineau and ottawa to work ...
I dont think its the right location for such a development should be closer to the cores and near rapid transit

Cre47

02-01-2008, 07:12 PM

Big plans possible for Richmond Village

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/city/story.html?id=dd68ac78-bc34-4f44-9633-50d4bd4f54b9

Cre47

02-01-2008, 07:17 PM

Cre47

02-06-2008, 04:30 PM

I've briefly heard on CTV that the development project planned near Scotiabank Place along the Carp River is currently on hold.

bradnixon

02-06-2008, 04:31 PM

A new section of Riverside South, south of Earl Armstrong, adjacent to the LRT/transit line, by Avalon Homes:

http://www.avalonottawa.com/summerhill/about_summerhill.html

The purple triangle ("il Mercado") looks interesting:

il Mercado an exclusive Mediterranean-themed neighborhood.
80,000 square feet Commercial consisting of:
Specialty shops
Professional offices
Banking
300 Mediterranean-influenced condos with vista corridors
Exotic foliage

The rendering looks kind of neat.

(not sure how "Exotic foliage" might survive the winter...)

clynnog

02-06-2008, 04:44 PM

A new section of Riverside South, south of Earl Armstrong, adjacent to the LRT/transit line, by Avalon Homes:

If you buy a unit do you get a Roxy Music CD with the purchase?

clynnog

02-06-2008, 04:47 PM

I've briefly heard on CTV that the development project planned near Scotiabank Place along the Carp River is currently on hold.

Kudos to the engineer at the City who resisted the overt pressure from within City Hall and the developers and their consultants who were to benefit.

The press I'm reading sounds too simplistic that the engineering firm did not account for runoff as a result of the new development (in other words lands that would be housing would have a lower runoff co-efficient as there is now a lot of hard surfaces etc). I think that they didn't totally account for all the new development. I can't believe that they didn't account for any of it.

jeremy_haak

02-06-2008, 05:29 PM

Kudos to the engineer at the City who resisted the overt pressure from within City Hall and the developers and their consultants who were to benefit.

The press I'm reading sounds too simplistic that the engineering firm did not account for runoff as a result of the new development (in other words lands that would be housing would have a lower runoff co-efficient as there is now a lot of hard surfaces etc). I think that they didn't totally account for all the new development. I can't believe that they didn't account for any of it.

From what I hear, the owners groups for Kanata West aren't too happy about all of this.

Mille..what is the buzz within City Hall on this.

From what I've heard, city hall seemed quite content to go along with it. It was an engineer from within city hall who lost his job that appealed the approval to the OMB, and as a result got his hands on documents which seemed to show that the flooding analysis was incomplete.

Deez

02-06-2008, 06:52 PM

^He didn't lose his job, but he was reassigned to a different project.

il Mercado an exclusive Mediterranean-themed neighborhood.
80,000 square feet Commercial consisting of:
Specialty shops
Professional offices
Banking
300 Mediterranean-influenced condos with vista corridors
Exotic foliage

It's worth noting that the last bullet point in this list said "LRT station". Don't count on it.

bradnixon

02-07-2008, 02:10 AM

It's worth noting that the last bullet point in this list said "LRT station". Don't count on it.

Why? In the latest round of transit debates, council did approve LRT to Riverside South as part of the network.

I'm holding out hope that it will happen eventually- just 10 years later and at least 50% more expensive.

Deez

02-07-2008, 04:33 AM

That's not entirely true.

What council did was identify a hastily-put-together set of near-term transit investments that they thought should merit immediate funding (without study) so that they could cash in on the money coming from Queen's Park. One of those projects was to extend the current DMU O-train to Leitrim Road...well short of the intersection of Earl of Armstrong and Spratt.

What is happening now is the City is building a new rapid transit network plan for the year 2031, to be included as part of the 2008 TMP. I can confirm that LRT through Riverside South is not part of this plan. This does not mean that it 100% won't happen--we've seen that political interference can drastically change the scope of transportation plans--but as it stands right now there are no plans to run LRT through Riverside South.

This development shows how the N-S line was flexing its TOD inducing muscles well before it was to be built. Sad that it likely won't happen now.

d_jeffrey

02-07-2008, 03:48 PM

bradnixon

02-07-2008, 06:40 PM

as it stands right now there are no plans to run LRT through Riverside South.

This is probably starting to get off-topic, but the post by d_jeffrey in the Transportation thread (here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=3322071&postcount=585) showing 3 options that were presented to council as part of the TMP update ALL show some form of rapid transit through Riverside South along the same NS-LRT corridor.

I don't see that corridor changing. Whether it's LRT or BRT, 5 years from now or 20, it will happen eventually. They simply can't build out Riverside South without it being served by rapid transit.

Deez

02-07-2008, 07:29 PM

I'm going to reply in the Transit forum...

clynnog

02-08-2008, 12:47 AM

I've briefly heard on CTV that the development project planned near Scotiabank Place along the Carp River is currently on hold.

CBC TV was reporting this evening that the branch manager at the engineering firm that did the storm water management report (that is now in question) is married to the MNR rep who signed off (on behalf of MNR) on the storm water management report. Obviously, in a development of this magnitude MNR is not the only applicable commenting agency.

waterloowarrior

02-08-2008, 04:33 AM

Manotick residents "fear the unknown" (http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=d00b8ccd-c7e2-42a0-964f-e722a8b726b7&k=12965)

next week Wednesday should be interesting....

bradnixon

02-08-2008, 02:38 PM

Manotick residents "fear the unknown" (http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=d00b8ccd-c7e2-42a0-964f-e722a8b726b7&k=12965)

next week Wednesday should be interesting....

Says Roger Greenberg: "What we are going to do there is make it a flagship community. We feel that all the buzzwords that apply to smart growth is what we are proposing to do in Manotick."

Except that there are no commercial or employment zones anywhere in the development, so everyone will have to leave for work, and there probably won't be much, if any, transit. But other than that.... :koko:

harls

02-11-2008, 06:48 PM

It will be green only if there is more public transit there in the rush hour. The H-C-W line, which the TMP plan suggest rail service for 2037 is probably too far to the east and south of the community for potential rapid transit commuting and currently only two trips serve Old Chelsea.

