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MarkDaMan
12-10-2007, 05:14 PM
Contrarian unabashedly bashes Portland
The Monday Profile: Randal O'Toole
Monday, December 10, 2007
ANNA GRIFFIN
The Oregonian

In a fancy Portland ballroom, economist Randal O'Toole plugs in his laptop and fires up a PowerPoint presentation about how Portland is growing.

This isn't, however, your usual dry slideshow of land-use laws and zoning codes. This is an accounting of a smart-growth apocalypse.

Slap a Bible in his hand and O'Toole could easily pass for a frontier preacher. He has the look, if not the Good Book: a stern, tight-lipped expression, an impressive display of graying facial hair, a wardrobe that tends toward simple black suits and looping Western-style bow ties.

He has quite the homily to tell with his slides, a story of righteousness vs. sin, of good guys and bad guys and the long-term consequences of bad judgment and poor choices.

Bashing Portland has become a cottage industry, and O'Toole is its leading figure.

Click. Here's a slide showing a big house on a lush, green yard. This is in Houston, a plump 2,300 square feet for $170,000.

Click. Here's a skinny house in Portland, maybe 1,200 scrunched square feet on a sliver of a yard. Asking price: $260,000.

It's like looking at a diet company's before and after photos. The crowd -- a room of like-minded libertarians and conservatives -- quakes with laughter.

"You'd better hurry. They just dropped the price," O'Toole says. "It's got granite countertops and hardwood floors. Who cares if you barely have enough room to turn around in it?"

Times are flush in Portland. Planners and civic leaders from around the world come to see how we do it. The New York Times can't stop writing about how great we have it, whether we're sipping tea, buying big vacation homes or biking to work. Although the housing market has cooled, Portland hasn't suffered the same steep decline as the rest of the country.

Still, not everyone is thrilled with where things are headed.

O'Toole, a Rose City native and professional thinker with the libertarian-leaning Cato Institute, is the loudest voice among a small but rowdy group of writers, political activists and professional contrarians who say Portland is actually a mess -- a place where planners impose their will on the people, where city leaders mortgage the future for toys such as streetcars and trams, where the working class disappears a bit more every day.

These critics have their own magazine, Brainstorm NW, their own bloggers and their own think tank. Yet the people in power say they don't take this would-be shadow government very seriously.

Homer Williams, one of the city's most prominent developers, called O'Toole "an idiot" in the Daily Journal of Commerce. Ethan Seltzer, head of Portland State University's urban planning department, wonders why anyone would waste time writing about O'Toole -- or even listening to what he has to say.

Still, O'Toole does have an audience. The Cato Institute recently gave him a job -- the first time in decades he's worked for somebody other than himself -- and has flown him around the country to tout his new book, "The Best-Laid Plans: How Smart Growth Makes Housing Unaffordable."

In recent months, he's spoken against light rail and urban planning in places such as Denver, Pittsburgh, Tucson, Ariz., and Charlotte, N.C., where he failed to persuade voters to end a 9-year-old transit tax. He says he's helped kill plans for light rail in Winnipeg, Manitoba; a sales tax to help pay for mass transit in San Jose; and the Seattle region's Proposition 1, a multibillion-dollar transportation tax package that voters rejected last month.

His arguments are simple: Government planning is bad. People should have the freedom to choose how they live. Smart growth is actually quite dumb.

Natural migration

It's a national problem, O'Toole says, as cities try to combat what he considers the natural migration of the middle class to the suburbs by building mass transit and offering builders and property owners tax breaks to help lure people back to the urban core.

"Planners think Americans should live in higher densities and get around on mass transit and bicycle," he says. "Surveys show that most Americans want to live in a house with a yard and have two cars in every garage and get around on the highway."

Even though he abandoned the big city for Bandon, where he works out of his home, several years ago, O'Toole saves a special place in his heart for his hometown. He's crafted a complicated narrative to explain the Portland region's evolution into a national smart-growth darling:

Once upon a time, neighborhood activists persuaded the City Council to kill the proposed Mount Hood Freeway. Instead, then-Mayor Neil Goldschmidt took advantage of a loophole in the federal law that allowed cities to reroute highway money into mass-transit projects. Adding buses, O'Toole says, would have made the most sense but would have left some of the millions set aside for the southeast freeway unspent. Rather than leave cash on the table, Goldschmidt and his cadre of young planners invested in light rail.

