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Bauer_buyer
Apr 14, 2009, 11:57 PM
The colour of the ceiling will be the same as the walls (builders' beige).
I agonized about getting it painted along with the ducts but considering the concrete look and how dismal it might look I decided to have it painted.
I would have preferred just painting the duct work but it was all or none.
Somehow concrete ceilings look better in older structures.
No mention was made of sanding the concrete in order to improve the appearance so unless you are a diehard purist and like the rough look you might want it painted; your "call" of course.
Right now they're simply spraying on the primer.
Yes the price was $6.00 a sq ft...pricey when you have almost 1200 sq. ft.
bauer123
Apr 15, 2009, 1:11 AM
So standard is white primer and a stainless ducking? or white primer and white ducking? I emailed the project manager cause I am curious to what I am getting.
Duke-Of-Waterloo
May 5, 2009, 2:06 PM
Tenants count weeks to Bauer opening
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By Liz Monteiro, THE RECORD, Tuesday, May 05, 2009
WATERLOO
Lisa Littlefield has been waiting more than four years to launch her flower shop in a new location in Waterloo.
And it looks as if she and several other businesses will finally be opening their doors this fall in the former Bauer building at King and Allen streets.
"It's going to be awesome in terms of business,'' said Littlefield, owner of Les Fleurs Floral Boutique, now in downtown Kitchener. (Duke: :D wise business decision on the move!)
The 15-storey, 151-residential-unit tower, known as the Bauer Lofts, is already up and tenants have received notice from Laurence Developments that occupancy is to start July 1.
Coun. Mark Whaley bought a unit in the building.
"I'm so delighted to be involved in something iconic that brings retail and living spaces together," he said. "It's a mini-village."
The developer, Peter Schwartz, could not be reached for comment.
The property will be a mixed-use complex of condos, offices, retail stores and restaurants.
Estimated at $50-million in 2007, the project has had its share of delays. Among them, soil contamination from the site's industrial past.
The original Bauer building, which dates back to the 1880s, is being restored and will house retail businesses and offices.
Brad Galway, co-owner of Caesar's Closet, a women's and men's clothing store in Cambridge, will open a second location in the old Bauer building.
"We are excited. We can't wait,'' said Galway, whose storefront will face King Street.
The store, which sells clothes ranging from denim to evening wear, will have 2,600 square feet. The Cambridge store opened in 1996.
"We are trying to fill a void by bringing the brands and looks that we offer to Waterloo,'' Galway said. "The building project is a cool new concept."
He hopes to take possession on July 15 and begin setting up the store.
A hair salon and spa will also be in the Bauer building.
Carmen Caccioppoli, co-owner of Vincenzo's food store on Belmont Avenue, plans a September opening in the four-storey building going up at Allen and Caroline streets. The new location will triple the size of the popular food store. About 150 parking spaces will be available.
"I get asked every day, several times a day, when we're moving,'' he said.
Caccioppoli said the store will consolidate its current space, which includes a warehouse in Kitchener, at the new location.
Vincenzo's will also add a seafood market.
Charcoal Group of Restaurants, which has four restaurants in the region, will open its fifth in the Bauer project.
The 6,500-square-foot restaurant with 270 seats will face a courtyard between the two buildings on Allen Street, co-owner Tim Wideman said.
Managing partner Jody Palubiski said the Bauer Kitchen will feature an urban setting inspired by restaurants in Soho and Tribeca in New York City.
"The decor will be industrial, with funky lighting and an urban warehouse esthetic,'' he said.
Palubiski said the restaurant will likely open in early October.
http://news.therecord.com/News/Local/article/531760
Photo by Mathew McCarthy
jcollins
May 5, 2009, 2:36 PM
I didn't realize things were happening so soon. Very exciting!!
So is the new Charcoal Group restaurant called "Bauer Kitchen"?
bauer123
May 5, 2009, 4:14 PM
Ya it is I am moving in mid July .. I've snuck in a lot recently and they got the first few floors pretty much finshed . I finally got my second parking spot yesterday and they were telling me how everything is a go.
Cambridgite
May 5, 2009, 4:25 PM
So as far as retail businesses are concerned, Bauer lofts is going to have:
- Les Fleurs floral boutique
- Vincenzo's
- Caesar's Closet
- A 'Charcoal Group of Restaurants' restaurant
- If I recall correctly, Williams Coffee Pub decided to set up shop here a while ago as well
All-in-all, this is pretty impressive. I remember when the WTS King Street buildings by First Gulf opened up. They had LCBO and Starbucks open up as anchor stores right away. However, it seemed to take forever for new stores to start filling in the gaps (i.e. Bark & Fitz, JBU, Channers, etc). Even today, there are still a few vacant gaps. So this is pretty impressive for the Bauer Lofts, having a more peripheral location.
bauer123
May 5, 2009, 6:37 PM
Ya williams is going in. Also a salon and spa is going in and I think it's romeos. Nothing else is confrimed as if yet but I think it's pretty well leased out due to the fact they are sellling additional parking spots now. Because I was told they needed to get that all sorted out first.