Speaking of Chelsea Creek, I wonder if the MTQ is going to be ready for the influx of drivers on autoroute 5? Was there plans to create a link to 50 west to offload the lineup of people trying to get to downtown Hull? Or were there plans to revamp that entire spaghetti-like mess of an interchange?

Acajack

02-11-2008, 08:50 PM

Naaaaaaaah. Levels of government never talk to each other when it comes to this type of thing. Municipalities approve hundreds if not thousands of single-use residential communities without thinking or where all these people will work and how they’ll get there.

Actually, Chelsea Creek won’t be so bad, as we’re only talking about 200 homes and the 5 is nowhere near capacity.

But what I find amazing is for example the Escarpement de Limbour development they are working on on the east side of the Gatineau River just north of the Alonzo-Wright Bridge. There are thousands of homes slated to be built there, yet Gatineau has no firm commitment for the (maxed-out) bridge’s widening, nor does it even provide transit yet to the few hundred people who already live there.

waterloowarrior

02-12-2008, 02:16 AM

Minto will appeal decision at OMB if council rejects application
Jake Rupert
The Ottawa Citizen
Monday, February 11, 2008

If city council rejects Minto's application to develop 430 acres of land in Manotick Wednesday, the company will appeal the ruling to the Ontario Municipal Board, the company's vice-president of development said Monday.

"It wouldn't be our first preference," Jack Sterling said, "but if we don't have the support of council, we would appeal."

The municipality is not the final arbiter of whether or not development can occur. That power lies with the board, made up of provincial appointees.
Mr. Sterling said with city staff recommending the project go ahead, the land designated for development and an number of other factors in Minto's favour, the company feels there is good reason for council to overturn its rural-affairs committee's decision to reject the proposal two weeks ago.

He said the company has satisfied all relevant concerns about the project, and the plan meets the city's goals and needs.

"There's a full range of reasons why it's appropriate," Mr. Sterling said.

If the matter does go to the board, the staff recommendation and the land's being designated for construction would weigh in the company's favour.

Minto's plan has hit a nerve with many of the community's 5,200 residents.

The company wants to build 1,750 houses, including single-family homes, townhouses and semi-detached dwellings, on the southern edge of the village between Century Road, First Line Road and Main Street.

Under the company's plan, about 1,400 homes would be built over the next nine years and 350 would be built at a later date.

Many residents argue the project, which could more than double the size of the village, would destroy the character of the area and snarl traffic.

About 200 people opposed to the project went to city council's rural-affairs committee last month to voice their opinions, and the committee voted 4-2 against the development.

Since then, the company has been meeting with residents' associations from the area and with Rideau-Goulbourn Glenn Brooks.

"We're trying to close the gap between our plans and their expectations," Mr. Sterling said. "We think the leaders of the associations understand the issues, but I'm not sure the average resident of the area does."

Many people from other rural villages with land around them designated for future growth are watching what happens in Manotick because what happens there could set a precedent for their areas.

In Richmond, one of Canada's biggest house-builders, Mattamy Homes, has bought or optioned 320 acres of land that is currently being farmed and has made it known that the company is planning a subdivision.

The land is on the west side of Richmond, from Fortune and Queen Charlotte streets to the village boundary, and is also designated as a future-growth area in Ottawa's official plan.

Mattamy project manager Susan Murphy said the company is beginning its planning process and it's too early to talk about the number of houses or any description of a development. She said those things will be worked out by talking with people in Richmond and the city government.

© The Ottawa Citizen 2008

Russell Township is another area set to boom... 24,000 (almost double the population) by 2025. right now the market is dominated by local (ie based in Russell township) builders.

here's a development coming on the west side of Russell
http://www.melanieconstruction.com/oldtowne/phase1.pdf

waterloowarrior

02-13-2008, 02:17 AM

waterloowarrior

02-13-2008, 04:08 AM

Denley on Minto Manotick (http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/columnists/story.html?id=5e680299-5bdf-45a2-9acf-f2f8c07c6c99)

clynnog

02-13-2008, 02:14 PM

Ashton Creek Estates - 43 estate lots near Ashton (a village of 200 people east of Carleton Place) (http://www.newhomesandcondos.com/modules/magazine/article.asp?AID=6126&MID=3&IDATE=1/21/2008&CMID=3&CIDATE=1/21/2008)

30 minutes from Parliament Hill..that is a stretch..more like about 50 km via 417 etc....not taking into account traffic etc.

Just what we need...more exurbia with no connection to anywhere else.

clynnog

02-13-2008, 02:15 PM

Denley on Minto Manotick (http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/columnists/story.html?id=5e680299-5bdf-45a2-9acf-f2f8c07c6c99)

Council meeting today on this....I gather it was turned down by Ag/Rural Affairs Committee but what about Planning Committee.

bradnixon

02-13-2008, 03:02 PM

Council meeting today on this....I gather it was turned down by Ag/Rural Affairs Committee but what about Planning Committee.

Planning Committee no longer deals with development applications outside the urban boundary.

clynnog

02-13-2008, 03:31 PM

Planning Committee no longer deals with development applications outside the urban boundary.

Oh boy...do I feel dumb....I haven't been involved in a planning application out in the 'townships' in a long time.

Cre47

02-13-2008, 03:58 PM

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2008/02/13/4843278-sun.html

Lastest plan is for 1365 new homes in 15 years

clynnog

02-13-2008, 04:41 PM

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2008/02/13/4843278-sun.html

Lastest plan is for 1365 new homes in 15 years

Should be an interesting Council meeting of motions, counter motions, counter counter motions and then Cullen will start to get involved.

I'm sure that a lot of people in the Tick will be ticked off at this compromise positions as their McMansion lifestyle could have some neighbours.