Out of that came what O'Toole calls "the Light-Rail Mafia," a collection of politicos, planners and private developers who continue to use government subsidies and restrictive land-use laws to circumvent the will of the people and turn Portland into a high-density hub of condo towers and transit lines. As a result, he says, housing prices have gone up, the streets are more congested, and Portland has become a less pleasant place to live.

O'Toole began his career as an environmentalist, earning a degree in forest management and geology from Oregon State in 1974 and joining the private sector to analyze state and federal plans for forest maintenance. In that work, he began to question the role of large bureaucracies.

"Randal has been a skeptic of authority from start to finish," says Andy Stahl, executive director of the watchdog group Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics. Stahl has known O'Toole for three decades. "He hasn't really evolved as much as he's changed targets."

O'Toole turned to land-use planning in 1995 when planners tried to rezone his Oak Grove neighborhood in unincorporated Clackamas County. Planners wanted denser construction. Neighbors objected and won.

Today, he calls himself an economist -- he spent three years studying the subject at the University of Oregon, but didn't complete his degree -- and spends much of his time telling his version of the Portland story.

The Houston way

When O'Toole casts an eye toward the future, he fears his hometown is headed toward becoming another Vancouver, B.C., with "condos as far as the eye can see." Instead, he wants us to look toward Houston for inspiration.

"They're actually building roads in Houston," he says with a sigh of pleasure. "They know something in Houston that we haven't figured out here. You can build your way out of a traffic problem."

Vancouver is, of course, the urban planner's dream city, sleek and sophisticated, laid out as carefully and creatively as blown glass. Houston is the planner's nightmare, a sprawling monster of a town with no zoning code and a love affair with the automobile.

Judging from recent elections, most Portlanders would rather trade in their Keens, give up their microbrews and swear off fleece than live in Houston. Portland's annual survey of residents suggests that most like where the city is headed, even if they might prefer a quicker commute or cheaper real estate.

O'Toole points to the fact that the suburbs are growing faster than the city as proof that Portland has it all wrong. Planners, who accuse O'Toole of using old data and drawing incorrect conclusions, say that's not surprising: Of course the population will rise in the area that has more undeveloped land ripe for new construction. The point is that Portland keeps growing.

"What people like Randal seem to assume is that we're claiming Portland is perfect," says Seltzer, the PSU professor, who has served on Portland's Planning Commission. "It's not that Portland has it all together. It's that so many other places have so many bigger problems."

Some of O'Toole's concerns and criticisms are the same ones that keep city planners up at night: Portland is becoming too expensive for working-class families. Traffic jams are becoming more frequent. Tax breaks used to build neighborhoods such as the Pearl have taken money away from core government services such as the public schools and care for the mentally ill.

O'Toole and his targets disagree wildly, however, on the solutions. Urban planners and their bosses at City Hall say government must do even more -- by building affordable housing near underused schools, providing more services for poor residents and rezoning large swaths of property along light-rail lines to encourage higher-density development.

O'Toole, on the other hand, says Portlanders should start to address their problems by dismantling Metro, the regional planning agency. The Legislature should blow up the urban growth boundary and build toll roads. Neighborhoods should be allowed to opt out of local zoning laws. TriMet should halt construction of new light-rail lines.

Even admirers agree that O'Toole's proposed remedies veer into the implausible, particularly in a place where he's distinctly outnumbered.

"His analysis of the problem is always much more interesting than the last chapter," Stahl says.

Still, O'Toole sees hope. Even after Oregon voters approved the property rights limits of Measure 49, Portland isn't a lost cause. No, we're not Houston. But we're also not San Francisco. At least, not yet.

"People need to listen," O'Toole says. "They may not like the message, but they need to listen. For your own good."

Anna Griffin: 503-412-7053; annagriffin@news.oregonian.com
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/119725530930830.xml&coll=7

NJD
12-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Homer Williams, one of the city's most prominent developers, called O'Toole "an idiot" in the Daily Journal of Commerce. Ethan Seltzer, head of Portland State University's urban planning department, wonders why anyone would waste time writing about O'Toole -- or even listening to what he has to say.