As for office they got a 3m company called high jump (they may of canceled by now) and second I heard CIBC Woodgundy is going in.
scarfinv
May 6, 2009, 3:02 PM
So this is pretty impressive for the Bauer Lofts, having a more peripheral location.
Keep in mind that are 4000 people in the next building that are dying for more places to go for lunch that's within walking distance! :)
Cambridgite
May 6, 2009, 4:13 PM
Keep in mind that are 4000 people in the next building that are dying for more places to go for lunch that's within walking distance! :)
It can't be that many, can it?
rapid_business
May 6, 2009, 5:27 PM
SunLife? Hmmm.... could very well be. Not sure... stats anyone?
mark76
May 6, 2009, 6:02 PM
SunLife? Hmmm.... could very well be. Not sure... stats anyone?
400+ maybe, but 4000 if you include Grand River Hospital with all patients lol
Bauer_buyer
May 6, 2009, 6:29 PM
Our PDI, or PRE DELIVERY INSPECTION will be in the last week of May and occupancy date is the 5th of June...
A "Holistic Medicine" store will be opening as well.
There are some very interesting features in the suites and I am certainly glad of the upgrades that we chose, namely the dark walnut pocket doors in the suite and the undermounted sinks in the kitchen and bathrooms.
The huge dark solid 8' high doors are equally impressive
There is even an ensuite storage(5'x5') in our unit which was totally unexpected and pleasantly surprising; storage lockers in the garage areas also have plenty of ample space for storage.
The biggest shock I guess is the appraised value of the units and ultimately the taxes; they are calculated to be about 1.5 % of the value of the unit. You're talking upwards of $4500.00 in taxes. Hell of a lot of money I'd say.
Someone has to foot the "bill" for the RIM Park fiasco.
We are goin' to fight "city hall" on this one.
zanate
May 6, 2009, 6:54 PM
We are goin' to fight "city hall" on this one.
Good luck with that (I'm not optimistic). You can try and fight the appraisal, but if it's anything close to what you paid for it (or what like units are going for now) fuggeddabouddit.
What's your rate code? Are you RT (residential) or MT (multi-residential)? Asking because I'm not sure whether MT applies to you or not, and it's quite a lot higher than 1.5%.
As it is, Kitchener (which isn't paying for RIM park) has pretty much the same 1.4% final rate for RT as Waterloo does, so don't think you're singlehandedly paying for that poorly negotiated loan. (Though if it makes you feel any better, I'm sure you're not paying for snow removal, because in Waterloo snow removal is a myth.)
bauer123
May 6, 2009, 10:43 PM
Bauer_Buyer, good to hear you got your PDI means mine will be out soon. What floor are you on if you don't mind me asking.
Good to hear you got upgrades as well I have been in the building a lot and i see a lot of standard stuff in the units i've been in. I spent a small fortune on mine but it's well worth it with in floor heating, 8 foot island, upgrade of the granite etc.
The assessment make me sorta nervous but what can you do, there's no way in hell they will budge on that. Did they happen to tell you the calculation they are doing for the condo fees?
Oh ya I was in yesterday and they got the entrance doors up they are very impressive looking, and all the appliances are stacked in a unit for some floors.
waterloowarrior
May 6, 2009, 10:47 PM
Waterloo’s Top 5 Employers
RIM - Research in Motion Limited 5200
University of Waterloo 3130
Sun Life Financial 2700
Manulife Financial, Canadian Operations 2400
Wilfrid Laurier University 1047
bauer123
May 6, 2009, 11:04 PM
See if this works..They are taken with my iphone soon there not the best quality but it gives a idea what the units look like
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View from 12th floor
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Duke-Of-Waterloo
May 6, 2009, 11:35 PM
Kitchener (which isn't paying for RIM park)
True, but in Kitchener, you're paying for the multiple municipal failures in downtown over the last 20 years as well as the City's countless and ongoing attempts to clean it up and give it a better name. Kitchener isn't too far off from debt as Waterloo is.
notmyfriends
May 7, 2009, 2:03 PM
400+ maybe, but 4000 if you include Grand River Hospital with all patients lol
400 people in a 18 story building doesn't math out very well
notmyfriends
May 7, 2009, 2:06 PM
True, but in Kitchener, you're paying for the multiple municipal failures in downtown over the last 20 years as well as the City's countless and ongoing attempts to clean it up and give it a better name. Kitchener isn't too far off from debt as Waterloo is.
:rolleyes:
scarfinv
May 7, 2009, 2:19 PM
400+ maybe, but 4000 if you include Grand River Hospital with all patients lol
I work at Sunlife, and we have had over 4000 in the Union St building on many occassions. However, with all the layoffs from the last year, we may be a little under that number now.
400 is what the first floor holds! :haha:
WatGuy
May 7, 2009, 3:05 PM
The biggest shock I guess is the appraised value of the units and ultimately the taxes; they are calculated to be about 1.5 % of the value of the unit. You're talking upwards of $4500.00 in taxes. Hell of a lot of money I'd say.