Cre47

02-13-2008, 05:57 PM

The Brooks motion to defeat the proposal passed 19-5 and this will likely head to OMB, so we might not have heard the last about this issue.

clynnog

02-13-2008, 06:11 PM

The Brooks motion to defeat the proposal passed 19-5 and this will likely head to OMB, so we might not have heard the last about this issue.

Do you think that Minto or people in Manotick (or both) will appeal this to the OMB. Sounds like the modified proposal would rid itself of any of the dreaded high density (sarcasm mode on....Manotick residents idea of high density starts at townhouses and goes up from there.)

waterloowarrior

02-13-2008, 10:09 PM

No Manotick compromise

Ottawa city council votes down Minto proposal to double size of village

Jake Rupert, The Ottawa Citizen

Published: Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Ottawa city council has rejected, by a vote of 19 to five, a development application from Minto that would more than double the size of Manotick.

The move was greeted with praise by several Manotick residents who attended Wednesday's council meeting and were concerned that the development would destroy the character of the village. It also angered Minto's vice-president of land development, Jack Stirling.

Mr. Stirling said he believed the company, Rideau-Goulbourn Councillor Glenn Brooks, and residents from the area had a compromise deal heading into the meeting, and that the company will now have to make a decision on whether to continue looking for a compromise or to appeal council's ruling to the Ontario Municipal Board.

Mr. Stirling has previously said the company would appeal to the board, which can overrule cities' planning decisions, if Minto were turned down.

Under the company's plan, about 1,400 homes would be built over the next nine years and 350 would be built later, including single-family homes, townhouses and semi-detached homes on 430 acres on the southern edge of the village, between Century Road, First Line Road and Main Street.

waterloowarrior

02-29-2008, 12:57 AM

City committee ignores experts, OKs lots on land with bad water
Patrick Dare The Ottawa Citizen
Thursday, February 28, 2008

Several of the city's most experienced planning staff members lined up in front of Ottawa's agricultural and rural affairs committee Thursday and implored members not to allow rural lots to be created on land with poor water. Their advice was not taken.

The staff members wanted the committee to support their appeal of a committee of adjustment decision to the Ontario Municipal Board. That committee had given a property owner the right to create three house lots on Stoneridge Road in West Carleton, even though the water on the property is too high in salt.

Grant Lindsay, a manager of development approvals with the city, told councillors the city's planning staff has tried to be flexible when looking at land-development proposals. But he said approving lot severances that are clearly in violation of the city's own official plan and provincial policy is going too far.

"What you see here today is an example where we feel we cannot go," said Mr. Lindsay. "This is not appropriate lot creation."

He said the city was approving construction on land that had substandard water when the number one concern of residents in the rural parts of Ottawa is water quality. And he said there's no need to be creating lots on substandard property because there's a big supply of such lots elsewhere in the city.

Michel Kearney, a hydrogeologist at the city, said that levels of salt and chloride got worse at the property as a test well kept pumping. He said the pumping didn't continue long enough to show where the levels would become stable. He said the deeper you drill for water in this part of the city, the higher the salt content in the water.

Mr. Kearney cautioned the councillors that the health of residents could be at risk and that provincial water guidelines should not be trumped. City officials also said high salt content can damage the water and sewage systems of a house.

City lawyer Christine Enta said provincial regulation requires that rural lots have wells generating water that is safe and aesthetically suitable for consumption.

Planner Terry MacHardy said there are seven developments in the western part of the city in the same general area that are on hold because of water problems. One couple in the Dunrobin area recently complained that their $300,000 house was worthless because their well was producing small quantities of heavily salted water.

Michael Wildman, manager of infrastructure approvals at the city, emphasized that the Ministry of Environment is on the record opposing building on lots where there is more than 200 milligrams of salt per litre of water. The Stoneridge property had 236 milligrams and the numbers appeared to be headed higher, but pumping was halted. Mr. Wildman said it is not possible to treat that level of water to eliminate the salt.

The lawyer for the landowner, Janet Bradley, argued to the committee that the provincial standards on water quality are guidelines, not requirements.

She said there's room for some flexibility in taking into account the local situation. She said in this case, there are 22 lots across the road that are approved for development even though they will have similar water. That development was approved before Ontario's new water standards were brought in during the 1990.

An engineer hired by the landowners said neighbours aren't having big problems with the water and he considers the salt level "acceptable."

A majority of the councillors at the meeting, Glenn Brooks, Doug Thompson and Eli El-Chantiry, agreed and voted not to support the staff. Mr.

El-Chantiry said this small property owner should not become the city's test case for well water. Councillors Rob Jellett and Gord Hunter supported the staff position.

Thursday's 3-2 decision is not reviewed by city council, so the lots will be developed and the planning staff's appeal to the municipal board withdrawn.

Mr. Lindsay served notice that there will be many more such cases that will be brought to the agricultural and rural affairs committee.

© The Ottawa Citizen 2008

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=9657b23a-a50b-40f5-b25f-93a3b303c14e&k=68662

Cre47

02-29-2008, 03:52 AM

About Le Plateau in Gatineau and its future development (via public consultations) on the central portions (still vacant)

http://www.ville.gatineau.qc.ca/prenez_place/documents/Amenagement_coeur_plateau_compte_rendu.pdf - note the document is in french only

AylmerOptimist

02-29-2008, 12:17 PM

Nice!

:)

clynnog

02-29-2008, 03:02 PM

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=9657b23a-a50b-40f5-b25f-93a3b303c14e&k=68662

Its fine and dandy that this severance won't be appealed to the OMB, but will they be able to get a building permit. Won't they need Conservation Authority, or Health Unit or MOE approval for this development on private services. At that point, I would think that the approval process will be held up.

I wasn't at the meeting, but I'm surprised that the Ag Committee ignored the pleas of all of their staff members.

Cre47

02-29-2008, 06:07 PM

http://www.runge.net/TempDownload/DownloadFiles/1204290697/kk-080229.pdf

See page 8 of the KK edition of Feb 29 about another significant development proposed for Kanata which would be near the proposed Terry Fox Drive extension to the north.

clynnog

03-03-2008, 06:51 PM

The Brooks motion to defeat the proposal passed 19-5 and this will likely head to OMB, so we might not have heard the last about this issue.