:haha: best self-mockery quote of the year

zilfondel
12-10-2007, 07:03 PM
know thy enemy...

pdxman
12-10-2007, 08:42 PM
If he loves houston so much why doesn't he just move there? Same goes for Bog and Karlock.

alexjon
12-10-2007, 08:52 PM
Because us Texans would call them idiots and run them out on rails.

In fact, Houston could roll them out on the several dozen miles of new light rail they've got coming out in the next 5 years.

We have a habit of turning people out when they start causing problems in our state. Sent our biggest idiot to the east coast.

alexjon
12-10-2007, 09:05 PM
In 2012, the line miles of the METROrail system will be 5x the current 7 at 35 miles. Add that to the commuter rail lines and you have a beefy system. And a lot of it is paid by the taxpayers.

O'Toole should also realize that zoning in Houston is so open because of the geography and lack of dependence upon farming. Portland has strict rules because the W Valley is a big bread basket, and the more viable land that is eaten up by suburban sprawl, the higher the cost heaved upon farmers due to the cost of land as a commodity, and the bigger the chance we have of slowly killing the area's biggest industry.

If people here are having such a hard time buying a house, maybe they should buy one in Houston. Of course, I find it hard to believe that the people who make such O'Toole-aligned claims would be able to survive the sharp dislike of effrontery displayed by Houstonians and Texans in general.

cab
12-10-2007, 09:32 PM
Or you shoot them.

alexjon
12-10-2007, 09:49 PM
Texans are a little more sane than that-- you'll have to do the work yourself, we won't have any part of your wish, there.

cab
12-10-2007, 10:21 PM
Sorry, I was implying that little JFK shooting back in the day.

alexjon
12-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Never realized I had such a disconnect for that incident; it took me a second to make the connection when I looked back at what you said.

cab
12-10-2007, 11:03 PM
Sorry, I can't stand the tough talking Texas stuff and I've been hoping for some time that the country could give Texas back its very own idiot child.

PacificNW
12-10-2007, 11:49 PM
⤉ :cheers:

alexjon
12-11-2007, 02:02 AM
Sorry, I can't stand the tough talking Texas stuff and I've been hoping for some time that the country could give Texas back its very own idiot child.

That's great, but it doesn't change Texas' place in the world, nor does it make W a Texan.

rsbear
12-11-2007, 02:39 AM
That's great, but it doesn't change Texas' place in the world, nor does it make W a Texan.

Deny it all you want, but dip-shit's home is in Texas, he was the governor of Texas, he sounds like he's from Texas and the majority of people want him sent back to Texas.

I've been to Texas a number of times and greatly enjoyed San Antonio and Austin, so I'm not down on Texas or anything. But the whole "we were our own republic" and "don't mess with Texas" shit gets old.

bvpcvm
12-11-2007, 02:51 AM
back to o'toole, i'm with pdxman - why torture yourself, o'toole? if houston is so much better, i, um, wouldn't want to see you suffer, ahem.

and really, the amount of planning and land-use restrictions we have are pretty minimal compared to what you have in other countries, as everyone here knows. and yet i don't recall ever seeing any news items about how burdened the germans, for example, are with their urban planning. in fact, believe it or not, lots of these countries with stricter land-use planning are pretty nice places. i mean, where would you rather take a vacation: cologne or kansas city?

alexjon
12-11-2007, 03:16 AM
Deny it all you want, but dip-shit's home is in Texas, he was the governor of Texas, he sounds like he's from Texas and the majority of people want him sent back to Texas.

I've been to Texas a number of times and greatly enjoyed San Antonio and Austin, so I'm not down on Texas or anything. But the whole "we were our own republic" and "don't mess with Texas" shit gets old.

Old, but true!

You remember Texas for our former governor, but I know a Texas that has the #2 GDP in the country and 11th in the world, I know a Texas where many social programs work, a Texas where it takes a swipe of a pen to turn 30 miles of BRT into LRT.