Someone has to foot the "bill" for the RIM Park fiasco.
We are goin' to fight "city hall" on this one.
If you think RIM Park is driving up your taxes, wait until the real white elephant starts lumbering in front of your door/balcony. I'm referring to LRT.
Fight City Hall about LRT if you want to keep your already high taxes in check.
zanate
May 7, 2009, 3:56 PM
If you think RIM Park is driving up your taxes, wait until the real white elephant starts lumbering in front of your door/balcony. I'm referring to LRT.
Fight City Hall about LRT if you want to keep your already high taxes in check.
I'm worried about the cost of that one too, and its effect on taxes. The "White Elephant" part is up for debate, in other threads...
As perspective, KW's public transit system (even such as it is now) lets us be a one-car couple. That saves me more than my property tax bill every year. Someone moving into Bauer is going to be very well served by the rapid transit project, and if they want to pay upkeep on multiple vehicles as well, that's their lookout.
mark76
May 7, 2009, 4:35 PM
I work at Sunlife, and we have had over 4000 in the Union St building on many occassions. However, with all the layoffs from the last year, we may be a little under that number now.
400 is what the first floor holds! :haha:
hey ,its easier to throw a number and somebody else will find out for you!!
:)
bentonite
May 7, 2009, 4:38 PM
If you think RIM Park is driving up your taxes, wait until the real white elephant starts lumbering in front of your door/balcony. I'm referring to LRT.
Fight City Hall about LRT if you want to keep your already high taxes in check.
$310 million distributed among 100,000 tax payers over 30 years is $103/yr not discounting inflation. $103/yr is a bargain to be able to commute to work without needing to pay for auto insurance, gasoline, maintenance, capital costs, etc. You're more likely to see property tax increases due to rising property values as a result of this project.
mark76
May 7, 2009, 4:42 PM
$310 million distributed among 100,000 tax payers over 30 years is $103/yr not discounting inflation. $103/yr is a bargain to be able to commute to work without needing to pay for auto insurance, gasoline, maintenance, capital costs, etc. You're more likely to see property tax increases due to rising property values as a result of this project.
ahem ,dont forget pay increase for city of waterloo workers:yes:
rapid_business
May 7, 2009, 4:50 PM
Why don't we bring this back to Bauer Lofts as opposed to debating LRT and tax increases? :tup:
mark76
May 7, 2009, 4:55 PM
Why don't we bring this back to Bauer Lofts as opposed to debating LRT and tax increases? :tup:
you mean white elephants??lol
waterloowarrior
May 8, 2009, 11:49 PM
pics by urbandreamer from urbantoronto (http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?p=269288#post269288)
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Duke-Of-Waterloo
May 9, 2009, 12:39 AM
I went by the site today, and now that the smaller new building has bricks on, I noticed that it really compliments the Ontario Table and Chair building. They have a lot of similarities and go really nice together. You can really see this in the 4th photo above. It's too bad they are proposing to tear it down, but I really can't wait until the 144 Park condos get built!
They really really really need to bury the hydro lines on both Allen St and King St and put in decorative street lighting. I was hoping they would do this when Allen St was reconstructed a few weeks ago. :yuck:
notmyfriends
May 9, 2009, 12:51 AM
I really really like the brick on the smaller building. It looks fantastic.
Bauer_buyer
May 9, 2009, 4:06 PM
That old Bauer bldg will look super when new windows are added, the brick is cleaned and Canopies are installed...maybe.
Could the same not be done with the Ontario Table bldg.That structure, historic or not deserves a chance. All three create a great streetscape along Allen street.
jukebox
May 10, 2009, 1:49 PM
Did anyone get pictures of inside the Bauer Lofts?
rapid_business
May 10, 2009, 2:08 PM
/\ look one page back.
Bauer_buyer
May 11, 2009, 10:14 PM
Found out from "one" who rents the structure that the small brick bldg. on the adjacent strip fronting the Iron Horse Trail has been purchased by Laurence Developments.
The purchase includes the narrow strip of land bordering the proposed above ground parking structure.
You'd think that the Ontario Table group would have picked it up.
Duke-Of-Waterloo
May 11, 2009, 11:04 PM
:previous:
I imagine the develper behind 144 Park will do something about the ugly gravel lot beside it (IV), even if there isn't any indication of that yet. I'd like to see something done with the parking lot on the other side of the Iron Horse Trail (V), which I suspect is owned by Clarica.
Interestingly enough, the same developer doing the Bauer Lofts (Laurence Development LP) owns this parking lot as well, not Clarica.
I Originally posted this on November 2, 2008 in the Ontario Table and Chair Thread:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=3888208#post3888208
mpd618
May 11, 2009, 11:12 PM
Found out from "one" who rents the structure that the small brick bldg. on the adjacent strip fronting the Iron Horse Trail has been purchased by Laurence Developments.