The OBJ reports that Minto have confirmed that they will appeal this to the OMB. With City Staff recommending approval, City Council will have to retain outside planning experts to defend the City Council position. Historically, situations where City Council have had to retain planning experts to defend their position have not gone well for City Council.

Dado

03-05-2008, 06:00 PM

This Manotick case is going to be interesting.

The current Secondary Plan for Manotick basically supports Council's position and that of the residents. Remember that the Council decision was to NOT amend anything. The OMB tends to be very legalistic, so this one isn't as big a slam dunk as one might expect. I'm not sure how staff concluded that this proposal was in keeping with the existing Secondary Plan since it went from allowing a few large lot residences to requesting hundreds of higher density units. That plan doesn't have much to say for it, but it exists. The proposal may be more in keeping with the higher level goals of the OP, but certainly not the Secondary Plan. If Minto were to come up with a proposal for more large lot exurban sprawl, it could be approved without a chance of being successfully opposed.

clynnog

03-05-2008, 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=Dado;3396635]This Manotick case is going to be interesting.
/QUOTE]

Today's Ottawa Citizen letters section has got a couple of letters angry at Michael Polowin's recent op ed about the need for the OMB and indicating that the developers will win at the OMB.

harls

03-18-2008, 08:08 PM

From the Aylmer Bulletin - March 19 Edition

http://www.bulletinaylmer.com/autres.html

Urban village consultation: Large turnout in Le Plateau

Julie Murray

Over 70 residents came to the Deux Ruisseaux primary school, March 12, for a public consultation on development in Le Plateau; they were asked to consider two options for an “urban village” in the heart of Le Plateau. Residents of the area, not the developer, will decide which of the two designs they prefer, said Councillor Alain Pilon, adding, “This is a first for Gatineau. Never before have citizens been involved in such an active way in the development of a residential project.”

The urban village will be located west of Le Plateau Boulevard, on land south of Pink Road, north of Allumettières Boulevard, and east of Vanier Road. Le Plateau development is expected to extend to Vanier Road, attracting up to 15,000 to 20,000 residents, on top of the more than 10,000 people already living in the initial development. Up to 40 new businesses could also be located in the urban village.

Urban village concept

Councillor Alain Riel is a fan of the urban village concept. “All the services will be close by, so people can limit car use.” He says that the urban village will have a pedestrian mall, parks and a public market, giving it a “Roman forum” feel. In an urban village, parks, community centres, homes and businesses, such as boutiques, shops and cafes, are located in proximity, so residents can walk from their homes to have coffee on an open-air terrace, buy fresh bread, attend a cultural activity such as a concert, or watch a soccer game. Urban villages strengthen community ties, improve the quality of life, and leave a smaller “ecological footprint” than traditional developments.

clynnog

03-18-2008, 09:12 PM

From the Aylmer Bulletin - March 19 Edition

http://www.bulletinaylmer.com/autres.html

Well if the residents are going to decide on the look of the place are they going to pay for it.....the tone of this article is all wrong...last time I checked developers paid for development based on dialogue etc, with the City and residents but not on a design decided upon by nearby residents. If nearby residents had their way it would all be parkland or single family residential or commercial with lots of parking out front.

AylmerOptimist

03-18-2008, 09:14 PM

I was there but forgot my camera...

:)

Kitchissippi

03-22-2008, 02:06 AM

Any news regarding the city's Longfields Plan? "If" the city's ambitious transit plans ever get off the ground, I think that this area could actually be developed to even higher density. While the proposed plan is OK, I find it's just the same old stuff that's in Barrhaven already, only arranged differently.

The kind of housing form I wish they'd develop in Ottawa is the Chicago style walk-up condo. These are usually 4-storey buildings with four flats in each floor sharing a common entrance. The following examples are vintage, but I've seen them doing contemporary versions of these. Some of them have underground parking, since with only 16 units or less per building, the basement is large enough for a simple garage.

http://collazogroup.com/re/dev/photos/71.jpg

http://collazogroup.com/re/dev/photos/belle_plaine.jpg

http://collazogroup.com/re/dev/photos/34.jpg

http://collazogroup.com/re/dev/photos/88.jpg

c_speed3108

03-22-2008, 03:13 AM

...
The kind of housing form I wish they'd develop in Ottawa is the Chicago style walk-up condo. These are usually 4-storey buildings with four flats in each floor sharing a common entrance. The following examples are vintage, but I've seen them doing contemporary versions of these. Some of them have underground parking, since with only 16 units or less per building, the basement is large enough for a simple garage.

...

Well Brigil is making a not too terrible attempt at something along those lines at Trim & Innes.

http://www.eastvillage.ca/villagegate/villagegate_en/index.html

AylmerOptimist

03-22-2008, 12:11 PM

^^^
^^^

Yes! Yes! YES!
I looks so calm and pedestrian friendly!

:)

waterloowarrior

04-04-2008, 12:11 AM

http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/richmond/index_en-1.jpg (http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/richmond/index_en.html)

The existing Village Plan (http://www.ottawa.ca/city_hall/ottawa2020/official_plan/vol_2c/former_goulbourn/index_en.html) prepared by the former Township of Goulbourn, designated 210 hectares of land for “future development” and established that these lands be eligible for development when the population of Richmond reaches 4,500. The City estimates that the village population will exceed this number by the end of 2008.
http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/richmond/index_en-2.jpg

Therefore, the City is taking the initiative to review the existing plan and prepare a new plan that includes uses for the future development lands and the village as a whole.
By undertaking this project now, the City can ensure that:
Village residents are involved and can have their say on the future development
The provisions of the existing Village Plan (http://www.ottawa.ca/city_hall/ottawa2020/official_plan/vol_2c/former_goulbourn/index_en.html) are respected
The new plan addresses other related matters that are important to residents

Cre47

04-11-2008, 04:51 PM

Here's a partial map of the Mahogany Fairwinds subdivision in Kanata West

http://www.mattamyhomes.com/uploadedFiles/Ottawa/Communities_in_Ottawa/Fairwinds_in_Kanata/fairwinds_siteplanV2.pdf

I understand that Mahogany has also submitted a proposal for more land just to the west of the community.