Don't forget, either, that Texas is historically and consistently Democratic, where Republicanism is a temporary lapse in judgement. The charm of the son of a former president and oil man is obvious; and the result of very dirty dealings by his cronies in his election and re-election bids for the governorship isn't surprising.

Texas made him governor, but the nation as a whole made him President.

You can consider it shit, but I consider it legitimate pride. Have a little in your own state.

zilfondel
12-11-2007, 04:16 AM
Or you shoot them.

Actually... :iagree:

zilfondel
12-11-2007, 04:24 AM
Children!

*ahem* Play nice, now. We're here to bash our own local idiot, Mr. Toole.


That's great, but it doesn't change Texas' place in the world, nor does it make W a Texan.

Wasn't he from Connecticut or something?

Deny it all you want, but dip-shit's home is in Texas, he was the governor of Texas, he sounds like he's from Texas and the majority of people want him sent back to Texas.

I've been to Texas a number of times and greatly enjoyed San Antonio and Austin, so I'm not down on Texas or anything. But the whole "we were our own republic" and "don't mess with Texas" shit gets old.

Oregon was claimed by Great Britain for awhile. We could've gone the route of Canada... hmm. Too bad, huh?

BrandonTO416
12-11-2007, 05:00 AM
O'Toole should quit being a tool and move. If he thinks Vancouver BC isn't a nice, livable city he should definately have a right to that opinion, but Vancouver is the ideal for me. ;)

pdxman
12-11-2007, 06:12 AM
The proof is in the pudding. Look how many people are moving back to the cities, i mean come on, look at Vancouver, Chicago, here...its not like all of these people moving in to the pearl and sowa are being forced to live there. It is their choice. He seems to forget that...

urbanlife
12-11-2007, 08:49 AM
The cost of housing is rising here because people want to live here.

Also I always get a kick out of it when I tell people that I hate the rain and they tell me that I picked the wrong city to live in. My response is that while I hate the rain there are very few things I hate about Portland, while other cities I have been in, there is a list a mile long that I hate about them that are all far worse than the rain. So I can put up with the rain to live in a city that I overall like.


As for O'Toole, I would be banned for life from this page if I said the first thing that came to mind when I read this article, but I will say I would of had to throw away my Pumas because there would be no way to get that smell out of them after I was finished with him.

rsbear
12-11-2007, 06:29 PM
Old, but true!

You can consider it shit, but I consider it legitimate pride. Have a little in your own state.

I was born in Portland and lived in Oregon for the first 26 years of my life. I have more pride in PDX than you will ever be able to fathom so don't you dare try and tell me that I don't.

alexjon
12-11-2007, 07:41 PM
I was born in Portland and lived in Oregon for the first 26 years of my life. I have more pride in PDX than you will ever be able to fathom so don't you dare try and tell me that I don't.

Pride? Then why attack another state for the same thing?

I'm proud of Texas for everything it was and is. It may seem Republican, but it's a Democratic state; I know my history and how we came to our shame. It is a world power, it has great figures that are as amazing as they have been portrayed, and it has always stood apart from other states.

It seems, however, that the only fundamental respect we get as people is from states like New York, California, and Illinois. Which is fine, since, at the end of the day, Texas is still one of the best places on earth!

alexjon
12-11-2007, 08:52 PM
The cost of housing is rising here because people want to live here.

Also I always get a kick out of it when I tell people that I hate the rain and they tell me that I picked the wrong city to live in. My response is that while I hate the rain there are very few things I hate about Portland, while other cities I have been in, there is a list a mile long that I hate about them that are all far worse than the rain. So I can put up with the rain to live in a city that I overall like.

I like the rain, especially after living in Phoenix.

Actually, a lot of what I appreciate about cities I got from living in Phoenix. I take very little for granted anymore

ForAteOh
12-11-2007, 10:34 PM
Actually, a lot of what I appreciate about cities I got from living in Phoenix. I take very little for granted anymore

I know exactly what you mean (and I moved here from Phoenix a few months ago).

alexjon
12-11-2007, 10:47 PM
I know exactly what you mean (and I moved here from Phoenix a few months ago).

I do miss dust storms, though

MarkDaMan
12-12-2007, 01:00 AM
^me too...but that is about all I can think of missing from that hell hole...

