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Cre47
Nov 22, 2007, 3:15 AM
I've listen to a four-part report on Radio-Canada about traffic problems in Gatineau and Ottawa and in the last part, the reporter discussed about possible solutions for resolving those.

In Montreal, a new toll bridge will be built on Autoroute 25 to Laval. In this region, the Champlain Bridge used to be toll bridge many years back so as Autoroute 10 towards Sherbrooke.

In Toronto, of course, there is the famous Highway 407 ETR from Burlington to Durham County.

In London, England, a section of the city is accessible only via a toll.

Should the City of Ottawa (and perhaps Gatineau) start looking the possibilities of introducing tolls. The next interprovincial motorist crossing should be a toll bridge with transit lanes (as one of the spokesperson seems to suggest from what I heard tonight) The city could do like London, and toll the downtown section. And maybe they should also toll the intersection of Albion and Lester just a return favor from the re-opening planned next week. Or perhaps Hwy 417? RR 174? Bronson Avenue Expressway?

Maybe it would be one of the ways to collect revenue for improving the infrastructures considering the report we've heard yesterday about the state of those.

Where do you think there should be tolls across the NCR?

azz
Nov 22, 2007, 3:42 PM
The next interprovincial motorist crossing should be a toll bridge with transit lanes (as one of the spokesperson seems to suggest from what I heard tonight) For sure!! Makes sense.

The city could do like London, and toll the downtown section. Yes, but only after a quick and efficient means of mass transit is put in place and rolling...hell, if they want to put in a "tube" like London they can tax us like London! We dont need a tube, but Im sure you get the point...Until then, nope!

And maybe they should also toll the intersection of Albion and Lester just a return favor from the re-opening planned next week. :haha: ...I dont think they should. I mean there are so many of these types of diversion attempts in residential areas that it would mean instituting toll programs all over the city and with the the city in charge of such a program it would probably cost more to taxpayers to maintain and develop such a program than it would actually bring in!!

Or perhaps Hwy 417? RR 174? Bronson Avenue Expressway?
417, nope...wouldnt this lead to more snaking of traffic through residential areas and on other minor east west arteries like Carling? Then maybe we should put a toll on Carling, Baseline, and Hunt Club...then eventually on Iris St, and Knoxdale and...etc, etc.

I can see something like this getting out of hand in this city and turning into a money grab. If this happens widely, Ill consider getting myself a horse!!

lrt's friend
Nov 22, 2007, 3:47 PM
Zero means zero. Maybe if we employ half our city staff on toll collection, we can do it. Just kidding!

All future bridges in the urban/suburban area should have reserved transit lanes.

Kitchissippi
Nov 22, 2007, 7:47 PM
Ottawa is not mature enough to control access into downtown with tolls. Doing so would just fuel sprawl and prevent further intensification of the core because future development will favour areas not subjected to the toll.

The best solution is still to just let the traffic get worse by not widening/building more roads and improve public transit significantly so it becomes the mode of choice.

the capital urbanite
Nov 22, 2007, 8:05 PM
collecting fees upon entering the downtown core has already been exploered and nixed by this council.

Mille Sabords
Nov 22, 2007, 9:35 PM
Tolls on the interprovincial bridges is needlessly punitive toward Gatineau - part of the metropolitan downtown is on the Quebec side of the river. Besides, I don't even want to think about the repercussions such a gesture could have on national unity. We have to see ourselves as one metro area in order to properly portray ourselves as the capital of one country.

Downtown doesn't yet have enough economic and cultural fubctions to make it indispensable for the city to function. We have the highest percentage of suburban office space among major Canadian cities. Not a good idea either. Better to focus on better rapid transit and let congestion sort things out.

Road pricing for people living outside the boundaries of Ottawa and Gatineau in Ontario and Quebec are a conceptual possibility but difficult to implement on a road system that is largely provincial.

I voted No.

jeremy_haak
Nov 22, 2007, 10:56 PM
Perhaps we need to toll cars entering the suburbs. :P

Jamaican-Phoenix
Nov 22, 2007, 11:07 PM
Perhaps we need to toll cars entering the suburbs. :P


Now THERE is an idea!!! :tup: :haha:

m0nkyman
Nov 24, 2007, 4:57 PM
I voted no.

Transportation, both public and private is something that we as a city should pay for.

If we want to discourage one type of transit, close a lane, or make public transit more convenient. Toll roads are a bad idea in a city, and are a form of class warfare. My 2¢ worth.

the capital urbanite
Nov 24, 2007, 5:01 PM
I voted no.

Transportation, both public and private is something that we as a city should pay for.

If we want to discourage one type of transit, close a lane, or make public transit more convenient. Toll roads are a bad idea in a city, and are a form of class warfare. My 2¢ worth.

class warfare? ...if you can afford to drive a car you can afford a toll!

m0nkyman
Nov 24, 2007, 5:10 PM
^ You don't know too many single parent's do you?