[O-Town Hockey]

The plan was to build the other buildings (tall skinny ones), but IMO they got greedy and went with the bulkier and shorter building instead... Now they are even more greedy and actually want to build the one that was supposed to be built in the first place. The guy actually confirmed that they will be built.
My only concern is the view. Isn't it going to be blocked by east market building???
It might not be the prettiest building but then again, it's better than what they have there now...

Where are these skinnier towers going to be built? How come they have not been mentioned on the forum as of yet? Oh well, looks better than the current Claridge 1 & 2.

[kwoldtimer]

..... Oh well, looks better than the current Claridge 1 & 2.

True, although to me the render makes it look like they ran out of construction materials and had to finish the upper stories with something different (shades of Opus!).

[sky.high]

Where are these skinnier towers going to be built? How come they have not been mentioned on the forum as of yet? Oh well, looks better than the current Claridge 1 & 2.

Apparently they will be built where the National Bank on Rideau street is... I haven't seen this advertised anywhere, but the people working at Claridge office told me and showed me the plan with pictures :rolleyes: They already bought the property. What I don't understand is, how is that enough space to build two new towers? I know they are narrow and all, but still it doesn't seem like there is enough space... Maybe they will be facing Cumberland??? I am asuming they won't be getting rid of the Dworkin Furs building since it's historical architecture, and they also just renovated it recently... I also don't understand how that fur place makes any money... People buy fur coats there every day? :cool:

[Danman]

The owners in the East Market III must be pissed....Losing their southern views....

[Davis137]

I wonder if they are going to be even taller than the exsisting towers?

[Zach6668]

Is there going to be retail in the 2nd tower, like where the presentation center is in the 1st tower, but mirrored?

[Rokko]

Skyway,
Thanks for the insight.


I am not sure why they would try and develop two more identical towers beside CP 1 and 2. Why not find another location in Sandy Hill or Byward where there won't be so much crowding? I may go in to the office next month and would not mind asking a bit more about these future projects.

[waterloowarrior]

from this afternoon
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3483/3744329904_47b844ba97_b.jpg

[theKpa]

The rear of the completed podium facing Besserer looks awful, does Claridge plan on decorating it with anything?

[Kitchissippi]

:previous: I'm sure some punks with spray paint will decorate it before Claridge ever will

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

:previous: I'm sure some punks with spray paint will decorate it before Claridge ever will

Hey man, if it becomes anything like Techwall I will NOT complain.

[DecoyOctopus]

Hey man, if it becomes anything like Techwall I will NOT complain.


If you think Tekwall is sick, check out these shots from Queens, NYC

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbointheapple/sets/72157621842585864/

I was there last week, makes Tekwall look like a joke.

[Davis137]

It looks like they are going to be hitting the halfway mark on this tower by the end of August...

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

If you think Tekwall is sick, check out these shots from Queens, NYC

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbointheapple/sets/72157621842585864/

I was there last week, makes Tekwall look like a joke.

While those are pretty damn awesome, I'd hardly say they make Tekwall look like a joke. Also, House of Paint is pretty cool in its own right. I know the guy who did most of the works on the ceiling at House of Paint.

[sgera]

I can confirm that the next two phases will be 30 stories each....already approved apparently as well.

[YOWetal]

I can confirm that the next two phases will be 30 stories each....already approved apparently as well.

Any idea of timing on a launch?

[sky.high]

Any idea of timing on a launch?

Sales start this September. To be completed summer 2014. Since they are never on schedule, more like spring 2015 :sly:

[YOWetal]

Sales start this September. To be completed summer 2014. Since they are never on schedule, more like spring 2015 :sly:

Their 5 year estimate from sales to completion sounds refreshingly honest and very realistic.

[waterloowarrior]

from DCYSA's site. (http://www.dcysa.ca/15-Images-2009/).. now we know which is Claridge Plaza III and which is IV
:yes:

http://wwuploads.googlepages.com/claridge_plaza_34.jpg

[archie-tect]

Wow, nothing like having the street heavily weighted to the south. The height seems slightly tall.

Just imagine though if you owned the LOEB...oops Metro / LCBO site, they must be thinking cha-ching

[k2p]

If memory serves, there was a proposal to have about 18 storeys above the LCBO at King Edward & Rideau when it was first built. I forget all the details, but it was linked to some sort of public investment, I think involving a theatre on the ground level. Never happened obviously, but perhaps it will one day.