O'Toole is a fool...hahahaaaa...

ForAteOh
12-12-2007, 01:24 AM
^, ^^ I don't think there's anything I miss aside from family and friends. I like everything about Portland better... still getting used to all the rain and the early sunsets, though!

65MAX
12-12-2007, 10:07 AM
^, ^^ I don't think there's anything I miss aside from family and friends. I like everything about Portland better... still getting used to all the rain and the early sunsets, though!

Actually, the sunsets here are later in the day, from spring solstice to autumn solstice, than they are at points south. Then it's reversed for the other six months.

Oh yeah, and the O'Toole article is not even worth responding to. Complete garbage. Oops, I guess that was a response.....

urbanlife
12-12-2007, 11:21 AM
I like the rain, especially after living in Phoenix.

Actually, a lot of what I appreciate about cities I got from living in Phoenix. I take very little for granted anymore

Oh dont get me started on Phoenix, and I have never even lived there.


Actually, seeing we are going in random directions because O'Toole is too much of an idiot to hold our attention, I was always under the impression that Texas was a Conservative Democrat state. Which nothing wrong with that. I dated a girl very briefly that was raised there, and she had alot to say about that. If I am not mistaken, Texas got screwed when Bush took office, just like the country got screwed when he became president.


I guess the moral of the story is that we all have lapses in judgment, just never vote for a Bush.

alexjon
12-12-2007, 05:00 PM
Oh dont get me started on Phoenix, and I have never even lived there.


Actually, seeing we are going in random directions because O'Toole is too much of an idiot to hold our attention, I was always under the impression that Texas was a Conservative Democrat state. Which nothing wrong with that. I dated a girl very briefly that was raised there, and she had alot to say about that. If I am not mistaken, Texas got screwed when Bush took office, just like the country got screwed when he became president.


I guess the moral of the story is that we all have lapses in judgment, just never vote for a Bush.

Actually, you nailed it pretty well.

The tax burden shifted heavily from an economically balanced one to one that weighed heavily on the middle and lower class, executions jumped, and people just... yeah, we just went crazy.

The blue in our cheeks is coming back, though. We're socially progressive again (except in certain suburbs that won't be named, but that's almost universal), and we're slowly regaining our financial balance.

We'll let the haterade go for now

BrandonTO416
12-13-2007, 02:47 AM
Who cares about Texas?

O'Toole and his gang of ideology pretend that anyone who opposes their viewpoint aren't choosing their own lifestyles. Oregon soundly voted for Measure 49 to uphold the land use laws. Its pretty clear that the majority of people around here are living in the ways they are by choice.

O'Toole can't understand these are choices, not forced. He believes his idea is the only "choice" and by definition he's deluded and out of touch with reality. When you think you're belief is the only "choice" that's called authoritarian thought. LOL

65MAX
12-13-2007, 07:59 AM
Who cares about Texas?

About 20 million Texans.

Everybody should take pride in where they live. Even people in Mississippi take pride in their state. As they should. What's wrong with that?

O'Toole is a professional contrarian, he only exists to stir things up. Don't take him so seriously.

Snowden352
12-13-2007, 07:02 PM
While I agree with everyone that O'Toole seems to be more concerned with attacking Portland than resolving its problems. I do think that there seems to be a very concerted effort to ignore his arguments. The fact that the only thing that Homer Williams, just for example, can only rebutt by calling him "an idiot" says that there are no intelligent responses (to say nothing that I think anyone who just calls someone they disagree with an idiot is an idiot edit: I'm referring to Williams, not my fellow bloggers).

I do think that the market plays a larger role in housing costs in Portland than in Houston (where there is a surging demand in Portland to live in-city, and in certain neighborhoods than Houston--I'm not convinced that it would be cheaper to remove the UGB). However, as congestion increases, I do think that there needs to be a rethinking of transportation. Also, the resolution to the shrinking middle class/working class in the city won't be resolved by government rather without a stiff, stiff raise in taxes.

Anyway, I just thought I'd shake things up by disagreeing with EVERYONE who has commented so far. Just a note: I am a libertarian, and that's why I agree with O'Toole's basic premises; and if you must attack something, attack ideas, not politics or the person. Thanks.

pdxman
12-13-2007, 07:10 PM
So you're a libertarian eh?