Does anyone know what the original purpose of that garage/building was?
jukebox
May 22, 2009, 12:58 PM
I was wondering how the inspections went so far. Were there any problems that other owners must look for
bauer123
May 22, 2009, 1:31 PM
I don't think any have happened yet. Think they will start in June
Tanik
May 27, 2009, 5:27 PM
I don't think any have happened yet. Think they will start in June
Yes, it would be good to get some feedback on the quality of workmanship in the building and on finishes once anyone here has their final inspection.
bauer123
May 27, 2009, 9:13 PM
Yes, it would be good to get some feedback on the quality of workmanship in the building and on finishes once anyone here has their final inspection.
The quality is pretty good from what I saw a couple weeks ago when I was in there. It's pretty bland look right now cause everything is builders beige (doors, walls, concrete ceilings), plus the kitchen cabinets are white (unless you paid for a wood upgrade).
IMO you needed to spend about 20k in upgrades to make the place look luxury. I found the standard stuff unimpressive.
I will post some comments when I do my PDI in july.
Tanik
May 28, 2009, 5:18 PM
Anyone have any opinions on the condo fees at the Bauer. They're still advertised at around 26 cents/foot. That was the rate set for the original occupancy in 2007. I understand that by law the developer has to pick up the tab for any shortfall in the first year. However, since 144Park is anticipating 39 cents/foot, I'd be surprised if the Bauer fees don't skyrocket in the second year. Is the developer saying anything to those that purchased at the Bauer? I know that 144Park will have a concierge, but one thing they won't have that the Bauer does have, is a sump pump that will need to run almost constantly to keep water out of the lower garage levels since they are below the water table. At 144Park, they are designing the place so it won't have to be that low in the ground.
urbandreamer
May 31, 2009, 4:57 AM
Drive by shooting...:p
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That tea place @Allen and Caroline (beside the art store) is moving into Bauer Lofts retail part, owner said developer says mid December...but imho, it may be later.
Duke-Of-Waterloo
May 31, 2009, 4:35 PM
Drive by shooting...:p
No pun intended! :haha:
That tea place @Allen and Caroline (beside the art store) is moving into Bauer Lofts retail part, owner said developer says mid December...but imho, it may be later.
Really? Even with the Williams Coffee Pub slated to open in Bauer as well?
mpd618
Jun 1, 2009, 4:03 AM
Really? Even with the Williams Coffee Pub slated to open in Bauer as well?
Distinctly Tea sells loose tea. I see no problem there.
I had my inspection last week.
There is still a lot to be done in the building. I hope that they finish up quickly so that the condo gets registered. The occupancy fees are not really that exciting to pay.. We didn't buy a loft to spend money on rent.
There were things still missing in my unit, and the pocket doors were not set up well. They all need to be fixed.
My main concern is visitor parking. They give you a handbook when you have your first inspection and in the handbook it says that there are absolutely no visitor parking spaces for the residents.
Can the residents work out some sort of deal with the commercial/retail businesses after hours? like 9pm? I do not think this is fair after paying so much money that there are no visitor spaces.
I wonder if bauer lofts had special zoning provisions for this, because I am sure the City of Waterloo Zoning by-law requires visitor parking.
Any thoughts?
rapid_business
Jun 1, 2009, 9:18 PM
I had my inspection last week.
There is still a lot to be done in the building. I hope that they finish up quickly so that the condo gets registered. The occupancy fees are not really that exciting to pay.. We didn't buy a loft to spend money on rent.
Things were things still missing in my unit, and the pocket doors were not set up well. They all need to be fixed.
My main concern is visitor parking. They give you a handbook when you have your first inspection and in the handbook it says that there are absolutely no visitor parking spaces for the residents.
Can the residents work out some sort of deal with the commercial/retail businesses after hours? like 9pm? I do not think this is fair after paying so much money that there are no visitor spaces.
I wonder if bauer lofts had special zoning provisions for this, because I am sure the City of Waterloo Zoning by-law requires visitor parking.
Any thoughts?
Yeah, the requirements for visitor parking are usually ridiculously high. They can be reduced, but none? really? None even underground? If not, it looks like they'll be using the street nearby. (which isn't that bad...)
As per the pocket doors, let me tell you as someone who did finishing carpentry for years, pocket doors always have problems. A pain to install, and an even bigger pain to maintain. The worst part is often the cheap door/track/etc. they use.
bauer123
Jun 1, 2009, 9:58 PM
Last time I talked to the developer about this he told me one thing they may do is let people park underground in P1 (which is commercial) but that it will cost them money to do so. Which he didn't specify how much that would be.
My advice is just to park in the parking lots because unless you park overnight no one will notice unless they got a guy out there monitoring it.
Worst comes to worst you can park in the parkade overnight for 5$ but have to be out by 8am.
Duke-Of-Waterloo
Jun 1, 2009, 10:15 PM
I foresee big issues with people parking in the Senior's Community Centre parking lot across the street - especially those going to the retail portion.