Acajack

04-11-2008, 07:37 PM

What’s the street name theme here? Winds? I see “mistral”, which is a wind that blows in Provence in the south of France…

The Plateau district in Gatineau has its wind-themed area: rue du Chinook, rue des Alizés (alizés are tradewinds in French), rue du Mistral, etc.

d_jeffrey

04-11-2008, 10:08 PM

Kitchissippi

04-12-2008, 01:08 AM

...and then there's "Silent But Deadly Avenue". That's a kind of wind isn't it?

Acajack

04-14-2008, 04:09 PM

You called?

http://music.realify.com/images/alizee.jpg

Ce n’est pas elle qui chantait “On m’appelle Lolita…”?

gatt

04-14-2008, 05:18 PM

elle a toujours les fesses à moitié à l'air en tout cas.ah!ces françaises.:rolleyes:

Acajack

04-14-2008, 05:30 PM

elle a toujours les fesses à moitié à l'air en tout cas.ah!ces françaises.:rolleyes:

Hé oui, qu'est-ce qu'on ferait sans elles?

waterloowarrior

05-10-2008, 08:39 PM

Centro by Minto update....
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2132/2454755736_ea9871f298.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2395/2452147090_8fa7a45139.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2456794252_76de69750d.jpg?v=0

by JuliaR and Bikeriders on flickr

waterloowarrior

05-12-2008, 10:20 PM

The most notable sale was for 25.4 acres of future growth land for a consideration of $2,490,000 or $98,070/acre. Located at 425 Nicholls Island Road, to the west of River Road in the Manotick neighbourhood, it was purchased by the Alphon Group (Canada) Inc. from a group of investors. The site is located in close proximity to the Long Island Locks on the east side of the Rideau River.

Another notable sale was for 113.8 acres of rural/agricultural land that is located on the west side of Shea Road, the south side of Flewellyn Road and the north side of Fallowfield in the former Township of Goulbourn, now in the west end of the City of Ottawa. Walton International Group Inc. purchased the land from Donna Spearman for a consideration of $2,389,380 or $20,991/acre.

A34.6 acre parcel of land located on the north side of Highway 174 was sold by Ronald Javitch to 6095186 Canada Inc. (Brigil Homes) for a purchase price of $2,000,000 or $57,795/acre. The property is located on the north side of Highway 174 to the south of North Service Road, in the east end of the Orleans neighbourhood of the City of Ottawa. Tom Brethour and Darren Clare of DTZ Barnicke were the brokers with resepct to this transaction.

http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ms_april2008.htm

waterloowarrior

05-13-2008, 05:16 PM

13 lot residential subdivision (http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__673ITL) (Williams Farm) on Roger Stevens (http://apps104.ottawa.ca/emap/?emapver=lite&LAT=45.133625&LON=-75.708075&featname=2240+Roger+Stevens+Drive&lang=en)
52 lot rural subdivision (http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__673H44) in the same area (http://apps104.ottawa.ca/emap/?emapver=lite&LAT=45.131094&LON=-75.705279&featname=2190+Maple+Forest+Drive&lang=en) --- next phase of Maple Forest Estates (http://juniconhomes.com/maple_forest.php)

Cre47

05-13-2008, 05:27 PM

Now it looks like, they have started to built on the north side of Maple Grove Rd across from Fairwinds judging by the existence of a Par-La-Ville Circle on the E-Map.

Cre47

05-16-2008, 03:39 AM

I've just notice this on the E-Map and on this thread at Ottawa - Building Homes about a new subdivision under construction south of Strandherd, north of the Jock and west of Greenbank. This is not Half Moon Bay nor the Kennevale Avenue extension area, it's a different one
http://www.buildinghomes.ca/community/forums/showthread.php?t=5851

BlackRedGold

05-16-2008, 02:46 PM

Cre47

05-20-2008, 07:45 PM

On the next edition of "Urban-Sprawl"

928 KLONDIKE ROAD, PART OF 329 SANDHILL ROAD, AND 95 SHIRLEY'S BROOK DRIVE

http://www.ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/pec/2008/05-27/ACS2008-PTE-PLA-0118.htm

PART OF 3432, 3454, 3508 AND 3853 GREENBANK ROAD
http://www.ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycouncil/pec/2008/05-27/agendaindex33.htm

waterloowarrior

05-27-2008, 06:36 PM

Planners praise Barrhaven subdivision design
Proposed project's high number of residential units meets goal of densifying suburbia, city officials say
Jake RupertThe Ottawa Citizen
Tuesday, May 27, 2008

A new Barrhaven subdivision with more residential units than normal is the way of the future if the goal of densifying suburbia is to be met, city planning officials say.

The Mattamy Homes project, near the intersection of Greenbank and Cambrian roads, is to be examined by council's planning committee today, and it meets with the city's goal of bringing urban-like densities and lifestyles to suburban areas, the planners say.

Karen Currie, manager of development approvals at the city, said a typical suburb has about 24 residential units per hectare of land designated for residential use.

A community design plan for south Barrhaven demands 34 units per residential hectare, and the Mattamy development, if approved, will have 40 units per residential hectare. By comparison, Old Ottawa South has 41 units per residential hectare.

The development also contains a park, and a central commercial area for businesses such as bakeries, restaurants, corner stores, dry cleaners, and storefronts with residences above the ground floors.

"(The company) has done a number of things to tighten up the density," Ms. Currie said. "I think the suburbs of the future will see more of this type of thing, and we need to encourage more of this."

Ms. Currie's comments come a week after an international group of planning and transit experts told council's transportation committee that the municipality must start creating a more compact city, including the suburbs.

They said the city's suburbs are unsustainable, and the city would be wise to put an end to expensive sprawl and create suburbs that look more like urban areas, with higher densities and employment bases.

City planners have been calling for that vision for years, but the reality has been largely detached homes and big-box store shopping centres.