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

Wow, nothing like having the street heavily weighted to the south. The height seems slightly tall.

Just imagine though if you owned the LOEB...oops Metro / LCBO site, they must be thinking cha-ching

*twitch*

:gaah:

NOTHING in Ottawa is "slightly tall". If anything, EVERYTHING is slightly short.

[kwoldtimer]

If memory serves, there was a proposal to have about 18 storeys above the LCBO at King Edward & Rideau when it was first built. I forget all the details, but it was linked to some sort of public investment, I think involving a theatre on the ground level. Never happened obviously, but perhaps it will one day.

I believe the idea was that the LCBO could eventually be replaced by a tower, which the zoning would permit. With all the recent development down that way, I wonder if it might not happen sooner rather than later?

[Zach6668]

I believe the idea was that the LCBO could eventually be replaced by a tower, which the zoning would permit. With all the recent development down that way, I wonder if it might not happen sooner rather than later?

That would be very cool. I would love to see more towers in the market area, or around it's perimeter, at least.

[cityguy]

In the early 80's a 14 storey office and 20 storey hotel tower was planned for the site.

[Skipper]

Where will they build Claridge Plaza 3 and 4? On the parking lot behind CP 1 and 2 or on Rideau?

[waterloowarrior]

Where will they build Claridge Plaza 3 and 4? On the parking lot behind CP 1 and 2 or on Rideau?

Where the national bank is at 242-244 Rideau Street, not sure what other properties may be involved.
http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ms_november2008.htm

[Davis137]

They are jacking up the crane today...

[YOWetal]

Where the national bank is at 242-244 Rideau Street, not sure what other properties may be involved.
http://www.juteaujohnsoncomba.com/ms_november2008.htm

Would the buildings front onto Cumberland then?

[theKpa]

That stretch of Rideau and surroundings is really becoming dense, interested to see how it will look in a few years.

[Davis137]

They are done the 10th floor and installing forms for the 11th...

[kwoldtimer]

Would the buildings front onto Cumberland then?

Rideau would seem more likely, no? It would be interesting if the Dworkin building could somehow be incorporated into a new complex, but I suppose that would be unlikely.

[Davis137]

30 Storeys for CP III and IV is pretty awesome...not many buildings over 20 storeys get approved in this town...

[waterloowarrior]

.

[waterloowarrior]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/3821328648_46579499da_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3572/3821330424_6fedb703d8_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2592/3821334362_1ede7531cc_b.jpg

[AznHalf]

Looks great! I can't wait for it to be done! Quality looks great too :haha: :tup:

[sky.high]

Didn't the first 9 floors colapse while building CP I??? CP II made it to the 10th, let's hope these ones stay intact :haha:

[kwoldtimer]

30 Storeys for CP III and IV is pretty awesome...not many buildings over 20 storeys get approved in this town...

I could be wrong, but I thought that the zoning for that height and more was already in place for that end of Rideau.

[Mille Sabords]

Didn't the first 9 floors colapse while building CP I??? CP II made it to the 10th, let's hope these ones stay intact :haha:

Where did that come from? It's not true. The only collapse nearby was at the Richcraft (Galleria) during excavation, they didn't shore it up properly and after a big rainstorm part of the abutting property on Daly fell into the hole, including someone's car. But no 9 storey collapse on Rideau.

[sky.high]

:previous: that's what i heard from one of the tenants that live there... there was also an evacuation last year on first 9 floors once the building was done, due to someones floor falling through??? i was surprised too because i haven't heard it anywhere in the paper or such...

[kwoldtimer]

The enduring power of urban myths ....:koko:

[Skyway]

:previous: that's what i heard from one of the tenants that live there... there was also an evacuation last year on first 9 floors once the building was done, due to someones floor falling through??? i was surprised too because i haven't heard it anywhere in the paper or such...

There were floods and water coming through floors. Several units were heavily damaged.

[urbansprawl]

30 Storeys for CP III and IV is pretty awesome...not many buildings over 20 storeys get approved in this town...

And neither will this one, 30 stories is wishful thinking.

[BlueJay]

And neither will this one, 30 stories is wishful thinking.


I totally agree. Claridge 1&2 were susposed to be 27 floors, and edinburgh common, lalique, la tiffany or what ever they call it was sussposed to be 30 floors.