Kdub
Jun 1, 2009, 11:17 PM
This is a quote from the Bauer Lofts Owner's Manual:
"There is no visitor parking at the Bauer Lofts. All parking (except for the parking units owned by the suite owners) is designated for the use of the merchants (and their employees/patrons) at the commercial property only. If you are having guests (including overnight) you must arrange for them to park OFFSITE or they will be ticketed or towed at their own expense"
notmyfriends
Jun 2, 2009, 12:54 AM
Here is a tip - last I checked, Sun Life doesn't ticket their surface lots outside of office hours.
Anyone have any opinions on the condo fees at the Bauer. They're still advertised at around 26 cents/foot. That was the rate set for the original occupancy in 2007. I understand that by law the developer has to pick up the tab for any shortfall in the first year. However, since 144Park is anticipating 39 cents/foot, I'd be surprised if the Bauer fees don't skyrocket in the second year. Is the developer saying anything to those that purchased at the Bauer? I know that 144Park will have a concierge, but one thing they won't have that the Bauer does have, is a sump pump that will need to run almost constantly to keep water out of the lower garage levels since they are below the water table. At 144Park, they are designing the place so it won't have to be that low in the ground.
Doesn't 144Park have more amenities than Bauer? e.g. In addition to the concierge, they have a guest suite, theatre room, and gym change rooms.
Plus Bauer has the commercial/retail tenants to help with the fees.
We'll see though, who knows what'll happen in the second year.
Bauer_buyer
Jun 3, 2009, 11:26 PM
Just had my PDI at the Bauer complex.
This was the second inspection and I was quite pleased with the quality of work though I had to be firm about a few things....their contact exec. was very co operative and understanding agreeing almost 100% about the points I raised.
My unit is beautiful and the layout one of the best, in the building.
A new interim occupancy date June 9th will replace June 5th...delays delays delays.
For those who are fretting and know nothing about the details of the fees et al.
...the heat pump will certainly decrease my gas/heat and light/hydro...in fact all the light fixtures in the hallways are CFL's. We don't expect the fees to "skyrocket" as was suggested.
Tanik
Jun 4, 2009, 12:06 AM
Just had my PDI at the Bauer complex.
Did they indicate when registration would happen? ie. How long will you be paying occupancy costs?
Bauer_buyer
Jun 4, 2009, 1:46 AM
Did they indicate when registration would happen? ie. How long will you be paying occupancy costs?
They suggested that perhaps by November maybe longer
Tanik
Jun 5, 2009, 12:25 AM
On the issue of visitor parking, is anyone who owns a unit at the Bauer taking this issue up with the city. I thought that under a development agreement the developer would have to provide "n" number of parking spaces for visitors, where "n" is proportional to the number of residential units in the complex. They shouldn't be able to come along at this point and say "sorry no visitor parking". They should have planned for this parking all along.
On a separate "construction" issue, is there anyone here that understands the construction aspects of having the balcony/terrace for one unit over the living space for another unit. I look at how the units on the 12th and higher floors step back from the unit below, meaning that rain/snow will be sitting on the ceiling of the unit below. What's keeping the water/moisture on the upper side of the concrete from becoming an issue on the underside of the concrete forming the ceiling of the unit below?
rapid_business
Jun 5, 2009, 5:29 AM
On the issue of visitor parking, is anyone who owns a unit at the Bauer taking this issue up with the city. I thought that under a development agreement the developer would have to provide "n" number of parking spaces for visitors, where "n" is proportional to the number of residential units in the complex. They shouldn't be able to come along at this point and say "sorry no visitor parking". They should have planned for this parking all along.
If the city approved the building permit, it passed their desk already and this issue would have been discussed. I don't know the details of the project, but this won't be "new news" to them. Worst case scenario, parking in the adjacent street is fine. But I don't know how the commercial, etc. parking is all worked out there.
On a separate "construction" issue, is there anyone here that understands the construction aspects of having the balcony/terrace for one unit over the living space for another unit. I look at how the units on the 12th and higher floors step back from the unit below, meaning that rain/snow will be sitting on the ceiling of the unit below. What's keeping the water/moisture on the upper side of the concrete from becoming an issue on the underside of the concrete forming the ceiling of the unit below?
The same as would be on a roof. Adequate vapour barrier,etc. would be expected.
kauffer
Jun 5, 2009, 2:10 PM
For those who are fretting and know nothing about the details of the fees et al.
...the heat pump will certainly decrease my gas/heat and light/hydro...in fact all the light fixtures in the hallways are CFL's. We don't expect the fees to "skyrocket" as was suggested.
Unfortunately, pre-construction condo fees are about as accurate as pre-construction occupancy dates. Both are factors that potential buyers look at, so developers always try to make them as attractive as possible. 26 cents / sf for a building of that size falls into the "insanely low" category. You should probably plan for something in the low/mid 40 cents / sf range after the reserve fund study is done.