The municipality is reviewing its official land-use plan, and councillors have been proclaiming a new commitment to creating a more compact city.
Ian Cross does research and forecasting in the city's planning and design department. He said the city is taking a two-pronged approach to the issue.

"You have to encourage what you want, and try to find ways to restrain the type of development you don't want," he said.

Mattamy's subdivision is able to give the city what it wants by making several seemingly minor adjustments that add up to more units. They propose 1,600 detached, semi-detached and townhouse residential units in a development of 85 hectares, with roughly half of that to be used for businesses, roads, parks and other public spaces.

The company, one of the country's biggest residential builders, was able to get the density by decreasing front- and backyard sizes, building on more land per lot and building "back-to-back" townhouses that have no backyard at all.

"I think it's a good mix and I think we're going to see more of this," said Barrhaven Councillor Jan Harder, noting that smaller properties are generally more affordable. "It will allow people who couldn't afford a single or a townhome to buy them."

Higher densities are supposed to be easier on the city's budget, as well.

"(The subdivision) responds to policies in the official plan that speak to the creation of unique, compact and innovative developments that in the long term result in more efficient use of the city infrastructure and resources," says a planning staff report to committee on the application.

And it's most likely the first of many subdivisions of its kind in the area.

Preliminary forecasts for the land-use-plan update call for 55 per cent of the city's growth over the next 23 years to be in the suburbs (with nine per cent in the rural areas and 36 per cent inside the Greenbelt).

Ms. Currie said the new type of subdivision, however, is just part of the answer for densifying the suburbs. She said the city will also have to look at "retrofitting" built-up areas, too.

This is exactly what the panel of experts said the city should be doing in the suburbs, particularly along mass-transit routes planned for the municipal transit network, which goes to city council for a vote tomorrow.

They said the city shouldn't even consider sending rail transit to the suburbs until residential areas along these routes reach urban-level densities, a concept supported by a unanimous vote of city council's transit and transportation committees.

To send rail service to the suburbs now, they said, would only encourage sprawl.

© The Ottawa Citizen 2008

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=c9296bf8-69ca-4a1b-8112-2f03d57d7f8c

harls

05-28-2008, 05:37 PM

^ it's been approved. From the Citizen:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=1643f88e-f227-487a-8fd9-6fea558f9328

Intensified subdivision approved

A subdivision in Barrhaven that will bring urban-like residential densities in suburbia, was approved by city council Wednesday. The Mattamy Homes project will see 40 residential units per hectare designated for homes, which is similar to Old Ottawa South, where typical suburban areas have 24 units per hectare. The plan calls for about 1,600 homes on 85 hectares, in all. The city is revamping its land-use rules with the goal of creating more compact and financially sustainable neighbourhoods, and city staff supported the project because of its higher density and because it contains a core area for commercial operations and jobs.

Cre47

05-28-2008, 06:45 PM

^ it's been approved. From the Citizen:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=1643f88e-f227-487a-8fd9-6fea558f9328

Yeah bring on those densification plans even in the suburbs, then maybe it will bring light-rail much earlier there. :tup:

clynnog

05-28-2008, 07:15 PM

^ it's been approved. From the Citizen:

More importantly, the president of Richcraft gets to build his dream home in Rockcliffe Park.

waterloowarrior

06-02-2008, 04:11 PM

Minto arcadia (http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__67ODLB)

Cre47

06-02-2008, 06:42 PM

Looks like a new one for Barrhaven or at least I have not posted it yet, but basically it is an application for the land bounded by the Jock, Cambrian, Jockvale and Greenbank - so basically east of Half Moon Bay and north/west of Stonebridge

http://apps104.ottawa.ca/emap/?emapver=lite&LAT=45.255834&LON=-75.732277&featname=3538+Jockvale+Road&lang=en

waterloowarrior

06-02-2008, 07:25 PM

^ that one is Stonebridge phase 10
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__68SLSG

clynnog

06-02-2008, 08:18 PM

Minto arcadia (http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__67ODLB)

Fotenn seem to get lots of work these days.

waterloowarrior

06-28-2008, 12:06 AM

the longfields city-owned development is supposed to be at the next p&e meeting

waterloowarrior

07-29-2008, 07:05 PM

Orleans Towns Centre plan of subdivisions
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/appDetails.jsf?lang=en&appId=__6BU4XA

Cre47

08-01-2008, 07:48 PM

http://www.runge.net/TempDownload/DownloadFiles/1217602472/kk-080801.pdf

According to the Kanata Kourier today, Queen's Park has halted the Kanata West project because of flood concerns from the Carp River.

harls

09-08-2008, 03:23 PM

More trouble for the Chelsea Creek development. Citizens are against it.. the thinking is that once they allow high-density development, it will open the door for more (article in french only)

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080908/CPDROIT/80907122/6784/CPDROIT

(nice scowl on that woman's face.. think the photographer asked her to put on her game face for the article..)

waterloowarrior

09-12-2008, 12:02 AM

Eastboro

http://www.ashcroft-homes.com/communities/details.aspx?listingid=25

COMING SOON! 2009

http://www.ashcroft-homes.com/uploads/eastboro.jpg
Ashcroft Homes will be building the rural/city get-a-way you are looking for; Eastboro

Nestled between Orleans and Navan, Eastboro is surrounded by fertile farmlands and miles of country roads. Agriculture and Conservation play significant roles in the stimulation of the Eastboro community. Eastboro is not only a development, it is a self-contained community designed on 200 acres of land.

A rustic get-a-way without the exclusion of city life, Eastboro, is where you'll want to be!

With access to the Blackburn Hamlet bypass in as little as 2 minutes. Ashcroft Homes has created a climate of innovation, diversification, implementation within their new and exciting community through collaborative strategic planning throughout the community development planning process.

Eastboro offers the perfect blend of country-comfort style just far enough out of the city that you do not have to worry about jeopardizing your new found serenity. This is the ideal opportunity for home buyers to get into the home of their dreams in the serenity of the country landscape!