[waterloowarrior]

Some nice shots from Alexandre Laquerre at Ottawa Urbain http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/claridge-plaza-phase-ii-mise-a-jour/413/

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ottawaurbain/images/uploaded/1252555983_21390.jpg

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ottawaurbain//images/blog/600/claridge_plaza_041252556230.jpg

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ottawaurbain/images/uploaded/1252556036_11984.jpg

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ottawaurbain//images/blog/600/claridge_plaza_021252556230.jpg

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ottawaurbain//images/blog/600/claridge_plaza_011252556230.jpg

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ottawaurbain//images/blog/600/claridge_plaza_021252556230.jpg

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ottawaurbain//images/blog/600/claridge_plaze_071252556230.jpg

[waterloowarrior]

Claridge Homes - Coming Soon (http://www.claridgehomes.com/Coming%20Soon/index.html)

http://www.claridgehomes.com/images/logos/condos/claridgePlaza3Logo.png

You can register for information on Claridge Plaza III + IV

[Davis137]

I've been trying to figure out how tall/what floor count this project has on it now...it's hard to guess from my office. That being said, I DO have a great view of it's progress, and will have a likewise awesome view of CP III and CP IV when/if they go up.

I think that CP II is at 15 floors now...

[amanfromnowhere]

Looks like they just added pages for La Tiffani

http://claridgehomes.com/s/ottawa/condos/latiffani/

[harls]

Looks like they just added pages for La Tiffani

http://claridgehomes.com/s/ottawa/condos/latiffani/

The buildings are absolutely sparkling. Either that or there's multiple photo shoots going on.

[Davis137]

LOL!!!!

They look like EVERYTHING ELSE that Claridge builds in this town...

[rocketphish]

Looks like they just added pages for La Tiffani

http://claridgehomes.com/s/ottawa/condos/latiffani/

If you're looking for info about La Tiffani, which has been available for quite some time now, you can find it over here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140205

[Davis137]

CP PH2 looks like it's at the 19 or 20th floor mark now...just have the last 5-6 smaller levels at the top to build...

[waterloowarrior]

CPII from flar's fantastic panorama (click to see the full version)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/4051359081_0ef096348e_o.jpg (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=175045)

[Davis137]

Cool Picture!

[Rokko]

Great photo.

I think this project is on track for a December 2010 completion date. When will CP 3 and 4 be on Claridge's website? I can't wait for Tribeca's details! :-)

[Davis137]

They need taller buildings downtown...everything looks the same height like they were hacked/whacked by a giant weed whacker...lol

[waterloowarrior]

They need taller buildings downtown...everything looks the same height like they were hacked/whacked by a giant weed whacker...lol

I dunno if I'd really want Claridge Plaza more prominent in the skyline

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/4073673584_4c87deae2b_o.jpg

[Davis137]

No, I didn't mean make CP taller than they are now...I meant they need something taller than Place De Ville or some of the other 30+ storey buildings...maybe something an even 40 stories...

I know I know, I talk about Ottawa having a new "Tallest" all the time. I think 40 stories wouldn't dwarf everything else downtown, but it would stand out though, even if it wasn't the best in design/cosmetics...Well, I draw the line at MORE teal coloured metal and sand coloured fascias...Need something more like Bay Adelaide Centre in T.O, just on a smaller scale...

[waterloowarrior]

Yeah, 40 storey CP would be horrible :D The height limits mean that all we get is giant boxes (flickr steve brandon)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/461793239_3b1fd5e89a.jpg

I'd love to see some tall, thin modern towers like Spire (45 fl/150 m)... maybe they'd have to go in a new area like Bayview?

http://mattshaverphotography.zenfolio.com/img/p426487907-4.jpg

[waterloowarrior]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2614/4083382324_98faaff6f7_b.jpg

[Kitchissippi]

So is phase 3 and 4 going on the next block over? I wish they made these ones a bit more asymmetric, one taller than the other. Two sets of twin towers in a line looks tacky. Plus this one won't be taking the whole block like the other, I imagine, it has to co-exist with the hotel on the corner of King Edward. I'd rather see a slightly mismatched trio on that block, and maybe a perpendicular placement of the new buildings like Hudson park is.

[Aylmer]

Ugh... 4 Clairidge buildings in a row. :p

:(

[Kitchissippi]

If I were designing four buildings for those two blocks, I would have done something like this, with the tallest one maybe 35+ storeys :D :

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2547/4083639787_b78518fdf8_o.jpg

They would have had better views from those towers with a staggered/uneven height arrangement like this.