Kdub
Jun 5, 2009, 10:17 PM
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Kdub
Jun 5, 2009, 10:17 PM
[QUOTE=Tanik;4288428]On the issue of visitor parking, is anyone who owns a unit at the Bauer taking this issue up with the city. I thought that under a development agreement the developer would have to provide "n" number of parking spaces for visitors, where "n" is proportional to the number of residential units in the complex. They shouldn't be able to come along at this point and say "sorry no visitor parking". They should have planned for this parking all along.
That's right they should of... Can anyone get their hands on a copy of the actual Zoning By-law that was passed with all the special provisions for the site? I found the planning report online, but I am not sure if this is what council approved. I can tell you that the planning report does say there is approximately 77 extra parking spaces available on site (this is accounting for all parking for residential, businesses and commercial units). I am not sure if this is the most up to date report.... that Zoning By-law should tell us... Anyone here work at the City of Waterloo?
Has anyone talked to peak mgmt or lawrence development about this?
bauer123
Jun 6, 2009, 1:34 PM
I brought it up to Lawrence Developments a month ago and was told no visitor parking was going be available and they said there was never a plan for it.
Would be nice if we could look into this more
I found this in the book that came with our agreement of purchase and sale.
Pg 5. Section 10. "The remaining parking spaces will be designated for use by customers of the Commercial/Retail Space and visitors to the residential condominium (the "customer parking").
Purchasers are advised that the Customer Parking may be operated by the Declarant (or a parking management company) as a public parking facility. Purchasers are advised that a parking fee may be charged for customer parking."
"The declarant shall construct at least the minimum number of parking spaces in order to satisfy zoning requirements at the time of registration of the Bauer Building condominium"
Pg 6. Section 11. Visitor Parking:
"Purchasers are advised that there will be no visitor parking spaces that will form part of the Bauer Building condominium; however, visitors to the residential condominium may use Customer Parking, subject to availablity. Purchasers are advised that there may be a parking fee charged for use of Customer Parking."
The things that make you go "hmmmm....."
rapid_business
Jun 6, 2009, 6:18 PM
yep. use the customer parking. makes sense.
koops65
Jul 5, 2009, 2:04 PM
I snapped these last week:
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Duke-Of-Waterloo
Jul 6, 2009, 2:59 AM
:previous: One of the unit's windows have blinds on them. Have people started to move in yet?
Tanik
Jul 6, 2009, 3:12 AM
:previous: One of the unit's windows have blinds on them. Have people started to move in yet?
I drove by the other day. There are several signs of occupancy on the Sun Life side of the building...blinds, balcony furniture etc....first few flooors.
Bauer_buyer
Jul 6, 2009, 3:56 AM
...I occupied my unit the second week of June...it was quite an experience but I am really happy with it...the location, layout, the view, really are spectacular.
...initially I have to admit I was apprehensive that it was not completed yet I was taking occupancy but I was given assurances that the items on the "list" would be addressed and they were and I couldn't be happier.
...anyone who has seen my unit goes "wow"...me too.
... I have added a few extras such as trac lighting....24 ft can you believe it!
...verticals are expensive....very!
...I'm having a blast!
bauer123
Jul 6, 2009, 2:34 PM
They pushed the later floors date back another month due to people being unhappy about the building being unfinished and because they are way behind in construction. You need to put down a occupancy deposit on move in which is quite large and some people weren't to keen on giving the developer money on a unfinished loft. I know one person that was asked to move in with no countertops in. Quite ridiculous if you ask me. Of course he didn't move in.
The delays are quite annoying when they push back occupancy dates 3 weeks before you are about to move in for another month. This can really disrupt peoples lives with leases and what not.
scarfinv
Jul 6, 2009, 4:28 PM
The delays are quite annoying when they push back occupancy dates 3 weeks before you are about to move in for another month. This can really disrupt peoples lives with leases and what not.
That's for sure... but no different than what many people go through when having a house built. When building my house, I think our house was one of the few on the court (of 18 homes) that actually closed on time (although the builder did put out some feelers to see how we felt about delaying a week or two). Our neighbour was delayed months... and their builder put them up in an unfinished town home during that time (no floors, only the plywood!)
Duke-Of-Waterloo
Jul 11, 2009, 12:18 AM
Photos taken by me - Friday, July 10, 2009
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New wooden ceiling in original Bauer building
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New reclaimed/cleaned bricks on original Bauer Building (along side)
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Theres more blinds and furniture in some of the units now!
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The office building in the Bauer complex goes well with the Ontario Table and Chair building...
urban!ty
Jul 13, 2009, 1:30 AM
The new buildings are wonderful and nice to have the old ones as well. I love how the red brick building blends in and how it treats the street. Pretty decent!
When does the Williams Coffee Pub open?/the rest of the retail courtyard?
mark76
Jul 13, 2009, 2:25 AM
fantastic!! looks great,nice job, well done (looking from outside)
Any plans in mind between clarica and bauer buidling in nearest future?
Those little houses and bauer buidling dont go together.