Aimed at attracting 'families who are looking for a residential retreat of relaxation and unique beauty', Eastboro is quite simply a unique development.

It is the development of a family environment that is rich in experience and opportunity for all of its residents, that is viewed as the most exciting aspect. Great emphasis has been given to each and every detail within this unique and exceptional residential retreat. A variety of elements ranging from a school to bountiful parks, a romantic promenade, and light commercial, all come together to form part of the unique experience that Eastboro offers.

lol at the name.... the area won't have farmland and a rustic country feel for long.

harls

09-12-2008, 01:13 PM

Will this be the anti-Westboro?

Mille Sabords

09-12-2008, 01:55 PM

Dibs on Southboro.

bradnixon

09-12-2008, 02:11 PM

I'm guessing "Eastboro" will be somewhere in here:

http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/planning/community_plans/completed/east_urban/index_en.html

(Demonstration Plan: http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/planning/community_plans/completed/east_urban/images/figure_14_en.jpg)

clynnog

09-12-2008, 08:13 PM

Will this be the anti-Westboro?

This may be the anti-Westboro in terms of its proximity to amenities. I wonder how much 'product' in Ashcrofts 'inventory' this development will take up.

http://www.ashcroft-homes.com/communities/details.aspx?listingid=6

jeremy_haak

09-12-2008, 09:12 PM

Wasn't Westboro a suburb at one time too? Who knows, given another 75 years or so, Eastboro might be the ritzy neighbourhood. One can always hope.

c_speed3108

09-12-2008, 09:27 PM

Westboro a suburb ...as was Eastview...aka Vanier around the turn of the last century or a bit earlier. One article said it was full of federal workers escaping from the downtown area to their quite homes in the evening. Sound familiar Orleans?

I am also told Westboro was a rundown slum not so long ago.

All these things go in cycles...

Except for maybe Rockcliffe :D

Acajack

09-12-2008, 09:35 PM

Many of today’s older established areas that are lauded for their “character” were actually the cookie-cutter neighbourhoods of their day…

Funny thing about Eastboro… I got lost in behind Orleans a few weeks ago (even though I grew up there) and I think I actually drove through where it’s going to be. It was in a part of Orleans I didn’t even know existed. Of course, these days there are entire neighbourhoods in Orleans in areas I didn’t even know existed…

adam-machiavelli

09-13-2008, 08:40 AM

All new neighbourhoods begin as suburbs. The direction to which they develop depends on its layout and public and private services offered in its vicinity.

Cre47

09-13-2008, 04:19 PM

lol at the name.... the area won't have farmland and a rustic country feel for long.

So basically the southern extension of Avalon, the future Mer Bleue and Notting Gate communities.

Cre47

09-15-2008, 01:24 AM

E-MAP now shows streets between Greenbank and Cedarview north of Cambrian as part of the newer part of the Stonebridge community in South Barrhaven

harls

09-25-2008, 07:21 PM

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=198446fb-1559-4fdc-bcb7-44e01743fbcf

Chelsea mulls petition over development plans
Dave Rogers, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Thursday, September 25, 2008

OTTAWA - Chelsea residents will know by Friday whether the municipality will open a register that can be signed by voters who want a referendum on the controversial Chelsea Creek housing project.

The mixed residential and commercial development would be built on a farm near the entrance to Gatineau Park on the southeast corner of Highway 5 and Old Chelsea Road. It was to have 283 housing units, including an 81-room long-term care home and a mixture of shops and offices, tripling the size of the community, but developer Mark Shank has dropped plans for the nursing home and reduced the project to 197 units.

Charles Cardinal, a spokesman for the municipality, said Chelsea would start the process that could lead to a referendum if 12 of the 75 voters who live nearby sign a petition. The deadline to sign is Thursday. If there is enough support, Chelsea would allow opponents in the immediate area of the development to sign the register at the municipal hall on Oct. 20 from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m.

If the opposition meets the same mathematical threshold required in the first phase, council could stop the development or hold a neighbourhood referendum in December. A simple majority of voters living near Chelsea Creek could kill the project.

© The Ottawa Citizen 2008

waterloowarrior

09-27-2008, 04:03 PM

http://cdn.travidia.com/rop-ad/6959444

http://cdn.travidia.com/rop-ad/6959459

http://www.verticallimitskanata.com/

http://cdn.travidia.com/rop-ad/6959437

http://uppereastside.ca/

waterloowarrior

11-08-2008, 07:40 PM

Citiplace (Colonnade near Prince of Wales)

http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/citiplace_mslive.jpg

Cre47

11-09-2008, 02:45 AM

Not sure if it works, but here is the Kanata West/Huntmar Road development

http://maps.live.com/#JndoZXJlMT1IdW50bWFyK0RyJTJjK090dGF3YSUyYytPTitLMlMmc3M9eXAuSHVudG1hcitSb2FkJTdlc3N0LjElN2VwZy4xJmJiPTQ1LjMwNTk5NjA0ODYyODklN2UtNzUuOTExNTMyNDgxNDMwMSU3ZTQ1LjI4NjY4MjQ2MDY5ODclN2UtNzUuOTQ4MTM0MTI4MjA4Nw==

waterloowarrior

11-13-2008, 03:47 AM

Residents force vote on Chelsea development

Tom Spears
Ottawa Citizen

Wednesday, November 12, 2008

OTTAWA-Chelsea residents voted Wednesday to force a referendum on a controversial development.

A total of 33 people registered their opposition to the Chelsea Creek development project. That exceeded the threshold of 19 signatories, which now requires Chelsea to hold a referendum on the development, said Geoff Bleich, a member of Preservation Chelsea, a group opposed to the development.

It has been a complex path so far. The InHarmony development group had collected names of its own supporters on a counter-petition, aiming to have the development approved without a referendum, but that petition wasn't accepted by the municipality.

There were 84 people eligible to register their opposition - the same people who would be eligible to vote later in a referendum, said Charles Cardinal, the spokesman for Chelsea.