[Ottawan]

I don't think that Claridge Plaza Phaze III is taking up so much of that next block. My impression from the parcels of land bought up by Claridge was actually that the two towers would front Cumberland (only one with a side facing Rideau) and be thinner than the current ones.

Additionally, I think we'd have heard if they planned to either tear down or incorporate the Dworkin Furs building, which is heritage designated

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

The problem is that I can guarantee you that people will come out against increase in height limits and cite shadow and windtunnels and destruction of the neighbourhood as their reasons.

[Aylmer]

The problem is that I can guarantee you that people will come out against increase in height limits and cite shadow and windtunnels and destruction of the neighbourhood as their reasons.

It will posses the children and anger the gods :hell:

[Davis137]

It will posses the children and anger the gods :hell:

LOL :jester:

[rocketphish]

The Claridge Plaza III & IV project is becoming more real by the day, so I started a new thread for it over here (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=4553919#post4553919).

[waterloowarrior]

by southfacing on Oct 25
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23575605@N08/4048139866/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2523/4048139866_21e11d2d87.jpg

[waterloowarrior]

OttawaUrbain has a bunch of new shots of CPII (http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/claridge-plaza-updates/445/)

http://www.ottawaurbain.ca/include/ou/images/uploaded/1257126952_29881_thumb.jpg

[ServiceGuy]

Pouring is pretty much done with the exception of some mechanical stuff on the roof. Focus now seems to be the precast exterior sheathing to the 5th floor. Interesting to see that CP I & CP II are about the same height given that CP II has one extra floor. A few inches were cut from each floor to add in the extra story yet keep it within the height restrictions. Lots of diamond grinders, chippers, & laser levels working each day... presumably to get the best slab level possible.

[harls]

taken early morning by me from my car.. need to go back when there's more light!

what's the smaller crane to the right.. Galleria II?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4295036209_c5233e958e_o.jpg

[Skyway]

taken early morning by me from my car.. need to go back when there's more light!

what's the smaller crane to the right.. Galleria II?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4295036209_c5233e958e_o.jpg

Probably the Ottawa Convention Centre.

[Cre47]

I was thinking they were starting to set up the crane at the new tower at U of O - because it seems too close to Claridge Plaza to be the one at the Convention Centre. I would think it would just be off the picture or hidden by 90 George and the Novotel building.

[harls]

It's not the convention centre crane for sure, that one is further to the right and even higher than the Claridge crane. (sorry for crap quality..)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4302300254_a915663e27_b.jpg

[Davis137]

Great wide shots of the Market and Sandy Hill Skylines...

[d_jeffrey]

Great wide shots of the Market and Sandy Hill Skylines...

Well I think Ottawa is the only city that has a real Skyline...


(it is really a line due to the height restrictions)

[Davis137]

Well I think Ottawa is the only city that has a real Skyline...


(it is really a line due to the height restrictions)

I think you're right...the buildings almost look like you could lay a ruler or level flat across the tops of them, and it would almost lay flat...

[OttawaSteve]

taken early morning by me from my car.. need to go back when there's more light!

what's the smaller crane to the right.. Galleria II?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4295036209_c5233e958e_o.jpg

Based on the way the NGC, CHUM TV tower thing, and Claridge I line up, I think that that might actually be the Hampton Inn at Vanier Pkwy/417. The Hampton does have a yellow crane, for what it's worth.

http://www.busgallery.ca/crane.jpg

[harls]

Ah, makes sense - I believe you are right! thanks.

you are pretty much bang on with the vantage point. I was at the parking garage at Desjardins on St-Joseph.

[Kitchissippi]

Now, can you solve who really shot JFK? :)

[waterloowarrior]

20.02.2010 Southfacing
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2803/4379970549_b3f6a61867.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23575605@N08/4379970549/

[harls]

More photos from francely57 (posted in the Canada section):

^ go ahead! I have some other pics, don't know the name of these projects...


March 4, 2010

from Chapel
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_9920.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_9923.jpg

from King Edward & Rideau
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_9928.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_0078-1.jpg

March 5, 2010

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e24/francely57/UC/IMG_0204.jpg

[Davis137]

Holy Crap, a lot of progress has happened to this building since I started my Parental leave...they've got most of the fascia on it now...nice...