Snowden352
12-13-2007, 07:29 PM
Yup.
edit: it wasn't meant to be a gratuitous statement; merely a moment of honesty (I wanted to be up front about my position).

cab
12-13-2007, 08:03 PM
For me the issue with Otoole libertarian's are the total lack of knowledge on how we got to this point in the game. Otoole argues for more hwy miles and yet never once does he go back and point out that the highway system is the largest public subsidized work project in history. The entire game has been rigged for 75 years. Unlike the creation of the rail system, which should be the libertarians transportation model since it is the ONLY system to be built by private investors, the highway systems massive subsidizes turned the market. libertarian stand on very fragile grown because they never get the fact that there entire model stand on the shoulders of the basic common infrastructure that government built. Simply put there is absolutely NO proof that libertarian theory has the ability to produce a civilized functioning society.

I have a feeling that our country is going to learn this lesson very harshly going forward as we watch our country fall apart under the thumb of the halliburtons of the world.

MarkDaMan
12-13-2007, 11:24 PM
I'm curious Snowden on what arguments specifically in that profile you agree with?

Phxbyrd211
12-13-2007, 11:38 PM
Why does everyone have to be bashing on Phoenix? There are many here in Phoenix who share Portland's ideals and hope to make them work. Positive things are being done to make Phoenix a better city to live in and in 5 years or so that conception will begin to become reality. Phoenix is simply well behind Portland in their transformation. When settlers were traveling the Oregon trail, Arizona was still part of Mexico (although largely uninhabited). Thank you

2008 Super Bowl, Glendale Arizona

alexjon
12-14-2007, 05:23 PM
Why does everyone have to be bashing on Phoenix? There are many here in Phoenix who share Portland's ideals and hope to make them work. Positive things are being done to make Phoenix a better city to live in and in 5 years or so that conception will begin to become reality. Phoenix is simply well behind Portland in their transformation. When settlers were traveling the Oregon trail, Arizona was still part of Mexico (although largely uninhabited). Thank you

2008 Super Bowl, Glendale Arizona

Phoenix's problem? US Airways and their use of Sky Harbor as a means of keeping themselves the biggest player in the market there.

Snowden352
12-14-2007, 05:31 PM
Well, first off, Cab's right. The private system of trolleys and streetcars was an effect movement device in the early twentieth, and late nineteenth centuries. What's more, I'm assuming, probably better maintained than our current system of transportation. The issue of maintenance is funding, right?

SO, a private system of highways (which I'm not convinced wouldn't have been built without government assistance--though it might have been built in a different fashion re: no massive destruction of housing). That said, privatizing the road system would do much to improve the problems of maintenance. A simple user fee would relieve any necessary taxes (taxes, I add that wouldn't be imposed on someone if they used a different means of moving around). Put purely: a product wouldn't be used if its all fucked up.

I think O'Toole's correct in that more sprawl would relieve SOME housing costs; and that the government shouldn't be subsidizing development in the inner city (particularly when it's subsidizing condos for the nouveau riche). I think that mass transit would work better if it was returned into private hands (like it was before); you wouldn't see too many additional trains-though bus service would probably be massively improved. For instance, there's a bus service my school uses to ferry people between its campus and downtown; at the same time, Tri-Met also runs a bus through the school, too. Practically no one uses the Tri-Met bus, and everyone who wants to get somewhere rides the Raz (Raz Transportation provides the service). It's cleaner, friendlier and speedier than the Tri-Met Bus (I speak from experience, I used to use the bus to get to my previous school).

Lastly, I think that there is no perfect example of a true free-market system in existant. Earlier models were marred by slavery, government corruption, repression of workers, etc. I, of course, don't think that the world would be worse off under a free market--but better. But, these are opinions based on the facts I've gathered so far. Above all else, I consider myself a pragmatist. I'm a Libertarian because its the most practical party (though a little too beholden to purists) for me. If ever incontraversial (I think I misspelled that) evidence is put before me, I will readily change my views. That's it.

MarkDaMan
12-14-2007, 06:20 PM
fair enough...thanks for taking the time to explain your views!

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