Leaffan
Jul 13, 2009, 6:12 AM
Well 144 Park is planned right beside the Bauer development so that should help contribute to the areas skyline
jcollins
Aug 5, 2009, 7:48 PM
The new windows going in the original Bauer building look great!!
bauer123
Aug 5, 2009, 11:59 PM
Ya they do look great!. They are also filling in all the missing brick with a old looking brick to match the existing. Also they are putting concrete ledges on all the windows making it look nice.
Charcol's Restaurant Bauer Kitchen will look real nice when they move in. They will make that building look amazing.
jcollins
Aug 6, 2009, 2:24 AM
Are they restoring the "Bauer" painting on the bricks on the fronting that is facing king st?
Bauer_buyer
Aug 6, 2009, 3:52 AM
The restored building will have a mini mall with seven or units on one side and the Bauer Kitchen on the other. The mall's interior walls are constructed mostly of reclaimed brick and the effect is stunning and very inviting.
These shoppes will have windows fronting on King Street.
The courtyard is being prepared for pavers which I'm told will be laid either this week or the next. The "Kitchen" will look onto the interior courtyard making it an ideal location for outdoor dining.
Williams Coffee no doubt, will probably allow its patrons to sit out there as well.
bauer123
Aug 6, 2009, 4:00 AM
Nice! Any word on any other tenants that signed on?
Williams, Ceaser's Closet, Hollistic, Romeo's are the only ones i know
Why is it taking so long to start Vincenzo's interior work
And why are they paving the courtyard'? It should be done in a nice concrete. Paving it will make it look cheap
Duke-Of-Waterloo
Aug 6, 2009, 4:07 AM
:previous: Les Fleurs Floral Boutique, a florist currently located in downtown Kitchener will be relocating to Bauer as well.
Bauer_buyer
Aug 6, 2009, 12:25 PM
Nice! Any word on any other tenants that signed on?
Williams, Ceaser's Closet, Hollistic, Romeo's are the only ones i know
Why is it taking so long to start Vincenzo's interior work
And why are they paving the courtyard'? It should be done in a nice concrete. Paving it will make it look cheap
Yesterday I saw one of the Vincenzo boys driving into the garage so I suspect there will be some movement on the project very soon.
Patios, courtyards for the most part are synonymous with pavers, coloured decorative stone etc.
I suspect these "stones" will make it easier to make repairs, fix leaks or reformat the courtyard floor for whatever reason, as they can be easily lifted if they have to be.
Bauer_buyer
Aug 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
:previous: Les Fleurs Floral Boutique, a florist currently located in downtown Kitchener will be relocating to Bauer as well.
Yes! The owner of that store tells me that she will be part of the Vincenzo's marche complex where small "shoppes" will be set up to complement the deli.
She was quite excited about moving up to Waterloo and being part of Bauer.
From another source I was told that Vincenzo's will have seating capacity for up to 40 patrons in their deli/restaurant section.
bauer123
Aug 6, 2009, 6:16 PM
Yes! The owner of that store tells me that she will be part of the Vincenzo's marche complex where small "shoppes" will be set up to complement the deli.
She was quite excited about moving up to Waterloo and being part of Bauer.
From another source I was told that Vincenzo's will have seating capacity for up to 40 patrons in their deli/restaurant section.
That would be nice. I know they are having independent stores within Vincenzos. Not sure if the September opening is achievable now.
smably
Aug 7, 2009, 4:09 PM
Ya they do look great!. They are also filling in all the missing brick with a old looking brick to match the existing.
Not only is it "old looking" brick, but I believe it's actually the original reclaimed brick from part of the building they demolished. I don't remember where I read this, though.
I agree that it is looking very nice, and I'd also like to know whether they are planning on repainting the Bauer sign.
mpd618
Aug 8, 2009, 4:37 AM
Not only is it "old looking" brick, but I believe it's actually the original reclaimed brick from part of the building they demolished. I don't remember where I read this, though.
Well, there were a few stacks of yellow-ish bricks sitting in the back corner of the lot for quite a while....
Bauer_buyer
Aug 10, 2009, 2:33 AM
Well, there were a few stacks of yellow-ish bricks sitting in the back corner of the lot for quite a while....
...there were more than a few stacks...actually the interior mall, one side is all reclaimed brick....there were over 40 slats of brick stored over a period of 3 years...covered with tarp. of course but unfortunately thousands deteriorated due to temp. changes.
...they are presently waterproofing the courtyard area with tarpaper, tar and the usual gravel base before the pavers go in.
...from my terrace I have a great view of Caroline street...when it's repaved and the streetscaping is complete it should look great. I saw the landscapers walking around the base around Bauer so there will also be some movement on the grounds as well...
...I like the progress on Bauer...when complete w/courtyards, offices, Vincenzo's and the "shoppes" the wow factor will really set in
waterloowarrior
Aug 11, 2009, 1:40 AM
urbandreamer at urbantoronto has some new pics of this project
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4716/dsc07193.jpg
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more here
http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?p=301189#post301189
bauer123
Aug 11, 2009, 1:49 AM
love the guys sarcastic comments...
jcollins
Aug 12, 2009, 5:48 PM
Will those large entrances (the one's fronting King st and Allen st) be used as private entrances for one business only or will you be able to access multiple businesses?