However, if a large majority registered Wednesday to oppose the project, Chelsea's council would have the option of deciding that the result of a referendum among those same voters would be a foregone conclusion, he said.

"We're going to report the result of the register officially to council on Dec. 1," he said. Quebec law says a referendum, if there is one, must be held before the end of February.

© Ottawa Citizen 2008

Cre47

11-14-2008, 12:14 AM

Let's throw up all developping areas as of late-spring 2008 (ON side only). I will just post a couple of links per new neighborhood on where some of the recent or current construction. Just scroll to view the immediate vicinity.

Kanata

Near Klondike/Second Line
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjr7sv8p48y8&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32907345&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjqsm18p4gxv&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32908246&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

South of March and Old Carp

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjsgcd8p4vnr&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32908651&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Maxwell Bridge & March

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjt3jc8p505d&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32892950&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

NW corner Kanata Ave/Goulbourn

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjms5n8p53q8&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32974406&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Huntmar and Maple Grove

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjf3wd8p62z5&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32982513&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjf5tv8p5rvj&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32951136&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Eagleson/Emerald Meadows (seems there was a crane there)

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjc3r78pbdgm&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32996973&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

west of Eagleson/Cope Road

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjcrs98p9s3x&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32970901&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Fernbank/Eagleson

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjcbst8pb2yy&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32989866&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
Stittsville

Stittsville Main north of Hazeldean
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjcwcz8p50wp&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32970744&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjc8xs8p55fk&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32985311&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjc86k8p4xg6&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32989105&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Westridge/Fernbank

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj6w8c8p5wkr&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33019060&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Barrhaven

Cedarview/Kennevale/Strandherd area

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj9xy68pjy6s&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33018733&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjbdt78pjtqg&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33016846&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Strandherd just west of the Home Depot

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj9wys8pmdv6&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32991096&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Cambrian/Greenbank (Half Moon Bay)

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj80q48pnjt6&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33001218&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Stonebridge (west of Jockvale/south of Cambrian)

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj7s9r8ppbz2&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33009961&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj86d58pp9jg&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33009961&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj6xqz8ppygh&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33010098&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Beatrice/Chapman Mills

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjbgp48ppt03&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33020418&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjbvks8ppkx3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32997987&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Strandherd east of Longfields

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjc9028pp5m7&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33017244&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Woodroffe south of Strandherd

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjbt8b8pq7qp&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32990430&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjcb8j8pq8t6&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32990409&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Berrigan/Longfields

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjcxgs8pnfqk&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32983464&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Riverside South

near Earl Armstrong and Limebank

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjd86s8ptjph&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32996491&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

near Spratt and Limebank

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjdvzb8pt91m&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32988486&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Just of River Road

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjch4w8prr9q&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33023748&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Orleans

Renaud Rd and Navan Rd

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk3xkj8q5tyd&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32822674&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk4cxx8q5mfy&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32822642&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

West of Tenth Line and Blackburn By-Pass

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk7nht8q8gxw&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32814791&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

East of Tenth Line and Blackburn By-Pass

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk7w0r8q911k&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32828938&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk7fb18q990j&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32854351&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk6ppz8q96z1&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32855194&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Esprit Dr/BY-PASS

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk80b28q9ptx&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32827081&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Trim south of Innes

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk8wfb8qbsf8&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32800649&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk98gm8qc60f&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32849020&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

East of Trim/Innes

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rkc62w8qcjyv&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32810807&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

waterloowarrior

11-14-2008, 04:11 AM

thanks for posting those links Cre47

highdensitysprawl

11-14-2008, 01:50 PM

Eagleson/Emerald Meadows (seems there was a crane there)

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjc3r78pbdgm&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32996973&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

The crane is gone now...it is a 6 storey retirement home being built by Claridge...surrounded by new development and an artificially created pond to the north.

Great link to all of these growing areas....the general consensus I get is that these areas look a real mess....a work in progress. It would be interesting to have the ability to see the old and new for the next time that imagery gets updated in these areas.

My guess is that these photos are mid to late May 2008.

Some areas of QC are on the birds eye footage. I know that Aylmer is on, parts of Chelsea, Hull, Gatineau. On the Ontario side, it goes as far as Cumberland Village, Greely, Manotick, Stittsville, Carp etc.

Cre47

11-14-2008, 03:12 PM

The crane is gone now...it is a 6 storey retirement home being built by Claridge...surrounded by new development and an artificially created pond to the north.

Great link to all of these growing areas....the general consensus I get is that these areas look a real mess....a work in progress. It would be interesting to have the ability to see the old and new for the next time that imagery gets updated in these areas.

My guess is that these photos are mid to late May 2008.

Some areas of QC are on the birds eye footage. I know that Aylmer is on, parts of Chelsea, Hull, Gatineau. On the Ontario side, it goes as far as Cumberland Village, Greely, Manotick, Stittsville, Carp etc.

I've posted the QC developments on the QC section one but I could put them here as well. Unfortunetaly, I was not able to have a bird's eye view shot from Findlay Creek (south of Bank and Leitrim) and Greely.

Although It is possible to have a bird's eye shot above the future Manotick development (north of Century Road).

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rj26x18pt4pj&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=33029451&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Cre47

11-14-2008, 03:15 PM

Here are the Quebec ones

Aylmer

Front/Des Allumettieres

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk25c48pbr9q&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32823339&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk1rv08pbckg&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32912052&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Fraser/Lucerne

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjxhfq8pdsp7&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32885905&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjxhsq8pf4gk&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32886486&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Victor-Beaudry

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjyz2j8pfvgr&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32861429&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Aylmer Road west of Vanier Road

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk01028pfz49&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32879277&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Wilfrid-Lavigne/Klock

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk3fqm8pcm9w&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32846109&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk3jx98pccxc&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32804175&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Vanier/Mc Connell

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk24nj8pgh6k&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32875911&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

South of Aylmer Horsetrack

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rjz95w8ph8sh&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32867091&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Near Champlain Bridge

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=rk1nv78pk2j3&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=32863787&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
Le Plateau/Hull

Vanier/Des Allumettieres