I haven't seen what things look like from inside the courtyard, so maybe there will be more entrances to shops there?
bauer123
Aug 24, 2009, 9:38 PM
Been in the building looking at some of the units including mine and man is there some shady construction going on. I'm tempted to post some pictures to show. But long story short no walls are level. The drywall job is horrible, they just try to patch huge holes. All the ceramic is bad. The doors paint job is bad. They stack the doors then paint them and then when they put up the doors they have patches of paint missing and then they just try to repaint it. They use square mdf board for trim and don't even 45 the joints.
They call the building luxary but when you go into the units and see the job that had been done you think your in public housing.
WaterlooInvestor
Sep 27, 2009, 11:34 PM
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Bauer_buyer
Sep 28, 2009, 1:39 AM
I have an "R" unit southwest corner...I love the layout, the expansive windows...floor to ceiling I might add and the quality of the extras that I put in...the building is magnificent...the amenities nearby including Vincenzos, the Bauer Restaurant and all the other shoppes that will make it just fine thank you
If Bauer 123 wants to sell his I might consider buying it. I have friends who are interested as well...location , location , location.
Yes the work in some cases needed to be addressed but the final result speaks volumes.
Yes I spent a few bucks to add the extras, spent time chasing after this one or that one to get things corrected but maybe I'm willing to bend a little, and show some patience knowing that in the end I am going to enjoy it.
http://cid-b3c419cad3ed3ecf.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Bauer%20Loft%20Photos/IMG00074-20090716-2204.jpg#resId/B3C419CAD3ED3ECF!184
Duke-Of-Waterloo
Sep 28, 2009, 2:56 AM
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Why are some of the bricks covered in a white powdery/"mortary" substance? Will crews be fixing this before the retail shops open? Anyone think they will make it open in time for the Christmas shopping season?
P.S. WI, my initial estimates for your grande return to SSP Local Waterloo Region were slightly off...:rolleyes:
mpd618
Sep 28, 2009, 1:12 PM
Anyone think they will make it open in time for the Christmas shopping season?
I believe Vincenzo's is trying to move in within a month.
bauer123
Sep 29, 2009, 12:14 AM
Bauer people are saying around November..for both charcol and vincenzos
Bauer_buyer
Sep 29, 2009, 2:53 AM
* the latest information which I was able to gleen from the contractors was that the coffee shop at Vincenzos will open onto the courtyard which is excellent as it will allow patrons to sit in the courtyard with their lattes away from the din of vehicular traffic...
* also the flower shop will locate at the corner of Allen and Caroline where the curved windows front the street.
* on the ground floor of the tower there will be a garden store...the building permit was for the business from Belmont, actually Vincenzos neighbour..."Not Just the Garden"
* a note posted on the inside window of the back entrance on the courtyard suggested that CIBC was to move in on the 28ih of September, today.
* the owners of "Holistic Therapy" store are will shortly open their outlet on the courtyard along with the Card Shop which will open any day now.
* there is also an art gallery moving into the original building, looking onto the courtyard. The proprietor has a gallery in St Jacobs as well.
Seeing all this activity is quite interesting and exciting...don't know what I'll do when the "complex" has been completed.
mpd618
Sep 29, 2009, 4:19 AM
Now... where the hell is our King Street sidewalk?
Bauer_buyer
Sep 29, 2009, 1:02 PM
The city is responsible for the sidewalks on Allen and King.
The sidewalk on King is going to be wide and decorative...whatever that means.
No, the Bauer people are not responsible for the sidewalks...
They are doing a fantastic job of the landscaping, the stone walls ,the courtyard are quite a showpiece; at least that's what I think.
Duke-Of-Waterloo
Sep 29, 2009, 1:34 PM
* the latest information which I was able to gleen from the contractors was that the coffee shop at Vincenzos will open onto the courtyard which is excellent as it will allow patrons to sit in the courtyard with their lattes away from the din of vehicular traffic...
I thought a Williams Coffee Pub was opening at Bauer. Is this still happening?
Bauer_buyer
Sep 29, 2009, 4:47 PM
I thought a Williams Coffee Pub was opening at Bauer. Is this still happening?
Apparently not...the intended space in the front of the tower is now up for lease...no other details.
bauer123
Sep 29, 2009, 6:32 PM
Little disappointed over this. I thought something was up with that when I saw the "for lease" sign. Least there is one going in Vincenzos.
They probably got sick of waiting or something I will ask around.
urban!ty
Sep 29, 2009, 9:12 PM
Nooo!!! That Williams was going to be my new hangout spot when I'm in Waterloo over Christmas holidays from university.
GAH!
I am excited to see it all open and running in the courtyard though! A new (very) dense urban space Uptown! :)
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